I am still unconvinced that Andrew exists in the game timeline but there's still interesting things to say about him. Symbolically, I think it's worth pointing out that both Andrew and OMC are represented with crocodile faces at times, but they have opposite reactions to the fate of Afton. The young boy wants to cause additional suffering, but the wise old man understands that suffering begets suffering and that to escape the cycle, one must choose rest.
@@blanktester Scott has stated some of the Frights stories are "directly connected" to the games. He literally confirmed some of the stories are within the games timeline. Those stories are the ones connected to the stitchwraith stingers. The real question is what convinces you he isn't in the games timeline? There doesn't seem to be any contradictions to Andrew not being in the games, why do think that?
@@aminethbt885 "Scott has stated some of the Frights stories are "directly connected" to the games. He literally confirmed some of the stories are within the games timeline." I agree that this is most likely true, but I do think the words "directly connected" are up to some interpretation. "Those stories are the ones connected to the stitchwraith stingers." This is pure speculation. The stingers are clearly connected to each other and the other stitchline stories but that doesn't imply that they are all in. They could equally be all out. "The real question is what convinces you he isn't in the games timeline?" I didn't say I was convinced he isn't in the games. I remain unconvinced that he IS in the game because I haven't seen evidence that he is in there. That means I'm neutral on the issue, not in the negative position. "There doesn't seem to be any contradictions to Andrew not being in the games, why do think that?" No, I don't think there is a contradiction with Andrew there or not. If he is in the games, that's fine, and if he isn't, that's also fine. I think the Stitchline stories are a little silly and not my favorites in the series, but the continuity of each story is still something I'm thinking about.
@@blanktester I hope one day we'll see the stitchwraith in a future mainline game so not only would clarify things, but would also be cool. I feel like the stitchwraith stingers are the closest FNaF has ever gotten with good story telling and horror imo. I understand your point. But I think it's very obvious. Sometimes you don't really need "evidence" to believe in something, all you need is just common sense. As we'll most likely never get any "evidence" of stitchlinegames. If it ever gets confirmed Andrew isn't in the games, however, it would be fine, but frustrating.
the thing that always confuses me when people say that "duh its obvious that golden freddy is the suit where the vengeful spirit posses, theres alot of golden freddy easter eggs" but then we see withered chica saying that she has seen the vengeful spirit in the vents (which you know, GOLDEN FREDDY DOESN'T ENTER IN THE DAMN VENTS) and this thing in the vents is vengeful spirit photo, and the photo is from a boy, and withered chica refers to the spirit as MALE SPIRIT
This is literally perfect. I didn't even realize that Chica in the High School years cutscene talked about going to his house and entering from the window. Good stuff dude
Great video! Unfortunately, I am a FNAF fan, and therfore hate that you have a different explanation for the lore than me. Aside from that, though, I loved it.
Idea: what if JRS is actually the mediocre melodies location and the reason orange guy can’t enter is because fazbear entertainment Bought them out and kicked due to his toxic behavior. This explains why Andrew uses the MM there his dad creations The reason why fazbear entertainment was able to buy them out is because they’re quite literally bootleg of the Freddy’s cast so they would probably be able to sue.
@Sethxiety technically, no, but I think its very obvious. he looks exactly like the image of the vengeful spirit from ucn, and has already been set up to be the vengeful spirit from the movies depiction of him. it felt very obvious to me, personally.
@AAA_NNN_DDD the face of the vengeful spirit is one of Scott’s sons. Just like Scott in HW the image is a stand in representation of an in universe character. Scott is a stand in for Steve the indie dev and his son’s face is a stand in for Andrew who has black hair, not blonde
i LOVED this video. you have completely changed my ideas on the vengeful spirit. i still have my own theories of course, but i think, thanks to your evidence, there's is no doubt that "the one should not have killed" is Andrew or at the very least, the game's stand in (if the stitchline theory isn't true)
Though the evidence works, and fits nicely in many ways, I just think too much of the lore comes out too late. I truly think the earliest evidence of a 7th victim, is in the Toy Chica cutscenes. I love the Toy Chica cutscenes, I’ve watched them far too many times, and came to a similar conclusion with Midnight Motorists and the 5th cutscene, but I still cannot explain that Foxy hook. But I really feel, other than that, there wasn’t anything. FNAF 6 lorekeeper ending emphasises these 6 graves, and the fact that MM is needed for this ending, is why I think the runaway is an MCI victim. Whilst Cassidy had a really cool secret name in the logbook, Andrew was just blatantly pointed out 2 years ago. I really feel that if Andrew was the Vengeful Spirit, why would the books spell out so exactly what UCN is, and what his name is; things that would be impossible for us to figure out, even in retrospect, at the time of UCN. Your argument is compelling but the more I listen to the TOYSNHK debate the more I hate FNAF lore 😭
My main problem with Andrew being the Vengeful Spirit is that I have yet to find a convincing alternative to Golden Freddy's appearances in the game that isn't him being the Vengeful Spirit. The OMC easter egg has him being fished out of the lake that is UCN, only for him to hop right back in, ignoring OMC's advice. The final scene of Golden Freddy is also eerie in nature, being shrouded in darkness, constant twitching, and dreadful music in the background. They just don't depict Golden Freddy as benevolent. I'll stand corrected if the Into The Pit game or new book confirms Stitchline, but for now, I'm just not convinced.
For me, Cassidy is in ucn as an important character. She wants to end Afton and convince Andrew to let him go. As he refuses Cassidy decides she can’t convince Andrew to let him go and end it. As such she talks with omc and he says to leave the demon to his demons, rest your own soul. To me says this isn’t your fight anymore, you don’t have to be the one to kill William. As such I believe contrary to belief she listens to him and why she dives into the lake. In fnaf world the lake leads to happiest day and as such I believe it does the same for Cassidy. She ends up with the other souls and allowing for the part to commence. I think the void cutscene is her leaving ucn. Golden Freddy twitching to me is because even though she listened to omc there is some hesitation to move on because of William and Andrew. I believe she is still here as the princess but that’s another discussion.
@@Sethxiety To be clear, I never said I thought you claimed Cassidy wasn't in UCN. The interpretation you're providing here is the one I've commonly heard amongst those who believe Andrew is the Vengeful Spirit. That's why I clarified that the scenes don't depict Golden Freddy as benevolent. Sure, FNaF World has the lake lead to Happiest Day, but it's not exactly clear as to what that means in regards to FNaF World. It could be Scott & his two kids at the time, to throw out a possibility. It's also possible that, if Cassidy is the Vengeful Spirit, she considers torturing Afton her own happiest day. Golden Freddy's twitching doesn't seem like hesitation. It's pretty aggressive, resembling Springtrap in the FNaF 3 trailer, like you mentioned in the video. Add onto that with all the other eerie aspects of the scene that I mentioned earlier.
@@UnoriginalJokester yes I am aware, just saying that to make my interpretation known. Happiest day is symbolic of the spirits experiencing happy memories allowing them to move on hence the name. So I don’t think ucn can be a happiest day tho I see where you are coming from. Also worth pointing out I think the lake represents spirits moving on into the after life. In frights when Charlie destroys Afton once and for all both him and her sink to the bottom of a lake. Obviously Afton doesn’t experience a happy memory but I think it represents them both moving on from our world.
@@Sethxiety It's been a while since I last read the books, so my memory is a bit foggy when it comes to those bits. But if they sink to the bottom of a literal lake, then it may not necessarily parallel what we see in the OMC scene. It might just be a dramatic defeat, similar to some Disney movies where the villain falls off a cliff or something. I think UCN's lake represents UCN itself, or at least its entrance. In FNaF World, when you fall through the lake, you get a really long scene of the bear just falling. In UCN, we get that in reverse order, where it starts with the bear falling only to end up in OMC's forest afterward. This would imply that the opposite is happening. Where in FNaF World you fall through the lake & out of OMC's forest, UCN has the bear being pulled out of the lake & into OMC's forest.
@@Sethxiety i dont think so, my idea for the final ucn cutscene is that if andrew still torturing afton, cassidy and the others can't have their happiest day, andrew is basically a anti-villan
It’s Andrew no doubt in my mind Going with the whole theory that UCN Fredbear is meant to be a representation of henry due to traumatizing him in 6. By beating 50/20 William gets over his fear of Henry, which is why golden Freddy disappears William is no longer scared of him so he fades away. (I don’t believe ucn descent, because I don’t believe it’s possible for Cassidy to attach to Afton) Also, OMC is just a different it’s just a non-ending or it’s an Undertale situation where you’re not supposed to play the game after that. By reopening UCN, you’re basically ignoring what he said.
Here's a much easier route to take. We don't know for sure if Cassidy is 100% tied to Golden Freddy, so slap Andrew's name onto him, and boom. Vengeful Spirit. Theory solved.
Cassidy is the Golden princess you know what else is gold Golden Freddy Cassidy princess. And the files the princess was going to be named cassidy but they just changed it to princess.
@@Sethxiety Implied, but not outright stated. If there's enough wiggle room for your interpretation, Andrew being TOYSHNK and not Golden Freddy, even when the game implies Golden Freddy is the one causing the events of the game to happen (ie; 50/20 mode ending), this should be fair game too.
@@mylam658 i think the cutscene is implying that cassidy didn't stop andrew from keeping afton alive, so she and the others cant have her happiest day, thats why she is in princess quest, she was not freed in the first place
Welp dam I used to believe toysnhk and the vengeful spirit was their own characters but now I change my mind about that I think they the same character now and also Nice video keep up the good work! And thank you for using some of or maybe not some of my evidence on why I didn't think toysnhk is cassidy to prove your theory on why you think andrew is the vengeful spirit and not cassidy I also think andrew is the vengeful spirit now but anyways uh yeah have a good day and I will see you on the flipside 😊
@zeldristhecactus1304 WHAT IS IT WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARGUING WITH ME OVER SOMETHING STUPID LIKE SERIOUSLY DO YOU NOT GO OUTSIDE ENOUGH AND TOUCH GRASS? OR WHAT 🗿AND ALSO WHO ARE YOU REFFERING TO WHEN YOU SAY BUT THEY LOOK THE SAME? 💀
You brought up good points so far. Altho, that would Imply that Andrew also created and tried to help CC and the Others in FNAF World (Which has Lore relevance)
Andrew isnt connected with any of the other kids. Cassidy tries to get him to let William go because Cassidy simply wants Afton dead. When he doesn't listen she listens to OMC.
