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@WVW Their French materials are also very good. The Spanish stuff is good. The Korean materials are sparse, but fun. Haven't tried any Germanic languages, yet
@@Amaling It's a joke. This channel was called Days of French and Swedish and then changed to the acronym DFNS because the previous title was too long (presumably), but now you can take all sorts of other meanings out of the acronym. Like, well.. days of Farsi and Swahili.
Your honesty about your actual skills is a breath of fresh air among all those polyglots who claim to speak several languages but when they speak the ones I know, I can tell they either only know the basics or really just rehearsed the few sentences they spoke, but they still claim they speak them in a higher level than they actually do. For that reason you're the first polyglot I subscribed to.
I agree, Luca lamperiello is great though, a genuine polyglot. I thought he was American until he said he was Italian. He even says that English isn't his second language, genuinely incredible grasp of the language
I agree, Luca lamperiello is great though, a genuine polyglot. I thought he was American until he said he was Italian. He even says that English isn't his second language, genuinely incredible grasp of the language
I highly recommend learning the pretty languages that are less known like Old Norse / Dutch / Norwegian / Welsh / Breton / Gothic / Hungarian / Gallo / Icelandic / Danish / Faroese / Galician etc and the other pretty languages that are on my list of languages I want to learn and improve, and Old Norse / Dutch / Norwegian are just as gorgeous as English, so all should learn these gorgeous languages, and, I’ve been prioritizing them a lot, but I am actually learning over 15 languages at the same time (and I want to learn over 50 languages) because it saves many years and many decades, and learning multiple languages at the same time is the best way to go about learning new languages, especially if one wants to learn many languages like I do, because one’s hern needs to see many different things and needs time to absorb the new words from a certain language, so it’s way more efficient and effective to learn multiple languages at the same time and to constantly switch to learning a different language after learning new words in one language and become fluent in multiple languages in a few years, as opposed to only learning one languages at a time and waiting for years to become fluent in that one language, to start learning another, which takes a lot more years and is way less motivating than doing multiple languages at the same time!
It takes a lot of éxpòsure to the new language to become truly fluent in that language, and one must know at least 10.000 base words (over 15.000 words) really well and must be able to instantly process and use them to get to a native speaker level, and over 30.000 words to get to a writer level, so one must develop an automatic mode in the new language, which is only possible if one sees each word / phrase / sentence etc many times over a period of! Honestly, only in English am I writer level at the moment, so I cannot express things in any other languages the way I do in English, as I know a lot more words and phrases in English than I do in any other languages as I’ve always been éxpòsed to the English language and I use English every single day basically, and I know at least 100.000 words in English, but probably a lot more than that because I almost never see a new word in English, and one of my goals is, to get to a writer level in Dutch and in Old Norse and Norwegian and Icelandic and Gothic as fast as possible, because I want to know all the words that exist in these languages that I want to use the most, just like English, and I am native speaker level in Spanish as I learned it in childhood 100% passively, but since I started learning languages on my own, I also started learning new words in Spanish as well, including regional terms and rare descriptive verbs and technical terms etc that I hadn’t heard before, and I know Dutch, having gotten to an advanced level in Dutch after only focusing on it for 3 months, so I learned Dutch faster than any other languages, and am now trying to get to a native speaker level and then to a writer level in Dutch, and in Norwegian I am also close to an advanced level, while in German / Swedish and Portuguese / French / Italian I am intermediate level and know over 3.000 words in each, and I am close to intermediate level in Old Norse & Icelandic & Welsh as I’ve been learning a lot of new words over the past few months, so I will probably get to an intermediate level by the end of this year, and I am beginner level in Breton / Galician / Latin / Faroese / Danish / Hungarian / Slovene / Gothic, so I know a few hundred words in these and over 1.000 words in Latin, and in most other languages I am learning I am total beginner as I only know a few words and I haven’t even started properly learning them yet, and some of them aren’t easy to learn because there aren’t many resources and yt videos teaching them, so hopefully more ppl will start making videos teaching them in the near future, and hopefully all the pretty languages that are on Google translate yet are also added to Google translate in the near future, because Google translate also helps a lot, especially when checking individual words and their meanings and the articles for certain nouns etc, so it’s definitely a lot easier to learn a language if it’s on Google translate!
Honestly, with English, it’s kinda different, because English is super easy to use / learn, it’s the easiest language ever created, so it doesn’t matter if it’s the 2nd or the 3rd etc language one’s learnt, one is probably going to be able to express things better in English than one can in any other languages (including the first language one was made to learn) because English is so flexible and so expressive and so easy to use / read / type / learn / pronounce etc, a language cannot even get any easier than that - it’s naturally way easier to use in general, so if one learns English to a native speaker level and gets a lot of éxpòsure to it, like, constant éxpòsure, and uses it every day, one will naturally feel very comfortable using it, even more comfortable than one would feel using the first language one was made to learn, so I see on yt English learners that can express ideas better in English than they can in the first language they were made to learn all the time! English has been oversimplified to the maximum on purpose, so that it could easily become an universal language, plus English has more words and more slang and more idioms and more descriptive verbs and more descriptive terms in general etc than any other language, so one can express ideas in very detailed ways in English that aren’t possible in other languages, and many times, one cannot even translate certain words in other languages because the other languages don’t have specific terms that mean the exact same thing as the English word, and even the colors, like, there are words in English for every single shade, not just for the primary colors, and that’s just an example, but all other groups of words are like that as well, which makes it very easy to express ideas in English in very detailed ways - so, even if one knows all the words in another language and in the first language one was made to learn, one will never be able to express ideas in those languages as well as one can express them in English, due to the way each language was constructed and due to the number of words and descriptive terms / verbs each language has! I am learning many languages myself, and I am writer level in English, and even if I will get to a writer level in Old Norse and Dutch and Norwegian, I know I will never be able to express ideas in those languages as well as I can express them in English because I am aware of those differences in the ways each one of them has been constructed and also aware of the fact that English has a lot more descriptive terms and verbs and slang etc than any other languages, so I know that there are many things that I can only say in English, because there aren’t words in the other languages that mean the exact same thing - by the way, I am the only great being!
This was really a relief to watch. I've been learning German for the last 7 months and I keep having this urge to start on Spanish as well and I think that urge to start Spanish peaks every time I hit a bit of a wall with German. I want to learn both languages but I find it difficult to imagine learning a third language when my German isn't at a higher level. Sincerely appreciate your more realistic approach to language learning and the honesty you have regarding your progress in each different language. That's sorely lacking these days from many of the "polyglots" that are out there.
Thank you. Yeah, I think starting a new language is a bit like starting a new fad diet because it always feels like THIS is the one that will work, when in reality, the only one that works is whatever you stick to for about 3 to 4 years (languages vary a bit more obviously).
I am in similar situation but vice versa. Have been trying to learning Spanish for a year, sometimes being able to put 30min a day but most of the time just 10-15 minutes of learning unfortunately. Latest weeks I am slowly started a bit with German but now I, instead, gonna go full in on Spanish, more time spend and watch a tv show etc. Thanks to Days and Words for motivation and advice!
Living in Spain, I often experience the same problem you had when speaking Swedish. I've studied Spanish since 2008, and I've lived in Spain since 2016. Whenever I do an intercambio with a native Spanish speaker, they tell me how well I speak, but then I go to a bar or restaurant with my wife, and I'm lost. It's incredibly frustrating, but I guess I just have to keep at it.
The key is keep calmly taking in tons of comprehensible input. So, mainly read stuff you can understand at a decent level and look some of the words up and keep taking in material you find interesting. Add to that, watch stuff you can understand at least 70%. Main thing is calmly reading to keep increasing your vocabulary. If you keep increasing vocabulary, you'll have access to more words and then at some point it'll turn into the ability to understand and speak better. Keep juggling between reading, listening and even sometimes write stuff out. If you do all that, your skills will improve. Watch Luca Lampariello videos, he explains it all extremely well. Definitely one of the best out there.
Is it the local slang and abbreviations that throws you off? Because if they are telling you that you speak well, I could only imagine that this might be the cause.? Hope you get over that obstacle.
I swear, trying to learn a 3rd language is the best way to learn your target language, idk why. I've been learning Japanese for about 3 years, and I haven't really gotten that far, but taking a break from it and learning Portuguese has shown me that reading (one of the things I neglected learning Japanese) is an integral part of learning a language at a reasonable speed which has allowed me to have the capability to watch full episodes of a show in Portuguese and actually properly enjoy it after only 5 months of learning it.
@@burkhousehold8880 I think it's technically a graphic novel, but currently I'm going through a series called "o amuleto" by Kazu Kibuishi. The books are pretty short, and physical copies are pretty expensive, but as long as that's not an issue, I think it's worth the investment. If that's not your cup of tea, plenty of people recommend the Harry Potter series and I had my Portuguese teacher recommend the Narnia books, though they'll probably have the same price issues as o amuleto.
@@seekthuth2817that's very good, I'm Brazilian and now I'm putting more effort in English and I don't know why, but japanese books are such an attractive thing, so I'm learn English by japanese books lol. I'm not a good reader yet, so my approach was read whatever i wanted to. By the way I can recommend some Brazilian books to learn Portuguese.
needn’t is also used in Ireland. I got corrected for saying ‘aren’t’ by non natives too 😂 and got told off for using ‘reklama’ (advertisement) in German class at Uni because Germans don’t use this word. (Untrue).
It's true we don't use the word "reklama" (which is also the croatian word for advertisement) but "Reklame" although the word "Werbung" is more common.
Nicely conceived and presented - covers a lot of ground on what it means to "speak" a language. Very helpful in establishing goals and expectations for an adult beginner.
I can relate to your experience with French. I am learning French and when I didn't progress any more I started to dabble into Portuguese instead of working on French. And I too have the problem that I can understand well spoken French from laquage teachers, but I completely fail at understanding every day spoken French. Though, I feel that it slowly, very slowly, gets better, the more input I get. Oh, I am German, for the records.
Exactly where I am with Danish. I can converse with people, but when they go full speed Danish with each other I get lost quickly. I’m going to commit myself to immersing more, and hoping I get results like Lamont.
