Awesome this the best build I have come across in a long time , i ran the apocalypse like I was playing on survivor , melts bosses and everything that comes your way , and it's amazing in co op , thanks for the build just praying they don't nerf some of the rings ,classes ,and amulets that go with it .
Man whoever that weirdo is he sure sounds super attractive and awesome. You should thank him for joining you for a video! Great playing with you as always Nacho, and thanks for having me!
I can't wait to try this build, now that the ENC is fixed. Don't sleep on the Timekeeper's jewel. I spec my status builds for damage over time and it just melts.
Two of my favorite creators in one video? What a great day to have eyes. And an even better day to have all the items necessary for this build. Played it a few hours tonight and it's hella fun.
I think sparkfire with overflow + fetid wounds would round this build out properly instead of pulse rifle but that's just my personal preference. Love the video format and shout out to random _spectator for explaining his thought process behind the build. it was cool and interesting
As I understand it, the issue with Sparkfire for ENC is that the ENC detonation will always be based on its (pretty small) burn DoT rather than the much larger DoT from Fetid Wounds.
So, I did a quick test, and it turns out that this isn't actually true. I did a test with the ENC where I put Fetid Wounds on both the Pulse Rifle and the Sparkfire Shotgun, then shot at a dummy *next to* the one in my "lane", to isolate just the explosion damage. It was the same damage number with both guns. Just to make sure it was a valid test, I took Fetid Wounds off the Sparkfire and shot again. That time, it did less damage. So it *seems* like ENC is taking the biggest DoT for its explosion damage when multiple DoTs are applied at once. Although I think I was misrepresenting the reason for not using Sparkfire with ENC. The bigger issue is that if you score a body shot, you'll get the small explosion and then put ENC on cooldown for 5s. Whereas with another weapon like the Pulse Rifle or even Ford's Scattergun, you don't have to worry about ever putting ENC on cooldown from a weak explosion.
@@Tobascodagama Exactly my issue. It's not that you *can't* use it. Just that if you screw up and put your ability on cooldown you lose alot of value compared to a proper burst. At least with an accidental fetid wound proc you still get 1k. Sparkfire is a great weapon, but accidental procs happens, and I'd rather them not be heartbreaking
On some builds obviously im always switching things up, but i use band of the fanatic and time keepers jewel with eruption builds. Time keepers jewel gives you some duration back and it's plenty with eruption builds.
Interesting to see ENC's cooldown is enemy based not user based. Awesome video as always Nacho, and interesting hearing the comments from the buildmaker themselves too!
I've got a similar build, but I use World's Edge, and my tainted blade does 12,000. Just swing, and every enemy explodes. I wanted to put blood jewel on for an extra large explosion on the sword, but that ring STILL doesn't really work properly for me.
ENC can only proc an explosion from one status at a time, hence the 5 second cooldown. So stacking multiple DoTs on a single action *does not* get you a bigger boom. Blood Jewel is probably fine, haven't noticed any bugs using it myself. Just a low damage tick
The issue is just before this last patch it was *really* bad. The explosion missing all the DoT scaling was a huge shame, and I'm glad that's finally fixed so I can return to my favorite item. Energized was amazing on release, even if bugged to be inconsistent, and I'm glad we finally got a patch where it works right and is good
I wanted to let you know, I tested out the Huntress Spear and it worked with the Fetid Blade melee mutator and triggered the ENC explosion. If it was bugged it doesn't seem to be anymore. If I'm missing something my bad, I only tested this in the training dummies and saw it work every time. Great build love it!
I think that what causes the explosion is the innate acid damage the huntress spear does. To confirm it just remove the tainted blade mutator from it and see if it will still explode.
