I actually blame first past the post for the lack of ideas at this point. It + billionnaire press + too much giving in to the banker class on unfettered capitalism = an incredible amount of inertia towards the status quo. Parties with a great idea do not get a look in, because if you're not a very broad church as a party you've got no chance. And what we need is for *parliament* to be a broad church, but the collective voices in it to be strong.
Despite my criticism of Rory being an entrenched Tory apologist he is a very very endearing person fo his humour integrity and humanity, and always someone I would listen to.
@@annettekearney9798he stated that when he was running as an independent for mayor of London, the polling showed that he dropped significantly in the polling if he would be liberal dem rather than independent.
You don't need to go to private school to learn debating skills. The grammar school I went to had an active debating society, which certainly taught me how to argue a case, although participation was not compulsory (and I didn't go into politics).
The UK left the EU as 1 of the big 3. It will return in the second group of countries like: Spain, Poland, Italy. The center of power in Europe is shifting eastwards where growth figures exceed those of China. Rory and Alistair briefly touched on this subject today but the UK is overall totally unaware of the consequences.
It is nonsense to suggest that the UK will not return as it is, one of the big 3 in the EU, also permanent member of the Security Council, in the G7 & G20, 6th or 7th largest economy in the world, head of the Commonwealth and leader in soft power
The LibDems have a 4 stage policy to get closer to Europe, ending with joining the Single Market. Labour's excellent Industrial Strategy will amount to little unless we join that.
There is this fringe block that allows economies to trade with the EU. Includes such countries such as Morocco, Egypt and Turkey and more. Can't remember what it is called.
I went for a read of bad resilience/Good resilience, and honestly I must say it doesn't much match local govt (at least my bit of it). Thought I'd do you a blow by blow - this is what 14 years of this government (with Worthy Contributions from Mrs Thatcher and Blair) have done to us:
Have a plan (not a strategy) and stick to it We haven’t had either in years, and the suggestion of it is enough to get you accused of being awkward, difficult, or ‘wanting everything sorted out before we start’
Ignore the really big risks Gosh yes. You should add ‘and make sure anyone who raises them is denounced as difficult, and when they become stressed accuse them of caring too much.
History is bunk “We are where we are”. Thanks Tony Blair you absolute cock womble. Why not invade a place without full throated UN support whilst you’re at it LOOK AT WHAT YOU DID TONY. ‘We are where we are’. Ye gods, the number of times that phrase has been thrown as me as an excuse to refuse to look backwards and learn.
The fox hunting on foot happens in the hills of mid Wales, such as around Builth Wells, by hill farmers, people of modest means. They wear normal outdoor clothing, put their sheep dogs into woods and areas to flush out foxes and drive them to a line of people with shot guns. The fox tries to sneak out running between the line in blind spots. They also put their terriers into fox holes to flush out the fox and wait to shoot it as it runs out. This can take hours, sometimes standing in snow. Shooting foxes means there are less to take their lambs, especially ailing ones. But they make a pastime of it, sometimes going before Sunday lunch roast and again afterwards.
Very disappointed that the question of democracy vs capitalism was given such short shrift. Surely you both realize that this issue is at the heart of the crisis of inequality and accountability. You should devote an entire podcast to examining this issue. If you can't, if it is just too difficult or you have nothing constructive to offer, don't mention it.
Sorry, but you really came to the wrong shop. It's like going into Greggs and asking for a pheasant sandwich - you're not going to get what you're looking for. These are two ex-politicians who are OK with at best, soft neoliberalism based on their track records. They're not academics, nor political economists or scientists. You don't have to be to be a politician.
I thought Orisy was one of the Utter Hebrides. Nice to hear the recognition of the difference between England and Scottish outlooks deriving from the Scottish Enlightenment.
@@BigHenFor I get it but it falls to politicians to navigate this problem so it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect them to have given it some serious thought.
Democracy (not capitalism) broke Britain with Brexit. Most UK capitalists love markets, so vehemently opposed the imposition of Brexit, to no avail. Brexit would never have happened if UK corporations had the power and influence they have in the USA. Oversimplified conclusion: democracy is broken in the UK/US, whereas capitalism works if benignly regulated and managed by the state for the greater good, vide Denmark/Norway etc.
Not really. You slipped by not comparing how democracy is practiced in the countries you mentioned. Comparative conclusions only work if you actually do the comparison. Your approach ignores issues like voting systems. Is it FPTP in those countries, or PR? How do their constitutions allocate power and accountability in government? In the economy? In society? In short, how effective and how responsive is their democracy in distributing power between the government and the governed?
