Well There's Your Problem | Episode 155: The Camp Fire

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  • @reader111089
    @reader111089 5 місяців тому +511

    I am waiting for the "Oops! All Tangents!" Episode, but they treat it like a normal episode with an actual topic that they just never get around to.

    • @oinksnork
      @oinksnork 5 місяців тому +34

      A true 18 hour episode, with the subject being discussed about as much as the latrine collapse?

    • @krishonk7754
      @krishonk7754 5 місяців тому +6

      That's a really good idea that they should actually do

    • @MazHem
      @MazHem 5 місяців тому +6

      The balthazar speedboat of the problem universe

    • @mixmastermind
      @mixmastermind 5 місяців тому +4

      The first RLM Star Wars Holiday Special episode

    • @morphicnature
      @morphicnature 5 місяців тому +12

      When they finally do the Tacoma Narrows Bridge Disaster

  • @booti_boi6927
    @booti_boi6927 5 місяців тому +486

    Once again stating that I believe that Kevin should be treated as a rank name like Bosley and given to any and all guests who need to be anonymous

    • @booti_boi6927
      @booti_boi6927 5 місяців тому +41

      Because it's funny

    • @bookcat123
      @bookcat123 5 місяців тому +7

      Seconded!

    • @Eliteerin
      @Eliteerin 5 місяців тому +25

      Madame X sounded more badass as an anonymous name

    • @maebhryan3040
      @maebhryan3040 5 місяців тому +20

      Madame and Monsieur X.

    • @bobsmith2637
      @bobsmith2637 5 місяців тому +9

      "I'm Kevin!" "No, I'm Kevin!"

  • @scottbrayton9484
    @scottbrayton9484 5 місяців тому +814

    "The arc of history bends towards justice, not because of any inherent properties but because people get out there and bend it"

    • @piccalillipit9211
      @piccalillipit9211 5 місяців тому +24

      YEP

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 5 місяців тому +17

      Right on.

    • @karhu7581
      @karhu7581 5 місяців тому +19

      Nova was so real for saying that

    • @excrubulent
      @excrubulent 5 місяців тому +26

      Honestly that's always how I've interpreted that phrase. I think if anybody understood that then MLK would have. His legacy has just been coopted so much after his death that people can pretend he was a lot more passive than he was.

    • @MazHem
      @MazHem 5 місяців тому +20

      Let's all be benders

  • @imogenwren
    @imogenwren 5 місяців тому +140

    Flying planes so close to the ground to fight fires is even more terrifying when you learn; as you dump the water, you have to push the sticks forward to keep the nose level, as the now lighter plane travelling at a high airspeed have a tendancy to nose up so violently it can rip the wings off.

    • @cholulahotsauce6166
      @cholulahotsauce6166 5 місяців тому +30

      Hate to be the first person to find that out

    • @codered11343
      @codered11343 4 місяці тому +1

      😳

    • @MrJohndoakes
      @MrJohndoakes 2 місяці тому +1

      That's why you play the throttle like a saxophone while keeping that yoke forward because most of the fire bombers are now converted 737 ex-cargo planes. So you at least get a lot of turbofan power.

  • @lukeman9851
    @lukeman9851 5 місяців тому +193

    10 minutes in and I just want to say that i would absolutely subscribe to "Well That's Not My Problem: A podcast about whatever else we feel like talking about at the moment"

    • @LavastormSW
      @LavastormSW 5 місяців тому +25

      That's just the patreon bonus episodes

    • @sunnohh
      @sunnohh 5 місяців тому +12

      Only if it doesn’t prevent banter, protect tangents at all costs

    • @goopah
      @goopah 5 місяців тому +7

      "Well That's Not My Problem: A podcast about whatever else we feel like talking about at the moment" I mean, that's what it always has been, and it's the reason I'm here.

  • @Axolotine
    @Axolotine 5 місяців тому +354

    Seething Podcel: "Why aren't they talking about the engineering disaster? Why is this episode 3 hours long? This frightens and angers me."
    WTYP-patricians: "I want to spend more time listening to them talking about fewer engineering disasters per hour and I'm not kidding."

    • @Cameronmid1
      @Cameronmid1 5 місяців тому +32

      I like this balance. You got the pre-text of finding out a bunch of cool / interesting things while learning about an engineering disaster that really makes the banter go down smoothly.

    • @magesalmanac6424
      @magesalmanac6424 5 місяців тому

      Too bad the guest on this one is an insufferable snob.

    • @iceman5117
      @iceman5117 5 місяців тому +25

      I want a 6 hour pod about the shortest disaster ever

    • @traviskitteh
      @traviskitteh 5 місяців тому +3

      ​@@iceman5117 thereby creating the longest disaster ever.

    • @domovie1
      @domovie1 3 місяці тому +3

      One of those theoretical physics problems where, as we approach zero engineering disasters, we approach an infinitely long podcast

  • @Rosa-lv8yw
    @Rosa-lv8yw 5 місяців тому +398

    Probably the least search-optimised fire name ever

    • @loadeddice4696
      @loadeddice4696 5 місяців тому +35

      I wonder what the best SEO disaster is. Something distinctive, unique, not also the title of any kind of movie or tv show.

    • @magesalmanac6424
      @magesalmanac6424 5 місяців тому +16

      It would be the GPS coordinates of where the fire originated.

    • @maxwellkazemba2299
      @maxwellkazemba2299 5 місяців тому +17

      ​@@Rubicola174strong choices, also the Hindenburg Disaster

    • @MySerpentine
      @MySerpentine 5 місяців тому +17

      @@loadeddice4696 The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Fire?

    • @redstonerelic
      @redstonerelic 5 місяців тому +1

      I was felt the same way kinda ironic given the size comparison

  • @Man2quilla
    @Man2quilla 5 місяців тому +82

    Love Liam sharing jokes from his rabbi. I always heard that joke as Elie Wiesel meeting god and telling a holocaust joke. God doesn't get it, and Elie says "you had to be there."

  • @sks2000
    @sks2000 5 місяців тому +164

    With all the talk of hunting Smokey the Bear, I feel the need to introduce Ember the Fox. The mascot Britsh Columbia introduced to replace Smokey and promote responsible forest management, as well as clearly being disgned by a furry

    • @imacds
      @imacds 5 місяців тому +17

      thank you

    • @MazHem
      @MazHem 5 місяців тому +9

      Definitely that fursuit

    • @Soken50
      @Soken50 5 місяців тому +23

      I googled Ember the Fox to see what it looked like, half of the image results is furry erotica...