Yeah upon further inspection it seems like the issue is the fact that the Huntress Spear already does corrosive damage, so it seems like the ENC proc is random between the massive corrosive damage you get from the mutator Fetid Blade and the smaller corrosive damage from the weapon itself. But I haven't put extensive time into testing this all out yet. I don't have the Krell Axe yet, so I can't compare the weapons yet.@@Mr-Nacho420
Question: Since it is "All about the DOTs!", would not ring: Shadow of Misery (+15% status effect damage) instead of the Burden of Destroyer be "better"?
The burden of the destroyer buffs the elemental damage and then the explosive damage from the enc. it also boosts the gun damage you do so it’s more efficient but the shadow of misery is a really good ring too
Ahh ok I see. Well, I am not a ”builder” that you people. So I miss things. 😊 But I reacted when he said in the video ”I am all about the dots.” But now I understand that ring aint only for guns. Thanks for a great channel and the feedback. ❤
Energized Neck Coil finally works as written?? When I apply a status effect to a mob, every single mob in like 50 meters of area gets it, when I have this necklace on. I would say it is still pretty bugged.
Does this actually work? I tried making a similar build yesterday, but every time I put the timekeeper’s ring on I couldn’t proc the explosion from the amulet. :/
Wouldn't summoner make an ideal 2nd archetype due to the new buff to explosive damage and mod power generation? It's a 35% increase to mod, skill and explosive damage along with +5% crit chance for the same
It would be decent but alchemist actually double dips. It has a unique 25% bonus damage to all so it increases the dot damage of which ENC scales and then it buffs 25% of the ENC explosion too! :)
@@Mr-Nacho420 Very cool. Thanks. I'll fiddle around with it. I just absolutely destroyed nightweaver on apocalypse with the ritualist/summoner setup so if Alc is even stronger, this is going to be very silly. E: Update. Just used the alc version of this build vs Venom on Apoc and he died in sub 2 minutes with me just running away the whole time. This is absolutely hilarious.
ENC vs. Death-Soaked Idol vs. Sinister Idol vs. Chains of Amplification for DoT? Is ENC the best? I’ve liked ENC better than DSI or CoA but only recently got ST.
ENC is great only for those big numbers on explosion, Sinister Totem is best when you apply ton of dots and want them to do the work and Chains/Ravagers medalion are good whenever you run miasma and still want to do gun damage :)
Death Soaked is pretty awkward to use, Sinister Totem is pretty great for passive DoT tick, which is what I used to play. Chains of Amplification isn't... bad per se, but Ravager's Mark exists and is just better. ENC is by far the best DPS out of the set rn though, if you play actively
Nah nah. As you can even see in the video, you *don't* have to be Ritualist primary. If you swap archetypes around, and throw heavier armor on, you can be pretty damn tanky on top of all the damage. Alch prime perk goes hard, and I'm even using it in the video
Status duration actually depends a lot on what you're doing. If you're able to reproc the status effects often, IMO it's fine to go Band of the Fanatic, but if you want peace of mind, Timekeeper's Jewel's + Affliction is consistent. EDIT: DERP, duration affects ENC damage
I do like Fanatic though, especially with red ring and firestorm/witchfire which easily maintain themselves? Slap on feedback and just watch enemies melt away
@@randomspectator4417 The devs saying spectral blade's whirlwind attack is not an aoe and therefore shouldn't benefit from aoe increase trait is just really strange though Because it quite literally is aoe. I mean just look at it But it's understandable that they would do something about it, because it was op It's just odd that at the same time they allow something as op as tainted blade + neck coil
@@hiyukelavie2396 the official dev statement on spectral is that it's the same thing as World's Edge and Atom Splitter. It's just supposed to extend your swing. And nothing increases those. I get your frustration, but the logic is fair enough. But calling this OP seems silly. Even at the peak of what someone can do with this, you could just beat it with a bow. I guess this doesn't require a weakspot, but it's got a cooldown as a hard limiter. Twas never about strength
@@randomspectator4417 It's op relative to how lazy it allows the player to be As you've pointed out yourself, the great thing about this build (and dot builds in this game in general) is the fire-and-forget nature of it. Just ping the target to apply the dot, that's pretty much it Other DPS builds are usually more involved, like having to land weakspot crits consistently for example, so it makes sense for the player to be rewarded for it Don't get me wrong, I love lazy builds, it's why I love the world's edge + tainted blade + coil combo so much - but that doesn't mean I can't recognize that it's op
Awesome this the best build I have come across in a long time , i ran the apocalypse like I was playing on survivor , melts bosses and everything that comes your way , and it's amazing in co op , thanks for the build just praying they don't nerf some of the rings ,classes ,and amulets that go with it .
