Dang I really liked the background music. What was it? It wasn't in the description, although I understand how content creators feel about not letting others use music they found first... ...
@@goatman9894 what i usually do is record the audio first, edit it, import it in my video editing software, then add in music and turn down/up the volume if needed.
@@thegreyspectre9838 hey whoah, let’s not be too generous here. We can offer them some scotch tape covered in fingerprints on the sticky side so it barely works anymore.
In the sane timeline, it's the other way around. The legitimate content creators can use the legal and technical terms in their work, and the videos like "omg boyz this nose candy tho!!" are demonetized. 🤯
Theres a Mayday/Air Crash Investigation episode on this including interview with Greg Feith, who was the NTSB guy, who finally got to go on the ill fated expedition. It was amazing, all they had to go through, and even then 25-30 years later his utter frustration with, what he felt was deliberate sabotaging of their attempt at investigation, was very obvious. He also said, that he had tried repeatedly to get a 2nd expedition approved, since the 1st expedition was so disastrous, but he was denied every time. He was certain, that all their "bad luck" had been some1 deliberately making sure, they wouldnt get to do an actual investigation.
If Feith was part of an official NTSB investigation, why did the NTSB not publish any official report? Is there an NTSB policy which states that only fully completed, successful investigations are reported? I don't believe so and I couldn't find any evidence there is.
The amount of Cocaine smuggled through Eastern AL cited here is peanuts compared to what the Nicaraguan Contras smuggled into the USA in the 1980's under the protection of the CIA. Read "Dark Alliance" by Gary Webb to find out the details of how the CIA was behind the Crack Cocaine Epidemic. The CIA was not directly involved but they "ran interference" for the Contras who used the proceeds to fund their attempt at a counter-revolution in Nicaragua. The Contras brought MANY, MANY Tons of Cocaine into the USA in the 1980's. Also check out Barry Seals, a CIA operative, who flew an old retired USAF transport plane into Mena AR in the 1980's which held MANY Tons of Cocaine per flight. It was AR Gov Bill Clinton who allowed Mena AR to become an American destination for this other part of financing the Contras. Some say Clinton's seed money for his 1992 Presidential Campaign came from from his cut of the Cocaine profits coming through AR. Don't even know if the Cocaine coming into the USA through Eastern AL was part of the Contra operation, but the amounts cited here are trivial compared to the tonnage that the Contras brought in. I would guess that the crash of Flight 980 and the poor attempts to investigate it were somehow related to the Contra operation. This would be a good point from which to do a new investigation of Flight 980 but Beware !!! The CIA "suicided" Gary Webb in his Sacramento CA home around 1998 to shut him up from revealing even more about how the US Govt was in the Drug Business.
I don't recall an episode of Mayday/ACI like that. You might have confused it with some other series, the crash of Eastern 401 or possibly some other crash, perhaps American 965 or Copa 201
@@pepethepatriot7524, you should have seen the sick joke the Red Cross was locally after Hurricane Michael tried to wipe my part of Florida off the face of the planet! They never came out to many of our areas, choosing only to go where the television cameras were. The Salvation Army and may others were everywhere. The Red Cross is one very sick, politically perverted JOKE and should be disbanded PERMANENTLY!!!!!!!!
"We need supplies badly, we are injured and had to stay behind" "Supplies? You got it. We are bringing up a record player and 72 cents in small change"
Seemed like all government parties wanted it covered up given NTSB gave them such shit conditions to go with. Likely America wanted those officials dead and Bolivia received a nice pay day to make it happen/keep it covered up.
I love how “everyone and their widow” suggest that even a corpse could hike up that snowy mountain better than a team of official government investigators.
At the end, when the two hobbyists discovered fragments of the Black Box torn to shreds on their private expedition - I struggle to believe that was caused by the crash. The only times I've read about both the FDR and CVR were both destroyed in a plane crash, it was due to post-crash fires that burned long enough and hot enough to cause irreparable damage. There has - to my knowledge - never been a complete loss of the black box caused entirely from impact. tbh I'm not entirely sure it's even possible for a plane to go *fast* enough to destroy a black box on impact. This crash might in fact be the only example. Or, y'know...someone on expedition 1 took it out, wrenched open the shell, and gutted the contents.
Listened to the podcast Inside a Mind made that features Barely Sociable and they talked about what topic he wants to cover and not wanting it to just be horror/internet mystery. Basically picking anything he finds interesting. Glad you're not pigeonholing yourself mate. Loving the materials. Great production as well. Notice him sempai Lemmino.
Honestly as long as the production continues to be good, the material engaging and substantial, and the quality exceptional, then I'll happily consume whatever Barely Sociable decides to make a video of!
The magnetic tape contained an episode of I Spy.... Imagine you're trying to recover audio data from a mysterious black box... then you realise it's video... and the first frame you recover is Bill Cosby staring at you
@Δ I dont get how the first expiditions, who made it up to the wreckage before it started sliding down the mountain and before it was too buried in snow, didnt find any human remains, while the latest expedition who searched down the mountain where bits of the wreckage had slid down, DID find human remains. You would think it would be the opposite.
So what we know is the bodies were gone, meaning there were no deaths in the crash and they tried hiking away, or they were removed. The FDR and CVR were both gone, despite the section of the plane that housed them being intact, but chunks of the outer casing were found, indicative of severe damage. And one million dollars of contraband cargo were still present. So we have Several VIPs No bodies Tail intact CVR or FDR being badly damaged enough to knock off chunks of it $1mil contraband left behind Most logical to me is that someone moved the bodies, smashed the crap out of the black box, took the tape, and left $1million sitting there. But then why bother moving ALL the bodies? (Possibly to avoid pinpointing who the main target was?) Eyewitness accounts point to a midair breakup possibly after an explosion, why was no explosive residue found? (Could this accounts perhaps have been fabricated under threat?) Why did whoever took the black box not take the million dollars of contraband, unless there was other contraband even more valuable? If so what was it?If it was Terrorism why did no one claim responsibility? And how in the hell did we get three separate countries all willing to sweep this under the rug? There are missing human remains and missing black box fragments sliding down the south face. Our answers lie upland, likely in a mass grave that would become slightly more massive if anyone caught wind of its potential exposure.
You left out your speculations on the last expedition finding pieces of the outer casing of the Black Box. Those Black Boxes are made to be nearly indestructible and yet pieces were found of it's outer casing. That would really imply intentional destruction because no amount of speed, fuel, or impact is suppose to be able to destroy the black box. It is positioned in the rear of the plane so that most of the kinetic energy from a crash will have dissipated by the time the black box reaches the impact site. From what you said in the video, the rear stairs were found intact as well as the area where the box would have been located. That rules out the plane being shot down as the cause for the pieces of black box being found. It seems more like it had been removed first, and then intentionally demolished with explosives that later slid down the slopes until found. I am stuck with the conclusion that something nefarious occurred and steps were taken to conceal it.
If explosives had been used there would have been signs on the recovered piece, whether that’s burn marks or residue. I think it’s more likely the black box was separated during the impact and destroyed between time of crash and final resting. Open to other ideas but Occam’s razor tells me that one right now
Look up for Lauda Air flight 004. The Black Box was destroyed there, while the voice recorder survived. And that happened in, I think, 1991. However, the machine's last reported velocity was Mach 0,99, and it has been suggested that that was just the maximum speed the display could show. After this plane crash, the Black Boxes had to be even more resistant. Anyway, your assumption the box was destroyed manually could be true. Idk.
Someone watches too much UA-cam. Nothing is indestructible. Not even a black box. More than one of these has been retrieved with the outer casing damaged.
@@jfangm "That quickly" was 30 years. 30 years exposed to the elements in a mountainous enviroment with freezing and thawing cycles and storms is enough to wreck something like a FDR apart. What should be suspicious is that the magnetic tape was not the original magnetic tape and contained a recording of a show. That tape was put in place of whatever was there before. That's clear evidence that the black box was tampered with.
@@smolkaguya372 She climbed it not during winter. A few people died and the Bolivian government (in 1980s were super dead poor) didn't care that much. They assumed it's weather and they had crashes into the mountains by small planes in Bolivia before. I can't blame NTSB (USA), they can't do much when a far away government is a deadbeat.
@@HusseinDoha All they had to do was mention to the US government that there was some oil at the exact location of the crash, they'd have had SEAL teams and CIA operatives dropping in within a day.
American Red Cross: *flexing* "I can provide shelter, clothing, bedding, water, food and financial assistance to survivors of fire, earthquake, tornado, hurricane, volcanic eruption and mudslide disasters." The Red Cross anywhere else: *shivering* "Why is it so hard to provide a cup of water to people?"
