I mean, could they not just added an Heroic run of the raids with those rules instead? Higher levels and other modifiers for harder content with diffrent rewards tied to them. Let people have some chance with lower units or even "cheese" some of the fights
Oh, so they NOT ONLY nerfed Anub'Arak but ALSO buffed Onyxia. That's very very unfortunate. I thought they will only remove poison stacks at phase change on Onyxia and I think it would be enough to make this strategy hard enough so many people (including me) wouldn't complete this then. But yeah... Blizzard likes to not just kill one strategy but make the fight harder pretty much for everyone, not only these that used this specific strat.
There are so many bugs in the game, some of them since release, some that would require a change of a single line of code... but of course if the players are able to clear content that they are not supposed to, blizzard is really quick about it. blizzard might lose money after all and that is what its all about with this game
What bugs have you encountered that have stuck around? I'm curious whether I've just gotten to the point where I straight up don't notice them or I'm lucky and don't encounter :D
@@phhh5002game regularly freezes, games drop mid battle, minis will stop attacking and start walking away before their target dies, boomkin increase attack speed talent doesn't work... those are just a few i can think of
@@phhh5002 I constantly earn/use gold to buy tomes and never get them, has been going on for 2 weeks now, I get to open like 1 out of every 10. When I logout/in I get the message that I left them behind, and about the same 1/10 times it actually gives me one...
Thanks Old Guardian for the helpful videos! Been here since hearthstone mercs, I'm glad you're here to keep making strats to enable us to win without paying 🙌
I'm happy that now me and my wife both have Deep Breath, thanks to a previous Anubarak strategy. I got mine 6 months ago with a clear Drakkisath kill with all three phases working, but I was high level and started playing way earlier. But my wife is lvl 24-25 currently. With Golemagg we usually use executes and whelps, while actively defending till overtime, so I don't think poison clearance will change much. Geddon is still pain in the ass. Killing him with Gargoyles and Meatwagons is still possible, though requires more skill, cause you need to refresh gargoyle every time the phase changes. We could make it work once. But I wonder if Anubarak and Malfurion can add something to raids
He only needed two adjustments, maybe three. Beetles spawn at his level and a fixed amount spawn (squads spawned a crazy amount). Third change would be spwaning at him, if necessary.
I hope you'll make a new Anub'arak dungeon guide now that the original strategy got beaten down. Unfortunately I didn't clear the dungeon with Anub before the nerfs.
So I ran Molten Core entirely with people from the queue. It wasn't terrible. I mostly got matched with high level players, so it went well for most boards. Baron was tough, it took a bunch of tries. You really need to coordinate strats on that one. If both players aren't keyed into the Meat Wagon all in, it can get messy. I got paired with a lot of Jaina's for Ragnaros, which didn't compliment my Jaina well. Finally got a player with Drak and he defended while I did spell damage. Reward for repeat of Ragnaros was 750 gold. I'm not sure if the poison buff went in yet for bosses, but that will make Golemagg and Garr a lot harder, with the comps I use. Great content, thanks Ol' G!
Wow! I started recently, and Anubarak was my first "main". I fell in love with the playstyle. Frontline Anub changes everything I've been doing. I really dislike the spawns on the hero. They don't sound strong enough now. They woukd die, even when placed far in tbe back, unless I had like the +1 level per summon. Oof
This sucks, glad I got to kill onyxia while I still could. While I understand that Blizzard doesn’t want people killing bosses while 8 levels below, the real problem / feature is that without paying, there’s absolutely no way to reach the levels of bosses.
World of Warcraft tuning is professional and based on public test realms, not incompetent rumble devs walking through a field of rakes like Sideshow Bob
Is there a leader or 2 that we should save specifically for golemagg? Trying to get some progress first but don't want to lock leaders in first few bosses that might be helpful for golemagg
Yeahhhhhhhh I got my Onyxia kill. Unbelievable journey I had to go through. I farmed like I was 20yo. I managed to get my army to almost lvl 21; I went from 100 to 130 sigils using Sylvannas, Malfurion and Anub'Arak. I'm full of adrenaline rn, so excited! My friends said he is nerfed in Europe too, but I guess that since I was trying for so long without leaving the match, It didn't get updated? The fight is insane, even with this tactic. I wiped like 100+ times (around 5 hours of trys, with breaks in-between); my seed was always playing Kobold first and insta pushing with Orcs followed by Gryphoon, then venom spiders, drake and Gargoyle. I had to find a specific sequence with specific timings so the AI used Necromancer instead of brutes, otherwise it was just impossible. The Anub'Arak loves charging to the left eggs too, pretty much ending the try there. Also the block mechanic is kinda rng, sometimes he just unblocks himselsf and the try is over. DPS is super tight too, you better damage her for around 1 "bar" before going into ovetime, while building up your defenses. I ran out of time in 4 instances with Ony at less than 5% hp. I made my kill with 9 seconds left (I didn't have the quillboar poison talent tho, so less poison stacks). At almost lvl 21 the tactic is NOT easy. 1 mistake or "bad rng" and the fight is over. And I had a lvl 23 Witch Doctor, which can In fact almost solo the eggs. It felt like proper WoW raiding :) Absolutely sad to see Anu'Arab nerfed like this. Nerfs are HUGE, losing poison is just way too much, and in exhange he gets 10 more damage... ok. He was the most fun champion for me. I also invested pretty much all my resources in him and his army. I will be more careful spending resources from now on... at least I got value out of him by killing Ony. Was fun while it lasted...
