For me by 2000 design had started to get a little less sharp by this point. Sure an E46 is a beautiful car, but the E36 is just that little bit sharper. Or the Alfa GTV vs the Brera. 90s TVR vs 2000s etc etc. Each to their own, but pre-2000ish designs tended to be more on point. Maybe a fight to the death over the exact year car design went downhill would resolve this.
Another thing that was peak in the 90s was that speed regulations where not only softer but the plague of automated cameras still had to make their way across the roads. Now they are almost everywhere. Not to forget there was far less traffic compared to nowadays.
There is a 12 mile trip from my home where I grew up to where I went to collage in 1983. I could do it in 12 minutes in my mini pickup. It included a stretch of road where I could reach the mini's maximum 93 mph. I have a Jaguar XJ6 that can do 110 mph down that bit but the rest of the journey is plagued by 30 mph zones. Probably 20 minutes now. We've lost so much!
I won't lie, I went to Czechia last year with some mates and driving there was actually a lot of fun. I think the more fun areas to drive might be left towards Central or Eastern Europe. And trust me, I know what it's like to not have fun driving as I'm from the Netherlands, we're notorious for making not only driving less fun, but also owning a car because everything is extremely expensive here.
If I may be the first non OF comment.... I got my driving licence in the late 90s. It was peak technology for diesel, probably the point where computers had taken over the fuel system but not everything else, and safety was suddenly a priority but not to the point of annoying constant beeps. Car designers and engineers were equally empowered but the accountants hadnt taken over. VW were a powerhouse driving quality and innovation across all sectors. The emphasis of transport ministers was still on road rather than piblic transport. It was the peak of the automotive age.
I’d agree it was peak VW, they have gone down hill slowly, then diesel gate hit and been pumping out some very mediocre cars. I think back in the day, all the major manufacturers had a city car, super mini, hatch, saloon / estate and the odd SUV / sports cars, now they have dozens of platforms, models and the quality gets diluted
To be fair to transport ministers: the better public transport is, the emptier the roads will be for enthusiasts to enjoy. At least, that's how I always hope that would work. We'll never know though since public transport will likely always be shit.
James makes an excellent pitch for the 90's, but for a long time now I've said that, for me, car design peaked in the 00's. The technology could still be considered modern, safety and economy improved massively, performance made several jumps, as did reliability (although not universally) and there are some truly iconic cars and designs, of all types. You have the Rolls Royce Phantom, the L322 Range Rover, Aston Martin DB9, 1st Gen BMW Z4, Mk V Golf GTi (Still regarded as the best Golf GTi by many), the Mk II Focus and the RS and ST models, the Smart Roadster, the Renault Avantime, C6 Corvette, 5th Gen Ford Mustang and the Ford GT the Ferrari Enzo and 599, the E90 M3, the 1st gen BMW MINI Cooper S with that screaming supercharger. And let's not forget that seminal moment in motoring history; the Bugatti Veyron. And did I mention the V10s? Because I would like to talk to you about our lord and saviour; the V10 Engine... M6 V10, R8 V10 and Carrara GT V10 are all cars launched or produced in the 00's, and even the LFA (THE best sounding engine ever) had the 1st production model debuted in 2009. In fact, the 00's saw most manufacturers produce at least one iconic car for the brand.
Agreed the 90s was awesome it was the advancements from the 80s dialled up a notch styling was at its peak and then the 00s came and it was like the 90s cars we’re the fuel to one up everything. Interiors became massively better better performance and economy and some of the greatest cars ever made. My one and only gripe with 00s cars is the lectronic throttle 😢 I still daily a 98 e46 328i manual cable throttle and I love the crisp feel of it
If I had to pick a ten year period, it would be 1995-2005, most all of the cars you mentioned came out by 05. Personally, 1990 to around 2010 is perfection.
@@AmosDohms Agreed! I have a 2005 Volvo S80 powered by an inline 6 cylinder 3.0 litre naturally aspirated ICE with no rust underneath and a lovely long distance tourer. Perfect for me on my longer drives and runs on LPG to help with the cost of running a car that does 30mpg on longer drives. 😅
You're not wrong James. Was saying exactly this to a friend the other week - early 90s to say mid 2000s was peak. Modern enough but still simple. Loads of variety. Sensible sizing including wheels. Minimal beeps and nagging.
It was. I think you could say that it spills in to the early 2000s too, probably started to go downhill at around 2004 when cars started to get bigger, electric steering came in etc
Performance cars, in my book, peaked on early 2010s. The likes of 430 Scuderia and later the 458 Speciale, 997 GT3 RS 4.0 and later the 991 R, Murcielagos and Aventadors, they walked that fine line between analog and digital in perfect harmony. Though every once in a while I looked at EK9 Civic Type R, R34 GT-R V Spec (must be in Midnight Purple III), FD3S RX-7 Spirit R, Delta Integrale EVO and all the Group A rally homologations and I thought 'Yeah, 1990s was just right...' EDIT: Oh. Crap. Rosso Corsa Judas really did it again. I fear your 550 might one day throw you to the Pharisees, then regret it and commit seppuku. Hope things got better for red Judas.
I would say late 90s to the late 2000s was the peak era for cars (99-09). They were fun to drive whilst being easy to work on, styling was clean and nice on the eye. No silly tech, no stuck on screens and no complicated systems. A car to be determined as a 90s car needs to be released in the 90s regardless if it ran into the 00s for sometime. As an owner of an Honda S2000 myself, cars like these were peak motoring and hence why you won’t see one like this again, they are brilliant even today. Cars of this era was made with no limits or budgets, they were made by drivers for drivers. Great video.
I do agree with that statement. Car development did really start to move in the 1960-ies, with some interesting development, but the 1990-ies was the same on steroids
I think crucially 2000’s cars are significantly more reliable than 90’s cars while still not being too complex, making them more useable overall and hence my winner decade. A follow up video for 2000’s cars should be on the cards!
@@AmosDohms love it but cutting out 90-95 is a big loss. Cars were getting alot heavier by 2005 with safety features and the bloating affected the styling
@@1greenMitsi For me, the best 90's cars were still in production in the back half of the decade. More importantly, how can you exclude the Carrera GT, Enzo, Ford GT, and of course the Veyron? Also the Murcie, Gallardo, and F430, and on a more common level, the C6 Corvette, 5th gen Mustang, 987 Cayman/Boxster, and 997 911.
@@AmosDohms think about what youre cutting out McLaren F1 Lambo Diablo XJ220 EB110 Porsche 964 968 BMW E30 M3 NSX R33 Cars +05 lose points in weight tech style vs 90s. Its close but no, id happily extend it to 2 decades with 05-to 10 being the fade from peak
@@1greenMitsi F1, Diablo, NSX, and R33 were all produced in 1996. Losing the EB110 and the 220 suck, but I don't think it's hard to say that the Veyron and either of the GT's make up for it.
Here in the U.S. my opinion is that the Late 80s through late 90s is peak. The Japanese manufacturers earned a reputation for solid reliability through the 80s that forced the big 3 to follow suit. We went from 100k miles being a death sentence to being just another point of scheduled maintenance. Fuel injection had reached a point of having the least amount of components and it just works for years and is easy to repair when needed. As for “features” we got most of what we needed standard without all of the screens and integrated modules. The intersection of technology, emissions standards and crash standards were at a place where cars were relatively safe, somewhat lightweight and things like low tension rings, and cylinder deactivation, that lead to oil consumption, were not required to eek out every drop of mpg. Paint and prep were to a point where most cars weren’t rusting out within a few years. We personally daily drive 2 99 Hondas, both coming up on 300k. This is 100% by choice. Not necessity. I also have an S13 that I love for its simplicity, looks, and perfect size for me.
I still love driving my 1990 Audi 90 20v. Solid, characterful, designed by engineers with integrity, built to last decades. Simple, non-invasive electronic systems where it matters; ecu/sensors for mpi fuel injection, abs controller and a functional 'autocheck' computer system (that compliments dials) for fluid levels/temps/bulbs. Love the 2.3L NA straight 5. 170hp, 1200kg, 140mph so still brisk enough but sounds glorious, loves revving out to 7k rpm and it's good for high mileage. A fundamentally mechanical car with traditional tuning from the factory that is easy to work on / designed for owner self maintenance. Also a rare model and underappreciated!
How's parts availability for the 90? I've got a B5 A4, and have been beating my head against the fact that Audi have discontinued most of the parts, and the aftermarket is completely worthless.
@@mrflippant somewhat precarious! I've been managing ok with spares like bushes, bearings and brakes from Autodoc but certain parts are unavailable such as headlamp units & trim. In those cases, I have to rely on the Audi community for used items and they're getting expensive. I know my father is struggling to get a washer reservoir bottle for his B5 A4. Audi don't seem to want to know about their legacy customers.
I have to agree, IMO almost every manufacturer had a truly iconic vehicle at the time i.e. McLaren F1, Lamborghini Diablo, Porsche 911 GT1, Dodge Viper GTS, Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1, Ferrari F355, Honda NSX, Nissan R32 GTR, and so many more.
@@doommonger7784 I grew up with a father who owned a 1st gen Viper from 95-2015. So my perspective growing up was the big boys were all that mattered, though my first car I bought myself was a 94 Z-28 which I thoroughly enjoyed. I also think 1st and 2nd gen MR-2's are very cool cars.
Totally agree that each manufacturer had distinctive look not only from others but from within. Nowdays one cannot tell between a C E and a S class Mercedez at a glance without checking the badge.