@@erikagrey6999 I don't know how, but I know that helicopter + snow mountain is not a good idea, the strong vibrations can cause an avalanche and bury them all...
My biggest question is where in the hell all the bodies went? That’s a lot of people to just disappear around a crash site. I find it hard to believe they just disintegrated on impact without leaving anything behind.
At first I was thinking maybe they got up and walked away but after seeing the chips of the black box casing - which is basically bomb proof - I really don't think that's the case.
@@tinycockjock1967 Black box getting damaged or chipped in a crash is not uncommon. The black box being completely destroyed on a crash where the tail section holding the black box is intact is really weird.
I'm pretty sure the unofficial expeditions had an easier time partially because there was always at least one Native person who went with them. On top of being better acclimated to the oxygen and air pressure they probably knew how to to stay safe on mountains better just from living on or near them.
@@scrithen2836 lol. yeh. he was insanely good. but another youtuber made fun of him for it, so I think it was taken down he can be quoted as saying "1M subs and I’ll rap about pussy again. (JK)"
US: Can you investigate that crash? NTSB: Sure thing old buddy but first what do you think of my new shoes. US: Ummmm there nice now about the crash. NTSB: ........ow sure on it. US: Okay bye? NTSB: bYe NTSB: THEY DON'T LIKE MY NEW SHOES WAAAAAAAA
@@DevinEMILE So why were other free-lance climbers able to get up to it without being funded? When a group is given 100 dollars of funds per person 3 days before the investigation, had their plans forcibly changed, given no heads up, supplies, nor medical help, it raises questions. Especially when the governments have an unbelievable amount of money, they couldn't give more funding? And think about what was on the aircraft. Drugs and smuggling. They're obviously hiding something, not to mention they requested the video to not be shown to the public. They cheated the climbers.
@@spiritdox9774 I mean as usual it all comes down to money. Setting up an investigation at that location probably cost a fortune that they didnt want to pay
If Greg Feith is in charge, you know the investigation on his end did all it could. He literally refused to give up on any accident he investigated and was determined to find it no matter what. He and Bob Benzon have excellent reputations when it comes to air crash investigating and are both extremely open and willing to talk about their experiences.
This doesn’t seem like all that much of a mystery. Cartels were probably up and out of there w/the black box and all the booger sugar before anyone even knew what happened.
Yeah all those terms are all tongue in cheek street names for cocaine, he's not the first one to come up with them. Hell I've even heard "white girl". Anyone who's been around those drugs already know.
You can be sure when a company/agency actively avoids something that otherwise would require their immediate attention, they had a hand in the planning/execution/cover up.
@Random_Person 73 bruh i still remember how as kids we would get absolutely fucked up playing outside in school and then they'd give us candy and tell us it was medicine
After seeing how South Korea handled the Sewol Ferry, this is probably a global issue... can't trust our leaders for shit except take our taxes religiously.
There absolutely needs to be a group that just digs up information like this and brings the people involved to justice. There are SO MANY guilty parties involved. SOMEONE knows something and is sitting pretty in some mansion funded by alligator skins
So everyone on that passenger manifest is actually MISSING, as there appears to be zero evidence they died in the crash, or were even on the plane in the first place.
I believe the crash was planned. The people that were supposed to be on board, the lack of proper investigation, the black box being completely gone besides a few pieces of the outer shell, the reports of parts falling the flight plan not physically allowing said parts to fall where they supposedly did or the crash site. Nothing but the key details have remained lost. My biggest point of confusion is that SOMEHOW, the plane split along the cabin so that the tail was intact but not much else was found while also having parts claimed to be dropped over a town MILES away with the flight plan not physically allowing either the parts falling or the crash to happen. I personally can't see it being anything but direct and intentional sabotage.
@@commander31able60 Pablo Escobar had multiple flights bombed in his war against the Colombian government, you'd be surprised the kind of crazy shit that goes on in narco wars.
To answer both your questions: The tail section is often the most intact part of a plane in a crash, this is for 2 reasons, it is designed to be sturdier, than everything sledge other than the wings especially on a 727 and it is the same physics as a car crash the front acts as a crumple zone taking the energy of the crash so the rear takes massively less force than the front in a head on collision. In response to parts falling in the proposed location, where is the evidence? Why were these parts never found? eyewitness testimonies can be sketchy at the best of times especially in the conditions that this crash occurred in. The simplest explanation for this crash is like so many crashes before and after it the plane was off course and the pilots didn’t realise either due to faulty navigational systems or pilot error this lead to controlled flight into terrain. Possibly the pilots realised at the last minute and spooled the engines to try and climb out. The plane breaks apart into many parts which are embedded into the snow and bodies are flung from the plane. The black boxes are also knocked loose into the snow. The first expedition was an expedition of untrained locals who didn’t know exactly what items they were looking for and how to look for them. The Bolivian government can be explained purely by incompetent investigating, which once again we have seen in the past. Look how closed governments react to plane crashes in their jurisdiction they always close down information streams first, this was most likely why the initial climbers were threatened. They don’t like looking weak and especially when the crash involves Americans.
@@mattj3864 Given the findings of contraband in the wreckage, and the many connections Eastern had with drug smuggling, its clear to me that some amount of bribery occurred, either of the Bolivian government or the NTSB, which lead to so little funding or effort being put in recovering the aircraft. I agree that the eyewitness reports of falling debris are unreliable, and we shouldn't jump to conclusions that the crash was intentionally caused, but I think its safe to say that the crash itself was intentionally covered up by some party connected to the Eastern scandals. I would agree that the Bolivian government nowadays is probably just "covering it up" to prevent bad publicity or show how incompetent they are, rather than a continuing conspiracy of the crash and what occurred.
absolutely fuckin excellent work as always! the editing here is incredible, and i can honestly say this is the first time in a while that i've really sat and *watched* a video! the visuals were very eye catching and visually pleasing. i especially liked the little planes ;^) tbh this might be my new favorite of yours, mr. barely. wonderful job, and thanks for linking me!
I got literal chills in my spine when the footprints were mentioned. Based on this video, a few things are likely true: - The true cause of the crash was never meant to be discovered by the Bolivians or Paraguayans - The Bolivian government wanted to halt the NTSB's investigation at best (kill them at worst) - The black box was recovered, and/or intentionally destroyed, by someone who was never listed as being on an expedition - The bodies were recovered, or destroyed, by someone (who again, was never someone publicly listed on an expedition) - The NTSB was either incompetent, did not want to find the cause of the crash, or some combo of both This might be a stretch (especially considering that there is literally no proof of it), but I think one possibility is that the cartel itself was involved in the compromised investigation DRIECTLY, either by sending cartel members or contracted locals up to sabotage the crash site.
I just came back to this video to re-watch after a few years. What about the possibility of the black box being removed before the plane even left the airport? Picture this scenario: -bad guys have a man inside the airport the plane left from -they pay the inside man to enter the plane and remove the black box during maintenance I'm not knowledgeable enough on aircraft to know whether the black box being removed would be known to the pilots, through a warning light or such, but if not then they would have no idea something was amiss. And if there was a warning, the maintenance worker, with knowledge on the aircraft and it's systems, could've disabled this warning. The final part of this puzzle is how the plane crashed. with the aircraft sitting for 30 years it's unlikely any cause could be determined right? And there's still the case of that town hearing a loud bang. If the plane was shot down or damaged, surely there'd be burn marks or visible damage on the plane. at the site that would look different from the damage caused by the crash itself.
Phew now that was a mystery that kept me on the edge of my seat. How much money was involved to allow for a cover-up like this to happen in the first place? Personally I'm placing my money on someone else having been up there beforehand to recover the black box, even if this opens up questions as to why they didn't recover the animal skins for example.... God the worst part about these mysteries really is the fact that they're open ended. Nonetheless thank you for the great execution on this documentary and keep up the fantastic work!
@@enotj How the hell is weed called flower?? I was like.. dafuq mate?? Thought he made a mistake. Coz flower sounds like "flour", which would be the same kind of nickname as snow, i.e. hinting at coke, not weed. So why did he say it? Is it even commonly used?? Isn't weed called grass or green or herbs usually, just to name a few? You know, something that actually resembles the substance in question?? And yes, I'm obviously aware, that the part from the plant being harvested, which commonly is known as weed, are the "flowers". The "brown" on the other hand is extracted from the stem.
@@delotrium6207 Gonna be real with you, choosing a homophone to a euphemism about the other drug being mentioned is a bad idea, if it really is, which, uh, I've never actually heard "flower" used as a euphemism, but that's just anecdotal. Maybe it is. Dunno.
