The Fate of the Fighting Dinosaurs

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  • @kingcockroach.
    @kingcockroach. 2 роки тому +841

    So excited to see this up online. Had a great time drawing some of these, and hope everyone enjoys this awsome video 😊

    • @kingofwingo
      @kingofwingo 2 роки тому +23

      Did you create the thumbnail?
      Edit: Finishing the video, answered my own question.

    • @kokroucz
      @kokroucz 2 роки тому +9

      I hope you'll read or watch something about blue pigmentation in the nature, i think PBS on YT has some video about it. I also do paleo reconstruction though I mainly work with mammals and I am a strong advocate of observing the extant nature and apply its rules to extinct.
      In short - I would be very cautious with blue as a pigmentation it doesn't really exist.
      the majority of blue comes from the weird proportions of light. the blue of let's say butterfly is an optiulcal illusion, the surface of wing has such structure (somewhat like crytals)that reflects blue light, the pigmentation itself is rather dark. The structural coloration won't work in big animals as the surface is a rather delicate and it wouldn't mantain it's structure with animal that tackles the life with "head on" ;)

    • @kingcockroach.
      @kingcockroach. 2 роки тому +30

      @@kokroucz i understand what you are saying but blue is seen in both reptiles and living dinosaurs. Its something i studied for my dissertation into dinosaur pigmentation. Realistically any colour seen in skin and scales today is viable in dinosauria. And as for big animal these species were very small, and alreaddy put allot of effort and energy into display structures so bright skin colourations would be logical with such anatomy. In this reconstruction the colour is not bright and is simmilar to colours of collar lizards and bird skin in a number of animals. Ceratopsians also had very small rounded scales which would allow for a fair ammount of colouration especially on a smaller grouping such as protoceratopcians. I had done a few months of research prior to these for another project but i only started paleoart maybe 7 months ago so i still have much to work out 😊

    • @Weirdkauz
      @Weirdkauz 2 роки тому +4

      @@kokroucz very interesting, and the most impressive example is the Hyacinth Ara, but what tickles me is the fact that King Cockroach answered a common Kokroucz... or am I mistaken in that your name is pronounced cockroach? Very interesting creatures, those, by the way, so I see no shade in that, even if I'm wrong.

    • @apexnext
      @apexnext 2 роки тому +3

      ​@@kingcockroach. I loved the art in this video!
      Thank you for creating it and engaging in the comments. 😎👍
      I didn't realize the connection that Paleontology and Artwork had until recently. But they go hand in hand so often.
      There is no other way to visualize fossils without creating art.
      After watching some Paleontology videos I wonder why we don't go wild with frills, feathers, colors, even shape when it comes to muscle and cartilage. All we have is fossils and science involving those fossils.
      These creatures really could be more wild and robust than we might ever be able to assume.
      Just in my lifetime we learned to accept how many had feathers. In school they were still _lizards_
      I bet there were some real weirdos back then. 🤪

  • @williamballard767
    @williamballard767 2 роки тому +23

    adding in Mongolian Throat-singing was a perfect touch, Kudos!

  • @mikehawk4388
    @mikehawk4388 2 роки тому +376

    Ahhh, I remember seeing this specimen in person when I was a kid. They displayed it next to a scale statue pointing out what was what, but MAN they didn't need it. It was so clear-cut that it was a pair of once-living ancient creatures. Idk how to describe it, but it felt sacred to be around. Like their ghosts might as well have been in the room.

    • @freshquandel
      @freshquandel 2 роки тому +11

      Where did you see it I NEED IT

    • @fatehsinghbedi9042
      @fatehsinghbedi9042 2 роки тому +9

      It mustve been a noble fight , like a fight between two warriors.

    • @achair7265
      @achair7265 2 роки тому +17

      @@fatehsinghbedi9042 Two animals. Predator and prey. Both desperate. Who is strong who is weak? Only the rules of nature can answer for it planned such display.

