FIRST OF THIS YEARS BULLS OFF TO THE FACTORY | HOW DO THEY COMPARE?!
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- In today's video, the first of this years bulls are off to the factory along with 2 bullocks. We start the video loading them for the factory and then sit down and have a look at the statistics and how they killed out and compare. Do they live up to expectations?!
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Good video very honest with weights grades etc that’s what makes this channel stand out from the other Irish feeders fair play farmer Phil keep doing your thing 👍
Well done, as a slaughter man and a butcher, them animals are in great shape. Interesting to see the carcasses reaction to different types of food. Don’t be disappointed in the killouts or the grades. They did exceptionally well for the breed etc etc
What difference in the actual meat do the grades make, I understand say the fat score but the letter grade how does that affect the marketability of the meat?
@@jeffjefferson3364 the Grade is given by how big the good parts of the animal are because they are the most valuable
the system is called EUROP (E is best and P is worst)
Good video Phil. Try putting a few 45Kg tractor leaf weights on the scales and slide them along the floor. With regards to cattle bullying, try dehorning all the calves for their safety and your own. U don't realise how big cattle are until u start handling them
I tell you something, farmers do a power of work with no end in sight.. I have a good neighbor who is a small dairy farmer, and each time I pass the yard I hear him on the tractor or in the parlour with the radio on.. Hes some Man like.. Everyone is at home watching telly or out doing activities, and the neighbor is up there in the yard, tearing away come rain wind or sun !!
Mental health is very important like.. I called into him on Newyears day just to say hello to him.. He mightn't have seen anyone at all over the Christmas... I always think of him and wonder how hes doing, and of course I spare a thought for him when I pull the milk out for a cup of tea... More power to the Farmers... We'd all be in big trouble if there was less of ye..
Really interesting video Phil! Thanks for all the work you and Liv put into it. Great to hear you have hope for the beef prices and the new year. 👍🙌
Love the bit of maths along with the animals. Great condition on those big bad Bulls,good luck with the rest of them Phil. 👍
Had the same issue with a platform scales that we had couldn’t get consistent weights. We made up a crate with weigh cells from same company and reused the clock made a big difference same weight every time we check with tractor weight. We are fattening limousin bulls here their killout % would be 60 to 63 under 16mths up to 450 kg. Interesting videos you are making keep it up👍from Wexford
Graham in Wexford: I was in Wexford in Hilton Head, SC, this past week. The weather was beautiful. You can imigane what a shock it was to see the flooding that you had. Hope you all are dry, or dryer, and safe. Thanks for suggesting this method of calibrating his scale (s) so there is a truer reading for extimates.
thats what real cattle are capable of doing .probably 2kg lw /day equals 1.2kg carcase wt daily . 4.61 for u plus is 5.53 euro per day to cover costs and profit margin . weight gain is king
Thanks for honest review that's what makes you stand out
Why is this man not at 200k subscribers + he surely deserves it folks
Very nice to see the Norwegian Red has come across the Northern Sea :) Interesting too see, I'm planning to start farming again in a couple of years, and I'm curious in the beef industry. We had 14 (!) dairy Norwegian Red's when my dad run the farm until 10 years ago, but thinking of building a new barn and go with the beef first :)
@@DirtIndustry that's for sure, 30 cows is better than 100 cattle
All very interesting you look after the welfare of your piggies.Farmer Phil and Liv work well together 😉. Will be watching later.💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪☺️☺️
Very good video Phil was waiting on it thanks ☺️
Great video Phil great looking animals best of luck with everything god bless 🙏🇮🇪
Great video Phil some savage cattle there thanks for taking the time to explain it all very interesting
Very impressive excel skills Phil, you could get a job as an accountant with the fancy index match formula 👍
Great video Phil your cattle done good keep up the great work 👌
Great video again Phil and great Bulls.
Great video farmer Phil keep up the good work 👍👍👍🤣🤣🤣
Have to say, highlight of the video was seeing the way you've got the spreadsheets layed out and I can see now how handy it'd make it for comparing results, year on year
Very good video Phil
Phil, if you are seeing consistently that when the first cows are removed to final finish that the others then come on soo much - then you need to rethink your feeding setup. The question is how can you change your setup to ensure all cows have access to adequate feed to finish off. Time is money, so having cows being held back by others who eat their share - needs to be resolved. The quicker you are finished, the more cost effective and profitable the process is.