And this is the exact reason why Anub needed a big nerf. Being able to only just kill bosses that are 3-4 levels above you: Sure. But being able to clear the last/hardest boss in the game at -9 levels means something needs to change... I 100% agree that Anub needed some nerfs and raidbosses needed to be altered/buffed to compensate for the potential to infinitely stack poison.
@@Stompy1984 The problem is how poisons work tbh. Each poison debuff should be it's own instance; that way you can not stack poisons infinitely and the DPS is WAY lower, just like ignites worked in PoE (don't know if they still work the same). The problem with this is that it's way too CPU intensive, to have hundreds of DoT instances running in multiple units at the same time.
...hope they didn't change trap door aside number of scarabs bc it used to stun and keep being targeted by the tower during bury time......, finally will have to try using him as "decoy" for garg...
When do these go live? Because it still feels like nothing has changed. Anubarak & Malfurion are still strong af. The other leaders don't really affect them all to much, you're either playing those 2 to win or not.
She shouldn't have been available at such a low level if it's a problem for people to beat her at that level. You can't enter a lot of content early in Warcraft.
Due to the fact that Blizzard changed the mechanics of the hero, right down to his description, is it legal to demand a refund for the product? The characteristics of the product do not correspond to those stated at the time of purchase, as a result of which I ask for a refund.
The way Blizzard buffs raid encounters is too artificial. Why not add a monster that does the same thing as the planned nerf or buff? Would be far less lame than these coded in boss.clearPoison() methods and depending on situation maybe they could be countered by the player.
All they had to do is make onyxia remove poison stacks as they did, remove dmg from explosions and explosions will do only poison. So nerf would not be that bad for character, and onyxia fixed/buffed so strategy won't work. Nerfing hero that much is a bad thing especially for ppl who bought it just because he's so OP
considering its there only real end game content atm with no real future ideas yet for more pve challenges i get they want to keep it difficult but its still frustrating way to go.
I don't think I that closing exploits is forcing pay to win. Ive spend a lot of time and effort to lvl and tries hard to kill Onyxia while some killed it with ease using Anubarak. Is that fair?
If you’re having fun playing rumble keep playing, if you’re not don’t play. Whether or not you spend money is up to you. Being hooked up to copium thinking blizzard entertainment isn’t a business first, also up to you. Keep up the good work old guardian 👍
Bummer ... wasn't able to clear Onyxia in time. Tried it 6 times, but the mechanics and approach were just too new for me to get a good run goingI could get some towers but then would be overwhelmed. Ah well ... as a f2p bummed about it, I don't think I'll be able to clear Onyxia any time soon due to my minis' levels. Yes, depressing that Blizzard have taken this route to buffing content to make it more difficult for players like me (f2p, not in a guild) to actually progress in the game. If you compare the approach to anything done by SuperCell (think Squad Busters, also a new game) it is even more depressing, the amount of free stuff being given out in Squad Busters on a continual basis is nuts (even though it is really rough levelling your squad characters).
And this is why I'll only p2p for legendary bundles and nothing less than that. Merry Christmas to you too Blizz, you A-holes! You won't convince me to buy any of your 50 Mythic Value or less bundles for this very reason.
This will probably result in Anub himself receiving some buffs. Right now he is a little under half the health of a Molten Giant but has cleave and the charge instead of Siege. If the point is for him to lead the swarm from the front he js going to need a bit more front.
They did the right thing with Anub, that talent of the explosive beetles injecting poison was very strong, when playing with my strongest leaders I had several defeats because of that
Increasing content difficulty with the intent to motivate player spending is misguided. Paywall gating drives me out of a game it does not motivate me to buy. Ironically, I spend more when I’m having a good time and getting success at reasonable challenging levels (and even when absolutely dominating in the game). Rumble for me has really high replay ability-because it’s fun to jump in and have success. Once dungeons go red I’m out.
Yeah this is ridiculous man. I don't mind spending a little bit of cash now and again as its a really fun game, but when they just do shit like this no chance am I spending another penny on the game. This is just a less subtle way of predatory behaviour, same in diablo immortal. Not half as bad but it's getting there.
Carrion spawns on anubarak instead of on dead mini is too much. I understand that they dont stack poision, im ok with that, but just hit him with nerfhammer so much is just not cool:(
I have spent a whole year playing daily, spent some money also and still cannot kill onyxia and get ragnaros... I have no mini below lvl 21 And got like 5 Heroes lvl 29. But still every noob in PvP already got all... I am so pissed
At 5:50 when you said "I've never seen anything like this before" This isn't something new. You mentioned WoW, but in past they've nerfed classes, spells and/or talents if someone found an exploit to use in raids or PVP. I hate nerfs as much as the next guy, but some balancing needed to be done for Anub.