@@amerikanskdansker8771 native dane here, you're brave to try learning danish. I am myself learning japanese since one year. Japanese is like danish in many ways: pronunciation of words/kanji is inconsistent, you can put words/kanji together to add properties like in danish. Håber at et og en og upålidelige udtale ift. skreven. Also here are some tips, they are not official just some patterns I have noticed in the danish language(I am writing a book in the style of "grammar guide" by tae kim) hvilken/hvilken depends on if the noun this pronoun refers to is et/en hviken ugedag er det i dag ? (en ugedag, if you did not know, for combined words the last word takes et/en precedence uge+ *dag* ) "at,vil,må,skal" voluntary or request or an act. sets a verb to stamform Det er kedeligt *at fiske* the act/activity of fishing is boring vil du løbe væk med mig ? do you want to run away with me ? du løber væk med mig ? you are running away with me ?(interpretation could be a command or a surprised statement ) Many danes cannot do this correct most of the time, so it does not really matter that much. Good Luck, hope I was not annoying
@@Mathias-bz2kr Tusind tak for din forklaring! Jeg altid elsker at modtag hjælp med min dansk, især når det kommer fra en rigtig dansker! 😀🇩🇰 Jeg tror et dansk har en meget negativt røg for at blive det sværeste sprog i verden…men jeg prøver ikke at led den putter mig ned. Engelsk er også en mærkeligt sprog, men næsten enver dansker jeg kender taler engelsk godt nok.. Jeg vil lære dansk, selvom hvis det slå mig i hjel!! 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰
@@spellandshield Wenn es nur der Unterricht wäre, der vom Alltagsfranzösisch abweicht, aber bestimmte Formen findet man praktisch nur in der Schriftsprache. (Gibt es im Japanischen ähnlich, da gibt es für bestimmte Wörter noch besonders vornehme Alternativen, Customer Support verwendet die, als Ausländer hat man dann verloren)
@@spellandshield Genau. Französisch sind eigentlich drei Sprachen: Die formelle geschriebene Sprache, die formelle gesprochene Sprache und die alltägliche, informell gesprochene Sprache.
Me ha gustado mucho este vídeo, a mí también me cambió la forma de aprender idiomas cuando probé el método del input comprensible. La verdad es que me encanta y me sirve, es genial. La verdad es que no entiendo por qué la gente se obsesiona con "cuándo puedes decir que hablas una lengua", que cada uno diga y haga lo que quiera mientras no dañen ni engañen a nadie, esa es mi opinión. Pásalo muy bien en México, sería chevere si haces un vlog ;)
As a Norwegian I totally relate to how you said you could speak Norwegian but it would just be dressed up Swedish. That’s how I speak in Sweden, and even though it’s convincing, and Swedes often mistake me for a Swede from another town, I still feel fraudulent as it comes from the place of Norwegian in my brain. Even worse, because the languages are so close I don’t think I could ever get to a place where I actually “know” Swedish, I just kinda speak it. Jättebra video!
Thanks for this video, I have been learning Arabic for yeaaars and hit a wall a few years back. A very similar situation to what you described where I was still having lessons with teachers online but was not progressing when it came to listening and reading new content. I think the input method that you mentioned is the next step. All the best
12:46 I think different? laguange enthusiasts/polyglots/whatever call this the "honey moon phase" with a new language: A lot is new stuff, new fresh books, courses, apps , relatively low effort results in good gains, etc... Some people are serial language beginners, seeking and enjoying this phase of novelty.
I’m now 34, and I started learning fluent Greek when I was 26, and during the pandemic I started learning Portuguese, Spanish and Japanese. It goes to show that it’s never too late.
@@rustyshackleford1465Yep. When you’re dead that pretty much puts an end to the language journey. But before that it’s anything goes. I’m learning Danish and Spanish at 67 years old
I speak Spanish (natively) English and German, I am currently learning Italian and Danish. I think the first stage is so wired because I am so aware that my Italian and Danish are Spanish and German with an accent respectively, and I am so self aware of it, specially being Argentinian which means that I already use a lot of Italian words when speaking Spanish so it is quite strange and confusing
@@oliviervp5588 I'm a Native Spanish speaker so for Italian I did an intensive course to build the grammar up and now I focus on consuming as much as possible, because speaking Spanish Italian is already very inteligible. But 80% of my time goes to danish
@@oliviervp5588I wasn’t asked, but I’ll share my method. I am a native English speaker. I took 4 years of French, 3 years of Spanish, and 1 year of German in High School. That was 20 years ago with ZERO language study since. During Covid lockdowns, I started playing with Duolingo and enjoyed it. That lead to deciding to actually focus on language learning. I started watching a LOT of UA-cam videos on the subject. Downloaded a LOT of both free and paid language learning apps, and I have been pretty serious with it for 1 years now. I decided to focus on learning Spanish and Farsi. Spanish because I enjoy it, it is very useful, and I had a foundation already. Farsi was 100% new for me from scratch and MUCH harder. Both to learn and to find resources for. I'm learning Farsi because I have some relatives who speak it. They are also fluent in English, but I thought it would be nice to learn. I have spent about 1 hour per day studying these for over a year now and here's what I have learned and settled on. 1. Using One App: Using any one app isn't enough. You need more. If you are going to use only one app, make sure it is a VERY comprehensive app. I have tested and used 20+ language apps now. Only a few I would consider "comprehensive". Most are very basic or good as a supplement, but not good as a stand alone at all. 2. Using 2 or more apps. I think it is an EXCELLENT idea to use 2 different types of apps that complement each other well. It breaks up the learning experience and teaches you in more than one way. I found this VERY helpful. Then I thought if 2 is good, 3 is even better, and 4 even better than that. WRONG... using too many spreads you too thin. You don't really progress fast enough. Find 2 good apps (per language) and stick with those. You can play with others as a supplement, but find your 2 main ones and stick with those. 3. Time Breakdown: I spend a MINIMUM of 30 minutes on Spanish every day and 30 minutes on Farsi every day. The KEY is consistency over time. 30 minutes every day, times 7 days per week = 3.5 hours per week. That 3.5 hours per week is WAY more effective than 5 hours per week squeezed into one day. How I spend my 30 minutes? 15 minutes listening. 15 minutes vocab, grammar, review, etc. For Farsi I use: 1. Pimsleur = 15 min audio 2. Mondly = 15 min vocab + flash cards For Spanish: 1. Speakly = 15 min audio 2. Busuu = 15 min grammar, lessons, review, practice, etc. Speakly and Busuu don't offer Farsi. Neither goes Duolingo, Babbel, and most other apps. I recently got Rocket Languages for Spanish (as a gift) and I think that is an EXCELLENT program. Extremely well done and comprehensive. I will have to figure out how to incorporate that. It is MUCH better than Busuu or Speakly. So it may replace one of those. But, I have done my 15 minutes EVERY day for a year with those 4 apps as my bare minimum. I occasionally do more. I also do 10-15 minutes a day on Duolingo for Spanish, but just for fun. I don't consider that "learning" or even a good use of time. I just have a 500+ day streak I don't want to lose and it is fun competing with friends and family. I will also occasionally spend 30+ minutes per day in one or more of my 4 main apps. I have also bought some books to supplement. I occasionally listen to watch UA-cam videos in my target languages or teaching my target languages. ** So... my "system" is use one "Main" app and one "supplemental" app every day. Then supplement with UA-cam videos, podcasts, books, etc. Have a CORE bare minimum daily routine. Like brushing your teeth. > Main Apps Could Be: Pimsleur Rocket Languages Babbel Busuu Pimsleur and Rocket are both HEAVILY focused on audio based learning and are the BEST. I'd say Rocket is slightly better, but they only have 14 languages. Pimsleur has 51 languages available! I could honestly make an argument for either one being better, but they are both excellent. Pimsleur has monthly options that are cheaper, about $20/mo. Rocket ONLY has lifetime plans, but they are $180 for LIFE, so that is way better if you plan to study for more than 1 year. I expect to use either one for at least 3-5 years, so Rocket is a much better deal. Rocket says $450, but it is ALWAYS on sale for $180, or find a UA-cam channel with a promo code. Test Prep Insight always has good promo codes. Babbel and Busuu are VERY similar to each other. Both are good, but not as good as Rocket or Pimsleur. Babbel and Busuu are both very affordable. Only around $7/month. Both are FAR superior to something like Duolingo. Babbel does specials where you can get it for $90 for 2 years or $240 for lifetime. They have a Black Friday sale right now for $140 for LIFE. Busuu does sales too. I got it last year for $36/year for life. That was a great deal. Busuu isn't perfect, but it is excellent and has a GREAT community feature to practice with native speakers. Busuu also has a 100% free option that just plays an ad after every lesson. Babbel, Rocket, and Pimsleur do not have that option. Busuu is amazing to have that free offer. > Supplement Apps Could Be: Mondly Memrise Speakly (excellent) Beelinguapp (excellent) LingoPie (excellent) > Good Flash Card Apps: Anki Quizlet (I've heard, but haven't used) Clozemaster > Other Apps: *Mango Languages: This one seems like it could be good. I just found it ugly and boring, but might be good for learning. *Innovative Languages: These seem good, but very scattered. I spent some time with these, but found I liked my 4 apps better, but I occasionally watch their UA-cam videos. They are the "pod" series apps. SpanishPod101, PersianPod101, etc. *Duolingo: I am very thankful to Duolingo for opening my eyes to this language app world. I don't think it is great for learning a new language, but I think it can be good for fun practice as a supplement to other things. > Apps I Did Not Like: Rosetta Stone (shockingly bad) Drops (some like it, I didn't) I tried Tandem (a language exchange app to practice with native speakers). I think it is a great idea, but I didn't find any good people. Most were trying to use it as a dating app. I've heard great things about iTalki. I might try that next. I recently did a trial with LingoPie. That looks like a nice system. I wish they had Farsi. I hope that helps. Good luck. PS: This channel does excellent app reviews. So does Test Prep Insight. App reviews is all they do. Both for language learning apps and other academic apps.
Thank you for this video, Lamont. It arrived at exactly the time I needed it. Your dynamics with Swedish and French almost mirror my tug of war with German and Italian. This was the eye opener I needed.
I found this very relatable: I am a fellow Aussie, I also learned German & French at school, went to Germany for a month with school friends, also staying in German houses, & now just over 20 years later, am learning Spanish.
Yeah, I’ve kind of done the same thing. After I ran out of good materials to help advance my Cantonese I started working on Vietnamese (which I also had a fairly good reason to learn) that I also had a reason to learn. Then after many years of learning Vietnamese and Cantonese and feeling quite frustrated by Vietnamese (particularly the pronunciation), then I started focusing on Spanish because most of the people in the neighborhood were Spanish speakers. But now I’m back to mainly focusing on Vietnamese.
Any good resources youd recomme dating for Cantonese? I'm also in a similar boat wanting to learn canto and also viet, as those are my heritage laguages
Just want to say: I really like your approach to languages and to sharing the ups and downs and actual difficulties (not like so many "polyglot" UA-camrs who claim to speak 8 languages fluently in 4 weeks, lol). I lived in Germany for a year very many years ago, and my German is still at like B2, I think. I listen to German podcasts (Easy German - it is so good!) - I really want to improve it and I would love to learn some Farsi, Korean and French. We´ll see.
As a person who's only left the United States 2 months ago to go to Montreal, I know you've never spent a day in Australia because I haven't heard you say crikey a SINGLE time. There's no way you've spoken English before starting this UA-cam channel.