    • @apexnext
      @apexnext 2 роки тому +20

      Dunno why you are all talking in past tense..
      Because that battle has never ended...
      ⚔️

    • @KingDrakoTyrell
      @KingDrakoTyrell Рік тому +5

      @@apexnext whoever’s skeleton gets bombed or stolen last is the winner 🏆

  • @badfaithnomination
    @badfaithnomination 2 роки тому +82

    One of my favorite aspects of paleontology is just how much it has in common with forensics. Your dramatic reconstruction of their final moments is proof of this. Thanks for making this video, as it is my favorite fossil as well.

    • @apexnext
      @apexnext 2 роки тому +7

      Yeah another Paleo UA-camr said something that really stuck with me, I paraphrase,
      _You're seeing every animal in its moment of death_
      I never really grasped that before. You can't see it's day to day life. How it moves or reacts. Only it's deathbed scene is preserved.
      It was *Paleo Analysis* if anyone is curious.

  • @joshuawilliamson1918
    @joshuawilliamson1918 11 місяців тому +22

    Bro really took us to Mongolia and the sound track changed to throat singing?! I’m throughly impressed ain’t nothing budget about this museum.

  • @sterlingnilssen5812
    @sterlingnilssen5812 2 роки тому +85

    This is the best explanation I’ve ever heard for this fossil. Simply wonderful my friend.

  • @Mikau888
    @Mikau888 2 роки тому +186

    God damn. This is not budget museum, this is full-priced, excellent production right here. The art and narration was awesome. Can't wait until you come back with a new video! This has become one of my favorite channels recently, so I guess I'll bide my time by rewatching all of your videos, haha. Cheers

  • @KrazyKaiser
    @KrazyKaiser Рік тому +2

    Excellent choice to have Mongolian Throat singing as the music for this one.

  • @josephdavis1633
    @josephdavis1633 2 роки тому +11

    this is, by far, my current favorite channel. I look forward to every upload like its the NBA finals

  • @prototropo
    @prototropo Рік тому +4

    We may never see a live dinosaur, but thanks to wonderful channels like Budget Museum, we are living in a golden age of paleontologic art, excavation, research and characterization.

  • @violetkittens8859
    @violetkittens8859 2 роки тому +3

    Please come back I need more cozy but super educational and interesting videos

  • @Murammassa
    @Murammassa 2 роки тому +18

    Appreciate the Mongolian throat singing as background music

  • @richarddelo3506
    @richarddelo3506 2 роки тому +12

    Thank you for the informative video. You have a gift of simply communicating information-packed speech while keeping things interesting at the same time.

  • @ItsDylanHarding
    @ItsDylanHarding 2 роки тому +6

    Never stop making this content, it’s quality comfort viewing to the max.

  • @Paunguliaq
    @Paunguliaq 2 роки тому +7

    I had never heard of or seen this fossil. Your well-made and researched video brings this alive and makes it unforgettable. I agree, This is the greatest fossil I have ever seen..

  • @RAFMnBgaming
    @RAFMnBgaming 2 роки тому +31

    I'd never heard of this before but this is such a cool introduction to it.

  • @TheEvilpossum
    @TheEvilpossum 2 роки тому +24

    I've always thought the likeliest scenario is that the protoceratops was already buried or half buried, and the raptor attacked while it was trying to get free. That would also
    strongly suggest V mongoliensis would have left the larger dinos alone under normal circumstances.

    • @douggaudiosi14
      @douggaudiosi14 2 роки тому +1

      Could be plausible It would explain why that lil Guys massive balls weren't preserved attacking something almost twice his size

  • @josiebianchi3481
    @josiebianchi3481 Рік тому +5

    Imagine you're trekking through the Gobi desert when a storm kicks up out of nowhere and on the horizon you see two ghost dinosaurs locked in a millions-of-years-old battle.

  • @somedudeonyoutube8079
    @somedudeonyoutube8079 2 роки тому +10

    I was actually thinking about this the other day and I’m so glad you also think this is the best fossil ever.

  • @ExtinctZoo
    @ExtinctZoo 2 роки тому +2

    I remember first hearing about this duel on white tips journey documentary, what a throwback lol

  • @Mussoi7000
    @Mussoi7000 2 роки тому +9

    This one has always been a personal favorite of mine. I had this dinosaur sticker album when i was a kid and i remember thinking that the fighting dinosaurs stickers were so cool. That was also the only sticker album i ever completed i think.

