5 Important Steps Before Buying A Lens for Astrophotography
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- Опубліковано 9 бер 2024
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In today's video I discuss 5 simple steps you can make before buying a lens for landscape astrophotography.
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Hi Alyn! One small corection.
Sigma is actualy 2 thirds of a stop brighter. 66% wich is a lot IMO.
Thank you Alyn, you are very much missed. RIP
RIP Alyn. You will be missed and your vids and teaching will last forever.
Wow, this is so sad news. RIP 🙏
RIP Alyn
RIP
So sad, we all will miss him.
Rest in peace Alyn 😢😢😢
Nicely done Alyn! Was funny seeing you shake me in the intro 😂 Speaking of lenses / lens reviews I finally had the chance to review that TTArtisan 500 for deep sky work. I remember when you reviewed it you were curious how it would do. Video up now over on my channel - I’m impressed for the price!
That'a me blaming you for wanting the ridiculously expensive 15mm f/1.4 haha It looks amazing, really wanna film the aurora with it. I got your video in my Watch Later list, just on the road chasing the comet.
In this so virtual world where everything remains persisted, it's hard to believe that you're now looking down at us from this sky that you seemed to love and respect that much.
Since your departure, I'm thinking a lot about how everything is so temporary. I hope your family and the people that loved you can find the necessary peace in order to handle that.
Rip young man. 🙏 loved your videos. Thanks for all the great information, and talent you brought to this field.
RIP the modern day Patrick Moore, your book and videos will forever remain the benchmark!
Rest in paradise brotha. You will forever be a staple in my book. Your legacy will forever live on. Thank you for what you've done for this community.
Oh damn! Just found out about his passing reading the comments. 😥 One of my top 5 astro guys here on YT. RIP Alyn. I hope the view you have of the cosmos is even greater than I believe it is.
I naver meet Alyn in person, but has loved for Nightscape and Astrophotography was very informative and educational, I enjoyed his monthly " Whats in the night sky " video on UA-cam.
R.I.P Alyn, I'll miss you your man🙏
Said. He was a great contributor to astrophotography. We will surely miss him.
Great video! For me the decision also was an easy one, but I went for the Sigma. The size and weight is not as bad as I thought it would be, and the fact that it comes with a tripod collar because of it makes framing quite a bit easier and eliminates the need for an L-bracket. While the extra 2/3’s of a stop extra light is nice, I mainly bought it for the quality of life features like the manual focus lock and the extra dew heater retention slot. Since corner performance on both lenses is very impressive and the fact that they cost pretty much the same, the only reason not to take the Sigma is the combination of size and weight. That is always a personal decision, and I understand you for picking the Sony. For me, it does not “outweigh” the advantages ;)
I use the Ulanzi S-63 so now all my lenses have a tripod collar :)
nice, agree, you should also mention Christopher Frost concerning testing
Very rarely does astro tests and aberration investigation is usually inadequate. He's more daytime photography and sharpness
What a great timing on this video... I've been on the fence about a few lenses for a while including those two. Thanks!
Appreciate you for taking the time to share all this valuable information when it comes to lens selection-very helpful!
Appreciate your advice Alyn amd also couple of new bookmarks added for lens referencing. Sorry to hear about the Star Glow filter situation too.
Finally, I needed this video ! Thank you !
Alyn coming in with the right video at the right time while I am sitting here planning on buying 7 Lenses this year and rebuilding basically my complete kit 😂
I am in bed with Sigma 14/1,4 since it became available in Czech republic and I love it :)
Yes, it's large, bulky, heavy, but optically it is great and super sharp.
Thanks for cool video mate. And clear skies for everyone.
Alyn, thanks for the information.
Great video, thanks!
RIP, Ayln. You will be missed.
good gye Alyn, your movies made me love astrophotography .. will never forget you.
Thanks for the video Alyn. Another way to try to get the raw files or even do some tests on the lens is to reach out some local astrophotography group. About your idea of the raw files' site, the server don't need to have a big memory (and cost more $$$ for this) if you put the files in some storage server like google drive, dropbox, etc and use just good quality jpg as catalog in the site with links to the big files
Nice summary. I started out with the Rokinon 14mm but didn’t like the coma and the over-wide (to me) field of view. Today I use a Nikon F 1.8 20mm with the ATZ adaptor on my Z7ii. I’m nowhere near a pro like you, but this setup works well for my skill level.
First thing on receiving a lens is take out on a star filled night and take shots at ever aperture. One lens I recommend and have used since '15 after Trey Ratcliff tested it is the APS-C lens E 10-18mm (15-27mm) f/4 OSS is excellent to this day used in full frame mode 12-18mm (18mm if you remove the light shield). Yes 12mm before anyone had one. It has treads for front filter and today you can put a filter in the rear with Haida rear lens mount. I put the Clear Night filter in the rear and use a CPL up front for fog, I do Milky Way on beaches along the ocean and even with clear sky there is always low fog. Yes f/4 but with a Sony or any digital camera f does not matter really. Back in the beginning with 500 rule it was a 30s capture for pinpoint stars.
