Yes we drove 28k miles in our Ioniq 5 EV last year, if I would have driven a typical 25mpg gas car I would have had to stop for gas 70+ times so that's like 7-10 hours getting gas per year. 95% of the time we charge at home so it's irrelevant if it takes 2-3 hours since I'm not actually waiting for it, when we go on trips it's usually 15-25 minutes or about as long as it takes to eat your Arbys and goto the bathroom. A few times we just need to stop and pick up 30-50 miles to make it to our destination and those are more like 8 minute charges.
I drove from Norway to Hungary in 32x2 Hours and back 1968x2 km. In 4 days. 17-21 May. The tripp took 30 Hours but, I needed to sleep 2,5 hours. We charged 7 tmes one way. We needed to stretch, eat, or rest on all of them. And, we also did some shopping. So, this was a better tripp than with a fossil car.
In the last 15k miles of charging my car, I have waited exactly 20 minutes charging. All the other charging time happened while I was sleeping or working. It takes about 10-20 seconds to plug in my car twice a week. When I had my gas car, I would stop at least once a week for about 5 minutes, not to mention I had to drive out of my way to get to a gas station since there wasn't one I passed on my commute.
Another consideration, when traveling in an ev, you don’t “fill up” like a gas car. You charge only enough miles to get to the next charger, leap frogging your trip.then you end up stopping about 10 or 15 minutes, every couple of hours. Just enough for walk arounds and potty breaks.
That was kind of what I was trying to get at with the bathroom stops part. For most people every two hours is good for bathroom breaks and most EVs over with range over about 250 will recoup most of not all of that during a 15 minute bathroom/leg stretch break.
Good points. It illustrates the realities for most people that have a EV in their garage. It also points out that having a place to charge should be a consideration before purchasing an EV. Also, great you pointed out the short range of your particular EV. Our Teslas are closer to 300 miles of range, but we stop after 2.3-3 hours to eat or use the bathroom and select places with chargers, as the video mentions. Charging session take about 15-20 minutes since the battery is warm and Tesla chargers are fast.
Thanks for the reply. Consider home charging is very important to buying an EV. The script for this video was originally part of another video I am working on about whether an EV is right for someone and while writing, I realized this was big enough for its own video. Teslas are definitely one of the better traveling EVs with good range and fast charging. I am looking forward to getting my Aptera that practically eliminates this complaint.
@@Wings_Wheels_and_Wires 50Kw charging would be hard to take. We have 250+ kW with the V4 Superchargers. And have 10 Supercharger location within 10 miles. The latest one has 24 V4 stall including some with long cables and the charging stand in the middle for cars with the charging port on the left or right, or front and back.
@@JBoy340a It kind of is! I love my i3 for so many reasons, but charging isn't one of them. When I do eventually replace it, that will absolutely be the reason and even then if a bigger battery and faster charging is available and makes financial sense, I might just do that.
The only downside to owning an EV is charging away from home. Over time, this will become less of an issue. I only charge at home, so it's not an issue for me. For long trips, I have a Honda Pilot. Which now requires transmission, transfer case and rear differential fluid changes at a cost of around $500. Something an EV will never require.
We have an EV used almost exclusively for commuting. On long trips, we take our other EV. :o) Our two internal-combustion vehicles have become garage queens and dust gatherers.
If you charge at home an EV is great. You charge overnight much like charging your cell phone, you save a lot of money and never hassle with gas stations. However, if forced to use SC, then you pay more and waste time as superchargers are rarely close.
I charge at night while I slee at a fraction the cost of gas. I bought a Tesla MYLR in Dec 2023 and will never go back. I also ordered a Cybertruck, still waiting on that one. EV > ICE
We did the same! Only a M3LR on New Year's Eve! We loved the Model 3 so much, we bought a MYLR 2 1/2 months later. His and hers. Our two gas-powered cars are gathering dust.
@@Wings_Wheels_and_Wires I get it! Can't wait to drive one of the EVs. Sold two ICE cars and kept two. I'm not sure why. Next purchase (I don't know how soon): an electric pickup.
