Encampment behind Hamilton city hall told to vacate
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2023
- People living in tents at Hamilton city hall have been given orders by Hamilton bylaw officers to leave their encampment.
As many as 50 or 60 people are living in the tents including Montana-Lee Abela. Abela lives with her emotional support dog, Mylie, and has been homeless for a few years.
Abela says, “I would like to be back home with my family I’m just too embarrassed to go back home. Like, living the way I am right now I want to clean myself up for them.”
Hamilton city bylaw officers served notices on Friday telling them to leave voluntarily. The officers didn’t say what would happen if they don’t go.
Many people living in the encampment tell CHCH News that they have nowhere else to go. Encampment resident Jammy Pierre says, “… It’s frustrating because they haven’t presented any more solutions and I don’t think that setting up a tent should be considered an act of rebellion.”
The people who live there say they don’t know what to expect next but say the bylaw officers indicated they’d be back on Monday following the order for these people to leave. The city has forcibly removed encampments in the past.
The City of Hamilton has since declared a state of emergency over homelessness, and has asked the province for more money to help the people on the street.
Some city councillors say they’re disappointed by the city’s order to clear out the tent community without providing options. Hamilton city council is due to consider a new approach to tent encampments.
They all need rehabilitation that's what we need to build. Children and elderly should get their park's back.
They are drug addicts first, and homeless only as consequence. The woman admitted that she has a place to stay with her family. She just wants to be in a place where she can freely buy and use drugs.
They need forced rehab, not free housing.
It’s mind boggling that everyone repeats “the solution is affordable housing” when talking about severe drug addictions
Yeah and they're literally all white
forced rehab. Reopen mental hospitals
Any government building must be allowed to have an encampment in Hamilton If they take silly decisions, let them face consequences
City Hall should be welcoming the homeless, after all, they`re the ones that have allow the housing to get so out of control. City Hall is paid for by taxes, the people own it and the people should be allowed to occupy it during Any emergency.
What I don't understand is when they give the tent people notices to evacuate they don't give them an alternative place to rest , but the city has no problems with large RVs parking at the Hamilton waterfront trust Pier 8 parking lot for years, today there are approximately 4 to 5 large RVs left in the parking lot where people are living in them and not paying any fees, these large RVs are parked right next to the children's playground, these large RVs that have been parked there for years without being harassed or evicted , and are very very creepy and suspicious, hey a child could go missing when you go to the Hamilton waterfront trust roller rink and playgrounds, it's so easy to hide them in one of these parked RVs. Nobody knows who these people are I never see the police ever approach these RVs not one time in 3 years, they don't look like homeless people to me because they have fancy pickup trucks that are worth more than $50,000. Get rid of these creepy possible pedophile RVs off the Hamilton waterfront trust parking lot and away from the children's playground.
maybe thats why they are there to publically identify the Observed RV Pedo very serious and around childrens play areas...Hamiltonians should be on alert . thanks for being courageous few do ....we go All when one for All ❤
@@megatoncellular I noticed that they removed the RVs the day after I posted this comment, everybody at Williams Cafe was completely surprised and how fast the city moves when it wants to move . At least now the children's playground and roller rink is a bit safer without having creeps peep at them through their Windows behind drapes. Hamilton has let in a lot of predators, and hamiltonians are naively way way too trusting.. Hamilton is way behind the times and are NOT aware of the SIGNS that can HARM CHILDREN,
just last year HWT BUILDING (Hamilton water terminal ) tried to put up an lgbtq MAP (minor attracted persons) flag on theirr flag pole in their inside community patio (flags are calling cards), thank God somebody that knew the lgbtq map (pedophile) symbol complained to City Hall immediately and they took that dangerous flag down within hours, but unfortunately for children the HWT building completely inundated last Summer's children's activities( on their community patio) pedaling and promoting lgbtq propaganda, including drag shows with grown men twerking and playing with little children (grooming ).. this rainbow politics and agendas needs to stay away from children, especially if you're going to be calling the area family friendly.
