Becoming a Geisha 3 (2005)

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 10 бер 2008
  • An interesting documentary on the way of the geisha:
    A young woman from Northern Japan has decided to quit school and move to Gion, the geisha quarter of Kyoto. There she wants to fulfill her dream of becoming a Geisha, called Geiko in Kyoto.
    First she has to go through a trial period of several months and only after passing an exam is she formally accepted as an apprentice Geisha, called Maiko.
  • Фільми й анімація

КОМЕНТАРІ • 227

  • @oliviaelias4384
    @oliviaelias4384 8 років тому +79

    The older sister . . . .
    omfg SO MUCH 2005

  • @aniepluto5725
    @aniepluto5725 6 років тому +38

    I feel bad for the actual older sister. I have heard of siblings and how one is successful in this or this or this, while the other gets pushed into the background. Eventually, the Background Sibling would usually end up not talking anymore to the rest of their brothers or sisters or their parents because they get tired of having the Successful One constantly rubbed in their face, whether on purpose, passive-aggressively, or by accident.

    • @EightyFo84Princess
      @EightyFo84Princess 5 років тому +6

      this happened with my cousin,she went to community college while her sister got accepted to a good college ,then when she graduated ,got a very good job and thats all everyone talked about...my cousin ended up becoming a mute and stayed in her room all day,no one really knows whats up with her anymore and i wish i could talk to her but she lives far and doesnt give out her number.

  • @Diamonddusted68
    @Diamonddusted68 12 років тому +57

    I don't have the knees for a culture like this.

  • @AmandaLeigh1004
    @AmandaLeigh1004 13 років тому +18

    She has a very mature way of thinking for someone so young; she seems to fit in well with the Geisha way of life.

  • @kj7129
    @kj7129 13 років тому +16

    heck taking my heels off after a night out is hard enough can't imagine dealing with a whole kimono. Personally I lack the patience to do what these girls do. It seems like really hard work and requires a lot of dedication. Kudos to them!

  • @kellsfreeman8008
    @kellsfreeman8008 10 років тому +54

    I'm like the sister. I'm 24 and still haven't found what I want to do yet.

    • @MirrorWitch13
      @MirrorWitch13 10 років тому +14

      Sometimes destiny takes time. Don't worry, you're heart will guide you when the time is right.

    • @coveruplies
      @coveruplies 4 роки тому +3

      So what happened

    • @frost.bytten2023
      @frost.bytten2023 3 роки тому +3

      I am like yukina, I am trying to become a geisha.

  • @MirrorWitch13
    @MirrorWitch13 10 років тому +24

    Being a geisha seems far more pleasant now than in the past, but my goodness it's still terribly hard work! I could never do it.

    • @catpeach326
      @catpeach326 8 років тому +3

      They're still not allowed to have boyfriends. If a Geisha wishes to marry, she must retire. No working Geisha is allowed to have a love life.

    • @Ilovelosangeles
      @Ilovelosangeles 7 років тому +4

      Well at 5:36, they start talking about boyfriends, and the girl is saying that it's rare for them to have a boyfriend because they work so hard and don't have time, and then goes on to say that if you're passionate about that stuff, that you'll never survive in this business.
      She never says they're not allowed to have boyfriends, or that they're not allowed to have a love life. She says this starting at 5:36.

  • @OR0R0
    @OR0R0 10 років тому +48

    Misato seems like kind of mean. There's no competition between her and Yukina. Yukina has just always had a dream and is following it. I think Misa's just frustrated cos she hasn't found her dream. She kind of feel like her little sister one upped her. I'd be proud of Yukina if she was my little sis. Maybe Misato could model since she seems to like makeup and fashionable clothes.

    • @SRfangirl
      @SRfangirl 4 роки тому +3

      This sorta seems to be the culture. Either that, or it’s the sibling pecking order, that is, the eldest sibling or older siblings get held up as examples of what to do or not for the younger ones. Take my eldest uncle: started his own company. It’s still around and his middle child has taken over most of the day-to-day running of it. If our family had been any different, my mom and her siblings (my grandparents had 7 children) would’ve heard some variation of ‘Why can’t you be more like brother?’ growing up.

  • @grown.ass.nerd.
    @grown.ass.nerd. 12 років тому +21

    It's nice seeing that Yukina could develop a good relationship with her new onee-san. It's sad that the relationship with her own blood onee-san has deteriorated. But what does she expect? She quit college while her younger sister is in Kyoto under vigorous training and all she's doing is buying more mascara. Yukina will become a geisha, an artist. What will she do?