Great points! I drive a Model 3 and have a Tesla Wall Connector in my garage. My charging time (plugging in and unplugging) is probably half what you noted (the plug has a button that opens the charge port and it closes automatically when it’s removed) but that 8 seconds a day is rather irrelevant, the point is it’s essentially no time. I drove from Michigan to North Carolina last year and my stops were more like 25 minutes on average. That was fine! In fact one was too fast, we ordered sushi and the car was done charging before we even got our food! Plus my wife has this thing called a “bladder” that requires bathroom breaks (who knew?!?) and there have been many times when the car was ready to go before she got back. Oh, and the money savings are very real! I saved about $1600 last year by charging instead of gassing up! I went on a camping trip to a state park and charged at the campsite, free charging! Yes, I paid for the site but I was paying for it anyway, I didn’t pay any extra, that’s the point. I’d like to see someone do that with a gas car!
Thanks for the comment.that 8 seconds adds up. Between that and the longer range, I'm betting you spend less than 20 minutes per year on your non road trip charging. Also, even with the stops being 25 minutes, I'm guessing your total charge time for the year is close to, or better than if you had to gas up for your daily commute. Great point about the camping. Free fuel for doing what you were going to do anyway. People think I'm just trying to push EVs when I tell them that if you like camping, EVs are the best way to go. You can fill for free if there are hook ups and if there aren't you can run your campsite from the big power wall under you car. Being smart about your charging makes a world of difference for owning an EV.
@@Wings_Wheels_and_Wires People greatly overestimate how often they will need to fast charge (with the caveat that they can otherwise charge at home.) We get about 250 miles of range in the summer and 200 or so on the coldest, windiest Michigan winter day. We have family about 100 miles away we visit for New Years (niece was a NYE baby.) So we drive there, use about 50% of our range at most, have some phantom drain for battery management, and generally have to stop once in the way home… for about 5 minutes. We only need enough power to get home with 5% or so buffer just in case because we can plug in as soon as we get home! We just need to get there! I haven’t fast charged in over 2 months. Haven’t had to. Work is 20 miles away, my mom’s house is like 80 miles away (Mother’s Day), so we’ve driven thousands of miles in those couple of months but never more than our range on any single trip. It cost me about $3800 to get my Wall Connector installed (plus $425 for the device.) A decent chunk of money, but I’m saving $1600 a year vs paying for gas… it will pay for itself in less than three years and it’s all gravy after that! My house was built in 1910 and we only had a 100 amp box so they had to install a 200 amp box, run a new main line, added new grounding rods, added a new meter and ran the line to my garage and installed the EVSE. It was an all-day job! So that’s almost a worst-case scenario of people are wondering what it costs to install an EVSE (aka level 2 charger.) A few thousand.
@@ConservatEVThis exaggeration is the basis for making this video. There is SO MUCH focus on trip charging time. I have literally had (in person) conversations with people who had that concern but they don't even make road trips. When I pointed that out I could their mind explode 🤯 in real time as they realized the uselessness of this concern.
@@ConservatEVAnd OUCH that was a pricey install. Though it is a good example so people know this is a consideration to include in the decision to buy an EV.
Love my model Y. It's a 2020 with 90k miles on it. Only maintenance is I'm on my 3rd set of tires. What can I say, I love to show off how crazy fast it is. It's just the base long range model. I charge at home mostly with a standard outlet trickle charge. It's adequate for what we need now. Eventually we will want something with more space. I love how fast it is and how technologically advanced it is. The OTA updates make you realize how these other car companies are totally screwing you over by delaying innovation, and charging you so much more for the same stuff. I can only recommend Tesla. It's just too fun to drive!
I've never been able to gas my car up in my garage cause I don't own my own fuel pump .only charged on the road once in two months of ownership. Lots of petroleum fueled propaganda out there .
There is...Hopefully this video helps set a small part of the record straight. ....wait a minute; you don't have a 60 gallon drum of highly flammable liquid in your house? 😱
There is another consideration for people that can't charge at home. Many places that people visit regularly during the week, such as grocery stores and the like, have fast chargers someplace in their parking lots. If this is the case, they can charge while shopping. Unless they have long commutes, this might be almost as convenient as charging at home, because they would never have to wait for the car to charge. Charging would be done by the time they got back from shopping. Not quite as good as home, but not bad. If such places don't exist where you live, I would still recommend an efficient gas car.