I just came across your channel and I have to say it's an awesome find!! Your production value is over the top.... music, visuals, subjects and your research is all pro!!! I thought I could listen to the program while I'm building a rodin coil or whatever. But instead I'm glued to the screen holding a hot soldering iron or some tool completely engaged with the program. Thanks for ALL your efforts...it shows.
As a Bolivian I have to say that I never heard of this crash before this video, thanks Barely Sociable, this was a very interesting and well produced video, also I'm not surprised about the lack of interest of the government in investigating the crash, in 1985 Bolivia was in the middle of its most severe economical crisis, and social unrest, the presidential elections were held in 1985 (1 year earlier than it should) due to the social and economical chaos, I'm not justifying the mishandling of the investigation but I think Bolivia had most important matters to deal at the time. Keep the good work, I enjoy your content. P.S those 600 USD would have been about 450000000 pesos Bolivianos due to the hyperinflation Bolivia was suffering.
It is interesting that despite all that, it seems none of the other countries involved were willing to help with the investigation. Im sure the US could have coughed up some more resources to investigate the death of their citizens.
"Widow climbs 19,000-ft mountain of ice... to say goodbye to her dead husband!" Idk man this one just got me Edit fixed it to 19k thanks for those that let me know
I worked at EA in the mid 1980’s. During that period, Miami was the capital for drugs entering the US. I’m absolutely sure that every airline servicing south and Central America at that time unknowingly brought contraband into the country. I’m also sure that some airline personnel were also involved in this.
Everyone was involved. Some knew 'what' and maybe one 'who', while most just did what they were told and obeyed orders so they'd see the next sunrise. Ships too.
Man, you cover some of the most interesting stuff. Nice job on this one, it has me doing tons of side research on stuff as I watch, absolutely fascinated by this story.
I came into a conclusion that being buried alive over a plane crash is my very specific nightmare. They always be so deep into the ground and there’s no way anyone able to took our body out.
14:25 Greg is a legend. & very media friendly. Given your reputation, I bet you if you contacted him he just may speak to you about this. Even if it’s limited on what he can disclose, this may be worth the email. Edit: I’m in shambles laughing at *energy powder* euphemisms 😂
@@GreekGirl102 @Trac what we find derogatory depends on social standards. Peasants just mean "common people" and might not have been considered derogatory back then. Tomorrow the phrase "common people" could be considered derogatory. Don't come after me for using it.
well, legal things are not nearly as interesting as the possibility of our own CIA (who helped start the drug problem in America) being involved in illegal trade of animal pelts or drugs.
"An 18 minute recording of the show I Spy" Someone planted that there specifically to fuck with people looking into the crash. How much more obvious can it be?
"Kool-Aid? Why would they send us Kook-Aid?" "I think it's a sign." "Sign? What kind of sign?" "You know. "Drink the Kool-Aid." Get on board with the cover-up." "Oooooh....."
So did they ever recover the alleged plane debris from the village of Cohoni? That would at least confirm a rough KIA location using simulated models of an in flight explosion, show signs of a bomb on board, or rule that out. also how long it took between the explosion being heard and the debris falling, etc.
There's also a bunch of other small villages and settlements nearby, even closer to the alleged impact location. If they existed in that time maybe they could add something as well>?
If you feel like Bolivian government was extremely unhelpful and incompetent, you are right. I, as a Bolivian myself, have seen the government and the justice fail time after time even on the smallest and easier both crimes and problems involving them that does not bring money or personal gain
This is exactly why I became a subscriber a long time ago, the type of content that you produce is bone chilling, I can get cuddled up in my blanket with chills down my spine and invested so heavily into a video that took so much for you to make, for that I want to thank you and please keep up the good work because you are one badass storyteller/UA-camr ❤
When I subscribed, I thought you'd just be another decent-quality spook mystery channel. Instead I find myself subscribed to one of the most thorough investigative mystery channels on the site. I hope you continue to gain recognition, Sociable; this kind and quality of work is extremely time consuming.
So they found some human remains eventually, but still super weird that no bodies where reported by the first couple of expeditions. Makes me think all of this is a lot darker than it seems.
What if the people and the black box were removed first and the plane put on the mountain afterwards. And the remains are from the person who had to put it there.
Yes, someone got there very soon after it crashed and cleaned up. The bodies were not taken by animals. There's no animal large enough to be capable of carrying a body that could do it from a narrow airplane aisle while it's locked under a seat belt - And this happened to apparently all 27 people on board no matter where they were in the plane, even the pilots in their 4-point harnesses (not just lap belts). They were not scavenged because scavengers leave evidence of scavenging. The recorders were destroyed which doesn't happen, and a fake tape with "I, Spy" left instead. The whole thing is a huge neon sign saying "coverup".
The fact that Greg Feith who was one of the lead investigators of the NTSB in the mid to late 90s was able to get to the crash site and not found a CVR or FDR... something definitely shady went on... either the box was removed post crash or the plane never took off with black boxes inside.
Man, the production value on these random 20 min youtube videos is crazy. If you wanted to, I feel like you totally deserve to be put in charge of large project documentary somewhere.
It's the 18 minutes of I Spy that gets me. I guess somebody made an audio recording of a TV episode (not unheard of; people did that going back to the 60s) to listen to privately. But I Spy went off the air in 1968. Someone was listening to TV episode that was more than 15 years old when their plane hit the mountain. They must have really liked that show, and it was the last thing they heard. What a sad, disquieting thought. Doubly disquieting to think someone's last moments might have been spent listening to Bill Cosby. * shudders *
Thank you for being the (almost) only youtube channel to tell odd events without a try-hard-creepy-voice. Your content is always great. Keep up the great work!
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity", unless the stupidity is so egregious that it can only be intentional. "We need fuel" "Two gallons of Kool coming right up" "And some stoves" "Some clothes? Gotcha."
What's boggling with this "mishap" alone is even if they had asked for kool aid specifically, they only brought them 2 gallons total! On average we need roughly half gallon per person per day so yea that helps for just about that one day alone~ ludicrous
@@TheDigitalThreat Well, they were given koolaid powder. You actually need very little powder to flavor a bottle of water. So actually, the amount they were given could probably last 4 people like a month or two pretty comfortably.
I mean, if you aren't in a cartel, government, or any other corrupt part of that shithole country, odds are your poor, starving, and a back woods farmer.
@@FSXflyermaster Funny. I came from a remote coal mining town in the US. We have the same problem. The media may not refer to them (I've been in NYC for 25+ yrs) outright as hillbillies, but there's a class divide for sure.
once i heard the widow was able to reach the investigation site it was obvious the professionals had too; there’s no way they didn’t make up there and tamper with the box before civilians got there
Yay, the perfect mystery. With multiple parties having stakes in keeping it that way for possibly a variety of reasons. But there is an open question, that this video doesn't adress: What's behind the report of other debris allegedly falling over the village? Was such debris ever found?
Minor point of note: There are actually two black boxes. The Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR) and the Flight Data Recorder with the former storing the audio from inside the cockpit, and the latter recording control positions and other critical flight information.
Forgot to add a master channel to EQ down the background music. Sorry it’s a bit loud at parts it’s not mixed properly.
Dang I really liked the background music. What was it? It wasn't in the description, although I understand how content creators feel about not letting others use music they found first... ...
Planet Xtreme The source for the music is at the bottom of the description box lol
@@madokakaname5985 i can swear to you it was just added, i looked before and nothing was there
how do you mix the audio? is there some special software you use?
@@goatman9894 what i usually do is record the audio first, edit it, import it in my video editing software, then add in music and turn down/up the volume if needed.
Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 goes missing: *most expensive search in aviation history*
Flight 980 goes missing: "i got 20 bucks"
I got 20 bucks and some koolaid, Let's do this.
@@ve6009 i have some expired heinz beans will that help
@Pizza Rolls Only if it's duct tape
@@thegreyspectre9838 hey whoah, let’s not be too generous here. We can offer them some scotch tape covered in fingerprints on the sticky side so it barely works anymore.
I have some grape flavored gum and a bit of foil. I'm in
Ah the old "how many euphamisms for drugs can I use in order to keep this video monetized".
I think "nose candy" is my favourite
In the sane timeline, it's the other way around. The legitimate content creators can use the legal and technical terms in their work, and the videos like "omg boyz this nose candy tho!!" are demonetized. 🤯
nose clams
I like to use "chems" like how it's called in the fallout universe
energy powder tho xD
If anything has 'shady' written all over it, it's this.
Single gameing
sounds gewwy to me!!!
I think it was a drug flight to start with. The black box was never even installed. Some people used 980 to smuggle shit.
I've seen MANY YT videos about airline crashes but the follow up investigation on this one is really the worst.
@@JosephKulik2016 yeah it really reads as a coverup. I don't think mere smuggling was the reason for a coverup either.