Perhaps look at a new feeding barrier - similar to what Tom has just installed in his new shed or having less cows housed together.
If you do the same thing over and over ....you will only get the same result over and over, so without change the same will happen again next year.
It's worth trying something new to see if you can improve.
There's not many farms in Ireland that have space for every animal to eat all at the same time, the best thing to do is group by size but then you come into space issues. It's far from simple and building a new shed or getting new barriers is expensive.....its hard to no what to do especially when you're used to a system which is working or has worked in the past.
@@wallm1206 that is the problem over crowding!! All cattle in a pen should have enough feeding space to feed at the one time as simple as that !!
@@dannyjones7181 no you do not need every animal feeding at the same time that's just stupid......if you keep enough food infront of them at all times there won't be this big rush up to eat all at once it's fairly simple if you know what you're talking about!!!!
@@wallm1206 it looks like you have it all worked out fair play to you but I think differently so we will agree to disagree on this one 👍
we feed TMR (total mixed ration) so in theory every mouthfull from the 1st to the last should be the same and the cattle are never without food. i think its down to a bit of bullying in the pens that make the difference
I feed fr and you need 2 feed them more protein if you want 2get them into heavier weights try a few pens they need 1kg of peas a day
Grate video Phil is your scale certify true and accurate ? Here in the USA we have state people who will come and certify the scale to be accurate. It was a grate video the bull's done well. And I can understand what you say when you are getting paid by weight the scale has to be accurate. Iam sure the factory scale is true and accurate.It makes things even if yours is to ! SEE YOU IN THE NEXT ONE . WE LOVE TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING . AND WE LIKE TO SEE THINGS GO GOOD FOR YOU .
I am in the UK and scales here only have be certified if they are used for a financial transaction or linked to health and safety ,that kind of thing ,probably the same in Ireland.
Bro keep up the good work
Thanks Phil, very honest and informative video
Great video Phil keep up the great work and happy new year to you and Livy and all your family in 2022 👌🤟👍🐄🐄🐄🚜🚜🚜
hey phil great video, interesting data showing the lightest weanlings did the best in the shed, i have always believed in getting the meal into them as young as possible, in november they get 3kg, december 2kg, january 1kg its works out the same as 2kg a day over the winter but i think front loading is better
Excellent video Phil 🐄
From my experience Norwegian red do better than the plain friesian but they seem to be a bit more flighty but I'd say they can be bought for around the same price as calves
There will be some lovely fillet steaks of them boys, been well fed up and well looked after, good job Phil
Good video Phil all that data has to help you making decisions moving forward 👍
Hey Phil, I'm not a farmer so can you explain the scoring o vs p. 2=/+ etc and ko%? Maybe a see if you could get a tour of the abattoir to see the grading in action? Love the videos thanks for sharing
Could ya mak a short vid explainin the grade and score. It gets a tad confusing tryin to remember it all
Great video you should get snap latch for the back of crush gate much easier and safer
If birds were a problem I used to feed the cattle in the evening I found it helped
Stick a weight on the scales and calibrate. Should tell you very fast if there is a problem.
Do you have a check weight? For every other scales, there is always a check weight. Maybe weigh a tractor tire at a neighbor's scale and compare it to what it weighs on your scale? Nice work, anyways and Happy New Years.
Bag of nuts do the same and u know the weight
Great vid Phil
Big aul bulls fair play
How is there weights so bad for there age
We where TB testing today
Happy new year phil
Great video again. Phil and liv.u know better next time when u fix ur scales. 👌👍
cattle can loose between 2 to 4 % of there liveweight in transport and standing in lairage usually makes a difference when iam working out my own cattles killout
Norwegian reds are the best cross breed in my experience. they should nearly get the same price as Angus or Hereford as calves. Kept one back last year as he wasn't making any more than the Holsteins and he's a smasher. The couple of females I have milk well enough too. Underrated breed.