    • @elfpi55-bigB0O85
      @elfpi55-bigB0O85 5 місяців тому +15

      ​@@Soken50god bless America 🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷🗽

    • @elfpi55-bigB0O85
      @elfpi55-bigB0O85 5 місяців тому +20

      ​@@Soken50 just checked it my self nah that's your search algo giving you what it thinks you want buddy

  • @loganwilsie106
    @loganwilsie106 5 місяців тому +476

    The actual Aldo Leopold quote is
    "One of the penalties of an ecological education is that one lives alone in a world of wounds."
    "Mark" was definitely underselling how intense the quote is

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 5 місяців тому +13

      It's very accurate.

    • @IndomitableAde
      @IndomitableAde 5 місяців тому +11

      Damn, I feel that.

    • @d.w.stratton4078
      @d.w.stratton4078 5 місяців тому +11

      I got an ecological education and agree 100%

    • @Owlfalconfeather
      @Owlfalconfeather 5 місяців тому +6

      thanks for commenting this

    • @chantingzhang
      @chantingzhang 5 місяців тому +11

      I feel the same about historical education.

  • @Speedojesus
    @Speedojesus 5 місяців тому +1030

    I'M HERE, I'M KINDA QUEER BUT NOT FULLY CONCRETE ON HOW I FEEL ABOUT THAT YET, GET USED TO IT

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 5 місяців тому +141

      Gotta stand up for what you probably believe in maybe.

    • @dr.velious5411
      @dr.velious5411 5 місяців тому +120

      WELCOME
      TO THE GENDER ZONEEEEE

    • @channelgogrvk
      @channelgogrvk 5 місяців тому +1

      @@dr.velious5411 gonna take you right into the GENDER ZONE

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 5 місяців тому +66

      ​@@dr.velious5411 High..way to the gender zone🎵🎶

    • @TrashHeapCustodian
      @TrashHeapCustodian 5 місяців тому +11

      HELL YEAH HELL YEAH HELL YEAH 💪💪💪

  • @Lombwolf
    @Lombwolf 5 місяців тому +162

    I want to give praise to the first responders because without them I genuinely would not be alive. During the campfire we evacuated north, we waited so long to the point where as soon as we got on the main road the pet cemetery across the street was engulfed in flames. We made it up to a supermarket in magalia where we decided to seek refuge in the nearby church parking lot because they have good bathroom, we were stuck there all day because we had no gas. Later at night we attempted to leave because there was supposedly a clear route out but we and our convoy had to turn back around on the dam because the road was blocked.
    Soon after that we rushed into the church building and laid on the floor breathing through blankets to avoid the smoke.
    Later during the night we watched the subway across the street burn down and enjoyed the soothing sound of exploding propane tanks.
    Genuinely if it wasn’t for the firefighters keeping the building clear we would have died that night, we were certain that our car would’ve blown up otherwise.
    After that night, early in the morning we drove down to Chico passing by our freshly destroyed town. Mind you I was 10 at this time too.
    FUCK PG&E!
    Thank you guys for making a video about the disaster that changed our communities lives.

    • @Lombwolf
      @Lombwolf 5 місяців тому +23

      Also this is an extremely short summery there are SO many details I’m leaving out. I’d love to write a book some day but the ADHD has my ass rn

    • @russianbear0027
      @russianbear0027 5 місяців тому +3

      Is there anyone that you could dictate it to if that's easier? ​@@Lombwolf

    • @Alevuss92
      @Alevuss92 5 місяців тому +3

      Thank you for sharing your story. I'm sure it's not easy.

    • @SolarFlareAmerica
      @SolarFlareAmerica 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Lombwolf ADHD awareness gang rise up!

    • @hennessy916
      @hennessy916 4 місяці тому

      The church and the rite aid saved and helped so many

  • @smaptie
    @smaptie 5 місяців тому +216

    I was ten miles done the road from this. I woke up for school and headed out for the local community college annex. It was a nice day but way up the ridge there was this little column of smoke rising up. No big deal, we get fires all the time. So about an hour later I'm in class and we are all told we need to go home right now. We all head out of the building and it is now the last days of Pompeii. The sky is pitch black, ash is raining down. The school was right on the evacuation route and we were right next to the Walmart which was now an evacuation center. The road is packed with cars. There were pickups filled with terrified looking people...just totally unreal. No knew what was happening and I was scared out of my mind. I took me four hours to make what usually was a ten minute trip to get home. Once there it was time to start packing because we didn't know where that fire was going. Then we waited for the evac notice. That never came fortunately.
    The disaster just kinda went on for a while. There is the fire and the dead but afterwards its just this slow quiet disaster. People are scattered to the wind, moving to where they can. Chico, Oroville and the surrounding towns really couldn't take everyone in. Prices went up, homelessness went up. Walmart still had tents around it for what seemed months till the city forced them to leave. Place still feel kinda messed up. Kinda sucks that the only thing people really remember out it are Jewish space laser jokes.
    Thanks for doing the video. Can you do Oroville dam almost breaking next?

    • @mlmmt
      @mlmmt 5 місяців тому +14

      I was far enough to not have to worry about the flames, but still close enough that everybody was told to stay inside and keep all windows closed to try and keep the smoke out...

    • @Rhaethyn
      @Rhaethyn 5 місяців тому +19

      I live fairly near boulder, CO, and a couple of years ago, we had a fire that came down the ridge of the mountains nearest to us.
      "Last days of pompeii" is absolutely correct. I was like 5-10 miles away and it was kinda haunting and eerie even at that distance. I can only imagine what it'd be like if you were *in* it.

    • @Sadboy-dy7zj
      @Sadboy-dy7zj 5 місяців тому +14

      i worked the shelter in Orland for this and the dam as well. Ridiculous how poor the response was and the political shitshow around it was a whole other can of worms.

    • @Stephanie-we5ep
      @Stephanie-we5ep 5 місяців тому +19

      Survivor of a similar fire disaster, and it was utter and complete *_hell_* ! Like op, our community will never be the same, so many people just fled and never returned. It's been years and so, so many people still are living in camp trailers.

    • @phoenixdemarino6655
      @phoenixdemarino6655 5 місяців тому +12

      Hey, I'm from Humboldt, we have a fairly large population of refugees from Paradise here.

  • @derpallardie
    @derpallardie 5 місяців тому +49

    Soil scientist here. Can confirm, lots of shit in the dirt. If you knew how much anthrax was in it, you'd never leave the house.

    • @SolarFlareAmerica
      @SolarFlareAmerica 5 місяців тому +3

      Can I eat it?

    • @birdmafia9884
      @birdmafia9884 4 місяці тому +2

      Idk personally, that just makes going outside a little more metal :D

    • @theprojectproject01
      @theprojectproject01 4 місяці тому +1

      like... legit, how much? And how site-dependent is this?

    • @derpallardie
      @derpallardie 4 місяці тому +1

      @@theprojectproject01 The soil surface is the most biodiverse place on the planet. A teaspoon of the stuff can easily contain trillions of organisms, and they all tend to have mechanisms to survive hostile environments by going inactive. You can assume everything is everywhere at all times and you'll generally not be far removed from reality.

