All about the tone of the 660! I started digging the Fairchilds more once I adjusted the input and output FIRST with no compression to get the amount of tube saturation that I want.
Great to see another video like this. This plugin really sounds amazing when it is pushed a little harder, very happy with my purchase a couple of years back
Why? Plugin Alliance already has a great version. I was literally with Michael Brauer and he was using it on every single track 😂 UAD isn't all the best. Hell, some of the UAD sht is literally identical to what plugin alliance has (mainly bx plugins) but cost 8x more.
To my ears I like the “SSL Native Channel Strip 2”. I do agree, there are so many great emulations out there, I’m already invested in uad so I can’t wait for them to bring those to the native world as well.
@@Jordan-rb28 eh to each is own...Universal Audio are the only ones in the masses of peoples opinion including my own that keep a tight low end & emulate a hardware units transparent ability compared to its aggressively processed audio company rivals.....most engineers & content creator producers compare the quality of a plugin by using it against UAD as opposed to people who use UAD plugins comparing it to the hardware it self which i think is every bit of impressive lol
@@Jordan-rb28have and own all of plugin alliance plugins as well as uad, and no they don’t Sound nothing alike..stop the bs. They’re both good in their own way.. hardware is where you get a better “real” sound any damn way
If only people new how good your console is... I have used compressors before but none as easy and intuitive as it is. Many thanks for your great products.
das Ding klingt super ! der Leslie ist auch der Oberhammer ! was kommt als Nächstes ? und wann ? kann's kaum erwarten. vielleicht kommt bald was von MANLEY 😀😀😀
Thank you so much for this video. I just do voiceovers, so am trying to figure out how I can best apply the Fairchild to make my narration have the added velvety warmth and presence that this plug-in can bring. From what you mentioned, it sounds like the 660 would be best? Also, as I explore the settings in the 660, I found "Vocal Light Compression" as an option but don't know if that is the best one for my use. My question... could you please recommend what you think would be the best starting settings for spoken vocals/narration (and I can adjust from there)? Thank you in advance for any suggestions 🙏
You can use either. Start with the Vocal Light Compression preset, but then raise the SC filter to around 10-11 o'clock. This will make the comp less sensitive to low end and allow for smoother compression overall. And don't be afraid to turn up the Input Gain, this drives your signal into the model more and can result in pleasing saturation and tone enhancements. Hope this helps.
@@UniversalAudio oddly enough, I did everything you said, but started from the Rap vocal setting instead, with a few adjustments for my own voice, mic, and low speaking volume. I keep the processing effect light, but I think it is subtly noticeable and adds presence. Thanks again!
Definitely - each of those compressors have their own tone and response characteristics that will make them sound and behave differently from each other.
Great Video, thanks! I have an unrelated question. I am a brand new member to the UAD platform. I am wondering if I would be able to swap out one plugin for another by any chance? I thought I saw a list of plugins that UA allowed you to exchange somewhere online. Please help!
You should look at RMS level, not volume level. If compressed signal has the same RMS level as uncompressed signal, it will be perceived as louder at same volume. To correctly see this you have to gain stage signal, at around -18 RMS before it goes into emulation plug-ins.
When I use lat/vert mode, with Sidechain and controls unlinked, the input gains are still controlling the left and right channels, not just the mid and side. You can actually hear it doing that in this video. Is this normal? From what I understood it was supposed to be true mid side processing.
These units (and the plugin) are often used in Mastering chains for their beautiful color and tone and for controlling dynamics, but if you mean for the final, end of chain peak/brickwall limiter, no, it does not serve that function. You'll still want your digital limiter at the end of the chain.
Plus I dnt know why I cant have access to the Native versions of thesame plugins dat comes with the solo for free...getting tired of UAD even before I delve deep into the ecosystem
@@UniversalAudio I don't understand. I've only used plugins which allow me to select an input trigger source from my channels. Is there any video example?
Yes, the legacy can be thought of as "lite" versions since they do not have the end to end modeling that contains all the nonlinearities of the original hardware.
Bought apollo solo but it has been useless coz I cant use more than 2 or 3 plugin before DSP overload occur .lately been feeling like a waste of money on the solo..I hope this helps someone planning on buying solo thunderbolt
I don’t think the solo was meant to be used for mixing. I see it more for a mobile recording where you can use Unison while recording, but not really for using the plugins in your session, cuz yeah, not much DSP. I have a twin and I have to be very strategic with what plugins I use in my session. That’s the beauty of UAD now going native tho.
