When the Color Purple came out in 1985, the Black power movement was on the wane and second-wave feminism reared its ugly head. I was in my early 20's but a product of the early activism of Black awakening. Black male conscientious and activism was at its height. My behavior was conditioned by the many powerful Black male leaders and role models at that time. In addition, I grew up in a middle- and upper-middle class professional Black neighborhood of educators in Dallas, so reading and education was fundamental to progress. So when the Color Purple came out in 1985, written by Alice Walker, and Oprah Winfrey starred in it, I felt the rise of the Matriarch and foresaw the demise of the Blk family. To this day, I have never seen the Color Purple except for a few minutes to get the gist of the movie. The Color Purple stands as a funeral headstone for Blk families. As a baby boomer, I watched the conception and inception of modern Blk feminism. I saw the demise of traditions, taboos, rules, regulations and structure which are necessary for peace and prosperity. I saw the demise of the Blk family.
Doesn't help Reagan implemented No-Fault divorce at around the same time. Also get this: "The first modern no-fault divorce law was enacted in Russia in December 1917 following the October Revolution of the same year. Regarding marriage as a bourgeois institution, the new government transferred divorce jurisdiction from the Russian Orthodox Church to the state courts, which could grant it on application of either spouse."
@@ShockgueyActually, California was the first state to pass a No Fault Divorce law in 1969, but you're right Reagan was governor and signed it into law, which was the third attack on the nuclear family, the first two being the 19th amendment and feminism.
So let me get this straight. Women having financial independence from men and not being forced to marry a man that does not love them and they don't love was the demise of the nuclear family. Because women can now choose a better partner choose, choose if and when she wants to have children it's bad. Women choice bad, men choice good.
The new one has a line that "children ain't safe in a family of men" we weren't safe with a family of women either. Told that to a girl I'm dating she was speechless.
That line was in the original. Sophia told it to Celi after she confronted Celi about her telling Harpo to hit her. You're right if a kid grows up in an abusive home, and mom stays that's not a safe place for a kid. Education and having a job allows you economic freedom not to be in an abusive relationship.
@@magoo9279still this misguided assumption that fems are not abusive. Hard to say that when you look at who is actually abusing the children (mommy is).
The Color Purple was one of those movie in my childhood that made me realize there were 2 black Americas. The matriarchy vs. The patriarchy. The matriarchy represented the smart mouthed and sassy, while the patriarchy represented the hard working and no nonsense.
In reality, the intimate exploitation of young Black women was mostly the purview of older white men who employed them as maids, cooks, etc. This was an extremely common thing. Very few historical movies deal with this reality.
Didn't often result in a baby, but those men abused those women regularly and had their sons abuse them too. And those women went home and smiled with their husbands and kept that secret because they felt if they told they would lose their job, or be seen a certain way, or their husband might lose his life trying to avenge her. There is a line in I think it's a James Baldwin essay where he quotes a white man saying that his son won't be a man until he "splits a black oak.". The truth has always been right in front of us all along but we have refused to see it because it is so painful.... But we can't ignore it anymore. If we want to save ourselves, we have to admit the truth of what we experienced and what we became because of it... Kings and Queens ain't it!
@@user-gc9gk6or4l so true. Whites always use blacks as the face of dysfunction, while they are by far the global leaders in dysfunction... Ishmael Reed has written quite extensively on this and he has been derided for it. Unfortunately, a lot of women, including Black women, have accepted the lies about Black men unquestioningly... We can only build with those who choose to build with us.
When The Color Purple came out in the 80’s my mother refused to watch it and my father talked so bad about it. They were both against any movie that made black people look bad. I remember the people boycotting it. I also remember all the little girls and women praying it in school and around the neighborhood. I didn't watch the movie until i was a grown man and i realized it was a horrible movie. Not that it was bad acting, because it was great or writing was bad, because it was good was it even looked great. However it was pure propaganda that has set us back 50 years. The anti black misandry in the film was over done. As always brother great breakdown
@@laymansjournalBlack men don't like to take accountability. Where does this movie say it hates black men??? If you're not like this then it isn't about you. However, if you're offended, you need to grow up or YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
I have seen the original, the remake and read the book in high school. What does being a pedophile have to do with race? It depend if you are going in looking for something negative you can find.
Hopefully those women will only have homes filled with cats to go to after they see that trash. Maybe they can tell Mr. Fluffy how great a film it was.
@@riboflavinfolate3964 You cannot control what others think. Let’s not act like society was sunshine and rainbows in the Segregated South. Being a pedophile, committing incest and domestic violence has nothing to do with your race. I do not think any man that has a child would condone marrying off your minor child for a car and cigarettes or commit incest. Maybe some people need to go have that conversation with their grandparents who grew up in the Segregated South and had to deal with racism and society
@@riboflavinfolate3964Do you really think the cat thing is an own. The fact that a women would choose a cat over a man company says more about you guys than the women. She would rather be alone than have a man in her life. That's a reflection on you guys not them.
@@magoo9279 Yes, it's an "own". The "cat lady" is a woman who is either rejected by males for any number of reasons, or who has unrealistic expectations of what a man "should be" and as a result she never finds her "prince charming".
Thank you for mentioning Brewster Place. It was a revelation of Oprah's Misandry towards black men. I remember it came out around the same time that she was starting to get called out for her male bashing. That TV miniseries cartoonishly vilified black men, much worse than the Color Purple.
Another lie: When we first meet Mr, he was probably nearly 30. He owned a nice home with acres of land. But during this time, the vast majority of black men were sharecroppers and didn't own land, yet alone a home.