@davidswan482 Exactly! Not having home charging makes owning an EV more difficult, but far from impossible. And your usage really does matter too. My younger son has a 4 mile round trip commute. The charging you highlighted would easily work for him while it would not for my 59 mile commute.
I didn't include that because you then miss out on the great dealership coffee. 🤣 Seriously though, you are absolutely right. I know that saves a lot of time and money. If you look in my videos, one of my earliest ones was why I bought an EV and that was one of the top reasons. I have spent a lot of time and money fixing or replacing things my i3 doesn't even have
My ICE oil change was 2 to 3 times a year were I had to catch a bus to work, which cost more than my EV does. Losing the car for the day was nuts. 95% of my charging is while I sleep at 8 cents a kwh. Just ordered a new EV. 7 years of delight will continue.
@@BioniqBob Wow....All the way around. First 3 to 4 oil changes a year, you must put a lot of miles on your cars.With home charging you buy save a lot of time and money. Also, 8 cents per kw.....you certainly aren't in California...our best rate is 19 cents.
@@DerekDavis213good for u, I spent zero minutes at gas stations charging my EV at home all the time, saved a ton of money, and ur time is assuming u are not waiting a line at gas station, I got no line charging my EV at home, I will be the 1st and only one charging, don't argue it, ur statements are getting weaker, u like hybrid or gas, good for u, use it, don't try and argue it, the general trash talk maybe in ur favor but the true precise math is not
@@zer0legend109 Over *100* *million* Americans rent apartments, and cannot charge at home. A Tesla would be a poor choice for those people. ICE cars will be popular for decades to come.
The trade-offs, battery EVs vs gas-fueled vehicles, in terms of convenience come out remarkably similar with a slight advantage to BEVs, especially if you charge at home or at work.
Thanks, you are correct. I did not include them because they are pretty short and easily offset by the first time you have to fight with a charger that doesn't work. Great catch though 😁
I bought a new phone today. I can't charge it at home; I need to drive to a secondary location to charge it. It is loud, slow, and requires regular maintenance. Charging it is now one of my biggest monthly expenses. I'm glad I traded in my old phone for this new one.
THAT is what's known as a poor analogy. Poor analogies about EVs almost always come from someone who has never owned an EV. I'm a car guy, and my Mustang Shelby GT500 has become a garage queen. We recently sold the BMW 335i and the diesel-powered Jeep Grand Cherokee. They're obsolete.
@@denysarcuri1213I think their comment might have been sarcasm and more ant-ICE and not anti-EV....louder has never been an anti-EV complaint. As for the rest of you comment..... EXACTLY! So many people assume EV owners are all car illiterates who are too dumb to know better. I am a car guy FIRST and EVs give me more of what I like about cars and less of what I disliked.
@@denysarcuri1213 Fair enough. I kind of liked it because I initially had the same reaction and then caught the noise, lots of maintenance and lots of money. The thing I like is that it makes you think and can disarm some of the quick answer folks. But metaphors can be less direct and hard to relate..
Not on the first date …. Sorry had to Having said that. Nice video. Ultimately I generally feel like most people will adopt EVs because they get more ICE like. THEN they will see over time that the proper way to use it. That or give it back. But yeah. I’ve gotten stuck with gas cars (way back before they started making as much noise as they do now when you are low on gas). So I don’t mind pushing it a bit now adays with the amount of pumps around it makes it easy. But I was really carful before. And my wife is constantly worried about gas u less the tank is full. It’s just so inconvenient to run out. And even worse on an electric. And on top of that , how many of us wake up , even occasionally having forgotten to plug in your phone. And also I had bad experiences with battery powered lawn equipment (this was a long time ago. They are better now). So a lot of it is just a matter of time and getting people used to them. Also when more used EVs are around that will help too. Keep fighting the good fight tho
@wewk584 Thanks for the comment. I agree they are looking more like ICE cars, both because newer ICE cars are adopting more EV design language and because so many EVs are not ground up EVs, but electric versions of ICE cars. Check out my video on German EVs that talks about just that. I have forgotten to charge my EV a few times. Not world ending, but it was inconvenient enough to make me pissed at myself. You are absolutely right about the battery powered tools I bought set that used these tube batteries about 15 years ago. they sucked. I was always holding up work waiting for them to charge. I now have a three year old Ryobi set that I live by. batteries have gotten so much better. Last but not least, What brought in the "not on the first date" line?