2:35 Actually, you speak English really well for an Austrian ... 🤣🤣🤣 More seriously, though, a lot of people o/s (especially in North America) think that all Australians talk like Crocodile Dundee. I have had plenty of Canadians tell me that I was "obviously" British, that Australians don't sound like me, etc. etc. I mean ... how would I know? I've only lived in Australia all my life! Only one nice lady I met in the Toronto Art Gallery identified me as an Aussie - and she had lived in Sydney for a few years. I took French and Latin at High School. Towards the end of my schooling, my uncle fell ill and I was visiting him in hospital. He pointed me to the bed next to him. "That poor bugger only speaks French. He's from New Caledonia, and has no visitors. Why don't you talk to him?" So I tried. I barely got past "Bonjour !" My uncle was disgusted. "Your parents spend all their money sending you to that fancy school, and you can't even talk to the guy after four years of French!" We had read Molière, Camus, Saint-Exupéry ... but we only learned to read. I think the big difference now is UA-cam and other platforms. "Comprehensible input" now includes _spoken_ French, and that is quite different to only getting written input. Both are necessary - and then some practice at speaking, mainly to overcome nervousness but also to form "muscle memory" for the formation of certain sounds not present in one's own language.
We kinda had the same experience with German. I had taken it at school for like 2 terms and went to Germany with my family for a one-week holiday and I tried to speak German on every occasion. Not too successful but did get by to some extent. Now that over 30 years have passed and I cannot speak at all, when I started studying Dutch, I realized how much German I remember. More than I have thought. Nice shoutout to the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air for the sectional naming BTW.
Bienvenido a México mi amigo. Que tú y tu hijo se la pasen muy chido aquí y que coman comida muy sabrosa. Disfruten mucho de su estancia. 🇲🇽🎉 Welcome to Mexico my friend. I hope you and your son have a great time here and eat delicious food. Enjoy your stay very much. 🇲🇽🎉
I love your videos - very encouraging. I agree that of course “needn’t” is a word. Well, a contraction of two words, but you know that! I use it regularly. You have excellent English and are very articulate ❤
cool story bro I had english in school from grade 6, age 11 or so, and at age 20 I knew exactly nothing.. then the internet came to my home and I could watch South Park and sci fi movies in english every day! boy, this changed things then at age 30 I decided to try spanish, and wouldn ´t you know - there´s a spanish dub version of South Park! so I did that later I started with french, yup --- South Park a la Francaise and finally I started doing dutch --- and that´s quite tricky, since they don´t dub anything, had to find other materials in true internet polyglot fassion I have textbooks for about 4 other languages and I wonder if I´ll ever use them :) keep up the good work!
Um, you mean UA-cam Premium? You know that has nothing to do with sponsored videos, right? That's like paying for a car and then complaining that you still have to buy a bus ticket.
I had a lot of Chinese people tell me how great my Mandarin was. I figured it was because I had really great pronunciation in a very "standard" accent. Once my accent in Mandarin started shifting towards how people speak in the part of China where I lived I stopped getting so many compliments about it.
love that the music bit for 'is counting German fair?' was auto transcribed as thank you 😀 p.s. the whole bit about German was hilarious \ an interesting insight, so 'thank you' indeed
I have started my language learning journey this year. I already knew French and some Spanish, but I’ve gotten serious and added three more languages, as well as about seven others that are on my list of future languages to learn. I hope to be a big-time polyglot.
Wusste gar nicht, dass du Deutsch sprichst. Dann sag ich dir mal auf Deutsch, dass mir deine Videos mittlerweile richtig gut gefallen. Haben sie natürlich irgendwie schon immer, weil ich dich ja schon ein paar Jahre abonniert habe :P Aber man merkt richtig, wie du die Qualität deiner Videos steigerst. Und deine Witze sind on-point ;-)
I'm an Aussie living in Latin America and I love it. Latinos are very patient with non-native Spanish speakers. Make some friends and have a great time!
I speak English exactly as you do. I'm from NSW, I think we all kind of speak like you. I needn't support my claim, as most other English-speakers around world don't understand us anyway.
Great video again Lamont, always inspiring! Your description of being distracted by French to the detriment of your Swedish describes how I still feel with my Danish...I think I just need to immerse more as you did. Have fun in Mexico! I was just in Mazatlán, I'll be very interested to hear how your language exploits go down there.
Love the blooper! I believe your reference was from one of the Minions movies. Alas, I don't remember which. No, no, no, pa poy! Great video, btw. Love the emphasis on input. I'll check out Lingopoy, er, Lingopie.
Brother, I've been watching your videos and want to give you some feedback. You are doing a good job with being humble and admitting the error of your ways. You have very good critical thinking skills and you are good at analyzing concepts and breaking open things in a level headed way. Very good👍. My guess is you probably have a respectable IQ. Lastly, your humor and wit is excellent, so you know how to make videos entertaining. All a good combo. I wish you luck with your career ambitions.
LingoPie looks amazing and I would definitely happily pay for it, but sadly they don't have the language that I want to learn. I imagine, though, it's time consuming for them to have even the languages they do have. Hopefully, they will be able to add more eventually. Thanks for letting us know though, because maybe I will try out one of their existing languages = I would not have known about them without your reviews.
Currently using French to procrastinate on learning Japanese. It's just much easier to find comprehensible input in a language that's relatively closer to my native language of German. Not that they are really related, but being next to each other has caused some spill over in both directions. Being the stereotypical German with a C2 level of English helps as well. Though I would still consider myself a beginner in both languages (Japanese grammar is killing me, so are the homonyms, and French homophones are also "fun") My motivation would probably be media (games, comics, movies) more than the actual countries.
The inout part is really true, but the problem most people have is that they can understand perfectly the thigns said and the context and even give the answers, opinions, anyways you understand, but you are not fluently speaking it, specially if the language has a hard pronunciation according to the language you are learning from, so I do advice to practice speaking to develop a good level, but as all, the input is the first part, and later you can practice the speaking so you feel more confident. I actually learnt english bu myself, ostly watching tv, youtube videos, playing games and reading, and what help me a lot was a teacher, he make us speak in front of the class for 5 minutes of you literally fail, only 3 people passed an we talked for like two minutes, the thing is that that gave us insight of what really takes to learn a language and not only filling th books or taking exams and quizes and getting perfect grades, but understanding and speaking it was the important part. Other thing that you mentioned is the "Thinking" part, most people I know listen to the question/words and translated to their native language, respond in that language, and then translate in their heads again and then respond, and that takes times and sometimes you freeze and your mind goes blank, so what I did was to jsut talk or listen to my friends and family speak, and tried to translated in my mind in english, the things they said, the quetions, the answers, sometimes the things i wrote or read in the street or books, the thing i that I did this in my mind constanly and most times I lacked words and couldn't do it, so i remenber the word that I didn't know in english and looked for it, how it was used and all and that helped me to get a vocabulary of word I would really potentially use is a way I, my family or friend, or even regular people from other countries would posibly speak and with the input i knew if that traduction I made made sense in context or not, and well at first the knowledge acumulated fast and I got better at it, but after the pace slowed and took some years to reach almost native level, and still my weakness is speaking because I didn't have anyone to speak to, the oportunity to travel but i never really tried to get better at it, so.....
Thank you for saying the name! I didn't know of was LingoPee or LingoPie lol I recently switched from Brazilian Portuguese to European Portuguese as I prepare to move to Portugal. I can't seem to change the "main language" on my profile to Euro Portuguese even though there is content for it.
I'm so sorry about your dad being a drug kingpin but I believe you calling him a doctor is justified since people call their drugs their medicine. Overall, a very unfortunate circumstance that your school did not teach you the proper wording for your father's job. I appreciate your story sir and it resonates very close to me.
I started following you in 2019 and since then I always felt like this channel is just perfect for me. I truly enjoy your approach to every aspect you have highlighted in this channel. My story started with English in the second grade (haven't stopped learning it since then), then in 5th grade I started studying German, after a year in the US as an exchange student I forgot most of it. I entered university majoring in Turkish language and literature 4 years ago. I can claim that I speak 3 languages: Ukrainian, English and Turkish I also used to speak ruzzian, but once those assholes invaded my country for the second time I stopped speaking it and I hope that I lose an ability to speak it soon. Lemont, I hope that you decide not to continue learning ruzzian. Learning language is always about learning culture and I don't think you need to be exposed to a highly imperialistic culture that ruzzianz have Thank you very much for your amazing videos! They inspire me a lot
Great video! I appreciate the honest approach to language learning. J'adore la langue française, mais malheureusement j'ai peu d'occasions de le parler ici en Espagne où j'habite. Aprovecha el viaje a México. Es una gran oportunidad. Hablar idiomas debe de ser muy útil para un mafioso. No sé si sigues en el negocio familiar, pero tu padre debe estar orgulloso de ti. Jestem o ciebie zazdroszny. Mam chęć pojechać do Polski. Uczę się polskiego od półtora roku i nigdy tam nie byłem. ２年後に日本に行きたいです。日本語は私の5番目の言語です。頑張って！
Re: the compliments on your Swedish competency tl:dr: read last sentence. :-) I was always so nervous about performance and am such a perfectionist, I never thought I was all that good with French, even after 4 years of high school ( = 4 days of living in France) plus a quarter of college French, which was mostly the repeat material that I still hadn't absorbed. o.O So then I applied for French 4X/5X, an intensive immersion quarter my university offered every year, in which 20 students and one of the French teachers lived with families in Nîmes, France, attending class as usual, but in an adult education center in the city center. Side note: I arrived a week late due to the stress of prepping and the rest of life leading me to think I'd come down sick. Oh, well. My first moments meeting my host family for an 11-week stay (which I made 16) went like this:.they asked questions, I answered them. That and my brothers agog that they were really hosting a Californian student, which they'd not believed was ever going to happen, which my flash illness only fueled. I didn't know all the words I wanted, but it was all in French. It surprised me, too; especially after completely failing at it my first few hours of my Paris layover-but that's Paris-ahem. After an hour or so to get settled into my new bedroom, two classmates from my same neighborhood came over, with one or two of their host family members as well. I was exhausted with jet lag made worse by staying up the whole night walking around in Paris, and it being Easter, I had to stand up most of the 8-hour trip down to Nîmes. So my classmates bent the rules and spoke mostly English while the true francophones conversed. One of the other host brothers, though, had been learning English and planned to exchange into Ohio the following school year. He didn't understand a dang thing I said. I was tired, so speaking the usual sloppy way we converse among friends back in California, meaning even less like written English than the damned language already suffers. My classmate he hosted said, "Oh, just slow down and speak with a French accent." I laughed, but it worked. By enunciating and mimicking the same pronunciation problems my teacher made when speaking English, he understood. So the point is that he had this exact same experience with me. It was illuminating. Later, I would have the same experience myself many times, especially the first couple of weeks, in phone calls, and, to this day, most of the time watching television. NOW I know that TV French, especially from newscasters, was spoken by persons deliberately trying to move their lips as little as possible, except when busy emphasizing their mastery of rounded front vowels. Then there was week 3 of the quarter, in which we classmates started waking up with nasty headaches. All of us. Our instructor recognized the phenomenon and asked us if we were dreaming entirely in French, yet. Indeed. So basically we were transitioning into fully thinking and conversing in French, but the lag of a few days between unconscious and conscious performance exhausted our poor little brains. Never saw that coming. It was exhilarating to fully cross the threshold, though. I seldom had to translate in my head. Together outside the classroom, we classmates spoke Franglais that steadily progressed over the quarter into almost exclusively French. Our goal was to avoid English in order to better our immersion and pronunciation, but the Franglais permitted us to converse fluidly and simply correct one another with the words one person had learned sooner. At the same time, the torment of trying to ask how to say this or that entirely in French questions relaxed into the same kinds of questions French kids asked adults, no more stress-usually. LOL, there are those moments, omg. Sometimes English cognates and near-homophones really get in the way. My host mom and I went round and round one afternoon trying to figure out what the heck the other was saying when she thought my 'culture' questions were nonsensical 'couture' questions, and we both got blocked after a minute of confusion so that we couldn't figure out what was wrong. LOL Guess you had to be there. I still stress like mad, and I'll never be truly "fluent" as far as the French are concerned, despite how many compliments they throw my way. But the French are more critical about their beloved language and intellectual in its use, more than speakers of most languages. Best think of fluency on a scale, say, of zero to five, zero knowing no words, like I discovered about Finnish when I passed through Helsinki, to five being the command of an educated native speaker of a language. I'm a brain into languages and decently educated, so my English is a five, while no few native speakers are more of a four, occasionally a three. My French back in the early 1990s I would place a good three, but only because I'd had a lot of formal French education by the time I graduated. I've studied Italian, Spanish, and a little German, plus dabbled in more languages than I can count (language studies major), and I think I reached a decent the first two, able to carry on a conversation with a stranger. I SHOULD be a four in Spanish, BUT I HAD to rebel; quel teenager: my step-dad's first language was Spanish, albeit neither of his parents spoke a California dialect, and fully half my region's population speaks Spanish natively or near-natively. Oh, German. Lesson learned. Do NOT schedule a class for a new foreign language immediately followed by a short walk to a class for a familiar foreign language. I walked from German I to advanced courses taught in French. It was terrible. I only retained enough not to fail the German class. X-D So that's the long version of "I agree," and, "It's best to discuss competency on a scale, "'luency' being more competent than merely speaking or reading." My two cents worth. :)
Ich wusste gar nicht das du deutsch sprichst! But honestly, if you can communicate you speak the language, maybe not well but that is all in all a fairly minor issue IMHO.