Ps there are no safe spaces for children and and their families that are not drinking the rainbow Kool-Aid.
Portable housing benefits reduce homelessness. Bad behaviour, renovictions, and falling behind on your rent causes homelessness. Bad behaviour is #1. The shelter system in Hamilton can be very sketchy because I was in Hamilton's shelter system for 7 months. I can see why some people sleep on the street.
U do not know how to be part of the system drugs
The Whitehern House must be seeing an extreme drop in tourist/visitors.
Did it have any in the first place?
@@thomasklimchuk441 YES
They are going to now.
@@harlow9175 Yep and I wouldn’t be surprised that these drug addicted homeless people have broken into the house or vandalized it or use the Whitehern back Garden for their toilet area
I was there yesterday from out of town and wanted to go but the gates were closed. Back when I lived in Hamilton I went in the gardens all the time. Now impossible.
She’s on the NEWS saying she doesn’t want to go with her parents because she doesn’t want people to see her because shes embarrassed 🤦♂️
We saw the same video, we know
@@danrook5757 ok? I don’t understand what’s the problem with me pointing out the ridiculousness of someone living behind CITY HALL and going on THE NEWS saying they’re embarrassed of being how they’re so they won’t go to their parents and get off the street.
@@Devoted_Catholic777yup just shows most of them are out there by choice
She probably has mental illness as well as substance abuse problems.
@@kpax45 which came first?
A crazy man with no job just called the city lazy LMFAO
Lazy is a state of mimd
@@danrook5757 that guy has the lazy state of mind.. the drugs probably contribute to that.
city hall has nimby?
Jee how about making a place for them to go to that provides at least drinking water and washrooms.
Even when they live next to a dumpster the garbage piles up around them.
No drugs here.
Montana is beautiful, sad to see where she ended up. I saw the black guy with the white wig, together with another crackhead lady beat another homeless woman as I was passing by that area.
I think if they would leave Canada, come back as an immigrant. You'll be taking good care of by the corrupt government
Addiction is a choice.
no it isn't
You're wrong. I had to taper of benzos because no other meds were helping. They're a nightmare to get off of.
no it isn't
@@ellzedd4113 who put you on them in the first place?
Some people cannot afford rent so they're on the street and maybe most people
Hamilton WHERE ?
Chinada
@@marleyorangeok those condos are Ford's rich immigrants 😂
@@ellzedd4113 The condos in Hamilton are meant to appeal to people from Toronto who can't afford to live there but are willing to make a 1 hour commute there to work.
Canada is turning into a mess
Sad isn’t!
Everywhere is turning into a mess; capitalism has allowed the real-estate, housing and rent markets have all become inflated due to unregulated corporate greed while we're in the middle of an economic downturn and recession.
The only thing that will help alleviate the problem while maintaining a capitalist economic model at this point is for the triple residency bubble to pop and for the market to subsequently collapse, bringing everything back down to affordable levels but throwing the economy into another, even greater recession reminiscent of 2008.
Government is a mess look at freeland look at that snake at the top ..Chow doesn't even know where she is
we don't know where to go.. that's somehow the public's problem
I mean, given that we, "the public," voted for the politicians that allowed the problem of housing unavailability to persist and worsen, or otherwise didn't vote for or didn't run as politicians who tried to resolve the problem, then, yes, it IS rightfully "our problem" to bear.
So long as we people of Hamilton can't unite behind councillors who will help provide housing for these people, then we Hamiltonians will collectively have to bear the brunt of our failure of a social services system; this is because we are privileged enough to be eligible to vote for councillors (you need a fixed address to vote in municipal elections), and thus _noblesse oblige_ dictates we had ought to use our privileges to help those less fortunate than us - i.e. those who *don't* have a fixed address.
@@Luscinia_Nightengale i agree with most of what you said but i do think that people do need to want to help themselves. there are jobs out there that will provide you with enough money to put a roof over your head. i think most of these people don't want to work a 9-5.
