The Best All Around Stove | Optimus Polaris Optifuel | Review
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
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This stove fits perfectly with legs folded in the trangia pot set hole
This stove is now issued to the Royal Marines when deployed within the Arctic Circle in Norway during the winter months.
Brilliant piece of kit. Definitely "Bootneck Proof!"
Nice! Thanks for the info 👍
It's compact cone design is maximally efficient at melting snow in cold windy conditions. It's essentially a mountaineering stove like the Svea 123. People complain about it's fuel consumption but it's actually more efficient than the MSR in wind.
I have used a nova plus on two PCT hikes and several AT sections I love being able to just grab 80 cents worth of gasoline from any town you roll thru and be on your way, the Nova plus is Great !, the new one looks pretty great too
Greetings from the UK Eugene!
A great demonstration of another lovely stove. I've only used the Polaris Optifuel once, but swear by my Primus Omnifuel for most of my outdoor cooking and have even used it at home on more than one occasion. These stoves are virtually bombproof!
What I feel the Primus stoves have over the Polaris and MSR competitors is the fact that they have a built in converter for LP gas canisters but it's all apples and pears. For instance, I like the self cleaning needle that's present in the MSR stoves, whereas the Primus stove jets have to be cleaned manually - still no big deal! Your Polaris has a great system for cleaning the jets!
The pump also looks strong and sturdy, much like the ergopump for the Primus stoves. The MSR pumps are primarily plastic based and that isn't a great comfort to me.
I am Welsh and Wales is one of the countries of the UK, where you can really put a multifuel stove through its paces. Wales is a hilly and mountainous country where we get all kinds of weathers. Scotland is very similar, whereas England just a few miles from where I live, tends to just piss it down with rain all the time.
I've always been mighty jealous of you good American folks to be able to live in such an amazing country with every type of terrain imaginable. From mountains to great lakes, to huge woodlands and forests - an adventurers dream come true!
My dream is to trek the Appalachian Trail with my Primus...
..Ahh, maybe one day!
Great video again mate and I may just bite the bullet and purchase the Polaris Optifuel.
Chris 🖒.
Greetings from Colorado USA! I have done all 3 major trails here in the US... AT, PCT and the CDT. If I had only one to choose it would definitely be the PCT!
Terrific review. Your audio is always just super. Weighing fuel before and post 2hr cooking super helpful, Thanks. I have the MSR Dragonfly, but it doesn't include the built in connector to hook up an LP gas canister.
The stove is very efficient and super loud, when I fire it up in the morning everyone knows their coffee will be ready soon :)
You can run lamp oil on it. You can run alcohol on it with viton orings. Get a second pump and swap out the seals for alcohol. Soak your leather gasket in hot paraffin.
Iv had mine for years. A few times taking it out it wasn’t working well but iv then figured out that taking the metal piece off the plastic hoes helped out a lot never had a problem since from the pump.
Well done, everything explained in sequence, understandable and comprehensible.
Still a great fan of my Optimus 8R, used it for over 20 years without any problems. Switched to trangia and butane/propane burners. (Campinggaz and BRS) But for my next big adventure i would like to buy this one. Excellent rivieuw. :))
I suppose it depends what you are doing but I'd take an 8R any day.
If you are limited for cash 8Rs are going up in price but a secondhand 8R is still a fraction of the price. For repairs or servicing look at BernieDawg Cinema on UA-cam.
@@COIcultist Well i cycle and more than 2lbs for a stove? Not for me anymore.
Just got mine, can't wait to try it out 🔥
Great video! I love white gas stoves! Most folks use canisters. But me I prefer white gas. I have an old Bruton Optimus stove that is built really well. It just oozes quality! Love the stability of white gas stoves in general. I think the older Brunton's are better made than the MSR's. The Nova will simmer down to the strength of a candle, yet boil water in short order. I also have the Crux canister stove. I like it better than any other canister I have used. But I don't like canisters in general. They are very unstable with a pot on top of it, and waste a ton of fuel in windy conditions since you can't use a wind screen.
Love this stove...
Demonstration... have my doubts: you light the stove with the regulator on your opposite site (for filming reasons I suppose) that way your face is above or to close to the burner. Never do that.
excellent review and real world demonstration. I especially liked the details you included such as the before/after weight (amount of fuel used), things like that. Compact format and filled with useful info. A "no fluff" video -- perfect!