You're right. It's hard to imagine someone black living high on the hog, so to speak, back then in plain sight. Any attempt would result in the loss of some Negro's balls and perhaps more than one. I thought the film was a fanciful fantasy. Even though I was smitten by the beauty of the film's imagery, Danny Glover, I could never imagine being a demon. Everyone knows the guy is a pussy cat. How dare they put him up in this role!!! It was, in fact, a cartoon when you think about it. I'm sure Glover, in reflection, must ask himself. "What was I thinking?" Was I a simp back in the day?
Omg... I did not know Kathleen Kennedy was behind this movie. That is so crazy. This video has been very informational. Thank you for you time and hard work.
I spent time at UCSC, where bell hooks taught. I'm giving your video a thumbs up, believing that more should be said about how feminism is adversely impacting black Americans more than any group, to my understanding. I grew up in the "deep" south.
Black men was not even acting like the movie said we acted like back then. I have older parents.And my father mother was born in the early 20th century. My mother father mother was born in the early 1894. I knew her for the first 12 years of my life. I remember all of her first cousins and brothers and sisters.When she died she was in sound mind and still could walk up until that last year before she passed away.Not once did i ever hear her talk about things like this going on in her childhood. She use to talk about her childhood alot when i was around her. So i knew that this movie was bs.I never heard none of my older family members at that time agree with this piece of*** movie being accurate . Even though i was a young child i do remember anyone liking this movie.
Thank you for making this video, Bro. I was just speaking all of this to a good friend of mine. She knew nothing about the history of “The Color Purple“, and I had to break it down for her… and she was absolutely flabbergasted about it all.
4:19 That is because of the paranoia stronghold that is over the black community when they think, *"It aint happening to me or nobody. I know, but I know it's happening to somebody! Time to panic!"* The whole story of the color purple was jacked up. It wasn't my favorite movie ever and it wasn't my least favorite either. I went on to Realize that this was a Work of fiction. I went on to Jess. Watch it because my sister's and my mom was watching it. And I had no control over the T.V. Somehow as a kid I wasn't indoctrinated to think all men were bad, just this movie storyline. 😂😂 Ps. My mom used to out and out. Say that Danny Glover was a son of a gun in this movie. But he was freaking good in the Lethal Weapon movies, which she was a mega fan of LOL. 😂 Great video essay as usual! ❤ PPS. Atlas walker's mind is straight up demented for coming up with this mess!
All men are not bad but most men don't hold other men accountable. Women are tired of the phrase #not all men. Even my grandfather didn't trust men around his daughters and grand daughters.
Crazy thing is, I never heard one woman in my family say anything about this movie until a few years ago, I was talking to my baby sister and she was surprised I never saw the movie but she said the same thing, it was a good movie and I should watch it for some reason. Idk where the hell she would even watch it cause we never had it in our house and my mom doesn't even watch movies like that
I am torn on this one because I see both sides of the argument. Not all black men are monsters. But some do monstrously bad things. I grew up in a mostly male, Muslim/Black home; I don't even have any sisters. And although most of the men in my family meant well, I didn't like how I or any of the women in my family were treated. Like I said earlier, I know they were not trying to be hurtful but ultimately they took all of their frustrations out on us. Probably because of their lack of anger management, emotional regulation, and poor coping skills. I connected to the color purple because it was the first time I felt that someone understood what I felt inside but couldn't show it. I know it wasn't like this for everyone but most black girls I knew growing up felt the same way. And as for the "lack of law enforcement authority," it doesn't matter because you never called the police. Everything was always handled by the family. It was a weird dynamic because I felt protected yet caged. Something I don't really wish on anyone.
@trey9775 OK, one thing I do know is that I don't see myself in the birth of a nation LOL I can't speak for everyone, but there were similarities between my childhood and that film. Thankfully not complete recreations but parallels. The book and movie resonated with a lot of women, and it wasn't just misandry.
@@jvloveskshow me the yt/arab/Chinese version of Color Purple, where those things are documented reality, rather than the ninja hate fantasy Alice Walker wrote. Or better, where the yt man abused and violated his BW maids and cooks, because that did happen (thats why you are 20% or more European). This movie became the excuse to realize the latent BM hatred *everyone* has, so of course you see something you can identify with.
@@jvlovesk can I ask what’s your background? Are you black American because by your name and phenotype you look Afro Latina. Are you a black immigrant? If so where is the empirical research to show black men mistreated black women post civil war. I’m not interested in an anecdotal story. I’m not interested in narratives or anecdotal story time .
4:30 This film, speaking of the virtues of its technical attributes... could be compared to The Birth of a Nation, "like writing history with lightning," or something, to quote President Woodrow Wilson of Princeton. Good thing he didn't live too long.
I saw the old and the new. I remembered parts of the old as i was watching. The one scene that was really crazy in the new was when Harpos wife who was now with the boxer got into it with the white folks and he just sat in the car. I couldn't tell if he supposedly stayed and watched or drove off while she was getting her butt kicked. Its no justification but i only went because i was taking my teenage son and his friends to the mall so they could hang out and i figured what the hek😅
I would love to see a prequel centering on the experiences of the men in TCP where we get to see the behaviors of these women interpreted from the male perspective. The men in all of Alice Walker's novels are either shadows or demons. They deserve to at least be treated like human beings.