How are the jersey boys doing. Is there many of them left? Will you be getting more this year?
Great video, really interesting statistics. Only way to beat the starlings Phil is feed your meal separate from the silage and feed it after dark .
they are a curse
That's the only way, feed at night .
@@FARMERPHIL3690 Phil have you tried tte falconer idea. It's well worth a go, it's a fairly common pass time for a lot of people now. Should be easy enough to find someone local to you with birds.Flying a Harris hawk a few times a week should make an impact
@@FARMERPHIL3690 accidental arrival of a hungry feral cat cleared everything that was here, she died a year ago and they are starting to creep back.in
@@FARMERPHIL3690 I farm we farm is using a radio to keep birds away was talking about on one of is youtube video's happy new year
that is a cracking jersey cross bull!
Well done to all on getting good healthy Irish beef out the gap.
Poor but spirted attitude 🤣
Brilliant stats very interesting
Very interesting video lad hopefully the beef will be good this year cost be up alot priced milk poweder today scary prices
Good video very interesting hope prices are good for you
My Red Cross steers go really well, but not as well as the fleckvieh cross. Holstein and jersey content really reduces their beef potential. Good weights though.
Good video
Well phil now a bout them starling why dont ye shoot 1 then hang it up above the trough we did that with crows and ill tell ya theres not 1 crow in sight now
Greavt vid👍
its illegal to shoot starlets
@@FARMERPHIL3690 ah sure you know what they say, nothings illegal until your caught 😉
There might be stones under the scales
Test the scales with your own weight Phil
The problem seems to be the weighting mechanism underneath the platform with cattle moving and jumping it seems to cause problems with it!
Did ye pull out the 165 yet
when I had dairy bulls for breeding for slaughter, the goal was at least 350 kg slaughter weight and they could almost never get them over O + in classification 🙄. if they did not go up to 400kg carcass weight or more then they usually went up a class. you would probably wait another 3 months before slaughtering them
once they go over 24 months they go over age and we take a hit in the price
Interesting stats Phil, definitely get the scales refurbed/fix those legs. If off level can be hit and miss, your weights will be up and down, maybe 90% accurate.
Glad to see you're happy with results, it's been some time since I was in a beef factory but difference between the grades is fractional and tbh, in a blind taste test who knows different! fat is good indicator that next batch will do v.well for you though I hope.
Could you calibrate the scales with a half tonne bag of fertiliser or tractor weights or something?
im not sure but well start by taking it out and giving it a deep clean and check the wires for damage
@@FARMERPHIL3690 I have an digital scales here for lambs and I test it every time using a half hundred weight (father Phil will know what that is)….it gives you confidence every time you use it and its surprising how often it needs to be calibrated !
Nice T shirt 🚜🤠
Why don't the bulls feed because of the starlings? Or is it just they're eating all the barley wheat etc from the mix
The birds poo into their feed along with picking out the meal
Good weights for the type of cattle but have u figures on cost per kilo a day starlings are problem because of easy excess to food that's just the way it is
Question is Phil did they leave any money ....ur spreadsheet has alot of useless info on it..in beef farming its costs sales profit ???....some of them were hitting 3 year old that's an awful long keep....u might be better of keeping less quality animals and finishing/moving on quicker
they left money yes more than any other year, the 2 bullocks were part of an experiment to see if it was better to squeeze the lighter calves and give them an extra year and it isnt worth it
@@FARMERPHIL3690 your dead weight av is 269 kg at 24 mths for your first pick . this is a disaster. there is no possibility of any profit on this load . these type cattle are so inefficient at converting feed to beef that the price per kg will never cover costs even when the next price rise comes . it does not matter that you get free calves .
@@sucklerbeefdiehard6476 I’ve my costings done and the best bull left me 550€ profit
Hi Phil did ever try contential bulls ? A friend of my,s recently sold 16 months bull at market average weigh 780 kilo. They where feed thompson gold plus bull nuts there daily weigh gain was between 1.5 till 1.8 daily ...
never tried contentials to expensive to buy
Uk?
@@ritchiemullins6384 yes uk..
