Incredible, Thank you very much! I'm leaving a small note for me (or anyone) to remember ---Chord inversions for 7th chords (and beyond)---- -Focus on the "skeleton" = (3rd - 7th - HighestNote) -Invert only the 3rd or the 7th choose between being on the lowest or highest -Whenever playing a II - V - I, the possibilities will only be either: II( with3rdAsLowest) - V(with7thAsLowest) - I(with3rdAsLowest) OR II( with7thAsLowest) - V(with3thAsLowest) - I(with7rdAsLowest)
Very good video! Could you consider doing a second video, maybe a short, with a melody, played with the "normal" chords, then both versions of the inversions? So we can hear the differences and similarities. Thanks!
Spectacular. I never noticed the "rub" from the leading tone in a maj7 chord can be contextualized as "13 against the flat 7" in a dominant. It should follow that I can also see the third against the 11 this way... I'll have to try and work it out.
Thanks, Assaf. This was an eye (& ear) opener. Wonder if this works when not using standard tin pan alley progressions: 251 etc? Maybe less so, without a bass.
Ok, this is really perspective shifting for me. When you asked which notes are the most important, I was thinking "Oh, that's obvious. The root at the 5th. The 3rd just fills out the voicing, and the 7th is just ear candy." Clearly I was missing something crucial. But I'm still somewhat lost. When you remove the D from Dmin9, the remaining notes form F A C E, which is F7. Should I be thinking about this chord like an F chord, if removing the root is allowed? Does this mean that 2-5-1 progression and 4-5-1 progression are roughly equivalent? Can you repeat the process again, removing the root of this new chord, getting a 6-5-1 progression? Are most chords that are only a 3rd apart potentially interchangeable by just removing a root or adding a new lower root?
1. FACE is Fmaj7, not F7. 2. And yes, removing the root is "allowed". That's why there are names for things in jazz such as "rootless voicings", or why a tritone substituion works (because the original and substituted chords share the 3rd and 7th). 3. If you start from Dm9 and get an Fmaj7 you can't keep on doing this. The original *function* of the chord remains the same and you shouldn't alter it. 4. 2-5-1 and 4-5-1 progressions are indeed "the same": they're subdominants going into dominants going into tonics. 5. A 6-5-1 is not the same as a 4-5-1 because the 6 plays the function of a tonic, not a subdominant. It's all about function. You can check out my online jazz piano course for beginners here on UA-cam, it will fill in a lot of gaps for you.
The third is critical because it establishes a Major or Minor sound. If you leave it out, you can "walk the line" between Major and Minor until you want to "take a stand". But if you're looking for a strong Major or Minor sound, you definitely want it included.
Ideally speaking, yes. Depends on your playing style in practice. Start with what you play most often (chords in LH and melody in RH, or "chord-melody" in RH).
so is it not an issue leaving all the roots out all the time? if i am trying to improv with my right and back up with my left, and have no bass player, i don't need to worry about having the bass note as root?
It's not an issue from a music theory perspective. There is certainly a different "color" to rootless and root-"full" chords and that's an artistic choice which is up to you.
@159awi I guess even in a solo, yes you can play the root but by emphazising the third and seventh you clearly define the function of the chord, that's why sometimes when jazz greats play solo just linear phrasing without any accompaniment you can still hear the harmony, because they are playing around with those guide tones
Incredible, Thank you very much!
I'm leaving a small note for me (or anyone) to remember
---Chord inversions for 7th chords (and beyond)----
-Focus on the "skeleton" = (3rd - 7th - HighestNote)
-Invert only the 3rd or the 7th choose between being on the lowest or highest
-Whenever playing a II - V - I, the possibilities will only be either:
II( with3rdAsLowest) - V(with7thAsLowest) - I(with3rdAsLowest) OR
II( with7thAsLowest) - V(with3thAsLowest) - I(with7rdAsLowest)
Fantastic thanks. Brilliant pedagogical style as always. Clear, logical, informative
A concept I have never been intoduced to this clearly before. Thank you!
Very good video! Could you consider doing a second video, maybe a short, with a melody, played with the "normal" chords, then both versions of the inversions? So we can hear the differences and similarities. Thanks!
