i remember Yak-15 being able to fly perfectly and even roll and lower gear if you overspeed broke wings, you could sneak on players thinking you were dead but you flew just like new
I use this technique in 9.0 with the Mig-17AS because when it counts me as dead and i can still fly i sneak into the enemy airbase without getting shot down by AA
What I love about Gaijin damage m,odel is the fact that a missing wing, represented by black colour on the schematic in the corner generates EXTREME drag, more than a damaged, but attached wing. Till recently, missing a wing made you spin in the wrong direction. Gaijin cares very little for aerodynamics for a company making flight sim games.
wt isn't a simulator even if it has mode called simulator, along the lines of sim-cade, whilst I do agree models can be fixed it just comes down to the players and chances are if they fix it more than 90% would complain because they lack braincells to fly well
Iirc it was a bug, they had a bug a few years ago (which made me pause for a year out of hate) where a black wing root made the plane completely uncontrollable. For example if you were in a dive with a plane completely fine and got a black wing root you were destined to crash and ther ewas nothing you could do about it. They fixed it and a few patches back brought it back in. Not to such a extreme but still enough so that a Jet that can go Mach 2 with AB wont get above 900kph with black wing roots.
The funniest thing I've discovered with the borked damage models is that you can fly the MiG23BN without wings at all. I've done this twice in actual matches. You somehow still have a good amount of control and can even generate a small amount of lift. Of course, you have to be going fast and I'm not sure you could even land it though.
I was flying Spitfire mk. I once, got dived on by a Bf-109E-1 I didn't see, was peppered by his guns for a solid second for absolutely 0 damage whatsoever, all his hits just sparked lmao
The biggest culprit is mouse aim, since it flies your plane for you, and generally does a million times better than a human can ever hope to. That is, a human might be able to recover some (maybe all!) of these planes, but the instructor is so good that it's utterly trivial to fly a plane with half its wing area gone. In some cases, it remains a threat in a dogfight..
Mouse aim has the superior reaction time, but balanced the plane far worse than a normal person. It will leave a plane hanging at up to 45 degrees, when trimming your plane can balance it fully
Ikr lol I use mouse joystick instead (no money for real joystick basically), and I have a somewhat more realistically, hard time keeping it in the air with half a wing, and gotta fly full speed the whole time. Landing is an insane feat like that, but it's fun. Meanwhile when I was using mouse aim: this video each time
I landed a Yak-9T without one or both wings a couple of times. I usually break them on overload because of a deep skill issue, and the key to stabilised flight is 500+ km/h
Start with basics - if it was with mouseaim then you didn't fly and you didn't land. You pointed your mouse and instructor did all the hard work for you.
@@JimmySaulGoodmanMcGill1960 joystick fanboy? It is only a tool which allows players to experience airplanes controls as close to reality as possible. I don't think anyone buys a joystick just for having a joystick and stares at it lol. Even 30 euro joystick is enough for start - less than premium airplanes in this game and can be used in other flight/space simulators. It allows you to actually fly the airplane in the most skill demanding mode in WT - SB. But there is a learning/skill threshold to jump over, which most players are not able to.
occasionally I fly out the javelin and because it's early jet BR there's always a good chance bombers will drop their first load and then just spend the entire 20mins remaining in the match camping the airfield. i wait for them to start circling their airfield, pull a few negative Gs to wing-rip crash, and because enemy SAMs don't register dead planes, i spend a couple minutes strafing their airfield, purging the game of campers while they seethe and cope in chat
the instructor makes surviving these crashes so easy, if you've played sim you know that it really doesnt take much to turn a plane into a brick unless you have SAS
reminds me when first jets came out....Mig 15 with properly broken wings was supersonic because of drag loss, still pretty much usable, plus invisible :D
This is not bad damage model but too good instructor, making constant corrections real time and basically fullproof easy mode flight for anything not SB in this game.
So many times ive flown completely wrecked planes and other times more or less fine planes werent controlable Gaijin truly knows their damage models :))))
Kiedyś leciałem Jakiem 1 i mi skrzydła oderwało z powodu przekroczenia dopuszczalnej prędkości na autostradzie i prawie na lotnisko doleciałem ale gra się skończyła . Mam nagrane. Tak poza tym to patrząc na Twoje 50k subów to jesteś najpopularniejszym jutuberem z łatandów w Polsce
the 3d instructor helps a lot with keeping control of a damaged plane. Automatic trim and control of the remaining surfaces to keep the reticle as close to centered to point of aim as possible.