Theres a Mayday/Air Crash Investigation episode on this including interview with Greg Feith, who was the NTSB guy, who finally got to go on the ill fated expedition. It was amazing, all they had to go through, and even then 25-30 years later his utter frustration with, what he felt was deliberate sabotaging of their attempt at investigation, was very obvious. He also said, that he had tried repeatedly to get a 2nd expedition approved, since the 1st expedition was so disastrous, but he was denied every time. He was certain, that all their "bad luck" had been some1 deliberately making sure, they wouldnt get to do an actual investigation.
Feith went there in October of the same year..
If Feith was part of an official NTSB investigation, why did the NTSB not publish any official report? Is there an NTSB policy which states that only fully completed, successful investigations are reported? I don't believe so and I couldn't find any evidence there is.
@@jesspavlichenko5745 BS
The amount of Cocaine smuggled through Eastern AL cited here is peanuts compared to what the Nicaraguan Contras smuggled into the USA in the 1980's under the protection of the CIA. Read "Dark Alliance" by Gary Webb to find out the details of how the CIA was behind the Crack Cocaine Epidemic. The CIA was not directly involved but they "ran interference" for the Contras who used the proceeds to fund their attempt at a counter-revolution in Nicaragua. The Contras brought MANY, MANY Tons of Cocaine into the USA in the 1980's. Also check out Barry Seals, a CIA operative, who flew an old retired USAF transport plane into Mena AR in the 1980's which held MANY Tons of Cocaine per flight. It was AR Gov Bill Clinton who allowed Mena AR to become an American destination for this other part of financing the Contras. Some say Clinton's seed money for his 1992 Presidential Campaign came from from his cut of the Cocaine profits coming through AR. Don't even know if the Cocaine coming into the USA through Eastern AL was part of the Contra operation, but the amounts cited here are trivial compared to the tonnage that the Contras brought in. I would guess that the crash of Flight 980 and the poor attempts to investigate it were somehow related to the Contra operation. This would be a good point from which to do a new investigation of Flight 980 but Beware !!! The CIA "suicided" Gary Webb in his Sacramento CA home around 1998 to shut him up from revealing even more about how the US Govt was in the Drug Business.
I don't recall an episode of Mayday/ACI like that. You might have confused it with some other series, the crash of Eastern 401 or possibly some other crash, perhaps American 965 or Copa 201
mans probably put more effort into making this video than the NTSB and BG did investigating this crash
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@@bravoxray agreed
Bruh thats a good point
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He put more effort into avoiding the words "cocaine" and "marajana" than he did the axtual investigation
How did you avoid the Hitmen sent after you for unmasking Satoshi Nakamoto ?
I bet those hitmen were ordered through Besa Mafia and bought their Lake City Quiet Pills from Room 322. In short, he’ll be okay.
He IS Satoshi Nakamoto, and his videos are simply used to drive attention off of him
@@Iisheell 😨🤤😨 shook.
A bribe of 100 Bitcoin each?
if you give 100 bitcoin I'll pay you back double lol
“We need survival essentials.” Red Cross: *O H Y E A H*
Comment of the year lol
One of the many reasons I don't donate to the Red Cross, they are notorious for handling money shitty and being crooks
🤣
Truth be told Red Cross HQ holds the big red guy and im not talking about santa...
@@pepethepatriot7524, you should have seen the sick joke the Red Cross was locally after Hurricane Michael tried to wipe my part of Florida off the face of the planet! They never came out to many of our areas, choosing only to go where the television cameras were. The Salvation Army and may others were everywhere. The Red Cross is one very sick, politically perverted JOKE and should be disbanded PERMANENTLY!!!!!!!!
Climbers: "Help, we're cold!"
Red Cross: "Help against cold? Cold help? Cold aid? Cool aid? Kool-Aid!"
Nailed it!
Annnnnnnddddd.... pants!
Oh _YEAAAAH!!_
@@justinwallace390 oh, who needs _pants?!?_ that's right... no.. bud.. dee.
Oh yeah!!!!
The Bolivian government _wanted_ that team to die and it's a miracle those men survived. This was absolutely a coverup.
"We need supplies badly, we are injured and had to stay behind"
"Supplies? You got it. We are bringing up a record player and 72 cents in small change"
200 percent
@@iand4374 lol
"We desperately need food and cooking supplies! please help!"
"Nah fam here's some K O O L A I D"
Seemed like all government parties wanted it covered up given NTSB gave them such shit conditions to go with. Likely America wanted those officials dead and Bolivia received a nice pay day to make it happen/keep it covered up.
I love how “everyone and their widow” suggest that even a corpse could hike up that snowy mountain better than a team of official government investigators.
Here Ill try it after I finish my ‘flower’ that looks like flour. Apparently its rat poison
I wouldn't be surprised if that official investigation was being sabotaged by somebody.
sheller153 update: I am climbing the mountain now, very hard since im only rolling as I am a corpse
@@awhahoo updates yet?
I grew a arm so its going faster after I rolled down for the third time.
Investigators: We need food and stoves
Red Cross: *K O O L A D E*
O H Y E A H
God damn it!!! We ask for food and stoves but you give us KOOLADE?! Do we look like children? We are not gonna get energy from that!
L O L
@@bian7744 Plus there are no walls to break in the mountains
What kind of red cross was that ?
At the end, when the two hobbyists discovered fragments of the Black Box torn to shreds on their private expedition - I struggle to believe that was caused by the crash. The only times I've read about both the FDR and CVR were both destroyed in a plane crash, it was due to post-crash fires that burned long enough and hot enough to cause irreparable damage. There has - to my knowledge - never been a complete loss of the black box caused entirely from impact. tbh I'm not entirely sure it's even possible for a plane to go *fast* enough to destroy a black box on impact. This crash might in fact be the only example.
Or, y'know...someone on expedition 1 took it out, wrenched open the shell, and gutted the contents.
No you are wrong sorry
@@vish6659 how?
It had been a couple of years after the wreck, right? The snow could’ve maybe torn it up a bit, but I agree, I think the first expedition found it.
@@helios3217 30 years by the time the black box scraps were found. Thats plenty of time for the freezing, thawing, grinding to tear it apart.
@@IPC-D_Media_Unit but if it can survive flying into the ground at high speeds then surely it can survive that
Listened to the podcast Inside a Mind made that features Barely Sociable and they talked about what topic he wants to cover and not wanting it to just be horror/internet mystery. Basically picking anything he finds interesting. Glad you're not pigeonholing yourself mate. Loving the materials. Great production as well. Notice him sempai Lemmino.
Lemmino aka Top 10 Memes
yeah I'm really enjoying the historical content also!! it's nice to see channels cover more than just internet rabbit holes.
Honestly as long as the production continues to be good, the material engaging and substantial, and the quality exceptional, then I'll happily consume whatever Barely Sociable decides to make a video of!
Y2Jgrave I get so damn excited when barely sociable uploads
Where can I find this podcast?
The magnetic tape contained an episode of I Spy....
Imagine you're trying to recover audio data from a mysterious black box... then you realise it's video... and the first frame you recover is Bill Cosby staring at you
LOL 😆!
And he's offering you a cocktail
Whispering "gotcha bitch"
@@Ultrad321 And some Jello
Picture pages picture pages 🎵
And pudding cups.
did i phase out or did we not talk enough about how there's absolutely no bodies found on the crash?
The latest expedition did find human remains, but the first 3 (i think) didn't.
@Δ I dont get how the first expiditions, who made it up to the wreckage before it started sliding down the mountain and before it was too buried in snow, didnt find any human remains, while the latest expedition who searched down the mountain where bits of the wreckage had slid down, DID find human remains. You would think it would be the opposite.
So true! I remember thinking that was weird, then forgetting the “no bodies” among the other weirdness.
So what we know is the bodies were gone, meaning there were no deaths in the crash and they tried hiking away, or they were removed. The FDR and CVR were both gone, despite the section of the plane that housed them being intact, but chunks of the outer casing were found, indicative of severe damage. And one million dollars of contraband cargo were still present.
So we have
Several VIPs
No bodies
Tail intact
CVR or FDR being badly damaged enough to knock off chunks of it
$1mil contraband left behind
Most logical to me is that someone moved the bodies, smashed the crap out of the black box, took the tape, and left $1million sitting there.
But then why bother moving ALL the bodies? (Possibly to avoid pinpointing who the main target was?) Eyewitness accounts point to a midair breakup possibly after an explosion, why was no explosive residue found? (Could this accounts perhaps have been fabricated under threat?) Why did whoever took the black box not take the million dollars of contraband, unless there was other contraband even more valuable? If so what was it?If it was Terrorism why did no one claim responsibility? And how in the hell did we get three separate countries all willing to sweep this under the rug?