I'm honestly so sick of this strategy from blizzard. Don't nerf our characters that we spend money on. Don't buff old content. They could easily make new content (or even just current content with heroic difficultly) that resists our mini's OP strats. Playing week one Anub'arak was the most fun I had playing this game in so long and now it's just gone.
I don't really see that move too much as forcing ppl to be pay to win. I think it is healthy for the game to have SOME content that requires higher levels, it incentivises ppl to keep playing (even the F2P ones like myself) if everything can be cheesed with lower levels, at lest I lose interest in them, why would I care about leveling my minies if I can do everything with a green lvl23 average team.
Lack of accessible progress means less people sticking around and people dropping the game sooner after picking up. If Onyxia is going to be end all, then I think Raid levels need to come down a little.
Are you blind or just ignorance? How is forcing people to endlessly grind and hope to get the right levels of Minis, after hours of grind and get them to pay for thst healthy? Are you Whales so du.b? Thst will force just people to leave. The last 2 Weeks in 3 people in my guild left because of thst. 1 was a p2w player. Because also to much p2w and still grind and no fun. One moee will leave after Anub nerf. Ge told also, last thing what was fun, maybe he will test doomhammer and then left. Realy du.b comment, but what to expect of a simp whale.😅 2w
i dont think its pay to win outside of pvp given their matchmaking is non existent there. It could be considered pay to win "sooner" but they give away sooo much resources and stars and minis for free as long as you are playing actively everyday and especially during events. Second, even if anub didnt exist, all the prior strats for ragnaros and onyxia still work. They didnt touch your arcane blast strat, you can still deathball drakk on ony, welp eggs execute still works on rag. Meatwagons still work on Rag. etc So all this did was prevent 1 leader from nerfing all the end game content, so they nerfed him a little bit, which is fine imo.
Am I the only one that didn't want to cheese onyxia? Still haven't beaten..wanna try it the way it's supposed to...I really like the way it starts slowly with more and more things happening every second
It jsut made to spend money how it was made. With anub you got a new fun strategy. How the gsme was suposed to be. Now its grining some more mothns or a year or spend money
@@imboredder why you think so? I got as f2p pretty far in few months..tbh I fked up first account bcuz no brain spending..started again and wisely upgraded and spent resources
@@imboredder well..since I started new account with some knowledge of what's coming late game I can tell you that I had few walls (1-3 weeks of grinding at most)..just upgraded units that's most valuable and ignoring rest...and ofc have to mention good people at guild
Blizzard strikes again. No fun allowed. Now if you wanna kill onyxia you gotta spend money or grind the same tired content for years grinding your levels up. So fun.
Even though it's a great game. But if you make it all about pay pay pay, it will dry up because people don't have a high tolerance for that. They will find a different game or just stop playing. They also want a good result for their money, and it's getting pretty obvious that this time, you better have a ton of money to spend .. but even THEN you really don't get enough.
There is a difference between “strategy”, as you call it, and cheese. Golemagg was strategy. Onyxia was pure cheese. They killed both but were only 50% wrong.
Golemagg still can work, still dont clear board, so when clear poison during phases, is still possible to beat him with old strat, but probably not for low level..
Im free to play and my Anub is level 27 currently, so its definitely a fine adjustment to make the scarabs spawn at his level. When i first unlocked him i assumed thats how it would work anyway.
First I want to thank you for all your hard work, your videos and a couple of streams I have jumped in are very entertaining and smart you have helped me and lots of people that play this game have a better and more fun time doing so. Having said that this is the first time I think I disagree with you on something: I understand you are angry they nerf the "clever" strategies that you developed but some of the cases I think the "clever" strategy was more of a bug exploit, for example the Catapult on Ragnaros, they didn't want Catas to hit him from there, it was a mistake in the design of the map, its just one side so its clear it wasn't planned, someone just drew the pixel wrong, in that case I think its fine if blizzard just stops allowing it, its not in the spirit of the encounter to cata from there, and they even let it pass and just made it worse and worse until its not viable anymore. The Anubarak fix I think is again something that can be done but being honest it shouldn't work like that, and its not their PTW trauma, its just something they didn't saw and doesn't work as it is intended. I am not saying Blizzard is perfect, or good, or customer friendly but in some of the cases its clear the "clever" strategy is just beyond bonkers and scratches bug abuse territory in my opinion. On a final note I have only spent on the initial deal and the monthly fee since it came out so I'm not f2p but in no way a big spender and have been able to clear all content with almost a year of consistent playing which doesn't seem absurd to me. Thanks for all your videos and the help in making this experience more enjoyable for us all OG !!!
Well you got me blizzard I guess I'll give you until my azeroth blessing runs out and then I'm out. It's not a strategy game anymore it's just whale bait
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I am fine with people NOT being able to kill Onyxia under level 25 or so. As someone else pointed out, beating Onyxia at level 21 is cheese, not strategy.
