I’ve watched this a few times and it never gets old . You built me a drag special M22 for my pro street and it’s still running strong and I wish you would build me another one for a spare . Mike Mayfield California.
It's nice to see a pro work. Ill never work on a transmission like that but i learn something on how to work every time I watch a video on this channel. Being a farmer I can apply the workmanship from these videos to improve my mechanical repair skills. thank you
Paul your videos are awesome! I love the detailed explanations you give. I wish these Muncie videos were around 16 years ago. I rebuilt my M21 due to a broken 3ed gear synchro. All I had for guidance was a shitty parts breakdown picture I found on the internet. Somehow I was able to do it and came out with a working trans that I still have today!
I have never owned a car, nor can I drive but after watching these videos I now know how to strip and rebuild a transmission and gear shift. Notice his artistic hands, Mr Cangialosi your a beautiful New Yorker ❤️🔥
Thanks for all the video's Paul, you've done a great job explaining the Muncie 4 Speed and has given me an overall understanding of how they work and how to identify the differences. I have a M21 and just picked up a M22Z to match my 3.08 rear end. Keep the videos coming!
Hello Paul, I have a 62 T10 that I put together. Saw this great video. Going to remove the trans and take it apart and try to rebuild it in reference to your instructions. I also have your book.
Excellent video Paul! I am currently running an M21 and am experiencing a growl noise in 1st, 2nd and 3rd. probably a bearing and bushing noise. Thanks for the video. ;-)
With the date codes on molds like that they put a 'DOT" in the mold itself and the dots are actually raised above surface of the casting (or molded part)
@@GearBoxVideo Yeah I think your right. I worked on injection molding machines. The molds they use they dink the mold with a punch and the molded part the dimple is proud of part surface. I guess its hard to tell from video which direction the date codes are. I beieve we are both stating the same thing. I really enjoy your videos man. I hope to one day have half the knowledge of fuck anything that you have of gears.
Great videos on the Muncie trans! Too bad it seems like all of the gearsets and rebuild kits are no longer available. There's always ebay and amazon, but who knows about the quality of those kits?
Interesting bits of information that might be helpful--- I was looking through my old Chevrolet Service News issues and the Sept-Oct 1967 publication states that the Muncie's "slinger on the clutch gear bearing is to prevent chips from entering the bearing and causing a subsequent failure." Ostensibly- more of a bearing debris shield, though they also refer to it as an " oil slinger." They also state that the use of the slinger "requires slight changes in the clutch gear" ie: machined down to provide additional dimension to put it in. They state the "gear and slinger will service past models" and "the slinger must not be removed when (this new setup is) used with past models" Bottom line-you need to assure some clearance for the input welding to the output shaft -as well as having too much clearance spacing. Same service bulletin also states the new 1968 3 and 4 speed transmissions models use the plastic speedometer drive gear with the clip.
Slingers were used from 65 and up. No changes were ever required to compensate for the .030" movement in. No gears were ever machined. I only recommend you NOT add one to a used gearset that never had one since the maindrive section could make gear noise. There was never a clearance issue with the inside of the input welding up against the output unless some idiot decided to add additional shims or triple stack slingers. I have seen welding issues when people do that. The slinger acts as a shield but does help oil flow dumping out of the front during hard braking. If GM was really concerned about metal chips getting into the bearing they would have used a shielded rear bearing which was more prone to getting chips in it from people grinding reverse. So you have to understand that some of these service bulletins have merit and some are useless. I have a few binders worth of service bulletins. The new transmissions I build now use sealed bearings.
Hi Paul, great video again and currently soaking my Hurst shifter on a M21 Muncie thats going into a 64 Chevy C10 in paint thinner now and following your vid. Also I have a 1964/65 Saginaw steel case. I remember you saying you were going to do a rebuild video on one but I have not seen it. If I send you my Saginaw and the rebuild kit can you do a video for others to view? Thanks Paul for you sharing of information to help us DIY's
Great Video......Could the rear bushing be bad and not leak oil from rear seal? I have a 65 vette L78 motor...M22.all stock ...Trans seams to vibrate.on decelerate..Feel it in shifter bad on decelerate from a 5000 RPM pull ....If driven easy, no vibration..Hate to pull trans on C2 vette....hoping rear bushing.....Thank you for your time...
Man I have to say you sir are a Genius. Well maybe just to me. I ready enjoy your videos. I know you said you are only doing race Applications but I will be ordering your book do you think I could rebuild my own transmission with only garage tools?
