Ranking The Best Roguelike Games
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- Опубліковано 29 гру 2019
- All of these games are great, and if somehow you haven't heard of them, you should definitely check them out! Apart from that, let's have some fun. Do you agree or disagree with my rankings?
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Haven't watched it yet but how dare you?
I can't believe egg made a misplay on a tier list
Some of these games took some bad damage
cuz NL is cool and you're not? That's how dare he
top 10 Video game betray
after 1500 episode
My feelings exactly bro bro 😈
This is the culmination of what the past ten years of the NL Cinematic Universe has been leading up to.
It was inevitable and ended in a snap?
We are in the endgame.
Something something most ambitious crossover.
This tier list has been real quiet since Repentance drop.
Isaac stays at the top of A tier with repentance. Expansions aren’t going to make THAT big of a difference but YES ISAAC IS AMAZING!
@@tbone8358 repentance completely changed isaac tho
@@jojobod no, it made it a lot better but that doesn’t move it up a tier.
Not even a mention of Risk of Rain 1 or 2?
CRYPT OF THE NECRODANCER??
SAME
late but i agree
He was only ranking games he played a decent amount of, which unfortunately means no ND
NOITAAAAA
Dude risk of rain 2 is a fucking BANG until you get into the meta which is honestly boring
Nl tries to refund Isaac on steam.
I would pay top dollahs to see him try :D
After 1 million hours logged
3,500 hours in "i didn't like the game"
litapd311
3.5k hours - “Too repetitive”
What blows my mind is how few hours he has in the game. By 11/11/12 I had several thousand in Skyrim. Dude's been playing since launch, for almost a decade, and has half the time....
wait is this technically a deck builder?
Indeimaus this is a card based deck building battle royale
Its a cooking,adventure game and the main character is a boiled egg.
Indeimaus will you be doing an NL issac video tier list?
Negative Space Again, what has he done to wrong you, distressed child?
@@hmm_okok Card Souls
B Tier stands for "Being currently talked about tier".
Nuclear Throne?
@@IronicHavoc For half the video he only put things in B Tier to talk about them
I wish at the end of the video B-Tier was just empty and when people asked why he was just like “I’ve already discussed them all, there’s no longer a need for it on the chart”
Doesn’t put Isaac in S tier:
Career Suicide
I hated Isaac...
@@jmmywyf4lyf casual git gud
@@bardockshiny I assume that was supposed to be an insult. 🤣 It wasn't.. But, I said I hated it... Not, that it was hard....🤦🏻♂️
Reading comprehension, little fella
@@jmmywyf4lyf git gud
@@bardockshiny aww. I've upset the snowflake. It's okay little one. Not everyone is gonna like your sad little game. Life will carry on.
Watch this video at 3x speed so you can get mad in the comments sooner.
If only 3x speed was a thing lol
Ah, I'm doing 1.75x.
@@KevinAccetta You can download extensions for that. I don't go quite to 3x, but my standard right now is 2.5x, since I got so used to 2x that it started sounding slow.
I'm already mad and I haven't clicked play.
You must be in the future because i can only watch up to 2x speed
Now rank all 5 million issac items in a 4 hour long livestream
Only 4 hours!?
Most of them probably end up in Z tier. Aside from Brimstone and D6 everything else is garbage (haven't watched Issac in years, is that still the meta?)
@@ericlamb4501 it literally still is
@@ericlamb4501 yup
@@ericlamb4501
S: Mum's knife, Tech-X, Brimstone
A: Epic fetus, Tarrot Cloth, 9 lives
B:
C:
D: Other
NL, I'm just gonna say. You said Gungeon was 'meh', it got a lot of updates, gave it a second chance, loved it. Hades was meh, got a lot of updates, gave it a second chance, loved it.
Dead Cells, you think it's meh, it's had an UNREASONABLE amount of updates. It's not even remotely the same game you played years ago. Give it a second chance.
This right here.
oooooooo boy, dead cell got JUICY. CRAZY JUICY
Has this game even been out for more than a year?
