DOES USING A BASS KNOB MATTER ON YOUR AMP?
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It may be better to run no bass knob at competitions, but for us with daily drivers, it's priceless to be able to kill the bass when u see a cop vs having to hurry amd low it down or hit the mute button.
Put a switch on your remote wire
@@dnastats no..
@@ronnydisalvo80 any legit reason you say no
@@dnastats he’s just lazy
Why you gotta worry about police when bumping? F 'em. Keep that music cranked!
Thanks for the video man! I'll be waiting for the full tilt video comparison
The Bass knob is essentially just a potentiometer (variable resistor) which the amp circuitry uses to make comparisons to determine volume level in relation to the set gain of the amplifier. Since all wires have resistance, it's impossible to remove the resistance value of the long wires for the bass remote (there's a voltage drop between the amp and the knob which you can measure with a multimeter). You could also verify this by measuring the resistance value at the end of the cable with the knob both fully up and down. I would recommend anyone removing their bass knob to ensure they recalibrate their amp gain as this additional signal could be introduce clipping which can harm the subwoofer voice coils.
Bruh honestly who cares shhhit if you gotta sun or subs or subsssssss want allll the bass am I right so all gain and let them clip
@russel I was going to say the exact same thing
You should really be setting your gain before adding the bass knob anyways
The bass remote only exists to lower the bass and control bass output
When you remove the remote the amp goes to full bass.
I've only been aware that when you remove the remote bass (or when the wire isn't actually connected to the bass knob) that the gain is essentially maxed. I imagine pulling the remote connection out to power off the amp would be safe enough
MAX on the bass knob vs base gain on the amp may not be the same. The bass knob is a potentiometer. It may not be calibrated to be exactly matched at 100%, especially if it's not the same one that came with the amp. That is why you should (and probably did) set your gains with the knob installed and at max.
I've tested all kind of bass knobs. My last spl cartel knob had 30ohms on 1 channel and 5 on the other, replace with new lc1 4.5 ohms on each channel. Another known good knob, same as the lc1.. I have concluded that I'm just going to control sub level with head unit to get the most out of the system. There simple WILL be resistance in you signal using a bass knob, no way around rather than to delete it... Sucks because i wanted the fancy bass knob and such but it is what it is
As a former spl junkie, bass knobs tend to do lower # at full tilt, 3/4 is the sweet spot.
so true. driving around, my sweet slot is actually just below half. it's not maxed out, but loud enough to quench the bass thirst.
That’s how I keep mine at 3/4 it hits the best
Ty I really needed this video. Cause I broke my bass knobe and haven't use my amp because of that ty again
What about the spl cartel bass knob? Is that not hooked up either? I've heard of the rca bass knobs changing output as well. So far I've had good luck with my bass knobs
I always wondered this... Great video Jake
I’ve noticed it made a different on the older Rockford Fosgate amps,even with the knob all the way down.
Old post, but is there a reason why my amp gets extremely hot and in protect if the bass knob is plugged in and runs fine with it out
I’ve noticed my system got louder with a bass knob some years ago
Funny you asked... i got a Orion XTR15001DZ class D 1500 watt amp. At 1st I was lazy to run the line for the bass knob, when I put the knob in?? The knob killed the bass. Muffled it horribly. I simply disconnected the knob, bass ROCKS again. SOO.. with mine NOOO BASS knob!!
Maybe because the bass knob adjusts the bass (well never!!) if you have it at minimum and un-plug it then the bass will jump up to normal so that sudden jump (transient) could cause damage but if you have the bass set to where it would be without the bass knob and un-plug it then the bass will stay where it is and no jump so no damage.
Please anyone correct me if I'm wrong or if you know or have any other explanations, thanks.
yo i got a question. my subwoofer won’t make any noise which bass knob plugged in all my wiring is good but when i unplug the wire from the base knob it clips (idk what clip means but i assume just the subwoofer jumping to max gain for a split second) and if i touch the end of the aux cord for the knob, my subwoofer works. i currently have the knob unplugged because i thought it was a problem with it. lmk if you know anything that could help, thanks
@@maddoxschroeder1712 gain control on the amp needs adjusting most likely or check your cross over and low pass filter
Bass knobs are god send on daily or just for removing bass for certain music
i have a question about my amp n speaker.i think my so called mechanic cut this cord and now theres no bass.and i dont know anything about this.its on my 2011 chrysler 300
Which type of cable is this remote cable? Im trying to find it. RJ11?