Heres an actual unpopular opinion - everyone having db is fine. Db only matter in pvp, everyone at any decent honor already has it. If all you bring is db with an underleveled army to pvp you will still lose badly. The fact the devs are incapable of producing more end game pve doesnt mean constantly buffing what little there is so people have the mirage of working toward something
@@OldGuardian Its not an exploit, I agree, but as Waflo said it shouldnt exist, makes other heroes/minis just subpar, its not good for the game, it was clever of you to find and that has a lot of value and merit no dbout, but killing lvl 30 bosses with lvl 21 minis, being honest, is not good for the game and its not working as intended in my opinion
@@OldGuardian Good strategy hmm..., i think the easiest strategy, not a good or fun strategy. Everyone using almost same strategy, mostly on Golemagg, so the strategy is not kill or something else, still working same. But new players will be harder times, content still need properly lvl, so in the end, its ok. And the changers with poison make sense.
Come on be realistic with that last slide. Being a f2p is possible to do onyxia with a good strategy but if people overuse a mechanic it is not really a strategy but exploting a cheesy way to deal with game mechanics. Blizzard should not be blamed for trying to have some pve content challenging and feeling like Deep breath IS. A reward and not something to be gotten by a “strategy”. Stop antagonizing the hard work of devs, it shows how bad players can actually be by trying to have everything easy, terrible personality for a gamer
Its anoying each time I am going for the said mini and not being able yo do it in time to see it nerfed at this point Onyxia ahoukdnt be that much relevant
No more poison with explosive shell that alone was enough nerf. To go further is ridiculous
My untalented lv11 anubarak was stronger than every other lv29 leader i have.
really the champion is pretty bad and the scarabs were really only powerful because the explosion added poison stacks
i thought they would only do that.. the rest was over the top
I finally managed to clear the grid enough to get rime... still fully f2p and cleared onyxia like 4hrs ago.thanks for the strats!!
Thank you, you've conveyed Blizzard's convincing argument to not pay for their limited time minis, ever.
Finally you are seeing the greed by them xD . You defended when they changed Baron / Rag with the early cheese strats but now you see :)
glad i got my kill in before the line
Got mine also today in the break. Cost me 45min of my break. But finaly i got Onyxia and was funny with Anub. Proud with strategy and no p2w
I couldnt do it because i have wrong talent on my skeleton pack :( but here comes nerf so doesnt matter anymore ;/
same here i didnt waste any time to get it
I played for 3 hours last night and failed :(. I did get very very close, but I had to go to sleep for work. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I spent 25 red buttons to get te wild borg and the poison talent, and then I had to go back to work, so I missed it😅
Really glad I powerleveled anubarak so now my scarabs won't be too much weaker.
I mean, could they not just added an Heroic run of the raids with those rules instead? Higher levels and other modifiers for harder content with diffrent rewards tied to them. Let people have some chance with lower units or even "cheese" some of the fights
Holy shit they actually made him go from S tier to garbage really quick.
he wasn't S tier. He was straight up broken OP. Only leader to beat Onyxia at low lvl without issues.
He's not garbage. He was a god and is now less so.
Anubarak charged face forward into the nerf hammer
Oh, so they NOT ONLY nerfed Anub'Arak but ALSO buffed Onyxia. That's very very unfortunate. I thought they will only remove poison stacks at phase change on Onyxia and I think it would be enough to make this strategy hard enough so many people (including me) wouldn't complete this then. But yeah... Blizzard likes to not just kill one strategy but make the fight harder pretty much for everyone, not only these that used this specific strat.
We are finishing without poison... So onyxia is back where is belong from beggins.
Some people bought the Anubarak bundle because it was strong. Now it's nerfed to the ground only 5 days in.
Can people request refund because of this?
Im in
LOL NO SUCKER your money is gone never trust blizzard
I’m not a whale and not free to play. Each mc they make it harder faster than I can level my team. Still can’t get a rag kill.
I beat rag on the second (maybe 3rd?) Release and I still haven't been able to make it back to him since. Feels crappy
@@nathanreid9195 What boss/bosses are you struggling on?
And what average level mini's do you have?
@@Stompy1984 we did a meat wagon/execute strat the first time. Have tried multiple things since then and haven't been able to pull it off.
There are so many bugs in the game, some of them since release, some that would require a change of a single line of code... but of course if the players are able to clear content that they are not supposed to, blizzard is really quick about it. blizzard might lose money after all and that is what its all about with this game
What bugs have you encountered that have stuck around? I'm curious whether I've just gotten to the point where I straight up don't notice them or I'm lucky and don't encounter :D
@@phhh5002game regularly freezes, games drop mid battle, minis will stop attacking and start walking away before their target dies, boomkin increase attack speed talent doesn't work... those are just a few i can think of
@@phhh5002 I constantly earn/use gold to buy tomes and never get them, has been going on for 2 weeks now, I get to open like 1 out of every 10. When I logout/in I get the message that I left them behind, and about the same 1/10 times it actually gives me one...