I'm a middle-aged white woman, which I guess matters in terms of perspective about "The Color Purple." I grew up watching it as an all-time favorite film, first time at age 7 or so, with no thoughts of its author, feminism, politics, black men, men in general, or even race. I saw it purely as Celie's story, her terrible situation, survival, and ultimate triumph, with the message being that one can overcome decades of abuse after finding their strength and live victoriously, rather than as a victim. I didn't care what Alice Walker thinks and still don't. I don't hate men and am happily married. If it's considered propaganda, I'd sooner fault Walker than her story, which I still love, and apply it to what I personally went through in my own childhood. I'll always relate to Celie as a fellow human being deserving of love and respect.
If this was a true story and you can relate to Ceilie, that’s understandable. But this was pure propaganda and a manufactured hate for black men. What if this was a movie about a white woman, feeling undesired by her husband, suddenly make up a story about a 13 year old boy, cat calling her inside a store or a white woman accusing a black man of rape because she was cheating on her husband with a white guy and had become pregnant and was scared to tell her husband the truth and needed a lie to get an abortion. The black kid and the black man was hunted down and lynched. Black men became enraged and just hate all white women. The point I’m trying to make is that while I presented two stories that actually happened, the Color Purple movie made up and even though BW knew this, they went out of their way to make it seem that BM are oppressing them.
@@Dawgz1 You’re saying these movies, directed by men, having multiple men involved in making the movie, wanted to make a movie to convince you to hate men? How does that work? How does it help Spielberg or the guy directing this new movie to convince people to hate men? Is it possible that a movie can have a male villain without being propaganda telling people (you should hate men because this fictional character is a bad man and that means we think all men everywhere are bad?)
@@roscowbrown3937 - Uhh, the movie is based off the book written by black feminist Alice Walker. The movie was filled with stereotypes about black men being sexual deviants, beating their women, incest and abandoning their families. One of the main characters in the movie Oprah Winfrey whose a big supporter of the movie and the remake has used her platform and allowed her platform for black women to tell all the listening audience for well over 40 plus years that "black men ain't sh*t, black men abandon their families, black men are violent and beat their women, black men will make you a single mother, ect..ect" Racist often took these same stereotypes they got from black women and used them to scare white people against black men, putting targets on black men's backs. You said, "directed by men, having multiple men involved in making the movie". The movie was directed by a white guy, so it doesn't depict him in a negative way plus he's in it to make some money. The black men actors, also in it to make some money. It's not to convince you to hate men, but rather further a negative stereotype about black men. If you can't understand that then I can't help you with that. For decades, black men have never had a platform to speak up and dispel or even debate these stereotypes, narratives or slander against them. The stereotypes are still falling from black women's lips even after they have been debunked and proven with stats and facts. 60% of black women have multiple different men as fathers for their kids. 7 out of 10 black kids are born out of wedlock to single black women. 51% of black men are single and have never fathered children. 64% of black men are in the middle class. 33% of black men are married. So the majority of black women are getting knocked up by 16 - 20% of the same men that have multiple mother's for their kids. Black women file for divorce at 85% and 1 in 4 are married. So who's abandoning their kids or breaking their families. Feminism and welfare has broke the black families and the same women that complains about black men are the same one's who raised them. I said all that to say that black men have had to fight these stereotypes that have damaged their image. The movie or the book is not about hating men but rather reinforcing made up stereotypes about black men.
My prediction of the movie was they were going to give Cealy superpowers. Like when she put the curse on Mr.Albert he burst into flames or some dumbsh*t.
I watched it yesterday & had 1 major problem with.....It took it from Mr. being evil by ripping Celie & Nettie apart to literally being the devil by attempting to grape his 13 year old sister-in-law in her sleep & then shoot atvher after throwing her out in the midst of a rain storm.
I find it amazing that the writing of Alice Walker is still celebrated. The brilliant essayist Stanley Crouch called out both Walker and Oprah for their openly aligning their Black Misandrist Movement with the Feminists and LBGT. He predicted in the 80s that they both would back the bus back over Black Men along with Black women and The God Designed Family Structure . When this failure of Black Feminis/ 🌈 in Cinema continues to fall deeper and deeper into the abyss of box office failure , you will see more Free Thinking Straight Black Men creators taking their talents to The Internet. Just like Brothers damn near broke the record industry in the 90s selling their Music CDs out their car trunks. I hope this time they leverage their money and power and don’t fall the banana in the tailpipe. Michael B. Jordan moving like Denzel. May Allah protect him for he truly is walking in the Valley between Sodom and Gomorrah. .
I was a young boy when the first movie dropped. Raised in a family of single black women. This movie was celebrated in my house, and I liked it as a kid. I noticed all the men in the movie were villains, but I wasn’t mature enough to understand the agenda. As an adult black man, I came to despise this film. I’m glad I found a video expressing the same reasons why I find this movie despicable.
Will we ever get tired of being manipulated (particularly our women) by this devil and his minions? We're supposed to be great and righteous and yet here we are still trying to figure it out. C'mon people! ✊🏿
This is what happens when people can’t separate reality from art. The color purple is a singular narrative; it’s celies story. And maybe it does represent the experiences and stories of some black women but anyone that would use it to justify misandry is just as dense as those who refuse to watch the film simply for how it portrays the men in celies life. As humans we are all flawed individuals; black men are not exempt from that fact and black women should not, and as we can visibly see, will not romanticize their experiences with black men simply bc black men have experienced racism at the hands of white men. Two things can be true at once: black men can simultaneously be victims of racism while also being the perpetuators of misogyny towards black women. It happens, unfortunately it’s life, and as long as it is happening stories like these will be created
The Color Purple 💜 is Truth ✔️ Women in my Family 🌹 has been through some of these things. Even worse and you shouldn't try to dismiss the Truth ✔️. Just because your individual family didn't go through it. Doesn't mean it doesn't matter or exists. At which I believe you're lying or don't know what Women 🌹 go through or have been through.