Lastly it is very small compared to the 12-24mm f/4 or 2.8 how do feel putting the big lens on a pano rig. Also the big lens requires a upfront filter holder also the small 14mm f/1.8. And for the 6 mouths of the Milky War arc you will use a super wide for panos to get that super high arc even in July without having to do two rolls of shooting like the new 10mm f/2.8 for high up over your head stars. It has increased in cost my $100 but due to more APS-C cameras. Just think a lens made before the A7 models best for astro!! I have wondered why Sony has not made a 12mm prime for so small would be great out in the cold and darkness. Yes my 10mm f/2.8 is inbound right now so I can do arcs till the sun comes up.
Had this in my watch later list, and it came up without me realising it was coming.
Clear skies Alyn, you'll be missed dude.
Forget the 14mm 1.8. Get the 20mm 1.8 - can take filters and is just a nicer focal length.
I own both Sony 14 GM and the Sigma 14 DG DN as well as the older Sigma 14 1.8 Art. From my personal experience the Sigma 14 DG DN is a easy winner hands down. The 2/3 stop faster, the Manual focus lock, the ease of use lens heater, it just makes it a so much better lens for me. Yes heavy and big, but due to above mentioned reason i am mire than happy to carry it over the Sony. Same applied to their 20mm, i own both sony 20G and Sigma 20 dg dn and i use my Sigma a lot more than the 20G
Nice video !
Discovered lenstip website thanks to you, very very useful. Helping not succumb to buy the killer Sigma 40mm over my Tamron 35 f1.4. Not a game changer for the extra weight.
I had a hernia op at 34, and another at 71. Hope it went well. 👍
Nooo I was Wondering what happened to the star glow filter...really wanted one
Lots of great choices on E-mount these days, Viltrox 16mm f/1.8 is a great budget ultra wide too. Love what Sigma has bought to the table these last few years, really put Panasonic on the map for astro as most of their DN mirrorless glass is exceptional.
Viltrox 13mm f1,4 намного предпочтительнее и не по причине большей светосилы. Viltrox 13mm намного более оптически совершенный, он полностью рабочий с 1,4
Hey! What's the story with the StarGlow filter and Kase Filters (I think they were the parent company)?
Is there either a clip in H Alpha filter for a Sony A7RIV or screw in filters that fit the GM 24mm or the 24-70mm??
Alyn, have you ever tried old slr shooting on film on startracker?
Sample variation can be big game changer. A good reputation lens that gets just the worst type of variation/micro tilt/shift could have you end up with one or two corners where the coma/astigmatism performance is much worse. You can shoot test charts or infinity distance landscapes but would not notice this until you shot night sky on a tracker or with 200 rule etc. As a rule of thumb, wider and cheaper lenses but also the best performing lenses are hit worse by sample variation usually. Standard lenses are usually much safer but with wide & ultrawide lenses, one should beware always. Think 300$ Rokinon/Samyang 14mm 2.8 lens. High performance, cheap and ultrawide (if you get a good copy otherwise could be pretty average but still groundbreaking 10 years ago in its prime).
Awesome video, good to know I don’t necessarily need the Sony 24mm GM 😅. What top is that and where’d you get it? Also, speedy recovery mate!
Wise words
RIP I’ll miss ur videos 💔
I have tested both and decided to keep GM14/1.8. It's more versatile and agile. I had 14/1.4 for few week test period. If I would do more astro then possibly will get Sigma later. Im soon testing Sigma`s new Fisheye - that's totally different beast :)
Yeah the new fisheye has my interest too. Unlike the 14mm, it doesn't have any competition. It's a very unique lens.
This was all one long ad for MPB lol.... but it's ok cus I like and use them too haha. My main lenses are Sigma Art 35mm 1.4 and 24mm 1.4 but I'm 3 for 3 in getting good quality Rokinon/samyang lenses too. Got a decent 24 before upgrading to the art and a nice 14mm for fun and a great 85mm for pano and general. I've heard it can be hit and miss but so far, haven't missed. Good bang for your buck lenses really. For night photo, you have to use the manual fringe correction to remove the purple though, but other than that, decent all around...at least for secondary shots, casual users. It will take hundreds of shooting experience before someone can be held back by a rockinon/samyang... once you are, you'll know. If you don't understand how it's holding you back.... you're not there yet.
Hi Alyn, I wonder if you might consider doing a video on night-time/astro-blogging cameras specifically for video on a budget. The Sony you use sounds great, but are there any cheaper alternatives? Most videos on UA-cam are about the stills aspect, but I think quite a lot of people are interested in doing similar things to your blogs - for wildlife etc as well as astro.
There's no alternative to the a7S range
gonna try the Samyang 14mm 2.8 soon
How would the Laowa 15mm f2.0 compare to these 2? Thanks
Vale Alyn. You are missed
Can't remember but, did you test Sigmas 20 and 24mm f1.4's?