To be honest, I have a hard time telling most of the Sacco sedans apart, and the generations before that as well. Mercedes generally does hold a very homogenous styling department across their line historically. Probably too much, in my book.
yeah you picked a bad example given that Mercedes back in the 80s and 90s had very similar looking cars. a W140 S class and a 90s W124 merc look way too similar, while the 500SEL and a W123 have too many similarities
Completely agree! Power steering was still hydraulic, downsizing was still just a bad dream, and many brands still had their character. Much nicer than today's ugh offerings.... Those really don't get me excited- at all. Also, rust had ceased to be the number one cause of death for cars, as it still was in the 80s.
I agree with you James - (some) cars took a step up in the 90’s. From my car history point of view- the Honda CRX got VTEC, making a great little affordable car even better. At the other end of the spectrum, Honda made the NSX in aluminium in the 90’s, and made it better in 97 with the C32B engine, and even better in late 99 with better ABS. That’s why my NSX iis a Type S from December 1999.
90s is where it’s at for me. Not just with cars, but, with movies, music, everything. It really was the best decade for me. Back to the cars though. I drive a2000 Lexus LX470 which made its debut in 1998. I love that car. It’s properly 90s luxury at its finest. Old enough to be easy to maintain but new enough to somewhat efficient. As it’s based on a Land Cruiser and I live in a rural part of Australia, it really is just the best of everything for us. Great video. Need to see more like this
My 2000 Lexus LS400 was the best and quietest car I have ever owned . I sold it on a while back when I moved abroad. It was a wonderful to drive V8 and totally reliable and quick too for its day with 290 bhp.. I kept in touch with the new owner; it's still on the road (2024) and it passed its last M.O.T. test without any advisories. Its at 220,000 miles now and still has original autobox. Got to hand it to Lexus. Topped the reliabilty ratings in those days for a reason.
90s - they got emission controls sorted so power levels started to shoot up. This was matched with major improvements in affordable tyres. Most manufacturers seemed to get the knack of making cars that had a modicum of handling.
@@cammyd7514I agree ,it is 60s the cars are sexy to look at , no computers or tech, in 60s America street racing was huge and card were built for Drag and Street Racing aimed at young men, and also The Supercar was born.
The 60s were such a decade of rapid advancement. Comparing a car from 1960 in 1969 is already worlds apart. Performance, driving dynamics, styling and all sorts of other things made these cars so much better than their predecessors. Also introduced some of the most iconic cars of all time such as the 911, Miura, E type, all the muscle cars, 240z and whatnot.
You’ve hit it right on the head! No vehicles have made me feel WOW for years, everything is similar or copied by everybody else. The 90’s set the stage of excellence in design and desirability but at some point they lost it and all that’s left are manufacturers copying everybody else.
Fully agree. The 90s ruled. I had quite a few of the cars mentioned during the '90s (Mk.3 Supra, Mk.4 Supra, Boxster, E36 325i, E34 M5, E39 535i, Nissan 300ZX (z32), Subaru, E32 730i, 735i, 750i, Celica GT4, Senator 24v, W210 E-class). I really lost my damn mind and loved every minute of it.
I learned my job as a mechanic in the 90s at an Opel dealer. It was a great time! We had Omega Evolution, Irmscher Senator 4.0 24V, Kadett/Astra GSi 16V and of course the Calibra Turbo and V6! You also have to consider the relatively cheap petrol/gas prices back then. Fuel economy wasn't as important as today and so i drove a BMW 325i E30, which did about 20mpg (UK), and it was fine.
Other 90s classics include the Aston Martin DB7 and the Alfa Romeo 156 and GTV & Spider! The DB9 is one of my all-time favourite fantasy cars and Clarkson himself said it was one of the most gorgeous things mankind has ever made. The 156 was European Car of the Year in 1998 with clean stylish crisp Italian lines which also consigned the charming but boxy 164 to the sidelines. Clarkson himself made a piece for TopGear about how the GTV was, despite being flawed in so many ways, the coupe of the time that always made him turn back and look at it…
Yeah, sorry James but as someone nearing 60 year of age who used to think the 80’s were boss wrt car design, I have changed my mind and now believe that there isn’t a definite decade which takes the crown. For the simple fact that they all have some absolute gems but also some real munters. Far too many of either end of the range to mention but you know what I mean. Fab video. 👍
I think it depends a lot on your age, when you first become interested in cars, so for me it's 70s cars, Aston Vantage, Countach, Ferrari BB, Stratos, Pantera, Esprit etc. Plus the more mundane Allegro, Dolomite, SD1 etc which always bring a smile to my face when I see them now, not least coz I can't believe they're still going!!! 😂
As a child of the 90s, (ok born late 80s) I would definitely agree. 90s cars are generally modern enough to be comfortable, quick, easy to drive and live with but came before cars started ballooning in size, weight and complexity. Although I also love the 2000s for its engine arms race with ever more crazy V8s and V10s appearing in otherwise very everyday cars. Both great eras.
I'm 28 and I've gotta say I'm recently finding myself getting stuck around the 2000s and 2010s for my preferences. Just like you said, I think a lot of it's because they're my formative car years. But there is also some actual reasoning to it, because I do like cool, modern stuff, cars included. Especially the 2010s were still modern and sleek and techy, but hadn't gotten toooo lost in the sauce of modernity like we're starting to do in the 2020s. 2010s/some 2000s cars are what I see as 'Just modern *enough*' (Favourite cars being the original 4.2 R8 and the prefacelift (and preparticulate filter...) v8 F Types)
Styling is in the eye of the beholder, but your points about the variety of cars and the sweet spot between reliability improving and regulations not yet being too restrictive are strong. On the variety point, manufacturers at the time still had the confidence to differentiate themselves, now they ape each other so much.
Great video James! As a somewhat biased Chimaera 450 owner, I couldn't agree more. I grew-up with 70s and 80s hot hatches as the aspirational set of cars (I'm 46) and loved my mk1 and mk2 GTIs but the VR6 Corrado absolutely rocked my world and led me down a path of big engined 90s coupes I've struggled to move on from. Keep up the great work
I changed the exhaust on my MR2 to a huge 3.5 inch dual exit exhaust and also fitted a sportscat that allowed greater airflow. I also fitted a K+N cone air filter which was a much less restrictive air filter. The ecu was pretty rudimentary so it would feed as much fuel as the oxygen sensor said could be burnt. As a result after a hard drive and once the exhaust was hot on the overrun my MR2 would spit fire out the exhaust. I used to get about 19mpg average. I eventually had to take off the K+N because the only way to pass the MOT at the garage the mechanic said was to take off the K+N and stuff towels into it to limit airflow. I had noticed low end torque had been affected so I relented and put the original airbox back on. The sound from the K+N 54i was epic and I missed it the entire rest of the time I owned the car. It made it have such a throaty roar from 5000rpm to redline at 7250. SW20 MR2 MK2 rev3 == Best car. Luv and Peace.
What liked about the 90s was the Venturi 400GT and 300, Lotus, esprit v8, Lister Storm, Marcos Mantis GT, TVR Cerbera and Griffin 500, Helem V6 Renault spider, Maserati Shamal and ghibli, ,Mazfa RX7, Honda NSX, Mishubishi Lancer evo, Bentley continental T and R, Tommy Kairi ZZII, Aston Martin Vantage and DB7, Jaguar XKR, Caterham 21 Nissan 300ZX and skyline R33, Ferrari F355, Porsche 911 GT2, Gillet Vertigo, Ford Mustang Saleen SR widebody
Wonderful video. Thank you so much for including the C5 Corvette. Not many people consider it. I would have included the Miata (rejuvenated the sports car and went on to put a smile on a million faces). And yes, I know the Miata was introduced in 1989. Haha.
As long as you’re happy to play fast and loose with the start dates and include cars launched in the 80’s and still available in the 90’s I’m with you. I could cut from 85-95 if preferred!
Totally agree. Always thought it is because I was in my 20s then. But I think the point is, that cars in these days had enough power but weighed much less then todays. I mean my Opel Kadett 16V had 150 PS at 1030 kg, the Calibra turbo was 204 PS at 1350 kg (awd included). I own a 2004 996.2 GT3 Clubsport which is so much fun to drive, even when you are only cruising around. The lightness of cars is totally lost and so is the connection to the driver. My daily car is from 2011 and I have no intention in switching to something new.
As a child born in '66 and raised in the '70s, (and who learned to drive in the '80s) I can't argue with this. I still remember the controversy over the 1986 Ford Taurus being a bit "round" and being called a "jelly bean" or a "potato". That said, I do have a soft spot in my heart for the C4 Corvettes.
Honda were the supreme car manufacturer in the world from the 80s until the 00s, and the 90s were their peak. Simply unrivalled in terms of performance/reliability/practicality and value for money. It's telling how no car company other than Honda, has ever managed to build reliable high-specific output N/A engines, even to this day. Honda did that in the 80s.