When you say, "Women in my family have been through some of these things," Firstly, what *specifically* happened to them and what caused it. Secondly, did you witness what you're alleging first-hand or were you just told stories from the female side of your family? The devil is in the details, so please give us the details ma'am. Thanks
I’m just discovering your channel. I rather use a power drill for both eyes before I rewatch the original The Color Purple again. I let out a really loud groan when I saw the poster for the remake and threw popcorn at the AMC screen during the preview. Ugh.
I watched the Tina Turner musical/ play. It was the same crap. It overly focused on Ike Turner. To the point to where they had the guy playing Ike, dragging Tina Turner arcoss the stage. I was really young when the original Color Purple came out. I do seem to remember people protesting and hating the film. I tried to watch as an adult. But couldn't finish it.
Damn, I also was raised to believe this was a good movie/book by the women in my family. I've grown to really dislike it and similar media like Waiting to Exhale and most Tyler Perry works that often depict black men (especially dark skinned black men) as evil (while light-skinned black men are usually good). Hollywood loves promoting black men as savages and awful to black women in order to drive a wedge between us. Now they portray black men as cheaters, effeminate/LGBT or interested only in non-black women.
So you are claiming there isn't man eating sharks on the shores of beaches? That is a ludicrous statement. Go near a Bull, Tiger, or Great White Shark when they are hungry and try and test that theory. Not to mention all the other breeds of sharks that attack humans like the Bronze Whaler, Hammerhead, Oceanic White Tip, Mako, and others I can't think of off the top of my head. The main thing Jaws got really wrong (other than the sharks demensions) was the theory of a lone rogue shark. A shark (as far as we know) does not develop a taste for humans, it simply sees something that looks like food/prey. If you are an 17 foot Great White Shark and then see a 5ft tall swimmer, then they look like an easy meal. Sometimes just the bite alone (and then when they spit you out) from a shark of that size is a one way ticket to the grave!
I don't think calling The Color Purple anti-Black man is accurate. The thing film shows how broken people hurt and break the younger generation of their community. Sometimes, we gotta get our heads above the water of complaining.
I could say that about the Matrix too until you get a literal 1:1 recreation of Native Son (1940) in the prequels. The creators had a dynamic to sell and were very creative in weaving it in. Same goes for the author of Color Purple.
3:53 He's not on my list has one of the greatest Directors only in popularity back then Ridley Scott,Spike Lee David Fincher Are some of my top film makers still working
When the Color Purple came out in 1985, the Black power movement was on the wane and second-wave feminism reared its ugly head. I was in my early 20's but a product of the early activism of Black awakening. Black male conscientious and activism was at its height. My behavior was conditioned by the many powerful Black male leaders and role models at that time. In addition, I grew up in a middle- and upper-middle class professional Black neighborhood of educators in Dallas, so reading and education was fundamental to progress.
So when the Color Purple came out in 1985, written by Alice Walker, and Oprah Winfrey starred in it, I felt the rise of the Matriarch and foresaw the demise of the Blk family. To this day, I have never seen the Color Purple except for a few minutes to get the gist of the movie.
The Color Purple stands as a funeral headstone for Blk families. As a baby boomer, I watched the conception and inception of modern Blk feminism. I saw the demise of traditions, taboos, rules, regulations and structure which are necessary for peace and prosperity. I saw the demise of the Blk family.
Doesn't help Reagan implemented No-Fault divorce at around the same time.
Also get this: "The first modern no-fault divorce law was enacted in Russia in December 1917 following the October Revolution of the same year. Regarding marriage as a bourgeois institution, the new government transferred divorce jurisdiction from the Russian Orthodox Church to the state courts, which could grant it on application of either spouse."
Interesting, thanks for the info.
@@ShockgueyActually, California was the first state to pass a No Fault Divorce law in 1969, but you're right Reagan was governor and signed it into law, which was the third attack on the nuclear family, the first two being the 19th amendment and feminism.
All propagated by J's.
So let me get this straight. Women having financial independence from men and not being forced to marry a man that does not love them and they don't love was the demise of the nuclear family. Because women can now choose a better partner choose, choose if and when she wants to have children it's bad. Women choice bad, men choice good.
The new one has a line that "children ain't safe in a family of men" we weren't safe with a family of women either. Told that to a girl I'm dating she was speechless.
That’s a real line in it?
That line was in the original. Sophia told it to Celi after she confronted Celi about her telling Harpo to hit her. You're right if a kid grows up in an abusive home, and mom stays that's not a safe place for a kid. Education and having a job allows you economic freedom not to be in an abusive relationship.
@@magoo9279still this misguided assumption that fems are not abusive. Hard to say that when you look at who is actually abusing the children (mommy is).
Man you ain't lyin
@gabrielmeth4844 You're right. moms are abusive also. So that debunks the myth that moms are better caregivers.
The Color Purple was one of those movie in my childhood that made me realize there were 2 black Americas. The matriarchy vs. The patriarchy. The matriarchy represented the smart mouthed and sassy, while the patriarchy represented the hard working and no nonsense.
The black Matriarchy back by the white liberal and the Jews.
The black Patriarchy villainized by everyone, and backed by no one.
This "film" could be 31 different flavors of extraordinary. Ill never know for myself. Your sacrifice is appreciated ✊🏾
In reality, the intimate exploitation of young Black women was mostly the purview of older white men who employed them as maids, cooks, etc. This was an extremely common thing. Very few historical movies deal with this reality.