I have the Primus Himalaya omnifuel stove (older model that has the generator loop which the more modern versions have dispensed with) which I truly love. These ARE some of the best tools of this type and extremely versatile.
ya its just nice to be able to nest it into a nice little pot or what have u I still do but I cant ge tthe lid on right. telescopic would be cool if it could be made well. but ..... getn grit in there ....
I’m glad I have this beautiful masterpiece,very useful stove.
Got this stove, I tried many this thing has set the benchmark
That long stem (the valve) sticking off the stove looks like its begging to be broken off, especially in a soft case.
My thoughts as well, and same thought for a MSR stove config.
~ And here iyam, why here is my 20 year old(perfect condition) Peak1 Apex (Coleman) made their pump assembly of some type of plastic/cracked for no reason where braided meets the plastic. waaaa!
~ Wishin' Coleman would have camp up with a metal solution. ~ ~ But as we know.. If wishes were horses, beggers would ride.
Been working with my 20 year old whisperlite and this thing looks tempting to buy. That flame control is real nice
Ahaha I’m doing the exact same thing - I love my whisper lite - kind of sad to move to this stove but maybe it’s best , my primary concern ….. can it simmer and make my bacon and eggs well or my steak 🥩
Cool stove, just a polite correction, that is an iso-butane canister not an LP(liquid propane) fuel source
+Ed Baxter Thank you for that. :) I was saying that the stove is also able to take an LP canister; I was using an isobutane canister. Thanks for watching!
so is there an adapter for LP also?
+Ed Baxter Yes, there is an adapter that can be bought separately.
Now you can replace the flame spreader with a multi hole (3D metal printed?) silencer cap that's good for simmering as well. Got the stove and will get the "silencer" too. Simply the best. Built like a tank. Very clever and easy design.
Roar burners are better in the wind. The silent burners burn hotter. For my Optimus brass stoves I often Carrying both towers.
I have the PolarDawg. But it gets glowing red hot. Soo I am afraid to use it. Its a shame because otherwise it works perfect as far as noise goes.
So many choices and variations to consider and my thoughts began with ....What if ? It rains often ? Wood fuel may become a problem especially if windy conditions are added in and high fire season is a factor. Trekking over long distances becomes a different scenario where weight matters and how much you can carry. I travel over water, either by boat, canoe or Kyack which allows for more options unless portaging a lot and then weight matters more. For the hardcore, I recommend a freighter canoe, smaller engine works with more and heavier cargo up to the better part of a ton. Wall tent, chainsaw gas, tools, food supplies and emergency and communication gear all adds up with all the regular provisions. So plan your trip, know where you're going, approximate time you're gone and be sure to leave this information with a map with somebody who can call in the help if things don't go as planned. Different people think and do things differently but safety should always be the high point of a planned trip. Bear repellent may be an option but loud noise maker, flare gun may be more unexpected weight but climbing a tree doesn't always work with black bears and out running any bear is a bad idea. There is a lot to think about and know a gun is heavy, may never be needed but it might be the only thing to save your life so keep the thought close with a gun you're very familiar with knowing how to use it. Have a great time, a safe trip with camera and drone if you can handle the added weight and accessories.
Excellent! I have 2 old campingaz pure gaz systems for Alpin trecks and this stove review is just amazing... Thanks a lot! A new follower
Glad it was helpful!
Love this stove, upgraded from the optimus vega.
Mine comes ready to fit gas canisters, just tried it no accessories needed
I have that stove . ( literally baught it 3 days ago ) was just looking of how it competests to other styles of this stove, Before that I had a svea 123 r. still love it. I likeit equally when it weighs the pros and cons. my only dislike about the optifuuel is how long the stem the fuel line goes to is. I wish they made it like the nova plus where the valve is on the fuel line close to the fuel tank rather then on the stove. Packing it is a pain with the long stem .
I think the longer style of needle valve is what makes it more reliable, people like the long straight coleman "generators" more than any of the newer curved ones.