Sell it. I sold my Apollo Twin x Quad (and all the plugins). I then repurchased most of them from the original developers and no longer need to have an Apollo connected, or iLock, or internet... and I bought them for like half the price I sold my UA licences for. Add the cash I got for the Apollo and I made out like a bandit. Enjoying running as many as I want (no longer choked with Apollo DSP) and with the freedom of working anywhere with just my laptop.
My number one question is not how good it sounds, or if I can afford it, or how to use it. The only thing that would make me hesitate to pull the trigger on one of these is how much CPU and RAM does it consume. I'm running Logic on a small MacBook. if this plug in is a resource hog, I'm concerned about it slowing everything down or crashing. Nobody is mentioning what the computers requirements are to run this thing.
Cool thing is, you can demo it and try it on your system, in your mixes. Go here and click Try For Free. www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/compressors-limiters/fairchild-tube-limiter-collection.html
@@UniversalAudio thanks. I'm gonna try that. Every time I listen to "Revolver" I think of Fairchilds. I believe it really is the definitive album for showing off what those things can do. The drums on "Tomorrow Never Knows", the bass and horns on "Got To Get You Into My Life," " Taxman", all that stuff. No Fairchild, no "Revolver" "Paperback Writer" and "Rain" too.
A tone can't be "iconic." Only Imagery is iconic - i.e., a person or thing whose Image is famous. (the word Icon, in orginal Greek, Means image.) In addition to being the most overused word on UA-cam, "iconic" is also the most MISused. Misusers seem to think the word means simply "widely known," "instantly recognizable," "memorable," etc. But just as flavors, scents, ideas, emotions, bodily sensations, et al. can't be iconic, neither can Sounds (songs, beats, bass lines, "stuttering stomps," etc.). No one (hopefully) would ever think to speak of "iconic ice cream flavors," the "iconic smell of sulfur," Marx's "iconic theories," the "iconic bliss of first love," or the "iconic pain of a toothache." Misusers do seem to understand intuitively that Iconic has some inherent relation to the human sense of sight - to the exclusion of the other senses referenced above. For some reason, though, misusers appear to unconsciously stipulate a special exception for the sense of Hearing - so that, in their minds, "iconic' can properly apply to the products of precisely Two human senses, namely sights AND Sounds. This error has become rampant due to the UA-cam Feedback Loop, wherein video-makers parrot and propagate eachother's mistakes. Indeed, if the word meant what misusers seem to think it means, we could call Iconic's growing misuse an Iconic Linguistic Error.
Missing Matt, Drew, and Ben. Glad to see you dudes again.
UAD Plugins are definitely game changer, with them your mixes will never be the same as it used to
Keep making music 🎶 😊
Beautifully sounding! Would be great to see a behind the scenes on how these were modeled.
All about the tone of the 660! I started digging the Fairchilds more once I adjusted the input and output FIRST with no compression to get the amount of tube saturation that I want.
Great to see another video like this. This plugin really sounds amazing when it is pushed a little harder, very happy with my purchase a couple of years back
🥂
Can’t wait until the ssl4000e makes it to spark
Why? Plugin Alliance already has a great version. I was literally with Michael Brauer and he was using it on every single track 😂 UAD isn't all the best. Hell, some of the UAD sht is literally identical to what plugin alliance has (mainly bx plugins) but cost 8x more.
To my ears I like the “SSL Native Channel Strip 2”. I do agree, there are so many great emulations out there, I’m already invested in uad so I can’t wait for them to bring those to the native world as well.
@@Jordan-rb28 eh to each is own...Universal Audio are the only ones in the masses of peoples opinion including my own that keep a tight low end & emulate a hardware units transparent ability compared to its aggressively processed audio company rivals.....most engineers & content creator producers compare the quality of a plugin by using it against UAD as opposed to people who use UAD plugins comparing it to the hardware it self which i think is every bit of impressive lol
@@Jordan-rb28have and own all of plugin alliance plugins as well as uad, and no they don’t Sound nothing alike..stop the bs. They’re both good in their own way.. hardware is where you get a better “real” sound any damn way
It is released yesterday.
Fell in love with this, since i got it, now i wanna learn all it can do.
Klingt wirklich Hammer !! ich hau das Ding auf den Mix und dreh einfach den Output hoch --- WOW
We miss you guys!!! More video please. 🤓👊🏻
Yes! Been waiting for this one.
If only people new how good your console is... I have used compressors before but none as easy and intuitive as it is. Many thanks for your great products.
