OLD HOLLYWOOD SCANDALS - Roger Troutman!😯😯😯

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  • @AshleySaysSo20
    @AshleySaysSo20  3 роки тому +153

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    ALSO I KNOW ZAPP HAD OTHER HOT RECORDS BUT AS I ALWAYS SAY THIS IS NOT A DISCOGRAPHY CHANNEL!

    • @corinicole9271
      @corinicole9271 3 роки тому +5

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    • @carolyndye2615
      @carolyndye2615 3 роки тому +10

      You did it again Ashley I learned alot and I'm from Ohio and didn't know this scandal Chile!!!

    • @deloresremy2929
      @deloresremy2929 3 роки тому +6

      Hey Ashley saysSo! 💕 Love your content 💞. God bless you!!!

    • @deloresremy2929
      @deloresremy2929 3 роки тому +4

      @@corinicole9271 I 💕 love those too

    • @nettnettwarren1432
      @nettnettwarren1432 3 роки тому +8

      Be sure to check out my book coming soon to Amazon. Girl in the Band: 1st Lady of ZAPP 🥰

  • @nreynolds75243
    @nreynolds75243 3 роки тому +371

    Moral of the story: NEVER do business with family or friends. It rarely goes well.

    • @bernicesmith4248
      @bernicesmith4248 3 роки тому +59

      Nope the real moral is,separate business from personal and family life. Business is business, family is family, and fun is fun, you just can't do them all at once, that's what never works.

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 3 роки тому +6

      @@bernicesmith4248 ^ This.

    • @eigna8914
      @eigna8914 2 роки тому +11

      I dont think thats it. The moral of the story os stick together no matter what. Learn about making and leaving legacies for your own family!

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 2 роки тому +5

      @@eigna8914 No, OP is right.

    • @quintonfauntleroy
      @quintonfauntleroy 2 роки тому +2

      I can understand where a lot of this went wrong or how it can go wrong. I am very involved with my family and would really hate to think that we would do anything like that to each other. Hearing stories like these and also adding other aspects into the equation such as the industry, egos and other factors can make a person lose one’s self if they allow it. In this case, however it has gone, I wouldn’t say that you should not ever do business with family because as we all know families come in many different forms and shapes; you just can’t always trust everyone. I would like to personally think that I wouldn’t let a dollar change me and turn me against my family, if that were the case in this story and so many others that I’ve heard. So I don’t think it’s so much don’t do business with family, I think it’s more so of just making sure that you are trustworthy and also able to trust the people or persons that you are in business with and not lose who you are in that process.

  • @kevinlawrence8580
    @kevinlawrence8580 3 роки тому +222

    Roger Troutman. An underrated genius.

    • @kayshawnsimmons6822
      @kayshawnsimmons6822 3 роки тому +9

      He's not under rated, ge is a legend and kids today still know there music

    • @user-ls5so2ug2g
      @user-ls5so2ug2g 3 роки тому +15

      @@kayshawnsimmons6822 Yes he is known. But not for being a legend. He's known bc of using the synthesizer in his music. It was he who introduced us to Shirley Murdoch. Probably one of the greatest vocalist of the 80's. He wrote his music. But when you say his name.... All people think of is the synthesizer.

    • @robinlight
      @robinlight 11 місяців тому +1

      Maybe to you.

  • @jaewilliams9685
    @jaewilliams9685 3 роки тому +142

    Roger inspired a whole generation and genre that came decades after he debuted. That's influence. Besides their own Funk, Zapp influenced GFunk, Techno, House, Alternative R&B, & Trap Music.

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 2 роки тому +9

      Definitely. Roger was a pioneer and trailblazer.

    • @gnosferatu667
      @gnosferatu667 2 роки тому +2

      George Clinton and Bootsy Collins gave them that whole sound

    • @Nocturnal11Guy
      @Nocturnal11Guy 2 роки тому

      Movies as well.

  • @donniewebster7041
    @donniewebster7041 3 роки тому +77

    Zapp went on tour with Prince, The Time, and Vanity6.
    Those had to be some good concerts , I wish I had seen one.

    • @boydgreg8468
      @boydgreg8468 2 роки тому

      No vanity 6 was there

    • @kamelhamlaoui9983
      @kamelhamlaoui9983 10 місяців тому +1

      You can find a great picture of Prince & Roger together!!!!💕☔️😉😎

    • @1963teddybear
      @1963teddybear 3 місяці тому +3

      I went to that concert

  • @juliemarshall7913
    @juliemarshall7913 3 роки тому +143

    That was really tragically sad. What a waste. Sometimes you can never know what's going on inside someone's head.

    • @JustSayin-mz9jb
      @JustSayin-mz9jb 2 роки тому +2

      It's downright heartbreaking. I remember when the news hit the radio. I cries as if I knew them. So many beautiful memories of mine have their music in my soundtrack.

    • @jeromeosills6522
      @jeromeosills6522 2 роки тому +1

      The sad part is..Roger didn't care about what was going on in his brother's head. That's why he got what he got!!!

  • @Truth-Teller414
    @Truth-Teller414 3 роки тому +22

    I Wanna be Your Man’ my all time favorite Zapp& Roger❤️❤️❤️

  • @ttopbugatti9430
    @ttopbugatti9430 3 роки тому +44

    I once danced with Roger.. at one of his concerts, he came up to me with his guitar 🎸.. flirted with me but I didn’t take to his advances.. I missed that Train ie: the story of my life🥴 …I love me some Roger to infinity and beyond ‼️❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

    • @auntieeva4098
      @auntieeva4098 3 роки тому +9

      You were saved from tragedy and trauma.