Dunno, just food for thought but it would be nice if it was more compact :(
MSR WIndpro 2 + Primus Ergopump = a relativly quiet stove that can run on canister or liquid fuels WITHOUT changing the jet or any fuel line connections! When I planed the experiment I planned on needing MSR Simmerlite's liquid fuel jet Somehow the stove is able to get a clean blue flame on with both white gas and canister fuel with the same jet! I almost forgot to mention that I was able to add a shaker jet needle to the stove without affecting the fuel to air ratio.
wow! this is the video I've been waiting for like 2 years. Finally a great review of this stove. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Ask and you shall receive. If it was that easy for all of us.
I have many converters to use the canister fuel or propane on my stoves but I tend to use white gas more than anything.
Great video
Excellent review! Thank you for your trouble, I just ordered one of these.
Thank you! Best review ever seen.
Very very good stove for hiker and tracker and also gave us good demonstration, thank you.
Accidentally filled mine with lamp-oil. The damned thing still worked with it ^^
Haha awesome
One of its major advantage is that the the cooking ban stay low near the ground which add a safe feeling.
Thank you for this review, it helped me a lot.
I just bought the MSR Dragonfly and now I want Optimus Polaris dang it lolol excellent stove and review brotha stay strong&healthy safe&happy!!(=✌💚
Excellent review. Thank you for the info, but what solidified my subscription to your channel was what you had to say at the very end in thanking God. The only right response is a resounding Yes! What a blessing to us of your willingness to publicly proclaim what Really matters, and your faith to do so. If it is heard in the natural, it is certainly heard in the spirit. Thank You JESUS!
It can be used and recover presure by pumping while the fired continue, no need to stop it and lose heat
Thanks for sharing. Amazing presentation. You have a talent to do things like that. Great job.
Great quality but the design doesn’t allow the use of narrow type cups like the stanley cook set and that’s a pity. A similar type of stove b r s 56 split windscreen for a fraction of the price that does allow these pots . They are worth a look.
There is a small screw on adaptor you can buy from amazon that will allow this stove to run on propane too.
It does so allready without an extra adapter.
Great stove question what kind of pot were you using in this video that it could be on the burner for 2 hours and then you can just pick it up without burning your hand
Very informative video. How many litres is the fuel bottle please or size is it? I found all your tips helpful and useful. God bless!
very nice stove probably the best one I have seen but you are right it is a little pricey
Quality costs.
I would rather pay a little extra for quality than to have it fail after a few times because I wanted a cheaper version.
Great review. Can’t wait to get mine. Very versatile.
My Optimus nova is leaking fuel from the burner while I turn it on, I do every step as you and the description says but it is still leaking fuel and drops alot of burning fuel from the burner while it is turned on. I have tried cleaning and did every thing but the leakage never stops
I absolutely love this stove and all others in this Class but I live in Canada where anything at a reasonable price seems to Quadruple in costs once at our Border. I don't actually Backpack due to health reasons but go to a Beach in Ontario close to our Quebec border and love it. I just now bought a tiny "Chinese" stove on eBay for $5.50 and hope it does the job of my Butane stove which (for me) has a much safer base for larger Tea Pots of water. it's too bad there aren't bases which fit onto those small cans of fuel which make them much more steady at their base!!
You look like junior Maineprepper. He's a vet who use to do videos on here a few years ago.
great review
Querosene is the most efficient fuel for me. Just a little prime with alcohol.
Great video, absolutely great video! Thanks for this!
Sold. 👍🏻
Realy want to buy this but the regulator with pipe is to long to fit in pots or even in regular paniers. They should do it shorter. Would be a winner.
YES, it's the best all-rounder.
great review I plan on getting one
I thought I’d bought the nova but just realised I’ve bought the Polaris. I don’t know liquid stoves at all so I don’t know if it’s a good mistake or a bed mistake yet.
The Primus OmniLite TI is roughly the same price but IMHO it's better built!
Thank you for a good video. Just purchased this stove. Looking forward to use it! Do you recommend stainless steel for pots and pans? Thanks!
Stainless steel is the best material to use. I’d you can tolerate the extra weight, definitely go for it.
Firebox Stove has some nice Hard Anodized Aluminum pans. ~ ...yet to use to date, but the 8" kit seems nice(there's a handle option for one of the pans in kit) Although it's recommended to season them, I'm not sure one has to, as there are hard ano cookware out there for the home. Which can't be seasoned due to wooden/plastic handled.
