Im enjoying seeing just how destroyed my armour is after a fight. Its genuinely nice to see multiple areas being damaged that reflects, for example, crossing a hallway and seeing that the armour did indeed take a huge hit before damage started passing through to the pmc. Legitimately a great feeling system atm
Ok, to be fair the old hit box system was KINDA wack due to bullets constantly bypassing the armor straight to thorax (and armpit deaths 😂), but I feel like this new hitbox is a bit overkill. It protects TOO much to a point you win gunfights by getting a headshot by skill/luck, or ho ever has high pen can just no skill thorax u.
What a mess. Really tired of half baked systems being revised with a worse solution. You wouldn't believe this game was less than a year away from release. Why are we still at this stage of production? This should have been settled way back when the game was being designed. Joke of a studio. Hurry up and fire that clown.
First! I really wanted to understand this myself, thank u for bringing it to us , I used app like tarkov handbook and found out that the heaviest armor usually have better protection than lighter ones, or highest number armor have more protection
I went to do the lavatory as i plucked one of those plates off a pmc. Realized i havent done enough ragman quests. I really hate the locate all the stores because this late in wipe killa is always here
nice video thanks for the effort in the end Ref-trades above level 2 are completely useless. i guess most people just play Tarkov and wont login to Arena and try do shit missions there :D
@@TheMrPandabeast tried it with a mate, we had real issues with rubberbanding, lags and stuff even though in normal EFT connection is sweet and since you mostly rely on teammates performance to win rounds for quest, we ditched it instantly :D
Could you do some sort of tutorial on how to pvp in tarkov? I'm minmaxing my builds with these videos even though I know it won't matter since I'll just get killed by better players.
It’s all about map knowledge like knowing spawns and map rotations and always checking the spots you have been shot from before. You want to catch people lacking and not give them fair fights. Always make people push you instead of pushing them.
Usually I just get shot by scavs and half the time die to a sniper because I alerted them with scavs shooting me, learning scav spawns wounldn't help much on open maps like reserve which I usually play. I know reserve quite well but I usually die when getting where I want to go, I'm not much use with buckshot on the mountain other than camping, which I don't want to do. And since people know someone will spawn there they usually tap fire and kill me with their meta gear. I started playing this game only 1-2 months ago, so I'm fighting people with the best gear, without even knowing half the things I need to know.
The material destructibility has always been a thing which is why the material it’s made out of matters when going through fights because aramid holds up through alot while things like steel and ceramic get annihilated and are good for maybe a fight. Same goes for repairing armor aramid and polymer plates are going to repair to max more effectively which is important because 100% durability means they block 100% of bullets so if you repair and armor like steel or ceramic and it goes from 100 to 60/100 max durability then it’s only 60% effective and I wouldn’t want to be using that armor unless I really didn’t have a choice.
I went to play airsoft the other day. I took a plate carrier. In the end of the day I had load of marks in torso. All around the armour plates, none im the armoured covered area. Doesnt mean I wasnt hit in the armour plate area, it means the armour saved me from being hit there. Let that sink in.... most of u think armour before update was useless because u died to torso everytime. If u get hit there u die of course, but armour saved u more times than u remember, BECAUSE it saved you.
Because armoured saved you you didn't die so you don't remember it. We had the best armour system in the gaming industry and crybabies that didn't understand it asked for it to be removed.
Its a fine change, aside from needing to reduce availabilty of Lv 6. Its still a game, and its the most fun when fights last a good while. This change means fights just last longer. 🤷♂️ Its about fun before brutality/realism. Good balance.
@@kungfusteeze emptying a mag into a guy only to realize hes invincinle because he has better gear is not exactly fun maybe you should go play warzone
with Wipe changes, the CPC and Tactech craft no longer works, as it now requires both (2/2) armor plates, so you're basically just getting a rig out of the craft. Also the Termite barter is gone.