I experience the same thing. I can have a conversation in Portuguese but when I hear natives talk or I'm spoken to like a native I'm usually pretty lost haha
I don't know why here there's a lot of Portuguese learners, I'm also a Portuguese student but since the very first day of my life . I don't know your level, but I can help with some material to do input, If you want it just tell me what do you like
"needn't" ...is too a word. This comes from an American who can recognize a contraction when he sees it... I've studied eight languages. I still only speak one, but I understand the thought processes behind all of them.
Do you think books (in that language) are absolutely necessary for what you mentioned in 14:21 ? Would watching videos/vlogs in that language with subtitles on suffice?
Somewhere around 4,000 hours of immersion in Spanish, the hard part is after about 800 you really only improve marginally if at all. I know you do, but on a daily basis it's not enough to measure. It's super frustrating and IMO that's why most people jump to another language because in many ways grinding to an advanced level is a poor return on investment, especially if you'll never live in a country that speaks the language. Enjoy Mexico!
i hope other (non-north American - including Canadians?-) native English speakers have given this a thumbs-up solely for the correct abbreviation of 'mathematics'. Hope you enjoy ( ed...just sat the end ..I'm a bit late )Mexico - I miss it ..been too long...
I like the fact that you edited the comment so as to unkempt properly but didn't change the message to be correct... since, as you learned, unkempt ends in pt...
As a German speaking Swedish and four other languages, i regularly something in one language and try to process it in another language - but that only happens with German and Swedish
¡Hola!¡Espero que estés muy bien! Gracias por el video, Lamont. ¿Puedo saber cuál es la música que suena de fondo en la sección patrocinada por Liñgö Pie.?¿Acaso es música llanera (del norte de sudamérica)?
Mannen. Himla snygg flagga du har…tror jag sett den förr nånstans. Du är väl med i Föreningen Australiens Svenska Flaggan Sällskapets Vänner-FASFSV? 😂 (skulle fan inte förvåna ett dugg om det finns ett sådant) Ha det fett kul i Mexiko!
Nice video, I have had a similar experience with Spanish to your Swedish and this video has helped me plan out what to do next. I’m also learning German on the side, but I’m mainly focusing on Spanish, and eventually plan to learn another language once I get good at German and Spanish. Also, why did you choose to learn Swedish out of the Nordic languages? I’m not judging, I’m just curious to know why you chose it.
Hello to anyone willing to read this! I’m new to the language learning sphere and trying to take up Spanish first, I understand input as a concept however practically applying it seems a bit odd to me. When I’m reading or watching my shows in my target language with English subtitles does it matter that I don’t get it or can’t even isolate words unless it one’s that I’m very confident on? Especially with reading, what good does it do? Is it just for formatting and being able to isolate words in spoken (language)? At what point am I worried about getting deep into translation?
Hey, love the content (cheers 🥂). Thanks for the funny and interesting posts! Im working on Spanish and was wondering if you have recommendations for other content creators like you that talk about language learning, but where the main language of the channel is Spanish? I need more Spanish input and i love this topic. Thanks!
Mr. Salas! (Mexico) Hmm, there is this woman who talks all about Spanish all the time, and I think she is from Spain and her videos are literally just ABOUT Spanish, not for learners, but for people interested in how the language got to be that way... but I can only find her through my other account so I'll come back to you.
@@daysandwords hey, thanks a lot for the suggestions! My Salas looks interesting but I'll have to work up to that speed of talking. Linguriosa is perfect! She talks at a good pace, is funny, entertaining, etc. Awesome, cheers man
@@daysandwords for those who have the same question, I found a channel that's fantastic and the guys speaks very clear Spanish: Martin adquiere un idioma. Highly recommend!
Something unexpected I learned with this video: Apparently people think Australians don't soeak English 😅 By the way, I'm from Chile and people also doubt that I speak Spanish because of my accent (it's my MOTHER TONGUE!!)
Needn't - I have more than twice as many year as you, in the southern US ;-) and I know we use "Needn't" in speaking... However, I don't think I'd write it that way?? I also wouldn't write 'gonna', 'dunno', or 'Lesgo" [as in lesgo - Let's go]... So, I dunno how that fits in your discussion. ;-). [I am not a polyglot.]
Good luck getting out of Mexico - make sure that you have some cash on-hand "just in case". So, while this didn't happen to me, it's happened to two of my friends, although it was in the early/mid 2000's (not dollars, years).
I see you have some thick books on German, French and Collins. Do you think It'd be possible for someone to learn Collins in 3 months as their first foreign language using Duolingo and studying no grammar at all?
Haha, I was actually kind of annoyed by that decision by Collins. Because they are legit matching dictionaries but just for no reason the Spanish one says Collins rather than Spanish.
@@daysandwords I know the struggle. I own a collection of Dostoevsky's works, all made by the same publisher and all following the same graphical design pattern. Until the last volume. They actually had the gall to change the font and color of the title on the spine on the last one they published.
Yeah. Another one I hate is those box sets of books, e.g. I have the Song of Ice and Fire ones (although it was like $5 from an op-shop so I can't complain) - but in theory, every book fits in there... but that's when they are brand new and vacuum sealed into the damn thing. Once you have so much as read the dedication on one book, the spine increases by about 1mm, and about 7mm by the time the book has any miles on the clock. So then if you plan on reading all 7 books, they all look the same, but suddenly you're 49mm over the capacity of the box they came in. EDIT: Although, it's always kind of moot on book series that aren't finished anyway. I read that Martin is saying that The Winds of Winter will end up being at least 50% longer than the longest book thus far, and he's worried that the publishers will want to make it two titles. (I'm not sure why they couldn't just make it 1 title in three volumes...)
3.57 'I jazzed'. Australians don't typically jazz, ergo you must not be a native speaker of English, haha only jesting with you! Actually, I grew up in Northern Ireland and when I moved to England the English frequently thought I was from Canada, The Netherlands or Scandinavia. It was funny to see their shock when they learnt that I was a native English speaker Edit - I was not from Scandinavian
I would say no, not really but I guess technically, yes. Someone else proposed that too, and it's miles better than the dozens of people who have unironically written "unkempt". Like they wrote exactly that, spelled correctly.
Thanks for watching! Get comprehensible input in your language and help support the channel by checking out LingoPie:
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Which language did Lingopie helped you the most?
@@nsevvSpanish. I've really only learned Spanish (of the ones thet offer).
@WVW Their French materials are also very good. The Spanish stuff is good. The Korean materials are sparse, but fun. Haven't tried any Germanic languages, yet
Could you tell me what your father really did for a living?
@@jsoulas He already did, 'drug king-pin' 👍
"Days of Farsi and Swahili" is one of the best language learning channels on UA-cam!
Days of Klingon and Bogan is eating tacos right now.
Languages Down Under has a nice ring to it.
I was not able to find any channel under this name
@@Amaling It's a joke. This channel was called Days of French and Swedish and then changed to the acronym DFNS because the previous title was too long (presumably), but now you can take all sorts of other meanings out of the acronym. Like, well.. days of Farsi and Swahili.
Days of Indonesian and Hindi.
That one might be....
Me.
Your honesty about your actual skills is a breath of fresh air among all those polyglots who claim to speak several languages but when they speak the ones I know, I can tell they either only know the basics or really just rehearsed the few sentences they spoke, but they still claim they speak them in a higher level than they actually do. For that reason you're the first polyglot I subscribed to.
I agree, Luca lamperiello is great though, a genuine polyglot. I thought he was American until he said he was Italian. He even says that English isn't his second language, genuinely incredible grasp of the language
I agree, Luca lamperiello is great though, a genuine polyglot. I thought he was American until he said he was Italian. He even says that English isn't his second language, genuinely incredible grasp of the language
I highly recommend learning the pretty languages that are less known like Old Norse / Dutch / Norwegian / Welsh / Breton / Gothic / Hungarian / Gallo / Icelandic / Danish / Faroese / Galician etc and the other pretty languages that are on my list of languages I want to learn and improve, and Old Norse / Dutch / Norwegian are just as gorgeous as English, so all should learn these gorgeous languages, and, I’ve been prioritizing them a lot, but I am actually learning over 15 languages at the same time (and I want to learn over 50 languages) because it saves many years and many decades, and learning multiple languages at the same time is the best way to go about learning new languages, especially if one wants to learn many languages like I do, because one’s hern needs to see many different things and needs time to absorb the new words from a certain language, so it’s way more efficient and effective to learn multiple languages at the same time and to constantly switch to learning a different language after learning new words in one language and become fluent in multiple languages in a few years, as opposed to only learning one languages at a time and waiting for years to become fluent in that one language, to start learning another, which takes a lot more years and is way less motivating than doing multiple languages at the same time!