  • @weldamalone6161
    @weldamalone6161 3 роки тому +66

    You ain't lying about some folks just being lazy my brother tried to start a housing community for people who said they needed help to get started. Well guess what? They got the help and then just never started🙄 he built two houses and then stopped because he wasn't making enough money from rent from the ones he built for people. He almost went under trying to help folks who didn't want to be helped. I'm not saying it's all people but it's definitely alot that are like that. It's sad.

  • @sheberry9512
    @sheberry9512 3 роки тому +119

    I love how she tells a story!👍🏼

    • @kayshawnsimmons6822
      @kayshawnsimmons6822 3 роки тому +13

      Yes, she's like a friend who comes over to give you all the tea👀🍿☕

  • @slseym07
    @slseym07 3 роки тому +260

    That whole family has been through it! Roger’s son, Roger Lynch, passed away four years after his dad from a mysterious head injury. And I recently found out that Lexi Alajai (not sure of the spelling), and up and coming rapper who passed of a drug overdose last year, was Roger Lynch’s daughter and Roger Troutman’s granddaughter. It’s just a whole messed up situation…

    • @kaleahcollins4567
      @kaleahcollins4567 3 роки тому +33

      Omg are you serious she was 21 a baby I knew she looked familiar it was in the eyes she was talented too

    • @auntieeva4098
      @auntieeva4098 3 роки тому +65

      Sadly it sounds like a generational curse.

    • @modgafr1852
      @modgafr1852 3 роки тому +14

      R.I.P Roger Lynch 😢

    • @liljroc4620
      @liljroc4620 3 роки тому +17

      Yeh it’s definitely a generational thing…..

    • @lauraveney1412
      @lauraveney1412 3 роки тому +14

      Junior had moved to Minneapolis and was killed in a fight at a bar. I do not think they ever caught the person who did it.

  • @AHMAD-2324
    @AHMAD-2324 3 роки тому +42

    Kane and Abel all over again...SMGDH such a sad ending for something that started out so beautiful. RIP Roger and Larry Troutman.

  • @arleatriceburroughs1455
    @arleatriceburroughs1455 3 роки тому +28

    I met Roger Troutman at a record shop in Charleston SC when computer love first came out I begged my mom to take me to meet them she did we took a pic together that night they had a show my sister & I went we had so much fun! The audience noticed how the band was all over us. The next night we went to see them again this time we met Shirley Murdock she was so sweet we came to the show about an hour before the show started, Shirley Murdock stepped down off the stage introduced herself to us & told us that her album would be out soon. When the show started Roger Troutman stepped off the stage and came over to our table the spot light followed him & when he came over to our table girls & guys we knew from our neighborhood mouths were hanging wide open those haters couldn't believe it! It's more to this story you have to read my book🤭

  • @dumbgeniusesfilmpodcast8879
    @dumbgeniusesfilmpodcast8879 3 роки тому +81

    RIP Roger troutman he was the best from the 1980s and 90s

  • @amircollins8065
    @amircollins8065 3 роки тому +484

    You should do Madame Cj Walker. She’s not Hollywood but she’s definetely a huge apart of media and The Black Mecca

  • @kve1247
    @kve1247 3 роки тому +112

    I was literally just watching Roger Troutman on Sinbad’s summer of soul!! Omg!! Such a talented man & so sad what happened to him & his brother! Very tragic! Thanks Ashley for covering his story!!

    • @Jaheartsjonas
      @Jaheartsjonas 3 роки тому +12

      @@coryrogers846 why are you leaving this comment as a reply on every unrelated comment? That is spam at this point.

    • @jordashi
      @jordashi 3 роки тому +4

      @@Jaheartsjonas just dislike it and flag it so UA-cam will remove it

    • @sharonsimmons7824
      @sharonsimmons7824 3 роки тому +4

      Well done Ashley on Rodger Troutmam Story. Enjoy your videos. Much love always.

  • @kayshawnsimmons6822
    @kayshawnsimmons6822 3 роки тому +22

    Computer Love was legendary, I remember being in grade school an the boys making the beat on the tables an the whole lunch room would go up. 🎼🎼🎼💃💃💃💃💃

  • @leamcclain1648
    @leamcclain1648 3 роки тому +10

    Doo Wa Ditty ( Blow That Thing) is my favorite Zapp and Roger song!

  • @lorriekelly964
    @lorriekelly964 3 роки тому +18

    So sad the way Roger left us. Will always miss
    Him especially the music
    He would have made.
    But one thing is real Jealousy is real !
    Even with Family.
    Bless Him to have made
    It to Heaven. ❤

  • @lucyall1898
    @lucyall1898 3 роки тому +40

    So sad. Money between friends and relatives create a thinner line between love and hate. Family equals entitlement and emotions. Roger was still being a little brother when he got in his big brother's car. Roger couldnt' grow up. Love him. His music is alive! Thank you for this story.🥰

    • @taragraham6628
      @taragraham6628 2 роки тому +2

      Roger could not how Up no Larry Yoko things to far you can rebuild a bussiness talking soneones life is not be undone

  • @gwenstevens1963
    @gwenstevens1963 3 роки тому +69

    Hey Ashley 🌹RIP ROGER I REMEMBER WHEN THIS FIRST AIRED I CRIED 😭😭 Family and money investment don’t mix !!! Thanks Ashley

    • @dahmeneekah
      @dahmeneekah 3 роки тому +2

      Family and money investment apparently does mix. Almost Every corporation out here is family. We work for families (if you have a job). There just needs to be others included while doing business that isn't close in emotions - which is what helps keeps things going.