@@FARMERPHIL3690 in beef farming you would keep half the cattle you feed if you knew what cattle to keep .....some you win the other,s 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😫😫😫😫
Anyone find it hardship to load young cattle on to a lorry?
When I send Norwegian red I get 53-55%, so it sounds normal.
Getting the shed ready early on is handy Phil.😂😂😂
You could have left them 3 more weeks . What do you think 🤔
Longer there kept the more there costing tho so it's hard to know would they make a whole lot more
i could of done but in 3 weeks time ive bulls going over age and if theres a hiccup and the factory will only take a few i run the risk of having bulls going over age. once i get the fat on them and there over 500kg away they go
Are the grades done on the EUROP scale?
Can you do bar charts , averages etc on Herdwatch package?
No Herdwatch just do lists
Feeding the algorithm
If you put a bag of nuts on the scales and you’ll get a rough idea of how much its out.
Big change from 5 our 6 years ago. We couldn't get read bulls at 24 months to factory for bull beef. The factory where not buying them.
We don't need to see the prices lad. Nobodies business only yours. Between the "ok" beef price and having your own meal
we can all massage the figures but just because the feed is homegrown does not mean it cheaper than bought in feed especially as phil has a lot of leased land to pay for and only getting average yields compared to farms in southern counties
Where did they go. To lochel factory our a other. Is the longford factory still going
the factory in longford is long gone, they went to a factory in meath
Why don't you sell the hefers for breeding?
wont get enough for them
@@FARMERPHIL3690 You would then be self sufficient if you were to breed with the heifers as I thought that your farm was a dairy and beef farm. This would then make you save money as you do not haveto buy in milk for the calves?
Do you bring tham to ballduff liffy meats
Did you Get the 0 rings for the massey yet
Didnt way great not bad bulls tho
Maybe castrate them Phil and leave them till nearly 36months less intensive but may need more shed space is the downfall
You should stand up on the scale yourself and you will have a fair idea if its reading right or get a couple 100 weights and see what it reads
No harm but I'd do something about all that standing water in that yard.
Great cattle there phil. Very interesting to get the stats. Would it not be easier for ye and save an awful lot of hassle to buy calves off milk or weanlings?
its more expensive to buy weaned calves and they are harder to get
Go charolais org limousine Phil, I could never make money out of cattle until I started buying 500kg bullocks from kerry and clare and finishing them at 24 months grading mostly U's . This year they left €550 a head in 6 months. Net.
too much money tied up in stock for our liking
@@FARMERPHIL3690 the frx have a reputation of being hard to make money from and you are clearly disproving that, is the cost day one to buy a hereford x calf enough to kill the profit or do u have stats on them?
@@pterkelly9279 basically yes ive done the stats and id usually make 80€ a head more on a frx over a hex or aax but in a tough year which is easier to sell?
I'd say spend less time on UA-cam and dehorn them as calves Phil. Statistics are great and everything but buying cheap calves that dairy lads don't want isn't exactly a good business model for producing quality Irish beef. Good channel though and keep up the good work .
They gave you a bad grade Phil
That’s what you have to take from the factory 😞I wonder would they have done any better in the sale yard !🤔
Pure crooks they are bastards
very poor cattle grade bad .fact of life . what grade would you put on them ?
What other grade can you expect for holstein or jersey🤷♂️they are the worst grading cattle
@@JamesOBrien2253 why do you make this comment . i am sure if you were factory buyer they would be r plus . get real and study the difference between beef cattle and dairy rubbish that are given away for free
Interesting how 'slaughterhouse' has become 'factory'. It sounds so much more... financial.🤔
It’s always been known as a factory here in Ireland
Sorry NICE animals
Get a lend of someone else's weighing scales and then you will know for sure
First
You never said what they made
i didnt because we havent got the price back the joys of sending them over the holiday period
Some fellas would ask ya when ya shit last!
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Bunch of dopes!!!!
They b better gone to Gaddafi's country as stores what a load of shite
I thought he had the pigs in the shed were ya were raring 7 calfs when ya were 12 unless you made that video a few weeks ago and then wait a wee while an the post that video
The bulls went New Year’s Eve the pigs were moved New Year’s Day
No bother phil
Very technical 😂😂
Great video Phil.