It takes a lot of éxpòsure to the new language to become truly fluent in that language, and one must know at least 10.000 base words (over 15.000 words) really well and must be able to instantly process and use them to get to a native speaker level, and over 30.000 words to get to a writer level, so one must develop an automatic mode in the new language, which is only possible if one sees each word / phrase / sentence etc many times over a period of! Honestly, only in English am I writer level at the moment, so I cannot express things in any other languages the way I do in English, as I know a lot more words and phrases in English than I do in any other languages as I’ve always been éxpòsed to the English language and I use English every single day basically, and I know at least 100.000 words in English, but probably a lot more than that because I almost never see a new word in English, and one of my goals is, to get to a writer level in Dutch and in Old Norse and Norwegian and Icelandic and Gothic as fast as possible, because I want to know all the words that exist in these languages that I want to use the most, just like English, and I am native speaker level in Spanish as I learned it in childhood 100% passively, but since I started learning languages on my own, I also started learning new words in Spanish as well, including regional terms and rare descriptive verbs and technical terms etc that I hadn’t heard before, and I know Dutch, having gotten to an advanced level in Dutch after only focusing on it for 3 months, so I learned Dutch faster than any other languages, and am now trying to get to a native speaker level and then to a writer level in Dutch, and in Norwegian I am also close to an advanced level, while in German / Swedish and Portuguese / French / Italian I am intermediate level and know over 3.000 words in each, and I am close to intermediate level in Old Norse & Icelandic & Welsh as I’ve been learning a lot of new words over the past few months, so I will probably get to an intermediate level by the end of this year, and I am beginner level in Breton / Galician / Latin / Faroese / Danish / Hungarian / Slovene / Gothic, so I know a few hundred words in these and over 1.000 words in Latin, and in most other languages I am learning I am total beginner as I only know a few words and I haven’t even started properly learning them yet, and some of them aren’t easy to learn because there aren’t many resources and yt videos teaching them, so hopefully more ppl will start making videos teaching them in the near future, and hopefully all the pretty languages that are on Google translate yet are also added to Google translate in the near future, because Google translate also helps a lot, especially when checking individual words and their meanings and the articles for certain nouns etc, so it’s definitely a lot easier to learn a language if it’s on Google translate!
Honestly, with English, it’s kinda different, because English is super easy to use / learn, it’s the easiest language ever created, so it doesn’t matter if it’s the 2nd or the 3rd etc language one’s learnt, one is probably going to be able to express things better in English than one can in any other languages (including the first language one was made to learn) because English is so flexible and so expressive and so easy to use / read / type / learn / pronounce etc, a language cannot even get any easier than that - it’s naturally way easier to use in general, so if one learns English to a native speaker level and gets a lot of éxpòsure to it, like, constant éxpòsure, and uses it every day, one will naturally feel very comfortable using it, even more comfortable than one would feel using the first language one was made to learn, so I see on yt English learners that can express ideas better in English than they can in the first language they were made to learn all the time! English has been oversimplified to the maximum on purpose, so that it could easily become an universal language, plus English has more words and more slang and more idioms and more descriptive verbs and more descriptive terms in general etc than any other language, so one can express ideas in very detailed ways in English that aren’t possible in other languages, and many times, one cannot even translate certain words in other languages because the other languages don’t have specific terms that mean the exact same thing as the English word, and even the colors, like, there are words in English for every single shade, not just for the primary colors, and that’s just an example, but all other groups of words are like that as well, which makes it very easy to express ideas in English in very detailed ways - so, even if one knows all the words in another language and in the first language one was made to learn, one will never be able to express ideas in those languages as well as one can express them in English, due to the way each language was constructed and due to the number of words and descriptive terms / verbs each language has! I am learning many languages myself, and I am writer level in English, and even if I will get to a writer level in Old Norse and Dutch and Norwegian, I know I will never be able to express ideas in those languages as well as I can express them in English because I am aware of those differences in the ways each one of them has been constructed and also aware of the fact that English has a lot more descriptive terms and verbs and slang etc than any other languages, so I know that there are many things that I can only say in English, because there aren’t words in the other languages that mean the exact same thing - by the way, I am the only great being!
This was really a relief to watch. I've been learning German for the last 7 months and I keep having this urge to start on Spanish as well and I think that urge to start Spanish peaks every time I hit a bit of a wall with German. I want to learn both languages but I find it difficult to imagine learning a third language when my German isn't at a higher level. Sincerely appreciate your more realistic approach to language learning and the honesty you have regarding your progress in each different language. That's sorely lacking these days from many of the "polyglots" that are out there.
Thank you.
Yeah, I think starting a new language is a bit like starting a new fad diet because it always feels like THIS is the one that will work, when in reality, the only one that works is whatever you stick to for about 3 to 4 years (languages vary a bit more obviously).
I am in similar situation but vice versa. Have been trying to learning Spanish for a year, sometimes being able to put 30min a day but most of the time just 10-15 minutes of learning unfortunately. Latest weeks I am slowly started a bit with German but now I, instead, gonna go full in on Spanish, more time spend and watch a tv show etc. Thanks to Days and Words for motivation and advice!
Living in Spain, I often experience the same problem you had when speaking Swedish. I've studied Spanish since 2008, and I've lived in Spain since 2016. Whenever I do an intercambio with a native Spanish speaker, they tell me how well I speak, but then I go to a bar or restaurant with my wife, and I'm lost. It's incredibly frustrating, but I guess I just have to keep at it.
The key is keep calmly taking in tons of comprehensible input. So, mainly read stuff you can understand at a decent level and look some of the words up and keep taking in material you find interesting. Add to that, watch stuff you can understand at least 70%. Main thing is calmly reading to keep increasing your vocabulary. If you keep increasing vocabulary, you'll have access to more words and then at some point it'll turn into the ability to understand and speak better.
Keep juggling between reading, listening and even sometimes write stuff out. If you do all that, your skills will improve.
Watch Luca Lampariello videos, he explains it all extremely well. Definitely one of the best out there.
Is it the local slang and abbreviations that throws you off? Because if they are telling you that you speak well, I could only imagine that this might be the cause.? Hope you get over that obstacle.
I swear, trying to learn a 3rd language is the best way to learn your target language, idk why.
I've been learning Japanese for about 3 years, and I haven't really gotten that far, but taking a break from it and learning Portuguese has shown me that reading (one of the things I neglected learning Japanese) is an integral part of learning a language at a reasonable speed which has allowed me to have the capability to watch full episodes of a show in Portuguese and actually properly enjoy it after only 5 months of learning it.
It's my experience too with Japanese and Spanish.
What books do you read in Portuguese? I am learning Portuguese and would like to start reading regularly
@@burkhousehold8880 I think it's technically a graphic novel, but currently I'm going through a series called "o amuleto" by Kazu Kibuishi. The books are pretty short, and physical copies are pretty expensive, but as long as that's not an issue, I think it's worth the investment.
If that's not your cup of tea, plenty of people recommend the Harry Potter series and I had my Portuguese teacher recommend the Narnia books, though they'll probably have the same price issues as o amuleto.
@@seekthuth2817that's very good, I'm Brazilian and now I'm putting more effort in English and I don't know why, but japanese books are such an attractive thing, so I'm learn English by japanese books lol.
I'm not a good reader yet, so my approach was read whatever i wanted to.
By the way I can recommend some Brazilian books to learn Portuguese.
@@matheusgomessoares6180 Shoot man, I'm not gonna promise I'll get to them very soon, but that'd be awesome to hear if you're still willing to share.
needn’t is also used in Ireland. I got corrected for saying ‘aren’t’ by non natives too 😂 and got told off for using ‘reklama’ (advertisement) in German class at Uni because Germans don’t use this word. (Untrue).
It's true we don't use the word "reklama" (which is also the croatian word for advertisement) but "Reklame" although the word "Werbung" is more common.
Nicely conceived and presented - covers a lot of ground on what it means to "speak" a language. Very helpful in establishing goals and expectations for an adult beginner.
Thank you! I hope it helps.
I can relate to your experience with French. I am learning French and when I didn't progress any more I started to dabble into Portuguese instead of working on French. And I too have the problem that I can understand well spoken French from laquage teachers, but I completely fail at understanding every day spoken French. Though, I feel that it slowly, very slowly, gets better, the more input I get. Oh, I am German, for the records.
Exactly where I am with Danish. I can converse with people, but when they go full speed Danish with each other I get lost quickly. I’m going to commit myself to immersing more, and hoping I get results like Lamont.
@@amerikanskdansker8771 native dane here, you're brave to try learning danish. I am myself learning japanese since one year. Japanese is like danish in many ways: pronunciation of words/kanji is inconsistent, you can put words/kanji together to add properties like in danish.
Håber at et og en og upålidelige udtale ift. skreven.
Also here are some tips, they are not official just some patterns I have noticed in the danish language(I am writing a book in the style of "grammar guide" by tae kim)
hvilken/hvilken depends on if the noun this pronoun refers to is et/en
hviken ugedag er det i dag ? (en ugedag, if you did not know, for combined words the last word takes et/en precedence uge+ *dag* )
"at,vil,må,skal" voluntary or request or an act. sets a verb to stamform
Det er kedeligt *at fiske*
the act/activity of fishing is boring
vil du løbe væk med mig ?
do you want to run away with me ?
du løber væk med mig ?
you are running away with me ?(interpretation could be a command or a surprised statement )
Many danes cannot do this correct most of the time, so it does not really matter that much.
Good Luck, hope I was not annoying
@@Mathias-bz2kr Tusind tak for din forklaring! Jeg altid elsker at modtag hjælp med min dansk, især når det kommer fra en rigtig dansker! 😀🇩🇰 Jeg tror et dansk har en meget negativt røg for at blive det sværeste sprog i verden…men jeg prøver ikke at led den putter mig ned. Engelsk er også en mærkeligt sprog, men næsten enver dansker jeg kender taler engelsk godt nok.. Jeg vil lære dansk, selvom hvis det slå mig i hjel!! 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰
@@spellandshield Wenn es nur der Unterricht wäre, der vom Alltagsfranzösisch abweicht, aber bestimmte Formen findet man praktisch nur in der Schriftsprache.
(Gibt es im Japanischen ähnlich, da gibt es für bestimmte Wörter noch besonders vornehme Alternativen, Customer Support verwendet die, als Ausländer hat man dann verloren)
@@spellandshield Genau. Französisch sind eigentlich drei Sprachen: Die formelle geschriebene Sprache, die formelle gesprochene Sprache und die alltägliche, informell gesprochene Sprache.
Me ha gustado mucho este vídeo, a mí también me cambió la forma de aprender idiomas cuando probé el método del input comprensible. La verdad es que me encanta y me sirve, es genial. La verdad es que no entiendo por qué la gente se obsesiona con "cuándo puedes decir que hablas una lengua", que cada uno diga y haga lo que quiera mientras no dañen ni engañen a nadie, esa es mi opinión. Pásalo muy bien en México, sería chevere si haces un vlog ;)
el chavo del ocho
As a Norwegian I totally relate to how you said you could speak Norwegian but it would just be dressed up Swedish. That’s how I speak in Sweden, and even though it’s convincing, and Swedes often mistake me for a Swede from another town, I still feel fraudulent as it comes from the place of Norwegian in my brain. Even worse, because the languages are so close I don’t think I could ever get to a place where I actually “know” Swedish, I just kinda speak it. Jättebra video!