I mean, honestly, his point still stands. The best way to play the game on the highest difficulty is to skip most of the enemies and keep running, and for a game who's combat is fucking amazing and it's selling point, I really dislike how it encourages that kind of play.
Dead Cells is meh at best. It is unreasonably difficult to fight anything on higher boss cell modes. The fluidity of the combat is the games best feature, yet is discourages combat. Yeah...
I almost want to clip “don’t interrupt me with your dubstep” and put it in a drop
Do it
Do it
any one got a time stamp
have u dun it?
Hey? Have u done it?
Top 10 Events that led to WW3
Top 10 Most Controversial Moments in History
"Didn't think we'd be here this long"
Not even halfway through the video
This list isn't complete without at least one of the Risk of Rain games.
The list is mainly for games he played a lot of, risk of rain is not of this list for that reason
And crypt of the necrodancer
but they both suck
@@blazeultimo your mom
He doesn't have an E Tier
“slay the spire doesn’t have narrative”
LN stop skipping “fake lore”
NL also skipped the Light Novel (LN)
Lionnorthern
@@sayftarek9326 Lorthernnion
Neow wants to know NL's location
ilmu011 lithonnornern
28:18 the end card link to his channel pop right over his head it's perfect
that's what I was fuckin thinkin
Intentional
Putting Tomo quest in the S tier was odd.
Nice pfp, brother
putting kanye in the 10/10 tier was odd
NL clearly broke himself by playing dead cells so early and listening to chat. Its super polished now. And to echo everyone else, I agree, wtf, no Wizard of legend?
Wizard of legend is incredible. The most fun combat of any rogue like minus hades I think.
Wizard of legend is pretty meh
Sorry to bug you on a 1 year old comment, but what do you like about WoL? Thinking about buying it but not sure based on the videos I've seen.
Wake up honey, new 2024 S+ tier roguelike just dropped
I'm just glag NL left his cam to be aligned with the endcard
glag
HAHAHAHA
word wrong
he
said
the word
WRONG
WHAT AN IDIOT
Group chat subject changed to *glag*
It's beyond me why either of Risk of Rain games are not there.
This is heresy
He didn't really like either of them.
Crypt of the Necrodancer too
Did he ever check out Curious Expidition? Because that's an egregious error to me.
I loved them, but he didn't like the first one too much, he may have the second more but apparently not
„I‘m gonna put Isaac in A-Tier.“
*Pulls out Mom’s Knife.*
Jeah shoyld have been D ier since repentence
"FTL, we know it slaps, I can't think of a downside" *DOESN'T PUT IN S TIER*
Literally quit watching right there. Dude lost all credibility for me.
The core concept was done to perfection but the concept of other games are just better. Like how a very good steak would be better than the best vegan chicken nugget.
Being good and not having anything bad doesn't make it automatically top tier. Perfection isn't the most interesting thing a game can have
he did also say that the mechanics can be more stressful than relaxing to him so i can see that being grounds to put it where it is. remember these arent objective tiers, theyre relative to another and all of these games on an overall gaming tier list would be A or higher
Best roguelike for sure
The most controversial video of all time
>forgetting wizard of legend and a lizards wizard
this is wizard erasure
My wizard boy needs more recognition
lizard's wizard couldn't compete with 2008 newgrounds flash games.
@@NotLegato true, but isnt that what rankings are for.
I wonder if it's forgot or 'forgot'
For Wizard of Legend, it has to be forgot; for the other one, well...
Not to mention Risk of Rain, Crypt of the Necrodancer, Downwell...
Kind of sad Dungeon of the Endless isn't here, criminally underrated game.
And Risk of Rain 1+2.
😔😔
Also where is Hollow KNight?
@@jonahschwickert Not really a roguelike game at all, it's a metroidvania.
@@kasPWI oh true, my bad
Dungeon of the Endless is sooooooo good
@@jonahschwickert plus it sucks so theres no reason to even have it there
Slay the Spire is a game that originally didn't grab me and then became a game I've sunk hundreds of hours into across multiple platforms. It's honestly shocking how well they've perfectly captured the gameplay loop to be challenging, rewarding, and just damn fun. Add to that the continued content support and the insane number of customization options, it's definitely top tier for me.