Cheers :)
@@Siunami0410to add to the list: minss getting stuck on certain maps, disconnects, acquiring xp tomes is still bugged….etc
Thanks Old Guardian for the helpful videos! Been here since hearthstone mercs, I'm glad you're here to keep making strats to enable us to win without paying 🙌
I'm happy that now me and my wife both have Deep Breath, thanks to a previous Anubarak strategy.
I got mine 6 months ago with a clear Drakkisath kill with all three phases working, but I was high level and started playing way earlier. But my wife is lvl 24-25 currently.
With Golemagg we usually use executes and whelps, while actively defending till overtime, so I don't think poison clearance will change much.
Geddon is still pain in the ass. Killing him with Gargoyles and Meatwagons is still possible, though requires more skill, cause you need to refresh gargoyle every time the phase changes. We could make it work once.
But I wonder if Anubarak and Malfurion can add something to raids
He only needed two adjustments, maybe three. Beetles spawn at his level and a fixed amount spawn (squads spawned a crazy amount). Third change would be spwaning at him, if necessary.
I hope you'll make a new Anub'arak dungeon guide now that the original strategy got beaten down. Unfortunately I didn't clear the dungeon with Anub before the nerfs.
Probably only problem will be Golemagg, which getting ton of dmg from chimeras, so maybe still work or need some evaluate strategy.
Waiting on your new anub strat for onyxia after the patch
So I ran Molten Core entirely with people from the queue. It wasn't terrible. I mostly got matched with high level players, so it went well for most boards. Baron was tough, it took a bunch of tries. You really need to coordinate strats on that one. If both players aren't keyed into the Meat Wagon all in, it can get messy. I got paired with a lot of Jaina's for Ragnaros, which didn't compliment my Jaina well. Finally got a player with Drak and he defended while I did spell damage. Reward for repeat of Ragnaros was 750 gold. I'm not sure if the poison buff went in yet for bosses, but that will make Golemagg and Garr a lot harder, with the comps I use. Great content, thanks Ol' G!
Wow! I started recently, and Anubarak was my first "main". I fell in love with the playstyle. Frontline Anub changes everything I've been doing. I really dislike the spawns on the hero. They don't sound strong enough now. They woukd die, even when placed far in tbe back, unless I had like the +1 level per summon. Oof
This sucks, glad I got to kill onyxia while I still could. While I understand that Blizzard doesn’t want people killing bosses while 8 levels below, the real problem / feature is that without paying, there’s absolutely no way to reach the levels of bosses.
World of Warcraft tuning is professional and based on public test realms, not incompetent rumble devs walking through a field of rakes like Sideshow Bob
Field of rakes is a perfect summation lol
Bliazzard always finds new ways to dissapoint
i'm very glad i pushed it yesterday to get my onyxia kill.
Thanks for not being afriad to call a spade a spade. Especially as a creator (the free stuff is cool). I admire that!
Is there a leader or 2 that we should save specifically for golemagg? Trying to get some progress first but don't want to lock leaders in first few bosses that might be helpful for golemagg
What happened with the other balance changes like Stargell dropping to 5 and so on?
Some of them are in. Moonkin is 3 gold now. I don't know why Earth and Moon is still 6 gold.
@ yes I saw that moonkin is but it’s super weird why they didn’t balance all
I ca not find that bluepost on the official forum, would you mind putting links in the video description, thanks for all your hard work!
Yeahhhhhhhh I got my Onyxia kill. Unbelievable journey I had to go through. I farmed like I was 20yo. I managed to get my army to almost lvl 21; I went from 100 to 130 sigils using Sylvannas, Malfurion and Anub'Arak. I'm full of adrenaline rn, so excited!
My friends said he is nerfed in Europe too, but I guess that since I was trying for so long without leaving the match, It didn't get updated?
The fight is insane, even with this tactic. I wiped like 100+ times (around 5 hours of trys, with breaks in-between); my seed was always playing Kobold first and insta pushing with Orcs followed by Gryphoon, then venom spiders, drake and Gargoyle. I had to find a specific sequence with specific timings so the AI used Necromancer instead of brutes, otherwise it was just impossible. The Anub'Arak loves charging to the left eggs too, pretty much ending the try there. Also the block mechanic is kinda rng, sometimes he just unblocks himselsf and the try is over.
DPS is super tight too, you better damage her for around 1 "bar" before going into ovetime, while building up your defenses. I ran out of time in 4 instances with Ony at less than 5% hp. I made my kill with 9 seconds left (I didn't have the quillboar poison talent tho, so less poison stacks).
At almost lvl 21 the tactic is NOT easy. 1 mistake or "bad rng" and the fight is over. And I had a lvl 23 Witch Doctor, which can In fact almost solo the eggs. It felt like proper WoW raiding :)
Absolutely sad to see Anu'Arab nerfed like this. Nerfs are HUGE, losing poison is just way too much, and in exhange he gets 10 more damage... ok.
He was the most fun champion for me. I also invested pretty much all my resources in him and his army. I will be more careful spending resources from now on... at least I got value out of him by killing Ony.
Was fun while it lasted...