    • @theprojectproject01
      @theprojectproject01 4 місяці тому +1

      @@derpallardie ... I need a shower.

  • @TrashHeapCustodian
    @TrashHeapCustodian 5 місяців тому +165

    the thing I like about Liam is that he will go from ranting about how he'll kill you if you insult his mom to telling his good friend November to hydrate so she doesn't get a hangover in the very next breath
    What a guy ♥️

  • @trioptimum9027
    @trioptimum9027 5 місяців тому +21

    My favorite "Mexico is the greatest nation on earth" flex, specially for November, is that they never recognized the Franco regime. Never. From 1939 all the way until the release of Star Wars in 1977, the Second Spanish Republic remained the only recognized government of Spain, in the eyes of Mexico.
    A weird trivia fact: remember when Tommy Smith and John Carlos did a black power salute in the Mexico City Olympics? And the guy that the IOC sent to make sure Hitler wasn't antisemitic got SUPER MAD because unlike the Nazi salute (which he liked), it was "nOt a NaTiOnAl SaLuTe?" Guess what! The last government of Spain recognized in Mexico City, at that time (1968) was the Second Spanish Republic. And what was the customary military salute in the last years of the Second Spanish Republic? That's right, the raised fist.* It was a national salute all along! Fuck you, Avery Brundage!
    *That's where it comes from. That's how it became the Black Power salute: because a lot of the people who were antifascist enough to go fight in Spain came home and were pretty damn anti-racist.

    • @sholem_bond
      @sholem_bond 3 місяці тому +1

      They executed a hereditary monarch (a Hapsburg?) when he tried to become the king of Mexico, I believe. Based.

  • @Kik4s
    @Kik4s 5 місяців тому +166

    I respect restraint to not call the second news item "Britan Trainsphobic"

    • @teslashark
      @teslashark 5 місяців тому

      Transportphobic

    • @MrJimheeren
      @MrJimheeren 5 місяців тому +9

      Even with the downgrade of HS2. Britain still has a lot of trains so I wouldn’t call them scared of trains. The poor trans community though is thoroughly screwed over

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 5 місяців тому +1

      @@MrJimheerenbritain has a lot of trans people too and yet its pretty damn transphobic

    • @tobyriding3231
      @tobyriding3231 5 місяців тому

      @@MrJimheeren oh no we are totally transphobic too, the treasury would get rid of the trains in an instant if given half a chance as a 'cost saving measure'

    • @MrJimheeren
      @MrJimheeren 5 місяців тому

      @@tobyriding3231 vote Labour, Starmer might be boring, he’s fairly competent in everything he ever did

  • @SkyeFergus
    @SkyeFergus 5 місяців тому +83

    I love when Devon chimes in via the editing.

    • @Dong_Harvey
      @Dong_Harvey 5 місяців тому +1

      knowing that Devon is on the right side of space is also a great blast of psyco-dopamine.

    • @SkyeFergus
      @SkyeFergus 5 місяців тому

      @@Dong_Harvey Yes! That too!
      Devon is our special secret 4th host ✨️

  • @kodiakbricks5821
    @kodiakbricks5821 5 місяців тому +60

    To your credit, November, as a bear, I do wear a .308 rated plate carrier for work

  • @coled555
    @coled555 5 місяців тому +19

    I think this has gotta be one of my favorite WTYP episodes ever
    Kevin woke up today and chose violence and I'm here for it

  • @dragonmarnix
    @dragonmarnix 5 місяців тому +116

    wow i love camping! can't wait to see an entire episode about camping. time to take a big sip of coffee and click on this video

  • @JuneNafziger
    @JuneNafziger 5 місяців тому +29

    I have previously created an “I hate Smokey the bear” sticker for my friend who very much understands how fires are important.

  • @raycearcher5794
    @raycearcher5794 5 місяців тому +56

    Hear me out: the bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Forestry

  • @a.p.2356
    @a.p.2356 5 місяців тому +38

    When my grandpa got out of the Air Force in the 50's (he had narrowly avoided being sent to Korea), he got a job doing fire bombing. Essentially all of the planes in fire fighting service in that era were converted WWII military planes of various shapes and sizes, so he got to fly a of insanely cool shit, like B25's, B26's, and even F7F Tigercats.
    Eventually my grandma got pregnant with my aunt and she basically told him "I am not raising our children alone after you inevitably turn yourself into a smoking hole in a mountainside" and he pursued a much less insane career in the airlines.

  • @aidanwarren4980
    @aidanwarren4980 5 місяців тому +75

    I anticipate with pleasing expectation the Well There's Your Problem toxic polycule house

    • @lukisprieston477
      @lukisprieston477 5 місяців тому +22

      The video essay breaking it down in 5 years' time is gonna be fire

    • @AbsolXGuardian
      @AbsolXGuardian 5 місяців тому +11

      Alice, Alice's girlfriends, and Justin and Liam (they're just there)

    • @maybemablemaples2144
      @maybemablemaples2144 5 місяців тому +17

      ​@@AbsolXGuardian *Nova

    • @AbsolXGuardian
      @AbsolXGuardian 5 місяців тому

      @@maybemablemaples2144 FUCK

  • @colonelgraff9198
    @colonelgraff9198 5 місяців тому +178

    Ah yes the campfire rule: The older or more experienced partner has the responsibility to leave the younger or less experienced partner in at least as good a state (emotionally and physically) as before the relationship.

    • @ThePlayerOfGames
      @ThePlayerOfGames 5 місяців тому +4

      Isn't this also girlfriend rule?
      The girlfriend's job is to mould a "man" for the next "woman" until they eventually reach the standard to be a husband
      Ultimate "Planting trees you will never sleep under" strategy ✊

  • @lukeman9851
    @lukeman9851 5 місяців тому +20

    1:13:50 Devon, now THERE'S an alternate history story I'd like to read!
    "What if the Nazis had-?" BZZZT, wrong.
    "What if the Caliphate of Cordoba had reached the Americas?" Now we're talking

  • @mercury4885
    @mercury4885 5 місяців тому +41

    dear WTYP: i love the podcast and mean no disrespect to devon's wonderful editing work when i say i would kill for the unedited full length recordings once in a while. i listen to the pod while i clean & do hobbies, and i adore the longer episodes especially. thank you for another banger & all the time, research, coordination, and emotional labor it takes to deal with these disasters in factual and empathetic terms. you're all gems. ❤

    • @SethPowell7
      @SethPowell7 5 місяців тому +1

      Agreed, I miss the Justin editing days for the light touch editing and free for all tangents. Plus, no one listens to this podcast for the host’s conciseness so what’s the need to remove anything beyond dead air breaks?