@@Wings_Wheels_and_WiresIt's the proverbial "use case". I'm retired, with good disposable income. No daily responsibilities. A full house solar system and a utility provided 'time of use' meter to be used only for EV charging at crazy low off peak rates. I charge every night to replace what I used that day. Usually about 50 miles. Hence I wake up with a high battery % and about 450km of available range so zero range anxiety. My brother,,,,looked at my good experience and thought he would buy a Tesla. He lives in an apartment, and is a road warrior traveling salesman. I advised him to stay away (at this juncture) from EVs. He would certainly be frustrated. I'm the poster child for effective EV use while my brother is a poster child for a good long range gas car! 😁
@@sunrisejak2709 Exactly. EVs are awesome, but they are not for everyone (yet). The script for this video was originally part of the script for another and got big enough to need its own space. The other video (pending) is on whether an EV is a right choice and would have recommended against it in your brother's case
@warrencooksey5603 I know, right! can you believe they even judge entire groups of people based on what kind of car they drive 🙄 On a serious note, doucebaggery happens with any car type. I do have to agree as much as there are EV drivers who think they are morally superior because they think they are saving the planet.
The Camry Hybrid gets 630 miles of range, and just 5 minutes to refill the tank. Gas stations are everywhere. Compared to Tesla, Camry has better build quality, better interior, and full dashboard. And no charging hassles, ever .
I have some real problems with hybrids overall, but they do provide some good cross country range. The overall cost of ownership is certainly lower with an EV. As far as the build quality, can't argue with that at all. At the risk of sounding like someone I mentioned in a recent video, Toyota's are much better built....unless it the wheels on a bz4x. 😂
@@mowcowbell Thanks for the info. I have to agree that Toyota's are better built than Tesla's. This is the EV diconomy since day 1. "Startups" give you the performance but not build quality. Legacy manufacturers can give you quality but crap numbers.
But with an EV you can charge at home and goto work and back and most everywhere else with never needing to stop. And that 630 miles is running it to E under the ideal conditions ? Most people refill under 1/4 so closer to 550 miles. We drove our Ioniq 5 28k miles last year, if we took your Camry we would have needed to get gas around 51 times, even at 5 minutes thats over 4 hours buying gas, many times it's more than 5 minutes especially if you want discount gas at costco or a less expensive station that's not as convenient so more like 6-8 hours spent on gas getting every year. That's certainly more time than we spent waiting to fast charge. And you get 48 mpg ? That would have cost us around $2500 in gas. Plus an Ioniq 5 has maybe double the power and it much larger, a comparable gas car would be closer to 25-28mpg.
Yes we drove 28k miles in our Ioniq 5 EV last year, if I would have driven a typical 25mpg gas car I would have had to stop for gas 70+ times so that's like 7-10 hours getting gas per year. 95% of the time we charge at home so it's irrelevant if it takes 2-3 hours since I'm not actually waiting for it, when we go on trips it's usually 15-25 minutes or about as long as it takes to eat your Arbys and goto the bathroom. A few times we just need to stop and pick up 30-50 miles to make it to our destination and those are more like 8 minute charges.
I drove from Norway to Hungary in 32x2 Hours and back 1968x2 km. In 4 days. 17-21 May.
The tripp took 30 Hours but, I needed to sleep 2,5 hours. We charged 7 tmes one way. We needed to stretch, eat, or rest on all of them. And, we also did some shopping. So, this was a better tripp than with a fossil car.
Wow. Long trip and a LOT of stops. It sounds like you really used smart charging to your benefit to make charge stop more convenient. Great job!
In the last 15k miles of charging my car, I have waited exactly 20 minutes charging. All the other charging time happened while I was sleeping or working. It takes about 10-20 seconds to plug in my car twice a week. When I had my gas car, I would stop at least once a week for about 5 minutes, not to mention I had to drive out of my way to get to a gas station since there wasn't one I passed on my commute.
Yep...sounds like a common story. But yet we keep hearing about the hours we must be spending at chargers. 😁
Another consideration, when traveling in an ev, you don’t “fill up” like a gas car. You charge only enough miles to get to the next charger, leap frogging your trip.then you end up stopping about 10 or 15 minutes, every couple of hours. Just enough for walk arounds and potty breaks.