Man whoever that weirdo is he sure sounds super attractive and awesome. You should thank him for joining you for a video!
Great playing with you as always Nacho, and thanks for having me!
It was tons of fun and I hope we can do that again at some point :)
@@Mr-Nacho420 I'd best get cooking then, whatever shall we make spicy next?
@@randomspectator4417 I have a few ideas. Cant wait to make them good :D
I can't wait to try this build, now that the ENC is fixed. Don't sleep on the Timekeeper's jewel. I spec my status builds for damage over time and it just melts.
Two of my favorite creators in one video? What a great day to have eyes. And an even better day to have all the items necessary for this build. Played it a few hours tonight and it's hella fun.
Thanks for checking it out! We had a lot of fun making this vid :)
I think sparkfire with overflow + fetid wounds would round this build out properly instead of pulse rifle but that's just my personal preference. Love the video format and shout out to random _spectator for explaining his thought process behind the build. it was cool and interesting
As I understand it, the issue with Sparkfire for ENC is that the ENC detonation will always be based on its (pretty small) burn DoT rather than the much larger DoT from Fetid Wounds.
So, I did a quick test, and it turns out that this isn't actually true. I did a test with the ENC where I put Fetid Wounds on both the Pulse Rifle and the Sparkfire Shotgun, then shot at a dummy *next to* the one in my "lane", to isolate just the explosion damage. It was the same damage number with both guns. Just to make sure it was a valid test, I took Fetid Wounds off the Sparkfire and shot again. That time, it did less damage.
So it *seems* like ENC is taking the biggest DoT for its explosion damage when multiple DoTs are applied at once.
Although I think I was misrepresenting the reason for not using Sparkfire with ENC. The bigger issue is that if you score a body shot, you'll get the small explosion and then put ENC on cooldown for 5s. Whereas with another weapon like the Pulse Rifle or even Ford's Scattergun, you don't have to worry about ever putting ENC on cooldown from a weak explosion.
@@Tobascodagama Huh. Interesting insight since I didn't know about this sparkfire + ENC interaction. Thanks for the info 🙂
Tobasco is right. Sparkfire is small boom
@@Tobascodagama Exactly my issue. It's not that you *can't* use it. Just that if you screw up and put your ability on cooldown you lose alot of value compared to a proper burst. At least with an accidental fetid wound proc you still get 1k. Sparkfire is a great weapon, but accidental procs happens, and I'd rather them not be heartbreaking
On some builds obviously im always switching things up, but i use band of the fanatic and time keepers jewel with eruption builds. Time keepers jewel gives you some duration back and it's plenty with eruption builds.
Interesting to see ENC's cooldown is enemy based not user based. Awesome video as always Nacho, and interesting hearing the comments from the buildmaker themselves too!
Yea the build maker had some nice insight into this, I’m glad we did this :)
I've got a similar build, but I use World's Edge, and my tainted blade does 12,000. Just swing, and every enemy explodes. I wanted to put blood jewel on for an extra large explosion on the sword, but that ring STILL doesn't really work properly for me.
ENC can only proc an explosion from one status at a time, hence the 5 second cooldown. So stacking multiple DoTs on a single action *does not* get you a bigger boom. Blood Jewel is probably fine, haven't noticed any bugs using it myself. Just a low damage tick
Can't wait for the next weekend! 😁
ENC i been using that for clearing whole room with chain reactions since day one! Even on my exp farm spot in Losom!