"How'd you get that mixed baby?"
Didn't often result in a baby, but those men abused those women regularly and had their sons abuse them too. And those women went home and smiled with their husbands and kept that secret because they felt if they told they would lose their job, or be seen a certain way, or their husband might lose his life trying to avenge her. There is a line in I think it's a James Baldwin essay where he quotes a white man saying that his son won't be a man until he "splits a black oak.".
The truth has always been right in front of us all along but we have refused to see it because it is so painful.... But we can't ignore it anymore. If we want to save ourselves, we have to admit the truth of what we experienced and what we became because of it... Kings and Queens ain't it!
@@user-gc9gk6or4l so true. Whites always use blacks as the face of dysfunction, while they are by far the global leaders in dysfunction... Ishmael Reed has written quite extensively on this and he has been derided for it. Unfortunately, a lot of women, including Black women, have accepted the lies about Black men unquestioningly... We can only build with those who choose to build with us.
And yet they still praise them to this day
The Color Purple is one of those films that everyone I know has seen but me. Never been interested.
I've seen bits and pieces of the original but never enough to really understand the story. Lucky me.
Same here. Never looked like anything I would be interested in.
This is the closest ill get to Watching The Color Purple. Lol
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"ROOTS" is another example. What's killing is the fact my grandparents warned me of this type of propaganda.
When The Color Purple came out in the 80’s my mother refused to watch it and my father talked so bad about it. They were both against any movie that made black people look bad. I remember the people boycotting it. I also remember all the little girls and women praying it in school and around the neighborhood. I didn't watch the movie until i was a grown man and i realized it was a horrible movie. Not that it was bad acting, because it was great or writing was bad, because it was good was it even looked great. However it was pure propaganda that has set us back 50 years. The anti black misandry in the film was over done. As always brother great breakdown
Thank You
It definitely did
now people embrace being victims. such a sad state we're all in now
@@laymansjournalBlack men don't like to take accountability. Where does this movie say it hates black men??? If you're not like this then it isn't about you. However, if you're offended, you need to grow up or YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
If you beat me up and humiliate me, I think I can assume you HATE ME...Wake up FOOL !!!
Thank you, LJ for your efforts in 2023. This is one of my favorite channels. It is always edifying.
Your welcome sir!
Thank you for you service brother. All the women in my life are going to see this and don’t give two shits the men find it offensive. It’s sad
I have seen the original, the remake and read the book in high school. What does being a pedophile have to do with race? It depend if you are going in looking for something negative you can find.
Hopefully those women will only have homes filled with cats to go to after they see that trash. Maybe they can tell Mr. Fluffy how great a film it was.
@@riboflavinfolate3964 You cannot control what others think. Let’s not act like society was sunshine and rainbows in the Segregated South. Being a pedophile, committing incest and domestic violence has nothing to do with your race. I do not think any man that has a child would condone marrying off your minor child for a car and cigarettes or commit incest. Maybe some people need to go have that conversation with their grandparents who grew up in the Segregated South and had to deal with racism and society
@@riboflavinfolate3964Do you really think the cat thing is an own. The fact that a women would choose a cat over a man company says more about you guys than the women. She would rather be alone than have a man in her life. That's a reflection on you guys not them.
@@magoo9279 Yes, it's an "own". The "cat lady" is a woman who is either rejected by males for any number of reasons, or who has unrealistic expectations of what a man "should be" and as a result she never finds her "prince charming".
The Color Purple and The Women of Brewster Place did more to destroy a generation of black women than a thousand Cardi B's and Sexy Red's etc.
Ugh the women of Brewster’s place
LIAR.
Thank you for mentioning Brewster Place. It was a revelation of Oprah's Misandry towards black men. I remember it came out around the same time that she was starting to get called out for her male bashing. That TV miniseries cartoonishly vilified black men, much worse than the Color Purple.
I wish I could like this comment a thousand times.
I never heard of anyone thinking this story was true, i now consider myself better informed.
Many women consider this movie as fact of the how black people lived in the south at the time.
All they did with this new version of The Color Purple was turning a Black trauma movie into a musical smh
I refuse to watch the original …you couldnt pay me to watch this new version
Layman is like you don't have to step in sh*t twice to know it stinks💩🤢🤮
Lol, tell that to Jonathan Majors.
Another lie: When we first meet Mr, he was probably nearly 30. He owned a nice home with acres of land. But during this time, the vast majority of black men were sharecroppers and didn't own land, yet alone a home.
You're right. It's hard to imagine someone black living high on the hog, so to speak, back then in plain sight. Any attempt would result in the loss of some Negro's balls and perhaps more than one. I thought the film was a fanciful fantasy.
Even though I was smitten by the beauty of the film's imagery, Danny Glover, I could never imagine being a demon. Everyone knows the guy is a pussy cat. How dare they put him up in this role!!! It was, in fact, a cartoon when you think about it. I'm sure Glover, in reflection, must ask himself. "What was I thinking?" Was I a simp back in the day?
Still don't lol.
Happy New Year! Keep up the good work
Thank You Sir!
Omg... I did not know Kathleen Kennedy was behind this movie. That is so crazy. This video has been very informational. Thank you for you time and hard work.
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I spent time at UCSC, where bell hooks taught. I'm giving your video a thumbs up, believing that more should be said about how feminism is adversely impacting black Americans more than any group, to my understanding. I grew up in the "deep" south.