That was kind of what I was trying to get at with the bathroom stops part. For most people every two hours is good for bathroom breaks and most EVs over with range over about 250 will recoup most of not all of that during a 15 minute bathroom/leg stretch break.
Good points. It illustrates the realities for most people that have a EV in their garage. It also points out that having a place to charge should be a consideration before purchasing an EV. Also, great you pointed out the short range of your particular EV. Our Teslas are closer to 300 miles of range, but we stop after 2.3-3 hours to eat or use the bathroom and select places with chargers, as the video mentions. Charging session take about 15-20 minutes since the battery is warm and Tesla chargers are fast.
Thanks for the reply. Consider home charging is very important to buying an EV. The script for this video was originally part of another video I am working on about whether an EV is right for someone and while writing, I realized this was big enough for its own video. Teslas are definitely one of the better traveling EVs with good range and fast charging. I am looking forward to getting my Aptera that practically eliminates this complaint.
Oh and yeah, my i3 has a pretty short range. Couldn't deny it if I wanted to and it is one of my biggest problems with it. That and only 50Kw charging
@@Wings_Wheels_and_Wires 50Kw charging would be hard to take. We have 250+ kW with the V4 Superchargers. And have 10 Supercharger location within 10 miles. The latest one has 24 V4 stall including some with long cables and the charging stand in the middle for cars with the charging port on the left or right, or front and back.
@@JBoy340a It kind of is! I love my i3 for so many reasons, but charging isn't one of them. When I do eventually replace it, that will absolutely be the reason and even then if a bigger battery and faster charging is available and makes financial sense, I might just do that.
@@Wings_Wheels_and_Wires yes they do suck
The only downside to owning an EV is charging away from home. Over time, this will become less of an issue. I only charge at home, so it's not an issue for me. For long trips, I have a Honda Pilot. Which now requires transmission, transfer case and rear differential fluid changes at a cost of around $500. Something an EV will never require.
We have an EV used almost exclusively for commuting. On long trips, we take our other EV. :o) Our two internal-combustion vehicles have become garage queens and dust gatherers.
@@denysarcuri1213Same for us...every year we have to make a special trip with my wife's 3 series just to cycle the monitors for the smog check. 😂.
If you charge at home an EV is great. You charge overnight much like charging your cell phone, you save a lot of money and never hassle with gas stations. However, if forced to use SC, then you pay more and waste time as superchargers are rarely close.
Being able to charge at home (or at work) makes a world of difference.
I charge at night while I slee at a fraction the cost of gas. I bought a Tesla MYLR in Dec 2023 and will never go back. I also ordered a Cybertruck, still waiting on that one. EV > ICE
Thanks. If you are able to charge at home, EVs are so much easier than ICE cars.
We did the same! Only a M3LR on New Year's Eve! We loved the Model 3 so much, we bought a MYLR 2 1/2 months later. His and hers. Our two gas-powered cars are gathering dust.
@@denysarcuri1213 Nice!
@@denysarcuri1213Awesome....I am glad to see I am not the only one who hasn't set my paperweights free. I have 3 gas cars just gathering dust myself.
@@Wings_Wheels_and_Wires I get it! Can't wait to drive one of the EVs. Sold two ICE cars and kept two. I'm not sure why. Next purchase (I don't know how soon): an electric pickup.
Great points! I drive a Model 3 and have a Tesla Wall Connector in my garage. My charging time (plugging in and unplugging) is probably half what you noted (the plug has a button that opens the charge port and it closes automatically when it’s removed) but that 8 seconds a day is rather irrelevant, the point is it’s essentially no time.
I drove from Michigan to North Carolina last year and my stops were more like 25 minutes on average. That was fine! In fact one was too fast, we ordered sushi and the car was done charging before we even got our food! Plus my wife has this thing called a “bladder” that requires bathroom breaks (who knew?!?) and there have been many times when the car was ready to go before she got back.
Oh, and the money savings are very real! I saved about $1600 last year by charging instead of gassing up! I went on a camping trip to a state park and charged at the campsite, free charging! Yes, I paid for the site but I was paying for it anyway, I didn’t pay any extra, that’s the point. I’d like to see someone do that with a gas car!