And this is the exact reason why Anub needed a big nerf.
Being able to only just kill bosses that are 3-4 levels above you: Sure.
But being able to clear the last/hardest boss in the game at -9 levels means something needs to change...
I 100% agree that Anub needed some nerfs and raidbosses needed to be altered/buffed to compensate for the potential to infinitely stack poison.
We spent 4 hours also with my wife, her army was 24. With bats and skeletons 21. And also did it.
That was fun though, but it couldn't last forever.
@@Stompy1984 The problem is how poisons work tbh. Each poison debuff should be it's own instance; that way you can not stack poisons infinitely and the DPS is WAY lower, just like ignites worked in PoE (don't know if they still work the same). The problem with this is that it's way too CPU intensive, to have hundreds of DoT instances running in multiple units at the same time.
really good taf thanks Guardian !
...hope they didn't change trap door aside number of scarabs bc it used to stun and keep being targeted by the tower during bury time......, finally will have to try using him as "decoy" for garg...
I'm glad you're being critical. It might make Blizzard change their approach!
Glad I grinded onyxia before the patch.
Why can't they just create more content? Then there's a progression...
I got nothing to do myself, I don't like to pvp much so...
@@Sakan81its sad that in a year we get just one zone. And this zone is the highest at lvl 26... then comes ony at 30....
Exactly
Good thing I got my Anub'Arak Onyxia kill already I guess.
When do these go live? Because it still feels like nothing has changed. Anubarak & Malfurion are still strong af. The other leaders don't really affect them all to much, you're either playing those 2 to win or not.
Did they also buffed Ysera?
They tuned a bit anub for pve but they Sky Rocket him in pvp,scarab blowing up dal dmg to tower now and also deal increased dmg that's pretty insane
She shouldn't have been available at such a low level if it's a problem for people to beat her at that level. You can't enter a lot of content early in Warcraft.
cant really seem to beat geddon or golemag with randoms... its annoying since before that raid finder, doing it with my guild wasnt working either
Anub went from
My favorite to least favorite!
Just started playing this game, nerfed my first leader....now i nerf this game by uninstalling
Due to the fact that Blizzard changed the mechanics of the hero, right down to his description, is it legal to demand a refund for the product?
The characteristics of the product do not correspond to those stated at the time of purchase, as a result of which I ask for a refund.
Without ur videos, casual players would have no way of knowing these changes
They should reference changes within the game
The way Blizzard buffs raid encounters is too artificial. Why not add a monster that does the same thing as the planned nerf or buff? Would be far less lame than these coded in boss.clearPoison() methods and depending on situation maybe they could be countered by the player.
Whats the average level i should bring to get through Molten Core? 😅
Depends on boss, first 4 should be doable around 22-24 but if someone carry probably even lower
Lvl 26 minimum
All they had to do is make onyxia remove poison stacks as they did, remove dmg from explosions and explosions will do only poison. So nerf would not be that bad for character, and onyxia fixed/buffed so strategy won't work. Nerfing hero that much is a bad thing especially for ppl who bought it just because he's so OP
Got my first rag kill this rotation 💪
Anub needs a buff that increases his damage by 25-50% or so for every scarab within his vicinity...
considering its there only real end game content atm with no real future ideas yet for more pve challenges i get they want to keep it difficult but its still frustrating way to go.
I don't think I that closing exploits is forcing pay to win.
Ive spend a lot of time and effort to lvl and tries hard to kill Onyxia while some killed it with ease using Anubarak. Is that fair?
If you’re having fun playing rumble keep playing, if you’re not don’t play. Whether or not you spend money is up to you. Being hooked up to copium thinking blizzard entertainment isn’t a business first, also up to you. Keep up the good work old guardian 👍
I hate the raids feel impossible. I have all 160 sigils and I still can’t kill Ony or get past Golemagg
Blizzard: do you guys not have credit cards ? 😂😂😂
Bummer ... wasn't able to clear Onyxia in time. Tried it 6 times, but the mechanics and approach were just too new for me to get a good run goingI could get some towers but then would be overwhelmed. Ah well ... as a f2p bummed about it, I don't think I'll be able to clear Onyxia any time soon due to my minis' levels.
Yes, depressing that Blizzard have taken this route to buffing content to make it more difficult for players like me (f2p, not in a guild) to actually progress in the game. If you compare the approach to anything done by SuperCell (think Squad Busters, also a new game) it is even more depressing, the amount of free stuff being given out in Squad Busters on a continual basis is nuts (even though it is really rough levelling your squad characters).
Guess I'm going to be stuck on Golemagg this week. Great. :(
This video is probably why blizzard don’t want to sponsor you 😢
Ragnaros doesnt event have a 2nd timer u didnt mention that bug
What bug is that?
@ forget that I was confuse
And this is why I'll only p2p for legendary bundles and nothing less than that. Merry Christmas to you too Blizz, you A-holes! You won't convince me to buy any of your 50 Mythic Value or less bundles for this very reason.
This will probably result in Anub himself receiving some buffs. Right now he is a little under half the health of a Molten Giant but has cleave and the charge instead of Siege.