Bell Hooks... That's another evil one.
Excellent presentation and explanation of Black reality. I've subscribed.
Welcome aboard!
Black men was not even acting like the movie said we acted like back then. I have older parents.And my father mother was born in the early 20th century. My mother father mother was born in the early 1894. I knew her for the first 12 years of my life. I remember all of her first cousins and brothers and sisters.When she died she was in sound mind and still could walk up until that last year before she passed away.Not once did i ever hear her talk about things like this going on in her childhood. She use to talk about her childhood alot when i was around her. So i knew that this movie was bs.I never heard none of my older family members at that time agree with this piece of*** movie being accurate . Even though i was a young child i do remember anyone liking this movie.
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Thank you for making this video, Bro. I was just speaking all of this to a good friend of mine. She knew nothing about the history of “The Color Purple“, and I had to break it down for her… and she was absolutely flabbergasted about it all.
Bdubs will defend this movie like the previous generation did 😂😂
4:19 That is because of the paranoia stronghold that is over the black community when they think, *"It aint happening to me or nobody. I know, but I know it's happening to somebody! Time to panic!"*
The whole story of the color purple was jacked up. It wasn't my favorite movie ever and it wasn't my least favorite either. I went on to Realize that this was a Work of fiction. I went on to Jess. Watch it because my sister's and my mom was watching it. And I had no control over the T.V. Somehow as a kid I wasn't indoctrinated to think all men were bad, just this movie storyline. 😂😂 Ps. My mom used to out and out. Say that Danny Glover was a son of a gun in this movie. But he was freaking good in the Lethal Weapon movies, which she was a mega fan of LOL. 😂 Great video essay as usual! ❤ PPS. Atlas walker's mind is straight up demented for coming up with this mess!
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Thank God for the"Lethal Weapon" movie's or Danny might still have a price on his head for that "Mister" character...
All men are not bad but most men don't hold other men accountable. Women are tired of the phrase #not all men. Even my grandfather didn't trust men around his daughters and grand daughters.
Thank you. I enjoyed that far more than if I had gone to see the movie😊 (Love you more)
Nothing beats The Boondocks version of the color purple
Alice Walker went from White man to Tracy Chapman. She is what she is.
Still didn’t care for the message but I agree the movie was well done Fantasia carried the film and singing was on point
Oh yeah, it's the best propaganda I've ever seen.
Crazy thing is, I never heard one woman in my family say anything about this movie until a few years ago, I was talking to my baby sister and she was surprised I never saw the movie but she said the same thing, it was a good movie and I should watch it for some reason. Idk where the hell she would even watch it cause we never had it in our house and my mom doesn't even watch movies like that
I never saw the first and will NEVER see this one.
Me: not wanting to see it, but Wifey does "SO I GUESS I DO, TOO"
I am torn on this one because I see both sides of the argument. Not all black men are monsters. But some do monstrously bad things. I grew up in a mostly male, Muslim/Black home; I don't even have any sisters. And although most of the men in my family meant well, I didn't like how I or any of the women in my family were treated. Like I said earlier, I know they were not trying to be hurtful but ultimately they took all of their frustrations out on us. Probably because of their lack of anger management, emotional regulation, and poor coping skills. I connected to the color purple because it was the first time I felt that someone understood what I felt inside but couldn't show it. I know it wasn't like this for everyone but most black girls I knew growing up felt the same way.
And as for the "lack of law enforcement authority," it doesn't matter because you never called the police. Everything was always handled by the family. It was a weird dynamic because I felt protected yet caged. Something I don't really wish on anyone.
You could make the “some black men are bad” argument for the original Birth of a Nation which caused a resurgence of the KKK.
@trey9775 OK, one thing I do know is that I don't see myself in the birth of a nation LOL I can't speak for everyone, but there were similarities between my childhood and that film. Thankfully not complete recreations but parallels. The book and movie resonated with a lot of women, and it wasn't just misandry.
I know Black woman are Holier than the Virgin Mary..
Wake Up FOOL..!
@@jvloveskshow me the yt/arab/Chinese version of Color Purple, where those things are documented reality, rather than the ninja hate fantasy Alice Walker wrote.
Or better, where the yt man abused and violated his BW maids and cooks, because that did happen (thats why you are 20% or more European).
This movie became the excuse to realize the latent BM hatred *everyone* has, so of course you see something you can identify with.
@@jvlovesk can I ask what’s your background? Are you black American because by your name and phenotype you look Afro Latina. Are you a black immigrant? If so where is the empirical research to show black men mistreated black women post civil war. I’m not interested in an anecdotal story. I’m not interested in narratives or anecdotal story time .
Why the hell would they bring back this Color purple crap, in beyond me.
The play was successful so producers say 🤑
Gotta start the villainization of black American men again; which was the reason for the original.
Unfortunately I saw that horrible garbage once, and it still makes sick thinking about that trash.
Speaking on the 1985 film, there is nothing in it that a decent black man can appreciate.
As a kid i hated the original .. so ill be dam if i wasted my time in this black male hating era to watch a newer version
Wise choice
4:30 This film, speaking of the virtues of its technical attributes... could be compared to The Birth of a Nation, "like writing history with lightning," or something, to quote President Woodrow Wilson of Princeton. Good thing he didn't live too long.