I noticed taking my bass non out my system was a bit louder
Hey Jacob. Can you do the same test with the RCA gain controller you have. Would be cool to know the difference.
I only use a RCA knob...the LC1. Use in both car and truck.
Facts! I noticed with my Digital Designs bass knob plugged in it wasnt as low and didnt hit as low for some reason. So now I only plug it in to make sure im not clipping lmao
Bass knob creates resistance there for there's always a little resistance when they're plug in that's how they work
I need help i dont much about this tho, i bought and amp from a friend it is a 2000w audiofonics that came without the bass control knob, i wanna get one but i dont wich one it needs, i look at the amp and it has a six cable/pin phone like connection. I'll appreciate any help
Unless you can get from the manufacturer replacement I wouldn’t trust just any bass knob that may not be compatible and could damage amp. You could always get an rca bass knob instead: amzn.to/3rGt0Q9
Why didn't you do full tilt and test I am very interested in the difference at full tilt
Just wondering why you use both bass knobs. I feel like the sound cubed knob isn’t really needed but Im still learning everyday.. 🤷🏼♂️
Will post why video soon
Anyone with a RF amp with the c.l.e.a.n. system, where do you set the bass knob during the setup up for the input clipping? Instructions don't say anything until you set output gain.
Bass knob all the at up when tuning always the gain
I always feel like my system sounds louder when I don't have my knob plugged in.
I turned my Amp gain with knob all away down. Unfortunately. Can I remove a plug and drive without it safely for amp and my ears?) Thanks
Yea a lot of people do that
Pioneer amplifiers use bass boost through the bass knob
I'm confused. Why would the gain be at max for a test and the bass knob be at zero for the other test? I was under the impression that the knob controlled the gain from zero to max. I'm I trippin?
When you disconnect the knob, the system reverts to the physical gain level set at the amp. Or if you are talking about the knob being turned to the left, that knob is MAX all the way to the left, rather than right.
The bass knob doesn't control the gain - only the output, you want to set your gain with the knob disconnected or turned all the way up, then when you max out the knob you don't have to worry about the gain getting messed up
I broke my signal cable connector is it RJ12 ?
Remote is ok to remove I would be removing and adding rcas tho.
Can you please post a video on how to setup a bass knob? I have the Rockford Fosgate R2-500X1 amplifier with the supplied bass knob in the packaging.
Will have a video posted in august sure.
@@JacobViral2 thank you
i use to unpluge my bass knob while music was playing to see what happen it didnt sound as good bass became more flat not as deep. seem to me with the bass knob pluged in bass became deeper smoother
Correct me if I'm wrong but is the bass controller designed to tone the amp down and your main settings made on amp itself I have always did my maximum settings on amp and used the controller to dial it down when needed
Correct use knob to adjust as needed for bass
The set-point of the gain equals the max power that will be output to the sub. Installing a potentiometer allows the gain to be decreased from the set-point. You wont get 100% because they use a resistor that has 1% tollerance
Yes exactly, The gain on the knob can't go above the set point of the gain set on the amp. It can only go down from that set point.
When I crank my car up / drive off my speakers make a loud noise like a loud humming noise . Do you know what might be the problem?
Remote wire is to close to the 12v wire
My Memphis prxa 1000.1 is more powerful without the remote plugged in
I was going to get my amp installed but I can't find a bass knob for it they dont make them for my amp anymore do I need one?
Get a rca bass knob: amzn.to/3PdSUo5 ; don’t need amp knob
Aw snap I learned something new thank you 100%
Yo Jacob. I got some problems with my system I have hooked up in my 2009 ford flex. Wondering if you might be able to answer a few question that I got?
Whats up man, ask away, maybe i can help. I like troubleshootin pow, pow.
Sure message me on Instagram or Facebook Jacob viral. Comment away for me and others to assist to.
Do you think the RCA bass knobs affect output or sound at all aswel? Cheers
Yes, think about the wire being damaged or possible lower quality/output if not properly set. Also could disconnect and cause issues. Overall, no bass knob = safest but not always most convenient.
What name of the socket?
Great vid😌
So my bass knob keeps flickering and I’m not getting bass but when I push in the connection part HARD it starts thumping what’s that mean
Bad connector on the bass knob. Return it and get another one. That is a manufacturing issue. My bass knob connecter snaps into the amp but there still is wiggle room at the amp connection. These potentiometer's are made cheaply and even the good ones you lose about a half DB total volume due to wire resistence. They are convenient so I still use mine as source material from radio to MP3, to lossless music I listen to have variable bass volumes and I need to adjust on the fly.