The only important basic tools are good retaining ring pliers and sometimes you will need a press. If you plan on doing more work on your car perhaps a cheap press is worth having anyway
Great videos Paul,I really enjoy them.I bought your book and think it is very good but had a question on the sequence of disassembly.You had removed the reverse Idler from the case before you had removed the gear assembly,just made me do a double take.Other than that great book and great videos!
Your Video totally skipped over the installation of the front bearing retainer. I rebuilt a 1969 worn out M-21 into a M-22 and once I bolted up the FBR to the case it binds up the shaft. Is there a recommend end play spec? Is there a shim kit that I'm missing or what?
Great video Paul. I've got your book and rebuild kit, so getting ready to start my first time M21 rebuild. Have a simple question. How do you tell which gear and slider is which? I'm guessing the diameter of the ring?
I'm rebuilding my M20 out 68 chevelle. I've done a few but when i pull out the cluster gear i only had 4 spacers. When i went to install the cluster gear i used all 6 spacers. I can't get the cluster in the case. have you seen this? It goes in fine with just the 4 spacers. I'm using all original gears, just a basic rebuild because noisy bearing. Thanks Sam
Because I don't have one to build. People expect me to source transmissions or buy them and then buy parts for free videos. If one does come into my shop I will do a video providing the customer has some time to leave it with me
I removed the yoke and it was really rough..I would like to remove bushing...what removal tool to remove yoke bushing. with out removing trans.from car. Thank you for your time.
65 corvette big blocks are not that easy. did this on my SS Chevelle 20 years ago..15 minute job to remove...install 5 minute job with right tool..Thank you for your help. Have a great day...
I have learned a lot from your videos as of late. I recently pick up a m20 for my nova and its been great. I do like to make it stronger eventually, I been reading a lot and came across this video a while back and some info online. I heard I can do a M22w gear set in my m20, but only issues i have would be my counter pin its a 7/8 not 1 inch. So my question is could i have that bore out to fit the 1 inch pin or do I get a main case to fit that?.
Can you help me identify? I have a Muncie with 2 grooves in the main shaft, a case number of 3885010; a date stamp of P01011; a tail case of 3846429. There are six large font digits 163065 that don't match the vin of my 70 TA across the top of the case front. I'm stumped on the P01011 number and the large numbers?
Question: Normally I've seen you swap input shafts to convert to a sealed system. You didn't this time. Why is that? Customer wanted to keep the old M21 input shaft for historic/financial reasons?
+Larry Bolan Nope. Its because we are using a stock case. The sealed inputs use the wider bearing. If I am using an aftermarket Supercase that utilizes the wider bearing than I can convert to a full sealed system. Factory cases have no provisions for the wider bearing as well as have enough material on the extension housing to thread it for a vent which is required when going fully sealed. You may find people selling adapter kits to convert to a wider sealed bearing to use with a stock case. I do not recommend these or see any advantage.
I took off the input shaft bearing retainer on my M-20 Muncie there were many small pieces of ball bearing, bummer, What would have caused 3 ball bearings to fall out of my main drive gear bearing ? it is a used early 70's M20 I just purchased to go in a project.
Can this bearing be replaced easily from the front without going internally or does it have to be pressed off by someone who know what their doing? Learning much good info from your videos also a big fan of Jeff Beck!