I've been trying to figure out how to do inversions on major 7 chords. Thanks so much for this!
Always good to optimize and simplify things that are otherwise complex!
Spectacular. I never noticed the "rub" from the leading tone in a maj7 chord can be contextualized as "13 against the flat 7" in a dominant.
It should follow that I can also see the third against the 11 this way... I'll have to try and work it out.
Simple & straightforward, love your videos Asaf ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
7th or 3rd at bottom + extensions. I keep that in mind. Thank you !
Very informative thanks a lot much appreciated as always...
Super cool! And well taught
Thus is so awesome sounds so cool❤❤
Thankyou sir was eagerly waiting for your new videos❤...
Brilliant!
This is a great video. Thanks!
Always the Best.
My brain keeps adding a C6 after the 2-5-1 progression, turning it into the opening chords of Ryuichi Sakamoto's Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence...
Thanks, Assaf. This was an eye (& ear) opener. Wonder if this works when not using standard tin pan alley progressions: 251 etc? Maybe less so, without a bass.
Take a look at Oscar Peterson and Bill Evans transcriptions. I haven't done statistics on this but it's VERY common.
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Well done. It helps me to play Jazz a lot easier
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Ok, this is really perspective shifting for me. When you asked which notes are the most important, I was thinking "Oh, that's obvious. The root at the 5th. The 3rd just fills out the voicing, and the 7th is just ear candy." Clearly I was missing something crucial.
But I'm still somewhat lost. When you remove the D from Dmin9, the remaining notes form F A C E, which is F7. Should I be thinking about this chord like an F chord, if removing the root is allowed? Does this mean that 2-5-1 progression and 4-5-1 progression are roughly equivalent? Can you repeat the process again, removing the root of this new chord, getting a 6-5-1 progression? Are most chords that are only a 3rd apart potentially interchangeable by just removing a root or adding a new lower root?
not necessarily, yes, yes yes
1. FACE is Fmaj7, not F7.
2. And yes, removing the root is "allowed". That's why there are names for things in jazz such as "rootless voicings", or why a tritone substituion works (because the original and substituted chords share the 3rd and 7th).
3. If you start from Dm9 and get an Fmaj7 you can't keep on doing this. The original *function* of the chord remains the same and you shouldn't alter it.
4. 2-5-1 and 4-5-1 progressions are indeed "the same": they're subdominants going into dominants going into tonics.
5. A 6-5-1 is not the same as a 4-5-1 because the 6 plays the function of a tonic, not a subdominant.
It's all about function. You can check out my online jazz piano course for beginners here on UA-cam, it will fill in a lot of gaps for you.
@@MangoldProject it's not the same but, playing the notes of A minor over D minor still sounds great imo
The third is critical because it establishes a Major or Minor sound. If you leave it out, you can "walk the line" between Major and Minor until you want to "take a stand". But if you're looking for a strong Major or Minor sound, you definitely want it included.
Should you know how to play those voicings with both L and R hands?
Ideally speaking, yes. Depends on your playing style in practice. Start with what you play most often (chords in LH and melody in RH, or "chord-melody" in RH).
so is it not an issue leaving all the roots out all the time? if i am trying to improv with my right and back up with my left, and have no bass player, i don't need to worry about having the bass note as root?
It's not an issue from a music theory perspective. There is certainly a different "color" to rootless and root-"full" chords and that's an artistic choice which is up to you.
We usually call this rootless ..
genius
The 3rd and 7th are more important than the root? That surprises me.
As a piano/guitar player yes, because the bass plays the root any way, so you don't really need to double it
@@georgebruh8325 what of your solo?
@159awi I guess even in a solo, yes you can play the root but by emphazising the third and seventh you clearly define the function of the chord, that's why sometimes when jazz greats play solo just linear phrasing without any accompaniment you can still hear the harmony, because they are playing around with those guide tones
@@georgebruh8325 thanks for the reply. I'll try that.
Just play! No talking!
People come here to learn, if you want playing without talking go watch a concert bruh
Breh
What a cheater'
Merci beaucoup