Geography plays a part as much as the era we grew up in. Being in America, it took until 2001 for us to get the Subaru WRX, and 2003/2004 for the STi and Evo battle to reach our shores. A bit late to that party, though other aspects were changing on this side of the pond. Our normal midsized cars went into a power war when Nissan threw in the VQ35 engine into the Nissan Altima (240hp was a lot for a normal family sedan, when most everything else in the class was barely tickling 200hp). That battle spawned the 3.5L Toyota V6 for the Evora, after all. American companies also started to care about something called "handling" around this time, going to the Nurburgring for testing, Chrysler brought us the RWD Hemi platform that has spanned to the modern day, GM tried to tackle the Miata along with reviving the GTO (which flopped and eventually ended up bringing the Camaro back). Indeed, the '90's had a few cool things here in America, but not as much as Europe. At the most, America in the '90's had the Viper, love/hate Plymouth Prowler (lot of aluminum and a rear transaxle in often overlooked for "not a V8"), the ZR1 Corvette, Shelby Series 1, Ford played with DOHC modular V8's (Mustang Cobra and Lincoln Mark VIII and lesser extent FWD Lincoln Continental), and some oddballs like the Panoz AIV Roadster and Esperante (which also used that V8). But the '90's simply never quite hit the spot for the every-day hero cars as much as "the naughties." There were a few Japanese sport compacts, but never seemingly as interesting or compelling as what followed a generation or two later. With that said, the mid-90's flowed well into the mid-2000's, as the TT and Golf received the 3.2L, DSG set a new precedent, and airbags started to shrink to be much less of a diaper in the middle of the steering wheel. The 2ZZ-GE of the last generation Celica lived on from 1999 into the later naughties, including the Elise of course. The MR2 Spyder was also a barely 1990's product. While AMG existed in the '90's, it really seemed to proliferate in America into the early 2000's when the supercharged E55 came to be, but that era also brought far more nannies, even if not to todays ridiculous amounts. What the '90's did was set us up for a new era of greatness, with better turbos, ECU's, and variable valve timing technologies to make our cars much more flexible for the following decade.
I personally put it at c.1995 to c.2005 - the era where the design trends of the 90s found their feet, reached the mass market, and disseminated widely enough that most everyday cars had a good engine, solid gearbox, decent suspension, and generally looked ok. Most manufacturers in most markets were putting out something fun, and by the mid 2000s the good cars of the mid 90s were entering the second hand market, meaning that almost everyone could have a cool car if they wanted. OBDII became mainstream, making tuning more accessible, and electronic systems were still mostly contained in replaceable modules. It was a good time where the cars were good out of the factory, easy to make better, and easy to repair and maintain.
This bloke has literally 10s of 000s times more car knowledge than I do so I'm sure he has a point. Definitely some very pretty and underrated models from the 90s. I'm a bit of a sucker for earlier cars looks-wise at least, I think 30s or 50s would be my favourite decade for looks. But in terms of balancing authenticity, looks, performance, accessibility, all-round class, he could well be right about the 90s.
The Honda Integra DC2 which I picked up in the late 90s and drove for 18 years/195k miles will go down as my all time favourite ... light weight, revvy engine, fantastic steering and chassis. The right amount of go for the road without attracting (too) much attention!
You make a good case for the 90’s and as an all round good car decade, things were getting more reliable, safer and faster, but without a lot of the electronic driver aids. I think the 60s and 70s had some really ‘out there’ designs which slaughtered the 90s, but were far more fragile. The 80’s was largely about rubber bumpers on rehashed 70s designs, but a few really amazing cars also came out of the woodwork too.
I agree with everything you said, but how could you forget TVR? Some of the most raw, aggressive, and pure drivers cars ever made, and some lovely examples came from the 90’s.
I absolutely agree that the 1990s was the best decade for cars. You've definitely listed a lot of motoring icons back in the 1990s, but I think there was one glaring omission: the Mercedes-Benz W140 S-class - particularly, the 600SEL, S600 and CL600 - the V12 variants. I was a teenager in the 1990s. Before my teenage years, my dream car was a W126 S-class, but when the W140 was released, while I still had an affinity for the W126 (and the W116, as I had my first experience in a Benz in a W116), the W140 boasted many more electronic wizardry, double glazed windows, far larger and more spacious interior, and generally also a much more solid feel than even the W126. And then I heard the V12 engine start-up, and I was hooked. To me, the W140 represents Mercedes-Benz at its peak. They were THE luxury car of the 1990s. Meanwhile, a Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit/Silver Spur was riding on a platform that dates back to the Silver Shadow, and while the E38 was a competent luxury car, it never had the presence, or the brand cachet of a W140 S-class, and from many of the reviews I've read, it didn't have as comfortable a ride as the S-class either.
Early NCAP transformed safety in the early 2000s so even cheaper cars were safe and substantial, and aircon became normal, yet selling prices were still keen.
Well Jay, there must be something in this! I've my perfect 90s 2 car garage, and I love them, '99 E36 Touring in Meer Green and a 996 C2! You're welcome to drive them anytime to keep the nostalgia going
I've fell in love with 90's cars', I really struggle to shake that obssession to such a point where I struggle to even consider cars outside of this era
Yes. When I think about it, you are totally right. Styling-wise I would go for the 60ties or 70ties, but for the complete package it was the 90ties. Maybe that's why I drive a '98 CLK...
Fully agree, I drive a Porsche 993 and 968, although both are continuations of eighties cars, they are peak ninties with all the drawbacks, but also all the (many) positives
I would have to say early 90's, we had moved from the strange to slightly strange and weird, new designs coming out every 6 months. Each manufacturer trying to out-do the other, in terms of how different they could go. Much better than the 00's when cars seemed to just follow the then trend of headlights, tail-lights, bumpers and wheel arches. In the 90's at night you could be driving and know exactly what the car was behind by the headlight shape.
I passed as a 17 year old in 1990 and collected 6 points in my first 6 weeks of driving! 😄 After that I learned to use my mirrors and be more aware of my surroundings! Ironically, despite owning several hot hatches and sports coupé/saloons through the 90’s and 2000’s, I only ever got points on my licence whilst driving either my mum’s car or a works van! I miss the days before speed cameras every 400 yards….
I was a teenager in the 80s, so 80’s music is the best genre and there are many 80s cars I lust after, however By the 1990s corrosion resistance had improved significantly whilst heavy use of electronics was mercifully limited. Driver ‘aids’ were limited to, if you were lucky, abs. The driving experience was still an involved and visceral analogue experience. The roads were also mercifully free of cameras and the roads much less congested than today. So I would agree The 90s was a great decade for cars, and for driving.
I can hardly believe you left out the SW20 MR2. That was a 90s icon. The supercar for the everyman. In terms of looks it owned everything. Granted we should have got the 3sGTe rather than the 3s-GE engine but even the 94 incarnation of the 3sGE had more bhp than a 2002 BMW 2.2i. With 174bhp it was still a fast little car. The handling was amazing and it looked like an exotic car.
To me it's late 70's to the mid 80's for me and no I wasn't raised in that Era I was born in 2000. My family has cars like the Z31 preludes crx's and even a pinto. To me that Era of cars has the perfect blend of simplicity, build quality, and easy mantinance that later cars lost with all the electronics and tech that got added. The car I use everyday has really sealed the deal for me my 1981 Toyota Celica with over 500k miles on the original from 81 internals I've owned the car since 2014 and have been using it as a daily since 2018 yes its slow but it starts everyday gets 40 mpg and is more fun to drive then a miata not mention 400lbs lighter then one as well.
Although I wasn't born until the 2000s I really have this affinity towards 90s/00s cars. I think it's just what I saw reguarly? Maybe it was the fact my Grandad had a Volvo 740 in the early 2000s and I remember being in the back of that. It's whatever you grew up withj like you say.
Having been there, the 60’s were more fun for those of us who like to get our hands dirty, but the 90’s were the absolute performance/simplicity pinnacle.
I think the sweetest thing about 90s cars, for me, was that not everything was forced induction to get its power. A lot of companies exterimented with valve train tech and threw gobs of revs at it to make the car a good EXPERIENCE rather than getting super anal about power numbers and efficiency.
Being a 77er I couldn't agree more. To me the 90's also brought the rebirth of the affordable sportscar in form of MX-5 (89-) and the Japanese hot-hatch like VTec Civics. Music was also better in the 90's ;) You are awesome, thanks.
For me its the 2000s. They are the peak of naturally aspirated road cars. You had engines to die for from practically every manufacturer as well as dynamic well riding chassis with enough refinement to be used every day. Sat Nav was usable and still is if you can can bear it and the cars werent getting too complicated for someone motivated enough to learn how to work on it. Best part, they're mostly affordable now which is great for a guy like me!
While I was born in the early 90's, I "grew up" in the 2000's. So, as far as cars go, as a whole, that's the decade I sit best with, but I can't deny for a second that the 90's were a brilliant time for enthusiasts. JDM alone was never before, nor since been as desired as it was in the 90's, and I'm firmly in that camp, as well.
I drive a 2001 SLK 320 the most Modern car I've ever had was TT 1.8T 05 plate, and love the simplicity of late 90's/00's cars, they still feel analogue but every day usable, it's how 80's cars felt in the early 00's. Tactile & fun not over saturated with tech! Pick up a 00's car now is the next up on the block for being a classic invest.
I personally think that, the 60s gave us iconic literal pieces of art on wheels, in the form of the Miura, 250 GTO, E-Type, 911, GT40, Mustang, C2 Corvette, 2000GT and so on; the 90s on the other hand, gave us cars that are incredibly close to our hearts (well, close to mine anyway), apart from having the performance to match the beautiful looks. If I had to make a list of my top 20 favourite cars of all time, I'm very confident that close to half would be 90s cars. And while I agree the 00s also gave us equally stunning cars that were even objectively better, they somehow don't have that sense of mystic that makes the 90s cars stand out. It's that layer of extra that you can't count or explain on paper that does it for me.