There are missing human remains and missing black box fragments sliding down the south face. Our answers lie upland, likely in a mass grave that would become slightly more massive if anyone caught wind of its potential exposure.
@Section8ification I nominate you to be Bernardo’s next climbing partner
You left out your speculations on the last expedition finding pieces of the outer casing of the Black Box. Those Black Boxes are made to be nearly indestructible and yet pieces were found of it's outer casing. That would really imply intentional destruction because no amount of speed, fuel, or impact is suppose to be able to destroy the black box. It is positioned in the rear of the plane so that most of the kinetic energy from a crash will have dissipated by the time the black box reaches the impact site.
From what you said in the video, the rear stairs were found intact as well as the area where the box would have been located. That rules out the plane being shot down as the cause for the pieces of black box being found. It seems more like it had been removed first, and then intentionally demolished with explosives that later slid down the slopes until found.
I am stuck with the conclusion that something nefarious occurred and steps were taken to conceal it.
If explosives had been used there would have been signs on the recovered piece, whether that’s burn marks or residue.
I think it’s more likely the black box was separated during the impact and destroyed between time of crash and final resting.
Open to other ideas but Occam’s razor tells me that one right now
Look up for Lauda Air flight 004. The Black Box was destroyed there, while the voice recorder survived. And that happened in, I think, 1991. However, the machine's last reported velocity was Mach 0,99, and it has been suggested that that was just the maximum speed the display could show. After this plane crash, the Black Boxes had to be even more resistant.
Anyway, your assumption the box was destroyed manually could be true. Idk.
@@MacTac141
Occam's Razor says nature can't destroy a black box that thoroughly, that quickly.
Someone watches too much UA-cam. Nothing is indestructible. Not even a black box. More than one of these has been retrieved with the outer casing damaged.
@@jfangm "That quickly" was 30 years. 30 years exposed to the elements in a mountainous enviroment with freezing and thawing cycles and storms is enough to wreck something like a FDR apart.
What should be suspicious is that the magnetic tape was not the original magnetic tape and contained a recording of a show. That tape was put in place of whatever was there before. That's clear evidence that the black box was tampered with.
The Gov of 3 countries: we can not reach the site.
60yr old widow: hold my dentures...
60yr old widow: lol nubs
@@smolkaguya372 She climbed it not during winter. A few people died and the Bolivian government (in 1980s were super dead poor) didn't care that much. They assumed it's weather and they had crashes into the mountains by small planes in Bolivia before. I can't blame NTSB (USA), they can't do much when a far away government is a deadbeat.
@@smolkaguya372 ew
@@XeonGame ew?
@@HusseinDoha All they had to do was mention to the US government that there was some oil at the exact location of the crash, they'd have had SEAL teams and CIA operatives dropping in within a day.
I need water!
Red cross: here's a puzzle, and a sock
DOBBY FREEEEEEEEEE!!
but how did the red cross get to them each time? by foot ? why couldnt the investagors helicopter up the mountain?
American Red Cross: *flexing* "I can provide shelter, clothing, bedding, water, food and financial assistance to survivors of fire, earthquake, tornado, hurricane, volcanic eruption and mudslide disasters."
The Red Cross anywhere else: *shivering* "Why is it so hard to provide a cup of water to people?"
@@erikagrey6999 I don't know how, but I know that helicopter + snow mountain is not a good idea, the strong vibrations can cause an avalanche and bury them all...
@@elfinshell4758 yes, Dobby free
I think the creepiest thing is that there where no bodies. Like how many people where hired to pry the dead from the wreckage?
Or maybe the passengers didn’t die on impact and instead tried to seek help
Makes me think of LOST!
Or maybe they didn't exist
@Rafael Enriquez so the passengers gibed on impact? Then why wasn’t the plane interior coated in gore?
@Rafael Enriquez it’s still real sus there where no remains found.
My biggest question is where in the hell all the bodies went? That’s a lot of people to just disappear around a crash site. I find it hard to believe they just disintegrated on impact without leaving anything behind.
Buried under snow and ice. If any of them surface and thaw, then chewed on by animals.
Foxes, carrion birds, small dogs.
aha sure@@Parattchi
totaly man, them animals just have this magical ability to atomise everything that they eat@@toastedt140
tbf the plane could hold 149-189 passengers, but there were only 29 people (19 passengers, 10 crewmembers) on board
I mean, okay... no Black box, sure... But NO BODIES?!?! wtf?! why aren't we talking more about that?
At first I was thinking maybe they got up and walked away but after seeing the chips of the black box casing - which is basically bomb proof - I really don't think that's the case.
@@tinycockjock1967 Black box getting damaged or chipped in a crash is not uncommon.
The black box being completely destroyed on a crash where the tail section holding the black box is intact is really weird.
Yeah?! Thinking the same, how didn't he talk about that??
@James Evans i see
@@tinycockjock1967 Nice name.
Several Americans: *wanna scale a 19k high mountain with no climbing experience*
Bernando: Awww Shit! Here we go again
Ha, i actually did that in Bolivia. There's some easy 6000m peaks near La Paz
There’s quite a few peaks under 20k that can be easily climbed by amateurs. That being said the remote Andes themselves can be pretty dangerous.
I'm pretty sure the unofficial expeditions had an easier time partially because there was always at least one Native person who went with them. On top of being better acclimated to the oxygen and air pressure they probably knew how to to stay safe on mountains better just from living on or near them.
Greg Feith has his own podcast and he talked about his experience investigating this crash, it's on episode 33 of the Flight Safety Detectives.
MY SWEET, SPOOKY, MYSTERY SOLVING RETIRED SOUNDCLOUD RAPPER HAS RETURNED
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He was a soundcloud rapper?
@@scrithen2836 lol. yeh. he was insanely good. but another youtuber made fun of him for it, so I think it was taken down
he can be quoted as saying
"1M subs and I’ll rap about pussy again. (JK)"
Everyone has a past.
What I expected: The unsolved mystery of a plane's disappearance
What I got: A reminder that the government is oh, so shady.
Seems white as snow
well it is bolivia
slim shady too
@@mooknick242 the US is in on this too 100%
@@daggers101 Really? That’s your answer to this? Cope?
“Hey I found 100 kilos of coke under my seat”
“90 kilos you said?”
“Yeah man, 50 kilos”
“How much was that again, 25 kilos?”
“Yup, 15 kilos”
**1 kilo checked into evidence**
“Your honour, we submit article 212 into evidence; half a kilo of cocaine that was found under one of the seat onboard the plane.”
judge: yep, looks like 100 grams to me
@@magatsuinaba448 aaaand its gone
@@dusanloncar3349 good one
This is the ONLY crash of a US Registered airline that the NTSB refused to investigate.
US: Can you investigate that crash?
NTSB: Sure thing old buddy but first what do you think of my new shoes.
US: Ummmm there nice now about the crash.
NTSB: ........ow sure on it.
US: Okay bye?
NTSB: bYe
NTSB: THEY DON'T LIKE MY NEW SHOES WAAAAAAAA
Columbia to Miami---in the 1980s? no TSA agents? no checked baggage? Mule Air Express.
@@utubewatcher806 good point
SUs
@@violetsmokes5815 I would rather ask how he got those shoes
A little suspicious how only the investigation team had trouble getting to the crash site
Not really? It’s a difficult place to get to. Especially when your given 600 bucks to do it.
@@DevinEMILE So why were other free-lance climbers able to get up to it without being funded?
When a group is given 100 dollars of funds per person 3 days before the investigation, had their plans forcibly changed, given no heads up, supplies, nor medical help, it raises questions. Especially when the governments have an unbelievable amount of money, they couldn't give more funding? And think about what was on the aircraft. Drugs and smuggling. They're obviously hiding something, not to mention they requested the video to not be shown to the public. They cheated the climbers.
@@spiritdox9774 I mean as usual it all comes down to money. Setting up an investigation at that location probably cost a fortune that they didnt want to pay
@@DevinEMILE we both know that is a lie.
@@spiritdox9774 Why this world runs on money. Sure there might be some darker motives here but hell if they wont make money from it they may not do it
If Greg Feith is in charge, you know the investigation on his end did all it could. He literally refused to give up on any accident he investigated and was determined to find it no matter what. He and Bob Benzon have excellent reputations when it comes to air crash investigating and are both extremely open and willing to talk about their experiences.
This doesn’t seem like all that much of a mystery. Cartels were probably up and out of there w/the black box and all the booger sugar before anyone even knew what happened.
Booger sugar 💀💀
Stinks of furbies being incompetent involvement, tbh. Bolivia has always been a hotbed for their illegal activities in the past.