  • @tiffanyjohnson8119
    @tiffanyjohnson8119 3 роки тому +15

    The Unsung done on Roger showed how divided the family became afterward this situation ended badly.

  • @lolarose2423
    @lolarose2423 3 роки тому +25

    I listen to “Computer Love” regularly…love that song!!! Amazing video!!!

  • @SweetJustice
    @SweetJustice 2 роки тому +7

    Families that are blessed with extraordinary gifts seem to also carry extraordinary burdens.

  • @goldenlady3495
    @goldenlady3495 3 роки тому +48

    "They had their pick of the litter, honey! And yes, by 'litter' I mean 🐱litter..."
    I AM THRU 😂😂😂

  • @TC-firstclasscloser
    @TC-firstclasscloser 2 роки тому +45

    Sadness overload, because Larry really needed lots of therapy, a financial literacy program to teach him how to recoup from real estate (which is generational wealth when done right), (business LLC’s for the empire especially one for Roger & his children) and a stress management outlet (exercise, writing, meditation etc.).
    Well could’ve, should’ve or would’ve but never did and that’s a tragedy for Roger and Zap Enterprise. Remember you can’t afford to help everyone if you can’t help yourself first.

    • @jeromeosills6522
      @jeromeosills6522 2 роки тому +5

      So your basically blaming Larry for everything huh? What about the fact that it was a family business starting out then when financial strains come along from trying to help the community everybody abandons ship and leave one holding the bag.

    • @luzluna6808
      @luzluna6808 Рік тому

      Very wee said.

    • @missvida6251
      @missvida6251 Рік тому

      @@jeromeosills6522I don’t think Larry was to blame for everything. I truly believe he wanted to keep the band together and I don’t think he was stealing money. He was broken at 37:02 the end.

  • @fredkelley
    @fredkelley 3 роки тому +27

    Yeah that still is a heavy subject. You dont even have to be in there family to feel how painful it is. Man I hope they are able to resolve and come back together as a family. Time heals things

  • @pinkaurianna8876
    @pinkaurianna8876 3 роки тому +115

    One of my dad's favorite stories to tell is how in the eighties he was in the club and how he was so fine, he took Roger Troutman's woman he brought and they almost had a fist fight lmao. Who's to know if it's true or not but I love that story. Love ya Ash!

  • @chrisisslick
    @chrisisslick 3 роки тому +31

    Who remembers their unsung episode? Just sad smh. I'm about to tune into Ashley and see if she sheds any new light.

  • @sjackso256
    @sjackso256 3 роки тому +32

    This was so tragic, and I'm sure it caused some hard feelings between their children

  • @christyglamr2951
    @christyglamr2951 3 роки тому +151

    Yassss I was so ready for this one. Ashley Says So never disappoints hunty. The SCANDAL CHILE. THE SCANDAL. THE BEST STORYTELLER ON UA-cam HANDS DOWN 💜💜💯💯.

    • @RowZeeG
      @RowZeeG 3 роки тому +3

      💯0% accurate 😂😂😂..

    • @foxyboop4164
      @foxyboop4164 3 роки тому +1

      Absolutely 💯

    • @Nichiel
      @Nichiel 2 роки тому

      Right!

  • @ivyteacherwilson
    @ivyteacherwilson 3 роки тому +46

    We loved Roger Troutman & Zapp growing up! My uncles would play their albums all the time..they thought Roger's voicebox was genius!😄 When Tupac released 'California Love' and we heard Roger Troutman, chileeeee, it was instant love!! I was pumped Roger was working with someone as cool as Tupac! I remember when the news broke about his murder--just awful. Another great job Ashley!🙂💯❤

  • @GregoryW_NC71
    @GregoryW_NC71 3 роки тому +45

    This is definitely one of my top 3 favorite UA-cam channels. I wait for these videos!!

    • @jordashi
      @jordashi 3 роки тому +3

      @@coryrogers846 quiet Cory

    • @AnovaLisaDragonfly
      @AnovaLisaDragonfly 3 роки тому +3

      I'm with you, Gregory. This is one of the very few channels where I actually wait and look for the videos to come. :-) And I love when she drops them on Fridays 'cause I know I'll be chillin' and watching that same night.

    • @GregoryW_NC71
      @GregoryW_NC71 3 роки тому +1

      @@AnovaLisaDragonfly right lol. Definitely helps with my boredom

    • @GregoryW_NC71
      @GregoryW_NC71 3 роки тому +4

      @@jordashi it's funny when somebody else comments and "knows more" than the one that made the video. Especially when they can't spell Berry Gordy's name right, but gonna say she don't know what she talkin about

  • @ThriftedDadHat
    @ThriftedDadHat 3 роки тому +38

    “Musty, crusted up record label” got me weak!!! 😂

  • @4.d.y.w
    @4.d.y.w 3 роки тому +16

    "I'm not a rapper" honey, we knoooooowwww. Cause what was that 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @ashnicole9354
    @ashnicole9354 3 роки тому +29

    Now do Charlie Wilson!!!!!! Keep this one going!