@@SethxietyStill ignoring some FNAF World Conections. We you Put The Pieces in Place for "Him" to Find them. Which would Imply that TOYSNHK has something in FNAF World AND a Conection to CC Through his Memories. If TOYSNHK is The Puppet master Then He Must conect to at Least Cassidy and CC.
Okay, I think I just realized they both can be vengeful spirits. Remember how there are two souls in Golden Freddy but refers to themselves in singular pronouns ("It’s Me")? What if "The One You Shouldn’t Have Killed" is two people (Andrew and Cassidy)?
@@Sethxiety i think the puppet and pigpatch are the mixed ways of how afton killed andrew he lured him from his house, used a bag to beat him, and drag into the car, just to him wake up in dittophobia experiments
Wait a second, isn't this BlackFootFerret's old Shadow Springtrap theory from 2015 with the names swapped? That's also about a spirit from an unknown kill event attaching themselves to William and keeping him alive to torture him after 3. Heck some people think Andrew is Shadow Bonnie and Cassidy is Shadow Freddy was also part of that.
I’ve never watched one of their theories so if it’s similar at all that is purely coincidence. However Andrew is said to have latched onto William’s soul and kept him alive in UCN. Whether or not he latched onto him after William killed him or after or during 6 is unclear. But if he is the vengeful spirit in the games then the only way Andrew could start UCN is if he was attached to William during 6.
I really believe that Andrew is the vengeful spirit, but my friend doesn't, he says that the only reasons why Andrew can't be the vengeful spirit is that Andrew has black curly hair and has an alligator mask, and his face is UCN (vengeful spirit) does not have these things....but books are different from games so Andrew will look different in games
I think the books besides the novel trilogy are within the games continuity which is why I believe Andrew is the vengeful spirit. However I do have another argument you could use if you agree with it that is. The vengeful spirit's face in UCN is one of Scott's sons which was used as a stand-in for VS face. Think of it like Scott's cameo in Help Wanted. His picture was used as a stand-in for the indie dev Steve Snodgrass (from tales). Steve is not Scott nor does he look like him iirc.
@@Sethxiety also the fact that scott used the face of his son [[male]] confirms that the vengeful spirit is male and therefore he is not cassidy...but perhaps the vengeful spirit could be the Cryng Child because he was in golden freddy and then the face in UCN is similar to the design of the encyclopedia....but the cryng child was not killed by William....🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@3DOARDC Yeah it's not CC because William didn't kill him. Also I don't believe CC possesses Golden Freddy anymore. As he died in a hospital away from Fredbear so his soul could not be in there. But a part of him could be after his tears fell onto the animatronic.
And Andrew has little to do with the Golden Freddy, which is more the focus at UCN. Andrew wears an alligator mask, and the masks are probably supposed to refer to which animatronic the soul is attached to. Andrew wears an alligator mask in human-ghost form, which the face at UCN does not do. Although, I must also note that a UCN face doesn't fit anyone at all according to this rule And Andrew's voice in the books is radically different from the voice/whisper that we hear behind Happy Frog, Neddbear etc.
You know honestly this was a really convincing theory, also a side note why would Cassidy speak through the mediocre melodys when he could just speak through golden freddy
Well I don’t believe Cassidy is the vengeful spirit. I think it’s Andrew. As for why idk. I’ve heard they were the first voice castings for the game so convince I guess
Guys I’d say go check out dual process theory, they’re the most insane channel I’ve ever seen 1 theory and yet they made the entire timeline make sense 😭
Erm guys, why would Cassidy's name be such a big deal in the log book if she/he was just the last missing kid. Wouldn't narratively Cassidy's name be important if they are actually Important. Whats the point of hiding the name unless they serve a greater purpose. Whats the point of having 2 souls in golden freddy if both of them just chill in it together instead of being counter parts to eachother. And if Andrew is the Vengeful Spirit, then why is golden freddy such a focus. What makes Andrew's death so different? Also may i remind everyone that Scott said the books are canon but not canon in the same ways the games are. There are parallels. Also the Fazbear frights books kinda do what they want with Fazbear entertainment. In some stories, Fazbear Ent. is no longer functional, while other stories it seems they are very much a company that is still currently up and running. Also we shouldn't pick and choose whats canon in the books. If Andrew is the Vengeful Spirit then where does Fazgoo or Seabonnies fit in. How'd funtiem Freddy end up in a dump if he is canonically part of a rental agency and it cant be after Sister Location cause then he'd have to both Escape Molten Freddy, not be burned in Pizza Sim, AND get his old casing back on. And because of "The Man in room 1280" the books MUST happen after Pizza Sim and DURING/congruently with UCN. If thats the case then a lot of characters (like Funtime Freddy) make little sense even existing. Also dont forget Springtrap is both a videogame character AND an animatronic WHILE Afton is in the hospital. (Also baby springtrap is somewhere in the world...) I think the books give us details the games just never had or included. I think the books even enlighten us to stuff we still dont get from the game series. My point is that we shouldnt pick and choose what is canon to the games from the books, because what is the rule for what is canon if everything else ismt. If Andrew is canon then why isnt Jake. It makes more sense to use the book as PARALLELS to the games. If were unsure about golden freddy having 2 souls, the books show us a dynamic like that. Also i think the hook/7th kill in Chica's bag is meant to represent Mike. In a lot of ways, Afton took Mike's life way. In both sending him to SL and using him throughout his life.
Cassidy’s name would be important because she is part of the MCI. They are the Golden Freddy spirit and Golden Freddy has always been mysterious so of course her name is going to be solved in a puzzle. Plus the Golden Freddy spirit is important in their own right. They serve as the leader of the MCI and is able to put souls back together as seen in the novels and implied with her relationship with CC. I agree with the 2 spirits point, it's why I don't like goldenduo but it seems to be correct to some extent as suggested by the week before. However, I think it would either be as parts of his memories or GF in the games is where his consciousness lies. I believe in the theory ShatterVictim, the theory that CC’s soul is shattered amongst the MCI and other miscellaneous parts of the Freddy’s pizzeria. So I don't the GF spirits dynamic would be to serve as counterparts, as interesting as that would be, I think it's because CC has the strongest connection with GF and as such him and Cassidy can interact with each other help him be put back together. Like how Jake helps Andrew in Frights, because Andrew is scattered amongst various items similar to how CC would be scattered amongst the MCI and Jake helps being these objects together helping Andrew come together like Cassidy would do for CC. Golden Freddy is a focus of UCN because one of their goals would be to end Afton once and for all. Ironically the Bear of Vengence intermissions show us Afton’s and Golden Freddy’s dynamic. She tries to thrawt him but he humiliates her every time. So this is just that again. She wants to end him but she cant cause of Andrew and she's probably enjoying Aftons torment too but wants him dead. It's her essentially realising that she cant kill him and she doesn't have too, Aftons consequences will catch up to him eventually. She puts aside her revenge and goes into happiest day to help her friends move on as they all need to move on together for CC. UCN serves as the end of the MCI’s story which makes sense as its the last instalment in Scott’s games. Scott said the books are canon but different from the games about the novel trilogy, he never said that about the other books. In fact for Frights he said that some connect to the games and some don't. These stories unlike the novels, are intended to answer questions from the games so why would they not be within continuity? Especially as the events of the games happen in these books. It's also why Frights is weird with what some stories are. Some are not meant to be in the games and some are. Some even happen in different time periods. There are Freddy locations open in the Stitchwraith stories however they don't do well like at all. Which might be an early attempt at Fazbear reopening but failing, leading to HW. We dont pick and choose what's canon, it's the stories that connect with the overarching narrative of frights which falls in line with what Scott told us to do with these books, tales once again is different cause there is no reason for them not to be in game continuity. Seabonnies and Fazgoo don't fit cause they are not in the stitchwraith stories but that doesn't mean the concepts cant be apart of the games. Funtime Freddy in CTW is a different Funtime Freddy, he has no Bon Bon. Plus Circus Baby’s reopened in the stories that connect with the games so that could explain that. Plus we have a precedence for characters to be mass produced via AR. Why cant the same apply to Funtime Freddy? Springtrap can be a video game character whilst also existing. Fazbear made indie games and VR games to make fun of the stories of the past to rebrand and cover up the past. Also the story you are talking about is not apart of Stitchline so not in the games under that theory. The books can exist in the games and still give narrative parallel stories to better understand characters, dynamics and can even enhance the story. Parallels exist in all stories it comes with storytelling. Also Mike would not be the 7th victim in TCHSY cause he was not a direct victim of Afton’s which is what it is about. It's Afton luring his victims to their deaths, this does not happen with Mike. Thanks for watching and commenting :)
@@Sethxiety woah you countered everything lol. Awesome. I also realized later that VIP in the Tales books kinda suggets the tales books take place before security breach since it talks about certain things under construction which would explain why stuff like the tree in the Tales books are also mising in SB. So that kinda comfirms to me the Fazbear Frights is canon yo the games lol. I do think the books tell a great narrative but the one reasom im against that their canon is cause "the man in room 1280" is still alive, but i always assumed afton was killed by his springlocking and then went on to possess the suit, in a poetic ironic twist (since he stuffed all the kids in the suits). But this suggests he never died and idk it just is unsatisfying. Like UCN is more a bad dream rather than his own perosnal HELL, forced to be killed over and over by creatures of HIS making. But maybe he was never meant to be dead. Afterall he didnt stop moving as the spirnglock cutscene ended. 🤷🏻♂️ Fnaf lore is fun to discuss lol. Edit: i did not realize stitchline focused on specific stories so that changes my perspective a lot
@Levee-kx6ul yeah Afton nver died in Springtrap, his agony kept him alive which is something which happens in a few stories, people living on because of their agony. Also in fnaf 6 it's quite but if Afton is in his final position before he attacks you during the salvage sections, you can hear a heartbeat. Each animatronic has their own unique sound. I'm sure you can find it on youtube somewhere
@@Sethxiety that actuslly makes sense cause Mike is still alive after being scooped cause of the remnant injector. So like Father, like son i guess lol
William afton didn't kill michael afton and michael is a adult not a child like the vengeful spirit is you can hear the vengeful spirit voice through one of the mediocore melodie gang voice lines sounding like a child voice talking behind it then a adult's and also the vengeful spirit face is a child face and that is also the case based off the fact scott son's face is the image for the vengeful spirit face and in the fnaf movie we see a golden freddy soul that looks similar to the vengeful spirit face I am not saying they are the vengeful spirit but I am saying is it's not michael because he would need to be not related by william and a little boy and killed by william in order for him to be the vengeful spirit so that is why that is not the case and also there is a possibly michael survived fnaf 6 fire or died and not attach himself to william so he can torment william in ucn and also he would have had to attach himself to william if he died before the fnaf 6 fire happened but he did not and also michael does not seem that hateful to william to the point he wants to create william his own personal hell his haterd for william will most likely be to the point where he wants william dead and to rot in hell but not a hell created by himself but actual hell itself.