That is very probable
Yup, AND anyone who was still alive is toiling away somewhere making more nose gold to this day.
But why leave behind $1 million in contraband and hide all the bodies? I think the lack of human remains definitely makes it extra weird.
“Snow, flower, noise candy, energy powder” really gotta keep that monetization!! Why not make it creative 😂
Nicknames from the LP area: Bolivian Baby Powder, Peruvian Pixie Dust, Columbian Bam Bam, Chilean Cooking Seasoning.
Yeah all those terms are all tongue in cheek street names for cocaine, he's not the first one to come up with them. Hell I've even heard "white girl". Anyone who's been around those drugs already know.
Yeah I’ve heard them before this, I’ve heard “white lady” too
My fave is booger sugar.
I just thought he would pick one and stick with it but he kept changing the nickname
You can be sure when a company/agency actively avoids something that otherwise would require their immediate attention, they had a hand in the planning/execution/cover up.
You've not been very sociable during quarantine
You’ve not been very sociable during quarantine
this is random but !! your profile picture is cute and i hope you have a lovely day 🥺
@@jellybeanjustin82 thank you
You can say, he's been *barely sociable*
he’s _social distancing_
That's prime latinamerican culture.
"Bro I'm dying please help."
"Aight bro, here you go, some kool-aids and a coke."
Except it's actual cocaine and not just soda
@Random_Person 73 bruh i still remember how as kids we would get absolutely fucked up playing outside in school and then they'd give us candy and tell us it was medicine
After seeing how South Korea handled the Sewol Ferry, this is probably a global issue... can't trust our leaders for shit except take our taxes religiously.
More like western govs making money off the illegal drug trade at the cost of L.A. lives.
Didn't do much for new Orleans after Katrina
This man did everything he possibly could to avoid saying "Cocaine" or "Marijuana"
Gotta stay monotized
"Energy powder" had me LOL 😆
Couldn't even bothered to use drugs and had to type out contraband as a whole.
VACATION JUICE
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
There absolutely needs to be a group that just digs up information like this and brings the people involved to justice.
There are SO MANY guilty parties involved.
SOMEONE knows something and is sitting pretty in some mansion funded by alligator skins
Seems an awful lot like someone doesn’t want that black box to be found...very fishy
Well done Sherlock...You figured that out all by yourself..gosh you are smart..
@@kittyhawk9707 😂😂
@@kittyhawk9707 What are you trying to accomplish with this comment?
So everyone on that passenger manifest is actually MISSING, as there appears to be zero evidence they died in the crash, or were even on the plane in the first place.
YESS
That doesnt make any sense
@@caster2608 How so? There's literally zero evidence they died, no ME in the US would issue a death certificate in this case, ever, period.
Thanks man I can’t sleep now
@@jeremiahbarron2158 You probably couldn't sleep anyways 🤷♂️
Greg Feith has his own podcast and he talked about his experience investigating this crash, it's on episode 33 of the Flight Safety Detectives.
Love that dude
That was just a teaser. Where's the rest of the investigation? I have a minor in crash investigation from ERAU Prescott under Bill Waldock.
Linkkkkkkk
@@JimmyJames10-k7v I’m here with You on this day
Awesome, thanks!
NTSB for other air crashes: Sherlock Holmes
NTSB for this: Mr Magoo
It makes sense that the final destination is Miami. There’s ALOT of snow there.
TheDodicat o but it does👃🏽❄️
@TheDodicat ooo Miami best place to get some snow forsure.
This is from the 80s too when Scarface Film was Set. In the film the ice also came from bolivia. Tö Miami.
They were smuggling for Frank and Diaz Brothers
Miami has the most snow in the us despite being the mainland state closest to the equator
I believe the crash was planned. The people that were supposed to be on board, the lack of proper investigation, the black box being completely gone besides a few pieces of the outer shell, the reports of parts falling the flight plan not physically allowing said parts to fall where they supposedly did or the crash site. Nothing but the key details have remained lost.
My biggest point of confusion is that SOMEHOW, the plane split along the cabin so that the tail was intact but not much else was found while also having parts claimed to be dropped over a town MILES away with the flight plan not physically allowing either the parts falling or the crash to happen. I personally can't see it being anything but direct and intentional sabotage.
by who and what for?
@@commander31able60 Pablo Escobar had multiple flights bombed in his war against the Colombian government, you'd be surprised the kind of crazy shit that goes on in narco wars.
@lesterBonz finally a reasonable answer.
To answer both your questions:
The tail section is often the most intact part of a plane in a crash, this is for 2 reasons, it is designed to be sturdier, than everything sledge other than the wings especially on a 727 and it is the same physics as a car crash the front acts as a crumple zone taking the energy of the crash so the rear takes massively less force than the front in a head on collision.
In response to parts falling in the proposed location, where is the evidence? Why were these parts never found? eyewitness testimonies can be sketchy at the best of times especially in the conditions that this crash occurred in.
The simplest explanation for this crash is like so many crashes before and after it the plane was off course and the pilots didn’t realise either due to faulty navigational systems or pilot error this lead to controlled flight into terrain. Possibly the pilots realised at the last minute and spooled the engines to try and climb out. The plane breaks apart into many parts which are embedded into the snow and bodies are flung from the plane. The black boxes are also knocked loose into the snow. The first expedition was an expedition of untrained locals who didn’t know exactly what items they were looking for and how to look for them. The Bolivian government can be explained purely by incompetent investigating, which once again we have seen in the past. Look how closed governments react to plane crashes in their jurisdiction they always close down information streams first, this was most likely why the initial climbers were threatened. They don’t like looking weak and especially when the crash involves Americans.
@@mattj3864 Given the findings of contraband in the wreckage, and the many connections Eastern had with drug smuggling, its clear to me that some amount of bribery occurred, either of the Bolivian government or the NTSB, which lead to so little funding or effort being put in recovering the aircraft. I agree that the eyewitness reports of falling debris are unreliable, and we shouldn't jump to conclusions that the crash was intentionally caused, but I think its safe to say that the crash itself was intentionally covered up by some party connected to the Eastern scandals. I would agree that the Bolivian government nowadays is probably just "covering it up" to prevent bad publicity or show how incompetent they are, rather than a continuing conspiracy of the crash and what occurred.
absolutely fuckin excellent work as always! the editing here is incredible, and i can honestly say this is the first time in a while that i've really sat and *watched* a video! the visuals were very eye catching and visually pleasing. i especially liked the little planes ;^) tbh this might be my new favorite of yours, mr. barely. wonderful job, and thanks for linking me!
W8 how tf do ya have a comment 2 hours ago!? What? Barely sociable cover this mystery in the next video!
Ton Of Gaming the video probably went live to donators early
@@imsensei3255 probably patron my guy
check out Lemmino bro!
lmfao yall i’m subbed and got it early. chill
I got literal chills in my spine when the footprints were mentioned. Based on this video, a few things are likely true:
- The true cause of the crash was never meant to be discovered by the Bolivians or Paraguayans
- The Bolivian government wanted to halt the NTSB's investigation at best (kill them at worst)
- The black box was recovered, and/or intentionally destroyed, by someone who was never listed as being on an expedition
- The bodies were recovered, or destroyed, by someone (who again, was never someone publicly listed on an expedition)
- The NTSB was either incompetent, did not want to find the cause of the crash, or some combo of both
This might be a stretch (especially considering that there is literally no proof of it), but I think one possibility is that the cartel itself was involved in the compromised investigation DRIECTLY, either by sending cartel members or contracted locals up to sabotage the crash site.
I just came back to this video to re-watch after a few years. What about the possibility of the black box being removed before the plane even left the airport? Picture this scenario:
-bad guys have a man inside the airport the plane left from
-they pay the inside man to enter the plane and remove the black box during maintenance
I'm not knowledgeable enough on aircraft to know whether the black box being removed would be known to the pilots, through a warning light or such, but if not then they would have no idea something was amiss. And if there was a warning, the maintenance worker, with knowledge on the aircraft and it's systems, could've disabled this warning.
The final part of this puzzle is how the plane crashed. with the aircraft sitting for 30 years it's unlikely any cause could be determined right?
And there's still the case of that town hearing a loud bang. If the plane was shot down or damaged, surely there'd be burn marks or visible damage on the plane. at the site that would look different from the damage caused by the crash itself.
Phew now that was a mystery that kept me on the edge of my seat. How much money was involved to allow for a cover-up like this to happen in the first place?
Personally I'm placing my money on someone else having been up there beforehand to recover the black box, even if this opens up questions as to why they didn't recover the animal skins for example....
God the worst part about these mysteries really is the fact that they're open ended. Nonetheless thank you for the great execution on this documentary and keep up the fantastic work!