Awesome, you guys should do a UAD online school. People can get certified, haha. I'd sign up for sure
When are we going to have new plugins in spark? Please launch 33609, Manley stuff and capitol reverb 🙏 Great work with Spark!
Thank you, Fairchild got me the results for a DI fuzzt guitar rhythm track as well. 👏🏻👋🏼👋🏼
🥂
Please add gang control on the Studer (UADx) Version
Love you 🖤
They don’t love us…
Any chance of Capitol Chambers getting a native version?? Would love to see it 👍
I would pay big bucks for that.
I second this!
Doubt it those will probably come much later seems like they’re focused on getting their heritage plugins in native first
@@bco0t6 solid point! I hope the Helios will be next :)
@@martijnvandongen292 I can see the dbx the ua preamps maybe even the ssl bus comp/channel strip getting native versions soon
Greetings. Please make a console routing tutorial for apollo twin x usb
I tried and is just amazing 👏!
Thank you!
das Ding klingt super !
der Leslie ist auch der Oberhammer !
was kommt als Nächstes ?
und wann ?
kann's kaum erwarten.
vielleicht kommt bald was von MANLEY 😀😀😀
Thank you so much for this video. I just do voiceovers, so am trying to figure out how I can best apply the Fairchild to make my narration have the added velvety warmth and presence that this plug-in can bring. From what you mentioned, it sounds like the 660 would be best?
Also, as I explore the settings in the 660, I found "Vocal Light Compression" as an option but don't know if that is the best one for my use. My question... could you please recommend what you think would be the best starting settings for spoken vocals/narration (and I can adjust from there)? Thank you in advance for any suggestions 🙏
You can use either. Start with the Vocal Light Compression preset, but then raise the SC filter to around 10-11 o'clock. This will make the comp less sensitive to low end and allow for smoother compression overall. And don't be afraid to turn up the Input Gain, this drives your signal into the model more and can result in pleasing saturation and tone enhancements. Hope this helps.
@@UniversalAudio it does! Thank you so much for your swift and helpful reply!
Our pleasure.
@@UniversalAudio oddly enough, I did everything you said, but started from the Rap vocal setting instead, with a few adjustments for my own voice, mic, and low speaking volume. I keep the processing effect light, but I think it is subtly noticeable and adds presence. Thanks again!
Awesome!!!!! No rules!!!
Great video. Will this compressor have a different tonal quality than a LA 2A or 1176?
Definitely - each of those compressors have their own tone and response characteristics that will make them sound and behave differently from each other.
@@UniversalAudio Thank you. Will try the demo 👍🏼
So is UA going to fix the bug in the 670 that fails to saves settings when you close a session?
Great Video, thanks! I have an unrelated question. I am a brand new member to the UAD platform. I am wondering if I would be able to swap out one plugin for another by any chance? I thought I saw a list of plugins that UA allowed you to exchange somewhere online. Please help!
Thanks for reaching out, get in touch with Customer Support, they'll let you know what's possible. u.audio/support
Ich feier den 660 mehr auf den Drumbus! Problem? Oder ist der dafür nicht ausgelegt?
Drum bus is great here!!
Yes definitely on the drum bus
When showing bypassed and engaged A/B tests, please be sure to Volume Equalize the examples.
You should look at RMS level, not volume level. If compressed signal has the same RMS level as uncompressed signal, it will be perceived as louder at same volume.
To correctly see this you have to gain stage signal, at around -18 RMS before it goes into emulation plug-ins.
Oh noooooooo it's the volume matching police!
When I use lat/vert mode, with Sidechain and controls unlinked, the input gains are still controlling the left and right channels, not just the mid and side. You can actually hear it doing that in this video. Is this normal? From what I understood it was supposed to be true mid side processing.
Yes, this is normal. Use the Thresholds to apply the GR you need.
can this be also used for limiting in mastering?
These units (and the plugin) are often used in Mastering chains for their beautiful color and tone and for controlling dynamics, but if you mean for the final, end of chain peak/brickwall limiter, no, it does not serve that function. You'll still want your digital limiter at the end of the chain.
Plus I dnt know why I cant have access to the Native versions of thesame plugins dat comes with the solo for free...getting tired of UAD even before I delve deep into the ecosystem
If you upgrade to Analog Classics Pro, you'll get the MKII versions of the plugins AND it will trigger the free native versions.
@@UniversalAudio how do I go about the upgrade
www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/plug-in-bundles/analog-classics-pro-bundle.html
How do you target the different inputs to trigger the sidechain?
Unlink the controls.
@@UniversalAudio I don't understand. I've only used plugins which allow me to select an input trigger source from my channels. Is there any video example?