Amazing theory I enjoyed it the only thing that was off was Andrew MM where you said William was in a spring bonnie suit in the rain but if it was raining he would have been spring locked also I'm more convinced on Andrew being the one now good job i also thought the UCN heartbeat connection was genius
@@Sethxiety Al is a background character who appears in sprite form in several FNAF games. He was confirmed by Brightshadow (a FNAF concept artist and lorekeeper for steel wool) to possess a prototype Springlock endoskeleton. (Which appears in an ARG, FNAF world, and in the upcoming ITP game). He also owns most of the fazbear's locations after Henry quit.
@Candjstudios2024 I think you’ve been misinformed about this because there is no such thing as a character referred to as AI and I’ve never heard of some by the name of brightshadow at steel wool before. And there has never being a fnaf ARG.
@@Sethxiety one, no I haven't, two, yes there is, three, you wouldn't even know everyone who works a steel wool, an four, there was in 2023, and matpat brought it up on gtlive.
@@Sethxiety Oh yeah... But this Since The Book and also, i dont think The Sixth Kid is Andrew. In Frights Continuity, he Would bê The Fifth (That being Golden Freddy), The New Kid connections really makes me Believe that.
@@drquem4279 Why would the secret 6th victim not be the secret victim of Afton's that is mentioned in UCN? Also I think that kid in the new kid is another one of Kelsey's victims
@@Sethxiety from my understanding, Andrew is TOYHNK and Cassidy is still trying stop him because, she wants Afton fully dead. And she did left after the OMC minigame. Maybe, to Fnaf world or happiest day? But yeah that’s pretty much it. What do you think of it?
@@captainet2457 This is what I believe yeah. She left and joined happiest day allowing for everyone to move on. Tho I still think Cassidy was still here until HW2.
Okay, HERE we go, the part that i was waiting for "MM cant be about the Aftons because he is not Purple but Orange/Yellow" Boy, i wonder when William was represented as Yellow, oh yeah, in the PizzaSim intro and in FruitMaze, which conects the Two Colors into one giving us Clues about Yellow Guys identidy.
@@SethxietyWhy? He is Purple And represents a Figure Of Authority in Fazbear Entertainment. And Also Yellow still conects no Matter If this is Blue Or Pink. Its a Conection to William Also representing Also, Midnight Motorist has a Conection to The Breaker Room Layout, who is conected to The FNAF 4 Mini-Games. Also Also, The Runnaway kept Runnaway a Long time and Yellow Guy Cant Go to Where He is, so He is at Least in Jr's (Which is Fredbear's)
@doutorquem4279 i just dont. If it's an add for fnaf 6 then it would have to take place in 2023 and by then William is in springtrap. Also jrs being fredbear’s makes no sense of its the first establishment of pizza and food chains. Jr would imply it's either a sister location or a 2nd establishment of some kind to one of the various fazbear locations.
@@Sethxiety We see in Into The Pit that after a Stabilishment closes It Can taken another name Also, you Can say that William isnt The Motorost because He is Purple, but you Can say that Intro Guy isnt William because He is Springtrap? That's Kinda stupid
@doutorquem4279 how is that stupid? If the fnaf 6 opening is an advertisement which tbf might not one in universe then how could it be William? I mean it could be representative of him but I just think he's some dude and doesn't mean much. Call that bias if you want but that's just what I think
Cassidy is a girl with black hair in the novels and in the survival logbook it shows a girl with black hair receiving a cake very similar to the one for happiest day. On that exact page it mentions a happiest day. The logbook also gives us the name of the 5th MCI victim that being Cassidy.
Good video, but I don't think this is true. It just doesn't make sense for TOYSNHK to be some random mystery character that didn't exist when the game came out instead of a preexisting character that is nearly identical. And if you use pronouns as an argument, I could use the argument that Andrew is outright stated to have black hair.
is cassidy really as venegeful as you say she is to torment afton or have you been conditioned to think that due to a consensus accepted before the explanation came out (frights)
Cassidy was springlock Cassidy is Vengeful The Golden princess is Cassidy golden Freddy cuz in flies The princess was going to be named cassidy but they changed it to princess also in princess quest old man consequences red king old man Consequences giving golden Freddy cassidy princess golden sword to battle fight against Glitchtrap burntrap william to.Andrew is in different au book world Also cassidy is Vengeful spirit Cassidy is the princess also cassidy was springlock to
Here’s all the evidence Andrews the vengeful spirit . Toy chica, anime cut scenes actually kill 7 people in the first there’s already a foxy hook, which likely represents Charlie (It’s also important to that the deaths are out of order but it’s mainly meant to show that William killed six kids with one he killed before Freddy’s) . Andrew’s representative is the puppet and is the 7th victim. This also indirectly confirms that he’s the midnight motorist kid due to the fact that toy chica does exactly what happens in that mini game . The bear of vengeance is about William kids before the Fnaf 4 mini games Foxy is Mike Freddy is bite victim Mangle is Elizabeth as a reference to the toy in her room in Fnaf 4 . Into the pit is 100% canon at this point due to it getting another book which is a sequel to the week before which is confirmed to be canon and it also getting its own game . Into the pit graphic novel shows that there are 6 kids 4 boys 2 girls (it’s also stated in the book, however graphic novel confirms it was not a mistake It is factual.) . Custom night is the 7 night and ucn is the 7 game so logically the 7 victim who would be the one who creates it . There’s 7 graves in Fnaf world next to purple guy implying their kids he killed. . In curse of dread bear, there is 8 graves surrounding Williams grave. (the 8 is tape girl while glitch trap isn’t William He thinks he is so he considers his kills on the same level as William) . Chica and mangle treat the one you should not have killed as a rarity like nobody has seen them before which doesn’t work for golden Freddy because they are literally a team. Chica was there when golden Freddy was born. And shown interacting with him in the Fnaf 2 opening cutscenes and mangle is literally influenced by them. (there’s an Easter egg in mangle fnaf 2 file with golden Freddy titled “yellow”) . Chica and mangle know the one you should not have killed it because they’re in the vents with him which means it can’t be golden Freddy because they never seen him before. . Golden Freddy and the one you should have killed her at the same location at the same time so they can’t be the same. . It said that he’s here and always watching implying he’s in every level of UCN Meanwhile, you can turn off golden Freddy anytime. .toysnhk is implied to not be participating in the torture he just watches. This is also further implied by nightmare Freddy “I am remade” he remade them just so he could watch William suffer . Golden Freddy actively tries to kill Afton. That’s not watching that’s participating. . The one you should not have killed voice is heard in the back of the mediocre melodies. Meanwhile, we hear FredBear’s voice and it’s literally just a bunch of distorted dialogue implying it different. . Scott himself confirmed that the one you should not have killed his male as he said, he used his son “Jason” as the picture for him. Cassidy is 100% a girl as proven the the fourth closet and the into the pit graphic novel . Nightmare, an entity tied to the Nightmare experiments stats that "THE SHADOW FEARS ME". "The shadow is referring to Xor/Deedee, who controls UCN. AKA, Andrew. . Mangle say “ and always watching” implying he’s not actually a part of the torment where golden Freddy is literally an opponent. . Toysnok and golden Freddy are treated as separate character. Toysnok is more of an Easter egg character. He appears rarely in game over screens. He also hides in the vents further adding to mangle statement of him always watching . Fred Bear’s voice by Kellen Goff while the one you should not have killed his voice by Tabatha skanes (Why wouldn’t they have the same voice if they were the same entity) . The toysnhk use the MM to talk to William these are characters Golden Freddy has nothing to do and has no connection to (also if he was GF why wouldn’t he use GF to talk though him) . Happiest day for is Cassidy meaning that they can’t torture William because they’ve moved on. Also, no golden Freddy doesn’t have two spirits. (evidence for this is that: the story was supposed to end at 3 and crying child in the encyclopedia isn’t listed in 3) . The man in room 1280 William is only stated to have two arms, not 2 hands so the design is still consistent . Cassidy torturing william is out of character since every instance they interact she just wants to kill him in fact in follow me. The spirits disappeared because they think William dead. (this gets even worse if you think the princess is her in my opinion it’s a recreation of not the actual spirit. Since the old man consequences and princess quest doesn’t add anything like the real one.) (this is going under the idea William didn’t die in the suit. Andrew just kept him alive) . Old man consequences says leave the demon to his demons. Implying that the one torturing William is just like him. . Everybody refers to the one you should not have killed as a guy Cassidy is a girl . Into the pit is getting a game, which is when the 6 kid was introduced. They’re not going to remove him since Andrew’s a vital plot point to the books. . The into the pit game is Cannon. It’s the 10th anniversary game. . Orville line “ he tried to release you. He tried to release us, but I’m not gonna let that happen. I will hold you here. I will keep you here no matter how many times they burn us.” this implies the spirit is attached to William as burn means they were burned together . Book argument is bad because Henry came from books and was add to game and so was the mimic. . Andrew is not a parallel to Cassidy due to the logbook showing what Cassidy is really like and she just seems like a nice person trying to help someone else. Where Andrew was mean due to his backstory and so tuation, so they’re not parallels. . There’s a weird theme that in UCN that implies that William and Andrew are the same William hates Henry and Andrew hates William. One of the ucn songs is called eisoptrophobia an unhealthy fear of mirrors. This implies William and the one you should not have killed are the same. Cassidy/golden Freddy is meant to be William opposite not the same as them so it can’t be them. . In 6 you can hear William’s heart beating meaning that the person is still alive in the suit. This means that somethings been keeping him alive since he’s wouldn’t be immortal yet due to him not actually getting immortal as his plan fails in follow me . Cassidy is incapable of attaching to Afton because they’re stuck to molten Freddy. Also doesn’t make sense for them to be able to do that because why haven’t they done that to anybody else? . If William knew he couldn’t die then it makes his appearance in 6 make much more sense. He knew it was a trap so why would he come simple he knows in the end he’s going to survive thanks to andrew . Nightmare Freddy knows who the one you should not have killed is implying a connection . In the song sleep no more you can hear a heartbeat, which is more proof that ucn is a nightmare caused by the spirit who attached himself to William . UCN is very connected to 4 and it’s implied that the one you should not have killed is an experiment victim of William. Ucn is the game that made Nightmarionne, nightmare, mangle Jacko chica and JackoBonnie Cannon. . Nightmarionne is UCN main icon character. . Nightmarionne line: “I am the fearful reflection of what you have created” Nightmarionne is the representation of the experiment rooms Williams greatest achievement, a place which is literally meant to torment children and kill them. Nightmarionne likely the creation of Andrews agony. .When you light 6 graves in PQ4 you encounter nightmarionne plush after that. . Neddbear line: “this is how it feels, and you get to experience it over and over again”. This is how it feels part of the line implies the spirit has been in a similar place to William where they had to defend from animatronics. . nightmare Freddy and fredbear voice line. “ I am remade but not by you by the one you should not have killed” “ this time there is more than a illusion to fear” . UCN final office is the Fnaf 4 one” . This also makes UCN narrative greater. William once fore and watched them go through tournament(the experiment room cameras in SL office) now they get to force and watch William go through torment. Until he blows up . Mimic has spring locks in his leg which is from the jester costume he was trapped in tales is canon, and there’s a story and tails called frailty about Eleanor meaning that stitchline is meaning that Andrew Cannon . Fnaf vr 2 grave lineups represent the order of the spirits were set free and golden Freddy is there Cassidy was set free. Now we need to ask the question: why is golden Freddy given so much relevance in UCN? I believe that golden Freddy/Fredbear is meant to represent Henry. Golden Freddy has all of the special abilities because of William fear of a golden Freddy because that’s the character who represents Henry in William mind We hear UCN FredBears lines and they’re not spirit lines. They’re just pawn lines like the other. “ let’s find a suit that’s right for you” “There was more fantasy and fun where I came from” The void cut scene is meant to represent William getting over his fear of Henry and what he did to him which is why golden Freddy fades away shaking violently likes springtrap It’s also important to know that molten Freddy is the golden Freddy representative of 6 golden Freddy has a representative in every game in the original story Fnaf 1: golden Freddy Fnaf 2: withered golden Freddy Fnaf 3: phantom Freddy (confirmed in the files) Fnaf 4: nightmare Fredbear Fnaf Sl:yendo Fnaf 6: nobody other than molten Freddy as it has to be in the main gameplay.