How 4 hours ago
@@asda.2 maybe it was unlisted first? Idk
Perhaps there was *other* contraband recovered, and the skins, not being nearly as elicit, were left behind?
@A Pair of Glasses yes
@@travispluid3603 makes more sense then
the amount of drug names you gave cracked me up, "flour" "Snow" "nose candy"
Lol gotta be creative to avoid youtube censors
its flower. aka weed
@@enotj How the hell is weed called flower?? I was like.. dafuq mate?? Thought he made a mistake. Coz flower sounds like "flour", which would be the same kind of nickname as snow, i.e. hinting at coke, not weed. So why did he say it? Is it even commonly used?? Isn't weed called grass or green or herbs usually, just to name a few? You know, something that actually resembles the substance in question?? And yes, I'm obviously aware, that the part from the plant being harvested, which commonly is known as weed, are the "flowers". The "brown" on the other hand is extracted from the stem.
@@Superknullisch are you actually dumb?
@@delotrium6207 Gonna be real with you, choosing a homophone to a euphemism about the other drug being mentioned is a bad idea, if it really is, which, uh, I've never actually heard "flower" used as a euphemism, but that's just anecdotal. Maybe it is. Dunno.
We can all tell this was just a drug deal gone wrong
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Love how well this is narrated I don't even have to have the display on I can just listen to the video and literally picture it in my head.
Barely Sociable: "and have a goodnight"
me staring directly in the sunlight, blinded by its beauty: "ahh yes, the night"
Ahhh...time zones what a beautiful thing
Theory videos lose half their fun when it ain't 2am.
My heart goes out to the victims families. Nobody deserves this fate, hopefully one day people will find the blackbox.
This is legit why I refuse to fly. I understand there's a higher risk driving or by boat, but at least I can somewhat feel in control.
@@johnathonhyer9550 and can be found, somewhat.
They'll never "find" the black box. It's obvious certain people don't want it found.
There is no way in hell that these people let the bkack box sit there decades. They surely got it already and probably destroyed the evidence
"they were smuggling snow"
"what"
"yknow.... Flour."
"what are you taking about?"
".... cmom..... nose candy"
*_e n e r g y p o w d e r_*
@@SmokeyEdits KOOL AID
O H Y E A H
C M O M
@@nightdivination89 Cmom, cdad, csister, cbrother. It's a whole cfamily!
He said "Flower" in reference to the flowers of the cannabis plant. Homonyms can be confusing.
I just came across your channel and I have to say it's an awesome find!! Your production value is over the top.... music, visuals, subjects and your research is all pro!!! I thought I could listen to the program while I'm building a rodin coil or whatever. But instead I'm glued to the screen holding a hot soldering iron or some tool completely engaged with the program. Thanks for ALL your efforts...it shows.
As a Bolivian I have to say that I never heard of this crash before this video, thanks Barely Sociable, this was a very interesting and well produced video, also I'm not surprised about the lack of interest of the government in investigating the crash, in 1985 Bolivia was in the middle of its most severe economical crisis, and social unrest, the presidential elections were held in 1985 (1 year earlier than it should) due to the social and economical chaos, I'm not justifying the mishandling of the investigation but I think Bolivia had most important matters to deal at the time.
Keep the good work, I enjoy your content.
P.S those 600 USD would have been about 450000000 pesos Bolivianos due to the hyperinflation Bolivia was suffering.
Sounds like Venezuela in 2019
@@PauloGarcia-sp5ws lmaoo
It is interesting that despite all that, it seems none of the other countries involved were willing to help with the investigation. Im sure the US could have coughed up some more resources to investigate the death of their citizens.
@@Giaphaige Like, fuck, the US has gone to *War* over the death of US Citizens.
@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim Oh yeah, I know they dont really care, but usually plane crashes are such a big thing everyone rushes to investigate.
Hitchhikers: Please "We actually need stoves to get warm food!"
Red Cross: *Kool-Aid, take it or leave it*
Why fo i see you in every comment section ever
hitchhikers???
I guess we have more than one thing in common. (:
Hitchhikers?
Kool-Aid is really just another word for Cold-Help
"Widow climbs 19,000-ft mountain of ice... to say goodbye to her dead husband!" Idk man this one just got me
Edit fixed it to 19k thanks for those that let me know
Thats love
Mad respect.
That's the official story, what really happened is he was cheating and she came to yell at him and have sex with her new boo
Yes because a frozen corpse cares.
@@jintarokensei3308 not everyone feels that way. it's important to say goodbye to be able to grieve properly.
Man you really are such a talented story teller, so glad I found this channel.
My guess is that the black box was found by the first searchers and it was confiscated , never to be seen by the public.
well yeah lol
yup. 18 minutes after it aired on the news.
might have been taken off before the filght too
@@toastytoast9800 no. they found it. weren't you paying attention? it was busted up into pieces. one of the searchers took it home with him in a box
@@marifromky what are you talking about it was never found. hikers in 2017 thought they found it but it was a recording of Eye Spy
I worked at EA in the mid 1980’s. During that period, Miami was the capital for drugs entering the US. I’m absolutely sure that every airline servicing south and Central America at that time unknowingly brought contraband into the country. I’m also sure that some airline personnel were also involved in this.
Everyone was involved. Some knew 'what' and maybe one 'who', while most just did what they were told and obeyed orders so they'd see the next sunrise. Ships too.
I watched a DePalma documentary on one of the aspiring executives during this time, and it did seem quite turbulent
@@P_RO_Ask any longshoreman, there's certain shipping crates you don't even walk near.
Youre almost correct, the only thing you got wrong is „unknowingly”
Poor Americans, they were forced to receive contraband from South and Central America 😢😢😢😢
Man, you cover some of the most interesting stuff. Nice job on this one, it has me doing tons of side research on stuff as I watch, absolutely fascinated by this story.
Thank you!
I came into a conclusion that being buried alive over a plane crash is my very specific nightmare. They always be so deep into the ground and there’s no way anyone able to took our body out.
I was a fan, but now Iam an air conditioner.
it got super hot suddenly. can you come help cool the house down LOLOL
You are not a fan, you're the entire AC unit
I’d say I’m a swamp cooler
@@innactive8909 ah so you don't work in Florida
EJ
Bjejijaj
What is this? A Lemino documentary? Also? "short"? This is 30minutes. This is ages in internet time.
Short compared to the Silk Road video, lol. (Which I really enjoyed, so, no complaints here!)
Way better than 10 minute long videos that arent even interestingly told
Way better than 10 minute long videos that arent even interestingly told
So interesting and well done, i watched the whole thing
You aren't watching the right videos my man, 30 minutes is average
Air Crash Investigation : *Stops airing*
Lemmino : *Looks like a job for me*
Barely Sociable : *Make it double*
I love that show!
TheFlightChannel aswell
Team rocket: prepare for trouble
14:25 Greg is a legend. & very media friendly. Given your reputation, I bet you if you contacted him he just may speak to you about this. Even if it’s limited on what he can disclose, this may be worth the email.
Edit: I’m in shambles laughing at *energy powder* euphemisms 😂
Straight banger
Ayye hello Swamp Dweller! Looking forward to more Crypid Hunter letters!
@@dustinwoodworth1783 I know you're joking, but that's a pretty insensitive remark. (The last part)
@@EMOTIONOGRAPHY you wut m8?
@Hangin around something homophobic I don't really remember
5:14 local villagers... Newpaper: *PEASANTS*
That is pure gold.
Just shows how derogatory the press is
@T Doran yes
@T Doran Exactly?
@@GreekGirl102 @Trac what we find derogatory depends on social standards. Peasants just mean "common people" and might not have been considered derogatory back then. Tomorrow the phrase "common people" could be considered derogatory. Don't come after me for using it.
We want a Collab between him and lemmino 🔥🔥
cum lol
BRUH I was just about to comment this LMAO but yeah, He should collab with him.
YOU READ MY MIND!!! But lemmino is becoming dead now.
Lemmino is basically dead at this point lol
YES YES
Its amazing how these "mysteries" are often related to illegal things.
well, legal things are not nearly as interesting as the possibility of our own CIA (who helped start the drug problem in America) being involved in illegal trade of animal pelts or drugs.
What a creative way to circumvent UA-cam's bubble against snow and flower.
I noticed that which was weird.
bubble? what does that mean?
@@la4381 It's been two months I forgot... sorry.
@@phoenixflames23 Um no. Flower as in Marijuana.
@@steven95N shhhh everyone knows it means daffodils obviously
"An 18 minute recording of the show I Spy" Someone planted that there specifically to fuck with people looking into the crash. How much more obvious can it be?
thats what i thought too
I spy with my little eye someone stupid enough to stick their noses where they shouldn't, here is why **Gunshot**
If you're paranoid and motivated enough to cover something up, you aren't leaving cutesy clues.