I am sure there are lots of supposed re-builders out there or "Parts Replacers" What Paul Does is Blue Print a Transmission .. He also seems to know about weak points and upgrades that have been made over the years.. It appears he knows the aftermarket sources for improved parts.. The Hot Rod Magazines always mention M-22 Rock Crushers.. I have no idea that the difference is between M-20 21 or 22 . I am going to assume they are heavier and stronger than a Borg Warner T-10 My Impression is the M-22 maybe went more with Big Block Engines.. When I ordered my Z-28 Camaro in 1979 I chose the close ration Trans thinking of road racing .. Wrong need up doing more drag racing where the lower 1st gear would have been better with a Wide ration trans,. I think my Doug Nash 5 speed has a 3.23 first gear or 3,27 which was a huge improvement off the line . My guess is the Borg warner T-10 is lighter and cheaper.. I am sure Paul explains this in a book or in a Video.. Also I noticed that Paul works bare handed. I never saw a mechanic on youtube before that didn't wear gloves.. ja ja ja I am 57 never wore gloves either except of course in the parts washer ect or handing sharp gears surfaces ect.. and have not yet died from cancer.. @GearBoxVideo
Yes I noticed that you wear gloves some times.. I have a barrel of diesel .. A mineral spirits dunk tank . Then a parts washer with mineral spirits.. I like to use a pressure washer to clean big parts.. Mostly big trucks .. So my parts are pretty clean but the time I get them in the Mineral Spirits parts washer.. My life time experience with car transmissions .. Stock Turbo 350 does not hold up .. Power Glides are indestructible . 700R4 if you pull a trailer in overdrive you are doomed.. My '79 Z-28 Camaro I should have ordered wide Ratio T-10 not close ration .. My bad.. the turbo 350 would have been $77 extra .. Stock Dough Nash 5 speed shifts slower than Molasses in January at high RPM's They do make them in Overdrive now but Tremac looks better to me .. and I learned that GearBoxVideo upgrades the Dough Nash to shift better by blueprinting and better . synchros.. It looks to me like there are enough Old Classic Muscle Cars and race cars out there using gear boxes to keep Paul Cangialosi until he is an old Man .. My Question is will these 7-8 or 10 Speed Autos outperform and hold up in Z-28 Camaros and Vettes.. The Z-28 Camaro with Paddle shift and Magnetic ride suspension is putting very Expensive European cars to shame on the Nuremberg ring.. My guess is they are very expensive.. @GearBoxVideo Also it looks like Borg Warner T-10 replaced Muncie M-20-21-22 .. is the Borg Warner as strong ?
My dad purchased a 1985 fiero dont ask me why. It has a m17 trans, he is complaining of the clutch arm engaging / disengaging arm is stuck. How is this fixed does anyone know what he is refering to ? thanks
The Fiero had eithe a Muncie FWD 4 speed mounted in the back as well as a Getrag 5speed. I think the M17 was a 4 speed. The clutch Fork was cable actuated from what I recall. So the cable may have broken or is frozen.
Paul, great stuff :>) I have had 4 or five Muncie 4 speeds apart over the years and thought I knew a little.....until I watched all your videos. I sure picked up some VG info on inspection. I like the way you install the complete gear shaft with the input shaft (minus front bearing) in place. When doing this does it help to have the 1-2 and 3-4 sliders in any particular position ?Thanks again.Mike Angelo
I have 4 Ford Thunderbird SCs. 2 are manual. They are very specific transmissions that are partially shared with the F150. Nobody has a video of a proper M5r2 build. Can you or an affiliate do a build on one?
I put a new m22 gear set in my muncie all 4 gears shift fine but when you put it in reverse its locked up I have to put a rag on the input shaft and a pipe wrench to brake it loose why is that ?
How about actually contacting the person for support you purchased the gears from? Inferior parts, poor assembly, rings that fit to high on the cone, or a gear cone that is too high can cause this. I actually check everything I sell and ship, others never even open up the boxes and reship. Just because the gears are"italian" doesn't mean they are not subject to defects. I have quite a few defective Italian gears.
Currently I am not accepting these types of jobs. I do sell gearset and parts for people who wish to do it themselves. I am booked solid into the new year
Please email me at support@5speeds.com with your current transmission's casting #s and specs such as splines on both shafts. Enclose your name address and phone and I will get a quote for you.
GearBoxVideo how much would you charge me to rebuilt it, it ran good when I pulled it out but I leaks alot also Im thinking of connecting it to a chevy engine and I was wondering if it is compatable and what you would recommend?
Excellent Video , We can always learn from others .. I have to say I've been doing Muncie's going back into the 1960's .. I still do a few for the local guys .. Quick story > I was flat towing my 70 SS LS6 M22 back from the track when the trans went into gear ( so I thought ) After teardown , first gears had welded onto the main shaft . After 40+ years I replaced first gear & mainshaft /rebuild kit and sold it ..
Happens often when flat towing. The mainshaft is spinning within the gear but the transmission oil level isn't really moving, so the first gear welds because it has the largest surface speed of any gear. The other common issue is burnt out pilot rollers because as the oil travels to the rear when moving forward the pilot is completely out of the oil reservoir.
When parts sources get stabilized and I don't know when that will be. Not interested in taking in work I can't get out and would be cluttering up the shop for months.
I never lower prices for anyone. I get that question every week. I think the worst thing you can do to someone is offer to sell at your first price and then lower it. First it implies that your work is overvalued and second tells the customer you will willing to rip them off for the extra 25 dollars!