even scott confirmed it my guy, the books are canon. Though not all of them, for example ff stories like bunny call, jump for tickets, the pizza kit aren't canon, but the stitchline and stories connected to stitchline are all canon. Also tftpp and tftpp epilogues are full canon.
Sorry, pal, not true. Good try though. It's nice to hear your theories, no matter how incorrect they are to the official lore book. (Never coming to a Walmart near you).
What If I Say That Andrew Is A Vengeful Spirit, But Not In Fnaf Games...As U see This Character Appears Only In Fazbear Frights And It Doesn't Make Sense To Connect One Universe Character With Another. I Think That The Vengeful Spirit And TOYSNHK Are The Same Person And I Believe That There is Only One Soul in Golden Freddy. And U Will Say That Cassidy Is The Only MCI and Golden Freddy Soul. I Will Answer U That U Are Right, In Half, Cuz I Don't Believe In CassidyGirl Theory Cuz It Doesn't Make Sense [Like "Oh A Black Hair Girl, Name Cassidy in Logbook, Connection with Andrew"] That's Foolish. What About If I Say That Name[Cassidy] Doesn't Belong To One Of The MCI.Cuz This Name Can Be Gender-blindness which Means It is for girls or boys. What If I say It Belongs To The Crying Child. As U Can See The Only Character Who Doesn't Have His/Her Name Is The Crying Child And MCI5, But Of If Scott Removed Or Added One Character To Answer The Question [Why Golden Freddy is so special?]. It's Because Scott Removed MCI5 And Replaced Him To The Crying Child So He Gave The Answer Of This Question. It's Because The Crying Child Was The Only One Who Really Died In Pain And If U Look in Psychological Way U Can See That Trauma Like CC's Could Cause Emotional Changes And He could Probably Become From Weak And Crying Baby To The Vengeful Spirit. If There Will Be Question For Me, Then Write to me :>
Well first off, I believe stitchline and tales are in the games continuity so I don't think it's a matter of connecting two universe together for this theory to work. Scott said to use frights to fill in the blanks to the past and that some stories are connected to the games and some not. As for Cassidy, in the novels, Cassidy is a black-haired girl and in the logbook we have a black-haired girl who is being given cake by the puppet representing the happiest day minigame, along with the text 'reflect on the happiest day of your life'. So I do think that Cassidy is a girl in the games as well. The Crying Child idea isn't a bad one and it is interesting to think about but I don't think their name being Cassidy is the case. Also the vengeful spirit was killed by Afton and the Crying Child was killed by Mike and friends. So he could not be the vengeful spirit. Thanks for taking the time to comment :)
@Sethxiety I Am Glad You Answered And I Will Tell Some of my arguments. 1. What If In Logbook That Child Wasn't CassidyGirl? What If Puppet Was Giving A Cake To Charlie? You See Both Characters Girl From Logbook And Charlie From Fnaf 6 Minigame Have The Same Black Hair Color And They Are Both Connected To Puppet So It Would Make Sense. [I Know That Charlie In Books Has Brown, But I Don't Get Along With That Detail Cuz Of Fnaf 6 Minigame :>] 2. I Think U Forgot To Mention That The Crying Child Was An Experiment Of William Afton(Because Of Fnaf SB Detailes And Tales Of Pizzaplex) So He Could Possibly Be Vengeful To William More Than To Michael And His Friends After His Death.
@@Sethxiety The Problem Of Stichline Is That It Didn't Appeared In Fnaf Games And It can't be 100% true. U see not all universe can have Everything The Same, So What If They Have The Same Events But Different Characters That Are used in these events? Like In Fnaf FF Andrew Was The Vengeful Spirit while in Fnaf Games Cassidy Was. I want to say That Not All Characters Can Be The Same In Two Different Universe
The issue I take with this is that to me Cassidy is the opposite of Andrew and William. Cassidy unlike Andrew doesn't seem to want to keep Afton alive and wants him out of the picture.
Charlie IS the Puppet. Why would Charlie be giving Charlie cake? I think Crying Child was apart of William's experiments but not the same ones Andrew and Rory were subject to. I do think William made him scared by using the nightmares (maybe) but William wanted his son to be scared to experiment with his soul. After he died his soul lived on but it was shattered exactly as William wanted to see what he could do. the FNAF 4 experiments are him attempting to replicate this, possibly to further understand the shadows. If any of that made sense. Mike still killed him tho.
I am still unconvinced that Andrew exists in the game timeline but there's still interesting things to say about him. Symbolically, I think it's worth pointing out that both Andrew and OMC are represented with crocodile faces at times, but they have opposite reactions to the fate of Afton. The young boy wants to cause additional suffering, but the wise old man understands that suffering begets suffering and that to escape the cycle, one must choose rest.
It's kinda confirmed at this point but ok. But Cassidy is NOT the vengeful spirit for sure.
@@aminethbt885 How is Andrew in the games confirmed? Sincerely asking what convinced you.
@@blanktester Scott has stated some of the Frights stories are "directly connected" to the games. He literally confirmed some of the stories are within the games timeline. Those stories are the ones connected to the stitchwraith stingers. The real question is what convinces you he isn't in the games timeline? There doesn't seem to be any contradictions to Andrew not being in the games, why do think that?
@@aminethbt885 "Scott has stated some of the Frights stories are "directly connected" to the games. He literally confirmed some of the stories are
within the games timeline."
I agree that this is most likely true, but I do think the words "directly connected" are up to some interpretation.
"Those stories are the ones connected to the stitchwraith stingers."
This is pure speculation. The stingers are clearly connected to each other and the other stitchline stories but that doesn't imply that they are all in. They could equally be all out.
"The real question is what convinces you he isn't in the games timeline?"
I didn't say I was convinced he isn't in the games. I remain unconvinced that he IS in the game because I haven't seen evidence that he is in there. That means I'm neutral on the issue, not in the negative position.
"There doesn't seem to be any contradictions to Andrew not being in the games, why do think that?"
No, I don't think there is a contradiction with Andrew there or not. If he is in the games, that's fine, and if he isn't, that's also fine. I think the Stitchline stories are a little silly and not my favorites in the series, but the continuity of each story is still something I'm thinking about.
@@blanktester I hope one day we'll see the stitchwraith in a future mainline game so not only would clarify things, but would also be cool. I feel like the stitchwraith stingers are the closest FNaF has ever gotten with good story telling and horror imo. I understand your point. But I think it's very obvious. Sometimes you don't really need "evidence" to believe in something, all you need is just common sense. As we'll most likely never get any "evidence" of stitchlinegames. If it ever gets confirmed Andrew isn't in the games, however, it would be fine, but frustrating.
the thing that always confuses me when people say that "duh its obvious that golden freddy is the suit where the vengeful spirit posses, theres alot of golden freddy easter eggs"
but then we see withered chica saying that she has seen the vengeful spirit in the vents (which you know, GOLDEN FREDDY DOESN'T ENTER IN THE DAMN VENTS)
and this thing in the vents is vengeful spirit photo, and the photo is from a boy, and withered chica refers to the spirit as MALE SPIRIT
I see your point, but the vengeful spirit also appears in the doors, spirits can go wherever they want lol
@@Idklol208yeah but golden freddy doesn't, he only appears in office
I feel like you might be taking the "I have seen him, the one you shouldn't have killed" a little too literally but honestly fair
This is literally perfect. I didn't even realize that Chica in the High School years cutscene talked about going to his house and entering from the window. Good stuff dude
Thanks! Glad to see you liked the video
Great video! Unfortunately, I am a FNAF fan, and therfore hate that you have a different explanation for the lore than me. Aside from that, though, I loved it.