@@chrislang6698 many of these people Do work, many hrs in construction. Seasonal workers such as that plus school bus drivers, greenhouse workers, ect work hard for pay that doesn`t cover rent. I`m not just talkig about Hamilton, this is a country wide issue. Some are able to live in campers on their families land until someone calls the city. Some families have no room for them or they`re not a suitable option for a number of reasons. Believe it or not, not all families are good, some are down right aweful. I think you should talk to some of them, so you can have a better understanding of how hard it is to get a job without an "address" or phone. EVen those who are lucky enough tohave a compassionate boss still choose food and water over housing. This isn`t an easy situation for anyone.
@@chrislang6698I think whether or not they want to work, it doesn’t matter. Many can’t work. Getting a job interview is the first barrier. Even if they were magically give an entry-level job, there are so many factors in basic professional and social skills that they lack. Showing up to work on time, showered and fully clean clothes, following the orders of whoever is in charge, getting along with coworkers and customers. I don’t think many can meet these standards.
Vacate. This country makes me sick.
" give everyone in Canada a safe place to call home 🏡🤷🏻♂️
The idea of a home or shelter is not a constitutional right.
@@ontariofirs7347 " you are so correct but we can make it a constitutional right 👍 this is the 21century and not the past 🙏👍
@@whatdoyouwantfromme1029 This is Canada not the Soviet Union, East Germany or Chile under Salvador Allende. Under the Constitution, people are free to pursue happiness and liberty, not have the government promise you basic needs.
@Dead-Toad great question ❓ here is the answer " automatic deduction from whatever income they get 👍 thank you for the question 🙏
@@ontariofirs7347 This is Canada, not the USA, we don't have a constitution, we have a charter of rights and freedom; and while it's true that it has been ruled that the charter does not enshrine a right to housing, it's still being challenged in the courts, so it's not off the table.
Putting it more straightforward, however, it doesn't matter if it's enshrined in law or not, because it is objectively, morally, and economically the right thing to do; guaranteeing everyone access to housing, that is.
The economy is stagnating because no one has disposable income due to the rising cost of housing - if all rent and mortgage rates were capped, and everyone was guaranteed access to at least a room with a bed and a locking door, then the economy could start to flow more now that people don't need to fear not being able to afford rent.
As for the morality aspect - I mean, do I need to explain to you why it is that not making people live on the streets in a city where it can get as hot as 30C in the summer and -40C in the winter is the morally good thing to do?
Objectively, getting them off the street increases their chance of getting off drugs, getting them the mental healthcare they need, getting them back in the workforce, and ultimately getting them contributing to society again - even if they don't get that far, getting them off the street will reduce the sense of lawlessness in the area and thereby increase public safety; in either case, it is objectively a good thing for society that we get these people housed.
Join wagner group west today!
They’re just being from moved block to block… they need to be supplied homes and sign grants to work for the government or somebody in return for shelter.
Buses to Vancouver or Portland
Send them to Québec
Why dont they get a hair cut and get a real job. Why cant they be like their big brother Bob??
Get a haircut - with what money? They're homeless and unemployed, how will they pay for a haircut or tools to cut their own hair?
Get a real job - how can they do that? You need a fixed address to get hired by most places as employers tend to be biased against the homeless.
You also tend to need a bank account so that you can submit a direct deposit form, but there's no bank that will open an account for someone without proof of address, and that's assuming security even lets them inside the bank at all.
To add further insult to injury, most homeless people are unlikely to have ID on their person as wallets are where those are typically stored, and wallets are ALSO the most commonly stolen personal article; without ID, no employer will hire you because you need to show your SIN and in addition to that, you almost always need to show at least one piece of photo ID corroborating your identity if you want to open a bank account.
Now, you COULD got to service Ontario and Service Canada to get your ID reissued, but the problem there is that these processes cost money, which, again, these people don't have because they're unemployable because they don't have ID; it's a cache 22 wherein no matter what they do, they can never escape there situation without outside help, which the government seems hellbent on trying to avoid doing at all costs.