@@BigHenFor I DID say “oversimplified”, obviously it’s a “UA-cam comment” not a manifesto or PhD. My point was there is nothing inherently wrong with Capitalism, providing you have the proper checks and balances. Whereas Democracy in the UK and US is so broken and degraded, that the electorate can often be manipulated and influenced by populism, (corporations US), culture wars, social media etc. to vote against their own best interests.
@@BigHenFor The question was, is Capitalism breaking Democracy ? In the example of Brexit, the answer is clearly no. Democracy in the guise of a simple binary vote yes/no vote, broke us away from the capitalist markets of the EU, much to the distress of most capitalists.
Re. Foot and mouth. I thought it was first detected in a slaughterhouse in Essex but the animal or animals came from further afield (not Kent, as I remember, anyway).
The more I listen the less I can stand Rory Stewart. I have yet to hear a single issue he is not at heart a Tory through and through on. His arrogance and his latent Imperialism bubbles up frequently. Good manners is only part of what makes someone Strangely I like Alistair more and more every episode. He really has grown and changed his thinking on many interesting issues.
I think the very fact he criticises the party says something. It is very hard for Tories to go against the Tory Party - witness Mrs May's inability to put country before party.
Bit harsh. No doubt there’s a whiff of empire about the man but by his words and deeds he’s shown he’s honest, decent and principled. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he returns to the Tory party at some point, and that the party, not to mention British politics, will benefit as a result.
I actually blame first past the post for the lack of ideas at this point. It + billionnaire press + too much giving in to the banker class on unfettered capitalism = an incredible amount of inertia towards the status quo.
Parties with a great idea do not get a look in, because if you're not a very broad church as a party you've got no chance.
And what we need is for *parliament* to be a broad church, but the collective voices in it to be strong.
Despite my criticism of Rory being an entrenched Tory apologist he is a very very endearing person fo his humour integrity and humanity, and always someone I would listen to.
He’s really too decent to be a Tory. Why on earth doesn’t he become a Lib Dem?
@@annettekearney9798he stated that when he was running as an independent for mayor of London, the polling showed that he dropped significantly in the polling if he would be liberal dem rather than independent.
You don't need to go to private school to learn debating skills. The grammar school I went to had an active debating society, which certainly taught me how to argue a case, although participation was not compulsory (and I didn't go into politics).
The UK left the EU as 1 of the big 3. It will return in the second group of countries like: Spain, Poland, Italy. The center of power in Europe is shifting eastwards where growth figures exceed those of China. Rory and Alistair briefly touched on this subject today but the UK is overall totally unaware of the consequences.
It is nonsense to suggest that the UK will not return as it is, one of the big 3 in the EU, also permanent member of the Security Council, in the G7 & G20, 6th or 7th largest economy in the world, head of the Commonwealth and leader in soft power
The LibDems have a 4 stage policy to get closer to Europe, ending with joining the Single Market. Labour's excellent Industrial Strategy will amount to little unless we join that.
There is this fringe block that allows economies to trade with the EU. Includes such countries such as Morocco, Egypt and Turkey and more. Can't remember what it is called.
Where do I get to see the Raworth interview?
Never let it be said Darren.B had an issue with accuracy....ahem 🤫
I went for a read of bad resilience/Good resilience, and honestly I must say it doesn't much match local govt (at least my bit of it). Thought I'd do you a blow by blow - this is what 14 years of this government (with Worthy Contributions from Mrs Thatcher and Blair) have done to us:
Have a plan (not a strategy) and stick to it
We haven’t had either in years, and the suggestion of it is enough to get you accused of being awkward, difficult, or ‘wanting everything sorted out before we start’
Take comfort from your risk register
Our what?
If in doubt, do nothing
Oh no no no: if in doubt do something, make sure it’s cheap and visible so you can say you tried.
Ignore the really big risks
Gosh yes. You should add ‘and make sure anyone who raises them is denounced as difficult, and when they become stressed accuse them of caring too much.
History is bunk
“We are where we are”. Thanks Tony Blair you absolute cock womble. Why not invade a place without full throated UN support whilst you’re at it LOOK AT WHAT YOU DID TONY. ‘We are where we are’. Ye gods, the number of times that phrase has been thrown as me as an excuse to refuse to look backwards and learn.