Idea: what if JRS is actually the mediocre melodies location and the reason orange guy can’t enter is because fazbear entertainment Bought them out and kicked due to his toxic behavior.
This explains why Andrew uses the MM there his dad creations
The reason why fazbear entertainment was able to buy them out is because they’re quite literally bootleg of the Freddy’s cast so they would probably be able to sue.
Oooo! Interesting
Great theory. 👍
But you missed one spot, that being his identity in the FNaF Movie as the Golden Freddy kid.
We actually don't know the identity of the golden Freddy kid in the movie
@Sethxiety yes we do. the blonde kid is the only one in abbys house when golden Freddy is there. that's pretty strong confirmation imo
@AAA_NNN_DDD no I mean we don't know his name
@Sethxiety technically, no, but I think its very obvious. he looks exactly like the image of the vengeful spirit from ucn, and has already been set up to be the vengeful spirit from the movies depiction of him. it felt very obvious to me, personally.
@AAA_NNN_DDD the face of the vengeful spirit is one of Scott’s sons. Just like Scott in HW the image is a stand in representation of an in universe character. Scott is a stand in for Steve the indie dev and his son’s face is a stand in for Andrew who has black hair, not blonde
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andrew is the opposite of omc, his color is green and omc is red
andrew is angry, while omc is chill
red is the opposite of green
i LOVED this video. you have completely changed my ideas on the vengeful spirit. i still have my own theories of course, but i think, thanks to your evidence, there's is no doubt that "the one should not have killed" is Andrew or at the very least, the game's stand in (if the stitchline theory isn't true)
Though the evidence works, and fits nicely in many ways, I just think too much of the lore comes out too late. I truly think the earliest evidence of a 7th victim, is in the Toy Chica cutscenes. I love the Toy Chica cutscenes, I’ve watched them far too many times, and came to a similar conclusion with Midnight Motorists and the 5th cutscene, but I still cannot explain that Foxy hook. But I really feel, other than that, there wasn’t anything. FNAF 6 lorekeeper ending emphasises these 6 graves, and the fact that MM is needed for this ending, is why I think the runaway is an MCI victim. Whilst Cassidy had a really cool secret name in the logbook, Andrew was just blatantly pointed out 2 years ago. I really feel that if Andrew was the Vengeful Spirit, why would the books spell out so exactly what UCN is, and what his name is; things that would be impossible for us to figure out, even in retrospect, at the time of UCN. Your argument is compelling but the more I listen to the TOYSNHK debate the more I hate FNAF lore 😭
My main problem with Andrew being the Vengeful Spirit is that I have yet to find a convincing alternative to Golden Freddy's appearances in the game that isn't him being the Vengeful Spirit. The OMC easter egg has him being fished out of the lake that is UCN, only for him to hop right back in, ignoring OMC's advice. The final scene of Golden Freddy is also eerie in nature, being shrouded in darkness, constant twitching, and dreadful music in the background. They just don't depict Golden Freddy as benevolent.
I'll stand corrected if the Into The Pit game or new book confirms Stitchline, but for now, I'm just not convinced.
For me, Cassidy is in ucn as an important character. She wants to end Afton and convince Andrew to let him go. As he refuses Cassidy decides she can’t convince Andrew to let him go and end it. As such she talks with omc and he says to leave the demon to his demons, rest your own soul. To me says this isn’t your fight anymore, you don’t have to be the one to kill William.
As such I believe contrary to belief she listens to him and why she dives into the lake. In fnaf world the lake leads to happiest day and as such I believe it does the same for Cassidy. She ends up with the other souls and allowing for the part to commence. I think the void cutscene is her leaving ucn. Golden Freddy twitching to me is because even though she listened to omc there is some hesitation to move on because of William and Andrew. I believe she is still here as the princess but that’s another discussion.
@@Sethxiety To be clear, I never said I thought you claimed Cassidy wasn't in UCN. The interpretation you're providing here is the one I've commonly heard amongst those who believe Andrew is the Vengeful Spirit. That's why I clarified that the scenes don't depict Golden Freddy as benevolent.
Sure, FNaF World has the lake lead to Happiest Day, but it's not exactly clear as to what that means in regards to FNaF World. It could be Scott & his two kids at the time, to throw out a possibility. It's also possible that, if Cassidy is the Vengeful Spirit, she considers torturing Afton her own happiest day.
Golden Freddy's twitching doesn't seem like hesitation. It's pretty aggressive, resembling Springtrap in the FNaF 3 trailer, like you mentioned in the video. Add onto that with all the other eerie aspects of the scene that I mentioned earlier.
@@UnoriginalJokester yes I am aware, just saying that to make my interpretation known. Happiest day is symbolic of the spirits experiencing happy memories allowing them to move on hence the name. So I don’t think ucn can be a happiest day tho I see where you are coming from.
Also worth pointing out I think the lake represents spirits moving on into the after life. In frights when Charlie destroys Afton once and for all both him and her sink to the bottom of a lake. Obviously Afton doesn’t experience a happy memory but I think it represents them both moving on from our world.
@@Sethxiety It's been a while since I last read the books, so my memory is a bit foggy when it comes to those bits. But if they sink to the bottom of a literal lake, then it may not necessarily parallel what we see in the OMC scene. It might just be a dramatic defeat, similar to some Disney movies where the villain falls off a cliff or something.
I think UCN's lake represents UCN itself, or at least its entrance. In FNaF World, when you fall through the lake, you get a really long scene of the bear just falling. In UCN, we get that in reverse order, where it starts with the bear falling only to end up in OMC's forest afterward. This would imply that the opposite is happening. Where in FNaF World you fall through the lake & out of OMC's forest, UCN has the bear being pulled out of the lake & into OMC's forest.
@UnoriginalJokester I just think the lake could just be symbolism. But your take on omc’s minigame is definitely a fair interpretation.
i think andrew is the vengeful spirit but cassidy is inside golden freddy, ucnDISSENT
I think the lake leads to happiest day rather than ucn. But she was in ucn for time before then
@@Sethxiety i dont think so, my idea for the final ucn cutscene is that if andrew still torturing afton, cassidy and the others can't have their happiest day, andrew is basically a anti-villan
Great video! I've been an Andrew TOYSNHK believer for awhile now but I always appreciate when someone actually puts together all the proof/evidence
Ay! Thank you! I appreciate the comment :)
It’s Andrew no doubt in my mind Going with the whole theory that UCN Fredbear is meant to be a representation of henry due to traumatizing him in 6.
By beating 50/20 William gets over his fear of Henry, which is why golden Freddy disappears
William is no longer scared of him so he fades away.
(I don’t believe ucn descent, because I don’t believe it’s possible for Cassidy to attach to Afton)
Also, OMC is just a different it’s just a non-ending or it’s an Undertale situation where you’re not supposed to play the game after that. By reopening UCN, you’re basically ignoring what he said.
I don't think Old Man Willy was ever shown or implied to be scared of Henry.....
@@ARandomGuy00725 he wasn’t until after the events of six
@@Sonicmid Could you please provide some evidence??
@@Sonicmid i think thats cassidy after she and the others not having their happiest day because of andrew's bs
@@ARandomGuy00725the screaming in old man consequences mini game shows that he was terrified
Here's a much easier route to take. We don't know for sure if Cassidy is 100% tied to Golden Freddy, so slap Andrew's name onto him, and boom. Vengeful Spirit. Theory solved.
Cassidy is the Golden princess you know what else is gold Golden Freddy Cassidy princess. And the files the princess was going to be named cassidy but they just changed it to princess.
@@Oreo-kv4gc the Cassidy file name for the princess sprites was removed. We can't use that as evidence for anything.
Her name reveal related to the gravestone in the logbook and the covered one in 6 implies she is golden Freddy
@@Sethxiety Implied, but not outright stated. If there's enough wiggle room for your interpretation, Andrew being TOYSHNK and not Golden Freddy, even when the game implies Golden Freddy is the one causing the events of the game to happen (ie; 50/20 mode ending), this should be fair game too.
@@mylam658 i think the cutscene is implying that cassidy didn't stop andrew from keeping afton alive, so she and the others cant have her happiest day, thats why she is in princess quest, she was not freed in the first place
Welp dam I used to believe toysnhk and the vengeful spirit was their own characters but now I change my mind about that I think they the same character now and also Nice video keep up the good work! And thank you for using some of or maybe not some of my evidence on why I didn't think toysnhk is cassidy to prove your theory on why you think andrew is the vengeful spirit and not cassidy I also think andrew is the vengeful spirit now but anyways uh yeah have a good day and I will see you on the flipside 😊
But they look very a like. 💀
@zeldristhecactus1304 WHAT IS IT WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARGUING WITH ME OVER SOMETHING STUPID LIKE SERIOUSLY DO YOU NOT GO OUTSIDE ENOUGH AND TOUCH GRASS? OR WHAT 🗿AND ALSO WHO ARE YOU REFFERING TO WHEN YOU SAY BUT THEY LOOK THE SAME? 💀
You brought up good points so far. Altho, that would Imply that Andrew also created and tried to help CC and the Others in FNAF World (Which has Lore relevance)
Andrew isnt connected with any of the other kids. Cassidy tries to get him to let William go because Cassidy simply wants Afton dead. When he doesn't listen she listens to OMC.
@@SethxietyStill ignoring some FNAF World Conections. We you Put The Pieces in Place for "Him" to Find them. Which would Imply that TOYSNHK has something in FNAF World AND a Conection to CC Through his Memories.
If TOYSNHK is The Puppet master Then He Must conect to at Least Cassidy and CC.
@doutorquem4279 i thought that too for a long time but I have an alternative theory for world I'll be working on soon.
@@Sethxiety Okay, I am curious now but I Will wait then.
Okay, I think I just realized they both can be vengeful spirits. Remember how there are two souls in Golden Freddy but refers to themselves in singular pronouns ("It’s Me")? What if "The One You Shouldn’t Have Killed" is two people (Andrew and Cassidy)?