Absolutely right. The variety of engines, good power but not ridiculous, unusable amounts, no touchscreens, minimal electronics, and best of all, minimal to no electronic nannies. Only traction control which could easily be switched off. So you had to have driving skill to drive the cars properly. Cars were analog and had character. Not just in how they looked but in how they sounded and drove. And the sizes were correct. Not all these huge, overweight cars of today, which you couldn't tell what marque they were if you didn't see their badge, and are nothing more than smartphones on wheels. Those were the days...
I totally agree with you. I had a BX GTi, E39 528i, Audi A8 V8, Nissan S14, those were good cars with a fun factor you cannot find now. I still have a Chimaera (by the way thanks for the first seconds of your video 😉). However, I bought few weeks ago a Mini R50 90hp, I'm really enjoying it, this is a 00's car but still fun to drive. To be honest, late 60s and early 70s are also a good period. Dashboards were still nice, driving experience is quite close to what modern cars, I had a 69 MG B and now a 73 Scimitar. I love them too.
I've been driving since the mid-70s, and my favorite cars I've owned are my 1990 300ZX TT, 1995 BMW 328i, and 1998 M3. I'm shopping for one of these now because I miss them. All were manuals, and sadly, manuals are being phased out. I did also have a 1997 Volvo 850R, which was a great driving and rare car.
I love 90's cars. Have you ever had a Peugeot 406 coupe to drive? I used to have one. Yes it had all the Peugeot problems but it was designed by Pininfarina and I still think to this day, one of the best looking coupes ever made.
Everything in the 90s was amazing. Music, film, cars you name it. Must have been something in the drinking water or something coming through the hole in the ozone layer.
90's and early 2000's were a time where engineering was unleashed. Limited restrictions, not too much of part sharing and brands absolutely punching for the top spot!
I have to go to a couple of years back to the late '80s. As you mention as a big factor in our inspiration, mainly because they contain my two favorite cars of all time. Granted, it is the LATE '80s, but still the '80s. I don't claim any relevance outside of my own head, but the 1988 Ferrari 328 is the most desirable car of all time, tied with the 1987 GTO (based on the 328). They are the perfect blend of beauty and brawn. I'll stop now before I begin to ramble on and on and on and on about these two. As for the '90s: I will concede that the early '90s is the perfect period for affordable Japanese and French pocket rockets, and you are so right in mentioning how each automaker had their own flavor vs the homogenized market of today.
I’ve lived in 6 decades and the 90s was best for pretty much everything, not just cars…..music, movies, culture, attitudes, ladies, err, fashions…..take me back please.
Our fun car is an Alfa 916 Spider. Pininfarina design. Sweet two litre twinspark. We love it. Have to say though, for me, late seventies into the early eighties. Unbeatable cars.
I got my license in 1990. I reckon the best cars were made up to roughly 1995. After that everything is on a inverse line of greatness due to the overcomplication and overcomputerisation of the driving experience. Cars are incomparably fast now to cars back then- but are they more enjoyable driving experiences? Debatable. I'd say no.
Absolutely agree! And here at Tesla ground zero in Northern CA even my daily driver R129 Merc SL500 is starting to look and sound exotic compared to all the new “samey” cars. Also agree on the maintenance - relatively modern safety but I can still do most of my own work at home in the garage. Just took a 400 mile work trip with a millennial colleague who was amazed by all the waves and thumbs-ups we got along the way….
The whole decade was a great time for cars in South Africa (where I grew up).. Opel released the Kadett GSi Super Boss, Kadett and Astra 200TS, BMW released the 325is and we got the German Spec E36 M3, Nissan released the Sentra STi and Sabre GXi, Toyota released the Conquest RSi and Corolla RXi...so many great cars that now fetch a heavy price to collectors... Nothing too exotic, but all working class hero`s...
My two cars are Volvo 940 wagons, a NA for daily work car and an inter-cooled turbo model for my fun weekend car. Not exiting but fun, insanely reliable, all the modern technology and drivability you need with none of the overcomplicated unreliable trendy nonsense of todays cars that you don’t need. My best friend has a car collection, but his two favorite drivers are a 91 Fleetwood Coupe, and a ‘96 Brougham sedan (the last of the big V8 rear drive Cadillacs). Same plus points as my 90s Volvos. I had a couple of Boxsters for years, brilliant cars…I could go on, but the short version of this statement is: I have to agree with you! 😉
The 90’s, when (not only) cars peaked in character. And quite a lot were nicely built. That’s why I just added a Celica T20 1.8 to my cars, with very low mileage and only two previous owners since ‘94. It was my first car, and looking back, one of the better ones to drive with pleasure. Unique looks, a cabin with a nice ‘sculpted’ dash, such a nice sporty coupé. Yes, it could do with more power, but the driving feel, stability, and build quality of that car were great. Drove it everywhere for 6 years and it never gave me any issues. After that I bought a Corrado VR6: designed in the 80’s, but until ‘95 on the market with some updates. It was by far not as reliable as the Celica. It felt a bit more ‘bulky’ to drive too. But ooooh, that sound. And the looks, yes a bit boxy 80’s, but man… That front meant business. I had a fully original one, with the low lip at the front, and regret selling it - although it costed me an arm and a leg to keep it running healthy. Quite some returning ignition-related problems. But it had so much character, I just kept fixing it. Looking at the latest Scirocco, yeah well, I just look... Because for me, the Corrado still trumps that solely with it’s ‘aura’ of character.
My favorite decade in 1996 with the introduction of fuel injection, OBD II, and ABS brakes . Early versions of traction control but only the BMW traction control actually "worked" in their vehicles to 2006. 1996- 2006 = Best Tech., Best Built, and Best Looking offerings from all car manufacturers. We the public were FINALLY getting tech in our cars that made them run better, safer in a crash, easier to diagnose any problems, and even more importantly thanks to competition HONESTY from (most anyway) car manufacturers and what you were being sold. I know I know. The Words Car Salesman and Honesty are never seen in the same sentence. But consumers were getting "alot" of car at a very good price. Cars had "Value" and lasted many miles.
For outright design and variations of models, the 70's. No one copied anyone, the Manufacturers were good at just being themselves and you got great surprises. 80's started going to samey samey.
70’s/80’s for me although I stradled both, but just based on nostalgia I guess. You make a good point about the decade you grew up in. I’m probably out on my decades but some of my faves: Rover SD1, XR3i, Audi Quattro, Montego Turbo, Renault 5 Turbo, Golf GTI…to name a few👍
Completely agree. Corrosion was no longer a major concern, engine reliability was at an all time high. Plus goodies like Air Con started to become standard on mid to upper range cars.
Late 90s/Early 2000s was peak cars. The safety, design, comfort and technology balance was best.
Agreed it's the peak of mechanically engineered analogue cars supplemented and not dominated by digital technology.
I’m currently sat in one 👌
Also some cars in the Mid 2000’s too, but not nearly as many compared to before then though.
Driving a 1995 Peugeot 405 Quasar as my daily driver 55 mpg
Wet belt? DPF? Catalyst? Engine Management Problems? Er no actually
For me by 2000 design had started to get a little less sharp by this point. Sure an E46 is a beautiful car, but the E36 is just that little bit sharper. Or the Alfa GTV vs the Brera. 90s TVR vs 2000s etc etc. Each to their own, but pre-2000ish designs tended to be more on point. Maybe a fight to the death over the exact year car design went downhill would resolve this.
Another thing that was peak in the 90s was that speed regulations where not only softer but the plague of automated cameras still had to make their way across the roads. Now they are almost everywhere.
Not to forget there was far less traffic compared to nowadays.
Certainly true, the autoroute in France used to be like the wild west!
@@JayEmmOnCars The back roads in France and in Switzerland still are, the locals know where they can speed and they do, massively
There is a 12 mile trip from my home where I grew up to where I went to collage in 1983. I could do it in 12 minutes in my mini pickup. It included a stretch of road where I could reach the mini's maximum 93 mph. I have a Jaguar XJ6 that can do 110 mph down that bit but the rest of the journey is plagued by 30 mph zones. Probably 20 minutes now. We've lost so much!
Far fewer people. Where did all these people come from, over seas?
I won't lie, I went to Czechia last year with some mates and driving there was actually a lot of fun.
I think the more fun areas to drive might be left towards Central or Eastern Europe.
And trust me, I know what it's like to not have fun driving as I'm from the Netherlands, we're notorious for making not only driving less fun, but also owning a car because everything is extremely expensive here.
If I may be the first non OF comment.... I got my driving licence in the late 90s. It was peak technology for diesel, probably the point where computers had taken over the fuel system but not everything else, and safety was suddenly a priority but not to the point of annoying constant beeps. Car designers and engineers were equally empowered but the accountants hadnt taken over. VW were a powerhouse driving quality and innovation across all sectors. The emphasis of transport ministers was still on road rather than piblic transport. It was the peak of the automotive age.
I’d agree it was peak VW, they have gone down hill slowly, then diesel gate hit and been pumping out some very mediocre cars. I think back in the day, all the major manufacturers had a city car, super mini, hatch, saloon / estate and the odd SUV / sports cars, now they have dozens of platforms, models and the quality gets diluted
Non- only fans comment?
@@S1E2SportQuattro Yeah they are all deleted now but the first load of comments were spam.