I will always recall the F6F which--as of my last playing WT maybe 2 years ago--did not have automatic prop pitch or any ability to alter the fuel mix using MEC, in spite of the massive red fuel mix knob and prop pitch controls that were visible in the cockpit. That, and shark force. Who didn't love shark force?
If you have it you should play the itallian ariete, such a fun jet at 9.3 especially it being a sub sonic jet at that br, but it still claps the checks of the enemy super sonic planes.
Best moment I've had is in Sim in my B17 for Operation Valkyri. A 50mm Me 410 nailed my fuselage right behind the ball turret and the whole tail comes off (the way I notice this before going into gunner mode is I start to nose down and can't pitch up). I had to fly just off flaps and engine power and I still managed to bomb the objective with the formation and make it to the end of the match
To be totally honest, the Premium Ki 43 II (For Japan, not U.S.) does not mouse control well. I do not know if the plane just is really bad at rolling over and turning at speed, but I think that it is just a really bad mouse control flight model. It can be really damaging in a turn fight because it will try to roll the least efficient way and sometimes will even just try to go back to straight and level.
I remember you use to be be able to break wings on Wyvern by going overspeed in a dive and still have fairly good control as a dart that somehow still few
Jak przyziemisz bez kółek na yak-28 i otworzysz spadochron manualnie to pod koniec chamowania zaczniesz się cofać jak wychylisz i będziesz trzymać ster kierunku w jedną stronę. Taka ciekawostka
The jaguar E is really buggy, sometimes you can still fly and you got the '' you will leave your aircraft in 15sec '' and sometimes you have a tail cut but you're not considered as dead and you're not leaving the plane
The ho 229 used to be utterly broken like this you could have an entire wing shot off and still ge able to dogfight like new once revenge killed an a28 for killing me like that in a ho 229 when that thing was like 20,000 to repair it was utterly broken. Thankfully/sadly now the 229 is much fairer on the whole damage thing which I agree with but I miss my stupid tank wooden dogfighting with half a wing thing
So, the thing a lot of people don't realize about planes is that you can, in fact, make banking turns without ailerons. Rolling without turning is quite a bit harder though.
some aircraft are meant to be hardy some are not Gaijin needs to figure out the accuracy of what can fly without what, i can't believe i have a twin boom plane where if i snap 1 1/2 wing tips it's in a death spiral, but you got planes flying with less wing than if i ripped off my wings to the booms.
Planes that actually have a history of losing key critical parts and being able to fly to a degree and in some cases even land: *Literally uncontrollable the second they are even damaged let alone lose said component* Meanwhile Planes that have no history of ever even once losing a key critical part and being somewhat controllable nor landing or anything else later on: *Looses multiple at the same time which should unbalance it and cause it to crash and yet nothing happens* Like bruh look at that first plane, Not only is one half of a wing gone but the other wing is missing it's wing tip as well. Completely unstable on both flight terrains. Yet it flies as if nothing happened.
So I take it I'm not the only one that wants just a little more realism in "realistic" game modes. I mean ffs, how does plane roll or maintain lift with both wings cut in half!?
Bruh one time I remember I was in a spitfire Mk-V C trop and I got my entire rudder, and right elevator destroyed by a Su-6, but I somehow managed to get back to base with some struggle, cuz the plane was acting up
Gaijin doesn't know what a damage model is. You're plane is either made of titanium or it's a piece of wet tissue paper
yes, indeed, I am a plane
As a plane, I confirm this is true
Once shit a Yak-3 4 times with the P-63's 37mm cannon, the thing still managed to out turn me and kill me, then fly off like nothing happened
@@pipopoikapelaa5468 same but thing that eat my 37mm is premium P-47 and he eat like 5 of canon bullet like it just ordinary 7.7mm
meanwhile my b29 keeps getting one tapped by 7mm in the tail, sending it to brazil.
i remember Yak-15 being able to fly perfectly and even roll and lower gear if you overspeed broke wings, you could sneak on players thinking you were dead but you flew just like new
Well yesterday a Yak15 took a headon 1000kg bomb from me at 800kph and survived
I once lost a wingtip while fighting an he162 in my yak15p, unfortunately for him, yaks only need one.
I use this technique in 9.0 with the Mig-17AS because when it counts me as dead and i can still fly i sneak into the enemy airbase without getting shot down by AA
happened with multiple planes
What I love about Gaijin damage m,odel is the fact that a missing wing, represented by black colour on the schematic in the corner generates EXTREME drag, more than a damaged, but attached wing.