  • @fancydani
    @fancydani 3 роки тому +88

    Home of funk- Dayton OH. Troutman is a legend in our city. He was way before his time, I’m surprised the song Computer Love 💕 wasn’t really talked about on this video it’s a classic! I hate that his brother killed him 😓

    • @freestateofgrizzy1937
      @freestateofgrizzy1937 3 роки тому +12

      Alot of musical legends came from Ohio

    • @marthettalewis5107
      @marthettalewis5107 3 роки тому +6

      @@freestateofgrizzy1937 I use to think that Zapp & Roger, was from California.🤣

    • @themagicians1122
      @themagicians1122 3 роки тому +14

      @@freestateofgrizzy1937
      They. CALL US THE HOME OF THE FUNK,
      ZAPP, SLAVE, LAKESIDE, OHIO PLAYERS,
      HEATWAVE, SLAVE,
      FAZE-O ( RIDING HIGH),
      THE ISLEY BROTHERS,
      DAYTON/ CINCINATTI
      AND LEVERT .
      YES WE
      OWN
      &R&B AND FUNK MUSIC
      OHIOOOOOOOOOO
      BABY!!!!

    • @freestateofgrizzy1937
      @freestateofgrizzy1937 3 роки тому +2

      @@marthettalewis5107 You would think that huh but back in the day you never really knew where an artist was from

    • @capricornqueen3139
      @capricornqueen3139 3 роки тому +4

      Yess Dayton Roll Call
      Townview❤
      Aka The Gem City✊🏿👑💎

  • @arranarei
    @arranarei 3 роки тому +57

    I met Zapp & Roger band when they use to do the Old School blues festival in Harvest, AL. I actually sang for Shirley Murdock one time and she said I made it sound “different” 😂😂. Oh and Big Robb too! But I always heard Larry was jealous.

    • @Jaheartsjonas
      @Jaheartsjonas 3 роки тому +12

      @praise Yah! praise Yah! this dude is spamming this comment for some reason, pay no mind to him

    • @jordashi
      @jordashi 3 роки тому +5

      @praise Yah! praise Yah! flag and dislike his comments so UA-cam can remove them.

  • @michaelaccardofrontczak
    @michaelaccardofrontczak Рік тому +5

    11:15 The first person who ever used a Talkbox is a steel guitar player "Pete Drake" after that it was Peter Frampton, Stevie Wonder, Roger Troutman and Teddy Riley who all used the Talkbox.

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 Місяць тому

      Todd Rundgren and Sly Stone also used it too.

  • @bonnietaylor-williams5112
    @bonnietaylor-williams5112 3 роки тому +43

    Yes Stevie Wonder is the first artist that was approached with the pitch “This device will change the life of your music Stevie, it’s going to make you a lot of money”.
    More Bounce To The Ounce is still a Jam, I still listen to it! Roger made listeners really take note of the the talking box. Honestly, we real, true music lovers and fans noticed it when Stevie used it. In all fairness we always expected genius from Stevie… It was a given, it was Stevie Wonder. Roger pumped it up when he did the entire song with the talking box, layering it with that electrified super FUNK! Great video Ashley!

    • @johnburrows5444
      @johnburrows5444 3 роки тому +8

      Sly and the Family Stone did it before all of them. The song" Don't Call Me N#gger Whitey!!" And " Sex Machine" in the late 60s and the early 70s

    • @themagicians1122
      @themagicians1122 3 роки тому +3

      Y'all also FORGOT
      THEM EUROPEANS KRAFTWERK
      MADE ALL THEIR SONGS WITH A TALKBOX
      TRANS
      EUROPE EXPRESS!!
      * NOTE I AM FROM THE GEM CITY OF DAYTON OHIO THE HOME OF THE FUNK
      ROGER AND ZAPP
      WELL THE GROUP ZAPP STILL DOES TOURS
      THERE TOUR BUSES ARE IN A GARAGE
      ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM ME
      AND TRUST ME
      THEM TROUTMAN BROTHERS
      STILL GET IN IN TO THIS DAY,
      I SEE THEM BUSES MOVE IN AND OUT
      ALLLLLLL THE TIME, ITS NEVER SITTING STILL JUST PARKED

    • @themagicians1122
      @themagicians1122 3 роки тому +5

      No one. WORKED THE TALKBOX " THE WAY ROGER DID
      HE CHANGED PART OF THE R& B FUNK ERA FOR SURE

  • @jasminepearson1496
    @jasminepearson1496 3 роки тому +87

    When I tell you I was just thinking about when ashley was going to drop a new video 😍. Yasssss Ashley thank you girl 🥰🥰

    • @ashantilovelace-jones3492
      @ashantilovelace-jones3492 3 роки тому +7

      Me too chile (in my Ashley says so voice)!!!

    • @yonie8094
      @yonie8094 3 роки тому +4

      Yessss i be rewatching like 👍🏾 pleaseeee hurry up!! Lol

    • @jasminepearson1496
      @jasminepearson1496 3 роки тому +3

      @@yonie8094 yasss hunny. Take your time but hurry up

    • @GAPEACHSESSION
      @GAPEACHSESSION 3 роки тому +5

      I know. I was thinking about her too

    • @jordashi
      @jordashi 3 роки тому +5

      @@coryrogers846 😁 yay!!! Guess what time it is??? Flag time 🚩🚩🚩

  • @bdr5518
    @bdr5518 3 роки тому +59

    Ashley I’m addicted to your channel keep them coming ☕️

    • @jordashi
      @jordashi 3 роки тому +5

      @@coryrogers846 dude seriously like why are you spamming this? Chill out, honestly I’m just going to flag every last one of these.

    • @foxyboop4164
      @foxyboop4164 3 роки тому +1

      @@coryrogers846 Ex-lax is your friend, sir

  • @TheBigmont1975
    @TheBigmont1975 3 роки тому +9

    I'm about listen to Zapp and Roger's greatest hits right now!

  • @tyardovdabulldht2340
    @tyardovdabulldht2340 3 роки тому +23

    I heard Larry had a tear rolling down his face when his body was found.