So, in conclusion, to your question of "Why don't they get a haircut and a real job?" the answer is this; the system is fundamentally set up to PREVENT them from doing EITHER.
You'd be fine with one of your favourite restaurants hiring a homeless person to prepare your food 🤣
thank trudeau
Clean up get off the drugx
Stop putting up condo`s after tearing down lang st survey
So you want less places for people to live?
Hamilton is a city. Cities have buildings in them.
Thug Ford should be building more homeless facilities, instead of million dollar homes in the Greenbelt
What about our mayor who shut them down at the start of winter?
Thank God seen it and it’s disgusting pray these people fix their lives
Unlikely. They will just sit and pray for a bigger government check.
Lol thank god for what, he put them there didn’t he? Hiding them and taking away their only form of shelter like you want is disgusting, not them literally just trying to survive.
@@punxonlifesupport So, what about our mayor who shut down homeless facilities the start of winter?
Probably won't happen. fentanyl is the new super opido and it's too easy to get and too hard to stop. You can thank China for this wonderful export
Some of these people are not on drugs. They can't afford rent . Thank you government for ruining the canada dream
Trudeau must go
Welcome to the affordable country of Justin Trudeau !
9000 a night
Ummm. What does the federal government have to do with housing issues? Those are provincial, regional and municipal issues.
@@mbogucki1 carbon tax on fuel drives up the prices of necessity items like food, clothing heat, hydro, on everything including the price of building materials which drives up housing prices. Doesn't leave much left to find affordable housing. It's all connected my friend.
@@rossmackenzie7993 You think Mr. White Wig here is on the street because of a carbon tax? Give me a break.
@@mbogucki1 lol, you got me on that one!
Actors
Ever heard of Occam's Razor? It is admittedly a fallacious argument, but I feel it's still poignant here; it proposes that most often, the scenario that makes the fewest assumptions is typically the correct answer.
Now, lets go through the list of assumptions here for them to be actors. First, assume they're acting, second, assume there's some benefit to be gained from this performance, third, assume there is someone willing to fund this false story, fourth, assume that no one in the government would call out this false story, fifth, assume that no locals would call out the falsehood, sixth, assume that you can somehow hire enough actors to simulate a large enough homeless population in the city to convince half a million people that there is a homelessness problem in Hamilton.
Now, let's go through the list of assumptions for the scenario in which these are real people. First, assume that homelessness exists. Second, assume these people are homeless.
I think it's kinda clear which one makes fewer assumptions.
@Luscinia_Nightengale I seen them get dropped off and bussed in..
When people become seniors they're in trouble rents are too high
Another day in Trudeaus Canada
Since when is Hamilton and homelessness under federal jurisdiction?
Cop out to blame Trudeau for everything. Inflation is a global issue. Each community is going to have to pull together and find solutions for mental health, drug addiction and homelessness...we can't keep passing blame, it doesn't help.
@@bridgetb9899 Spoken like a true Liberal. I bet you think Jolsin is "hot"
I am surprised the CHCH doesn’t do a story on the plight of the tax payers who have injuries caused by the wrongful slavery in Canada, everyone should be able to squat and not pay taxes, as you see these people who dare to use the word lazy, this woman who says she’s embarrassed but not to embarrassed to take tax paying strangers money, like a thief? People die in work accidents and catch diseases in the lungs from work environments and the news does not care? When is the last time you heard welfare recipients say thanks to all the tax slaves for working for the money they get for doing nothing? This city is disgusting and these tent people sit here day in and day out and refuse mental help, they want money, housing free needles, free food, free, free and more free, without working for it. There are jobs out there but their drugs are far more important.
Montana is the hottest homeless chick I've ever seen.
I can fix her
@@Johnsonwingus men of culture unite
She's probably new to this lifestyle. Sooner or later she'll start looking like she's aged 20 years and she'll have scabs all over her face and body
Keep voting NDP and Liberal's... this is whhat you will keep getting