Thanks for the comment.that 8 seconds adds up. Between that and the longer range, I'm betting you spend less than 20 minutes per year on your non road trip charging.
Also, even with the stops being 25 minutes, I'm guessing your total charge time for the year is close to, or better than if you had to gas up for your daily commute.
Great point about the camping. Free fuel for doing what you were going to do anyway. People think I'm just trying to push EVs when I tell them that if you like camping, EVs are the best way to go. You can fill for free if there are hook ups and if there aren't you can run your campsite from the big power wall under you car.
Being smart about your charging makes a world of difference for owning an EV.
@@Wings_Wheels_and_Wires People greatly overestimate how often they will need to fast charge (with the caveat that they can otherwise charge at home.) We get about 250 miles of range in the summer and 200 or so on the coldest, windiest Michigan winter day. We have family about 100 miles away we visit for New Years (niece was a NYE baby.) So we drive there, use about 50% of our range at most, have some phantom drain for battery management, and generally have to stop once in the way home… for about 5 minutes. We only need enough power to get home with 5% or so buffer just in case because we can plug in as soon as we get home! We just need to get there!
I haven’t fast charged in over 2 months. Haven’t had to. Work is 20 miles away, my mom’s house is like 80 miles away (Mother’s Day), so we’ve driven thousands of miles in those couple of
months but never more than our range on any single trip.
It cost me about $3800 to get my Wall Connector installed (plus $425 for the device.) A decent chunk of money, but I’m saving $1600 a year vs paying for gas… it will pay for itself in less than three years and it’s all gravy after that! My house was built in 1910 and we only had a 100 amp box so they had to install a 200 amp box, run a new main line, added new grounding rods, added a new meter and ran the line to my garage and installed the EVSE. It was an all-day job! So that’s almost a worst-case scenario of people are wondering what it costs to install an EVSE (aka level 2 charger.) A few thousand.
@@ConservatEVThis exaggeration is the basis for making this video. There is SO MUCH focus on trip charging time. I have literally had (in person) conversations with people who had that concern but they don't even make road trips. When I pointed that out I could their mind explode 🤯 in real time as they realized the uselessness of this concern.
@@ConservatEVAnd OUCH that was a pricey install. Though it is a good example so people know this is a consideration to include in the decision to buy an EV.
Love my model Y. It's a 2020 with 90k miles on it. Only maintenance is I'm on my 3rd set of tires. What can I say, I love to show off how crazy fast it is. It's just the base long range model. I charge at home mostly with a standard outlet trickle charge. It's adequate for what we need now. Eventually we will want something with more space. I love how fast it is and how technologically advanced it is. The OTA updates make you realize how these other car companies are totally screwing you over by delaying innovation, and charging you so much more for the same stuff. I can only recommend Tesla. It's just too fun to drive!
Agreed. And most of the complaints about EVs are from people who don't own one and don't know how great they are.
I've never been able to gas my car up in my garage cause I don't own my own fuel pump .only charged on the road once in two months of ownership. Lots of petroleum fueled propaganda out there .
There is...Hopefully this video helps set a small part of the record straight.
....wait a minute; you don't have a 60 gallon drum of highly flammable liquid in your house? 😱
There is another consideration for people that can't charge at home. Many places that people visit regularly during the week, such as grocery stores and the like, have fast chargers someplace in their parking lots. If this is the case, they can charge while shopping. Unless they have long commutes, this might be almost as convenient as charging at home, because they would never have to wait for the car to charge. Charging would be done by the time they got back from shopping. Not quite as good as home, but not bad. If such places don't exist where you live, I would still recommend an efficient gas car.
@davidswan482 Exactly! Not having home charging makes owning an EV more difficult, but far from impossible. And your usage really does matter too. My younger son has a 4 mile round trip commute. The charging you highlighted would easily work for him while it would not for my 59 mile commute.
don't forget the time saved with an ev. not having to change oil, and replace the many parts in a gas engine that will wear out.
I didn't include that because you then miss out on the great dealership coffee. 🤣
Seriously though, you are absolutely right. I know that saves a lot of time and money. If you look in my videos, one of my earliest ones was why I bought an EV and that was one of the top reasons. I have spent a lot of time and money fixing or replacing things my i3 doesn't even have
Except for that one part that wears out every time you charge it.