    • @tyardovdabulldht2340
      @tyardovdabulldht2340 3 роки тому +6

      @Keisha Few That's so sad.

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 2 роки тому +8

      Yeah I heard that too. In fact it was Shirley Murdock who said it. 😢

  • @countzacula0121
    @countzacula0121 10 місяців тому +2

    Roger was the front man for Zapp, wrote/produced all of the songs, played almost every instrument on all of the tracks. Along with all four of his solo releases The Many Facets of Roger, The Saga Continues, Unlimited and Bridging The Gap.

  • @paxtongay5703
    @paxtongay5703 2 роки тому +5

    Ashley, you left out some info Baby. Roger did indeed release another solo album between ZAPP 3&4,It was the solo album The SAGA Continues, ZAPP III was a Banger,but IV that's when the group was starting to go cold until 1987 when Roger came out the album Unlimited with the hit single I Wanna Be Your Man, a Platinum Banger.

  • @SJanez91
    @SJanez91 3 роки тому +145

    #SaySoSquad For many years I never knew Roger Troutman was dead until I watched their Unsung episode a few years ago. I just hate the fact that their family chose to bury them together and gave them a sharing headstone. I can't imagine how Roger's children feel to know that their father is buried with his killer, their uncle. This was a really sad tragedy.

    • @MauvaisetBourgeoise
      @MauvaisetBourgeoise 3 роки тому +30

      I agree with you! I saw that episode years ago and you can tell their is still division between Roger's kids and Larry's kids; Larry's kids were disrespectful because they expected Roger's kids to mourn for Larry, even though he murdered their father. Larry's kids were crying that they lost their father too.

    • @nigerjenkins6372
      @nigerjenkins6372 3 роки тому +3

      Oh wow

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 2 роки тому +11

      Yeah that was so weird. I get that there are those in the family that sympathize with the both of them but that was... too much. I guess it was their way of coping?

    • @gabriellew.1164
      @gabriellew.1164 2 роки тому +12

      Yes, but they had so much history besides that one moment. The killer also killed himself, what a moment of torture! And as for the parents, they love both their children to the end, no matter what. Of course they would bury them together.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 2 роки тому +7

      If only you knew about his SON, Roger Jr who co founded Mint Condition. or his Granddaughter.

  • @Oottee207
    @Oottee207 3 роки тому +81

    I was shocked to find out Roger was killed by his own brother...it so sad. The family was a talented bunch under the guidence of Roger. I used to go to clubs and listen to them play. Roger is continuing to influence music today. He had his head on straight he had a vision and dream...so sad 😭

    • @tammygouletschrader8785
      @tammygouletschrader8785 2 роки тому +2

      I found out years ago that he was killed by his brother and was sad. Loved his solo album

    • @jeromeosills6522
      @jeromeosills6522 2 роки тому

      Everybody blaming Larry. Larry was hurt by his actions enough to take his own life...that means alot.

    • @antwanwilson7228
      @antwanwilson7228 2 роки тому +2

      @@jeromeosills6522 Or he didn't want to face what he done.

  • @IJustCant-jj2rv
    @IJustCant-jj2rv 3 роки тому +165

    I hadn't heard about this until years later. My suspicion is Vietnam messed Larry up in the head. I've seen it firsthand with my Uncle and my mother's ex. War is no joke! I feel equally bad for both of them.
    But 'Computer Love'? Gurrrl that is STILL the jam!

    • @user-ls5so2ug2g
      @user-ls5so2ug2g 3 роки тому +34

      The funny part is when that song came out, no one had a 💻. 😂 But it did go well with the synthesizers. I loved "I wanna be your man". We were lil kids and my boyfriend sang it to me after he gave me some strawberry now &layers. 😂It was true love. 😂

    • @IJustCant-jj2rv
      @IJustCant-jj2rv 3 роки тому +13

      @@user-ls5so2ug2g Awwwww...that's cute! If he buys you candy, he's that into you! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @slim420-e8v
      @slim420-e8v 3 роки тому +1

      Maybe someone else killed both of them.

    • @IJustCant-jj2rv
      @IJustCant-jj2rv 3 роки тому

      @@slim420-e8v Explain😅😅😅👍🏾

    • @bernicesmith4248
      @bernicesmith4248 3 роки тому +6

      Vietnam massed him up terrible. He had no real family support in that aspect of his life.

  • @donnastanley8536
    @donnastanley8536 3 роки тому +73

    Wow Ashley reliving that day again. That anoucment on the radio that day was unbelievable i was in shock!!! And the black community was too. But thank you for the story Ashley it cleared up alot of details. I hope God heal the family on both sides. Happy Thanksgiving !!

  • @AndreaClinton
    @AndreaClinton 3 роки тому +38

    When you have a company, the money goes to the company 1st. So Larry couldn't be too wrong. How do you steal money when its not coming in anymore? Money kills relationships.

  • @ubermenschen3636
    @ubermenschen3636 3 роки тому +17

    12 children without a father.

  • @kennethfuquaii469
    @kennethfuquaii469 3 роки тому +85

    If Larry was on drugs, he definitely was stealing money from the company. No doubt about it. Also, if he was desperate enough to kill his own flesh and blood and himself, you know he was responsible for the bad decisions of the enterprise. So sad. Many blessings to the Troutman family

    • @IJustCant-jj2rv
      @IJustCant-jj2rv 3 роки тому +25

      The sad part is that if Larry was allegedly on drugs, it sounds like self-medication. Like I said above, Vietnam messed him up. Most of the military suffered from PTSD. And alot of soldiers of color suffered even worse because there were no resources like therapy offered to them unlike their white counterparts. I'm not excusing him for killing his brother, but it sounded like Larry wasn't able to go through the proper channels for help. Js....