Interesting...i would have just unplugged it tho instead of shutting the vehicle off and doing the test right after startup
My Audiobahn amp pops when I turn it up or down with knob why is that?
Sounds like a short in connection
Jacob what is affecting your db output isn't that soundqubed remote but you not owning a soundqubed hdx3 subwoofer😁Just messing with you. You asked what subwoofer you should get next. Try a 15 or a 18" love your video and try what gets you to 150db.
How does that make any sense lol you don’t have to brand match anything dude that’s complete bs
@@giovanniwolf7198 I was just messing with Jacob. See along time ago he used to have 2 18 hdc3 on 2 hifonics amps. Now I have 2 18 hdx3 on 2 hifonics amps. He can get any brand or any size he wants but his older build with 2 18s in a no wall same SUV was very loud. I put the video in my subwoofer setups playlist category. Jacob gets 100% credit for the video. Its just a playlist video with over 200 different subwoofer setups.
hi, connecting the bass knob remote have totally no effect for me. The amplifier does not seem to respond to the knob. What could be the reason?
Short in the wire or amp. Or non compatible with the amp. Also can use an rca bass knob like a LC1
@@JacobViral2 thanks for your answer. It comes with the soundstream picassco P1000 monoblock amp. I ran the wire under the carpet nicely and then its not working. I am thinking if I could get a RCA knob or replace the current wire. I couldn't find the wire on amazon.
@@JacobViral2 my amp is still playing, does that safely suggest its probably a short in the wire and not the amp?
Do it full tilt test!!!
My bass nob when put to max has 0 bass and when I unplug it my bass is crazy maby it’s my fault I messed up on something any ideas?
Could be reversed or faulty knob?
It makes a difference on Rockford amps.
Great vid man😎👍
I got my bass knob wet for been on the floor..can that cause my amp not to work? All my door speakers still work except my subs ..hope you can help me out with my question
Thank you! I would disconnect the Bass knob and make sure the amp is connecting correctly and everything equipment wise is good. Water damage can blow stuff sadly as it’s electrical.
Thank you brother... I just checked the amp and it still on.. I think the epicenter just took a 💩 😬😬😬 ... ima get a new one ..do I have to replace the RCA's too?
Trial and error, replace and see if fixed and if not go the extra route.
I want it lol thanks for the video Jacob
117.74? Was that thing on? Did you start the vehicle ? Is the gain set low on the amp ?
Low volume test I always do same 20 volume.
My amp keeps going in protection mode someone said to unplug the knob and it should go to normal idk
If it’s only when playing high volume levels then that’s the problem.
I thought when working with anything electrical to remove the NEGATIVE terminal on the battery..... How you pop fused and worse
seems like in every video you have your settings on the amp is different why is that ?
Fine tuning the amp for better quality output
Sometimes cutting gain back and adding a couple db bass boost on a specific frequency on persay 4th and 6th order boxes, generally you do wanna set your amp gain acordingly after boost, you can actually gain on the meeter by doing so if your searching for db, you can use a dsp and use it like you would your normal radio but in this case you'd have more ajustibility on the low end and top end extension this also would allow you to set crossovers and slopes Wich I have always suggested for said order alignment boxes, because it really brings them to life the point in having high order bandpass boxes is to add another "afc" amplified frequency curve Wich helps said driver with amplification of output, by helping the driver load, you can run high order alignments with the shit mentioned but the overall performance is not as should be,
What app are you using for the measurement?
SSA Studio app with the device for it
Can someone help me find the bass knob for a neo 1.5k db amp mono class d.
Probably want to contact the manufacturer
Must be your amp cause mine definitely gets a lot louder Nd deeper with the knob
Mines does to
i have a rp1200 and the knob definitely makes my subs hit deeper
The cheaper pac inline rca bass knobs can lower the voltage going to your amp for instance say your head unit has 3 sets of rcas front rear and sub and all 3 have 5 volt pre outs the rcas with the bass knob tapped into the rcas even at full tilt on knob the amp might only be seeing 3.5 volts were ass a bass knob that comes with the amp plugs into amp will have no effect on rca voltage
All that difference in that 3/4 db down at 118 d. Is the amp now has to send a signal to the bass knob it will make zero difference at actual listening volumes but that is the reason you are seeing that tiny difference is db at such a low volume the amp just had to bypass going directly to outputs to being split off slightly changing the amount of signal it was sending not having it plugged in.