Lens quality also depends on what megapixel sensor used, example if you put it on A7SIII it seems very nice yea but compared then A7RIV the starquality may be a very different. I have example one Sony 1.4 24mm GM whose corners (astigmatism, coma, etc) is actualy very very poor on astromodified high megapixel sensor. Real quality of your lens cant hide behind big pixel cameras. ;)
I choose Sigma 105/ 1.4 and Sigma 40/1.4. Both are perfect.
Now I am curious about the Star glow filter story…
It’s funny, because I have released today a video comparing the Sony 14mm F1.8 against the Samyang 14mm F2.8 and there is also another trick to make a cheap lens perform good 😉
Do you think my new sony a6700 will be able to do astro photograpgy since I have heard aps-c cameras are not as good in low light as full frame
Все ерунда! Все камеры хороши! У профильных астрокамер размер матрицы еще меньше!
Главное отличие это размер пикселя. Более жирный пиксель прощает больше ошибок в ведении и позволяет делать большие выдержки.
Итоговой разницы вы все равно не заметите.
Снимайте на то, что у вас уже есть, набирайте опыта и наслаждайтесь полученным результатом!
Чистого вам неба!
Are you going to try the new laowa 10 mm 2.8?
nope
Great advice fella. However right now I'm desperately trying to combat my G.A.S. and buy nothing, it's harder than it sounds.
Hope you're doing well after your operation.
Get into vintage lenses, if you're not already. That way you can fulfill those needed very cheaply. :D There's some fun glass out there to play with.
@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism I've got a few Takumar lenses already. They are great but I find they produce odd spikes around bright stars.
Had the sigma, but swapped it out for the Sony. The Sony much better image quality, quicker / easier to focus and more balanced on camera.
That doesn't sound right.
Hello my dear friend, thank you for everything you have given me, you were too young, you have known me for 12 years, I am sorry if I have done anything wrong to you so far.
I watched your UA-cam reviews, and now I'm thousands of pounds lighter😂 It all turned out good mind😊👍
I wanted that filter so bad x rip
Alan better make his choice quick before the sky clears and the Stars come out looking for him.
RIP
Woops…the difference is two thirds of a stop not a third and that can’t be dismissed. Eg 13 sec on the Sigma for 20 sec on the Sony.
Gone too soon, had so much to give
Great Information and tips Alyn.....You look great, and I hope your Feeling Better after surgery Alyn. It takes awhile to get back into your grove. But, you look well on your way. I am a huge Ebay-aholic, and I have had hits and misses honestly over the years. I shoot both Daylight and Astrophotography, so I like Lenses that can serve both Disaplines if possible....Over the years I have learned who to buy from, and now I have had very good experiances. I am always on a budget, so I am very keen to get the best bang for the buck I can get. I am primarily a Canon Guy, but I have now dipped into the Sony Mirrorless Ecostructure, Loving the E-mount, and the Color science. I often find myself however, looking for 3rd party lenses to make up for the variance in Quality I find from the manufacturers, and just to save money. I Really like Sigma Lenses for my Astrophotography, I get what I am looking for 9 times out of 10. The Sony branded Zeiss Lenses I am very impressed with, just wish they weren't so ungodly expensive. Because of this I am often going for the cheaper Sigma lenses again. I know Sigma isn't perfect, and Variances in Manufacturing also creep in from time to time. To that end however, you right...The Lens has to suit your Style and what you shoot. Can't wait to see you back in the field again, and hope your recovery continues to be speedy. I am a UA-camr also and I proudly support your channel and really enjoy your content. Thank you for being Honest, forthright and Inspirational to all of us, It greatly helps.
It‘s a shame that lenstip doesn’t review Canon RF lenses.
Oh dang I didn't realise this!
I feel like this video was specifically designed and crafted just to post your link to your sponsor. Other than obvious reasons to choose a lens lol.
My main motivation for this video was to be able to paste the link to the tens of people who message me on a daily basis asking which lens they should buy or which lens they should choose.At least the sponsor is relevant and fits in with the content seamlessly. You want me to promote Raid Shadow Legends instead or something?
haha this is me right now, only canon
I've never found a lense cheaper on mpb . Unlike at / on Wex . Brilliant prices and exceptional quality .
I recently picked up a EF, Sigma 35mm 1.4 Art series .
That huge Sigma would not be worth to replace my 14GM. The Sigma performance is on par with 14GM though. Why would I have to carry the brick ?😂
You have to pay for Astrobin for searching by lens
MFT would fix all your hernia problems.
So dont watch this?
i have sony 20mm 1.8 its ok for milly way? :) anyone can send me simple tutorial how to stack tracked sky with foreground :(
A great review covering lens purchasing, Alyn. The real question that went unanswered - Nikon or Sony??!!
He clearly stated he was deciding between a Sony or a Sigma lens, not a Nikon or a Sigma lens.
You are correct!@@Warrior_Resisting_Colonialism
that will be a separate video