    • @user-ls5so2ug2g
      @user-ls5so2ug2g 3 роки тому +20

      @@IJustCant-jj2rv War cripples many. I'm not talking just physically. I'm talking emotionally and mentally. You don't go through something like war and then come home and not be harmed emotionally and mentally. No one's that strong. No one.

    • @IJustCant-jj2rv
      @IJustCant-jj2rv 3 роки тому +8

      @@user-ls5so2ug2g Precisely! If anyone comes back from war and is a-OK, look out! They may look okay on the outside, but I can only imagine how they are behind closed doors.

    • @user-ls5so2ug2g
      @user-ls5so2ug2g 3 роки тому +4

      @Michael Davis 😂😂😂 Yeah, we know😂It was the dark forces of voodoo and/or that illuminate😂OMG! I get so tired of people who don't have ish, making themselves believe that the only way others have anything is bc they made a deal w/t 😈. All to justify why they don't have ish and others have so much.😂God forbid they worked hard to get it. 😂Oh no. They made a deal w/t 😈. How ignorant.😂

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 3 роки тому +5

      Him being on drugs makes sense considering many Vietnam veterans were addicts.

  • @MarkHallOfFame
    @MarkHallOfFame 3 роки тому +13

    I definitely heard that Suge Knight and Larry Troutman story!!!😂😂😂 one of the producers from Death Row told that story. There’s literally a Suge Knight story for everything.🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @Regina.Michelle
    @Regina.Michelle 2 роки тому +4

    Money can cause so many problems. This was heartbreaking between brothers. Larry was very disturbed

  • @breannaqueen.593
    @breannaqueen.593 3 роки тому +32

    I am so glad you told us about him it has been a long time since I have heard about him and I love to hear you talk

    • @jordashi
      @jordashi 3 роки тому +5

      @@coryrogers846 you will be stopped

  • @stickshiftdriver1832
    @stickshiftdriver1832 3 роки тому +45

    Larry was a Vietnam vet who suffered from PTSD. I doubt that Sug Knight would had been able to simply grab Larry by the collar without a fight or being hurt himself

    • @sophienunley4766
      @sophienunley4766 3 роки тому +7

      I agree

    • @IJustCant-jj2rv
      @IJustCant-jj2rv 3 роки тому +7

      Idk...Suge is a BIG, ex-football player.

    • @stickshiftdriver1832
      @stickshiftdriver1832 3 роки тому +24

      @@IJustCant-jj2rv a trained soldier especially a Marine could take down a big football player twice his size. They are trained to fight and kill

    • @IJustCant-jj2rv
      @IJustCant-jj2rv 3 роки тому +2

      @@stickshiftdriver1832 Oh,....okay. I believe ya!

    • @timmy841212
      @timmy841212 3 роки тому +5

      I agree. That story sounds weird.

  • @leonatorres624
    @leonatorres624 3 роки тому +10

    “Go home Roger” … I caught that sister sister reference 😆…

  • @debraburrows8435
    @debraburrows8435 3 роки тому +5

    The Sylvers. Just found out Jody Watley's daughter is by Leon Sylvers. Leon Sylvers married Nidra Beard from the group Dynasty. He wrote songs and played bass for both Shalamar at and Dynasty. Lots of tea going on at Solar records. Leon Sylvers was that dude in the 1980's

  • @stevenporter1170
    @stevenporter1170 3 роки тому +64

    Ashley this was a very sad story because Roger Troutman had just been reintroduce to a younger audience because Rap music was just blowing up and with Rapper's sampling Roger's music the Rapper's was reintroduced to the voicebox . I do believe that Roger Troutman should have retired Larry from Troutman Enterprises because the business was not going to survive. And Roger Troutman should have brought them all together and told them that he was considering going solo as an artist.

    • @user-ls5so2ug2g
      @user-ls5so2ug2g 3 роки тому +13

      For this to have happened, I don't think no matter how he did it, things would have still ended badly. No one just wakes up one day and decides on a whim to off his brother and then himself. (smh)

    • @jeromeosills6522
      @jeromeosills6522 2 роки тому

      Roger was selfish and arrogant...and it's sad what happened next.

  • @sandramorris420
    @sandramorris420 3 роки тому +19

    Zap and Roger were awesome musicians, “ A Class Act.” Ashley, Amazing Commentary as usual !!!

  • @amircollins8065
    @amircollins8065 3 роки тому +80

    You should do Madame Cj Walker. She’s not Hollywood but she’s definetely a huge apart of media and The Black Mecca. You would literally kill it

  • @AquariusSoul
    @AquariusSoul 3 роки тому +22

    What a talent! So sad how everything unfolded in the end. I hope his family is at peace they have endured a few tragedies.

  • @thettarobinson5009
    @thettarobinson5009 3 роки тому +10

    Ashley you make me feel like I’m your auntie that you laugh & gossip with. Gurl yo husband is a handsome bearded man & ur a cute couple. I always look forward to you talking to us. Thanks for the inside scoop on Roger! U always dig deep.

  • @AnovaLisaDragonfly
    @AnovaLisaDragonfly 3 роки тому +9

    More Bounce To The Ounce and Computer Love... Chicago rollerskating music back in the day!