Makes sense thank you! Will do full tilt tests soon and see difference to.
@@jameslewis974 The 1.5v difference from 5v head unit inputs compared to the older 3.5v inputs is huge. Percieved listening, certified rated, and measured. As long as you use high quality OFC RCA's. Too many people never realize their systems true potential by cheaping out on the wiring or simple wiring mistakes that are easy to make. Like running DVC subs unbridged as SVC's. The best bass knob I ever had was through an Acoustic Crossover in line with an Audio Control EQL (the 1st year Audio Control showed up on the block). When I used pick up HCCA's from a back door with no outside handle. We called Orion will-call; I picked up my 2100 from there too. Oh the good ole days. The techs come a long, long way since then. These kids don't know how good they have not having to worry about rebuilt alternators, multiple batteries, isolators, relays, breakers, etc. The wiring is still a 100% must!
@@dj_illeagle thats
What i was saying g
Very satisfying video .. 👌🏾
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Can someone help me? I'm installing a 1000w rms amp and have a 600w rms sub, how do I set my amp up to not blow my sub? Before someone decides to be a smart ass, I'm super green to car sound. Thank you😁
You’ll be safe after some voltage drop and rise impedance change. Just set your amp crossovers right lpf, subsonic, and gain properly and your golden. Match your gain to head unit rca voltage.
Did you check at what voltage you got those test?
14.4-14.6
do some amps REQUIRE a bass knob to function? Or can all amps have the bass knob unconnected and work fine?
Bass knob is always optional for amps for user friendly
@@JacobViral2 Ok thanks bro
how would i use rca bass knob if my amp only has 1 set of rca input
Usually a bass knob rca has input and output so it runs through the bass knob first.
yea i watched a few more vids and realized that the knob go’s in between the amp and the head unit rcas, i originally thought that both rcas on the bass knob were input and i need 2 sets of rca, one from head unit to knob and one from amp to knob but i realize now how it goes
The bass knob steals power from the amplifier in order to operate itself hence the green light comes on the knob
I use knobs only on old school fosgate punch amps
All I can say is what are you doing read your owner's manual gain and bass knob are the same thing you set your settings in the freakin and the bass knob is so I don't have to go back in to your trunk and reset your gain You just messed up a lot of people
My amp keep.going to.protect mode then.later that day driving sub started working ?
Sounds like your clipping or overhauling amp and causing it to protect. Check if it’s clipping and hot.
@@JacobViral2 whats clipping
@@JacobViral2 worked good last night after I redid the ground
Jacob hi I wanted to let you know that the audio control bass knob is intended for adding bass to songs that are old recordings or enhancing the bass on these old songs f.y.i.🙂🙂🙂
I think you're talking about the audio control epicenter.
@@Widowmaker2828 can I hook up both?
@@evan.norwalkcalifornia562 By both, I assume you mean running an audio control Epicenter and your regular bass know that most amps have. If that is the case of course you can run both. I recommend it. Then you can add just the right amount of low bass to any song.
@@Widowmaker2828 I have a t-1500 fosgate amp with two alpine 12s...I have a epic center..what kind of bass knobs do you think I need
@@evan.norwalkcalifornia562 If the amp doesn't come with a bass knob you can buy any rca style bass knob. There are plenty available on Amazon or Down4Sound. I use the bass knob from Down4Sound that looks like a subwoofer. It works well but is a little pricy.
Your right about not removing remote cable while amp us on, I had an amp pop and burn up on me and I wasnt to happy afterwards.
How’d you fix it? I just did this lol
@@Vendetta0309 It keep flashing and going into protect mode. I'm not gonna lie, I had the same amp burn up like 3 times before i got it right. Once was my fault while the alle key fell from my grasp and fell and touched body of amp and power input and burned instantly. Other time I accidentally inserted the wrong phone jack into the sfb and popped and never came out of protection mode. 3rd time I had it connected and playing for about 10 mins and took a ride and before I could make it 100 ft from my house, my sfb just went into flames while playing Bret Michaels- Every rose has its thorn and I lost it after that. Finally sent that back to sundown and they sent me an brand new amp with an extra bass knob and I've have it on my shelf as of now
@@Vendetta0309 short answer, if it keeps going into protect mode send it back to sundown, they were great with customer service...
@@RomaVilla so once that pops and smokes up there’s no way fixing it?