  • @kikutokatana1
    @kikutokatana1 12 років тому +5

    Unless they are born in okiya, these girls commonly go to school until 15 and then join okiya. So you can still become a Geisha if you want. You don't need to have any money to start with. Your okasan will pay for everything. When you finish your training and become a Maiko, that's when you have to start paying back. But it'll take years before you can start earning money for yourself, so it requires lots of dedication and commitment.

  • @ElizaHamilton1780
    @ElizaHamilton1780 2 роки тому +12

    I wonder what happened to Misato, Yukina’s sister? Did she ever decide to try college again? And did she and Yukina talk again? It doesn’t sound like they’re not on speaking terms, but if Misato’s jealous and feels like she lacks ambition or direction in her own life, well…?

  • @vintageincolor
    @vintageincolor 2 роки тому +5

    Hope the older sister figured out her path. She’s very pretty. Some people are like that. Some know what they want out of life and others don’t

  • @truthb4ureyesgoodgrl911
    @truthb4ureyesgoodgrl911 3 роки тому +5

    I have always found they're culture fascinating... every thing about geisha is so graceful and beautiful....

  • @Kolmenpimpsu-vi4vn
    @Kolmenpimpsu-vi4vn 4 місяці тому +1

    It all looked pretty chill until the narrator says " it's 2 AM"

  • @nasti7523
    @nasti7523 8 років тому +15

    Kikuyu san had her erikae (became a fully fledged geiko) on 22nd December 2009.
    UNFORTUNATELY she left the profession in December 2012

    • @LiraDraculea
      @LiraDraculea 8 років тому

      any reason as to why she left?

    • @LiraDraculea
      @LiraDraculea 8 років тому +15

      I did some research and apparently she quit to get married 🙂

    • @antihero9443
      @antihero9443 7 років тому +1

      Are you a Kikumaru fanatic? I'm a Kikutsuru fanatic LoL

    • @rossmariaarranzsanchez4429
      @rossmariaarranzsanchez4429 4 місяці тому

      I came from the Future and i wanna know how is her Life as wife going? How old is she nowadays?

  • @jungyew
    @jungyew 15 років тому +8

    Incredible story. I cannot imagine such a self-sacrificing and demanding way of life.

  • @thaliagraichen8312
    @thaliagraichen8312 4 роки тому +17

    why I can't become a Maiko:
    -kneeling on hard floors
    -not being able to wash my hair everyday
    -thick white makeup makes my pimples worse
    -no boyfriend or lover allowed
    -starving at luxurious banquets and events
    -always entertaining old men
    -being forced to drink alcohol
    -learning the difficult Kyoto Accent
    -almost no contact to my family😗

    • @emanuel-vw8rg
      @emanuel-vw8rg 4 роки тому +2

      I mean i agree........ except for the "always old men" part. Most of the men are actually in there 30s or 40s even late 20s, i dont think 40 is condsidered old.

    • @frost.bytten2023
      @frost.bytten2023 3 роки тому +1

      I don't wash my hair everyday, I'm a lesbian,

    • @infjelphabasupporter8416
      @infjelphabasupporter8416 2 роки тому +1

      "Almost no contact to my family" id join for that lol. The only problem is the hairstyle would probably trigger my severe migraines.

  • @MsAngelique
    @MsAngelique 11 років тому +5

    1. You learn special arts and skills. 2. You meet high class rich people and celebrities. 3. You get to wear clothing most people would never even touch. 4. You get to eat at the best places. 5. It's likely that customers will start fawning over how pretty you are. There are some positives. x3

  • @GoldenEraa
    @GoldenEraa 11 років тому +7

    I don't know why I laughed so much when her sister is buying make-up and Robbie Williams is playing in the background. :')

  • @KyouuumeOkiya
    @KyouuumeOkiya 11 років тому +4

    In the wareshinobu hairstyle the two red pieces (which are tubes of red silk slightly stuffed) are called kanoko. In the ofuku style the traingular piece (which can be blue, green, purple, white, pink, red and white, or green) is called a tegara kanoko. In the katsuyama style (the one worn in July) it's a ro kanoko which is only either red and white (sometimes silver) or pink. For yakko shimada it's a ro kanoko of all different colors. For sakko it is only a red, no white or silver, silk ribbon.

  • @SuperShroomieGaming
    @SuperShroomieGaming 15 років тому +1

    Exactly what I was thinking! She seems to love the stuff from that short clip we saw of her.

  • @starryshark
    @starryshark 12 років тому +1

    D'awww, her big sister is so kind to her.