  • @comhalain
    @comhalain 5 місяців тому +199

    Hey Devon, I'm fine with the hitmarker sound. If I'm just listening to the podcast while working with dangerous chemicals, it is soft enough to make me look at the screen and read what you're writing. Thank you.

    • @TSZatoichi
      @TSZatoichi 5 місяців тому +34

      ^ This, minus the dangerous chemicals.

    • @LordAJ12345
      @LordAJ12345 5 місяців тому +52

      The hitmarker is great, I don’t want to miss Devon’s comments!

    • @Saltybitch659
      @Saltybitch659 5 місяців тому +38

      Sometimes when I catch a silent one, I feel like I've found an easter egg 😂

    • @TheRealPfhreak
      @TheRealPfhreak 5 місяців тому +21

      A sound is useful, but the specific sound chosen is an accessibility issue for some people with autism spectrum disorders or misophonia.
      It would be great to have a lower, rounder sound to mark out Devon's comments.

    • @SethPowell7
      @SethPowell7 5 місяців тому +17

      @@TheRealPfhreak I’m a live audio engineer and it triggers me because it sounds like someone unplugging their instrument cable without muting or other connection issue resulting in a pop. I jump or cringe every time.

  • @devinfaux6987
    @devinfaux6987 5 місяців тому +44

    First 60 seconds: "Assume a spherical podcast of uniform density."

  • @TheRandomAustralian
    @TheRandomAustralian 5 місяців тому +27

    50:45 A former Australian Prime Minister once said "we could not possibly have destroyed the topsoil of this continent better if we had deliberately set out to do it"

  • @elkippy
    @elkippy 5 місяців тому +8

    It gets progressively funnier every time the guest brings the podcast back on topic, and it was pretty funny the first time, lol

  • @type6
    @type6 5 місяців тому +104

    Can confirm. ND has got six trees. Their names are Petunia, Archibald, Isaac, Old Hickory, Sam, and Isabelle.

    • @evanmorris2420
      @evanmorris2420 5 місяців тому +18

      Our 3 trees in Kansas can beat up your 6 trees.

    • @Man2quilla
      @Man2quilla 5 місяців тому +9

      Old Hickory? Canceled.

    • @aft3rbrn3r
      @aft3rbrn3r 5 місяців тому +3

      I mean, there's at least a dozen in Medora, that may have been the number for the rest of the state though.

    • @ebnertra0004
      @ebnertra0004 5 місяців тому +7

      I was always under the impression that ND had a State Tree(TM). It was the only one in the state, and when the farmer whose yard it was in got tired of it and cut it down (this is actually illegal, as the State Tree(TM) is protected, but that law is never really enforced), a new tree had to be planted elsewhere at once

    • @goopah
      @goopah 5 місяців тому +6

      @@ebnertra0004 Yeah, it's right here in Bismarck. I have been assigned to protect it. I nearly killed it by peeing on it once. Yes I am a cat. To the left is my Official Tree Guard ID photo. I shall dutifully protect that tree with 8 of my lives. The 9th I'm saving for retirement.

  • @undeadishbill
    @undeadishbill 5 місяців тому +61

    I used to live south of the Camp fire, and recent transplants would complain about the smoke from the trees. And I would remind them, "And smoke from the electronics. And the vehicles. And the people, don't forget you are breathing those in as well."

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 5 місяців тому +8

      The taste of burnt people in the air...

    • @kjj26k
      @kjj26k 4 місяці тому

      ​@@grmpEqweer
      Something uniquely mentally sticky about that thought.
      I acquired it when first learning in-depth about the Pearl Harbor Attack.

  • @Aceedius
    @Aceedius 5 місяців тому +12

    Nova's tangent about how gas company people speak among themselves reminded me of the most baffling set of advertisements I've ever seen. I don't know if this is an international campaign, but at least in Sweden, Shell has been putting out ads featuring like a 4 year old kid and a text saying when that kid is an adult, "we should have finished pivoting to renewable". That's the best way I can translate the passivity of the phrasing, it's not even "we will" or "we promise to". Just that far enough in the future that they can safely bet on no one keeping track, Shell having left fossil fuels behind would be kind of neat.
    That's something you'd come up with and greenlight for an ad only by being exasperated with the thought of even pretending to be open to change. Just in case anyone wanted more reasons why we absolutely need to unspecified action these people with a katana.

  • @hisdudeness2055
    @hisdudeness2055 5 місяців тому +9

    New favorite hypothetical job title: Conservation Door Gunner.

  • @codychamberlin5334
    @codychamberlin5334 5 місяців тому +23

    I HAVE IMPORTANT TREE DETAILS!!!!!!
    Douglas fir, once mature, is actually an extremely fire tolerant species. Young interior douglas fir are susceptible to fire in the context of these western forests, but further northwest they grow amongst other trees that are not fire tolerant even when mature. Because of this they become massive veterans in forests of hemlock and spruce that do burn each fire cycle. He's not wrong, but dont count out my boy Dougie in the fire tolerance game!

  • @efence5307
    @efence5307 5 місяців тому +41

    I was in Chico when the camp fire started. When I saw the pillar of smoke at first I was like “damn that a weird ass cloud.” It was until I was waiting for one of my classes to start, when a giant piece of ash landed smack in the middle of my phone screen when I was like “oh shit that’s not good.” While the school waited until almost the end of the day to suspend classes, and even longer to cancel classes the following, they thankfully did, and I got my ass out of there. While I was totally fine and was not in any serious danger myself, I still saw the fire on top of a ridge on my way out. That shit was scary
    Also I don’t think they mentioned it, but most people who got payouts had to fight for YEARS to get them. I wouldn’t be surprised if they still are tbh. And it’s also almost impossible to get fire insurance in California now if you live in a remotely fire prone area. The insurance companies will just tell you no.
    I cannot tell you how maddening it is to live in a state I love so much, and just refuses to hold PG&E accountable in ANY way.

    • @nathaniellindner313
      @nathaniellindner313 5 місяців тому +2

      I was in Stockton. That hideous color! And the smell, like a dirty wood fire. Got to the point where you didn’t want to breathe outside very quickly. It was clear something was wrong long before it hit the news.

  • @conors4430
    @conors4430 5 місяців тому +28

    I live in Sydney, during the Black summer bushfires in 2019 and 2020, the amount of particles you were inhaling just walking down. The street was insane. And the closest fire to me was probably 20 or more kilometres away. But a couple of the fires merged and I believe the latest estimation is that it burnt the equivalent size of Bulgaria. Ironically people were talking about how to get their hands on facemasks, and two months later what would you know, the old spicy cough rolled in into town. The universe is ironic. Oh, and then the federal government porkbarrel disaster funding to marginal areas that might vote for them in the upcoming federal election and almost entirely stiffed areas that never vote for them, you know, because we are all one big family and we don’t leave anybody behind and all that bullshit.