It’s a possibility but I personally believe Golden Freddy has one soul
Theres also pig patch in high school years
Who was killed in a brutal way, and toy chica didn't find anything of good in him
This is true. I think it can work as Andrew or Cassidy
@@Sethxiety i think the puppet and pigpatch are the mixed ways of how afton killed andrew
he lured him from his house, used a bag to beat him, and drag into the car, just to him wake up in dittophobia experiments
Wait a second, isn't this BlackFootFerret's old Shadow Springtrap theory from 2015 with the names swapped? That's also about a spirit from an unknown kill event attaching themselves to William and keeping him alive to torture him after 3. Heck some people think Andrew is Shadow Bonnie and Cassidy is Shadow Freddy was also part of that.
I’ve never watched one of their theories so if it’s similar at all that is purely coincidence. However Andrew is said to have latched onto William’s soul and kept him alive in UCN. Whether or not he latched onto him after William killed him or after or during 6 is unclear. But if he is the vengeful spirit in the games then the only way Andrew could start UCN is if he was attached to William during 6.
I really believe that Andrew is the vengeful spirit, but my friend doesn't, he says that the only reasons why Andrew can't be the vengeful spirit is that Andrew has black curly hair and has an alligator mask, and his face is UCN (vengeful spirit) does not have these things....but books are different from games so Andrew will look different in games
I think the books besides the novel trilogy are within the games continuity which is why I believe Andrew is the vengeful spirit. However I do have another argument you could use if you agree with it that is.
The vengeful spirit's face in UCN is one of Scott's sons which was used as a stand-in for VS face. Think of it like Scott's cameo in Help Wanted. His picture was used as a stand-in for the indie dev Steve Snodgrass (from tales). Steve is not Scott nor does he look like him iirc.
@@Sethxiety also the fact that scott used the face of his son [[male]] confirms that the vengeful spirit is male and therefore he is not cassidy...but perhaps the vengeful spirit could be the Cryng Child because he was in golden freddy and then the face in UCN is similar to the design of the encyclopedia....but the cryng child was not killed by William....🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@3DOARDC Yeah it's not CC because William didn't kill him. Also I don't believe CC possesses Golden Freddy anymore. As he died in a hospital away from Fredbear so his soul could not be in there. But a part of him could be after his tears fell onto the animatronic.
And Andrew has little to do with the Golden Freddy, which is more the focus at UCN. Andrew wears an alligator mask, and the masks are probably supposed to refer to which animatronic the soul is attached to. Andrew wears an alligator mask in human-ghost form, which the face at UCN does not do. Although, I must also note that a UCN face doesn't fit anyone at all according to this rule
And Andrew's voice in the books is radically different from the voice/whisper that we hear behind Happy Frog, Neddbear etc.
@@TengryEmily1982 Maybe it's Michael Brooks? idk
Man this theory it's really great and well made, you're awesome man!
Thanks I appreciate that! Thanks for watching :D
You know honestly this was a really convincing theory, also a side note why would Cassidy speak through the mediocre melodys when he could just speak through golden freddy
Well I don’t believe Cassidy is the vengeful spirit. I think it’s Andrew. As for why idk. I’ve heard they were the first voice castings for the game so convince I guess
@@Sethxiety exactly! Sorry if I worded it weird but I meant that as an additional piece of evidence for your point
All good, no worries :)
YOU HAVE THE SAME IDEA AS ME-
Guys I’d say go check out dual process theory, they’re the most insane channel I’ve ever seen 1 theory and yet they made the entire timeline make sense 😭
Andrew doesn't exist in the games.
Yes, he does. He’s in UCN. lol
Awesome video! Good job man
Thanks dude!
We need more people like you.
AndrewTOYSNHK, AndrewMM and AndrewExperiment!!!
I also believe AndrewMCI.
Thanks! :)
We need less of these people they all will make the story rot
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Erm guys, why would Cassidy's name be such a big deal in the log book if she/he was just the last missing kid. Wouldn't narratively Cassidy's name be important if they are actually Important. Whats the point of hiding the name unless they serve a greater purpose. Whats the point of having 2 souls in golden freddy if both of them just chill in it together instead of being counter parts to eachother. And if Andrew is the Vengeful Spirit, then why is golden freddy such a focus. What makes Andrew's death so different? Also may i remind everyone that Scott said the books are canon but not canon in the same ways the games are. There are parallels. Also the Fazbear frights books kinda do what they want with Fazbear entertainment. In some stories, Fazbear Ent. is no longer functional, while other stories it seems they are very much a company that is still currently up and running. Also we shouldn't pick and choose whats canon in the books. If Andrew is the Vengeful Spirit then where does Fazgoo or Seabonnies fit in. How'd funtiem Freddy end up in a dump if he is canonically part of a rental agency and it cant be after Sister Location cause then he'd have to both Escape Molten Freddy, not be burned in Pizza Sim, AND get his old casing back on. And because of "The Man in room 1280" the books MUST happen after Pizza Sim and DURING/congruently with UCN. If thats the case then a lot of characters (like Funtime Freddy) make little sense even existing. Also dont forget Springtrap is both a videogame character AND an animatronic WHILE Afton is in the hospital. (Also baby springtrap is somewhere in the world...)
I think the books give us details the games just never had or included. I think the books even enlighten us to stuff we still dont get from the game series. My point is that we shouldnt pick and choose what is canon to the games from the books, because what is the rule for what is canon if everything else ismt. If Andrew is canon then why isnt Jake. It makes more sense to use the book as PARALLELS to the games. If were unsure about golden freddy having 2 souls, the books show us a dynamic like that. Also i think the hook/7th kill in Chica's bag is meant to represent Mike. In a lot of ways, Afton took Mike's life way. In both sending him to SL and using him throughout his life.
Cassidy’s name would be important because she is part of the MCI. They are the Golden Freddy spirit and Golden Freddy has always been mysterious so of course her name is going to be solved in a puzzle. Plus the Golden Freddy spirit is important in their own right. They serve as the leader of the MCI and is able to put souls back together as seen in the novels and implied with her relationship with CC.
I agree with the 2 spirits point, it's why I don't like goldenduo but it seems to be correct to some extent as suggested by the week before. However, I think it would either be as parts of his memories or GF in the games is where his consciousness lies. I believe in the theory ShatterVictim, the theory that CC’s soul is shattered amongst the MCI and other miscellaneous parts of the Freddy’s pizzeria. So I don't the GF spirits dynamic would be to serve as counterparts, as interesting as that would be, I think it's because CC has the strongest connection with GF and as such him and Cassidy can interact with each other help him be put back together. Like how Jake helps Andrew in Frights, because Andrew is scattered amongst various items similar to how CC would be scattered amongst the MCI and Jake helps being these objects together helping Andrew come together like Cassidy would do for CC.
Golden Freddy is a focus of UCN because one of their goals would be to end Afton once and for all. Ironically the Bear of Vengence intermissions show us Afton’s and Golden Freddy’s dynamic. She tries to thrawt him but he humiliates her every time. So this is just that again. She wants to end him but she cant cause of Andrew and she's probably enjoying Aftons torment too but wants him dead. It's her essentially realising that she cant kill him and she doesn't have too, Aftons consequences will catch up to him eventually. She puts aside her revenge and goes into happiest day to help her friends move on as they all need to move on together for CC. UCN serves as the end of the MCI’s story which makes sense as its the last instalment in Scott’s games.
Scott said the books are canon but different from the games about the novel trilogy, he never said that about the other books. In fact for Frights he said that some connect to the games and some don't. These stories unlike the novels, are intended to answer questions from the games so why would they not be within continuity? Especially as the events of the games happen in these books. It's also why Frights is weird with what some stories are. Some are not meant to be in the games and some are. Some even happen in different time periods. There are Freddy locations open in the Stitchwraith stories however they don't do well like at all. Which might be an early attempt at Fazbear reopening but failing, leading to HW.
We dont pick and choose what's canon, it's the stories that connect with the overarching narrative of frights which falls in line with what Scott told us to do with these books, tales once again is different cause there is no reason for them not to be in game continuity. Seabonnies and Fazgoo don't fit cause they are not in the stitchwraith stories but that doesn't mean the concepts cant be apart of the games. Funtime Freddy in CTW is a different Funtime Freddy, he has no Bon Bon. Plus Circus Baby’s reopened in the stories that connect with the games so that could explain that. Plus we have a precedence for characters to be mass produced via AR. Why cant the same apply to Funtime Freddy?
Springtrap can be a video game character whilst also existing. Fazbear made indie games and VR games to make fun of the stories of the past to rebrand and cover up the past. Also the story you are talking about is not apart of Stitchline so not in the games under that theory.
The books can exist in the games and still give narrative parallel stories to better understand characters, dynamics and can even enhance the story. Parallels exist in all stories it comes with storytelling.
Also Mike would not be the 7th victim in TCHSY cause he was not a direct victim of Afton’s which is what it is about. It's Afton luring his victims to their deaths, this does not happen with Mike.
Thanks for watching and commenting :)
@@Sethxiety woah you countered everything lol. Awesome. I also realized later that VIP in the Tales books kinda suggets the tales books take place before security breach since it talks about certain things under construction which would explain why stuff like the tree in the Tales books are also mising in SB. So that kinda comfirms to me the Fazbear Frights is canon yo the games lol. I do think the books tell a great narrative but the one reasom im against that their canon is cause "the man in room 1280" is still alive, but i always assumed afton was killed by his springlocking and then went on to possess the suit, in a poetic ironic twist (since he stuffed all the kids in the suits). But this suggests he never died and idk it just is unsatisfying. Like UCN is more a bad dream rather than his own perosnal HELL, forced to be killed over and over by creatures of HIS making. But maybe he was never meant to be dead. Afterall he didnt stop moving as the spirnglock cutscene ended. 🤷🏻♂️
Fnaf lore is fun to discuss lol.
Edit: i did not realize stitchline focused on specific stories so that changes my perspective a lot
@Levee-kx6ul yeah Afton nver died in Springtrap, his agony kept him alive which is something which happens in a few stories, people living on because of their agony. Also in fnaf 6 it's quite but if Afton is in his final position before he attacks you during the salvage sections, you can hear a heartbeat. Each animatronic has their own unique sound. I'm sure you can find it on youtube somewhere
@@Sethxiety that actuslly makes sense cause Mike is still alive after being scooped cause of the remnant injector. So like Father, like son i guess lol
Dual Process Theory concinced me that the vengeful spirit is Michael.
William didn't kill Michael though.
@@Sethxiety I recommend watching it, I found their arguments compelling in that regard
@@WinterPains William STILL didn't kill Michael though.