    • @doodlegirl1111
      @doodlegirl1111 Рік тому +1

      I also had a dino sicker album as a kid! Totally forgot about it until this comment. A lot of Gobi desert specimens in there now that I think back

  • @linnylinlinlin
    @linnylinlinlin 2 роки тому +16

    The dinosaur-obsessed kid part of me thanks you for this video! I hope you have a good hiatus and take care 🦖

  • @TheBestAround131
    @TheBestAround131 2 роки тому +26

    "Don't forget that for a long time, dinosaurs were viewed as sluggish and lazy animals."
    Yeah, we humans tend to forget that animals we perceive as dumb and unevolved have lasted millions upon millions of years longer than we have and will continue to exist long after we've gone extinct. With great arrogance comes great stupidity! XD

  • @gwynnew317
    @gwynnew317 Рік тому +2

    This is truly amazing! Not budget at all. Fantastic production! Thank you for sharing!!

  • @RisingSunfish
    @RisingSunfish 2 роки тому +86

    My main takeaway, for better or worse, is that this fossil would be FANTASTIC inspiration for a pair of Fossil Pokémon with a Zangoose/Seviper-esque rivalry. Like their final battle was immortalized so completely that it would settle into the very DNA of both species.
    Now that I got that out of the way, this was a thoroughly engrossing video and I’d love to see you elaborate on more famous fossils! Of course I should probably start on your back-catalogue first, huh. 😜

    • @sthui2866
      @sthui2866 2 роки тому

      We have bastiodon and -zolt.

    • @apexnext
      @apexnext 2 роки тому +1

      Both Pokemon have fainted... *forever!*

  • @takenname8053
    @takenname8053 2 роки тому +8

    Nice, willing to wait for more videos if they're this good!

  • @gobeaugo
    @gobeaugo 2 роки тому +1

    Probably the most enlightening episode oh your list.

  • @johnpaleontology
    @johnpaleontology Рік тому +3

    And now there's a new fossil about a mammal fighting a dinosaur. Repenomamus fighting a Psitacosaurus to be exact.

  • @alantremonti1381
    @alantremonti1381 Рік тому +2

    This video was so atmospheric. Well done!

  • @darkpurpleshadow3240
    @darkpurpleshadow3240 Рік тому +1

    Really enjoying this channel. You are a gem 💎

  • @guillermolarios3913
    @guillermolarios3913 2 роки тому +2

    I absolutely loved this one, as the narration happened I was imagining frame by frame the brawl.
    Thank you, hugs from Costa Rica ✌

  • @stupidminotaur9735
    @stupidminotaur9735 2 роки тому +3

    For those who don't know there's an extreme well done tv show that shows this fight scene. very well done i think it was done in 2000's

  • @HersheyandStuff
    @HersheyandStuff 2 роки тому +1

    This is quickly becoming my favorite UA-cam channel

  • @jonathanchild7025
    @jonathanchild7025 2 роки тому +2

    I love you stuff. I’m happy to see you posting

  • @mistral_uk
    @mistral_uk 2 роки тому +3

    Fantastic video. Didn't want it to end. Thanks for making this!

  • @chrisball3778
    @chrisball3778 2 роки тому +15

    Seeing as the adult Protoceratops would be an improbably large prey item for a lone Velociraptor, and Protoceratops are thought to have been social animals, I wonder if the Protoceratops might have died protecting its young, or the young of its herd? It's pure speculation, but it doesn't seem impossible, and it adds yet another layer of drama to the scenario.

  • @cheyennereynoso4116
    @cheyennereynoso4116 2 роки тому +10

    It’s crazy how long ago that happened. They died a long, long time ago.

  • @panqueque445
    @panqueque445 2 роки тому +33

    Poor raptor got vibe checked by a prehistoric cow and life decided to preserve that L and put it on blast for everyone to see.

  • @jondunmore4268
    @jondunmore4268 Рік тому +3

    11:42 -- I agree we have to overhaul our visual preconceptions of Velociraptor after JURASSIC PARK did such damage to the brand... but this furry birdy look is hilarious.

  • @Irma_Vep
    @Irma_Vep 2 роки тому +3

    Always look forward to a new upload. Just showed a friend the Sloth and Know your Bears vid. Love your stuff.