Till recently, missing a wing made you spin in the wrong direction.
Gaijin cares very little for aerodynamics for a company making flight sim games.
wt isn't a simulator even if it has mode called simulator, along the lines of sim-cade, whilst I do agree models can be fixed it just comes down to the players and chances are if they fix it more than 90% would complain because they lack braincells to fly well
What flight sims? :D
Iirc it was a bug, they had a bug a few years ago (which made me pause for a year out of hate) where a black wing root made the plane completely uncontrollable. For example if you were in a dive with a plane completely fine and got a black wing root you were destined to crash and ther ewas nothing you could do about it. They fixed it and a few patches back brought it back in. Not to such a extreme but still enough so that a Jet that can go Mach 2 with AB wont get above 900kph with black wing roots.
Император не гордиться тобой 😡
The funniest thing I've discovered with the borked damage models is that you can fly the MiG23BN without wings at all. I've done this twice in actual matches. You somehow still have a good amount of control and can even generate a small amount of lift. Of course, you have to be going fast and I'm not sure you could even land it though.
if you can't land then it doesn't count, most planes will do the same
mig23 tail can help with roll hence why it works
I remember mig 17 u could rip both wingtip and still land
@@harryqiddel1247 most planes can do that provided that there is still some wing left and that have enough speed
@@VivyX2 pretty sure it’s due to the instructor correcting the hell out of everything
Let's not forget that one 7.7mm or one 12.7mm bullet that clips your fuselage can break your plane in half
I was flying Spitfire mk. I once, got dived on by a Bf-109E-1 I didn't see, was peppered by his guns for a solid second for absolutely 0 damage whatsoever, all his hits just sparked lmao
Kinda understandable if it's HE. The 12.7, at least.
yes, it looks very normal to see how a piece of engine without wings flies without any difficulty
A real pilot can fly anything meant to fly and with some difficulty...
The biggest culprit is mouse aim, since it flies your plane for you, and generally does a million times better than a human can ever hope to. That is, a human might be able to recover some (maybe all!) of these planes, but the instructor is so good that it's utterly trivial to fly a plane with half its wing area gone. In some cases, it remains a threat in a dogfight..
Eh..
Mouse aim has the superior reaction time, but balanced the plane far worse than a normal person. It will leave a plane hanging at up to 45 degrees, when trimming your plane can balance it fully
Ikr lol I use mouse joystick instead (no money for real joystick basically), and I have a somewhat more realistically, hard time keeping it in the air with half a wing, and gotta fly full speed the whole time. Landing is an insane feat like that, but it's fun.
Meanwhile when I was using mouse aim:
this video each time
I landed a Yak-9T without one or both wings a couple of times. I usually break them on overload because of a deep skill issue, and the key to stabilised flight is 500+ km/h
>skill issue
>lands a plane without wings
@@uncannysnake but it's kinda easy, just don't turn much
Start with basics - if it was with mouseaim then you didn't fly and you didn't land. You pointed your mouse and instructor did all the hard work for you.
@@Sputniksim if you're such a joystick fanboy go play DCS. I'm not paying 150+ euro just to play a p2w game
@@JimmySaulGoodmanMcGill1960 joystick fanboy? It is only a tool which allows players to experience airplanes controls as close to reality as possible. I don't think anyone buys a joystick just for having a joystick and stares at it lol. Even 30 euro joystick is enough for start - less than premium airplanes in this game and can be used in other flight/space simulators. It allows you to actually fly the airplane in the most skill demanding mode in WT - SB. But there is a learning/skill threshold to jump over, which most players are not able to.
This bring me to the one time I lost an entire wing in a spitfire and proceeded to secure 3 kills. We won the match and I was alive till the very end
occasionally I fly out the javelin and because it's early jet BR there's always a good chance bombers will drop their first load and then just spend the entire 20mins remaining in the match camping the airfield. i wait for them to start circling their airfield, pull a few negative Gs to wing-rip crash, and because enemy SAMs don't register dead planes, i spend a couple minutes strafing their airfield, purging the game of campers while they seethe and cope in chat
the instructor makes surviving these crashes so easy, if you've played sim you know that it really doesnt take much to turn a plane into a brick unless you have SAS
reminds me when first jets came out....Mig 15 with properly broken wings was supersonic because of drag loss, still pretty much usable, plus invisible :D
This is not bad damage model but too good instructor, making constant corrections real time and basically fullproof easy mode flight for anything not SB in this game.