@@jaffarmoukdade879 Not with his own hands. But he sent him into Sister Location
William afton didn't kill michael afton and michael is a adult not a child like the vengeful spirit is you can hear the vengeful spirit voice through one of the mediocore melodie gang voice lines sounding like a child voice talking behind it then a adult's and also the vengeful spirit face is a child face and that is also the case based off the fact scott son's face is the image for the vengeful spirit face and in the fnaf movie we see a golden freddy soul that looks similar to the vengeful spirit face I am not saying they are the vengeful spirit but I am saying is it's not michael because he would need to be not related by william and a little boy and killed by william in order for him to be the vengeful spirit so that is why that is not the case and also there is a possibly michael survived fnaf 6 fire or died and not attach himself to william so he can torment william in ucn and also he would have had to attach himself to william if he died before the fnaf 6 fire happened but he did not and also michael does not seem that hateful to william to the point he wants to create william his own personal hell his haterd for william will most likely be to the point where he wants william dead and to rot in hell but not a hell created by himself but actual hell itself.
I feel Andrew is the one you shouldn’t have killed but not in the games in the cannon of the books
I believe stitchline and tales to be in the games continuity. But even if they are not I still think it makes more sense for it to be him
Amazing theory I enjoyed it the only thing that was off was Andrew MM where you said William was in a spring bonnie suit in the rain but if it was raining he would have been spring locked also I'm more convinced on Andrew being the one now good job i also thought the UCN heartbeat connection was genius
He could have used the old suit, the one glitchtrap is based off and that is on the posters, the sawn one that doesn't have animatronic parts
Either it wasn't raining when he was there or he didn't use the springlock suit. Something similar to Glitchtrap perhaps
It’s implied that the killer was the boy’s father in MM. When William Afton buried himself on said killer’s backyard. It’s so weird.
the thing is that we don't know what time the kid was kidnapped, before or after the rain starts
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Good one lol
52 seconds ago! cant wait to watch this one
Damn! 😅
Andrew isn't canon in the games. His game version (Al) isn't even golden freddy. He's Prototype Endoskeleton.
What do you mean by AI and he is prototype endoskeleton?
@@Sethxiety Al is a background character who appears in sprite form in several FNAF games. He was confirmed by Brightshadow (a FNAF concept artist and lorekeeper for steel wool) to possess a prototype Springlock endoskeleton. (Which appears in an ARG, FNAF world, and in the upcoming ITP game). He also owns most of the fazbear's locations after Henry quit.
@Candjstudios2024 I think you’ve been misinformed about this because there is no such thing as a character referred to as AI and I’ve never heard of some by the name of brightshadow at steel wool before. And there has never being a fnaf ARG.
@@Sethxiety one, no I haven't, two, yes there is, three, you wouldn't even know everyone who works a steel wool, an four, there was in 2023, and matpat brought it up on gtlive.
@@Candjstudios2024what is bro yapping about
This video aged in a mounth
Yeah, the potential Andrew had just died with AftonMM and ITP
@@Sethxiety Wait... AftonMM i get but Why Into The Pit?
@drquem4279 the 6th kid would be Andrew
@@Sethxiety Oh yeah... But this Since The Book and also, i dont think The Sixth Kid is Andrew. In Frights Continuity, he Would bê The Fifth (That being Golden Freddy), The New Kid connections really makes me Believe that.
@@drquem4279 Why would the secret 6th victim not be the secret victim of Afton's that is mentioned in UCN? Also I think that kid in the new kid is another one of Kelsey's victims
What are y’all opinions on UCNdissent?
That’s the theory that Cassidy left UCN yeah?
@@Sethxiety from my understanding, Andrew is TOYHNK and Cassidy is still trying stop him because, she wants Afton fully dead. And she did left after the OMC minigame. Maybe, to Fnaf world or happiest day? But yeah that’s pretty much it. What do you think of it?
@@captainet2457 This is what I believe yeah. She left and joined happiest day allowing for everyone to move on. Tho I still think Cassidy was still here until HW2.
@@Sethxiety okay then
Okay, HERE we go, the part that i was waiting for "MM cant be about the Aftons because he is not Purple but Orange/Yellow"
Boy, i wonder when William was represented as Yellow, oh yeah, in the PizzaSim intro and in FruitMaze, which conects the Two Colors into one giving us Clues about Yellow Guys identidy.
I don't think the guy in he intro is meant to be William. Also the text colours in fruity maze are blue and yellow.
@@SethxietyWhy? He is Purple And represents a Figure Of Authority in Fazbear Entertainment.
And Also Yellow still conects no Matter If this is Blue Or Pink. Its a Conection to William Also representing
Also, Midnight Motorist has a Conection to The Breaker Room Layout, who is conected to The FNAF 4 Mini-Games.
Also Also, The Runnaway kept Runnaway a Long time and Yellow Guy Cant Go to Where He is, so He is at Least in Jr's (Which is Fredbear's)
@doutorquem4279 i just dont. If it's an add for fnaf 6 then it would have to take place in 2023 and by then William is in springtrap. Also jrs being fredbear’s makes no sense of its the first establishment of pizza and food chains. Jr would imply it's either a sister location or a 2nd establishment of some kind to one of the various fazbear locations.
@@Sethxiety We see in Into The Pit that after a Stabilishment closes It Can taken another name
Also, you Can say that William isnt The Motorost because He is Purple, but you Can say that Intro Guy isnt William because He is Springtrap? That's Kinda stupid
@doutorquem4279 how is that stupid? If the fnaf 6 opening is an advertisement which tbf might not one in universe then how could it be William? I mean it could be representative of him but I just think he's some dude and doesn't mean much. Call that bias if you want but that's just what I think
I’m the vengeful spirit!
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Video so perfect 😭
Cassidy is a gender neutral name so it would make complete sense that he could be a boy
(I also believe that Cassidy is the crying child)
Cassidy is a girl with black hair in the novels and in the survival logbook it shows a girl with black hair receiving a cake very similar to the one for happiest day. On that exact page it mentions a happiest day. The logbook also gives us the name of the 5th MCI victim that being Cassidy.
Good video, but I don't think this is true. It just doesn't make sense for TOYSNHK to be some random mystery character that didn't exist when the game came out instead of a preexisting character that is nearly identical. And if you use pronouns as an argument, I could use the argument that Andrew is outright stated to have black hair.
Cassidy also has black hair
why the spirit photo have a boy face and not a girl face
@@Wizardjones69 its not really clear
is cassidy really as venegeful as you say she is to torment afton or have you been conditioned to think that due to a consensus accepted before the explanation came out (frights)
@@sicIico I would think she would be vengeful if she was springlocked and died in her own blood.
Why are you assuming Cassidy is a girl? Couldn't Cassidy be CC ? A boy.
No Cassidy is one of the mci kids not crying child. She is a girl in the novels and the survival logbook further implys this for the games
I'm actually the vengeful spirit 😈
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Cassidy was springlock Cassidy is Vengeful
The Golden princess is Cassidy golden Freddy cuz in flies The princess was going to be named cassidy but they changed it to princess also in princess quest old man consequences red king old man Consequences giving golden Freddy cassidy princess golden sword to battle fight against Glitchtrap burntrap william to.Andrew is in different au book world Also cassidy is Vengeful spirit
Cassidy is the princess also cassidy was springlock to
I believe stitchline and tales to be in the games continuity. But even without them I think it's still Andrew
Cassidy is not princess files help wanted 1 and 2
Glitchtrap literally confirmed be mimic
The princess is not Cassidy they literally remove it and you can kill them in VR 2
Here’s all the evidence Andrews the vengeful spirit
. Toy chica, anime cut scenes actually kill 7 people in the first there’s already a foxy hook, which likely represents Charlie (It’s also important to that the deaths are out of order but it’s mainly meant to show that William killed six kids with one he killed before Freddy’s)
. Andrew’s representative is the puppet and is the 7th victim. This also indirectly confirms that he’s the midnight motorist kid due to the fact that toy chica does exactly what happens in that mini game
. The bear of vengeance is about William kids before the Fnaf 4 mini games
Foxy is Mike
Freddy is bite victim
Mangle is Elizabeth as a reference to the toy in her room in Fnaf 4
. Into the pit is 100% canon at this point due to it getting another book which is a sequel to the week before which is confirmed to be canon and it also getting its own game
. Into the pit graphic novel shows that there are 6 kids 4 boys 2 girls (it’s also stated in the book, however graphic novel confirms it was not a mistake It is factual.)
. Custom night is the 7 night and ucn is the 7 game so logically the 7 victim who would be the one who creates it
. There’s 7 graves in Fnaf world next to purple guy implying their kids he killed.
. In curse of dread bear, there is 8 graves surrounding Williams grave. (the 8 is tape girl while glitch trap isn’t William He thinks he is so he considers his kills on the same level as William)
. Chica and mangle treat the one you should not have killed as a rarity like nobody has seen them before which doesn’t work for golden Freddy because they are literally a team. Chica was there when golden Freddy was born. And shown interacting with him in the Fnaf 2 opening cutscenes and mangle is literally influenced by them. (there’s an Easter egg in mangle fnaf 2 file with golden Freddy titled “yellow”)
. Chica and mangle know the one you should not have killed it because they’re in the vents with him which means it can’t be golden Freddy because they never seen him before.
. Golden Freddy and the one you should have killed her at the same location at the same time so they can’t be the same.
. It said that he’s here and always watching implying he’s in every level of UCN Meanwhile, you can turn off golden Freddy anytime.
.toysnhk is implied to not be participating in the torture he just watches. This is also further implied by nightmare Freddy “I am remade” he remade them just so he could watch William suffer
. Golden Freddy actively tries to kill Afton. That’s not watching that’s participating.
. The one you should not have killed voice is heard in the back of the mediocre melodies. Meanwhile, we hear FredBear’s voice and it’s literally just a bunch of distorted dialogue implying it different.
. Scott himself confirmed that the one you should not have killed his male as he said, he used his son “Jason” as the picture for him. Cassidy is 100% a girl as proven the the fourth closet and the into the pit graphic novel
. Nightmare, an entity tied to the Nightmare experiments stats that "THE SHADOW FEARS ME".
"The shadow is referring to Xor/Deedee, who controls UCN. AKA, Andrew.
. Mangle say “ and always watching” implying he’s not actually a part of the torment where golden Freddy is literally an opponent.