  • @SableScimitar
    @SableScimitar 2 роки тому +2

    Weirdly this didn’t show up in my subscription feed? Amazing work once again though!

  • @blockednostril9739
    @blockednostril9739 2 роки тому +10

    I would like more of these style videos for other famous finds! This was a fantastic watch, both the truth and speculation blend so well!

  • @wesleymynatt1549
    @wesleymynatt1549 2 роки тому +2

    This channel is so good. I'm always glad to see new uploads.

  • @yunghelmet6847
    @yunghelmet6847 2 роки тому +2

    This video has too few views, my man was literally writing fire when he made the script and this fossil changed the fundamental way we look at dinosaurs. My personal favorite paleontology video.

  • @GiantFlyingFoxes
    @GiantFlyingFoxes 2 роки тому +3

    Awesome documentary, thank you!

  • @cheyennereynoso4116
    @cheyennereynoso4116 2 роки тому +1

    This is one my favorite channels; I always get a little hit of dopamine when the video starts.

  • @grasicapiasecka2149
    @grasicapiasecka2149 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you, I love your narrative, you are the best ❤️

  • @lavenderlavender3952
    @lavenderlavender3952 2 роки тому +2

    Happy to see the third floor completed!

  • @jayw9267
    @jayw9267 2 роки тому +3

    Just wanted to let you know I love your videos! I only just realized that not all of your vids are getting 1M+ views and it saddens me because they’re very worthy of it. Thank you for providing us with entertainment.

  • @______Daniel
    @______Daniel 2 роки тому +10

    I’m a huge fan, and all your videos are great, but this seemed like a new step for you, in a gradual but significant way. Proud of you mate, it’s fun to watch you grow.

  • @PamSesheta
    @PamSesheta Рік тому +1

    Halszkaraptor is my new favorite dinosaur

  • @Chewbaccafruit
    @Chewbaccafruit 2 роки тому +4

    Your work makes me want to learn animation and make my own videos. I worked in science education and your approachable style of explaining is addictive.

  • @chaytonsheargold3210
    @chaytonsheargold3210 2 роки тому +1

    Chills man, chills. This video and your presentation was absolutely perfect . Very very well made.

  • @davidandres4846
    @davidandres4846 2 роки тому +3

    Just came across your channel. I found you in the recommended while watching a TreyTheExplainer video. I've watched a few of your videos and love the content. Keep up the good work. I just subscribed.

  • @MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou
    @MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou 2 роки тому +10

    You released this video on my birthday; I couldn't think of a better birthday present than a new video from The Budget Museum.
    Love your use of music, by the way. Not just on this video, but in others. I remember one of them used "Bethena" by Scott Joplin, and I was left thinking, _"Learning about prehistoric animals to ragtime...now _*_this_*_ is perfection."_

  • @manduul.bakhdal
    @manduul.bakhdal 2 роки тому +2

    I remember seeing it in the natural history museum when I was 3 or 4.

  • @T15290
    @T15290 2 роки тому +8

    This channel has rapidly become my favorite natural history channel on UA-cam, which is no small feat among such an exceptional field. Keep it up!

  • @mbunds
    @mbunds 2 роки тому +8

    Excellent presentation, as usual! That was a lot of research into Gobi desert paleontology, we would love to see more, thanks!

  • @bigcarp2509
    @bigcarp2509 2 роки тому +2

    Nice detail with using Mongolian throat singing as background music during the exploration part

  • @joekerr22
    @joekerr22 2 роки тому +1

    Sometimes, the narrative outweighs the visuals. You provide a compelling, interesting, scientific, and fun experience. I love the channel and am definitely subscribing.

  • @laikatuttle521
    @laikatuttle521 2 роки тому +1

    Just want to say that you're my favorite UA-cam chancel, keep up the good work! I can't wait for more to come

  • @arthurroseart
    @arthurroseart 2 роки тому +4

    Have a good break man, thanks for such awesome interesting content! Never even knew about these guys!!

  • @esmedientes
    @esmedientes 7 місяців тому

    This video gave me chills. Fantastic work, I love this channel so much.