To be fair to transport ministers: the better public transport is, the emptier the roads will be for enthusiasts to enjoy. At least, that's how I always hope that would work. We'll never know though since public transport will likely always be shit.
James makes an excellent pitch for the 90's, but for a long time now I've said that, for me, car design peaked in the 00's. The technology could still be considered modern, safety and economy improved massively, performance made several jumps, as did reliability (although not universally) and there are some truly iconic cars and designs, of all types.
You have the Rolls Royce Phantom, the L322 Range Rover, Aston Martin DB9, 1st Gen BMW Z4, Mk V Golf GTi (Still regarded as the best Golf GTi by many), the Mk II Focus and the RS and ST models, the Smart Roadster, the Renault Avantime, C6 Corvette, 5th Gen Ford Mustang and the Ford GT the Ferrari Enzo and 599, the E90 M3, the 1st gen BMW MINI Cooper S with that screaming supercharger.
And let's not forget that seminal moment in motoring history; the Bugatti Veyron.
And did I mention the V10s? Because I would like to talk to you about our lord and saviour; the V10 Engine... M6 V10, R8 V10 and Carrara GT V10 are all cars launched or produced in the 00's, and even the LFA (THE best sounding engine ever) had the 1st production model debuted in 2009.
In fact, the 00's saw most manufacturers produce at least one iconic car for the brand.
Agreed the 90s was awesome it was the advancements from the 80s dialled up a notch styling was at its peak and then the 00s came and it was like the 90s cars we’re the fuel to one up everything. Interiors became massively better better performance and economy and some of the greatest cars ever made. My one and only gripe with 00s cars is the lectronic throttle 😢 I still daily a 98 e46 328i manual cable throttle and I love the crisp feel of it
If I had to pick a ten year period, it would be 1995-2005, most all of the cars you mentioned came out by 05. Personally, 1990 to around 2010 is perfection.
@@AmosDohms Agreed! I have a 2005 Volvo S80 powered by an inline 6 cylinder 3.0 litre naturally aspirated ICE with no rust underneath and a lovely long distance tourer. Perfect for me on my longer drives and runs on LPG to help with the cost of running a car that does 30mpg on longer drives. 😅
@@AmosDohms I agree, 100%
The 90s had the Ferrari F50 and the MCLAREN F1 none of the ones you mentioned sound better than these or were more capable on track.
90’s 100% for me, 993 turbo, 968cs, E36 M3, E39 M5, delta Integrale, Subaru WRX, the list just goes on and on
you are limited to 'the syndrome of teenager's room' in your car perception....
The decade also gave us the MK1 Focus, the Mondeo, Audi A4, E36/E46 - so many brilliant regular cars
@@TheKenjoje it was my era, I could of easily named 15 more
@richardharrold9736ok 🤔
@@ianmitchell9102 Could "have". Never could "of".
You're not wrong James. Was saying exactly this to a friend the other week - early 90s to say mid 2000s was peak. Modern enough but still simple. Loads of variety. Sensible sizing including wheels. Minimal beeps and nagging.
Agreed. It all went to pot after the credit crunch.
It was. I think you could say that it spills in to the early 2000s too, probably started to go downhill at around 2004 when cars started to get bigger, electric steering came in etc
Performance cars, in my book, peaked on early 2010s. The likes of 430 Scuderia and later the 458 Speciale, 997 GT3 RS 4.0 and later the 991 R, Murcielagos and Aventadors, they walked that fine line between analog and digital in perfect harmony.
Though every once in a while I looked at EK9 Civic Type R, R34 GT-R V Spec (must be in Midnight Purple III), FD3S RX-7 Spirit R, Delta Integrale EVO and all the Group A rally homologations and I thought 'Yeah, 1990s was just right...'
EDIT: Oh. Crap. Rosso Corsa Judas really did it again. I fear your 550 might one day throw you to the Pharisees, then regret it and commit seppuku. Hope things got better for red Judas.
I would say late 90s to the late 2000s was the peak era for cars (99-09). They were fun to drive whilst being easy to work on, styling was clean and nice on the eye. No silly tech, no stuck on screens and no complicated systems. A car to be determined as a 90s car needs to be released in the 90s regardless if it ran into the 00s for sometime. As an owner of an Honda S2000 myself, cars like these were peak motoring and hence why you won’t see one like this again, they are brilliant even today. Cars of this era was made with no limits or budgets, they were made by drivers for drivers. Great video.
60s and 90s were truly revolutionary.
Nice
I do agree with that statement.
Car development did really start to move in the 1960-ies, with some interesting development, but the 1990-ies was the same on steroids
Agreed
I think crucially 2000’s cars are significantly more reliable than 90’s cars while still not being too complex, making them more useable overall and hence my winner decade.
A follow up video for 2000’s cars should be on the cards!
1995 to 2005 is probably the best 10 year period.
@@AmosDohms love it but cutting out 90-95 is a big loss. Cars were getting alot heavier by 2005 with safety features and the bloating affected the styling
@@1greenMitsi For me, the best 90's cars were still in production in the back half of the decade. More importantly, how can you exclude the Carrera GT, Enzo, Ford GT, and of course the Veyron? Also the Murcie, Gallardo, and F430, and on a more common level, the C6 Corvette, 5th gen Mustang, 987 Cayman/Boxster, and 997 911.
@@AmosDohms think about what youre cutting out
McLaren F1
Lambo Diablo
XJ220
EB110
Porsche 964 968
BMW E30 M3
NSX
R33
Cars +05 lose points in weight tech style vs 90s. Its close but no, id happily extend it to 2 decades with 05-to 10 being the fade from peak
@@1greenMitsi F1, Diablo, NSX, and R33 were all produced in 1996. Losing the EB110 and the 220 suck, but I don't think it's hard to say that the Veyron and either of the GT's make up for it.
Here in the U.S. my opinion is that the Late 80s through late 90s is peak. The Japanese manufacturers earned a reputation for solid reliability through the 80s that forced the big 3 to follow suit. We went from 100k miles being a death sentence to being just another point of scheduled maintenance. Fuel injection had reached a point of having the least amount of components and it just works for years and is easy to repair when needed. As for “features” we got most of what we needed standard without all of the screens and integrated modules. The intersection of technology, emissions standards and crash standards were at a place where cars were relatively safe, somewhat lightweight and things like low tension rings, and cylinder deactivation, that lead to oil consumption, were not required to eek out every drop of mpg. Paint and prep were to a point where most cars weren’t rusting out within a few years. We personally daily drive 2 99 Hondas, both coming up on 300k. This is 100% by choice. Not necessity. I also have an S13 that I love for its simplicity, looks, and perfect size for me.
I still love driving my 1990 Audi 90 20v.
Solid, characterful, designed by engineers with integrity, built to last decades.
Simple, non-invasive electronic systems where it matters; ecu/sensors for mpi fuel injection, abs controller and a functional 'autocheck' computer system (that compliments dials) for fluid levels/temps/bulbs.
Love the 2.3L NA straight 5. 170hp, 1200kg, 140mph so still brisk enough but sounds glorious, loves revving out to 7k rpm and it's good for high mileage. A fundamentally mechanical car with traditional tuning from the factory that is easy to work on / designed for owner self maintenance.
Also a rare model and underappreciated!
How's parts availability for the 90? I've got a B5 A4, and have been beating my head against the fact that Audi have discontinued most of the parts, and the aftermarket is completely worthless.
@@mrflippant somewhat precarious! I've been managing ok with spares like bushes, bearings and brakes from Autodoc but certain parts are unavailable such as headlamp units & trim. In those cases, I have to rely on the Audi community for used items and they're getting expensive. I know my father is struggling to get a washer reservoir bottle for his B5 A4. Audi don't seem to want to know about their legacy customers.
I have to agree, IMO almost every manufacturer had a truly iconic vehicle at the time i.e. McLaren F1, Lamborghini Diablo, Porsche 911 GT1, Dodge Viper GTS, Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1, Ferrari F355, Honda NSX, Nissan R32 GTR, and so many more.
Jaguar xj220
@@suad01 XJ220 was such a cool car.
+Toyota GT-one
@@doommonger7784 I grew up with a father who owned a 1st gen Viper from 95-2015. So my perspective growing up was the big boys were all that mattered, though my first car I bought myself was a 94 Z-28 which I thoroughly enjoyed. I also think 1st and 2nd gen MR-2's are very cool cars.
@@1greenMitsi those are very cool.
Totally agree that each manufacturer had distinctive look not only from others but from within. Nowdays one cannot tell between a C E and a S class Mercedez at a glance without checking the badge.
To be honest, I have a hard time telling most of the Sacco sedans apart, and the generations before that as well. Mercedes generally does hold a very homogenous styling department across their line historically. Probably too much, in my book.
yeah you picked a bad example given that Mercedes back in the 80s and 90s had very similar looking cars. a W140 S class and a 90s W124 merc look way too similar, while the 500SEL and a W123 have too many similarities
@@yeshwantdasari2075 There was no mistaking between an E and S class even in that generation. No longer the case.
@@tcat0211 I doubt that. Likewise if you can't recognise the size difference between a C, E and modern S class
That's all on you
@@yeshwantdasari2075 Like I said, the look of it no longer distinguishes the different classes of Benzes I grew up with in 70s & 80s.
Completely agree! Power steering was still hydraulic, downsizing was still just a bad dream, and many brands still had their character. Much nicer than today's ugh offerings.... Those really don't get me excited- at all. Also, rust had ceased to be the number one cause of death for cars, as it still was in the 80s.