I saw the old and the new. I remembered parts of the old as i was watching. The one scene that was really crazy in the new was when Harpos wife who was now with the boxer got into it with the white folks and he just sat in the car. I couldn't tell if he supposedly stayed and watched or drove off while she was getting her butt kicked. Its no justification but i only went because i was taking my teenage son and his friends to the mall so they could hang out and i figured what the hek😅
I would love to see a prequel centering on the experiences of the men in TCP where we get to see the behaviors of these women interpreted from the male perspective. The men in all of Alice Walker's novels are either shadows or demons. They deserve to at least be treated like human beings.
I seen the 1985 movie too many times before soooo I going to past on the musical.😮😮😮😮
The irritated genie did a great breakdown of the differences between the book and movie.
Tell it!
I agree.
I'm a middle-aged white woman, which I guess matters in terms of perspective about "The Color Purple." I grew up watching it as an all-time favorite film, first time at age 7 or so, with no thoughts of its author, feminism, politics, black men, men in general, or even race. I saw it purely as Celie's story, her terrible situation, survival, and ultimate triumph, with the message being that one can overcome decades of abuse after finding their strength and live victoriously, rather than as a victim. I didn't care what Alice Walker thinks and still don't. I don't hate men and am happily married. If it's considered propaganda, I'd sooner fault Walker than her story, which I still love, and apply it to what I personally went through in my own childhood. I'll always relate to Celie as a fellow human being deserving of love and respect.
If this was a true story and you can relate to Ceilie, that’s understandable. But this was pure propaganda and a manufactured hate for black men. What if this was a movie about a white woman, feeling undesired by her husband, suddenly make up a story about a 13 year old boy, cat calling her inside a store or a white woman accusing a black man of rape because she was cheating on her husband with a white guy and had become pregnant and was scared to tell her husband the truth and needed a lie to get an abortion. The black kid and the black man was hunted down and lynched. Black men became enraged and just hate all white women. The point I’m trying to make is that while I presented two stories that actually happened, the Color Purple movie made up and even though BW knew this, they went out of their way to make it seem that BM are oppressing them.
@@Dawgz1 You’re saying these movies, directed by men, having multiple men involved in making the movie, wanted to make a movie to convince you to hate men? How does that work? How does it help Spielberg or the guy directing this new movie to convince people to hate men? Is it possible that a movie can have a male villain without being propaganda telling people (you should hate men because this fictional character is a bad man and that means we think all men everywhere are bad?)
@@roscowbrown3937 - Uhh, the movie is based off the book written by black feminist Alice Walker. The movie was filled with stereotypes about black men being sexual deviants, beating their women, incest and abandoning their families. One of the main characters in the movie Oprah Winfrey whose a big supporter of the movie and the remake has used her platform and allowed her platform for black women to tell all the listening audience for well over 40 plus years that "black men ain't sh*t, black men abandon their families, black men are violent and beat their women, black men will make you a single mother, ect..ect" Racist often took these same stereotypes they got from black women and used them to scare white people against black men, putting targets on black men's backs. You said, "directed by men, having multiple men involved in making the movie". The movie was directed by a white guy, so it doesn't depict him in a negative way plus he's in it to make some money. The black men actors, also in it to make some money. It's not to convince you to hate men, but rather further a negative stereotype about black men. If you can't understand that then I can't help you with that.
For decades, black men have never had a platform to speak up and dispel or even debate these stereotypes, narratives or slander against them. The stereotypes are still falling from black women's lips even after they have been debunked and proven with stats and facts. 60% of black women have multiple different men as fathers for their kids. 7 out of 10 black kids are born out of wedlock to single black women. 51% of black men are single and have never fathered children. 64% of black men are in the middle class. 33% of black men are married. So the majority of black women are getting knocked up by 16 - 20% of the same men that have multiple mother's for their kids. Black women file for divorce at 85% and 1 in 4 are married. So who's abandoning their kids or breaking their families. Feminism and welfare has broke the black families and the same women that complains about black men are the same one's who raised them. I said all that to say that black men have had to fight these stereotypes that have damaged their image. The movie or the book is not about hating men but rather reinforcing made up stereotypes about black men.
That movie goes through world war 1, and world war 2 and yet everyone carries themselves live antebellum slaves for the duration of the film.
Real funny THIS movie came out after Kevin Samuels passing...RIP❤
The first airing led to the “I don’t need a man” era. What will this one bring?
My prediction of the movie was they were going to give Cealy superpowers. Like when she put the curse on Mr.Albert he burst into flames or some dumbsh*t.
Did you ever think about reviewing Thelma and Louise? Or The Accused?
No, but I am now. 🙂
Are you going to complain about how Thelma and Louis make white men look bad too?@@laymansjournal
Witchcraft just as I told you😢
Sophia was right a man should never raise his hand
I watched it yesterday & had 1 major problem with.....It took it from Mr. being evil by ripping Celie & Nettie apart to literally being the devil by attempting to grape his 13 year old sister-in-law in her sleep & then shoot atvher after throwing her out in the midst of a rain storm.
I find it amazing that the writing of Alice Walker is still celebrated. The brilliant essayist Stanley Crouch called out both Walker and Oprah for their openly aligning their Black Misandrist Movement with the Feminists and LBGT. He predicted in the 80s that they both would back the bus back over Black Men along with Black women and The God Designed Family Structure .
When this failure of Black Feminis/ 🌈 in Cinema continues to fall deeper and deeper into the abyss of box office failure , you will see more Free Thinking Straight Black Men creators taking their talents to The Internet.
Just like Brothers damn near broke the record industry in the 90s selling their Music CDs out their car trunks.
I hope this time they leverage their money and power and don’t fall the banana in the tailpipe. Michael B. Jordan moving like Denzel. May Allah protect him for he truly is walking in the Valley between Sodom and Gomorrah.