Glad to know someone else just messes around in test flights doing dumb crap instead of actually “playing the game”
That's the trash internet issue
War Thunder moment
PTDRRR
4:16
Polish noises
So many times ive flown completely wrecked planes and other times more or less fine planes werent controlable Gaijin truly knows their damage models :))))
The j29 can sometimes tank a direct hit from r60’s and fly ok, but it’s a tough aircraft already
I once lost one elevator, one wing and the entire rudder in the j29, still landed it and went on to win the match.
Wings are just there for aesthetical reasons.
Otherwise you wouldn't be able to tell them apart from submarines.
Kiedyś leciałem Jakiem 1 i mi skrzydła oderwało z powodu przekroczenia dopuszczalnej prędkości na autostradzie i prawie na lotnisko doleciałem ale gra się skończyła . Mam nagrane. Tak poza tym to patrząc na Twoje 50k subów to jesteś najpopularniejszym jutuberem z łatandów w Polsce
the 3d instructor helps a lot with keeping control of a damaged plane. Automatic trim and control of the remaining surfaces to keep the reticle as close to centered to point of aim as possible.
Bro just turned that bv into a normal plane
Me going to land a plane: Gaijin, I need a landing gear!
Gaijin: What gear?
the damage model of your liver will disappear soon™️, so please make the damn video starring fc20bis and top tier
This is fine: the plane with both wings missing.
I will always recall the F6F which--as of my last playing WT maybe 2 years ago--did not have automatic prop pitch or any ability to alter the fuel mix using MEC, in spite of the massive red fuel mix knob and prop pitch controls that were visible in the cockpit.
That, and shark force. Who didn't love shark force?
Magic comrade)))
War Thunder to Physics - I don't know you and i don't care to know you.
no tak.. straszdziernik się zaczyna, więc Smigol postanawia nas postraszyć i polatać szkieletami xD
imagine if war thunder had il2 damage models
That crash at 0:55 was indeed very cool.
im not quite sure what i was expecting clicking on this video but not something this great for sure
3:24 bruh 6th army is everywhere
If you have it you should play the itallian ariete, such a fun jet at 9.3 especially it being a sub sonic jet at that br, but it still claps the checks of the enemy super sonic planes.
Best moment I've had is in Sim in my B17 for Operation Valkyri. A 50mm Me 410 nailed my fuselage right behind the ball turret and the whole tail comes off (the way I notice this before going into gunner mode is I start to nose down and can't pitch up). I had to fly just off flaps and engine power and I still managed to bomb the objective with the formation and make it to the end of the match
first polish war thunder player ive seen on youtube recomended
Ah yes drifting a star fighter and an il 28. Absolutely realistic
That FlightModel is brilliant!
You can use ailerons even without it.
0:05 my son you were suppossed to be the ammo.
How's the Ta flying ? "Sheer will and german bias"
I once flied J21A-1 and a friend's plane's "rotor hit my tail really slow super slow" and then my whole plane exploded... and his rotor was fine.
that f4d1 wing snap has killed me so many times
Sometimes a ripped wingtip could send you into a flatspin, but then 1 whole wing and a half gone could keep the plane flying
YOU'VE GOT A HOLE IN YOUR RIGHT WING! 0:08
To be totally honest, the Premium Ki 43 II (For Japan, not U.S.) does not mouse control well. I do not know if the plane just is really bad at rolling over and turning at speed, but I think that it is just a really bad mouse control flight model. It can be really damaging in a turn fight because it will try to roll the least efficient way and sometimes will even just try to go back to straight and level.
I sure do love making steep turns without ailerons
Me:can’t land a fully ok plane one carrier you: LANDS PLANE WITH NO WING ON CARRIER PERFECTLEY
The me264 still has ailerons with both wingtips gone. @Smegol Time
I remember you use to be be able to break wings on Wyvern by going overspeed in a dive and still have fairly good control as a dart that somehow still few
1:20 that's just weight reduction
Honestly quite incredible
God the harrier looks beautiful
Jak przyziemisz bez kółek na yak-28 i otworzysz spadochron manualnie to pod koniec chamowania zaczniesz się cofać jak wychylisz i będziesz trzymać ster kierunku w jedną stronę.
Taka ciekawostka
the yak-28 sliding is how i stop that thing when landing in air RB.
Casually rolls with no means of doing so
Woah. That harrier takeoff. Was impressive.
"You got a hole in your Left wing!"