@@GearBoxVideo That was what a customer asked me a while back. When we did carry outs.I quit selling them for obvious reasons. Would rather see them go else where. Not worth the trouble.
the toughest box that ever came out of indiana. that bad boy plays a tune all her own. thanx fellas,,
I’ve watched this a few times and it never gets old . You built me a drag special M22 for my pro street and it’s still running strong and I wish you would build me another one for a spare . Mike Mayfield California.
It's nice to see a pro work. Ill never work on a transmission like that but i learn something on how to work every time I watch a video on this channel. Being a farmer I can apply the workmanship from these videos to improve my mechanical repair skills. thank you
Great to hear. Thanks
Paul your videos are awesome! I love the detailed explanations you give. I wish these Muncie videos were around 16 years ago. I rebuilt my M21 due to a broken 3ed gear synchro. All I had for guidance was a shitty parts breakdown picture I found on the internet. Somehow I was able to do it and came out with a working trans that I still have today!
Thanks. My video came out on VHS in 2003!
I have never owned a car, nor can I drive but after watching these videos I now know how to strip and rebuild a transmission and gear shift. Notice his artistic hands, Mr Cangialosi your a beautiful New Yorker ❤️🔥
Thank you for the great comment
Paul, Great video..... bought back many memories, from the 70's n 80's, of how we used to rebuild them... stay safe < from Australia !!!
Thanks 👍
Awesome Paul! I really enjoy watching you work your magic!
paul ur sir are the best teacher i hav ever had the pleasure to follow i just finished building my st10 !! incredible videos thx a million
Your content is gold I tell you. I have learnt a lot in your channel. Thanks a lot
I appreciate that!
Hell of a good teacher. Keep up the good work.
ReclusiveMountainMan Thanks
@@GearBoxVideo how much power is the np440 good for??
Will it hold behind my 6.0 500whp ls?
Thanks for all the video's Paul, you've done a great job explaining the Muncie 4 Speed and has given me an overall understanding of how they work and how to identify the differences. I have a M21 and just picked up a M22Z to match my 3.08 rear end. Keep the videos coming!
Glad to help
I love the way you burnish the case and cover. A nice look, a touch of ‘steampunk’. 👍
Thank you for all of your videos. Better than anything on tv. I look forward to seeing new postings.
+John Aiello Thanks
Hello Paul,
I have a 62 T10 that I put together. Saw this great video. Going to remove the trans and take it apart and try to rebuild it in reference to your instructions. I also have your book.
Great. Thanks for your support. Email me if you run into any problems or have questions.
Great video . I like them all. Enjoyed your build with Erick the car guy too. Very informative stuff.
fantastic.... can't tell you how much i learned from this. Thanks Paul!
Excellent video Paul! I am currently running an M21 and am experiencing a growl noise in 1st, 2nd and 3rd. probably a bearing and bushing noise. Thanks for the video. ;-)
Usually bearings, they quiet down in 4th when there is no load since you are direct.
With the date codes on molds like that they put a 'DOT" in the mold itself and the dots are actually raised above surface of the casting (or molded part)
The casting is the molded part. The "mold" or "pattern" would have the negative of that.
@@GearBoxVideo Yeah I think your right. I worked on injection molding machines. The molds they use they dink the mold with a punch and the molded part the dimple is proud of part surface. I guess its hard to tell from video which direction the date codes are. I beieve we are both stating the same thing. I really enjoy your videos man. I hope to one day have half the knowledge of fuck anything that you have of gears.
Paul do a video on Saginaw 3 spd , you are head and shoulders better than anyone , have really enjoyed what Ive seen so far... Thankyou
I have one in the works
Just something that I noticed when I was taking one apart th other day.Nonetheless great book and great videos,thanks for replying
Great videos on the Muncie trans! Too bad it seems like all of the gearsets and rebuild kits are no longer available. There's always ebay and amazon, but who knows about the quality of those kits?
Read the description for links. We sell quality kits and gears.. Im out of stock because I will not be back in the shop until Feb 5th
@@GearBoxVideo That's great news, thanks!
Interesting bits of information that might be helpful--- I was looking through my old Chevrolet Service News issues and the Sept-Oct 1967 publication states that the Muncie's "slinger on the clutch gear bearing is to prevent chips from entering the bearing and causing a subsequent failure." Ostensibly- more of a bearing debris shield, though they also refer to it as an " oil slinger." They also state that the use of the slinger "requires slight changes in the clutch gear" ie: machined down to provide additional dimension to put it in. They state the "gear and slinger will service past models" and "the slinger must not be removed when (this new setup is) used with past models" Bottom line-you need to assure some clearance for the input welding to the output shaft -as well as having too much clearance spacing. Same service bulletin also states the new 1968 3 and 4 speed transmissions models use the plastic speedometer drive gear with the clip.