I actually got emotional when NL got to Isaac
I agree getting him talking about it made me tear up
I found pills
@@ashark8968 HAHAHAH
@@ashark8968
Explosive. Diarrhea.
Feels like I’m walking on sunshine
The best and most important video-essay "Northern" ever did, this will cement his position as a top tear professional e-sportler.
Top "tear" because his misplays make us all cry.
Just so you know NL, this IS the content ive been waiting for. You are my door to probably my favorite genre so i cant wait to see your rankings.
“Death Road to Canada” is worth checking out!
Speed Shifter soul knight too
Egg, how could you make me so angry! I agree with you almost completely! I wanted to hear hot takes, not correct opinions!
"correct opinions"
opinions objectively aren't correct or incorrect.
Louie Sylvester it was a joke good lord
Rank your favorite hip hop albums of the decade egg man.
TBAP is probably the only album NL has listened to this decade Xd
Factsssss
@@Mrjman554 only hip hop album. He's also listened to contraband the best of men at work.
Gordon Frohman to bimp a putterfly?
Maybe NL will be the bald music reviewer to give MBDTF the love it deserves.
Honestly love the list, crazy to see the impact Isaac has, next to Hades. I think Hades will become an S in time
Greetings from the future! This guy called it.
How dare you not include wildfrost, a game that didn't came out when this list was made
Nuclear Throne does have an ending though RIP. 2 actually.
Came looking for this commenr
Now being the operative word. At the time NL played it didn't and he really doesn't go back to play games he already has again. He really should
@@ericlamb4501 he did with gungeon...
@@Jaxl8 Did he ever play Gungeon before last year? I honestly don't remember
@@ericlamb4501 yeah he did a good bit ok
Id say i was surprised at how much I actually agree with your listing here
Yeah, he's fairly accurate.
Might be the first time EVER his valuations weren't wildly inacurate, objectively.
Now we just need him to react to do not laugh nlss challenges lol
As someone who has been following the channel for a long time I'm glad to see spelunky so well treated. It was at the time my favourite serie. Thanks for teaching me English NL. May our next decade be as good as last.
I'll never forget Magicite for some reason.
There’s just something about it that hits just right, lol
#BringBackMagicite2020 I wanna see egglord mine a thousand wood and sell it all.
@@reisjames1 totally, i remember playing it and I just couldn't stop, it just got me hooked instantly
Thank you!! I’ve been wanting him to go back to that game for the longest
I waited for years for that game to get local co-op, i even asked about it in the steam discussions at least 2 times and got positive responses, then they made roguelands or whatever it was called and again no local co-op :(
"FTL - can't think of a single down side, honestly" *puts it in A-tier*
You can have no negatives without necessarily having the best of positives, no?
Symeon literally a genre defining game the same way metroidvania's are, so many games bite the basic formula and it still holds up. the only negative is the lack of official endless mode.
@@MetaMdad I'm sure its good although I never played it. Even if you redefined the wheel, you may not be some Egg's favorite game.
@@symeon5518 Honestly, you have to have played FTL to understand how it created it's own genre pretty much. I mean, good management games existed before this, but it's easily conceptually the best crew management game with ship to ship combat and so on. I do understand why FTL is in the A tier and not higher though, because in some ways it always felt lightweight to me. By the time you've played most ships, the core gameplay loop is kind of samey really. I do think the game needs more content or maybe a feature or two to expand upon the core game loop. Don't get me wrong, it's easily 9/10 game for what it is and at an exceptionally low price.
@@PHeMoX I might have to try this now. Thanks for telling me.
I would love to see you go through all the roguelike/lites to revisit them and do a different one each day on the channel to start the new year. Not just the ones featured in this videos but all of them in your collection
"Turns out i like to talk" - NL 2019
'I'm doing the most important video of my life here! I'll give you some wet food afterwards.'
Basically NL's channel in a nutshell.
Tumbleseed S++ or riot
Another absolute honker of a video. I really enjoyed this; I hope you do more of these one-off kinda videos as well.