Video #17 of asking Smigol to play the Javelin
Mans put the
**vertical**
In VTOL
The jaguar E is really buggy, sometimes you can still fly and you got the '' you will leave your aircraft in 15sec '' and sometimes you have a tail cut but you're not considered as dead and you're not leaving the plane
Back in early stage of the game the wings could be cut at any point
That would be cool
The ho 229 used to be utterly broken like this you could have an entire wing shot off and still ge able to dogfight like new once revenge killed an a28 for killing me like that in a ho 229 when that thing was like 20,000 to repair it was utterly broken.
Thankfully/sadly now the 229 is much fairer on the whole damage thing which I agree with but I miss my stupid tank wooden dogfighting with half a wing thing
0:56 a normal lucky day in warthunder
B R U U U U U U H . exe
Yeah.I remmeber how i been shoted in TRB but when i land on field i was repaired and ready to back in battle xD
I remember the good old days when the Do-335 was literally indestructible
How the starfighters were created
I actually used to rip my wings in the 188 or 288 and they could still bomb a base and maybe land. Bo fighter interferences tho!
shell be right, nothing my mechanic cant fix in 3 seconds
So, the thing a lot of people don't realize about planes is that you can, in fact, make banking turns without ailerons. Rolling without turning is quite a bit harder though.
sturmovik lookin lit
some aircraft are meant to be hardy some are not Gaijin needs to figure out the accuracy of what can fly without what, i can't believe i have a twin boom plane where if i snap 1 1/2 wing tips it's in a death spiral, but you got planes flying with less wing than if i ripped off my wings to the booms.
Aaaah shiddd, here we go again 😎
Lądowanie 10/10
I miss being able to break off both wings on my pe8 just after the engines without it counting as a death. it flys faster without them
One time my plane flew without any wings
This song reminds me of a van Dam movie when he’s training, that’s my childhood
with how the BV155 was flying, i've gotten a kill like that once
Вот за это я и люблю людей из Польши - они всегда найдут весёлые штуки :D
2:51 pro takeoff
Kilkadziesiąt lat temu to tak się grało w war thundera ua-cam.com/video/av5TmF0spuI/v-deo.html
Apropo modeli uszkodzeń hehehe
^(kiedy B-29?)
Planes that actually have a history of losing key critical parts and being able to fly to a degree and in some cases even land: *Literally uncontrollable the second they are even damaged let alone lose said component*
Meanwhile Planes that have no history of ever even once losing a key critical part and being somewhat controllable nor landing or anything else later on: *Looses multiple at the same time which should unbalance it and cause it to crash and yet nothing happens*
Like bruh look at that first plane, Not only is one half of a wing gone but the other wing is missing it's wing tip as well. Completely unstable on both flight terrains. Yet it flies as if nothing happened.
‘If it flys it can land’ -Me 2022
So I take it I'm not the only one that wants just a little more realism in "realistic" game modes. I mean ffs, how does plane roll or maintain lift with both wings cut in half!?
rolls with the rudder, maintains lift because even half wings can do that given the right shape
a fighter can pull multiple gs in a dogfight, pulling just 1g to stay in the air is easy enough
Bruh one time I remember I was in a spitfire Mk-V C trop and I got my entire rudder, and right elevator destroyed by a Su-6, but I somehow managed to get back to base with some struggle, cuz the plane was acting up
If you think that is wake you should see biplanes. Got rammed In to and lost both wings but arryed on flying no problem while the other guy exploded.
I landed the SU-25 with no tail lmao. Video footage. some of these flight models are completely broke
And then you have the A2d-1 or F8F-1 amily where you cant even roll becaus on pixel of you wing is orange
Im sorry, but did I just see a piece of the fuselage come out even though its still there?
Do y’all remember back in the day u would purposely rip the wing tips off a mig 15 bis to go faster?
Done the same thing in a spitfire, easily landed it and went on to get more kills
I know spitfires have wonky damage models. half your wing missing no problem just fly back to base, just the tip nope you’re in a flat spin
0:07 bro missed the target
i remember when i was test driving the su25k i crashed onto a tree, did a little spin in the air and it did not do any damage
2:36. and that my friend. is how to land
2:34 honestly i dont know how u didnt explode 🤣
queue a video of il-2s damage model to show what a good one looks like?
1:40
i haven't been to warthunder in a year, nor am I a ww2 fanatic, so could someone please tell me what this aircraft is?
BV 155, new battlepass reward, funni ultra high alt German prop
@@thevenomguy1215 what are the pods on the wings for?
@@kaiburns4257 Those are radiators.
Where the Saber at bruv?!?!?!