44 pen against tier 6, what do you think was gonna happen bro ?? Also its showing you percentages. So you can kill with 6 shots too or even less, depends on various hp/durability aspects of targeted PMC and the range..
off topic when did they add packs of 50 of 9x18? i found them for first time couple days ago is this new addition since last update? maybe we will eventualy get big packs of 9x39 bc i am never picking those pack of 8 in hopes i find more and they are worth their slot lol
Been here since the start of wipe. And you can find 20rd boxes of 9x39 BP and PAB-9, they're just extremely rare, you're more likely to find a 100rd box of m995
have you seen much going on about this weird 1 shot mechanic lately, ive had mid tier class 6 plates on and died to a single shot to my thorax from a skav with 5.45 with ps ammo. it shouldnt theoretically be possible but eh. Ive also died severl times to a colateral with good armor on by being shot by like 3 7mm buck pellets alone. damage didnt even add up to zero'ing my arm and thorax together but bleh... its just been super weird. the armor felt so great right after they updated it but like the next week i almost felt like it was tweeked a good bit on the chance modifiers
The current armor system ia terrible its take way to much ammo to kill and there is no ammo avaiable in traders that can deal with lvl 5 and 6 armor. Current system act exacly like old one stims and vi plate is meta
@@xXxNECROMONGERxXx you dotn have any ammo that work as leg meta for any of semi auto guns or 5.56x39 you forced to sue smgs cuz without high fire rate it wont work
I actually like that the TTK is getting higher with new armor system.. Longer the fights longer the fun.. Leg meta should still work though, even though the previous nerf they made, it does the job..
Im enjoying seeing just how destroyed my armour is after a fight. Its genuinely nice to see multiple areas being damaged that reflects, for example, crossing a hallway and seeing that the armour did indeed take a huge hit before damage started passing through to the pmc. Legitimately a great feeling system atm
Ok, to be fair the old hit box system was KINDA wack due to bullets constantly bypassing the armor straight to thorax (and armpit deaths 😂), but I feel like this new hitbox is a bit overkill. It protects TOO much to a point you win gunfights by getting a headshot by skill/luck, or ho ever has high pen can just no skill thorax u.
Such a simple game. **head explodes**
What a mess. Really tired of half baked systems being revised with a worse solution. You wouldn't believe this game was less than a year away from release. Why are we still at this stage of production? This should have been settled way back when the game was being designed. Joke of a studio. Hurry up and fire that clown.
I guess I’ll add all this to the reference packet I keep in front of me to review for whenever I boot up the game.
At this point I'm going to have a 20 lb binder of info
it's so stupidly over the top.
I can’t be the only person who looks at my damaged plates and goes “damn, I should of fuckn died.”
Now shot guns and pistols are trash
The game is trash, Hunt showdown has much better pvp. Like people actually die when you shoot them.
First! I really wanted to understand this myself, thank u for bringing it to us , I used app like tarkov handbook and found out that the heaviest armor usually have better protection than lighter ones, or highest number armor have more protection
The new rework is dumb AF and looks like a step back. They should have adjusted the health system
Yeah I'm going to have to watch this three or four more times.
Thank you! I needed this overview soooo much!
I want to give gigabeef my giga meat because he explains this so good
you can also find class 5-6 plates in the mayors house on lighthouse in the room below the ref key room. they are on the floor near the mattress
You can get cult locus plates from PK4 after peacekeeping mission
I went to do the lavatory as i plucked one of those plates off a pmc. Realized i havent done enough ragman quests. I really hate the locate all the stores because this late in wipe killa is always here
What should we go then for now ? Lvl 4-5 meta ?
Why did you not explain how to calculate the effective durability?
nice video thanks for the effort
in the end Ref-trades above level 2 are completely useless. i guess most people just play Tarkov and wont login to Arena and try do shit missions there :D
I play arena only when I get a lega medal as a reward on a daily quest
@@TheMrPandabeast tried it with a mate, we had real issues with rubberbanding, lags and stuff even though in normal EFT connection is sweet
and since you mostly rely on teammates performance to win rounds for quest, we ditched it instantly :D
People complaining about weight
Me with max strength:
Could you do some sort of tutorial on how to pvp in tarkov? I'm minmaxing my builds with these videos even though I know it won't matter since I'll just get killed by better players.