Isaac: A tier
Repentance: Hello there
Jep now its a D tier
I can't believe he put Binding of Isaac to D tier
Well he said he would have put it higher but really hasn't gotten enough mileage out of it.
Rebirth is doubtlessly an S tier but every expansion drops it a tier
The 15 minutes rant about how he was swindled out of his 15 dollars by Edmund in a back alley was insane
I can't believe he dragged the shortcut to the recycling bin like that uninstalls the game.
@Brandon Bevill To be fair, at this point his Rebirth series could be considered a giant shitpost
This is the kind of list i want. A in depth ranking of some of the best games in the genre from someone with extensive time in each title, and whose opinion I value on the subject. Thank you sir.
Well, "extensive time in each title" is stretching it.
Semyon Galtsev I would say 100+ hours is extensive with how the length of the run is at most a few hours. That’s quite a few runs in each game. Some more then others but that’s enough to rank the games on a tier list.
Mostly Animosity you’re a cool dude
@@jasonmelanconjm
Semyon Galtsev My friend, if you think that 100+ hours in a roguelike/roguelite game isn’t extensive, I seriously worry for how you spend your free time.
Goddamn it's been a wild ride NL. I've been watching you since your first episode of flash Issac when I was like 11. You're one of the most wholesome UA-camrs and the only let's player I still really care about. Big love to ya in the new year
Loved the commentary on this, more please!!!
Ok but where's TUMBLESEED
Its not here because nl would have to give it s tier and people would get mad
Can I get a ELI5 on the tumbleseed meme? Originally I thought NL really liked it but at some point it became a punchline for disappointing games
Wizard's lizard got snubbed
Rudzinsky fucking BEST tho. I don’t even care.
NL putting Isaac where he put it is one of the top ten anime betrayals of all time.
Out of these games Isaac is the one I have the most hours in. I think if you put rebirth in without any of the expansions, it's s-tier. All the other content that came later with the exception of some synergies honestly just bloated a well-balanced game
@@tinylittlemildred I actually agree with his ranking im proud of him for being realistic with it but its still a top ten anime betrayal lol.
I honestly think if it wasnt for the "legacy" aspects of the rankings, it should have been much lower. Like a solid C tier
@@abcdefsuzu the game can suck pretty hard after Plus
I remember when NL first beat with the lost, Megastan. The emotions he had .So sad that it is no S tier.
I enjoy this video, it had well thought out commentary and you gave each game it's fair share of time explaining what you liked and didn't like. Thank you sir.
As a huge fan of the genre it was pretty fascinating to hear your breakdowns of each of these games and how they impacted you at the time. Definitely down for some more mechanics shop-talky kinds of content.
My honorable mentions:
Crypt of the Necrodancer: Interesting mechanic to move on beat, banger Danny B soundtrack, lots of characters to play with.
Moonlighter: I played it like 5 hrs but economy + roguelike is interesting.
Wizard of Legend: Almost good combat fluidity as Dead Cells.
Void Bastards: FPS Roguelike done good.
Risk of Rain: Name legacy
Check out Noita see what you think
Cadence of Hyrule is better IMO
Moonlighter is amazing. Not nearly enough shop-keep games around. The fact its a Roguelike Shop keep game is amazing.
And 100% with you on Wizard of Legend. The combat is so fluid and the variety of tools at your disposal really helps keep the game replayable.
PVZBronyGod Gaming cadence has a fun campaign but the sheer amount of replayability the original has makes it 100x better imo
Risk of Rain 1 is so underrated. 2 is good too.
Darkest Dungeon at A Tier. I’m satisfied.
Most overrated game on the list.
jigar talaviya You HERETIC.
Darkest dungeon with all the DLCs is an amazing game
The hero reads an unsettling passage...HOPELESS
Truly another work of radical art, Egg brings in the decade with a masterful video.
Great to see you expanding your content
I love how everyone's talking about tumbleseed and flinthook while the only reason I remember them is because you played them around the time dead cells came out and my interest in your channel was reignited
Part of me is glad Flinthook got snubbed. Bought it because of NL making it look interesting, couldn't get into it past a few hours.