Slingers were used from 65 and up. No changes were ever required to compensate for the .030" movement in. No gears were ever machined. I only recommend you NOT add one to a used gearset that never had one since the maindrive section could make gear noise. There was never a clearance issue with the inside of the input welding up against the output unless some idiot decided to add additional shims or triple stack slingers. I have seen welding issues when people do that. The slinger acts as a shield but does help oil flow dumping out of the front during hard braking. If GM was really concerned about metal chips getting into the bearing they would have used a shielded rear bearing which was more prone to getting chips in it from people grinding reverse. So you have to understand that some of these service bulletins have merit and some are useless. I have a few binders worth of service bulletins. The new transmissions I build now use sealed bearings.
Thanks for your clearing up this confusing issue for me. Some of these things are hard to figure what is going on!
@@GearBoxVideo
Paul, yeah you make great videos . Thats really going the extra mile......
Hi Paul, great video again and currently soaking my Hurst shifter on a M21 Muncie thats going into a 64 Chevy C10 in paint thinner now and following your vid. Also I have a 1964/65 Saginaw steel case. I remember you saying you were going to do a rebuild video on one but I have not seen it. If I send you my Saginaw and the rebuild kit can you do a video for others to view? Thanks Paul for you sharing of information to help us DIY's
Currently I am backed up with work first. It takes time to do a video and I already have a saganaw, just need to get to it.
Ok, thanks Paul and great job you rock brother!! Will give you a call tomorrow to order the metal rod bushings and clamps.
Have you any 4 speed VW bus transmission videos? Great videos dude. Thanks
Great Video......Could the rear bushing be bad and not leak oil from rear seal? I have a 65 vette L78 motor...M22.all stock ...Trans seams to vibrate.on decelerate..Feel it in shifter bad on decelerate from a 5000 RPM pull ....If driven easy, no vibration..Hate to pull trans on C2 vette....hoping rear bushing.....Thank you for your time...
I doubt it has anything to do with the transmission. You may want to check your pinion as well as driveshaft and mounts.
Amazing tutorial, learned a a lot. Watched them all.
Awesome job again Paul.
Thanks!
Great job, Paul, you are the best! I have a Muncie P7S04. Can you tell if that is 20 or 21
Read the ID info at www.5speeds.com/muncie.htm
28:30 reminds me of everytime I've sent a Floyd spring flying across the room.
Great channel
Man I have to say you sir are a Genius. Well maybe just to me. I ready enjoy your videos. I know you said you are only doing race Applications but I will be ordering your book do you think I could rebuild my own transmission with only garage tools?
The only important basic tools are good retaining ring pliers and sometimes you will need a press. If you plan on doing more work on your car perhaps a cheap press is worth having anyway
Great videos Paul,I really enjoy them.I bought your book and think it is very good but had a question on the sequence of disassembly.You had removed the reverse Idler from the case before you had removed the gear assembly,just made me do a double take.Other than that great book and great videos!
+Sergio Deriu The rear idler has to be removed if you are going to remove the mid plate and gears. Why the double take?
yes I agree but in your book the step by step procedure you show the reverse gear out before the main gears and shaft ,not a huge deal
I think the publisher left out the pic of pulling the gear train out.
Your Video totally skipped over the installation of the front bearing retainer. I rebuilt a 1969 worn out M-21 into a M-22 and once I bolted up the FBR to the case it binds up the shaft. Is there a recommend end play spec? Is there a shim kit that I'm missing or what?
Some retainers are defective and bind. Watch my other videos on rebuilding Muncies for that info.
Great video Paul. I've got your book and rebuild kit, so getting ready to start my first time M21 rebuild. Have a simple question. How do you tell which gear and slider is which? I'm guessing the diameter of the ring?
Everything is in the book. Before you take it apart make notes
Excellent videos, just rebuilt my first muncie. Very professional, and well thought about and organized.
Nice video Paul, excellent. I have a question, check the minute 39:27 what purpose has the smaller hole besides the 6 mounting holes?
Dowel pin alignment hole
I'm rebuilding my M20 out 68 chevelle. I've done a few but when i pull out the cluster gear i only had 4 spacers. When i went to install the cluster gear i used all 6 spacers. I can't get the cluster in the case. have you seen this? It goes in fine with just the 4 spacers. I'm using all original gears, just a basic rebuild because noisy bearing.