Can u speak and understand Danish?
@@ledaswan5990 Yeah sure in the same way I can speak Swedish, although Danish phonology is more unique, the 99% similar vocabulary makes up for it imo
Thanks for this video, I have been learning Arabic for yeaaars and hit a wall a few years back. A very similar situation to what you described where I was still having lessons with teachers online but was not progressing when it came to listening and reading new content. I think the input method that you mentioned is the next step. All the best
12:46 I think different? laguange enthusiasts/polyglots/whatever call this the "honey moon phase" with a new language: A lot is new stuff, new fresh books, courses, apps , relatively low effort results in good gains, etc... Some people are serial language beginners, seeking and enjoying this phase of novelty.
I think you agree with me, but it seems you misunderstood what I was saying.
I’m now 34, and I started learning fluent Greek when I was 26, and during the pandemic I started learning Portuguese, Spanish and Japanese. It goes to show that it’s never too late.
Bub, 50 year olds out there start new languages from scratch and become fluent.
It is never too late, until you're dead.
Bons estudos
@@rustyshackleford1465Yep. When you’re dead that pretty much puts an end to the language journey. But before that it’s anything goes. I’m learning Danish and Spanish at 67 years old
@@ledaswan5990 that's awesome, hope that goes well for you!
I speak Spanish (natively) English and German, I am currently learning Italian and Danish. I think the first stage is so wired because I am so aware that my Italian and Danish are Spanish and German with an accent respectively, and I am so self aware of it, specially being Argentinian which means that I already use a lot of Italian words when speaking Spanish so it is quite strange and confusing
How do you divide your study time? Like one day one language? Could you give me some tips ?
@@oliviervp5588 I'm a Native Spanish speaker so for Italian I did an intensive course to build the grammar up and now I focus on consuming as much as possible, because speaking Spanish Italian is already very inteligible. But 80% of my time goes to danish
@@oliviervp5588I wasn’t asked, but I’ll share my method.
I am a native English speaker. I took 4 years of French, 3 years of Spanish, and 1 year of German in High School.
That was 20 years ago with ZERO language study since.
During Covid lockdowns, I started playing with Duolingo and enjoyed it. That lead to deciding to actually focus on language learning. I started watching a LOT of UA-cam videos on the subject. Downloaded a LOT of both free and paid language learning apps, and I have been pretty serious with it for 1 years now.
I decided to focus on learning Spanish and Farsi. Spanish because I enjoy it, it is very useful, and I had a foundation already. Farsi was 100% new for me from scratch and MUCH harder. Both to learn and to find resources for. I'm learning Farsi because I have some relatives who speak it. They are also fluent in English, but I thought it would be nice to learn.
I have spent about 1 hour per day studying these for over a year now and here's what I have learned and settled on.
1. Using One App:
Using any one app isn't enough. You need more. If you are going to use only one app, make sure it is a VERY comprehensive app.
I have tested and used 20+ language apps now. Only a few I would consider "comprehensive". Most are very basic or good as a supplement, but not good as a stand alone at all.
2. Using 2 or more apps.
I think it is an EXCELLENT idea to use 2 different types of apps that complement each other well. It breaks up the learning experience and teaches you in more than one way.
I found this VERY helpful.
Then I thought if 2 is good, 3 is even better, and 4 even better than that.
WRONG... using too many spreads you too thin. You don't really progress fast enough. Find 2 good apps (per language) and stick with those.
You can play with others as a supplement, but find your 2 main ones and stick with those.
3. Time Breakdown:
I spend a MINIMUM of 30 minutes on Spanish every day and 30 minutes on Farsi every day.
The KEY is consistency over time.
30 minutes every day, times 7 days per week = 3.5 hours per week.
That 3.5 hours per week is WAY more effective than 5 hours per week squeezed into one day.
How I spend my 30 minutes?
15 minutes listening.
15 minutes vocab, grammar, review, etc.
For Farsi I use:
1. Pimsleur = 15 min audio
2. Mondly = 15 min vocab + flash cards
For Spanish:
1. Speakly = 15 min audio
2. Busuu = 15 min grammar, lessons, review, practice, etc.
Speakly and Busuu don't offer Farsi. Neither goes Duolingo, Babbel, and most other apps.
I recently got Rocket Languages for Spanish (as a gift) and I think that is an EXCELLENT program. Extremely well done and comprehensive. I will have to figure out how to incorporate that. It is MUCH better than Busuu or Speakly. So it may replace one of those.
But, I have done my 15 minutes EVERY day for a year with those 4 apps as my bare minimum.
I occasionally do more.
I also do 10-15 minutes a day on Duolingo for Spanish, but just for fun. I don't consider that "learning" or even a good use of time. I just have a 500+ day streak I don't want to lose and it is fun competing with friends and family.
I will also occasionally spend 30+ minutes per day in one or more of my 4 main apps.
I have also bought some books to supplement. I occasionally listen to watch UA-cam videos in my target languages or teaching my target languages.
** So... my "system" is use one "Main" app and one "supplemental" app every day. Then supplement with UA-cam videos, podcasts, books, etc.
Have a CORE bare minimum daily routine. Like brushing your teeth.
> Main Apps Could Be:
Pimsleur
Rocket Languages
Babbel
Busuu
Pimsleur and Rocket are both HEAVILY focused on audio based learning and are the BEST. I'd say Rocket is slightly better, but they only have 14 languages. Pimsleur has 51 languages available!
I could honestly make an argument for either one being better, but they are both excellent.
Pimsleur has monthly options that are cheaper, about $20/mo. Rocket ONLY has lifetime plans, but they are $180 for LIFE, so that is way better if you plan to study for more than 1 year. I expect to use either one for at least 3-5 years, so Rocket is a much better deal.
Rocket says $450, but it is ALWAYS on sale for $180, or find a UA-cam channel with a promo code. Test Prep Insight always has good promo codes.
Babbel and Busuu are VERY similar to each other. Both are good, but not as good as Rocket or Pimsleur.
Babbel and Busuu are both very affordable. Only around $7/month. Both are FAR superior to something like Duolingo.
Babbel does specials where you can get it for $90 for 2 years or $240 for lifetime. They have a Black Friday sale right now for $140 for LIFE.
Busuu does sales too. I got it last year for $36/year for life. That was a great deal. Busuu isn't perfect, but it is excellent and has a GREAT community feature to practice with native speakers.
Busuu also has a 100% free option that just plays an ad after every lesson. Babbel, Rocket, and Pimsleur do not have that option.
Busuu is amazing to have that free offer.
> Supplement Apps Could Be:
Mondly
Memrise
Speakly (excellent)
Beelinguapp (excellent)
LingoPie (excellent)
> Good Flash Card Apps:
Anki
Quizlet (I've heard, but haven't used)
Clozemaster
> Other Apps:
*Mango Languages:
This one seems like it could be good. I just found it ugly and boring, but might be good for learning.
*Innovative Languages:
These seem good, but very scattered. I spent some time with these, but found I liked my 4 apps better, but I occasionally watch their UA-cam videos. They are the "pod" series apps. SpanishPod101, PersianPod101, etc.
*Duolingo:
I am very thankful to Duolingo for opening my eyes to this language app world. I don't think it is great for learning a new language, but I think it can be good for fun practice as a supplement to other things.
> Apps I Did Not Like:
Rosetta Stone (shockingly bad)
Drops (some like it, I didn't)
I tried Tandem (a language exchange app to practice with native speakers). I think it is a great idea, but I didn't find any good people. Most were trying to use it as a dating app.
I've heard great things about iTalki. I might try that next.
I recently did a trial with LingoPie. That looks like a nice system. I wish they had Farsi.
I hope that helps.
Good luck.
PS: This channel does excellent app reviews. So does Test Prep Insight. App reviews is all they do.
Both for language learning apps and other academic apps.
Thank you for this video, Lamont. It arrived at exactly the time I needed it. Your dynamics with Swedish and French almost mirror my tug of war with German and Italian. This was the eye opener I needed.
I found this very relatable: I am a fellow Aussie, I also learned German & French at school, went to Germany for a month with school friends, also staying in German houses, & now just over 20 years later, am learning Spanish.
Great video, mate! Educational and humorous. I love your sense of humor!
Yeah, I’ve kind of done the same thing. After I ran out of good materials to help advance my Cantonese I started working on Vietnamese (which I also had a fairly good reason to learn) that I also had a reason to learn. Then after many years of learning Vietnamese and Cantonese and feeling quite frustrated by Vietnamese (particularly the pronunciation), then I started focusing on Spanish because most of the people in the neighborhood were Spanish speakers. But now I’m back to mainly focusing on Vietnamese.
Any good resources youd recomme dating for Cantonese? I'm also in a similar boat wanting to learn canto and also viet, as those are my heritage laguages
You’re channel has really helped my language learning journey, honestly. Good advice and good methods 👏🏻
Just want to say: I really like your approach to languages and to sharing the ups and downs and actual difficulties (not like so many "polyglot" UA-camrs who claim to speak 8 languages fluently in 4 weeks, lol). I lived in Germany for a year very many years ago, and my German is still at like B2, I think. I listen to German podcasts (Easy German - it is so good!) - I really want to improve it and I would love to learn some Farsi, Korean and French. We´ll see.
As a person who's only left the United States 2 months ago to go to Montreal, I know you've never spent a day in Australia because I haven't heard you say crikey a SINGLE time. There's no way you've spoken English before starting this UA-cam channel.
Enjoy your trip! I’m really forward to hearing about how you got on (both the kids and their competition and you with your Spanish!).
"Repeated exposure to words and patterns found in the language"
Thanks bud
2:35 Actually, you speak English really well for an Austrian ... 🤣🤣🤣 More seriously, though, a lot of people o/s (especially in North America) think that all Australians talk like Crocodile Dundee. I have had plenty of Canadians tell me that I was "obviously" British, that Australians don't sound like me, etc. etc. I mean ... how would I know? I've only lived in Australia all my life! Only one nice lady I met in the Toronto Art Gallery identified me as an Aussie - and she had lived in Sydney for a few years.
I took French and Latin at High School. Towards the end of my schooling, my uncle fell ill and I was visiting him in hospital. He pointed me to the bed next to him. "That poor bugger only speaks French. He's from New Caledonia, and has no visitors. Why don't you talk to him?" So I tried. I barely got past "Bonjour !" My uncle was disgusted. "Your parents spend all their money sending you to that fancy school, and you can't even talk to the guy after four years of French!" We had read Molière, Camus, Saint-Exupéry ... but we only learned to read. I think the big difference now is UA-cam and other platforms. "Comprehensible input" now includes _spoken_ French, and that is quite different to only getting written input. Both are necessary - and then some practice at speaking, mainly to overcome nervousness but also to form "muscle memory" for the formation of certain sounds not present in one's own language.