Unless you're the Riddler.
@@Sousabird why not? Far as I know, the cartel like to play with their prey.
the way more likely scenario is that one of the passengers took a videotape with a recording of the show on the flight
"Kool-Aid? Why would they send us Kook-Aid?"
"I think it's a sign."
"Sign? What kind of sign?"
"You know. "Drink the Kool-Aid." Get on board with the cover-up."
"Oooooh....."
So true. Drink the Kook-Aid and forget everything.
At least it wasn’t flavor aid
Drinkers of kool aid are those supporters of dementia Joe Biden
LOL maybe it was "enhanced" with nose candy.
@-Can Ameri- their are few those are liberals insane people 😀😀😀
So did they ever recover the alleged plane debris from the village of Cohoni? That would at least confirm a rough KIA location using simulated models of an in flight explosion, show signs of a bomb on board, or rule that out. also how long it took between the explosion being heard and the debris falling, etc.
There's also a bunch of other small villages and settlements nearby, even closer to the alleged impact location. If they existed in that time maybe they could add something as well>?
If you feel like Bolivian government was extremely unhelpful and incompetent, you are right.
I, as a Bolivian myself, have seen the government and the justice fail time after time even on the smallest and easier both crimes and problems involving them that does not bring money or personal gain
This is exactly why I became a subscriber a long time ago, the type of content that you produce is bone chilling, I can get cuddled up in my blanket with chills down my spine and invested so heavily into a video that took so much for you to make, for that I want to thank you and please keep up the good work because you are one badass storyteller/UA-camr ❤
When I subscribed, I thought you'd just be another decent-quality spook mystery channel.
Instead I find myself subscribed to one of the most thorough investigative mystery channels on the site.
I hope you continue to gain recognition, Sociable; this kind and quality of work is extremely time consuming.
I've been binging this channel. Production value is on point. Good break downs and presentations
So they found some human remains eventually, but still super weird that no bodies where reported by the first couple of expeditions. Makes me think all of this is a lot darker than it seems.
What if the people and the black box were removed first and the plane put on the mountain afterwards. And the remains are from the person who had to put it there.
Yes, someone got there very soon after it crashed and cleaned up. The bodies were not taken by animals. There's no animal large enough to be capable of carrying a body that could do it from a narrow airplane aisle while it's locked under a seat belt - And this happened to apparently all 27 people on board no matter where they were in the plane, even the pilots in their 4-point harnesses (not just lap belts). They were not scavenged because scavengers leave evidence of scavenging. The recorders were destroyed which doesn't happen, and a fake tape with "I, Spy" left instead.
The whole thing is a huge neon sign saying "coverup".
@@HappyBeezerStudiosI can’t tell what’s sarcasm anymore
And here I thought you got assassinated by the bitcoin community.
My man said every other word for cocaine to not piss of the youtube algorithm hahaha. Great video nevertheless, mate!
and still demonetized... I got no ads..
Sälis Sälis I’ve got 6 midrolls! :) He deserves to be monetized.
Sälis Sälis i did so we good
Devil's Dandruff.
I got shit ton of adds, he’s good.
Never before have I trusted conspiracy theorists so much more than an official government report
there aren't many reports to begin with. Just vogue paragraphs.
How about Covid? Apparently it came from a bat 😂
@@philmusson1265 Pov: You think it comes from 5g 🤡
@@philmusson1265Because it’s a zoonotic virus.
@philmusson1265 it did it was just being tested but got transmitted
When the red cross gave them kool aid, that's where I lost my shit... bruh I wanna throw hands
A kool move in a cool place you could say
@@abdulrahmanalmojil3574 *Ba-dum TSS*
Expedition:
"We've got no food"
"Oh no"
"Oh no"
"Oh no"
*Koolaid guy appears on side of mountain*
"OH YEAH"
Lmao.
LOL
Epic!
bruh
bruh
lmfao "energy powder"
That’s what I call it I’m not even playing when I say it
Sounds delicious
G-Fuel
That one got me 😂
There were 2,723 pounds of *snow*, over a ton, and 826 pounds of *flower* seized
Ive seen enough Narcos to understand what happened here
if what u think really happened,why was the US governement trying to cover it up?
@M V The tape brought back from the crash site was a video tape of an I Spy episode.
@@akmalwasti4745 We all do crazy things when huffing xannies
The fact that Greg Feith who was one of the lead investigators of the NTSB in the mid to late 90s was able to get to the crash site and not found a CVR or FDR... something definitely shady went on... either the box was removed post crash or the plane never took off with black boxes inside.
Commander Cody it all makes sense now...
Man, the production value on these random 20 min youtube videos is crazy. If you wanted to, I feel like you totally deserve to be put in charge of large project documentary somewhere.
Seriously i tear up between the content and the music. Not like crying tears like chilled/rattled tears
If someone brought me Kool Aid when I asked for a stove and fuel for the freezing weather, I'm gonna wish that Kool Aid got laced with cyanide..
It's the 18 minutes of I Spy that gets me. I guess somebody made an audio recording of a TV episode (not unheard of; people did that going back to the 60s) to listen to privately. But I Spy went off the air in 1968. Someone was listening to TV episode that was more than 15 years old when their plane hit the mountain. They must have really liked that show, and it was the last thing they heard. What a sad, disquieting thought.
Doubly disquieting to think someone's last moments might have been spent listening to Bill Cosby. * shudders *
The tape was a plant, fool.
Thank you for being the (almost) only youtube channel to tell odd events without a try-hard-creepy-voice. Your content is always great. Keep up the great work!
4:30 "hmm, interesting"
*seconds later*
**LOUD ASS PIANO MUSIC**
You can't say cocaine because of demonization? That sucks.
Freaking stupid is what it is
The golden age of youtube is long gone and never coming back. Sad.
That blows.
i blocked ads watching this video. I know right? People like you are just pathetic.
redpepper74 trueee
Everyone talking about this guy's euphemisms for drugs but nobody talking about his buttery smooth voice
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity", unless the stupidity is so egregious that it can only be intentional.
"We need fuel"
"Two gallons of Kool coming right up"
"And some stoves"
"Some clothes? Gotcha."
The last part is stolen 💀
@@breesy555 The last part is stolen from a comment I made at the same time as this one. Check the names on both comments.
What's boggling with this "mishap" alone is even if they had asked for kool aid specifically, they only brought them 2 gallons total! On average we need roughly half gallon per person per day so yea that helps for just about that one day alone~ ludicrous
@@TheDigitalThreat Well, they were given koolaid powder. You actually need very little powder to flavor a bottle of water. So actually, the amount they were given could probably last 4 people like a month or two pretty comfortably.
@@kingghoul2324 Who measures powder by the gallon... lol That says it all.
Bolivia: After much investigation I have come to the conclusion that I didn't do anything wrong
They do that ALL THE FREAKING TIME, "um yeah but it wasn't our fault"
Anyone else notice the newspaper called the people living near the crash site peasants? Like damn, really gonna go there
Heh, it could have been 'campesinos' which can mean country folk or Hillbillies.
I mean, if you aren't in a cartel, government, or any other corrupt part of that shithole country, odds are your poor, starving, and a back woods farmer.
To be fair, peasant is a very old fashioned term for farmers and people who work the land.
Bolivia has a lot of social tensions where people living in the mountains/poor areas were consider low class people, dumb, etc.
@@FSXflyermaster Funny. I came from a remote coal mining town in the US. We have the same problem. The media may not refer to them (I've been in NYC for 25+ yrs) outright as hillbillies, but there's a class divide for sure.
once i heard the widow was able to reach the investigation site it was obvious the professionals had too; there’s no way they didn’t make up there and tamper with the box before civilians got there
Yay, the perfect mystery. With multiple parties having stakes in keeping it that way for possibly a variety of reasons. But there is an open question, that this video doesn't adress: What's behind the report of other debris allegedly falling over the village? Was such debris ever found?
Hey I remember you, how are you?
And too think, all of this could have been avoided if we just legalized drugs.
Chris Jones if you think about it, like 90 % of today problems could be resolved by that
@@Abigart69 Fine, I guess. I don't remember you, though.
@@TheAgamemnon911 ouch lol jk
Minor point of note: There are actually two black boxes. The Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR) and the Flight Data Recorder with the former storing the audio from inside the cockpit, and the latter recording control positions and other critical flight information.
Help I'm on top of the mountain in cold I need food
Red cross : did someone say koolaid?
OH YEAH!!
yer killin' me
The quality of this video is extraordinary ! LOVE IT