Thanks Sam
The solid spacer tube uses only 4 spacers. The split spacer tubes uses 6. These details are mentioned in my book on Muncies.
How come you don't have any videos of rebuilding a Chrysler a833
Because I don't have one to build. People expect me to source transmissions or buy them and then buy parts for free videos. If one does come into my shop I will do a video providing the customer has some time to leave it with me
@@GearBoxVideo ok. Thanks for getting back to me much appreciated. Great videos I watch them all the time.
I removed the yoke and it was really rough..I would like to remove bushing...what removal tool to remove yoke bushing. with out removing trans.from car. Thank you for your time.
I know there are some pullers, but my experience with them is that most people botch the installation. Easier just to pull the trans and get it right.
65 corvette big blocks are not that easy. did this on my SS Chevelle 20 years ago..15 minute job to remove...install 5 minute job with right tool..Thank you for your help. Have a great day...
I have 2 t10 transmissions can I put m22 rockcrusher gear sets into it? Thanks, I enjoy your videos
No you cannot. , Completely different
I have learned a lot from your videos as of late. I recently pick up a m20 for my nova and its been great. I do like to make it stronger eventually, I been reading a lot and came across this video a while back and some info online. I heard I can do a M22w gear set in my m20, but only issues i have would be my counter pin its a 7/8 not 1 inch. So my question is could i have that bore out to fit the 1 inch pin or do I get a main case to fit that?.
Best just to find a good later 1 inch case
@@GearBoxVideo awesome yeah I been trying to find the autogear super case. I believe you sale it as well but back ordered, I believe.
They currently discontinued it. We are making our own case now. In the works
@@GearBoxVideo awesome I'll keep my eye out for when it comes out. Thank you for replying back too. Also enjoy the videos and learned a lot so far.
Awesome details sir hua
Can you help me identify? I have a Muncie with 2 grooves in the main shaft, a case number of 3885010; a date stamp of P01011; a tail case of 3846429. There are six large font digits 163065 that don't match the vin of my 70 TA across the top of the case front. I'm stumped on the P01011 number and the large numbers?
Read www.5speeds.com/muncie.htm
Question: Normally I've seen you swap input shafts to convert to a sealed system. You didn't this time. Why is that? Customer wanted to keep the old M21 input shaft for historic/financial reasons?
+Larry Bolan Nope. Its because we are using a stock case. The sealed inputs use the wider bearing. If I am using an aftermarket Supercase that utilizes the wider bearing than I can convert to a full sealed system. Factory cases have no provisions for the wider bearing as well as have enough material on the extension housing to thread it for a vent which is required when going fully sealed. You may find people selling adapter kits to convert to a wider sealed bearing to use with a stock case. I do not recommend these or see any advantage.
+GearBoxVideo Ah. Didn't know that there was a size difference or that the plug wasn't a stock item. Noted.
Could you give me info on a Muncie 3851325 p0224 k160053? Thank you very much
See www.5speeds.com/muncie.htm
I took off the input shaft bearing retainer on my M-20 Muncie there were many small pieces of ball bearing, bummer, What would have caused 3 ball bearings to fall out of my main drive gear bearing ? it is a used early 70's M20 I just purchased to go in a project.
Bearing failure. Its over 40 years old. If it's a new bearing, poor alignment or a worn pilot bushing.
Can this bearing be replaced easily from the front without going internally or does it have to be pressed off by someone who know what their doing? Learning much good info from your videos also a big fan of Jeff Beck!
Most will pry right out, but new ones need to be gently tapped into place. I sell them on my website www.5speeds.com
If a shift fork gets a polish look to it. Does that mean its worn out. Or can that be acceptable?
No, it's fine
Nice video
I am sure there are lots of supposed re-builders out there or "Parts Replacers" What Paul Does is Blue Print a Transmission .. He also seems to know about weak points and upgrades that have been made over the years.. It appears he knows the aftermarket sources for improved parts..
The Hot Rod Magazines always mention M-22 Rock Crushers.. I have no idea that the difference is between M-20 21 or 22 . I am going to assume they are heavier and stronger than a Borg Warner T-10 My Impression is the M-22 maybe went more with Big Block Engines..
When I ordered my Z-28 Camaro in 1979 I chose the close ration Trans thinking of road racing .. Wrong need up doing more drag racing where the lower 1st gear would have been better with a Wide ration trans,. I think my Doug Nash 5 speed has a 3.23 first gear or 3,27 which was a huge improvement off the line . My guess is the Borg warner T-10 is lighter and cheaper.. I am sure Paul explains this in a book or in a Video..