  • @PorschiaPaxton
    @PorschiaPaxton 12 років тому +6

    I think it would be a great experience to go to Kyoto and meet the maikos and geisha! I would also be cool to actually experience the training, but I don't know if I could do it for a long time. Still this culture is so interesting to me:)

  • @mariamzahedi8972
    @mariamzahedi8972 11 років тому +4

    Oh my goodness, all those layers, all that fabric- I'm sweating just looking at her!

  • @shayekisitu
    @shayekisitu 7 років тому +4

    She is really beautiful. She looks like a living doll.

  • @Sotkai11
    @Sotkai11 13 років тому +2

    I was doing the math, and Yukina debuted in 2005, she will have her Eri-kae somtime this year in 2010! Congrats Yukina!

  • @aurielMoon
    @aurielMoon 12 років тому +1

    every time i see see those flutters i can't help but say 'bira bira!'

  • @KyouuumeOkiya
    @KyouuumeOkiya 11 років тому +2

    The ofuku tegara (piece of red and white cloth [yes you were right]) changes colors. However, I have seen senior maiko in their fourth years wearing the red and white, so it may simply depend on their preferences. There are blue, green, purple, white, pink, and red and white tegara cloths. It's a triangular piece with two strings on the outer corners that is tied around the base of the maegami (bun), the top corner has a small, short pin that does not touch the scapl but holds it in place.

  • @SacredGaea
    @SacredGaea 11 років тому +1

    Oh that's interesting. Thanks for your reply.

  • @seraphphoenix
    @seraphphoenix 12 років тому +1

    The kimono and jewelry the girl around 3:00 is wearing is so pretty

  • @BeautifulPengu
    @BeautifulPengu 14 років тому +1

    Sweet! ^_^
    Happy to hear other people like it too lol.
    Not a lot of people do near me :(

  • @mariakai
    @mariakai 14 років тому +5

    Kikuno is sooooooooooooo beautiful!

  • @kaitlinr9735
    @kaitlinr9735 2 роки тому +1

    I'm going to be honest, it's horrifying the way these girls are being taught to look at eating and their bodies. All of the girls who don't eat even though they've been working for hours, and how they're so worried about their weight all the time. It's just not a very healthy way of looking at things.

  • @KyouuumeOkiya
    @KyouuumeOkiya 11 років тому +1

    That hairstyle is just a bun that is pulled up and a decorative net is tied around it to keep the frays from flying.

  • @KyouuumeOkiya
    @KyouuumeOkiya 11 років тому

    She's straightening it. It's a special type of flat iron that as they go down the hair strands it creates volume to help keep the hair in its shape.

  • @saphiredewdrop
    @saphiredewdrop 13 років тому +1

    @thesecretpathoflife so how will the sensei find me unless i go to them first? i want to try it.

  • @Agaettis
    @Agaettis 12 років тому +3

    She's most certainly a maiko, she has long sleves and a red collar. Not sure about who should be the Onee-san traditionally though, perhaps the maiko's must helps with some training because there are so few Geisha to go around?

  • @TheChickenRiceBowl
    @TheChickenRiceBowl 10 років тому +1

    What are those metal things clanking when they're getting their hair done at 1:58.

  • @lindalou83
    @lindalou83 11 років тому +2

    To those who responded with the comments below - yes, I know this is how they communicate with their clients. I am not stupid. I just find it incongruous as they represent a very traditional aspect of Japanese culture. I'm not saying they shouldn't have a mobile phone!!!! Thank you to everyone who understood my meaning and "liked" my comment :-)

  • @vintageincolor
    @vintageincolor 2 роки тому +1

    I feel bad for the big sister geisha she’s always worried about her weight and what she eats. Almost sounds like she’s developed a bit of an eating disorder 😕 I hate to see it because she’s beautiful and thin

  • @20PINKluvr
    @20PINKluvr 4 роки тому +2

    Yukinas maiko sister is so pretty!!

  • @KyouuumeOkiya
    @KyouuumeOkiya 11 років тому +1

    In some districts Oneesan may still be maiko, but the earliest they are allowed to become Oneesan is at san nen me (third year) which is rare, but some Okiya in Gion Kobu do it, like Tama Okiya with Okami-kaasan.

  • @Majestybird
    @Majestybird 14 років тому +1

    @starsonmywindow it's a type of hair crimper to add volume to the hair.