  • @Mr.Miami305dadecounty
    @Mr.Miami305dadecounty 3 роки тому +6

    He Did Hit That Note at The end of "California Luv"💯💯

  • @KDUncensored
    @KDUncensored 3 роки тому +24

    I remember watching the Unsung version of this story. It was a really sad turn out! Let me tune in cause I know you’re gonna make me. Laugh 😂 Love you Auntie 🖤

  • @audracollins3634
    @audracollins3634 3 роки тому +21

    I didn’t know Peter Frampton used the “talk box” … love you Ash, always happy to see you, and 💙 your platform… keep bringing it sis 🥰

    • @gwendolynbien-aime1536
      @gwendolynbien-aime1536 3 роки тому +9

      Yep. Peter Frampton . The album was “Frampton Comes Alive” and the song was “Do You Feel (Like I Do)?”

    • @Godisgreat-b4e
      @Godisgreat-b4e 3 роки тому

      @Mr. No Weapon (The Prince Of The Talkbox) And Kanye ain’t even sometimes 😂😎❤️💯

    • @garytaylor8344
      @garytaylor8344 3 роки тому

      So did Joe Walsh who also used the talk box.

    • @isiskittyify
      @isiskittyify 2 роки тому +1

      @@gwendolynbien-aime1536 YES, that album was HUGE. It is a great album, and it blew my mind when it came out. Peter Frampton , legend. Roger Troutman, brilliant artist.

  • @duddydud
    @duddydud Рік тому +2

    Ashley thank you for giving both sides that is very admirable.

  • @Creole164
    @Creole164 3 роки тому +5

    Zapp was on the lineup for the homecoming concert in 2004 of my Freshman year at Southern U. I remember us being like, “who is that?” Then Computer Love started! The whole mini dome went crazy! Fun! 💙💛💙💛

  • @LeolaGlamour
    @LeolaGlamour 3 роки тому +7

    12 child support payments. Lord even at 1000 each it’s 12000 a MONTH.

  • @ccfunk1
    @ccfunk1 3 роки тому +14

    Roger as he got older wanted to do things on his own from what i heard. earlier the rap group EPMD used the Zapp song "more bounce to the ounce" on they record "you gots to chill". later Roger worked with Tupac on the song california love.Larry had some business difficulties and was maybe looking for help with it or whatever.

  • @KariTheBarb
    @KariTheBarb 3 роки тому +82

    But in my opinion I think Larry killed Roger over Jealousy and greed

    • @stephanie3506
      @stephanie3506 3 роки тому +17

      Nah, Larry wasn't really like that but he was trying to live an old dream and stuck in the past, he couldn't move on from the way they had done things in the past......he was just very depressed and felt abandoned.

    • @KariTheBarb
      @KariTheBarb 3 роки тому

      @@stephanie3506 hmmmm

    • @iamprettyblackcutiepie5979
      @iamprettyblackcutiepie5979 3 роки тому +1

      He did I agree 👌🏿Sad but true 😭

    • @stephanie3506
      @stephanie3506 3 роки тому +18

      @@KariTheBarb My spirit just tells me the way things went down he wasn't greedy or jealous cause it would have come out before then. The way he was trying to help everybody in the city proves he wasn't selfish. He just wasn't a smart business man and he got bitter and felt used and abandoned in the end. Plus add mental effects of the war.....It's just sad all the way around! Do you know any more that may add some different understanding?

    • @vincentharris2259
      @vincentharris2259 3 роки тому +14

      @@stephanie3506 I didn't know that his brother Larry went to Vietnam You put that plus the craziness of the industry together and mix money and fame in and you have a dangerous combustion.

  • @renerevere
    @renerevere 2 роки тому +4

    I’m from Dayton.. it shocked the entire city💯

    • @alexaashley9066
      @alexaashley9066 2 роки тому +1

      Any knowledge on what he was like in 🛏️

  • @angiemcgee2156
    @angiemcgee2156 3 роки тому +6

    Seen him in person back in the 80s or 90s it was great performance. That man was crazy too pulling his pants down on stage 🤪

  • @williebarrett7198
    @williebarrett7198 3 роки тому +21

    Great video. I believe the Suge Knight rumor. He closed a lot of business deals bullying people.

    • @kayshawnsimmons6822
      @kayshawnsimmons6822 3 роки тому +10

      Which is why he's still locked up😒

    • @IJustCant-jj2rv
      @IJustCant-jj2rv 3 роки тому +4

      Didn't he have Vanilla Ice dangling outside a hotel balcony by his ankles?

    • @williebarrett7198
      @williebarrett7198 3 роки тому +1

      @@IJustCant-jj2rv, Yes, That is how Suge got the songwriter royalties for the original songwriter for Ice Ice Baby.

    • @IJustCant-jj2rv
      @IJustCant-jj2rv 3 роки тому +4

      @@williebarrett7198 Suge is simply using Mafia tactics. That's the ugly (but very true) side of the business.

    • @kayshawnsimmons6822
      @kayshawnsimmons6822 3 роки тому

      @@IJustCant-jj2rv yup

  • @niasiafields5219
    @niasiafields5219 Рік тому +2

    Ashley, Roger was still alive when he got to the hospital, but he died during surgery...so sad😢😢😢

  • @RubiPearl560
    @RubiPearl560 3 роки тому +12

    My mama told me stories of him wanting her. It was hilarious 😆

  • @ladarionaustin2179
    @ladarionaustin2179 3 роки тому +8

    I remember when they announced Rogers Death as a Kid my father had to pull over and collect himself So sad Rest In Peace 🙏🏾

  • @yolandagreen6792
    @yolandagreen6792 2 роки тому +3

    So sad how money can turn to turnmoil and hatred in the family. 😔💯

  • @tammysummers1092
    @tammysummers1092 3 роки тому +6

    Loved Roger! He was so talented and my fav song was "I wanna be your man", among others. I used to have his album Bucket of Blood. RIP Roger🙏

  • @e-maginne
    @e-maginne 3 роки тому +16

    I’m sitting in the car in the parking lot at Walmart waiting for my sister to finish shopping. I’m sure glad to see this video 🙌🏽

  • @shunniepoo3110
    @shunniepoo3110 3 роки тому +13

    Wheww chile, I almost broke a finger nail clicking on this video .. thank you girl !!! 😆❤️💯

  • @queenkaili3243
    @queenkaili3243 3 роки тому +39

    This one was pretty low in “scandal” but definitely still a sad story.