    • @Desi-qw9fc
      @Desi-qw9fc 4 місяці тому +1

      The bushfire recovery funding gave a small pot of money for ecological research, some nice blue-sky stuff that we never would have gotten afterwards, and which was important to know. They didn’t renew it the next year, of course.

  • @Lombwolf
    @Lombwolf 5 місяців тому +17

    MY HOUSE BURNED DOWN AND I EXPERIENCED LIFE LONG TRAUMA FROM THIS, I CANT BELIEVE YOU MADE A VIDEO ABOUT THIS RAHHHHHHH

  • @thomaspalazzolo5902
    @thomaspalazzolo5902 5 місяців тому +10

    Dip Santa: He's packin' his lip, chewin' it twice...

  • @thequiethylian
    @thequiethylian 5 місяців тому +95

    Who's complaining about the hitmarker sound? I think it's perfect. It lets me know when Devon chimes in when I have the video on my second monitor.

    • @TheRealPfhreak
      @TheRealPfhreak 5 місяців тому +19

      People with misophonia and autism spectrum disorders that have sensory processing issues. The sharp hiss of the hit marker can cause significant impacts to people. Changing to a different tone, or sound, would allow Devon to still mark the moment but not cause anxiety or discomfort for listeners with sensory differences.

    • @thequiethylian
      @thequiethylian 5 місяців тому +11

      @@TheRealPfhreak I did not know that. Learned something new.

    • @TheRealPfhreak
      @TheRealPfhreak 5 місяців тому +9

      Glad! I'm trying to be a voice of, "firm but educational". Many folks aren't aware, through no fault of their own!

    • @_DeeAyePee
      @_DeeAyePee 5 місяців тому +9

      ​@@TheRealPfhreak thank you for explaining it so clearly... Everytime I hear it, I think my audio has cut out for some reason. I've grown to appreciate it but it was jarring at first not having known what it was from initially.

    • @jameshealy4594
      @jameshealy4594 5 місяців тому +11

      ​@@TheRealPfhreakI appreciate your perspective, I also have autism and audio processing issues, just different ones apparently - it has never bothered me but I will redrum anyone I can hear eating in a video so I can relate. As long as the sound doesn't change to something other people (me, alright? I mean me 😅) struggle with in turn I think it would be nice to change it.

  • @Lepo4256
    @Lepo4256 5 місяців тому +30

    The guests in this podcast are always great. But Kevin is really elite.
    Is field of expertise is so fascinating, could listen to him knowledge dump for hours.

    • @reneewood8221
      @reneewood8221 5 місяців тому +3

      he could probably talk about something he has no knowledge of and I would still listen to him chat for hours. he is very engaging!!

    • @magesalmanac6424
      @magesalmanac6424 5 місяців тому

      He was annoying tho. “Oh I don’t have time for games, I’m writing a book.” Bragging is not an endearing trait.

    • @magesalmanac6424
      @magesalmanac6424 5 місяців тому

      And the way he talks about his alcohol was stuck up. I want more guests who are down to earth, not obnoxious elitists

  • @alistairsmj1602
    @alistairsmj1602 5 місяців тому +31

    Can confirm, this episode is a top tier example of what it's like sitting around a campfire with your friends drunk.

  • @sporkfrizz
    @sporkfrizz 5 місяців тому +26

    The late Mike Davis wrote my favorite essay titled "The Case for Letting Malibu Burn" which recapitulates this episode through a deeper dive into Southern California and wildfire.

  • @TheGunboat
    @TheGunboat 5 місяців тому +20

    This is all an elaborate distraction from the true culprit; Liam accidentally scraping parts of the West Coast with the Jewish Space Laser while on a drunken stupor

  • @GaldirEonai
    @GaldirEonai 5 місяців тому +36

    That logger from Kevin's story must have been 90% nicotine by mass.

    • @warmachine5835
      @warmachine5835 5 місяців тому +3

      By the time Safety Third was over, Nova was 90% alcohol by volume.

  • @mrpieceofwork
    @mrpieceofwork 5 місяців тому +20

    "Did the hacienda system go anywhere?" Yes, and that place is known as "California", (and I suppose much of the deep south and SW and west of the US), where most of the land was "bought" from that very system, the massive "land holdings" of the descendants of that Spanish conquistador project... and, AFAIK, there are still large portions of CA that is "owned" by the legacy of it. Oh, and also, the missions... almost all of the coastal towns and cities, and some far inland, were mission projects first... all those cities famously having Spanish names.

  • @kaiserschnitzel89
    @kaiserschnitzel89 5 місяців тому +11

    1:43:05 "so this is called a 'helitorch.' This is one way to light - " "I'm sorry - what? OH LOOK AT IT!!!"

  • @_oe_o_e_
    @_oe_o_e_ 5 місяців тому +246

    A PROPER 3 hr episode

    • @Quackagate
      @Quackagate 5 місяців тому +11

      In the words of Liam. O I'm pointy

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 5 місяців тому +4

      Is 3:05:16 _really_ a 3-hour pod, or are they just padding for that youtube ad cost break?

    • @ThePyrolith
      @ThePyrolith 5 місяців тому +4

      Hell yeah! I know some people like the shorter episodes that stick to the script, but I love the longer WTYP episodes

    • @jakx2ob
      @jakx2ob 5 місяців тому +2

      I was promised 4:30 though

    • @thompkins6796
      @thompkins6796 5 місяців тому +2

      I remember when the local podcaster was 'ard and dropped three hour episodes weekly.

  • @xymaryai8283
    @xymaryai8283 5 місяців тому +144

    i like that Nova and Liam argue in the opening so that i can remember November's nickname is Nova and thats cool

    • @TrashHeapCustodian
      @TrashHeapCustodian 5 місяців тому +13

      A couple times on KJB Abi has called her "Vem" and honestly I'm disappointed in my parents for giving me a name that doesn't have two nicknames that cool built in to it

    • @fudgesticklebear
      @fudgesticklebear 5 місяців тому +12

      @@TrashHeapCustodian I knew a girl with the name Raven and she said her parents chose Raven because they thought it would be a cool name. They were right lol.

    • @EmyrDerfel
      @EmyrDerfel 5 місяців тому +9

      ​@@TrashHeapCustodian 3 if you count Ember which is apt this week.

    • @Aevintyra
      @Aevintyra 5 місяців тому +4

      Wait, November Kelly and now Nova?! Leave some cool names for the rest of us!

  • @ik911only
    @ik911only 5 місяців тому +23

    What's really weird about Neom is that they did start groundwork and excavations along the full length of the line. You can see it on aerial Maps. Now they commit to just 1%?