@@sekritskworl-sekrit_studios If you're referring to external side-chaining, it doesn't have that.
@@UniversalAudio Oh!
Thank you for the clarification.
Is there any difference than with Legacy Fairchilds that were included as a free plug in with my X8 ? are they " Lite " Versions ?
Yes, the legacy can be thought of as "lite" versions since they do not have the end to end modeling that contains all the nonlinearities of the original hardware.
@@UniversalAudio will we get the native legacy version soon?
@@histakes12 We never say never, but so far we've not done any legacy versions.
So what does the "BAL" screw do?
It adjusts the bias current balance of the circuit. Check out the manual for more details.
Bought apollo solo but it has been useless coz I cant use more than 2 or 3 plugin before DSP overload occur
.lately been feeling like a waste of money on the solo..I hope this helps someone planning on buying solo thunderbolt
I don’t think the solo was meant to be used for mixing. I see it more for a mobile recording where you can use Unison while recording, but not really for using the plugins in your session, cuz yeah, not much DSP. I have a twin and I have to be very strategic with what plugins I use in my session. That’s the beauty of UAD now going native tho.
Sell it. I sold my Apollo Twin x Quad (and all the plugins). I then repurchased most of them from the original developers and no longer need to have an Apollo connected, or iLock, or internet... and I bought them for like half the price I sold my UA licences for. Add the cash I got for the Apollo and I made out like a bandit. Enjoying running as many as I want (no longer choked with Apollo DSP) and with the freedom of working anywhere with just my laptop.
@@deepvan9796 valid
At least the ones on Spark has extended that limit a bit
lat is mid signal and vert is side???? hows that make sense, i gotta read the manual
No 660 on spark?
You get both.
My number one question is not how good it sounds, or if I can afford it, or how to use it. The only thing that would make me hesitate to pull the trigger on one of these is how much CPU and RAM does it consume. I'm running Logic on a small MacBook. if this plug in is a resource hog, I'm concerned about it slowing everything down or crashing. Nobody is mentioning what the computers requirements are to run this thing.
Cool thing is, you can demo it and try it on your system, in your mixes. Go here and click Try For Free. www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/compressors-limiters/fairchild-tube-limiter-collection.html
@@UniversalAudio thanks. I'm gonna try that.
Every time I listen to "Revolver" I think of Fairchilds. I believe it really is the definitive album for showing off what those things can do. The drums on "Tomorrow Never Knows", the bass and horns on "Got To Get You Into My Life," " Taxman", all that stuff. No Fairchild, no "Revolver" "Paperback Writer" and "Rain" too.
Nunca le veo las diferencias a estas cosas, y tan caro que vale
Las diferencias son audibles, no visibles. Entrena tu oído, y no tus ojos 😉
Perfect vocals for a demo. Not so good, or so bad it's distracting.
im getting that horrible over ducking envelope sound.
Maybe use the high pass. Should alleviate some of the ducking.
@@intheblink Im talking about the this video
AUTO GAIN PLEASE!
A tone can't be "iconic." Only Imagery is iconic - i.e., a person or thing whose Image is famous. (the word Icon, in orginal Greek, Means image.)
In addition to being the most overused word on UA-cam, "iconic" is also the most MISused. Misusers seem to think the word means simply "widely known," "instantly recognizable," "memorable," etc. But just as flavors, scents, ideas, emotions, bodily sensations, et al. can't be iconic, neither can Sounds (songs, beats, bass lines, "stuttering stomps," etc.).
No one (hopefully) would ever think to speak of "iconic ice cream flavors," the "iconic smell of sulfur," Marx's "iconic theories," the "iconic bliss of first love," or the "iconic pain of a toothache."
Misusers do seem to understand intuitively that Iconic has some inherent relation to the human sense of sight - to the exclusion of the other senses referenced above. For some reason, though, misusers appear to unconsciously stipulate a special exception for the sense of Hearing - so that, in their minds, "iconic' can properly apply to the products of precisely Two human senses, namely sights AND Sounds.
This error has become rampant due to the UA-cam Feedback Loop, wherein video-makers parrot and propagate eachother's mistakes. Indeed, if the word meant what misusers seem to think it means, we could call Iconic's growing misuse an Iconic Linguistic Error.
Nah
Mix:analog
i.e, use the real deal people
UA RIP like Waves
Will we see Cooper Time Cube on Spark?
Spark will grow for sure, think 1-2 plugins every 4-6 weeks-ish. But there aren't any specifics available beyond that.
@@UniversalAudio distressor native version when? 😊