    • @hiphopjewels
      @hiphopjewels 2 роки тому +5

      It’s high on scandal actually, the womanizing, the alleged breach of contract, people being assaulted over music samples, sibling rivalry leading in death, and a family torn apart as the result. How much worse can it get?

  • @ArleeBeeTV
    @ArleeBeeTV 3 роки тому +6

    He is my cousin’s father , messed with my aunt when he was in Grand Rapids MI

  • @kishahooks8947
    @kishahooks8947 3 роки тому +21

    Awesome job Ashley!! This was well worth the wait. Continue to take your breaks honey your self care produces excellent content for us!!🙌🏽

  • @marquewallace
    @marquewallace 3 роки тому +12

    Great job on The Roger Troutman and Zapp group your story is well examined and investigated thoroughly, could you PLEASE' do a story on the group 'Slave from Dayton Ohio ' they were one of the youngest most talented groups of the 70's thanks.

  • @yonie8094
    @yonie8094 3 роки тому +5

    🗣🗣🗣MUSTY CRUSTED UP RECORD LABEL!!! I can’t! 😂😂😭😭

  • @naturalgurl96
    @naturalgurl96 3 роки тому +3

    Shout Out to my hometown! Growing up the old folk would tell us stories about Roger Troutman and also Lakeside since they grew up with them and were around during those times.

  • @debbiethompson14
    @debbiethompson14 3 роки тому +3

    Family Members are SO HARD ON EACH OTHER.😭😭😭

  • @xowhitox
    @xowhitox 3 роки тому +5

    9:20 …the kitty litter💁🏾‍♀️ MOVING ON!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣♥️

  • @konstanceclark276
    @konstanceclark276 3 роки тому +8

    I’m weak😂😂😂🤣love your animated self introducing rap

  • @shaydeebee
    @shaydeebee 2 роки тому +5

    Someone who is high end, in the industry, told me, Larry was jealous of Roger, because, when they went broke, there were a lot of stars, that would put money together for Roger, for projects, and he got big money, and didn't have to share it with Larry. Larry felt Roger was leaving the family business hanging. He wanted to touch some of every penny, that Roger made, or had given to him. The industry was taking care of Roger, because Larry was spending all of the money, but Roger was the star. 🤞🏾😬

  • @beebeetee2926
    @beebeetee2926 3 роки тому +4

    I'm here for Mr. Slow n Easy.🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @kiyaabowens8774
    @kiyaabowens8774 3 роки тому +9

    I will never forget that Sunday morning. I sat at Aunt Ruth's with her. The entire community was there to support her. RIP YALL

  • @trevalockett2348
    @trevalockett2348 2 роки тому +3

    More Bounce is still the Jam.You can play it at any party and baby everybody getting up!! RIH Roger and Larry

  • @TillisWard
    @TillisWard 3 роки тому +7

    You did a good job on this story I had no idea what happened to this group. This is truly sad 😔 brothers killing brothers over money.

  • @PeppyLuv
    @PeppyLuv 3 роки тому +30

    What’s even sadder…Roger and Larry share the same cemetery plot & headstone…

    • @m.woodsrobinson9244
      @m.woodsrobinson9244 3 роки тому +4

      😱😥😥😥

    • @CuratorOfCrime
      @CuratorOfCrime 3 роки тому +13

      It always makes me shake my head when the family does that. I usually see it when a married couple has a murder suicide and they bury them together with shared headstone 🪦 and marriage date etc. it seems so off to me.

    • @rosajohnson5212
      @rosajohnson5212 3 роки тому +18

      Maybe, their mother looked at it from a mother's point of view. You two need to get past this and make up. You're brothers and nothing should come between you. At the end of the day, forgiveness is key.

    • @shamonevictory
      @shamonevictory 3 роки тому +11

      @@rosajohnson5212 Comfort for the mother yes...they are gone and forgiveness didn't happen.

    • @rosajohnson5212
      @rosajohnson5212 3 роки тому +3

      @@shamonevictory , since they didn't die immediately, they may have forgiven. I'm inclined to believe that Roger understood why Larry did it and he knew that Larry's mind was already bad. I'm from a large family and I have seen my siblings forgive one another right after an argument. I'm the only one that took longer to let things go. That's probably because I am the baby, nine years behind the youngest prior to me. I saw them let go what to me was serious. That's the way my mother raised us. It is sad that the children are at odds.

  • @viodo5895
    @viodo5895 3 роки тому +2

    I love how you tell these stories Ash. You don't present anything as the truth you ain't talking about receipts you are a pure gossip channel and for some reason I respect that. I like that more than someone trying to prove facts. You just lay all of your gossip down and say this is what's out there. I respect that.

  • @yndiaeverywhere
    @yndiaeverywhere 3 роки тому +6

    I was just jamming Roger Troutman & Johnny Gill Your Body. Thinking how amazing his music had been