It’s all about map knowledge like knowing spawns and map rotations and always checking the spots you have been shot from before. You want to catch people lacking and not give them fair fights. Always make people push you instead of pushing them.
Usually I just get shot by scavs and half the time die to a sniper because I alerted them with scavs shooting me, learning scav spawns wounldn't help much on open maps like reserve which I usually play.
I know reserve quite well but I usually die when getting where I want to go, I'm not much use with buckshot on the mountain other than camping, which I don't want to do.
And since people know someone will spawn there they usually tap fire and kill me with their meta gear.
I started playing this game only 1-2 months ago, so I'm fighting people with the best gear, without even knowing half the things I need to know.
Is this still current with latest wipe patch?
Love the new armor system. Getting shot in the back 7 times by 7.62 fmj and taking no damage is honestly kinda hilarious
Amazing detailed video as always! Good job! But... head,throat is the goat in this game. Not even a lvl 10 plate can protect me from that.
What's the best front plate for the Gzhel? The only one that seems to fit is the one from Killa but it's not T6
Granit 4RS, it's the worst front plate.
It sucks to have to constantly relearn what armor is good and isn't over the past 6 months but I'm glad there are ppl like beef to show us what's what
btw living high is not a crime pt 2 rewards you with an AACPC, so you can start the craft straight away with it
The Zhuk digital trade on Ref level 4 comes with 0 plates, you can see 0/4 on the flea there
So dumb that there is basically a S- tier front plate barter that needs to be removed. It actually makes it easier to get lvl 6 plates than 5 lol
The new plate system make a little plate carrier be better than a full armoured vest xD ridiculous
When they release the manikins and pre made load-outs people are probably going to pay you to set up the “best meta” load outs for them lol
SAS drives are getting really expensive becuase of this plate barter
The GP coin Zhuk has no plates sadly, so you can't buy Kiteco plates.
I basically allways use cult titan lvl 6 plates i have simply lived so many times getting mag dumped i just cant use anything else
bro when you unlock the qwest that gives you the craft it gives you get a cpc armor lol
I dont think i bought a single class 5 this wipe, but im sure this is a useful pieci of info if i ever decide to do so :D
i have yet to survive a single shot this wipe, nothing but head eyes by people i cant see.
They need to get shit together and make it more uniformed it’s bs that one level 6 is better than the other
What spreadsheet software are you using? This looks a bit different than Google Sheets
this whole system is a big mess.
Cant wait for next wipe to use Korunds again... This wipe I almost uninstalled because of how bad the armor was.
The korund was my go to armor and now it’s useless.
It will be unplayable for non sweats
cant wait for Tarkov to be like airsoft again.
btw you cant get it from ref if you actaully pay attention the zuck flora dosent have plates in it @gigabeef stop giving incorrect info
Stop sharing my tips 😭😭 I need people to overlook these things
Great video!!!
Giga comes through so hard people use him as a legit source. Nice work!
The material destructibility has always been a thing which is why the material it’s made out of matters when going through fights because aramid holds up through alot while things like steel and ceramic get annihilated and are good for maybe a fight. Same goes for repairing armor aramid and polymer plates are going to repair to max more effectively which is important because 100% durability means they block 100% of bullets so if you repair and armor like steel or ceramic and it goes from 100 to 60/100 max durability then it’s only 60% effective and I wouldn’t want to be using that armor unless I really didn’t have a choice.
this is why i only use GAC 4sss1 in T6 gear
Just go no armor, trust me, it's legit new meta!
I went to play airsoft the other day. I took a plate carrier. In the end of the day I had load of marks in torso. All around the armour plates, none im the armoured covered area. Doesnt mean I wasnt hit in the armour plate area, it means the armour saved me from being hit there. Let that sink in.... most of u think armour before update was useless because u died to torso everytime. If u get hit there u die of course, but armour saved u more times than u remember, BECAUSE it saved you.
Because armoured saved you you didn't die so you don't remember it. We had the best armour system in the gaming industry and crybabies that didn't understand it asked for it to be removed.