90s was the best time, period.
civilization peak. Then came 9/11 social media and HR departments
I don't remember much of it as I was off my tits most of the time.
@@1greenMitsi You are wrong on every level
I agree with you James - (some) cars took a step up in the 90’s. From my car history point of view- the Honda CRX got VTEC, making a great little affordable car even better.
At the other end of the spectrum, Honda made the NSX in aluminium in the 90’s, and made it better in 97 with the C32B engine, and even better in late 99 with better ABS. That’s why my NSX iis a Type S from December 1999.
The MR2 SW20 would also be a good example: simple, beautiful and fun.
90s is where it’s at for me. Not just with cars, but, with movies, music, everything. It really was the best decade for me. Back to the cars though. I drive a2000 Lexus LX470 which made its debut in 1998. I love that car. It’s properly 90s luxury at its finest. Old enough to be easy to maintain but new enough to somewhat efficient. As it’s based on a Land Cruiser and I live in a rural part of Australia, it really is just the best of everything for us. Great video. Need to see more like this
My 2000 Lexus LS400 was the best and quietest car I have ever owned . I sold it on a while back when I moved abroad. It was a wonderful to drive V8 and totally reliable and quick too for its day with 290 bhp.. I kept in touch with the new owner; it's still on the road (2024) and it passed its last M.O.T. test without any advisories. Its at 220,000 miles now and still has original autobox. Got to hand it to Lexus. Topped the reliabilty ratings in those days for a reason.
90s - they got emission controls sorted so power levels started to shoot up.
This was matched with major improvements in affordable tyres.
Most manufacturers seemed to get the knack of making cars that had a modicum of handling.
60s, art on wheels even for regular cars. Plus i love carbs and distributors
why?
Because I understand them and can fix ‘em without a laptop
@@cammyd7514I agree ,it is 60s the cars are sexy to look at , no computers or tech, in 60s America street racing was huge and card were built for Drag and Street Racing aimed at young men, and also The Supercar was born.
The 60s were such a decade of rapid advancement. Comparing a car from 1960 in 1969 is already worlds apart. Performance, driving dynamics, styling and all sorts of other things made these cars so much better than their predecessors. Also introduced some of the most iconic cars of all time such as the 911, Miura, E type, all the muscle cars, 240z and whatnot.
nah 60s technology was still in its infancy, reliability, safety severely lacking. Styling probably peaked 10/10 but 90s would still score a 8/10
I'm dying on the hill that the mk1 focus from the late 90s is the best car ever made.
I still own a mk1 focus ghia, brilliant car! Will be a modern classic soon
mk2 golf
It's hard to argue
Absolutely. It annihilated the Golf in space, suspension and arguably engines too.
You’ve hit it right on the head!
No vehicles have made me feel WOW for years, everything is similar or copied by everybody else.
The 90’s set the stage of excellence in design and desirability but at some point they lost it and all that’s left are manufacturers copying everybody else.
Fully agree. The 90s ruled. I had quite a few of the cars mentioned during the '90s (Mk.3 Supra, Mk.4 Supra, Boxster, E36 325i, E34 M5, E39 535i, Nissan 300ZX (z32), Subaru, E32 730i, 735i, 750i, Celica GT4, Senator 24v, W210 E-class). I really lost my damn mind and loved every minute of it.
I learned my job as a mechanic in the 90s at an Opel dealer. It was a great time! We had Omega Evolution, Irmscher Senator 4.0 24V, Kadett/Astra GSi 16V and of course the Calibra Turbo and V6! You also have to consider the relatively cheap petrol/gas prices back then. Fuel economy wasn't as important as today and so i drove a BMW 325i E30, which did about 20mpg (UK), and it was fine.
Other 90s classics include the Aston Martin DB7 and the Alfa Romeo 156 and GTV & Spider! The DB9 is one of my all-time favourite fantasy cars and Clarkson himself said it was one of the most gorgeous things mankind has ever made. The 156 was European Car of the Year in 1998 with clean stylish crisp Italian lines which also consigned the charming but boxy 164 to the sidelines. Clarkson himself made a piece for TopGear about how the GTV was, despite being flawed in so many ways, the coupe of the time that always made him turn back and look at it…
Fiat coupe for me over the gtv, beautiful car!
Yeah, sorry James but as someone nearing 60 year of age who used to think the 80’s were boss wrt car design, I have changed my mind and now believe that there isn’t a definite decade which takes the crown.
For the simple fact that they all have some absolute gems but also some real munters.
Far too many of either end of the range to mention but you know what I mean.
Fab video. 👍
if you give each category weighted scores (styling, safety, tech, weight etc) the 90s decade objectively comes out on top
2010s, cars were approaching the ability to do everything but not to the point that they lost personality
I'm with you James. 1990s for me owning 2 x 90s cars including Max Power Project 2000. I remember watching Goldeneye at the Cinema in 1995 🎦😍
I think it depends a lot on your age, when you first become interested in cars, so for me it's 70s cars, Aston Vantage, Countach, Ferrari BB, Stratos, Pantera, Esprit etc. Plus the more mundane Allegro, Dolomite, SD1 etc which always bring a smile to my face when I see them now, not least coz I can't believe they're still going!!! 😂
As a child of the 90s, (ok born late 80s) I would definitely agree. 90s cars are generally modern enough to be comfortable, quick, easy to drive and live with but came before cars started ballooning in size, weight and complexity. Although I also love the 2000s for its engine arms race with ever more crazy V8s and V10s appearing in otherwise very everyday cars. Both great eras.
I'm 28 and I've gotta say I'm recently finding myself getting stuck around the 2000s and 2010s for my preferences. Just like you said, I think a lot of it's because they're my formative car years. But there is also some actual reasoning to it, because I do like cool, modern stuff, cars included. Especially the 2010s were still modern and sleek and techy, but hadn't gotten toooo lost in the sauce of modernity like we're starting to do in the 2020s. 2010s/some 2000s cars are what I see as 'Just modern *enough*' (Favourite cars being the original 4.2 R8 and the prefacelift (and preparticulate filter...) v8 F Types)
Styling is in the eye of the beholder, but your points about the variety of cars and the sweet spot between reliability improving and regulations not yet being too restrictive are strong.
On the variety point, manufacturers at the time still had the confidence to differentiate themselves, now they ape each other so much.
Great video James! As a somewhat biased Chimaera 450 owner, I couldn't agree more. I grew-up with 70s and 80s hot hatches as the aspirational set of cars (I'm 46) and loved my mk1 and mk2 GTIs but the VR6 Corrado absolutely rocked my world and led me down a path of big engined 90s coupes I've struggled to move on from. Keep up the great work
I changed the exhaust on my MR2 to a huge 3.5 inch dual exit exhaust and also fitted a sportscat that allowed greater airflow.
I also fitted a K+N cone air filter which was a much less restrictive air filter.
The ecu was pretty rudimentary so it would feed as much fuel as the oxygen sensor said could be burnt.
As a result after a hard drive and once the exhaust was hot on the overrun my MR2 would spit fire out the exhaust.
I used to get about 19mpg average.
I eventually had to take off the K+N because the only way to pass the MOT at the garage the mechanic said was to take off the K+N and stuff towels into it to limit airflow.
I had noticed low end torque had been affected so I relented and put the original airbox back on.
The sound from the K+N 54i was epic and I missed it the entire rest of the time I owned the car.
It made it have such a throaty roar from 5000rpm to redline at 7250.
SW20 MR2 MK2 rev3 == Best car.
Luv and Peace.
1999-2009, perfect balance of tech, design, performance, complexity
What liked about the 90s was the Venturi 400GT and 300, Lotus, esprit v8, Lister Storm, Marcos Mantis GT, TVR Cerbera and Griffin 500, Helem V6 Renault spider, Maserati Shamal and ghibli,
,Mazfa RX7, Honda NSX, Mishubishi Lancer evo, Bentley continental T and R, Tommy Kairi ZZII, Aston Martin Vantage and DB7, Jaguar XKR, Caterham 21 Nissan 300ZX and skyline R33, Ferrari F355, Porsche 911 GT2, Gillet Vertigo, Ford Mustang Saleen SR widebody
Wonderful video. Thank you so much for including the C5 Corvette. Not many people consider it. I would have included the Miata (rejuvenated the sports car and went on to put a smile on a million faces). And yes, I know the Miata was introduced in 1989. Haha.
As long as you’re happy to play fast and loose with the start dates and include cars launched in the 80’s and still available in the 90’s I’m with you. I could cut from 85-95 if preferred!
Totally agree. Always thought it is because I was in my 20s then. But I think the point is, that cars in these days had enough power but weighed much less then todays. I mean my Opel Kadett 16V had 150 PS at 1030 kg, the Calibra turbo was 204 PS at 1350 kg (awd included). I own a 2004 996.2 GT3 Clubsport which is so much fun to drive, even when you are only cruising around. The lightness of cars is totally lost and so is the connection to the driver. My daily car is from 2011 and I have no intention in switching to something new.
As a child born in '66 and raised in the '70s, (and who learned to drive in the '80s) I can't argue with this. I still remember the controversy over the 1986 Ford Taurus being a bit "round" and being called a "jelly bean" or a "potato". That said, I do have a soft spot in my heart for the C4 Corvettes.
Honda’s including the NSX up to the early 2000’s was fantastic era.