    • @BarackLesnar
      @BarackLesnar 5 місяців тому +8

      That's hilarious

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 5 місяців тому +7

      Tbf its the same shit I do when building sandcastles, start out with a grand plan and in the end just build 1% of it.

  • @alexclark7473
    @alexclark7473 5 місяців тому +68

    Trough full of slop, slurping ensues

  • @fuzzydunlop7928
    @fuzzydunlop7928 5 місяців тому +27

    It's wild that you're covering this. I've been on such an extreme weather/natural disaster kick lately. Just watched a weatherbox video about this exact subject yesterday. EDIT: If you factor in anthropogenic climate change, you can view all recent natural disasters as engineered disasters.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 5 місяців тому +9

      Remember, climate change is mostly brought to you by rich people, who run the world, but can't seem to plan for the future effectively.

    • @maybemablemaples2144
      @maybemablemaples2144 5 місяців тому

      ​@grmpEqweer no they have, but it doesn't involve us. That's why they want AI to work so bad. They don't want to take us poors into space with them because they know we'll mutiny in a hot second.

  • @beanieweenietapioca
    @beanieweenietapioca 5 місяців тому +21

    I had a summer job on a Fish &Wildlife Service fire crew. According to the old hands who trained us, it isn't a fire triangle, but a fire SQUARE.
    Heat, fuel, oxygen, and overtime. Take away one, and the fire goes out.

  • @CasualSnake_D2
    @CasualSnake_D2 5 місяців тому +77

    Absolutely distraught that Devon removed multiple tangents from this episode, Give us the Tapes! Directors Cut!

    • @ubermenschen01
      @ubermenschen01 5 місяців тому +22

      GIVE US THE LIAM CUT

    • @WaterMan416
      @WaterMan416 5 місяців тому +20

      Needs it's own episode, whoops, all tangents

    • @MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot
      @MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot 5 місяців тому +16

      #ReleaseTheLiamCut

    • @sakurakiyori
      @sakurakiyori 5 місяців тому

      @@ubermenschen01 I want to hear all the threats!
      Liam has an artistry with them, and I would like to appreciate them from a respectful distance!

  • @lazyman556
    @lazyman556 5 місяців тому +33

    Ok so we have established that for Roz to laugh like the Joker you have to kill a load bearing Supreme Court Justice, but to make Liam laugh like the Joker you just have to talk about the New Deal with food in your mouth. Requirements for November to Joker laugh are yet to be determined.

    • @sQuibleable
      @sQuibleable 4 місяці тому +1

      I fucking love the phrase “load bearing Supreme Court Justice”

  • @Tassalat42
    @Tassalat42 5 місяців тому +17

    OHHH THAT FIRE! I didn't realize till the slide at 2:01:40 showed Paradise that this was the fire y'all were talking about. I was in Sacramento when this went down and I remember everyone at work calling it the Paradise Fire. I guess the town burning down and people having to flee was the bit that stuck the most in everyones mind at the time. I think the Goodwill I was working at did a thing where you could round up your change or add a dollar onto your total and they'd donate it to the victims of the fire? Knowing Goodwill though they probably only did it to get a tax write off that'd have good PR. Absolutely fucked and evil corporation masquerading as a charity...
    My most distinct memory of that time was having to wear an N-95 mask at the bus stop. The sky was so thick with smoke that you could look directly at the sun, a perfectly flat red circle hanging in a smoke brown sky. Felt like being on an alien planet.

  • @FreeEduardGrigoriann
    @FreeEduardGrigoriann 5 місяців тому +33

    When Devon is finally broken before the halfway point-*chef’s kiss*

  • @OrinLinwe
    @OrinLinwe 5 місяців тому +22

    ..."The Line" was always the city-planning equivalent of confiscating your elderly parent's car-keys (and possibly their wallet as well).

  • @dogsoccerpie
    @dogsoccerpie 5 місяців тому +30

    “You have to masticate and do hand stuff”
    Flashbacks to middle school health class.

  • @ScorpiosAlpha
    @ScorpiosAlpha 5 місяців тому +35

    oh boy we get to talk about my home state's horrible annual tradition

  • @darthbob88
    @darthbob88 5 місяців тому +52

    7:00 I'm with November, Devon, and Kevin. I refuse to drink a beer more bitter than I am.

    • @RooneyMac
      @RooneyMac 5 місяців тому

      Ever tried Arrogant Bastard?

    • @huckthatdish
      @huckthatdish 5 місяців тому +8

      Brewmasters have not yet succeeded in achieving that for me

    • @aft3rbrn3r
      @aft3rbrn3r 5 місяців тому +1

      I agree with your statement but I drink strong IPAs...

    • @darthbob88
      @darthbob88 5 місяців тому +1

      @@aft3rbrn3r You have my condolences.

    • @RooneyMac
      @RooneyMac 5 місяців тому

      Have you tried Arrogant Bastard

  • @corneliuseisenheim3824
    @corneliuseisenheim3824 5 місяців тому +7

    Kevin the Forester that has beef with half of nature is a fantastic DnD character idea.

  • @lazyidiotofthemonth
    @lazyidiotofthemonth 5 місяців тому +3

    The Department of Energy has an Elite Taskforce that defends Nuclear Reactors, they basically go after former Special Ops personel, its actually pretty funny watching a bunch of 40 and 50 year old men with completely fucked knees patrol a Reactor site with Uzis and M4s. Its basically the easiest 80 grand a year veterans with no civillians skills can get.

  • @rwrunning1813
    @rwrunning1813 5 місяців тому +4

    2:49:29 Rocz and November saying they couldn't have prevented the fires is how you can tell they were paying attention

  • @ThePopopotatoes
    @ThePopopotatoes 5 місяців тому +5

    In Arkansas controlled burns were just part of life. I remember seeing them and being told by relatives what they are and why they're done as a child. I haven't seen one since moving but that doesn't mean they don't do them in my current state. There's just a lot less state/fed land where I'm at now so I'm less likely to see them.
    I've also learned that other states do not enforce nature related laws as harshly as where I'm from. I always follow game and fish rules because back home they will fuck your shit up. Core of Engineers and State parks too. There's a lot of officers for that too, so you'll actually get checked for licenses and stuff relatively frequently. My friends here in MO didn't get it until they visited and went fishing and we got checked for licenses. They didn't want to buy one even though a 3 day was cheap at Walmart. I made them and they thanked me later lol

  • @ajjaran
    @ajjaran 5 місяців тому +29

    We really need to get Devon, like, squirt-bottle drones to keep our beloved podcasters on track, for their own sanity if nothing else.

    • @SethPowell7
      @SethPowell7 5 місяців тому +1

      Disagree, the episode lengths would be cut in half or more if they stayed on track, and goes against the entire brand of this pod.