Lol love to see a list video from NL. I enjoy how your trying out different content. Enjoy the new year my man, and to you all as well :)
Pls do more videos like this, for some reason i adore these
Hey Ryan, I bought Hades after watching you play and I agree with you. I think I played it for 6h straight on first install, great game. Great list as well thanks for all the content over the years.
For me, Rebirth was an S tier, but it droped a whole tier with each expansion.
This is the correct opinion.
Let's hope kilburn fixes that with repentance!
laxur1312 nail on the head
whats with all the afterbirth hate?
@@darkjanggotdi6154 I don't hate any version of Isaac, but I'd say each expansion was more quantity and less quality changes. For example items kept getting added that really were just slightly different versions of items that already existed. Isaac was huge to begin with, it needed refinement rather than expansion.
did he actually put isaac in A, after literally making a career out of it. sick
Someone call Isaac; he's crying
Isaac should be like in S tier why tf did he put it in A tier im mad rignt now.
I hope your not serious. Isaac is a damn good game but its far from perfect.
@@jackgero8938 edmund said isaac 2 will be perfect, i hope he's right. Isaac and spelunky are still going to be two of my favourite games though
He gave reasons on why it's not S
This was awesome! Thanks for doing it! hope to see more of these videos. Slay the spire is still getting characters and content added, amazing game. Spelunky? What is this game? Excited to go back and watch your play through on it!
Ah yes, Ice Ngeo, Hildren of Ort, Dead D, T, Des, To He Each, Saac, Gue Gacy, Pelunk, and Treet of Rogue are some of my favourites.
dead D is me after she continues the succ after nutting
Fucking “Saac”
I'd love to see more videos like this in the future, NL! Great diversion from the norm that lets your personality shine while also giving you something relatively meaningful to discuss.
Brooooo I've discoved sooooo many awesome games because of you!! Thank you kind sir and I wish you all the best for 2020!!!
Definitely didn't expect Dead Cells to be so low, but other than that, I agree
I appreciate the effort on this. The perfect person for this tier list.
Plz play FTL again. Not enough people play it on here
I second this. I go back to watch the 5 year old OG FTL series occasionally.
Its super addicting
It would be cool to see Ryan due a 'legacy' week for these games. Like a week of FTL. A week of Spelunky, etc.
@@A1phaz0ne That's such a good idea actually
@@A1phaz0ne yeah that's a dope idea, I'd kill to see more of NL playing Spelunky and Nuclear Throne
Great choices, really good arguments, I have nothing but praises for this video. Even if I don't agree with all the choices.
tripping on acid and this video is just too funny to me idk why
Hope you will do another video like this at some point, an updated version
Risk of Rain 1 & 2 are fantastic and didn't even make the list, ouch.
He didn't like em at all.
He didn't play it enough to give the games a honest appraisal. Doesn't mean he didn't like it.
"Honestly I haven't played enough to give them an honest appraisal. Both of them would end up in C tier because of my ignorance." -Northernlion
1 was good but being in 2d severely limited gameplay depth and replayability. 2 has potential to become really good, but they dropped it pretty early into its early access and the game is very empty as it stands. While RoR2 has made some good progress it’s still very much an early access game that lacks a lot of the pizazz that would let it make this list
@@allhailepicface123 Totally fair. I love both games to death, but the first Risk of Rain was pretty hit or miss as to whether any given person actually liked it, and 2 isn't even finished yet, so judging it now would be a little preemptive.
By the way, I was pleasantly surprised by Rogue Legacy's addiction. Definitely easy to recommend to those who never played it, but are into platformers / roguelikes.
Me and the boys on the way to the rogue legacy rehabilitation centre.
Almost had to remove Canada from the map when it looked like StS was going anywhere other than S-tier
I eagerly await your Isaac placement
Canada is out the map for the second time because of Mr Letourneau 's isaac placement
Amazing list! I agree 100%. Love the new content.
Invisible, Inc. deserved a spot though Klei themselves forgot about it so I don't blame people for glossing over it
Comment man who eats Gahbage its invisible
Which is fucking tragic cause ive been playing that game more than i would like to admit recently
Invisible inc was gold. Maybe the best game he left off the list.