Also I noticed that Paul works bare handed. I never saw a mechanic on youtube before that didn't wear gloves.. ja ja ja I am 57 never wore gloves either except of course in the parts washer ect or handing sharp gears surfaces ect.. and have not yet died from cancer.. @GearBoxVideo
I do use gloves when working with solvents and extreme dirty conditions.
Yes I noticed that you wear gloves some times.. I have a barrel of diesel .. A mineral spirits dunk tank . Then a parts washer with mineral spirits.. I like to use a pressure washer to clean big parts.. Mostly big trucks .. So my parts are pretty clean but the time I get them in the Mineral Spirits parts washer..
My life time experience with car transmissions .. Stock Turbo 350 does not hold up .. Power Glides are indestructible . 700R4 if you pull a trailer in overdrive you are doomed.. My '79 Z-28 Camaro I should have ordered wide Ratio T-10 not close ration .. My bad.. the turbo 350 would have been $77 extra ..
Stock Dough Nash 5 speed shifts slower than Molasses in January at high RPM's They do make them in Overdrive now but Tremac looks better to me ..
and I learned that GearBoxVideo upgrades the Dough Nash to shift better by blueprinting and better .
synchros..
It looks to me like there are enough Old Classic Muscle Cars and race cars out there using gear boxes to keep Paul Cangialosi until he is an old Man ..
My Question is will these 7-8 or 10 Speed Autos outperform and hold up in Z-28 Camaros and Vettes.. The Z-28 Camaro with Paddle shift and Magnetic ride suspension is putting very Expensive European cars to shame on the Nuremberg ring.. My guess is they are very expensive..
@GearBoxVideo Also it looks like Borg Warner T-10 replaced Muncie M-20-21-22 .. is the Borg Warner as strong ?
My dad purchased a 1985 fiero dont ask me why. It has a m17 trans, he is complaining of the clutch arm engaging / disengaging arm is stuck. How is this fixed does anyone know what he is refering to ? thanks
The Fiero had eithe a Muncie FWD 4 speed mounted in the back as well as a Getrag 5speed. I think the M17 was a 4 speed. The clutch Fork was cable actuated from what I recall. So the cable may have broken or is frozen.
what shift was it built on if it was midnight's my old man may have put some parts in it. lol
They never had shift codes on Muncies. Does he have any pictures of the plant in the day?
And hard is it for me to send my transmission to you and let you rebuild it I'm a disabled vet live in Texas
awesome stuff man.
My 4 speed is making a noise when I shift in third I push clutch in and it stops and it’s touching the pilot bearing
And what kind of noise? These questions are really hard to answer without being there
How much power thouse trasmissions can haddle?
Depends on the application clutch and axle ratio. Average is 650 HP
What kind/brand of gaskets are you using?
We make our own
GearBoxVideo Do you sell them, we’re can I get a set like the ones in your video?
I found it thanks. Love your UA-cam channel.
Paul, great stuff :>) I have had 4 or five Muncie 4 speeds apart over the years and thought I knew a little.....until I watched all your videos. I sure picked up some VG info on inspection. I like the way you install the complete gear shaft with the input shaft (minus front bearing) in place. When doing this does it help to have the 1-2 and 3-4 sliders in any particular position ?Thanks again.Mike Angelo
Slightly extend the 3-4 slider just before the half way point.
Legend🤠💪🏽
What do you think of the tremec trans.
Which one? The TKO, T5, or T56?
GearBoxVideo mainly the T5 I I've heard nothing but good things about him but I wanted your opinion you seem like a real Pro guess
Do you sell trans reverse switches for the muncies?
No, the one I got for this build I purchased on Ebay
How can I tell if I have a m22 trans
See www.5speeds.com/muncie.htm Take the time to read everything on all pages
I could. Have used. That a few months ago
I have 4 Ford Thunderbird SCs. 2 are manual. They are very specific transmissions that are partially shared with the F150. Nobody has a video of a proper M5r2 build. Can you or an affiliate do a build on one?
+lilmangofast If someone would supply me with a transmission and parts I would.
+GearBoxVideo One of the issues Im pushing through is getting parts. Unfortunatly finding any M5r2 RKE parts are rare.
Shame kids dont have shop teachers like this in person anymore
I put a new m22 gear set in my muncie all 4 gears shift fine but when you put it in reverse its locked up I have to put a rag on the input shaft and a pipe wrench to brake it loose why is that ?