Re Happy News - Oh please not more nauseating media nose browning photos of the sainted Kate Wales.
The fox hunting on foot happens in the hills of mid Wales, such as around Builth Wells, by hill farmers, people of modest means. They wear normal outdoor clothing, put their sheep dogs into woods and areas to flush out foxes and drive them to a line of people with shot guns. The fox tries to sneak out running between the line in blind spots. They also put their terriers into fox holes to flush out the fox and wait to shoot it as it runs out. This can take hours, sometimes standing in snow. Shooting foxes means there are less to take their lambs, especially ailing ones. But they make a pastime of it, sometimes going before Sunday lunch roast and again afterwards.
Foxes raiding chicken coops too much too. If you get the right fox, it ends. Not a sport, a selective cull.
Very disappointed that the question of democracy vs capitalism was given such short shrift. Surely you both realize that this issue is at the heart of the crisis of inequality and accountability. You should devote an entire podcast to examining this issue. If you can't, if it is just too difficult or you have nothing constructive to offer, don't mention it.
Sorry, but you really came to the wrong shop. It's like going into Greggs and asking for a pheasant sandwich - you're not going to get what you're looking for. These are two ex-politicians who are OK with at best, soft neoliberalism based on their track records. They're not academics, nor political economists or scientists. You don't have to be to be a politician.
I thought Orisy was one of the Utter Hebrides.
Nice to hear the recognition of the difference between England and Scottish outlooks deriving from the Scottish Enlightenment.
@@BigHenFor I get it but it falls to politicians to navigate this problem so it doesn't seem unreasonable to expect them to have given it some serious thought.
Democracy (not capitalism) broke Britain with Brexit. Most UK capitalists love markets, so vehemently opposed the imposition of Brexit, to no avail. Brexit would never have happened if UK corporations had the power and influence they have in the USA. Oversimplified conclusion: democracy is broken in the UK/US, whereas capitalism works if benignly regulated and managed by the state for the greater good, vide Denmark/Norway etc.
Not really. You slipped by not comparing how democracy is practiced in the countries you mentioned. Comparative conclusions only work if you actually do the comparison. Your approach ignores issues like voting systems. Is it FPTP in those countries, or PR? How do their constitutions allocate power and accountability in government? In the economy? In society? In short, how effective and how responsive is their democracy in distributing power between the government and the governed?
@@BigHenFor I DID say “oversimplified”, obviously it’s a “UA-cam comment” not a manifesto or PhD. My point was there is nothing inherently wrong with Capitalism, providing you have the proper checks and balances. Whereas Democracy in the UK and US is so broken and degraded, that the electorate can often be manipulated and influenced by populism, (corporations US), culture wars, social media etc. to vote against their own best interests.
@@BigHenFor The question was, is Capitalism breaking Democracy ? In the example of Brexit, the answer is clearly no. Democracy in the guise of a simple binary vote yes/no vote, broke us away from the capitalist markets of the EU, much to the distress of most capitalists.
AC seems to live in a parallel universe. His recollections of his past NEVER agree with anyone else's....
"First We take Manhattan, then We Take Berlin" Bridging nations with German and British engineers. Windsor Protocal?
Isn't it Oratory?
Sophistry 🤔
Re. Foot and mouth. I thought it was first detected in a slaughterhouse in Essex but the animal or animals came from further afield (not Kent, as I remember, anyway).
Northumberland.
Bet Tory will start to communicate using Enigma machines soon.
And Alastair doing French poems, make sure CC translate captions is enablê
GCHQ and Jill Dando?
The more I listen the less I can stand Rory Stewart. I have yet to hear a single issue he is not at heart a Tory through and through on. His arrogance and his latent Imperialism bubbles up frequently. Good manners is only part of what makes someone Strangely I like Alistair more and more every episode. He really has grown and changed his thinking on many interesting issues.
Just keep Alastair from opening pub doors.
@@huwzebediahthomas9193 I think he has been dry for years.
I think the very fact he criticises the party says something. It is very hard for Tories to go against the Tory Party - witness Mrs May's inability to put country before party.
Bit harsh. No doubt there’s a whiff of empire about the man but by his words and deeds he’s shown he’s honest, decent and principled. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if he returns to the Tory party at some point, and that the party, not to mention British politics, will benefit as a result.
Anyone who believes so passionately about debt relief for poorer countries and aid is generally a decent human being. And Rory does.