Wait is that the xcom like game? I have a few hours into it but from what I remember it wasn't really a roguelike?
@@huseyinarisoy7824 The levels were procedurally generated, as was the missions and items. It had a limited campaign and an endless mode, so it should be counted as roguelike.
You really need to go back at dead cells, got several biiig updates, tons of QoL, and new DLC is in the horizon
IMO dead cells is S tier because it has fixed all the faults you mentined, I think you should play through it again cus it's super fun.
My list:
S: ETG, Dead cells
A. Isaac, wizard of legend
B. Slay the spire
C. FTL, Spelunky, into the breach, rogue legacy
D. Dicey Dungeons, darkest dungeon, Nuclear throne
slay the spire deserves to be in S tier
I really enjoyed this! Great video!
He didnt even mention Wayne June in his DD positives.
Madness
Another soul battered and broken, cast aside like a spent torch.
Personal list cause why not
S: FTL, Gungeon, Isaac
A: Dead cells, Spire, Into the breach
B: Risk of rain 2, Hades
C: Darkest dungeon, Nuclear throne
Isaac in S? That's interesting. It would have been in S for me if it were just Rebirth but honestly the DLC has ruined the game for me, especially AB+. Greedier is fucking obnoxious and unfun, and the item bloat is insane. Hopefully Revelations is amazing, they seem to be taking their time. The game holds a special place in my heart but the highest I'd put it is B WITH DLC.
Val
u mean repentance right?
@@shamblestheclown
I put it in S also mostly because it has the best modding scene of the ones I played. Also it helps that most of the bs bosses are optional.
Excited to check this out. We really got into roguelikes this year, we might be toying with the idea for our next game. ;)
Thank you for making this decade what it was NL
This video made me realize how influenced my game choices are by you, thanks egg
Ryab, please never change. The interplay between sardonic and genuine is S+ tier for all decades.
This is the most important video on UA-cam as for right now
This was actually really nice. I really loved nuclear throne and im glad it got into B tier. I felt like that game didnt get the credit it deserved for a really long time. And isaac's placement i feel aso tho is fair and all of the placements were really honest as well. I really enjoyed this look and this video as a whole
Northern should revisit dead cells some time. They added a fuckton of weapons and reduced the need for camping strategies
The main things he had an issue with are also greatly reduced.
i think dead cells should be B not even A, personally love this game
@@Rafty9
Did you play the game when it was brand new? It was much worse at the time. The two optimal ways to play were to either skip through nearly everything to get a time gate on every level, or to be cursed 15 times every run and meticulously wait for cooldowns on your turrets so you could clear out every stage
This video should be titled "Egg Breaks the Internet"
I feel like half the fun of Isaac is the game shoving bs into your face and then you have to say ‘alright, how do I combat this?’ And think of a way to get out of the situation you’re in
in all of my 115 hours of isaac, i have never been in a situation that i would call bs and only a couple of times was it unfair, am i playing it right or am i just good?
@@mylastaccountgotbanned2393 If you have not encountered any bs in Isaac yet, then you are lucky.
I have 900 hours on it now and have encountered many bs/unfair situations
@@Sleepy-yp4wx explain one of em
@@mylastaccountgotbanned2393 Maybe the many times I've died due to rooms I go into being flooded with enemies and bullets, or maybe the time I picked up soy milk and encountered duke of flies, who spat out flies faster than I could deal with them, making the fight literally impossible?
@@Sleepy-yp4wx neither of those are "bs", sure they may be hard but the first situation just get better, and the second it was your choice to grab soy milk which automatically makes it not bs but you also could have just dodged the flies and focused on the duke.
Very fun video NL. It'd be cool if you made a "Top Souls and sous-like games".
holy shit I never thought this would happen
So glad you put enter the gungeon was in s tier loved watching you play that game
I picked up slay the spire after seeing how impressed you are with it. Having an absolute blast. Ready to start watching your videos on it
whats that icon on the thumbnail in top left?