If the point is for him to lead the swarm from the front he js going to need a bit more front.
They did the right thing with Anub, that talent of the explosive beetles injecting poison was very strong, when playing with my strongest leaders I had several defeats because of that
I missed the onynxia kill by like 5 hours. Ugh.
Increasing content difficulty with the intent to motivate player spending is misguided. Paywall gating drives me out of a game it does not motivate me to buy. Ironically, I spend more when I’m having a good time and getting success at reasonable challenging levels (and even when absolutely dominating in the game). Rumble for me has really high replay ability-because it’s fun to jump in and have success. Once dungeons go red I’m out.
tell them old guardian!
Yeah this is ridiculous man. I don't mind spending a little bit of cash now and again as its a really fun game, but when they just do shit like this no chance am I spending another penny on the game. This is just a less subtle way of predatory behaviour, same in diablo immortal. Not half as bad but it's getting there.
Everything is done to disgust players….ok for anubarak but what do they expected with molten core ?
Carrion spawns on anubarak instead of on dead mini is too much.
I understand that they dont stack poision, im ok with that, but just hit him with nerfhammer so much is just not cool:(
I was so close to defeating onyxia with anubarak :'(
I have spent a whole year playing daily, spent some money also and still cannot kill onyxia and get ragnaros... I have no mini below lvl 21 And got like 5 Heroes lvl 29. But still every noob in PvP already got all... I am so pissed
This sucks Anub was my new favorite champion. I’m still going to run him. But losing poison aoe bombs blows
they need to reduce his cost to 4 or 5 now
Just Que'd random Golemagg while hearing "poison nef" in video...
But we killed him anyways. LvL carries
Thay are also only making MC more annoying to clear for those ppl with recommended or higher with thise strategy
At 5:50 when you said "I've never seen anything like this before"
This isn't something new. You mentioned WoW, but in past they've nerfed classes, spells and/or talents if someone found an exploit to use in raids or PVP.
I hate nerfs as much as the next guy, but some balancing needed to be done for Anub.
That's kinda lame actually.. Corpse Run Talent is basically useless again after just 2 days...
I'm honestly so sick of this strategy from blizzard. Don't nerf our characters that we spend money on. Don't buff old content.
They could easily make new content (or even just current content with heroic difficultly) that resists our mini's OP strats.
Playing week one Anub'arak was the most fun I had playing this game in so long and now it's just gone.
I don't really see that move too much as forcing ppl to be pay to win. I think it is healthy for the game to have SOME content that requires higher levels, it incentivises ppl to keep playing (even the F2P ones like myself) if everything can be cheesed with lower levels, at lest I lose interest in them, why would I care about leveling my minies if I can do everything with a green lvl23 average team.
Lack of accessible progress means less people sticking around and people dropping the game sooner after picking up. If Onyxia is going to be end all, then I think Raid levels need to come down a little.
Are you blind or just ignorance? How is forcing people to endlessly grind and hope to get the right levels of Minis, after hours of grind and get them to pay for thst healthy? Are you Whales so du.b? Thst will force just people to leave.
The last 2 Weeks in 3 people in my guild left because of thst. 1 was a p2w player. Because also to much p2w and still grind and no fun.
One moee will leave after Anub nerf. Ge told also, last thing what was fun, maybe he will test doomhammer and then left.
Realy du.b comment, but what to expect of a simp whale.😅
2w
i dont think its pay to win outside of pvp given their matchmaking is non existent there. It could be considered pay to win "sooner" but they give away sooo much resources and stars and minis for free as long as you are playing actively everyday and especially during events.
Second, even if anub didnt exist, all the prior strats for ragnaros and onyxia still work. They didnt touch your arcane blast strat, you can still deathball drakk on ony, welp eggs execute still works on rag. Meatwagons still work on Rag. etc
So all this did was prevent 1 leader from nerfing all the end game content, so they nerfed him a little bit, which is fine imo.
❤️👏👏👏 True player. Thx ❤️
So they make a fun leader then nerf him.
Players that post broken strategies are the reason they get nerfed.
Don't blame Blizzard after the fact.
Am I the only one that didn't want to cheese onyxia? Still haven't beaten..wanna try it the way it's supposed to...I really like the way it starts slowly with more and more things happening every second
The way it’s supposed to be is clearly spend lots of money to boost peeps to even come close to
It jsut made to spend money how it was made. With anub you got a new fun strategy. How the gsme was suposed to be. Now its grining some more mothns or a year or spend money
@@imboredder why you think so? I got as f2p pretty far in few months..tbh I fked up first account bcuz no brain spending..started again and wisely upgraded and spent resources
@@thessakai7930 yeah I’m decently far too but the gap between the level 24 wall and lvl 30 is an insane grind or loads of money
@@imboredder well..since I started new account with some knowledge of what's coming late game I can tell you that I had few walls (1-3 weeks of grinding at most)..just upgraded units that's most valuable and ignoring rest...and ofc have to mention good people at guild
Blizzard strikes again. No fun allowed. Now if you wanna kill onyxia you gotta spend money or grind the same tired content for years grinding your levels up. So fun.