    • @roecocoa
      @roecocoa 5 місяців тому +2

      I like this idea only because it will surely backfire, as each spritz brings our beloved podcasters even further off track.

    • @TuesdaysArt
      @TuesdaysArt 5 місяців тому +2

      Ooo, an extra five minutes added to every tangent to complain about the squirt bottle drones

  • @DidThatHelp
    @DidThatHelp 5 місяців тому +4

    need a super cut of every time Kevin says "we'll get to that"

  • @kelath5555
    @kelath5555 5 місяців тому +13

    32:00 Devon doing his very best to corral this herd of cats, but it's with novelty sticky hands, on the other side of a plexiglass sheet, with a time delay. Thank you for all you do, Devon.

  • @rodakscreens
    @rodakscreens 5 місяців тому +3

    "There's nuance which is the problem" is a quote thats gonna stick with me for the rest of my life

  • @Praisethesunson
    @Praisethesunson 5 місяців тому +93

    Fun fact. About 25% of California's housing stock is built directly along wildfire paths.
    So yeah. It's going to be a rough century for Californians.

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 5 місяців тому +23

      I get frustrated that houses in wildfire areas aren't built out of crap that won't burn.
      ...I get frustrated here that houses aren't built to withstand tornadoes.
      We usually have at least one somewhere in the county about 1-3 times a year. Little ones, so houses COULD be built to withstand them.
      ...Grrr.

    • @alexroselle
      @alexroselle 5 місяців тому +9

      Damn, maybe the forest service SHOULD be assigned to HUD then

    • @AbsolXGuardian
      @AbsolXGuardian 5 місяців тому +9

      ​@@grmpEqweerUnfortunately houses that don't burn are houses that fall over easily in earthquakes.

    • @Leigh-says-stuff
      @Leigh-says-stuff 5 місяців тому +6

      @@grmpEqweerI will say that it’s very hard for any structure to survive a direct hit by a tornado. Also their damage path is *usually* very small. They’re lower overall risk than things like fire or flood, where it’s ‘everything in this general area is fucked’

    • @henriquepacheco7473
      @henriquepacheco7473 5 місяців тому +1

      @@AbsolXGuardian build a house out of a geode, those fuckers eat earthquakes without getting their internal cavities disrupted all the time

  • @transtreenerd
    @transtreenerd 5 місяців тому +6

    Just got home from studying forestry to this excellent episode, thanks you!

  • @rebeccajohnston-carter2792
    @rebeccajohnston-carter2792 4 місяці тому +2

    When the Camp Fire happened it was my first year working as a public high school teacher. I was teaching in Hayward, CA which is basically part of Oakland. By car it's ~180 miles from Paradise. The smoke from the Camp Fire was so bad in the San Fransisco Bay area that the school I was working at went into a modified lockdown procedure to keep kids indoors, passed out N-95 masks to the staff & ended up canceling school on the Friday before Thanksgiving.
    I've always been prone to "seasonal" asthma (with the season being Fire, because CA has three seasons - wet, dry & fire) so I was basically having a continuous asthma attack for ~ 1 & 1/2 weeks. It only cleared up when I went down to San Luis Obispo CA for Thanksgiving break at my mother's house. Upon arrival I collapsed into bed and slept for basically an entire day. During that time I was apparently coughing & hacking up gunk so badly in my sleep that my mother apparently almost called 911 before my siblings talking her down. When the asthma attack finally ended about 2 days into my stay at my mom's I'd lost the ability to speak above a whisper and didn't regain my volume until Christmas.

  • @gaaa28
    @gaaa28 5 місяців тому +5

    12:38 Karl Marx Hof is the longest residential building in Europe but I think the biggest might be Falowiec (The Waveform) in Poland. It’s like 800m long but I think it’s taller than Karl Marx Hof. It’s in my hometown of Gdańsk and I was always very fond of it, although I’ve heard it’s not very pleasant to live in.

  • @marcuswalters8093
    @marcuswalters8093 5 місяців тому +66

    3 hours on campfires?
    Oh, okay then.
    1:45 I agree with November. If you're gonna smoke, smoke like a *grown up.*

  • @benrampolla1415
    @benrampolla1415 5 місяців тому +7

    I hope this isnt the last time Kevins on the podcast both his episodes are some of the best imo. Either way thanks Kevin

  • @zyavoosvawleilte1308
    @zyavoosvawleilte1308 5 місяців тому +20

    My favourite thing about fires where I live is we still have unexploded ordnance from the civil war in some forests so you can become a very delayed casualty

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 5 місяців тому +4

      I read somewhere that WW1 munitions sprinkled all over Europe, are becoming less stable over time.
      Wonder if that's true for loaded cannonballs.
      In other news: Recently, a street construction crew in my city found an unloaded cannonball...by drilling a jackhammer into it.

    • @AbsolXGuardian
      @AbsolXGuardian 5 місяців тому +5

      ​@@grmpEqweer"there are bombs in the woods" might go part of the way to justifying the fear of forest fires in Europe described in the episode. Kinda hard to do a controlled fire when a bomb exploding makes it rapidly uncontrolled

    • @asamushroomcloud
      @asamushroomcloud 5 місяців тому +4

      every now and then some old timey confederate soldier gets a little +1 notification popup in the loser section of hell

  • @galelululu
    @galelululu 5 місяців тому +10

    Big fan of the forestry episodes. An incredibly important ecological force and industry that so few of us know or care about. Please have Kevin or whoever back on

  • @Vio818
    @Vio818 5 місяців тому +6

    Halfway through the 15min catholic church internal doctrinal disputes I fully forgot what this podcast was about. I fucking love this so god damn much.

  • @gagenater
    @gagenater 5 місяців тому +9

    My dad's uncle worked for the California forest service/prison system as a guard for convict fire crews. At least according to him, most of the guys loved it - in fact it was a highly competitive position, that convicts had to earn the right to go and do through good behaviour and proving themselves capable of doing the work and finishing the training program. If you are an able bodied prisoner who likes the outdoors, it's kind of a perfect work program - low supervision, out in the woods, the food is better than normal, people actually appreciate the work you are doing, you work side by side with paid firefighters as an equal, and most of them get a real pride in doing something genuinely helpful. Plus if you are stuck in a prison cell 24/7 this is an awesome escape.

  • @sunyavadin
    @sunyavadin 5 місяців тому +5

    I am pretty sure that describes NHS GIC services TBH. They force you to go through the Kobayashi-Maru to determine if you get access to care.