  • @thiagobulhoesvianna
    @thiagobulhoesvianna 2 роки тому +2

    This video should be named "the best dinosaur fossil ever found" :)

  • @kingofwingo
    @kingofwingo 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome as always, great work.

  • @cheyennereynoso4116
    @cheyennereynoso4116 2 роки тому +1

    Keep up the great work! I’ll be here when you upload again 💪🏼😎👍🏼

  • @HobGungan
    @HobGungan 2 роки тому +94

    Just a reminder that due to reasons involving the source Micheal Chrichton used for research carrying a theory that was quickly shot down by the scientific community, the "Velociraptors" in Jurassic Park were actually Deinonychus, and comparisons for accuracy should be done for that animal instead.

    • @TheBestAround131
      @TheBestAround131 2 роки тому +12

      Didn't Michael Crichton basically call them Velociraptors because he thought that name sounded cooler than Deinonychus? I could be wrong, and I hope I am, 'cause in my opinion, Deinonychus sounds way cooler than Velociraptor.

    • @HobGungan
      @HobGungan 2 роки тому +41

      @@TheBestAround131 You're about 1/4 right. The book Chrichton used for research for the novel hypothosized that Deinonychus didn't deserve it's own genera and should have been considered a species of Velociraptor. After the novel came out, that hypothesis was nixed, and it was *Spielberg* that opted not to change the name back for the movie adaptation because it "sounded cooler".

    • @boreopithecus
      @boreopithecus 2 роки тому +2

      The movie ones are too big to be Deinonychus though. I just think of them as an unspecified dromeosaurid.

    • @HobGungan
      @HobGungan 2 роки тому +11

      @@boreopithecus They're only about a head taller than the largest known deinonycus, and they're not quite as long. They're exaggerated, but not that much on balance.

    • @legakattack4771
      @legakattack4771 2 роки тому +4

      They're utahraptors

  • @SKMisaac
    @SKMisaac 2 роки тому +3

    Very good video man. Love your channel! Keep it up buddy, enjoy your brake

  • @bradsullivan2298
    @bradsullivan2298 2 роки тому +1

    Well done Budget Museum!

  • @MatthewCampbell765
    @MatthewCampbell765 2 роки тому +2

    For what it's worth, to my understanding there was a mix-up when writing Jurassic Park, the animal the book intended to describe is actually a Deinonychus.

  • @kandikaine110
    @kandikaine110 2 роки тому +5

    You did awesome explaining this video. I can tell you've caught wind of veggie man. Goodluck on your hunt!
    On a real note, I've been enjoying your content for a long time and I hope this hiatus treats you well!

  • @DoodersDen
    @DoodersDen 2 роки тому +5

    Phenomenal video! An absolutely amazing watch and one that makes me want to write and produce more videos of my own! The amount of work put into and the pure quality of the production that this video had is incredible! Great job!! I've learned so much!

    • @DoodersDen
      @DoodersDen 2 роки тому

      7:40 I will say though, I'm not so sure about that statement.. including the term "dimwitted" lol

  • @Weirdkauz
    @Weirdkauz 2 роки тому +2

    Gorgeous video! Thank you very much!
    Maybe the Protoceratops was missing a leg when the fight started? Maybe he was retreating from its herd to die...

  • @AkiraSatou
    @AkiraSatou Рік тому

    How lucky we are to witness such a duel locked in the sands of time from an era our intelligence can only dream about. Filled with wonder we great apes are insatiably curious, and our land has blessed us with these fossils of times past.

  • @Hankthestank04
    @Hankthestank04 2 роки тому +2

    I love this one

  • @teddyboukagain9985
    @teddyboukagain9985 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent video as always.

  • @ussnorthcarolinabb-5517
    @ussnorthcarolinabb-5517 2 роки тому +2

    Damn, this is probably your best video yet. Also TIL velociraptors are very small.

  • @sabysan4601
    @sabysan4601 2 роки тому +7

    This will come out on my bday!! The best gift ever hahaha :>

  • @Tungdil_01
    @Tungdil_01 2 роки тому

    It's a nice touch to have the soundtrack as the Mongolian singing throat

  •  2 роки тому +3

    What if the ceratopsian had a missing leg for whatever reason and that's what prompted the velociraptor to attack, assuming it was weak and wouldn't be able to put a fight?