Where did you get the gears from? When it's broken loose, is it fine then?
@@GearBoxVideo got them off eBay from a person they are the Italian. Gears and when I brake loose it locks up again
How about actually contacting the person for support you purchased the gears from? Inferior parts, poor assembly, rings that fit to high on the cone, or a gear cone that is too high can cause this. I actually check everything I sell and ship, others never even open up the boxes and reship. Just because the gears are"italian" doesn't mean they are not subject to defects. I have quite a few defective Italian gears.
@@GearBoxVideo ok thank you how much are your rebuilt kits
@@mexicanfrenchman6984 Please visit www.5speeds.com/cart
Not all shafts are created equal - Paul Cangialosi 😂 Thanks for the good videos though!
Should have said machined with the correct dimensions and level of detail.
Can you please rebuild my m22. Please. And I’ll even get your warden a Starbucks coffee card. Do a first responder a rake. 🤘🏼
Call me to discuss your issues aTE 561-743-5600
Hey any new videos coming up?
Yes, finishing the ST10 video and a TKO video. Been really busy building units so video edits have to wait.
I can't wait for that one I've had one since I was eighteen and I'm 54 now, bullet proof,.......within reason of course.
what do you charge to Convert M21 to M22???
Currently I am not accepting these types of jobs. I do sell gearset and parts for people who wish to do it themselves. I am booked solid into the new year
@@GearBoxVideo whats it cost for everything to switch over to M 22
Please email me at support@5speeds.com with your current transmission's casting #s and specs such as splines on both shafts. Enclose your name address and phone and I will get a quote for you.
have you ever built a 1951 Packard 3 speed
Johnny Pasillas Yes. Years ago. I still have parts and access to parts.
GearBoxVideo how much would you charge me to rebuilt it, it ran good when I pulled it out but I leaks alot also Im thinking of connecting it to a chevy engine and I was wondering if it is compatable and what you would recommend?
Johnny Pasillas does your unit have overdrive?
GearBoxVideo yes it does but I have no Idea If it works.
The OD parts are hard to come by. I don't do rebuilds, I sell parts for domestic manual transmissions, mainly new and vintage stuff.
How do I get in contact with you
How can I get upgrade parts from you
My website is www.5speeds.com.. all my info and store is there
Excellent Video , We can always learn from others .. I have to say I've been doing Muncie's going back into the 1960's .. I still do a few for the local guys .. Quick story > I was flat towing my 70 SS LS6 M22 back from the track when the trans went into gear ( so I thought ) After teardown , first gears had welded onto the main shaft . After 40+ years I replaced first gear & mainshaft /rebuild kit and sold it ..
Happens often when flat towing. The mainshaft is spinning within the gear but the transmission oil level isn't really moving, so the first gear welds because it has the largest surface speed of any gear. The other common issue is burnt out pilot rollers because as the oil travels to the rear when moving forward the pilot is completely out of the oil reservoir.
So I wasn't the only dumbass that didn't pull the driveshaft // I did get a car trailer after //
Paul almost sounded pissed when he seen the condition that transmission was in.
+Drunken Ira Hayes
Yo Drunken, you got that right, looked like they filled it with burnt motor oil from a 400,000 mile diesel engine, yeah?
do u sell cases could u let me know
New cases and I do have a few used ones kicking around.
Careful with those 4-flute taps... not as strong as a 2 or 3 flute design.
I've never broken a tap and am well aware of the difference in tap design. Thanks for your concern
hey you
Enjoying my work?
can you show how the shifter works?
Do you have a mail adress?
The about section on my profile has all my info. A link to a shifter video is here:
ua-cam.com/video/mc4n3O65FNc/v-deo.html
Will you rebuild my muncie
Not rebuilding at this time
@@GearBoxVideo when will you be rebuilding again ?
When parts sources get stabilized and I don't know when that will be. Not interested in taking in work I can't get out and would be cluttering up the shop for months.
@@GearBoxVideo ok I understand thank you God bless.
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AWWW COME ON MAN!!!! Cant ya do it any cheeper!!!!???
I never lower prices for anyone. I get that question every week. I think the worst thing you can do to someone is offer to sell at your first price and then lower it. First it implies that your work is overvalued and second tells the customer you will willing to rip them off for the extra 25 dollars!
@@GearBoxVideo That was what a customer asked me a while back. When we did carry outs.I quit selling them for obvious reasons. Would rather see them go else where. Not worth the trouble.
Exactly
Great video.
Struggled with your music choice. Too heavy.......