Allow me to make controversial statement: NA2 NSX without the pop-up headlights was a better looker than the NA1. Especially in NSX R guise.
@@AntoniusTyas l didn’t mind that version either, especially with the bigger engine and six speed box.
Honda were the supreme car manufacturer in the world from the 80s until the 00s, and the 90s were their peak. Simply unrivalled in terms of performance/reliability/practicality and value for money. It's telling how no car company other than Honda, has ever managed to build reliable high-specific output N/A engines, even to this day. Honda did that in the 80s.
Geography plays a part as much as the era we grew up in. Being in America, it took until 2001 for us to get the Subaru WRX, and 2003/2004 for the STi and Evo battle to reach our shores. A bit late to that party, though other aspects were changing on this side of the pond. Our normal midsized cars went into a power war when Nissan threw in the VQ35 engine into the Nissan Altima (240hp was a lot for a normal family sedan, when most everything else in the class was barely tickling 200hp). That battle spawned the 3.5L Toyota V6 for the Evora, after all.
American companies also started to care about something called "handling" around this time, going to the Nurburgring for testing, Chrysler brought us the RWD Hemi platform that has spanned to the modern day, GM tried to tackle the Miata along with reviving the GTO (which flopped and eventually ended up bringing the Camaro back). Indeed, the '90's had a few cool things here in America, but not as much as Europe.
At the most, America in the '90's had the Viper, love/hate Plymouth Prowler (lot of aluminum and a rear transaxle in often overlooked for "not a V8"), the ZR1 Corvette, Shelby Series 1, Ford played with DOHC modular V8's (Mustang Cobra and Lincoln Mark VIII and lesser extent FWD Lincoln Continental), and some oddballs like the Panoz AIV Roadster and Esperante (which also used that V8). But the '90's simply never quite hit the spot for the every-day hero cars as much as "the naughties." There were a few Japanese sport compacts, but never seemingly as interesting or compelling as what followed a generation or two later.
With that said, the mid-90's flowed well into the mid-2000's, as the TT and Golf received the 3.2L, DSG set a new precedent, and airbags started to shrink to be much less of a diaper in the middle of the steering wheel. The 2ZZ-GE of the last generation Celica lived on from 1999 into the later naughties, including the Elise of course. The MR2 Spyder was also a barely 1990's product. While AMG existed in the '90's, it really seemed to proliferate in America into the early 2000's when the supercharged E55 came to be, but that era also brought far more nannies, even if not to todays ridiculous amounts.
What the '90's did was set us up for a new era of greatness, with better turbos, ECU's, and variable valve timing technologies to make our cars much more flexible for the following decade.
I personally put it at c.1995 to c.2005 - the era where the design trends of the 90s found their feet, reached the mass market, and disseminated widely enough that most everyday cars had a good engine, solid gearbox, decent suspension, and generally looked ok. Most manufacturers in most markets were putting out something fun, and by the mid 2000s the good cars of the mid 90s were entering the second hand market, meaning that almost everyone could have a cool car if they wanted. OBDII became mainstream, making tuning more accessible, and electronic systems were still mostly contained in replaceable modules.
It was a good time where the cars were good out of the factory, easy to make better, and easy to repair and maintain.
This bloke has literally 10s of 000s times more car knowledge than I do so I'm sure he has a point. Definitely some very pretty and underrated models from the 90s. I'm a bit of a sucker for earlier cars looks-wise at least, I think 30s or 50s would be my favourite decade for looks. But in terms of balancing authenticity, looks, performance, accessibility, all-round class, he could well be right about the 90s.
Xj220 stunning car
The Honda Integra DC2 which I picked up in the late 90s and drove for 18 years/195k miles will go down as my all time favourite ... light weight, revvy engine, fantastic steering and chassis. The right amount of go for the road without attracting (too) much attention!
You make a good case for the 90’s and as an all round good car decade, things were getting more reliable, safer and faster, but without a lot of the electronic driver aids. I think the 60s and 70s had some really ‘out there’ designs which slaughtered the 90s, but were far more fragile. The 80’s was largely about rubber bumpers on rehashed 70s designs, but a few really amazing cars also came out of the woodwork too.
I agree with everything you said, but how could you forget TVR? Some of the most raw, aggressive, and pure drivers cars ever made, and some lovely examples came from the 90’s.
I absolutely agree that the 1990s was the best decade for cars. You've definitely listed a lot of motoring icons back in the 1990s, but I think there was one glaring omission: the Mercedes-Benz W140 S-class - particularly, the 600SEL, S600 and CL600 - the V12 variants.
I was a teenager in the 1990s. Before my teenage years, my dream car was a W126 S-class, but when the W140 was released, while I still had an affinity for the W126 (and the W116, as I had my first experience in a Benz in a W116), the W140 boasted many more electronic wizardry, double glazed windows, far larger and more spacious interior, and generally also a much more solid feel than even the W126. And then I heard the V12 engine start-up, and I was hooked. To me, the W140 represents Mercedes-Benz at its peak. They were THE luxury car of the 1990s. Meanwhile, a Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit/Silver Spur was riding on a platform that dates back to the Silver Shadow, and while the E38 was a competent luxury car, it never had the presence, or the brand cachet of a W140 S-class, and from many of the reviews I've read, it didn't have as comfortable a ride as the S-class either.
I feel the same way. I have a 1999 Ferrari 355 F1, a 1998 Ferrari 456 GTA, a 1995 Jaguar XJ12. I love the 90's.
Not bad at all
Agreed, was quite a good time for motorcycles as well!
Early NCAP transformed safety in the early 2000s so even cheaper cars were safe and substantial, and aircon became normal, yet selling prices were still keen.
Well Jay, there must be something in this! I've my perfect 90s 2 car garage, and I love them, '99 E36 Touring in Meer Green and a 996 C2! You're welcome to drive them anytime to keep the nostalgia going
18:41 Fun fact: wedgier shapes are safer for pedestrians than a wall of a bumper
Honorable mention to a great 90s car that you've driven but missed out. The bonkers, twin supercharged Aston Martin Vantage V550 😊
I've fell in love with 90's cars', I really struggle to shake that obssession to such a point where I struggle to even consider cars outside of this era
I got my license in the mid 90s also I took my drivers test in a 1995 Geo Prizm.. I love the 90s..
Yes. When I think about it, you are totally right. Styling-wise I would go for the 60ties or 70ties, but for the complete package it was the 90ties. Maybe that's why I drive a '98 CLK...
Fully agree, I drive a Porsche 993 and 968, although both are continuations of eighties cars, they are peak ninties with all the drawbacks, but also all the (many) positives
My peak car years aligns with my favorite classic/ old school video games. 1985 ( NES ) to 2013 ( PS3 ). Hard to pick just one decade.
I would have to say early 90's, we had moved from the strange to slightly strange and weird, new designs coming out every 6 months. Each manufacturer trying to out-do the other, in terms of how different they could go. Much better than the 00's when cars seemed to just follow the then trend of headlights, tail-lights, bumpers and wheel arches. In the 90's at night you could be driving and know exactly what the car was behind by the headlight shape.
Yep got my license in 89 and had motorcycles and cars flat out on roads that allowed it!
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I passed as a 17 year old in 1990 and collected 6 points in my first 6 weeks of driving! 😄
After that I learned to use my mirrors and be more aware of my surroundings! Ironically, despite owning several hot hatches and sports coupé/saloons through the 90’s and 2000’s, I only ever got points on my licence whilst driving either my mum’s car or a works van!
I miss the days before speed cameras every 400 yards….
I was a teenager in the 80s, so 80’s music is the best genre and there are many 80s cars I lust after, however By the 1990s corrosion resistance had improved significantly whilst heavy use of electronics was mercifully limited. Driver ‘aids’ were limited to, if you were lucky, abs. The driving experience was still an involved and visceral analogue experience. The roads were also mercifully free of cameras and the roads much less congested than today. So I would agree The 90s was a great decade for cars, and for driving.
I can hardly believe you left out the SW20 MR2. That was a 90s icon. The supercar for the everyman.
In terms of looks it owned everything.
Granted we should have got the 3sGTe rather than the 3s-GE engine but even the 94 incarnation of the 3sGE had more bhp than a 2002 BMW 2.2i.
With 174bhp it was still a fast little car.
The handling was amazing and it looked like an exotic car.
To me it's late 70's to the mid 80's for me and no I wasn't raised in that Era I was born in 2000. My family has cars like the Z31 preludes crx's and even a pinto. To me that Era of cars has the perfect blend of simplicity, build quality, and easy mantinance that later cars lost with all the electronics and tech that got added. The car I use everyday has really sealed the deal for me my 1981 Toyota Celica with over 500k miles on the original from 81 internals I've owned the car since 2014 and have been using it as a daily since 2018 yes its slow but it starts everyday gets 40 mpg and is more fun to drive then a miata not mention 400lbs lighter then one as well.
90s and early 00s. S2000, skyline, F430, M3, DB7 and DB9, MX-5, Evo VII and VIII, Impreza. And many many more, these are just my top of head picks.
Although I wasn't born until the 2000s I really have this affinity towards 90s/00s cars. I think it's just what I saw reguarly? Maybe it was the fact my Grandad had a Volvo 740 in the early 2000s and I remember being in the back of that. It's whatever you grew up withj like you say.
Having been there, the 60’s were more fun for those of us who like to get our hands dirty, but the 90’s were the absolute performance/simplicity pinnacle.