We kinda had the same experience with German. I had taken it at school for like 2 terms and went to Germany with my family for a one-week holiday and I tried to speak German on every occasion. Not too successful but did get by to some extent. Now that over 30 years have passed and I cannot speak at all, when I started studying Dutch, I realized how much German I remember. More than I have thought.
Nice shoutout to the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air for the sectional naming BTW.
"It just felt like that's what I should do."😂 Serendipity. I've spent my 75 years similarly! Love your style!
Hi Lamont, I hope you're having a pleasant trip!😊
Bienvenido a México mi amigo. Que tú y tu hijo se la pasen muy chido aquí y que coman comida muy sabrosa. Disfruten mucho de su estancia. 🇲🇽🎉
Welcome to Mexico my friend. I hope you and your son have a great time here and eat delicious food. Enjoy your stay very much. 🇲🇽🎉
Mi hijo no está aquí!
I love your videos - very encouraging. I agree that of course “needn’t” is a word. Well, a contraction of two words, but you know that! I use it regularly. You have excellent English and are very articulate ❤
Cheers.
daydreamt, undreamt, redreamt, outdreamt, and dreamt :D
Omg the speaking tests, very true, how it worked for my school too.
Hahaha, your story at 3:10 gave me a nice laugh 😂
This is the beauty of English that I really love, it's varied everywhere!
Good luck in Mexico!!
Awesome video. I love the discordance between the German and Swedish music.
Have fun in Mexico! Your description of an input-based method is the best I've heard
Ich lerne Englisch mit Deinen Videos:) Deine Stimme ist krass^^
cool story bro
I had english in school from grade 6, age 11 or so, and at age 20 I knew exactly nothing.. then the internet came to my home and I could watch South Park and sci fi movies in english every day! boy, this changed things
then at age 30 I decided to try spanish, and wouldn ´t you know - there´s a spanish dub version of South Park! so I did that
later I started with french, yup --- South Park a la Francaise
and finally I started doing dutch --- and that´s quite tricky, since they don´t dub anything, had to find other materials
in true internet polyglot fassion I have textbooks for about 4 other languages and I wonder if I´ll ever use them :)
keep up the good work!
3:08 I amn’t surprised!
I am a premium member like so many here and the last thing I expected was another advertisement!
Um, you mean UA-cam Premium? You know that has nothing to do with sponsored videos, right? That's like paying for a car and then complaining that you still have to buy a bus ticket.
I had a lot of Chinese people tell me how great my Mandarin was. I figured it was because I had really great pronunciation in a very "standard" accent. Once my accent in Mandarin started shifting towards how people speak in the part of China where I lived I stopped getting so many compliments about it.
You stopped sounding so much like a foreigner who's still learning?
love that the music bit for 'is counting German fair?' was auto transcribed as thank you 😀
p.s. the whole bit about German was hilarious \ an interesting insight, so 'thank you' indeed
Another great video Lamont. Always like your thoughts on language learning.
Safe trip man! Hope the robotics competition was a blast!
I have started my language learning journey this year. I already knew French and some Spanish, but I’ve gotten serious and added three more languages, as well as about seven others that are on my list of future languages to learn. I hope to be a big-time polyglot.
Wusste gar nicht, dass du Deutsch sprichst. Dann sag ich dir mal auf Deutsch, dass mir deine Videos mittlerweile richtig gut gefallen. Haben sie natürlich irgendwie schon immer, weil ich dich ja schon ein paar Jahre abonniert habe :P Aber man merkt richtig, wie du die Qualität deiner Videos steigerst. Und deine Witze sind on-point ;-)
I'm an Aussie living in Latin America and I love it. Latinos are very patient with non-native Spanish speakers. Make some friends and have a great time!
I speak English exactly as you do. I'm from NSW, I think we all kind of speak like you. I needn't support my claim, as most other English-speakers around world don't understand us anyway.
Great video again Lamont, always inspiring! Your description of being distracted by French to the detriment of your Swedish describes how I still feel with my Danish...I think I just need to immerse more as you did. Have fun in Mexico! I was just in Mazatlán, I'll be very interested to hear how your language exploits go down there.
Love the blooper! I believe your reference was from one of the Minions movies. Alas, I don't remember which. No, no, no, pa poy! Great video, btw. Love the emphasis on input. I'll check out Lingopoy, er, Lingopie.
Yeah it's the first one (Despicable Me).
Brother, I've been watching your videos and want to give you some feedback.
You are doing a good job with being humble and admitting the error of your ways. You have very good critical thinking skills and you are good at analyzing concepts and breaking open things in a level headed way. Very good👍. My guess is you probably have a respectable IQ.
Lastly, your humor and wit is excellent, so you know how to make videos entertaining. All a good combo.
I wish you luck with your career ambitions.
Cheers for that!
LingoPie looks amazing and I would definitely happily pay for it, but sadly they don't have the language that I want to learn. I imagine, though, it's time consuming for them to have even the languages they do have. Hopefully, they will be able to add more eventually. Thanks for letting us know though, because maybe I will try out one of their existing languages = I would not have known about them without your reviews.
Currently using French to procrastinate on learning Japanese. It's just much easier to find comprehensible input in a language that's relatively closer to my native language of German.
Not that they are really related, but being next to each other has caused some spill over in both directions. Being the stereotypical German with a C2 level of English helps as well.
Though I would still consider myself a beginner in both languages (Japanese grammar is killing me, so are the homonyms, and French homophones are also "fun")
My motivation would probably be media (games, comics, movies) more than the actual countries.
The same but with French and Mandarin Chinese
The inout part is really true, but the problem most people have is that they can understand perfectly the thigns said and the context and even give the answers, opinions, anyways you understand, but you are not fluently speaking it, specially if the language has a hard pronunciation according to the language you are learning from, so I do advice to practice speaking to develop a good level, but as all, the input is the first part, and later you can practice the speaking so you feel more confident.
I actually learnt english bu myself, ostly watching tv, youtube videos, playing games and reading, and what help me a lot was a teacher, he make us speak in front of the class for 5 minutes of you literally fail, only 3 people passed an we talked for like two minutes, the thing is that that gave us insight of what really takes to learn a language and not only filling th books or taking exams and quizes and getting perfect grades, but understanding and speaking it was the important part.
Other thing that you mentioned is the "Thinking" part, most people I know listen to the question/words and translated to their native language, respond in that language, and then translate in their heads again and then respond, and that takes times and sometimes you freeze and your mind goes blank, so what I did was to jsut talk or listen to my friends and family speak, and tried to translated in my mind in english, the things they said, the quetions, the answers, sometimes the things i wrote or read in the street or books, the thing i that I did this in my mind constanly and most times I lacked words and couldn't do it, so i remenber the word that I didn't know in english and looked for it, how it was used and all and that helped me to get a vocabulary of word I would really potentially use is a way I, my family or friend, or even regular people from other countries would posibly speak and with the input i knew if that traduction I made made sense in context or not, and well at first the knowledge acumulated fast and I got better at it, but after the pace slowed and took some years to reach almost native level, and still my weakness is speaking because I didn't have anyone to speak to, the oportunity to travel but i never really tried to get better at it, so.....
Love to see an Australian language channel! Thanks Lamont!
Thank you for saying the name! I didn't know of was LingoPee or LingoPie lol I recently switched from Brazilian Portuguese to European Portuguese as I prepare to move to Portugal. I can't seem to change the "main language" on my profile to Euro Portuguese even though there is content for it.
I'm so sorry about your dad being a drug kingpin but I believe you calling him a doctor is justified since people call their drugs their medicine. Overall, a very unfortunate circumstance that your school did not teach you the proper wording for your father's job. I appreciate your story sir and it resonates very close to me.
I started following you in 2019 and since then I always felt like this channel is just perfect for me. I truly enjoy your approach to every aspect you have highlighted in this channel.
My story started with English in the second grade (haven't stopped learning it since then), then in 5th grade I started studying German, after a year in the US as an exchange student I forgot most of it. I entered university majoring in Turkish language and literature 4 years ago. I can claim that I speak 3 languages: Ukrainian, English and Turkish
I also used to speak ruzzian, but once those assholes invaded my country for the second time I stopped speaking it and I hope that I lose an ability to speak it soon. Lemont, I hope that you decide not to continue learning ruzzian. Learning language is always about learning culture and I don't think you need to be exposed to a highly imperialistic culture that ruzzianz have
Thank you very much for your amazing videos! They inspire me a lot
espero que tengas un buen viaje!!
Rodrigo y Gabriela 😄 Great video
Great video! I appreciate the honest approach to language learning. J'adore la langue française, mais malheureusement j'ai peu d'occasions de le parler ici en Espagne où j'habite. Aprovecha el viaje a México. Es una gran oportunidad. Hablar idiomas debe de ser muy útil para un mafioso. No sé si sigues en el negocio familiar, pero tu padre debe estar orgulloso de ti. Jestem o ciebie zazdroszny. Mam chęć pojechać do Polski. Uczę się polskiego od półtora roku i nigdy tam nie byłem. ２年後に日本に行きたいです。日本語は私の5番目の言語です。頑張って！
Re: the compliments on your Swedish competency
tl:dr: read last sentence. :-)
I was always so nervous about performance and am such a perfectionist, I never thought I was all that good with French, even after 4 years of high school ( = 4 days of living in France) plus a quarter of college French, which was mostly the repeat material that I still hadn't absorbed. o.O
So then I applied for French 4X/5X, an intensive immersion quarter my university offered every year, in which 20 students and one of the French teachers lived with families in Nîmes, France, attending class as usual, but in an adult education center in the city center. Side note: I arrived a week late due to the stress of prepping and the rest of life leading me to think I'd come down sick. Oh, well.
My first moments meeting my host family for an 11-week stay (which I made 16) went like this:.they asked questions, I answered them. That and my brothers agog that they were really hosting a Californian student, which they'd not believed was ever going to happen, which my flash illness only fueled. I didn't know all the words I wanted, but it was all in French. It surprised me, too; especially after completely failing at it my first few hours of my Paris layover-but that's Paris-ahem.
After an hour or so to get settled into my new bedroom, two classmates from my same neighborhood came over, with one or two of their host family members as well. I was exhausted with jet lag made worse by staying up the whole night walking around in Paris, and it being Easter, I had to stand up most of the 8-hour trip down to Nîmes. So my classmates bent the rules and spoke mostly English while the true francophones conversed. One of the other host brothers, though, had been learning English and planned to exchange into Ohio the following school year. He didn't understand a dang thing I said. I was tired, so speaking the usual sloppy way we converse among friends back in California, meaning even less like written English than the damned language already suffers. My classmate he hosted said, "Oh, just slow down and speak with a French accent." I laughed, but it worked. By enunciating and mimicking the same pronunciation problems my teacher made when speaking English, he understood. So the point is that he had this exact same experience with me. It was illuminating. Later, I would have the same experience myself many times, especially the first couple of weeks, in phone calls, and, to this day, most of the time watching television. NOW I know that TV French, especially from newscasters, was spoken by persons deliberately trying to move their lips as little as possible, except when busy emphasizing their mastery of rounded front vowels.