@@TuckLoomis I assume you mean the battery. Degradation is a real thing, but every study has resulted in better battery life than originally expected
My ICE oil change was 2 to 3 times a year were I had to catch a bus to work, which cost more than my EV does. Losing the car for the day was nuts. 95% of my charging is while I sleep at 8 cents a kwh. Just ordered a new EV. 7 years of delight will continue.
@@BioniqBob Wow....All the way around. First 3 to 4 oil changes a year, you must put a lot of miles on your cars.With home charging you buy save a lot of time and money. Also, 8 cents per kw.....you certainly aren't in California...our best rate is 19 cents.
😂😂 Picking on the Mach-E… I see… As much as I like the fast acceleration, I will still take the gas and/or hybrid cars for sure..
If I had a Mach E.....I would probably feel the same...Thank goodness I got an i3. 🤣🤣🤣
@rohansplaytimefamilyadvent5058 Liked that lemon in it, huh? 😁
@@Wings_Wheels_and_Wires😂😂
That's because you've never owned an EV. I have, now. In fact, we bought two of them in the last five months because we liked the first one so much.
@@denysarcuri1213 I'm glad you have had such a great experience. If that comment was aimed at Romansplaytime....he has a Mach E
Wow. I didn't know I spent so long putting gas in my car...Still not super sure about EV charging
@marlenhurtado2543 Thanks for the comment.i was surprised too.
2 hours per year at the gas station, if you have Camry Hybrid. That is nothing.
@@DerekDavis213good for u, I spent zero minutes at gas stations charging my EV at home all the time, saved a ton of money, and ur time is assuming u are not waiting a line at gas station, I got no line charging my EV at home, I will be the 1st and only one charging, don't argue it, ur statements are getting weaker, u like hybrid or gas, good for u, use it, don't try and argue it, the general trash talk maybe in ur favor but the true precise math is not
@@zer0legend109 Over *100* *million* Americans rent apartments, and cannot charge at home. A Tesla would be a poor choice for those people.
ICE cars will be popular for decades to come.
@@DerekDavis213It certainly is less than a full ICE car. How long would you have spent with an EV?
Its the batteries that are slow to charge. Electric motors are Great and they are in everything cause of that
The trade-offs, battery EVs vs gas-fueled vehicles, in terms of convenience come out remarkably similar with a slight advantage to BEVs, especially if you charge at home or at work.
You did forget to add gas refueling time for your LA trips and the 3 other trips.
Thanks, you are correct. I did not include them because they are pretty short and easily offset by the first time you have to fight with a charger that doesn't work. Great catch though 😁
I bought a new phone today.
I can't charge it at home; I need to drive to a secondary location to charge it.
It is loud, slow, and requires regular maintenance.
Charging it is now one of my biggest monthly expenses.
I'm glad I traded in my old phone for this new one.
@jeffgorchynski WOW! Does your new phone run on gas? 🤣
THAT is what's known as a poor analogy. Poor analogies about EVs almost always come from someone who has never owned an EV. I'm a car guy, and my Mustang Shelby GT500 has become a garage queen. We recently sold the BMW 335i and the diesel-powered Jeep Grand Cherokee. They're obsolete.
@@denysarcuri1213I think their comment might have been sarcasm and more ant-ICE and not anti-EV....louder has never been an anti-EV complaint.
As for the rest of you comment..... EXACTLY!
So many people assume EV owners are all car illiterates who are too dumb to know better. I am a car guy FIRST and EVs give me more of what I like about cars and less of what I disliked.
@@Wings_Wheels_and_Wires Thanks. Hmmm. Maybe, I guess. Still, the metaphor doesn't work for me. 😁
@@denysarcuri1213 Fair enough. I kind of liked it because I initially had the same reaction and then caught the noise, lots of maintenance and lots of money. The thing I like is that it makes you think and can disarm some of the quick answer folks. But metaphors can be less direct and hard to relate..