Sooo the plates that were meta are still meta… got it
Tbh i didnt get any of this:')
Should have included ps12B as it has a TON of armor damage, just not a ton of pen
12b has been hot garbage for me late wipe, it only tickles class 6
Its youtubers, streamers and other whiners that pushed through this incredibly unnecessary and arcadey change
Its a fine change, aside from needing to reduce availabilty of Lv 6. Its still a game, and its the most fun when fights last a good while. This change means fights just last longer. 🤷♂️ Its about fun before brutality/realism. Good balance.
That's fine if you like it. But fun is relative. I have the most fun with realistic system. I stopped playing tarkov after the last armour update
Yeah, man, I hate it when armor mechanics function properly in my game
@@kungfusteeze emptying a mag into a guy only to realize hes invincinle because he has better gear is not exactly fun maybe you should go play warzone
@@fernandoferraz3527same
with Wipe changes, the CPC and Tactech craft no longer works, as it now requires both (2/2) armor plates, so you're basically just getting a rig out of the craft. Also the Termite barter is gone.
Damn that's wild. How does one get class 5 consistently then?
@@SkarrDE2001 It's pretty much a 100% repair feature now...
7 shots to kill with an M855A1... fucking joke.
44 pen against tier 6, what do you think was gonna happen bro ?? Also its showing you percentages. So you can kill with 6 shots too or even less, depends on various hp/durability aspects of targeted PMC and the range..
800 rpm very common cheap guns
With an M4 that’s a time to kill of maybe a couple seconds?
@framekixrr half a second if you hit all your shots it fires 800 rpm/60 13 rounds a second
@@NullExotic exactly that’s even better idk what people complain about
3:50 you can craft tactecs??! im level 3 lavatory and i cant 🤔
You have to do sew it good 4 first
stocking up on zhuk with the new event
off topic when did they add packs of 50 of 9x18? i found them for first time couple days ago is this new addition since last update? maybe we will eventualy get big packs of 9x39 bc i am never picking those pack of 8 in hopes i find more and they are worth their slot lol
Been here since the start of wipe. And you can find 20rd boxes of 9x39 BP and PAB-9, they're just extremely rare, you're more likely to find a 100rd box of m995
@@BarneyGumbl3 didnt play mutch this wipe so just now i found about those changes :D thanks for reply
have you seen much going on about this weird 1 shot mechanic lately, ive had mid tier class 6 plates on and died to a single shot to my thorax from a skav with 5.45 with ps ammo. it shouldnt theoretically be possible but eh. Ive also died severl times to a colateral with good armor on by being shot by like 3 7mm buck pellets alone. damage didnt even add up to zero'ing my arm and thorax together but bleh... its just been super weird. the armor felt so great right after they updated it but like the next week i almost felt like it was tweeked a good bit on the chance modifiers
Do you have any clips and death screens? Would be interested to see
@@Gigabeefi got one shot yesterday through tagillas mask with ps ammo 😑😑😑
Yessss iv been screaming for this guide
Great
You're always keeping me one step ahead of my enemies.
We're all here... 🎉😂
what if they're also watching this video?
@@BigBlimp They aren't. They speak a different language, if you know what I mean. =)
@@OTOss8 I don't, but it sounds racist
@@BigBlimp Woah who said anything about race? What's wrong with you?! GEEZ buddy.
The current armor system ia terrible its take way to much ammo to kill and there is no ammo avaiable in traders that can deal with lvl 5 and 6 armor. Current system act exacly like old one stims and vi plate is meta
Headshots? Try leg meta?
@@xXxNECROMONGERxXx you dotn have any ammo that work as leg meta for any of semi auto guns or 5.56x39 you forced to sue smgs cuz without high fire rate it wont work
Yeah, it feels like you have to play day one until max traders, and if you stop at all, you can't come back.
I actually like that the TTK is getting higher with new armor system.. Longer the fights longer the fun.. Leg meta should still work though, even though the previous nerf they made, it does the job..
@@advaicha5982 not really people just tank to lvl VI plate and use stims instead play by the cover pvp quality decreased, i see people W with pkp
im sobbing about the fact that you revealed you can find monocletes by searching for the rigs on flea i was hoping to keep that secret to myself 😭
It’s just common sense
First :)