Then there was week 3 of the quarter, in which we classmates started waking up with nasty headaches. All of us. Our instructor recognized the phenomenon and asked us if we were dreaming entirely in French, yet. Indeed. So basically we were transitioning into fully thinking and conversing in French, but the lag of a few days between unconscious and conscious performance exhausted our poor little brains. Never saw that coming. It was exhilarating to fully cross the threshold, though. I seldom had to translate in my head. Together outside the classroom, we classmates spoke Franglais that steadily progressed over the quarter into almost exclusively French. Our goal was to avoid English in order to better our immersion and pronunciation, but the Franglais permitted us to converse fluidly and simply correct one another with the words one person had learned sooner. At the same time, the torment of trying to ask how to say this or that entirely in French questions relaxed into the same kinds of questions French kids asked adults, no more stress-usually. LOL, there are those moments, omg. Sometimes English cognates and near-homophones really get in the way. My host mom and I went round and round one afternoon trying to figure out what the heck the other was saying when she thought my 'culture' questions were nonsensical 'couture' questions, and we both got blocked after a minute of confusion so that we couldn't figure out what was wrong. LOL Guess you had to be there.
I still stress like mad, and I'll never be truly "fluent" as far as the French are concerned, despite how many compliments they throw my way. But the French are more critical about their beloved language and intellectual in its use, more than speakers of most languages. Best think of fluency on a scale, say, of zero to five, zero knowing no words, like I discovered about Finnish when I passed through Helsinki, to five being the command of an educated native speaker of a language. I'm a brain into languages and decently educated, so my English is a five, while no few native speakers are more of a four, occasionally a three. My French back in the early 1990s I would place a good three, but only because I'd had a lot of formal French education by the time I graduated. I've studied Italian, Spanish, and a little German, plus dabbled in more languages than I can count (language studies major), and I think I reached a decent the first two, able to carry on a conversation with a stranger. I SHOULD be a four in Spanish, BUT I HAD to rebel; quel teenager: my step-dad's first language was Spanish, albeit neither of his parents spoke a California dialect, and fully half my region's population speaks Spanish natively or near-natively.
Oh, German. Lesson learned. Do NOT schedule a class for a new foreign language immediately followed by a short walk to a class for a familiar foreign language. I walked from German I to advanced courses taught in French. It was terrible. I only retained enough not to fail the German class. X-D
So that's the long version of "I agree," and, "It's best to discuss competency on a scale, "'luency' being more competent than merely speaking or reading." My two cents worth. :)
I love the diatribes where you go off on random comments on your video that drive you nuts.
Great vid. I can’t believe you never actually went to Sweden for a holiday you crazy man hahaha. Hope Mexico is rad 🎉
Looking forward to Underbelly: Days Of French And Swedish.
Ich wusste gar nicht das du deutsch sprichst! But honestly, if you can communicate you speak the language, maybe not well but that is all in all a fairly minor issue IMHO.
I experience the same thing. I can have a conversation in Portuguese but when I hear natives talk or I'm spoken to like a native I'm usually pretty lost haha
I don't know why here there's a lot of Portuguese learners, I'm also a Portuguese student but since the very first day of my life .
I don't know your level, but I can help with some material to do input, If you want it just tell me what do you like
AMT - Alternative Minimum Tax. It's used widely in the IRS dialect of American English. Among other American-English speakers, it's a swear word.
"needn't" ...is too a word. This comes from an American who can recognize a contraction when he sees it...
I've studied eight languages. I still only speak one, but I understand the thought processes behind all of them.
Are you telling me it's a word? Because I'm well aware.
Do you think books (in that language) are absolutely necessary for what you mentioned in 14:21 ? Would watching videos/vlogs in that language with subtitles on suffice?
Best of luck in Mexico!
Somewhere around 4,000 hours of immersion in Spanish, the hard part is after about 800 you really only improve marginally if at all. I know you do, but on a daily basis it's not enough to measure. It's super frustrating and IMO that's why most people jump to another language because in many ways grinding to an advanced level is a poor return on investment, especially if you'll never live in a country that speaks the language.
Enjoy Mexico!
Mucha suerte en Mexico
i hope other (non-north American - including Canadians?-) native English speakers have given this a thumbs-up solely for the correct abbreviation of 'mathematics'.
Hope you enjoy ( ed...just sat the end ..I'm a bit late )Mexico - I miss it ..been too long...
Unkempt also ends in mt, so there's that. And needn't is a word in the US as well.
I like the fact that you edited the comment so as to unkempt properly but didn't change the message to be correct... since, as you learned, unkempt ends in pt...
As a German speaking Swedish and four other languages, i regularly something in one language and try to process it in another language - but that only happens with German and Swedish
¡Hola!¡Espero que estés muy bien! Gracias por el video, Lamont.
¿Puedo saber cuál es la música que suena de fondo en la sección patrocinada por Liñgö Pie.?¿Acaso es música llanera (del norte de sudamérica)?
I need to use this
Mannen. Himla snygg flagga du har…tror jag sett den förr nånstans. Du är väl med i Föreningen Australiens Svenska Flaggan Sällskapets Vänner-FASFSV? 😂 (skulle fan inte förvåna ett dugg om det finns ett sådant)
Ha det fett kul i Mexiko!
Enjoy Mexico! 🇲🇽
You are hilarious. Loads of ❤😂
2:52 I've been thinking about starting a language learning channel actually... Thanks for the heads up! 😅
Thought about it too but I don't like the sound of my voice recorded
Nice video, I have had a similar experience with Spanish to your Swedish and this video has helped me plan out what to do next. I’m also learning German on the side, but I’m mainly focusing on Spanish, and eventually plan to learn another language once I get good at German and Spanish. Also, why did you choose to learn Swedish out of the Nordic languages? I’m not judging, I’m just curious to know why you chose it.
Hello to anyone willing to read this! I’m new to the language learning sphere and trying to take up Spanish first, I understand input as a concept however practically applying it seems a bit odd to me. When I’m reading or watching my shows in my target language with English subtitles does it matter that I don’t get it or can’t even isolate words unless it one’s that I’m very confident on? Especially with reading, what good does it do? Is it just for formatting and being able to isolate words in spoken (language)? At what point am I worried about getting deep into translation?
Its called COMPREHENSIBLE input because you coomprehend it...if you can't comprehend it then you need to find something suited to your level.
Hey, love the content (cheers 🥂). Thanks for the funny and interesting posts! Im working on Spanish and was wondering if you have recommendations for other content creators like you that talk about language learning, but where the main language of the channel is Spanish? I need more Spanish input and i love this topic. Thanks!
Mr. Salas! (Mexico)
Hmm, there is this woman who talks all about Spanish all the time, and I think she is from Spain and her videos are literally just ABOUT Spanish, not for learners, but for people interested in how the language got to be that way... but I can only find her through my other account so I'll come back to you.
Here we go:
Linguriosa
I guess it depends what sort of Spanish you want to learn (like, where from).
@@daysandwords hey, thanks a lot for the suggestions! My Salas looks interesting but I'll have to work up to that speed of talking. Linguriosa is perfect! She talks at a good pace, is funny, entertaining, etc. Awesome, cheers man
@@daysandwords for those who have the same question, I found a channel that's fantastic and the guys speaks very clear Spanish: Martin adquiere un idioma. Highly recommend!
You bring up comprehensible input a lot. Do you engage in any kind of deliberate learning when approaching a new language? Curious to know.
How long this is going to be speaking in every language with nonstop and how
Something unexpected I learned with this video: Apparently people think Australians don't soeak English 😅
By the way, I'm from Chile and people also doubt that I speak Spanish because of my accent (it's my MOTHER TONGUE!!)
I'm Australian and I use "needn't". No one else I know does, but that could be because I'm a bit nerdy and eccentric.
Heaps of Australians use needn't - this guy was just an idiot.
Needn't - I have more than twice as many year as you, in the southern US ;-) and I know we use "Needn't" in speaking... However, I don't think I'd write it that way?? I also wouldn't write 'gonna', 'dunno', or 'Lesgo" [as in lesgo - Let's go]... So, I dunno how that fits in your discussion. ;-). [I am not a polyglot.]
Learn sign language, you don't even to learn speaking and listening. You will know 6 language.
Good luck getting out of Mexico - make sure that you have some cash on-hand "just in case".
So, while this didn't happen to me, it's happened to two of my friends, although it was in the early/mid 2000's (not dollars, years).
I'm learning: French, Norwegian, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, German and Polish!
So, I'd recommend dropping everything in the same family at the very least. So you might end up with French, German and Polish.
@@daysandwords no its OK
I've been doing french on and off for 10 plus years now
I know to know the difference between them
It's still too many.
I see you have some thick books on German, French and Collins. Do you think It'd be possible for someone to learn Collins in 3 months as their first foreign language using Duolingo and studying no grammar at all?
Haha, I was actually kind of annoyed by that decision by Collins. Because they are legit matching dictionaries but just for no reason the Spanish one says Collins rather than Spanish.
@@daysandwords I know the struggle. I own a collection of Dostoevsky's works, all made by the same publisher and all following the same graphical design pattern. Until the last volume. They actually had the gall to change the font and color of the title on the spine on the last one they published.
Yeah. Another one I hate is those box sets of books, e.g. I have the Song of Ice and Fire ones (although it was like $5 from an op-shop so I can't complain) - but in theory, every book fits in there... but that's when they are brand new and vacuum sealed into the damn thing. Once you have so much as read the dedication on one book, the spine increases by about 1mm, and about 7mm by the time the book has any miles on the clock.
So then if you plan on reading all 7 books, they all look the same, but suddenly you're 49mm over the capacity of the box they came in.
EDIT: Although, it's always kind of moot on book series that aren't finished anyway. I read that Martin is saying that The Winds of Winter will end up being at least 50% longer than the longest book thus far, and he's worried that the publishers will want to make it two titles. (I'm not sure why they couldn't just make it 1 title in three volumes...)
3.57 'I jazzed'. Australians don't typically jazz, ergo you must not be a native speaker of English, haha only jesting with you! Actually, I grew up in Northern Ireland and when I moved to England the English frequently thought I was from Canada, The Netherlands or Scandinavia. It was funny to see their shock when they learnt that I was a native English speaker
Edit - I was not from Scandinavian
Hope you enjoyed your stay in Mexico. Can you tell us as an aside how the team did in Texas.?
You're like 2 weeks in the future my dude. I'll be Mexico for another week and THEN the Houston tournament.
@@daysandwords ok just keep us informed. My excitement.
The ending 😲😄😄😆
Je te présente* ma copine 👍🏻
Does "daydreamt" count as another "mt" word?
I would say no, not really but I guess technically, yes. Someone else proposed that too, and it's miles better than the dozens of people who have unironically written "unkempt". Like they wrote exactly that, spelled correctly.
what is the price of lingopie? their website doesn't mention it at all
I keep dreaming in Hindi 😂 Sometimes my brain hurts because I’m thinking in Hindi so much - I need more vocab