~ Seems the Hard Anodized is a type of protection from Alu. (research is always key) ...like some say there's two standards of titanium. (1 and 2?)
~~ While ima twaddling here, there are different grades of stainless as well.
Some are an alloy(still magnetic) vs stainless steel(not magnetic) ...My Zebra Billy pot is near a work of art (lol, oh no!, soot?) is slightly magnetic while the missuses pricey chicken fryer(just tested it) is not magnetic...but recommended temp limit at 400°..was it?..400/450 for sure.
~ blah blah...as a chem operator for forty years, I'm prolly the biggest fan of stainless steel on the planet, being I've had to clean A to Z equipment one could live in, so messed up beyond belief and...."wow, nice job Bri, we could eat off that".
My pack is getting heavy, so I'm limiting how much stainless(alloy or not) I pack.
There is titanium(TI): after retirement/never had a canteen..lol, canteen for 150.00, 750ml Toaks cup/bailed 35.00 er so. What baby wants baby gets. (-:
Not all TI-ware is crazy over priced if care not to squish for lifetime vs cheapo aluminum which bugs me of toxic possible/stainless weight. 150.00 for a canteen was, but I liked the Keith/Heavy Cover kit.
eesh! I babbled on too long again.
But before I go Atlas: Them folks at ROG did me well six months back..
~ They put out a video where the guy said "we'll do custom leather work per request too". I was in the market for a wooden handled hatchet holster and theirs looked of quality leather/riveting/color, and they modified a stock item for me. Woot! Nice stuff!
(once they figured out what the heck I was talking about) lol, I added reason for the mod, instead of only what I wanted.)
can you use a small pressure cooker with it? for example 4 qt pressure cooker size? that would reduce cooking time.
Try a quiet stove damper on it. Like night and day for noise reduction.
What do you do with the pump after taking it out of the bottle, and it still has fuel on it, how do you carry it, do you put it in some sort of container?
There just pump it out or burn it off
Hey there, my apologies for this may be a silly question but why medical alcohol or surgical spirit cannot be used as fuel for this stove?
What pot set that is what you use? Awesome video, thanks.
excellent review lovely stew bet it tasted good
Thank you 😋
Awesome review! Good job
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Hi! could you please explain what type of adapter is needed for gas canisters? I saw videos of people connecting canisters right away without any additions. Thanks a lot in advance!
Does the pump act as a sealed cap, so you don’t have to keep removing it to put the cap back on, every time you cook?
Solid video man, curious if anyone has a good nesting system for this stove and parts.
all fits in a evernew 1.3l pot
size matters when packing for a bike, kayak or back pack trip. That is the reason I have stuck with the old style Optimus stoves, The stove and parts fit in the pots.
Reminds me of my old Coleman Peak One multi fuel !
start off with some wild rice, brown it, then add coconut milk from a can.. Then add your veggies: Broccoli, Garlic, Carrot sticks and let simmer.. Low heat.. until done.
i use a vintage primus no5 cooker i picked up for 5 bucks in a yard sale, it runs on white gas or kerosene, good enough for me. Im sure this new stove is awsome but lacks soul...may sound weird but hey...
Excellent review the stove is almost as good as my MSR Universal both great stoves but almost as good as my MSR Universal
Primus is better tho
@@Kim-wc7un you mean the Primus is better for you the MSR is better for me but no matter what we should just go use our stoves and have a blast
@@buellboy007 i respect that answer, have å good day sir😁
boy named sue Then why did you bother making a statement about your MSR?
@@buellboy007 Love the one you're with. 😁
My only concern with this stove is that the metal ‘nalgene’ diameter bottles and cups barely sit safely on the legs, needing some kind of mesh plate as a stove top
The Primus omnilite Ti solves this specific problem but seems weaker in other areas, like needing much more maintenance, quality issues with the pump and doesn’t seem to have the ability of inverting the canister for colder weather, but it is still equivalently a multi fuel stove and is considerably lighter, but a trangia would be better for short term ‘bug out bag’ use anyway if only needing a small amount of fuel, but then once home, moving by vehicle or at an emergency relocation point the Optimus Polaris takes the cake and then combined with the ‘get home’ trangia alcohol/esbit/wood stove gives complete adaptability for every type of fuel that may become available, plus an alcohol/wood stove windscreen could be used with the Polaris too as a complete system
I thought the connector on the end of the fuel line would connect to a canister or the pump... Isn't this Polaris universal fit...?
would you pls kindly tell me if the pump also fit MSR bottle? Thanks very much.