@@Vendetta0309 it's dead, probably a mosfet inside that needs to be replaced. Unless you know how to fix amps internally send it back
Jacob I tryed this my system is louder. I have the skar RP 2000
Nice!
What I've learned is where u set ur amp with no bass knob it what it is, when u add bass knob shit changes just like u seen. But u have the 2nd bass knob. Maybe that was a factor. I just got my 1st bass knob a blew my amp speaker matched sub. Hard 2 understand all these different things in Audio.
I’m here because evidently me adjusting my knob to much fried my Brandnew amp literally less than a week 🤦🏾♂️so I asked UA-cam because my factory speakers are amazing and I don’t want that bass to play while I got a whole sub but oh well
Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t the remote basically just give you a way to adjust your bass boost without having to go back to wherever your amp is and adjust from there?
Correct
Jacob Viral2 Thanks man I appreciate it..
Jacob Viral2 Ok I’ve got an unrelated question, if you don’t mind ..I’ve got 2 JL Audio 1000/1v2’s pushing 2 12W7’s and a JL 500/5v2 pushing the new JL C7 component speakers..I’m getting the signal from an LC2i...would I be better off using something like an LC7i or one of those JL Audio converters/dsp? Everything sounds good but I know it should sound slot better...hopefully you can help cuz I’m stuck lol
Oh yeah all that is in a 2018 Impala with the stock Bose system., if that helps...
Just less loud;(
Remember on an amp i bought the bass knob never even worked was a boss i think
Well that's why
I bought one 1000 watts. And the bass knob works perfect
I heard a while back that unplugging gain remote makes it louder usually
Its not a gain knob..its an attenuator
trunkbangking yeah I keep seeing these comments and it’s confusing the hell out of me. The max of the knob is only going to be whatever your gain is set to. So how would it get louder. That would mean that your knob is raising your voltage past what the gain is set to which could put you into a clipped signal.
NOOOBS. LOL THE KNOB IS FOR THE COPS AND YOUR GRANDPARENTS FOES! LOL COMMON I THOUGHT YOU KNEW!
Jersey Piney I don’t why it would either. And I never tested for it. I guess I could test it today and see if I get more wattage and db’s.
I just tested and I was always a little louder on meter with the remote unplugged. 👍🏻
My crossover has a bass knob. It definitely helps the bass with it plugged in.
what crossover you have
I put a knob on my amp and It started going to protection mode ??
Maybe a defect or issue in the line, be careful.
People use them for the clip light... the rca knobs are better
Do a video at hih volume
Yeah lets do it. Thats why i unhooked mine
That’s so odd I wonder if it’s a loss of voltage.
what cat size ethernet cable are you using
Just the one that came with the amp
@@JacobViral2 mine didn’t come with one but thank you so much for the response i figured it out already
All it does give you an option to reduce the bass while diving and not your radio !
Yeah, that’s the point. It’s a bass knob
@@lxldxxxvid I’m just getting into subs, does a bass knob lower the bass your subs make? Like if I were driving and turned it down to the minimum would the bass be quiet?
all audio component factory testing are done wired. all audio components are wired in your vehicle so testing should be done wired for true test results. although stated this is just for fun and entertainment.
I've never used my bass knob. Got a box full of them lol
Do you have a hifonics 8 pin cable by chance ?
Got any for the RFpunch 801s/ 1001bd
Sell one to me...🇿🇦👌🏼
pls
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Ssa studio app with device dB Meter xplicitaudio.com/product-category/installation/tools/?ref=3229 req
This is something I most definitely didn't know about but taking it into consideration. I don't think running my Slam Panda bass knob would effect anything
Is the cable an RJ11 ?
Similar yes
What amp?
Soundqubed 2200
U should run a single soundqubed hdx3 18
Your 100% right I used to run 1 18 hdx3 on about 2200 rms watts of hifonics power now I got 2 18 hdx3 on 2 ohms bridged about 3600 rms watts and it hits!
Bass knob range is from 0 amp gain to max of whatever your amp gain is set to. Obviously your remote gain knob isn't linear with your amp gain...slightly uncalibrated
Bro I'm experience that.
My knobs only work until 50%
From there to a 100% there's no output effect
@@quintonnkoane9885 yes same here on my nvx amps
When first plugging in your knob for set up have your gains set at zero and have the knob turned to full. This way you wont get the pop
3 minutes in and i STILL have zero information
When you can hear 3/4 db difference