. Toysnok and golden Freddy are treated as separate character. Toysnok is more of an Easter egg character. He appears rarely in game over screens. He also hides in the vents further adding to mangle statement of him always watching
. Fred Bear’s voice by Kellen Goff while the one you should not have killed his voice by Tabatha skanes
(Why wouldn’t they have the same voice if they were the same entity)
. The toysnhk use the MM to talk to William these are characters
Golden Freddy has nothing to do and has no connection to
(also if he was GF why wouldn’t he use GF to talk though him)
. Happiest day for is Cassidy meaning that they can’t torture William because they’ve moved on. Also, no golden Freddy doesn’t have two spirits. (evidence for this is that: the story was supposed to end at 3 and crying child in the encyclopedia isn’t listed in 3)
. The man in room 1280 William is only stated to have two arms, not 2 hands so the design is still consistent
. Cassidy torturing william is out of character since every instance they interact she just wants to kill him in fact in follow me. The spirits disappeared because they think William dead.
(this gets even worse if you think the princess is her in my opinion it’s a recreation of not the actual spirit. Since the old man consequences and princess quest doesn’t add anything like the real one.)
(this is going under the idea William didn’t die in the suit. Andrew just kept him alive)
. Old man consequences says leave the demon to his demons. Implying that the one torturing William is just like him.
. Everybody refers to the one you should not have killed as a guy Cassidy is a girl
. Into the pit is getting a game, which is when the 6 kid was introduced. They’re not going to remove him since Andrew’s a vital plot point to the books.
. The into the pit game is Cannon. It’s the 10th anniversary game.
. Orville line “ he tried to release you. He tried to release us, but I’m not gonna let that happen. I will hold you here. I will keep you here no matter how many times they burn us.” this implies the spirit is attached to William as burn means they were burned together
. Book argument is bad because Henry came from books and was add to game and so was the mimic.
. Andrew is not a parallel to Cassidy due to the logbook showing what Cassidy is really like and she just seems like a nice person trying to help someone else. Where Andrew was mean due to his backstory and so tuation, so they’re not parallels.
. There’s a weird theme that in UCN that implies that William and Andrew are the same William hates Henry and Andrew hates William.
One of the ucn songs is called eisoptrophobia an unhealthy fear of mirrors. This implies William and the one you should not have killed are the same.
Cassidy/golden Freddy is meant to be William opposite not the same as them so it can’t be them.
. In 6 you can hear William’s heart beating meaning that the person is still alive in the suit. This means that somethings been keeping him alive since he’s wouldn’t be immortal yet due to him not actually getting immortal as his plan fails in follow me
. Cassidy is incapable of attaching to Afton because they’re stuck to molten Freddy. Also doesn’t make sense for them to be able to do that because why haven’t they done that to anybody else?
. If William knew he couldn’t die then it makes his appearance in 6 make much more sense. He knew it was a trap so why would he come simple he knows in the end he’s going to survive thanks to andrew
. Nightmare Freddy knows who the one you should not have killed is implying a connection
. In the song sleep no more you can hear a heartbeat, which is more proof that ucn is a nightmare caused by the spirit who attached himself to William
. UCN is very connected to 4 and it’s implied that the one you should not have killed is an experiment victim of William.
Ucn is the game that made Nightmarionne, nightmare, mangle Jacko chica and JackoBonnie Cannon.
. Nightmarionne is UCN main icon character.
. Nightmarionne line: “I am the fearful reflection of what you have created” Nightmarionne is the representation of the experiment rooms Williams greatest achievement, a place which is literally meant to torment children and kill them. Nightmarionne likely the creation of Andrews agony.
.When you light 6 graves in PQ4 you encounter nightmarionne plush after that.
. Neddbear line: “this is how it feels, and you get to experience it over and over again”. This is how it feels part of the line implies the spirit has been in a similar place to William where they had to defend from animatronics.
. nightmare Freddy and fredbear voice line.
“ I am remade but not by you by the one you should not have killed”
“ this time there is more than a illusion to fear”
. UCN final office is the Fnaf 4 one”
. This also makes UCN narrative greater. William once fore and watched them go through tournament(the experiment room cameras in SL office) now they get to force and watch William go through torment. Until he blows up
. Mimic has spring locks in his leg which is from the jester costume he was trapped in tales is canon, and there’s a story and tails called frailty about Eleanor meaning that stitchline is meaning that Andrew Cannon
. Fnaf vr 2 grave lineups represent the order of the spirits were set free and golden Freddy is there Cassidy was set free.
Now we need to ask the question: why is golden Freddy given so much relevance in UCN?
I believe that golden Freddy/Fredbear is meant to represent Henry. Golden Freddy has all of the special abilities because of William fear of a golden Freddy because that’s the character who represents Henry in William mind
We hear UCN FredBears lines and they’re not spirit lines. They’re just pawn lines like the other.
“ let’s find a suit that’s right for you”
“There was more fantasy and fun where I came from”
The void cut scene is meant to represent William getting over his fear of Henry and what he did to him which is why golden Freddy fades away shaking violently likes springtrap
It’s also important to know that molten Freddy is the golden Freddy representative of 6 golden Freddy has a representative in every game in the original story
Fnaf 1: golden Freddy
Fnaf 2: withered golden Freddy
Fnaf 3: phantom Freddy (confirmed in the files)
Fnaf 4: nightmare Fredbear
Fnaf Sl:yendo
Fnaf 6: nobody other than molten Freddy as it has to be in the main gameplay.
Cassidy; Books aren't canon.
I think stitchline and tales are game canon. But if they're not then I still think Andrew is the one.
even scott confirmed it my guy, the books are canon. Though not all of them, for example ff stories like bunny call, jump for tickets, the pizza kit aren't canon, but the stitchline and stories connected to stitchline are all canon. Also tftpp and tftpp epilogues are full canon.
No Scott did not confirm any thing at all
The books are cannon tho
@@Oreo-kv4gc yes he did
Sorry, pal, not true. Good try though. It's nice to hear your theories, no matter how incorrect they are to the official lore book. (Never coming to a Walmart near you).
Source: I made it up
andrew is the vengeful spirit, cope about it
@@Wizardjones69 y'all really don't realize who I am. Check the credits of security breach douchebag.
And Kelsey?
What about Kelsey?
What about him?
He only look like golden freddy spirit movie
He is just elleanor
@@Wizardjones69or story hints to us golden freddy spirit original not had blonde hair and blue eyes
What If I Say That Andrew Is A Vengeful Spirit, But Not In Fnaf Games...As U see This Character Appears Only In Fazbear Frights And It Doesn't Make Sense To Connect One Universe Character With Another.
I Think That The Vengeful Spirit And TOYSNHK Are The Same Person And I Believe That There is Only One Soul in Golden Freddy.
And U Will Say That Cassidy Is The Only MCI and Golden Freddy Soul. I Will Answer U That U Are Right, In Half, Cuz I Don't Believe In CassidyGirl Theory Cuz It Doesn't Make Sense [Like "Oh A Black Hair Girl, Name Cassidy in Logbook, Connection with Andrew"] That's Foolish.
What About If I Say That Name[Cassidy] Doesn't Belong To One Of The MCI.Cuz This Name Can Be Gender-blindness which Means It is for girls or boys.
What If I say It Belongs To The Crying Child.
As U Can See The Only Character Who Doesn't Have His/Her Name Is The Crying Child And MCI5, But Of If Scott Removed Or Added One Character To Answer The Question [Why Golden Freddy is so special?]. It's Because Scott Removed MCI5 And Replaced Him To The Crying Child So He Gave The Answer Of This Question.
It's Because The Crying Child Was The Only One Who Really Died In Pain And If U Look in Psychological Way U Can See That Trauma Like CC's Could Cause Emotional Changes And He could Probably Become From Weak And Crying Baby To The Vengeful Spirit.
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Well first off, I believe stitchline and tales are in the games continuity so I don't think it's a matter of connecting two universe together for this theory to work. Scott said to use frights to fill in the blanks to the past and that some stories are connected to the games and some not.
As for Cassidy, in the novels, Cassidy is a black-haired girl and in the logbook we have a black-haired girl who is being given cake by the puppet representing the happiest day minigame, along with the text 'reflect on the happiest day of your life'. So I do think that Cassidy is a girl in the games as well.
The Crying Child idea isn't a bad one and it is interesting to think about but I don't think their name being Cassidy is the case. Also the vengeful spirit was killed by Afton and the Crying Child was killed by Mike and friends. So he could not be the vengeful spirit. Thanks for taking the time to comment :)
@Sethxiety I Am Glad You Answered And I Will Tell Some of my arguments.
1. What If In Logbook That Child Wasn't CassidyGirl? What If Puppet Was Giving A Cake To Charlie? You See Both Characters Girl From Logbook And Charlie From Fnaf 6 Minigame Have The Same Black Hair Color And They Are Both Connected To Puppet So It Would Make Sense.
[I Know That Charlie In Books Has Brown, But I Don't Get Along With That Detail Cuz Of Fnaf 6 Minigame :>]
2. I Think U Forgot To Mention That The Crying Child Was An Experiment Of William Afton(Because Of Fnaf SB Detailes And Tales Of Pizzaplex) So He Could Possibly Be Vengeful To William More Than To Michael And His Friends After His Death.
@@Sethxiety The Problem Of Stichline Is That It Didn't Appeared In Fnaf Games And It can't be 100% true. U see not all universe can have Everything The Same, So What If They Have The Same Events But Different Characters That Are used in these events? Like In Fnaf FF Andrew Was The Vengeful Spirit while in Fnaf Games Cassidy Was. I want to say That Not All Characters Can Be The Same In Two Different Universe
The issue I take with this is that to me Cassidy is the opposite of Andrew and William. Cassidy unlike Andrew doesn't seem to want to keep Afton alive and wants him out of the picture.
Charlie IS the Puppet. Why would Charlie be giving Charlie cake?
I think Crying Child was apart of William's experiments but not the same ones Andrew and Rory were subject to. I do think William made him scared by using the nightmares (maybe) but William wanted his son to be scared to experiment with his soul. After he died his soul lived on but it was shattered exactly as William wanted to see what he could do. the FNAF 4 experiments are him attempting to replicate this, possibly to further understand the shadows. If any of that made sense. Mike still killed him tho.