This is a nice piece of kit.
The demonstration... not so much: hanging your face above the burner while lighting it....
what a great little stove. Is Paul Bolt your dad? if so I used to go to the same church as him in Ft St. John, BC Canada.
Hi, what kind of cook pot and pan is that? I've been using coleman sportster stoves for just over 30 years, they are my preferred stove. But I recently picked the optifuel up because it looked cool and I wanted a new camping toy. I'm pretty stoked to see the control on the burn, that's been an issue for every other stove like this, which is why I never bothered to grab another brand until I ran across the Optifuel stove.
White gas has 8% fewer BTU per unit than Kerosene. White gas is cleaner and very volatile, . Kerosene has 8% more BTU per unit than White gas is less volatile, but smells and is oily feel to fingers. Kerosene has twice the number of BTU than Alcohol. Another point of reference is the old brass Optimus 00 weighs the same as the Optimus Nova. and packs smaller. and has the same output, Both to pressurize and need priming. and heating the tower. On the Optimus 00 the tower screws directly to the top of the brass fuel tank and burns at full flam for an hour. My other Go To stove is the Svea 123 which tank the tower and the wind screen weigh in at 1.28 lb or 532g and require no setting up which is great at the end of the long day on the trail or a bike. All the white gas and Kerosene ( and auto fuel in most countries) pressurized stoves work better at altitude and temps around minus 20-30 than canister burners. I never cook for two hours so I never need two hours of fuel in my tank. Of course, for maximum output on any stove requires cooking out of the wind and a wind screen. Thanks for the Demo. Optimus has been making powerful stoves for well over 100 years using the same basic physics.. I have five or six variation of Optimus stoves in a variety of sizes for different types of trips. The Eskimo's have been using Optimus stoves dating back 120 years.
Svea 123 can only take White Gas/gasoline, correct? Can it also run Kerosene?
@@MrTangent the svea also runs on unleaded auto fuel. So it is printed on the stove.
@@tomsitzman3952 Yeah, I wrote gasoline. Was curious if it can run Kerosene. Haven’t heard it can.
great video.. I just got mine and I love it ..and yes as all ways thank god and our lord jesus christ for the great out doors
Have you had problems with leakage from the fuel connector (the big black ring where you screw on the fuel cable)
Excellent video.
Great review.
Thank you
Just curious as to what type of field watch you're wearing in this video. Thanks!
Great video. What is that hat you are wearing in the video? Thanks in advance.
Thx for the review! woud you pick that one over MSR Dragonfly? looks same in simmer... whats the minimal pot you can use steady on it? best M
Dragonfly doesn’t use canisters though, just liquid fuel
I have a way of gilling my
Butain with lp and its affitance
Would you say the Polaris is worth the price over the Nova? From what I can find, the main difference is that the Polaris can burn Iso fuel and the Nova can't. Are there any other differences, or am I missing anything?
that's about the only difference
Usefull for me. Thanks.
is there any data on how many hours of burn we get, between cleanings?
Depends on the cleanness of your fuel.
Well he burned roughly 2 oz in 2 hours so I would guess around a oz every hour? But it depends how high you keep that flame I suppose
I can't decide between this and Primus Omnilite ti? Ideas?
Have same problem to decide
@@Carpediem1312 I got Optimus Polaris. Seems to be the best all around, it's the sturdiest and economic, no need to change nozzle and magnet nozzle cleaning, and sturdy pump.
Looks like a much better stove than an msr. It's just as loud though.
Does anyone know what kind of a pot he is using in the video?
Could be one of many available on Amazon. Just search stainless camping pot and choose the one you like.
What makes this one better than the primus omnifuel?
So MSR xgk ex or optimus polaris
I've reduced the decision to this one and a Soto, probably the Stormbreaker one.
Is the LP converter made by Optimus? Where do you get it?
Can you provide a link for the cookware you used?
Our neanderthal ancestors cooked on Optimus Polaris.
Great video
I really love these things but sometimes i should like just ask coffee from Bar.. if you dont keep attention Cat break some part
Have you tried alcohol as the fuel?