Not on the first date …. Sorry had to
Having said that. Nice video. Ultimately I generally feel like most people will adopt EVs because they get more ICE like. THEN they will see over time that the proper way to use it. That or give it back. But yeah. I’ve gotten stuck with gas cars (way back before they started making as much noise as they do now when you are low on gas). So I don’t mind pushing it a bit now adays with the amount of pumps around it makes it easy. But I was really carful before. And my wife is constantly worried about gas u less the tank is full. It’s just so inconvenient to run out. And even worse on an electric. And on top of that , how many of us wake up , even occasionally having forgotten to plug in your phone. And also I had bad experiences with battery powered lawn equipment (this was a long time ago. They are better now).
So a lot of it is just a matter of time and getting people used to them. Also when more used EVs are around that will help too.
Keep fighting the good fight tho
@wewk584 Thanks for the comment. I agree they are looking more like ICE cars, both because newer ICE cars are adopting more EV design language and because so many EVs are not ground up EVs, but electric versions of ICE cars. Check out my video on German EVs that talks about just that. I have forgotten to charge my EV a few times. Not world ending, but it was inconvenient enough to make me pissed at myself. You are absolutely right about the battery powered tools I bought set that used these tube batteries about 15 years ago. they sucked. I was always holding up work waiting for them to charge. I now have a three year old Ryobi set that I live by. batteries have gotten so much better. Last but not least, What brought in the "not on the first date" line?
Wow....Not on the first date 🤦♂️ I am slow sometimes.
If you can't charge from home don't buy an EV. If you can it's amazingly good.
Good point. You can still get one and make it work, but it is absolutely a serious consideration and not getting one may be the right answer.
@@Wings_Wheels_and_WiresIt's the proverbial "use case". I'm retired, with good disposable income. No daily responsibilities. A full house solar system and a utility provided 'time of use' meter to be used only for EV charging at crazy low off peak rates. I charge every night to replace what I used that day. Usually about 50 miles. Hence I wake up with a high battery % and about 450km of available range so zero range anxiety. My brother,,,,looked at my good experience and thought he would buy a Tesla. He lives in an apartment, and is a road warrior traveling salesman. I advised him to stay away (at this juncture) from EVs. He would certainly be frustrated. I'm the poster child for effective EV use while my brother is a poster child for a good long range gas car! 😁
@@sunrisejak2709 Exactly. EVs are awesome, but they are not for everyone (yet). The script for this video was originally part of the script for another and got big enough to need its own space. The other video (pending) is on whether an EV is a right choice and would have recommended against it in your brother's case
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Thank you ever so much.
EVs are for dooosh begs
@warrencooksey5603 I know, right! can you believe they even judge entire groups of people based on what kind of car they drive 🙄
On a serious note, doucebaggery happens with any car type. I do have to agree as much as there are EV drivers who think they are morally superior because they think they are saving the planet.
The Camry Hybrid gets 630 miles of range, and just 5 minutes to refill the tank. Gas stations are everywhere.
Compared to Tesla, Camry has better build quality, better interior, and full dashboard. And no charging hassles, ever .
I have some real problems with hybrids overall, but they do provide some good cross country range. The overall cost of ownership is certainly lower with an EV.
As far as the build quality, can't argue with that at all. At the risk of sounding like someone I mentioned in a recent video, Toyota's are much better built....unless it the wheels on a bz4x. 😂
Oh and yeah, I completely agree with the dashboard....and don't forget physical controls
@@Wings_Wheels_and_Wires Don't spend too much time on Derek. He posts these same comments on other EV youtube videos.
@@mowcowbell Thanks for the info. I have to agree that Toyota's are better built than Tesla's. This is the EV diconomy since day 1. "Startups" give you the performance but not build quality. Legacy manufacturers can give you quality but crap numbers.
But with an EV you can charge at home and goto work and back and most everywhere else with never needing to stop. And that 630 miles is running it to E under the ideal conditions ? Most people refill under 1/4 so closer to 550 miles. We drove our Ioniq 5 28k miles last year, if we took your Camry we would have needed to get gas around 51 times, even at 5 minutes thats over 4 hours buying gas, many times it's more than 5 minutes especially if you want discount gas at costco or a less expensive station that's not as convenient so more like 6-8 hours spent on gas getting every year. That's certainly more time than we spent waiting to fast charge.
And you get 48 mpg ? That would have cost us around $2500 in gas. Plus an Ioniq 5 has maybe double the power and it much larger, a comparable gas car would be closer to 25-28mpg.