The issue is just before this last patch it was *really* bad. The explosion missing all the DoT scaling was a huge shame, and I'm glad that's finally fixed so I can return to my favorite item. Energized was amazing on release, even if bugged to be inconsistent, and I'm glad we finally got a patch where it works right and is good
Tbh I love this format of showing other peoples builds! Maybe someday I can show my pyromancer build
Sure thing! If you want to share your build make sure to reach out to me on discord! :)
@@Mr-Nacho420 alright bet!
ENC is good again? Gonna have to revisit Ritualist
It's great!
I wanted to let you know, I tested out the Huntress Spear and it worked with the Fetid Blade melee mutator and triggered the ENC explosion. If it was bugged it doesn't seem to be anymore. If I'm missing something my bad, I only tested this in the training dummies and saw it work every time. Great build love it!
I think that what causes the explosion is the innate acid damage the huntress spear does. To confirm it just remove the tainted blade mutator from it and see if it will still explode.
Yeah upon further inspection it seems like the issue is the fact that the Huntress Spear already does corrosive damage, so it seems like the ENC proc is random between the massive corrosive damage you get from the mutator Fetid Blade and the smaller corrosive damage from the weapon itself. But I haven't put extensive time into testing this all out yet. I don't have the Krell Axe yet, so I can't compare the weapons yet.@@Mr-Nacho420
@Mr. Nacho I know it's unrelated but have u tried out corrupted arbalest and bore?
Not yet! Is it any good?
Question: Since it is "All about the DOTs!", would not ring: Shadow of Misery (+15% status effect damage) instead of the Burden of Destroyer be "better"?
The burden of the destroyer buffs the elemental damage and then the explosive damage from the enc. it also boosts the gun damage you do so it’s more efficient but the shadow of misery is a really good ring too
Ahh ok I see. Well, I am not a ”builder” that you people. So I miss things. 😊
But I reacted when he said in the video ”I am all about the dots.”
But now I understand that ring aint only for guns.
Thanks for a great channel and the feedback. ❤
Energized Neck Coil finally works as written?? When I apply a status effect to a mob, every single mob in like 50 meters of area gets it, when I have this necklace on. I would say it is still pretty bugged.
Do you have ritualist as your primary archetype?
@@Mr-Nacho420 yes, but when the necklace is equiped, the mob does not need to die, to spread the dots, and the range is ridiculously big.
does this work still with the new update?
None of the mechanics were changed but the damage is quite a bit lower. Still good though :)
Ok, you can now actually do huntress spear status build. Yeah, baby!
Unfortunately right now it doesn’t work with tainted blade but once it’s fixed it will be great!
@@Mr-Nacho420 You can do it with stormbringer though (which I still did not get as a drop, lol)
Does this actually work? I tried making a similar build yesterday, but every time I put the timekeeper’s ring on I couldn’t proc the explosion from the amulet. :/
Were you in multiplayer by any chance? It can get weird if you have bad connection
I was playing solo, but I don’t think I was playing in offline mode. I guess I’ll have to do some testing! Thanks for the reply and nice video!
How do you get that much HP? I have vigor maxed with the mythic relic fragment but still cap at 149.5 HP.
Probably the mudtooth tonic. It gives quite a bit of hp :)
Ty
Wouldn't summoner make an ideal 2nd archetype due to the new buff to explosive damage and mod power generation? It's a 35% increase to mod, skill and explosive damage along with +5% crit chance for the same
It would be decent but alchemist actually double dips. It has a unique 25% bonus damage to all so it increases the dot damage of which ENC scales and then it buffs 25% of the ENC explosion too! :)
@@Mr-Nacho420 Very cool. Thanks. I'll fiddle around with it. I just absolutely destroyed nightweaver on apocalypse with the ritualist/summoner setup so if Alc is even stronger, this is going to be very silly.