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Even though it's a great game. But if you make it all about pay pay pay, it will dry up because people don't have a high tolerance for that. They will find a different game or just stop playing. They also want a good result for their money, and it's getting pretty obvious that this time, you better have a ton of money to spend .. but even THEN you really don't get enough.
glad i stopped several months ago. cant wait till blizzard also fails with wow so this company is finally back to where it deserves
There is a difference between “strategy”, as you call it, and cheese.
Golemagg was strategy. Onyxia was pure cheese.
They killed both but were only 50% wrong.
Golemagg still can work, still dont clear board, so when clear poison during phases, is still possible to beat him with old strat, but probably not for low level..
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Im free to play and my Anub is level 27 currently, so its definitely a fine adjustment to make the scarabs spawn at his level. When i first unlocked him i assumed thats how it would work anyway.
First I want to thank you for all your hard work, your videos and a couple of streams I have jumped in are very entertaining and smart you have helped me and lots of people that play this game have a better and more fun time doing so. Having said that this is the first time I think I disagree with you on something: I understand you are angry they nerf the "clever" strategies that you developed but some of the cases I think the "clever" strategy was more of a bug exploit, for example the Catapult on Ragnaros, they didn't want Catas to hit him from there, it was a mistake in the design of the map, its just one side so its clear it wasn't planned, someone just drew the pixel wrong, in that case I think its fine if blizzard just stops allowing it, its not in the spirit of the encounter to cata from there, and they even let it pass and just made it worse and worse until its not viable anymore. The Anubarak fix I think is again something that can be done but being honest it shouldn't work like that, and its not their PTW trauma, its just something they didn't saw and doesn't work as it is intended. I am not saying Blizzard is perfect, or good, or customer friendly but in some of the cases its clear the "clever" strategy is just beyond bonkers and scratches bug abuse territory in my opinion. On a final note I have only spent on the initial deal and the monthly fee since it came out so I'm not f2p but in no way a big spender and have been able to clear all content with almost a year of consistent playing which doesn't seem absurd to me. Thanks for all your videos and the help in making this experience more enjoyable for us all OG !!!
Well you got me blizzard I guess I'll give you until my azeroth blessing runs out and then I'm out. It's not a strategy game anymore it's just whale bait
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I am fine with people NOT being able to kill Onyxia under level 25 or so. As someone else pointed out, beating Onyxia at level 21 is cheese, not strategy.
Now the only strategy is, one year more daily grind, hoping getting the right XP and minis, or paying money? 😅 how is that better.
I killed her in 6months just spending the 20€ + Azeroth blessing@bakuryukenji3802 it is not free but not expensive
one could argue 'cheesing' is a strategy? granted, i could'nt do it because i don't have the talent for anub.
@@Xylehek One could argue a lot of things. 🤷🏻♂️ I am merely stating my personal opinion.
Leveling up in this game is cheese. You either play for years or spend money. That’s stupid.
Heres an actual unpopular opinion - everyone having db is fine. Db only matter in pvp, everyone at any decent honor already has it. If all you bring is db with an underleveled army to pvp you will still lose badly. The fact the devs are incapable of producing more end game pve doesnt mean constantly buffing what little there is so people have the mirage of working toward something
they destroyed anubarak Itried a single dungeon with the same deck and lost all times kkkk
Typical blizzard move. Fun detected and then to the ground. This Company is so greedy.. i‘m done with them
Anub needed the nerfs. Poison stacking with beetles via skeletons and skeleton parties trivialized a lot of content.
well it is not only push P2W, but killing a lvl 30 boss with exploit with lvl 21 minis is a joke and should not exist
No exploits were used, only good strategy.
@@OldGuardian Its not an exploit, I agree, but as Waflo said it shouldnt exist, makes other heroes/minis just subpar, its not good for the game, it was clever of you to find and that has a lot of value and merit no dbout, but killing lvl 30 bosses with lvl 21 minis, being honest, is not good for the game and its not working as intended in my opinion
@@OldGuardian Good strategy hmm..., i think the easiest strategy, not a good or fun strategy. Everyone using almost same strategy, mostly on Golemagg, so the strategy is not kill or something else, still working same. But new players will be harder times, content still need properly lvl, so in the end, its ok. And the changers with poison make sense.
Blizzard is great at killing their own game. People will leave. I already have. Sad to see. More people leave, less money. Poor leadership.
Come on be realistic with that last slide. Being a f2p is possible to do onyxia with a good strategy but if people overuse a mechanic it is not really a strategy but exploting a cheesy way to deal with game mechanics. Blizzard should not be blamed for trying to have some pve content challenging and feeling like Deep breath IS. A reward and not something to be gotten by a “strategy”. Stop antagonizing the hard work of devs, it shows how bad players can actually be by trying to have everything easy, terrible personality for a gamer
Its anoying each time I am going for the said mini and not being able yo do it in time to see it nerfed at this point Onyxia ahoukdnt be that much relevant
Anub completely dead and worthless