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I was a young boy when the first movie dropped. Raised in a family of single black women. This movie was celebrated in my house, and I liked it as a kid. I noticed all the men in the movie were villains, but I wasn’t mature enough to understand the agenda. As an adult black man, I came to despise this film. I’m glad I found a video expressing the same reasons why I find this movie despicable.
My guess is that Cierra was cast because Russell Wilson contributed financially.
Here's a fun fact. Alice walker is married to a white man
Triumph of the will, for blk feminism.
Bruh, I'm going to need you to go more in-depth on your reviews. Long enough to get at least one commercial break in it.
I still don’t care bedub.
Will we ever get tired of being manipulated (particularly our women) by this devil and his minions? We're supposed to be great and righteous and yet here we are still trying to figure it out. C'mon people! ✊🏿
I never liked this movie and I could not figure out why, until I learned more about masculinity
Wow. A film knocking black men instead of white men in general lol. Love your content and looking forward to watching your previous videos,too.
This is what happens when people can’t separate reality from art. The color purple is a singular narrative; it’s celies story. And maybe it does represent the experiences and stories of some black women but anyone that would use it to justify misandry is just as dense as those who refuse to watch the film simply for how it portrays the men in celies life. As humans we are all flawed individuals; black men are not exempt from that fact and black women should not, and as we can visibly see, will not romanticize their experiences with black men simply bc black men have experienced racism at the hands of white men. Two things can be true at once: black men can simultaneously be victims of racism while also being the perpetuators of misogyny towards black women. It happens, unfortunately it’s life, and as long as it is happening stories like these will be created
I’m ok with that lol
The Color Purple 💜 is Truth ✔️
Women in my Family 🌹 has been through some of these things. Even worse and you shouldn't try to dismiss the Truth ✔️. Just because your individual family didn't go through it. Doesn't mean it doesn't matter or exists. At which I believe you're lying or don't know what Women 🌹 go through or have been through.
When you say, "Women in my family have been through some of these things," Firstly, what *specifically* happened to them and what caused it. Secondly, did you witness what you're alleging first-hand or were you just told stories from the female side of your family?
The devil is in the details, so please give us the details ma'am. Thanks
I’m just discovering your channel.
I rather use a power drill for both eyes before I rewatch the original The Color Purple again. I let out a really loud groan when I saw the poster for the remake and threw popcorn at the AMC screen during the preview. Ugh.
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Funny how this "remake" is coming out before an election year 🤔
Didn’t like it or appreciate its content.
Also Steven Spielberg and George Lucas mentored Kathleen Kennedy. They NEVER liked her lol
I watched the Tina Turner musical/ play. It was the same crap. It overly focused on Ike Turner. To the point to where they had the guy playing Ike, dragging Tina Turner arcoss the stage. I was really young when the original Color Purple came out. I do seem to remember people protesting and hating the film. I tried to watch as an adult. But couldn't finish it.
So, black women can't tell their own stories about abuse anymore. We have to pander to the black men.
Damn, I also was raised to believe this was a good movie/book by the women in my family. I've grown to really dislike it and similar media like Waiting to Exhale and most Tyler Perry works that often depict black men (especially dark skinned black men) as evil (while light-skinned black men are usually good).
Hollywood loves promoting black men as savages and awful to black women in order to drive a wedge between us. Now they portray black men as cheaters, effeminate/LGBT or interested only in non-black women.
If you don't want movies about black men being abusive then black men need to stop abusing.
I never liked the older the movie and I don’t plan to watch the new one
I guess woke films can be entertaining if DONE WELL. It’s not WHAT you say, it’s HOW you say it 😊
I blame feminism!!!! B1 and shalom....
I 2nd the idea: you don't have to step in shit twice to know it stinks. Not watching that crap.
It's just a movie its not based on a true story why are you upset over something that never happened
Yeah, if you don't like this film then try 2 hours of listening to Princella spew her pseudoscientific misandrist bs 😂😂😂 That's quite the treat
Shi is evil and on purpose
The color purple was a terrible movie. I watched it one time in 1987 and I have never watched it again.
I totally hated this movie.
I will boycot this movie and those involed in it. Enough of the bullshit.
Your reasoning is illogical.
So you are claiming there isn't man eating sharks on the shores of beaches? That is a ludicrous statement. Go near a Bull, Tiger, or Great White Shark when they are hungry and try and test that theory.
Not to mention all the other breeds of sharks that attack humans like the Bronze Whaler, Hammerhead, Oceanic White Tip, Mako, and others I can't think of off the top of my head. The main thing Jaws got really wrong (other than the sharks demensions) was the theory of a lone rogue shark. A shark (as far as we know) does not develop a taste for humans, it simply sees something that looks like food/prey. If you are an 17 foot Great White Shark and then see a 5ft tall swimmer, then they look like an easy meal. Sometimes just the bite alone (and then when they spit you out) from a shark of that size is a one way ticket to the grave!
I don't think calling The Color Purple anti-Black man is accurate. The thing film shows how broken people hurt and break the younger generation of their community. Sometimes, we gotta get our heads above the water of complaining.
I could say that about the Matrix too until you get a literal 1:1 recreation of Native Son (1940) in the prequels.
The creators had a dynamic to sell and were very creative in weaving it in.
Same goes for the author of Color Purple.
I loved the original version. Saw the laatest iteration and my gosh, I hate musical. Just tell the damn story.
3:53 He's not on my list has one of the greatest Directors only in popularity back then Ridley Scott,Spike Lee David Fincher Are some of my top film makers still working
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