  • @SpiteBellow
    @SpiteBellow 2 роки тому +2

    Something about deserts always seems timeless

  • @k45207
    @k45207 2 роки тому

    7:48 Dang dimwitted dinosaurs, shots fired!

  • @ze3v
    @ze3v 2 роки тому +5

    17:30 i personally think the protoceritops (proto for short) , once covered by sand, had part of it sticking out, maybe? And some scavengers came to munch on the exposed legs, causing the seen damage. Not trying to pull the whole thing out, probably just having the animal pull apart partially?

  • @benmcreynolds8581
    @benmcreynolds8581 2 роки тому +7

    (Loved this video!) I think the protoceratops limbs could have been a result of the impact of the collapsing dune, and actually act as further evidence of your idea of a quick engulfment.. Maybe the limbs were the easiest things to get effected by the sand dune and so they rested away from the main site. Then maybe over time (millions of years) the loose limbs easily were able to move and find their own resting places over time either in the sediment or washed away and repositioned over the course of time? Who knows? Could have been Disturbed by predators but once they were away from the main bodies of the 2 animals. The Fossil probably would have been a lot more disturbed and messed with if it had any predators find it and scavenge off of it..

  • @dapper-ant2634
    @dapper-ant2634 Рік тому +2

    My personal favorite fossil is the one of the animals snuggling because one of them saught shelter in the others burrow and them they either got flooded or the burrow collapsed and killed them. I don't have perfect memory and I'm a very casual paleontology fan so if I got that wrong I would genuinely love to know the real story

  • @kuitaranheatmorus9932
    @kuitaranheatmorus9932 2 роки тому +1

    Welcome back and yes this video was awesome

  • @preservinghistory84
    @preservinghistory84 2 роки тому +1

    I’m a pretty new subscriber to The Budget Museum and I absolutely love it. Your films are amazing and so well-made, the topics are interesting, and the narrative style *slays* me. Bravo to you, and thanks so much, from a former museum curator.

  • @donjuan2001
    @donjuan2001 2 роки тому +2

    Talk about a stalemate

  • @maryellen1952
    @maryellen1952 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for another interesting dinosaur podcast!

  • @RafaCB0987
    @RafaCB0987 2 роки тому

    A truly work of art this video

  • @HellaTeeth
    @HellaTeeth 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent work as always, TBM. Thank you for the education and may your hiatus be fruitful.

  • @cnmpscy34
    @cnmpscy34 Рік тому

    Awesomely great narration

  • @michaelhanford8139
    @michaelhanford8139 Рік тому

    'More like a painting (sculpture?) than a fossil'
    😍😍😍😍
    Absolutely! Art is that which evokes emotion &/or visceral reactions.
    This *is* a rather epic & timeless as well as primal - life, death, struggle to eat followed by a poetic joint struggle to live....or they were too consumed by the fight that they didn't notice the sand🤷 resonates with everyone either way.
    I hope your hiatus was fruitful & regenerative, friend.
    👋

  • @VictorFursov
    @VictorFursov Рік тому

    Thank you for interesting presentation.

  • @evry1sfriend619
    @evry1sfriend619 2 роки тому +2

    Please don’t be away too long!!!!

  • @dMb1790
    @dMb1790 2 роки тому +1

    What?! I just discovered your channel and you’re going on hiatus? Ugh, I thought I’d only have this problem on Royal Road. Your videos are the perfect mix of interesting and hilarious, but I can only watch what’s already there so many times, so please come back soon!

  • @lucasdeoliveirapontes2789
    @lucasdeoliveirapontes2789 2 роки тому +2

    Love the long video!

  • @stormcat3648
    @stormcat3648 2 роки тому +1

    10/10 video, love it

  • @tompatompsson
    @tompatompsson Місяць тому

    7:42 that made me laugh, the aggressive tone 👌

  • @user-il9ze9py8c
    @user-il9ze9py8c Рік тому

    Man, your videos are fantastic. The info is good, and the writing is excellent, along with great delivery. Keep it up!