I think the sweetest thing about 90s cars, for me, was that not everything was forced induction to get its power. A lot of companies exterimented with valve train tech and threw gobs of revs at it to make the car a good EXPERIENCE rather than getting super anal about power numbers and efficiency.
Being a 77er I couldn't agree more. To me the 90's also brought the rebirth of the affordable sportscar in form of MX-5 (89-) and the Japanese hot-hatch like VTec Civics.
Music was also better in the 90's ;)
You are awesome, thanks.
For me its the 2000s. They are the peak of naturally aspirated road cars. You had engines to die for from practically every manufacturer as well as dynamic well riding chassis with enough refinement to be used every day. Sat Nav was usable and still is if you can can bear it and the cars werent getting too complicated for someone motivated enough to learn how to work on it. Best part, they're mostly affordable now which is great for a guy like me!
While I was born in the early 90's, I "grew up" in the 2000's. So, as far as cars go, as a whole, that's the decade I sit best with, but I can't deny for a second that the 90's were a brilliant time for enthusiasts.
JDM alone was never before, nor since been as desired as it was in the 90's, and I'm firmly in that camp, as well.
I drive a 2001 SLK 320 the most Modern car I've ever had was TT 1.8T 05 plate, and love the simplicity of late 90's/00's cars, they still feel analogue but every day usable, it's how 80's cars felt in the early 00's.
Tactile & fun not over saturated with tech! Pick up a 00's car now is the next up on the block for being a classic invest.
I personally think that, the 60s gave us iconic literal pieces of art on wheels, in the form of the Miura, 250 GTO, E-Type, 911, GT40, Mustang, C2 Corvette, 2000GT and so on; the 90s on the other hand, gave us cars that are incredibly close to our hearts (well, close to mine anyway), apart from having the performance to match the beautiful looks. If I had to make a list of my top 20 favourite cars of all time, I'm very confident that close to half would be 90s cars. And while I agree the 00s also gave us equally stunning cars that were even objectively better, they somehow don't have that sense of mystic that makes the 90s cars stand out. It's that layer of extra that you can't count or explain on paper that does it for me.
Absolutely right. The variety of engines, good power but not ridiculous, unusable amounts, no touchscreens, minimal electronics, and best of all, minimal to no electronic nannies. Only traction control which could easily be switched off. So you had to have driving skill to drive the cars properly. Cars were analog and had character. Not just in how they looked but in how they sounded and drove. And the sizes were correct. Not all these huge, overweight cars of today, which you couldn't tell what marque they were if you didn't see their badge, and are nothing more than smartphones on wheels. Those were the days...
Late 80's to early 00's was the best period for cars I think or the very early cars from the 1920's for example up until the 30's.
I agree on late 80s to early 2000 😊
I have a 1997 Nissan Laurel Club S 25T and yeah, it is crazy how good it is.
I totally agree with you. I had a BX GTi, E39 528i, Audi A8 V8, Nissan S14, those were good cars with a fun factor you cannot find now. I still have a Chimaera (by the way thanks for the first seconds of your video 😉). However, I bought few weeks ago a Mini R50 90hp, I'm really enjoying it, this is a 00's car but still fun to drive. To be honest, late 60s and early 70s are also a good period. Dashboards were still nice, driving experience is quite close to what modern cars, I had a 69 MG B and now a 73 Scimitar. I love them too.
I've been driving since the mid-70s, and my favorite cars I've owned are my 1990 300ZX TT, 1995 BMW 328i, and 1998 M3. I'm shopping for one of these now because I miss them. All were manuals, and sadly, manuals are being phased out. I did also have a 1997 Volvo 850R, which was a great driving and rare car.
I love 90's cars. Have you ever had a Peugeot 406 coupe to drive? I used to have one. Yes it had all the Peugeot problems but it was designed by Pininfarina and I still think to this day, one of the best looking coupes ever made.
Everything in the 90s was amazing. Music, film, cars you name it. Must have been something in the drinking water or something coming through the hole in the ozone layer.
90's and early 2000's were a time where engineering was unleashed. Limited restrictions, not too much of part sharing and brands absolutely punching for the top spot!
I have to go to a couple of years back to the late '80s. As you mention as a big factor in our inspiration, mainly because they contain my two favorite cars of all time. Granted, it is the LATE '80s, but still the '80s. I don't claim any relevance outside of my own head, but the 1988 Ferrari 328 is the most desirable car of all time, tied with the 1987 GTO (based on the 328). They are the perfect blend of beauty and brawn. I'll stop now before I begin to ramble on and on and on and on about these two. As for the '90s: I will concede that the early '90s is the perfect period for affordable Japanese and French pocket rockets, and you are so right in mentioning how each automaker had their own flavor vs the homogenized market of today.
I’ve lived in 6 decades and the 90s was best for pretty much everything, not just cars…..music, movies, culture, attitudes, ladies, err, fashions…..take me back please.
Our fun car is an Alfa 916 Spider. Pininfarina design. Sweet two litre twinspark.
We love it.
Have to say though, for me, late seventies into the early eighties. Unbeatable cars.
I got my license in 1990. I reckon the best cars were made up to roughly 1995. After that everything is on a inverse line of greatness due to the overcomplication and overcomputerisation of the driving experience. Cars are incomparably fast now to cars back then- but are they more enjoyable driving experiences? Debatable. I'd say no.
Absolutely agree! And here at Tesla ground zero in Northern CA even my daily driver R129 Merc SL500 is starting to look and sound exotic compared to all the new “samey” cars. Also agree on the maintenance - relatively modern safety but I can still do most of my own work at home in the garage. Just took a 400 mile work trip with a millennial colleague who was amazed by all the waves and thumbs-ups we got along the way….
Agree. Steering, feel, involvement and a need to drive a vehicle all existing in the 90s. SUV tanks then took over. Beautiful cars from the 60s.
My favourite affordable car was first released in 1993 and discontinued in 2000 - the Fiat Coupe, so I totally agree this was the best decade.
I own a 20vt fiat coupe, beautiful amazing car! Mines sprayed lime green, 5 cylinder engine, insane performance and beautiful unique looks
Mine's a broom yellow Plus. Love it to bits.
The whole decade was a great time for cars in South Africa (where I grew up)..
Opel released the Kadett GSi Super Boss, Kadett and Astra 200TS, BMW released the 325is and we got the German Spec E36 M3, Nissan released the Sentra STi and Sabre GXi, Toyota released the Conquest RSi and Corolla RXi...so many great cars that now fetch a heavy price to collectors...
Nothing too exotic, but all working class hero`s...
My two cars are Volvo 940 wagons, a NA for daily work car and an inter-cooled turbo model for my fun weekend car. Not exiting but fun, insanely reliable, all the modern technology and drivability you need with none of the overcomplicated unreliable trendy nonsense of todays cars that you don’t need.
My best friend has a car collection, but his two favorite drivers are a 91 Fleetwood Coupe, and a ‘96 Brougham sedan (the last of the big V8 rear drive Cadillacs). Same plus points as my 90s Volvos.
I had a couple of Boxsters for years, brilliant cars…I could go on, but the short version of this statement is: I have to agree with you! 😉
I have such a soft spot for anything 90s but especially cars
The 90’s, when (not only) cars peaked in character. And quite a lot were nicely built. That’s why I just added a Celica T20 1.8 to my cars, with very low mileage and only two previous owners since ‘94. It was my first car, and looking back, one of the better ones to drive with pleasure. Unique looks, a cabin with a nice ‘sculpted’ dash, such a nice sporty coupé. Yes, it could do with more power, but the driving feel, stability, and build quality of that car were great. Drove it everywhere for 6 years and it never gave me any issues.
After that I bought a Corrado VR6: designed in the 80’s, but until ‘95 on the market with some updates. It was by far not as reliable as the Celica. It felt a bit more ‘bulky’ to drive too. But ooooh, that sound. And the looks, yes a bit boxy 80’s, but man… That front meant business. I had a fully original one, with the low lip at the front, and regret selling it - although it costed me an arm and a leg to keep it running healthy. Quite some returning ignition-related problems. But it had so much character, I just kept fixing it. Looking at the latest Scirocco, yeah well, I just look... Because for me, the Corrado still trumps that solely with it’s ‘aura’ of character.
My favorite decade in 1996 with the introduction of fuel injection, OBD II, and ABS brakes . Early versions of traction control but only the BMW traction control actually "worked" in their vehicles to 2006. 1996- 2006 = Best Tech., Best Built, and Best Looking offerings from all car manufacturers. We the public were FINALLY getting tech in our cars that made them run better, safer in a crash, easier to diagnose any problems, and even more importantly thanks to competition HONESTY from (most anyway) car manufacturers and what you were being sold. I know I know. The Words Car Salesman and Honesty are never seen in the same sentence. But consumers were getting "alot" of car at a very good price. Cars had "Value" and lasted many miles.
For outright design and variations of models, the 70's. No one copied anyone, the Manufacturers were good at just being themselves and you got great surprises. 80's started going to samey samey.
70’s/80’s for me although I stradled both, but just based on nostalgia I guess. You make a good point about the decade you grew up in.
I’m probably out on my decades but some of my faves:
Rover SD1, XR3i, Audi Quattro, Montego Turbo, Renault 5 Turbo, Golf GTI…to name a few👍
Completely agree. Corrosion was no longer a major concern, engine reliability was at an all time high. Plus goodies like Air Con started to become standard on mid to upper range cars.