  • @Teslin1212
    @Teslin1212 5 місяців тому +3

    My dad used to manage a forest fire fighting base up in Northern Canada back when I was a kid and seeing all these slides with fire fighting equipment has me sooo giddy, absolutely love the podcast and am gonna have to try and convince my dad to watch this one

  • @c.djinmyr
    @c.djinmyr 5 місяців тому +6

    Yeah, Cass review gave me a pretty bad day too. I recall reading that person was also involved with the don't say gay bill in Florida.
    From one Trans gal to another, cheers Nova 🫂🥂

  • @Eli_Haber
    @Eli_Haber 5 місяців тому +7

    Pedantic correction incoming! For context, I am a former employee of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, the federal facility that was taken over by the Bundys in 2016. (I did not work there at the time of the occupation).
    At 1:51:31, Kevin conflates two separate confrontations with federal law enforcement that the Bundy family was involved in. In 2014, they had an armed standoff with BLM law enforcement on public land near their own ranch in southern Nevada, intending to stop the roundup of cattle they were illegally grazing there. While no shots were fired, the BLM backed off and continue (to this day!) to allow Ammon Bundy to range his cattle on public land free of charge.
    Two years later, the Bundys rallied the same group of militia types to support the Hammond family, another Mormon ranch family in eastern Oregon who were having a similar conflict with the DOI over grazing rights. They occupied the Malheur NWR for about a month, until the whole thing fell apart following a shootout with law enforcement at a road block, in which a Bundy associate was shot and killed.
    I don't have too many stories about the occupation since I only worked there for a summer a few years later, but I did live in the same bunkhouse where most of the occupiers stayed. The whole interior had to be gutted and remade because of how badly they trashed the place- punched holes in the walls, took shits everywhere, etc.

  • @liger04
    @liger04 5 місяців тому +3

    39:25 If you haven't read it yet, Nate the Snake is a good longform joke. First result when you google its title. It's easy to trim down, or you can force someone to suffer through the whole version. 10/10 would make my family think less of me again

    • @grmpEqweer
      @grmpEqweer 5 місяців тому +2

      That was... horrible. And funny.

  • @samiyarossini
    @samiyarossini 5 місяців тому +96

    I'm complaining about Devon's noise just so it can be the WhatsApp sound.

    • @bookcat123
      @bookcat123 5 місяців тому +4

      Nooooo 🤣

    • @cbcbmad
      @cbcbmad 5 місяців тому +6

      Yeeeaaahhh 😂

    • @spofet
      @spofet 5 місяців тому +1

      Gonna get so triggered next episode

    • @Trekpanther
      @Trekpanther 5 місяців тому +5

      Also, would like to petition for it to be the AIM startup noise

    • @lydiakelly6958
      @lydiakelly6958 5 місяців тому +11

      petition to make the noise a grindr ping instead

  • @littleladytoge5306
    @littleladytoge5306 5 місяців тому +2

    This podcast has the energy of a math class that constantly gets interrupted and that's best thing ever.

  • @digger4400
    @digger4400 5 місяців тому +4

    For Devin, I for one enjoy listening to them ramble on, and I fully appreciate the hitmarkers being back, as someone who listens while I work.
    For Liam, you are a good ally, and make this transfemme less miserable
    for the the talent, Keep going off on rambly tangents, I like 'em.

  • @KanyonOberg
    @KanyonOberg 4 місяці тому +1

    To Devon, I'll always appreciate the notes.I mostly listen audio only at work, but when I listen at home I like them a lot

  • @darastrixmaekrix
    @darastrixmaekrix 5 місяців тому +13

    Devon I really appreciate the hitmarker noise. While I do watch the show here primarily, my phone is usually sitting in my pocket. That noise, and Justin saying "Next slide please," are my cues to go check the video and it's a lifesaver.

  • @molliemicrobe
    @molliemicrobe 5 місяців тому +15

    I haven't got a chance to watch this yet because I'm at work (and will be for another 10 hours), but this is probably the most closely I've ever been affected by one of your disasters. The summer camp I went to as a child burned down in the Tubbs fire the year before, along with the homes of a bunch of friends and acquaintances. I'll probably edit this comment after I watch the video, but thanks for covering this - I've thought for a while that it would make for a great episode. It really left a huge scar on the psyche of the whole Bay Area. And of course, it left all of us with a deep hatred of PG&E. Their exectutives should go grab a power line with both hands

    • @RooneyMac
      @RooneyMac 5 місяців тому +3

      Different state here but feel the same for the electrical monopoly here.
      But the one thing that's convenient about it is the name Evergy. Very easy to call it Effigy!

  • @korivakvehiclesims3341
    @korivakvehiclesims3341 5 місяців тому +5

    34:36 This is just for engagement; have a good day! (Yay, Liam!)

  • @newportbot7709
    @newportbot7709 5 місяців тому +36

    wake up babe, new cataclysmic horror just dropped

  • @Man2quilla
    @Man2quilla 5 місяців тому +29

    Fuck yes, a 3 hour episode 4 hours before I go to work.

  • @911yrhse
    @911yrhse 5 місяців тому +2

    the heat dome is what you get from your partner while watching michael mann's 1995 opus

  • @storeswallah
    @storeswallah 5 місяців тому +4

    I am very happy to report that the Martin Mars water bomber "Hawaii" has just been earmarked for preservation at my local air museum; appropriate, as it often operated on Vancouver Island, and I was lucky to see it several times over the years as it skimmed Sproat Lake to fill its huge tank.

  • @joshkarpoff3341
    @joshkarpoff3341 5 місяців тому +5

    Firefighter cancer is actually a huge problem, that is well known, but poorly understood problem. The Fire Service in the US is currently on a big push to reduce the very high rates of cancer among its members. Probable causes are: 1) increased prevelence of petrochemical plastics in modern buildings and furnishings, that off gas horrible carcinogens. 2) Those carcinogens building up in the personal protective equipment and clothing of firefighters 3) the use of PFAS and PFOS compounds in firefighting foam, which are known to cause cancer 4) the use of PFAS and PFOS compounds in firefighter PPE, which when heated and wet, can more easily be absorbed through the skin. 5) The family members, including children, of firefighters are far more likely to have nasty forms of cancers known primarily to the fire service. 6) For decades, many firefighters thought it was really cool to not wash their gear, as a way of demonstrating to their peers how many fires they'd been in.

  • @Rhaethyn
    @Rhaethyn 5 місяців тому +40

    👀 Ooh. Real early.
    Anyways, I again request an ep on Action Park and its (lack of) engineering.
    Do it for the pun. Engineering disasters with slides.

    • @AbsolXGuardian
      @AbsolXGuardian 5 місяців тому +5

      Imagine if they could get Kevin Perjurer

    • @gtgibb
      @gtgibb 5 місяців тому

      The Citation Needed episode on ActionPark is worth listening to if you haven't yet.

  • @ebrmarauder256
    @ebrmarauder256 5 місяців тому +2

    November is correct about the black paratroopers. The 555th parachute infantry battalion who were trained in smokejumping by quakers. They had the first smokejumper to die from a parachute malfunction.