The Eighth Oecumenical Council (Constantinople 879)
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2022
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Sunday of the Holy Fathers, Troparion, Tone VIII -
Most glorious art Thou, O Christ our God, Who didst establish our fathers, as torch-bearers on earth and through them didst guide us all to the true faith. Most Compassionate One, glory to Thee.
Kontakion, Tone VIII -
The preaching of the Apostles, and the dogmas of the fathers, confirmed the one faith of the Church. And wearing the garment of truth, woven from heavenly theology, she rightly dispenses and glorifies the great mystery of piety.
Thanks be to God for St. Photios.
St. Photios Returned to communion with The Holy See of Rome before his death.
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@nickkerinklio8239 this is true... look into it. Fact is, the case hasn't been fully or honestly presented here.
@@nicholasgeranios it’s not my business what he did after, but the councils decision was already made.
Judas betrayed Jesus before his death, what is your point?
O Holy and Venerable St Photius of Constantinople, pray for us sinners!!
This knowledge must be passed down and passed abroad!! 🎉🎉🎉
Found out about this via a footnote in my Sluzhebnik!
Excellent video
Hello, I have a sincere question, is there any Coincil of the first Ecumencal Coincils that states that the bishop of Rome has the final authority or word in matter of interpretation of Scriptures? Which one is it if there is one? Thank you in advance.
NO. Not in the sense of OVER the other bishops and entire Church.
Look at the Acts of the Apostles and the Council in Jerusalem. That is the place of Peter, and every bishop, in the Church: a voice - perhaps a very powerful voice - among his brethren. Out of love and respect they listen - not because he has POWER OVER THEM.
Great video ☦️☦️☦️
I have several English translations of other Ecumenical Councils, but would love if someone would do this one.
Was this Oecumenical Council attended by delegates from Spain, Portugal or England, and what did they have to say? How did they vote? How did they report back to their respective synods or bishops' conferences, if I may use a modern expression?
Yes Baptist --> Orthodoxy. Thank you for this.
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This different view on the 4th council of Constantinople between East and west needs to get sorted out
Let us pray for unity in the truth.
-A Catholic
I agree but it means the Pope recognising all the heresies of the Church of Rome and overturning them.
Question please!
Some object and say "but the creed of the spirit proceeding is from the Constantinople I council NOT NICEA" and therefore the anathema of Constantinople 4 would condemn Constantinople 1 for "changing or adding to the creed".
How would you awnser this?
For me i have 2 ways but i want to know from your experience.
1. Anathemas only properly work going FORWARD not looking back. So you can't anathema someone earlier than you for a later declared doctrine.
2. The 8th council cites Constantinople 1 creed AS THE NICEAN CREED thereby clarifying that if anyone adds to the Nicean creed AS READ OUT ACCORDING TO THE CONSTANTINOPLE 1 DEFINITION: let him be anathema
Who are the "some"? From what the fathers declare is not an addition but a change. The main concern was to not translate it into other languages, as the fear was that is when the Symbol of Faith would be changed in meaning! You will find in most Greek parishes recited in the language of the people and in Greek! Even the Thrice Holy Hymn was revealed in Greek and so again, in Greek parishes outside of Greece will sing in Greek, and if your lucky, maybe in the language of the parish if not Greek.
The name came to be - short-hand - the Nicean Creed but what was meant always was the full creed of Nicea-Constantinople, as it witnessed to by the Council minutes (of 879) and that we always recite the entire creed even if we only say the Nicea Creed.
8th Œcumenical counsil. I like typing the Œ
Father Peter is it possible that Filioque heresy was brought forth by the Roman/Western Church because it "promoted" the "vicar of christ" mentality that Jesus the created son of God gave the Holy Spirit to the Church,not the uncreated Father God,who is creator of all.
Roman Church wanted "created man to give the gift of the Holy Spirit"not God alone.
Hope make some sense and am i on the right track.
I do not see this in the historical record or apologetics of Rome, no.
@@OrthodoxEthosRev. father, in light of the pursuit of truth I bring this to your attention.
The Pentacostal movement brought the subject of the Holy Spirit to the fore, and as Christians we have always known the meaning of the expression "in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit" in our bodies, which are His temples.
John 14:23 does appear to support the _filioque:_
"Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." (Jn. 14:23)
Ofcourse, the so-called 8th and 9th councils were not called by emperors as the previous 7...also they are not in the services of the Church as is the 7!
The very FIRST ecumenical council in Jerusalem, which proceedings were recorded in the Book of Acts, had nothing to do with Caesar whatsoever. 🤣
@pj-vu3cn that would be an innovation, as the services commemorate the First Ecumenical Council as that of the Holy Fathers! Your obviously NOT orthodox, or just from Academia lacking the holiness of those illumined and being sanctified through partaking of the Holy Mysteries. Your pick!
@@sifu9683 You do err in your lack of knowledge and hysterical accusations.
From ORTHODOX WIKI:
"The Apostolic Council of Jerusalem was the first council in the Church’s history and is described in the Acts of the Apostles. It took place around the year 50 in Jerusalem."
@pj-vu3cn "Apostolic Council" is correct, "the very FIRST Ecumenical Council in jerusalem" is wrong! Which is it? Apostolic Council or FIRST Ecumenical Council? Is it your NOT Orthodox, or a follower of worldly Academia? Your pick!
@@sifu9683 It means the same thing. Ask any Orthodox priest. Ecumenical councils are synods of BISHOPS - successors to the Apostles.