E: Update. Just used the alc version of this build vs Venom on Apoc and he died in sub 2 minutes with me just running away the whole time. This is absolutely hilarious.
Nice 👍
ENC vs. Death-Soaked Idol vs. Sinister Idol vs. Chains of Amplification for DoT? Is ENC the best? I’ve liked ENC better than DSI or CoA but only recently got ST.
ENC is great only for those big numbers on explosion, Sinister Totem is best when you apply ton of dots and want them to do the work and Chains/Ravagers medalion are good whenever you run miasma and still want to do gun damage :)
Death Soaked is pretty awkward to use, Sinister Totem is pretty great for passive DoT tick, which is what I used to play. Chains of Amplification isn't... bad per se, but Ravager's Mark exists and is just better. ENC is by far the best DPS out of the set rn though, if you play actively
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This is the perfect definition of a glass cannon.... this is going to get a lot of people kill and frustrated. To which he's own I suppose
Yea it’s a damage build. In this game if you want damage you gotta be squishy :)
Nah nah. As you can even see in the video, you *don't* have to be Ritualist primary. If you swap archetypes around, and throw heavier armor on, you can be pretty damn tanky on top of all the damage. Alch prime perk goes hard, and I'm even using it in the video
Is that Phemeto???
Nope. That is my friend random spectator!
Gonna make me cry :(
Status duration actually depends a lot on what you're doing. If you're able to reproc the status effects often, IMO it's fine to go Band of the Fanatic, but if you want peace of mind, Timekeeper's Jewel's + Affliction is consistent.
EDIT: DERP, duration affects ENC damage
Agreed, it does depend on how often you re-apply DoT's
Did... did you not pay attention man? Duration = beeger Energized damage silly head. It's just bad here, not bad in general
@@randomspectator4417 Oops, sorry, my bad, in this context it's just better
I do like Fanatic though, especially with red ring and firestorm/witchfire which easily maintain themselves? Slap on feedback and just watch enemies melt away
What's new in the game, I have not played since January
Quite a lot! Tons of balance changes and some new weapons!
@@Mr-Nacho420Thanks, I'll check it out.
Interesting how they nerfed spectral blade but continue to allow dots (in this case tainted blade) to be super op
I would rather ask why us momentum still allowed. It's extremely OP :D
Well what's funny is *both* of these changes were bug fixes lol, Not supposed to be nerfs or buffs, just items not working as they were supposed to
@@randomspectator4417 The devs saying spectral blade's whirlwind attack is not an aoe and therefore shouldn't benefit from aoe increase trait is just really strange though
Because it quite literally is aoe. I mean just look at it
But it's understandable that they would do something about it, because it was op
It's just odd that at the same time they allow something as op as tainted blade + neck coil
@@hiyukelavie2396 the official dev statement on spectral is that it's the same thing as World's Edge and Atom Splitter. It's just supposed to extend your swing. And nothing increases those. I get your frustration, but the logic is fair enough. But calling this OP seems silly. Even at the peak of what someone can do with this, you could just beat it with a bow. I guess this doesn't require a weakspot, but it's got a cooldown as a hard limiter. Twas never about strength
@@randomspectator4417 It's op relative to how lazy it allows the player to be
As you've pointed out yourself, the great thing about this build (and dot builds in this game in general) is the fire-and-forget nature of it. Just ping the target to apply the dot, that's pretty much it
Other DPS builds are usually more involved, like having to land weakspot crits consistently for example, so it makes sense for the player to be rewarded for it
Don't get me wrong, I love lazy builds, it's why I love the world's edge + tainted blade + coil combo so much - but that doesn't mean I can't recognize that it's op
I can't understand why Alchemist, I'm sure there's something better that will boost this amazing build. Engineer...? ,
Engineer boosts ranged and skill damage but it doesn’t affect miasma or enc :(