  • @jaystevenson7232
    @jaystevenson7232 11 років тому +1

    there is that side of it you're right though. hard work does pay off

  • @hemlockfury4433
    @hemlockfury4433 11 років тому +4

    Yukina is SO adorable. I know I said that before but seriously! Wish I was gentle-spirited as her. xD

  • @aimunn
    @aimunn 12 років тому +1

    @blingblingshineshine me too! I was quite shocked when I found out in highschool that university was an option.

  • @Lykacute95
    @Lykacute95 10 років тому +1

    not sure with the smile of the big sister before she close the door at 8:56 haha XD

  • @tinabrown2548
    @tinabrown2548 2 роки тому

    Would kill my lower back up and down all the time. But I admire the endurance and skill it rakes to perfect this art

  • @AyilanaEien
    @AyilanaEien 14 років тому +1

    @ewoodham
    I think they may even be a little more expensive than that these days! I have a furisode magazine from when I was in Japan and the most expensive one it is was $13,000! I would think a maiko hikizuri would be even more than that, and just on average! But maybe not. And yeah, obi have so many special threads they are ridiculous in pricing almost!

  • @hemlockfury4433
    @hemlockfury4433 9 років тому +18

    They must be so hot with all those layers! I'd die. xD

    • @choipichiim
      @choipichiim 4 роки тому +3

      I'm not an expert on this but kimono's I think are actually breathable despite the multiple layers, considering how its silk.
      Yukata is another form of a the kimono but its made out of cotton and is meant for summer use.

  • @misslizzy1993
    @misslizzy1993 12 років тому +1

    how come they allways seem to knee to open the door do they do that to enter the house aswell?

  • @rent8907
    @rent8907 11 років тому +1

    going in and out of doors looks like a hassle.

  • @saphiredewdrop
    @saphiredewdrop 13 років тому +1

    @thesecretpathoflife where do i go to learn koryu?

  • @jiszellenew2277
    @jiszellenew2277 8 років тому +5

    Love Yukina's Donald Duck pajamas.

  • @Glasmoon90
    @Glasmoon90 14 років тому +1

    @LOGOMag That could also be contact lens ...

  • @sevenMOons666
    @sevenMOons666 12 років тому +1

    aww her pajamas are so cute!! :)

  • @TheMissPiplup
    @TheMissPiplup 10 років тому +1

    I wonder what sort of fabric the obi is made from...

  • @eburel506
    @eburel506 13 років тому

    @MalonEisaiMalakas what would annoy me the most is those pillows they have to sleep on would really hurt my neck. (I can barely stand the sink when I get my hair done). and I am not sure I could rember all the dance moves (I can be very forgetful.

  • @wrongisright
    @wrongisright 11 років тому +1

    The subtitles were wrong, but oh well XD I guess you can't always get a good translator.

  • @SRfangirl
    @SRfangirl 12 років тому +1

    It's actually a band of cloth that's tied in w/ the hair style, not a ball. I can see how it can look red and green, though I believe from what I've researched, it's actually a red and white pattern. Don't quote me on that, though. Maiko have different colored ones depending on what stage of training they're at. From the looks of it Kikuno is still a junior maiko, probably around 17. She is now a geiko, as is Kikuyo. The band and hairstyle change around 18 to one with a red band.

  • @FiestyCat86
    @FiestyCat86 14 років тому

    Does anyone know what that little metal tool was that they used on her hair? I know that i sound dumb, but I'm not sure what it is. thanks...

  • @KyouuumeOkiya
    @KyouuumeOkiya 11 років тому +2

    Not everyone gets to even see the inside. Sometimes during their days off where they are not working at all, they may go and eat at those places too. It just depends on how much they have saved up.

  • @AmandaLeigh1004
    @AmandaLeigh1004 13 років тому +1

    @xShadowxPhoenix They can, but the more likely case is that they make sure not to drink, because it's a pain to go to the bathroom when you're wearing the full geisha ensemble.

  • @neonaction
    @neonaction 14 років тому +2

    geisha are really strong and independent women! I admire them

  • @alestane
    @alestane 15 років тому +1

    Oh, I see what you mean.
    But it's mostly shikomi that are (sometimes, probably depending on the okiya) forbidden to use cellphones, not maiko I think, and certainly not geiko.
    A cellphone would be handy to communicate with the okiya or ochaya in case of changes or trouble, and in any case I remember seeing other pictures of geiko and maiko using cellphones (and a documentary where a shikomi said she wasn't allowed to).

  • @okaminess
    @okaminess 13 років тому +1

    @MalonEisaiMalakas Japanese bow quite a lot, so I think they're pretty used to it. XD

  • @happyandemo666
    @happyandemo666 12 років тому +1

    I think Misato would become a beautiful model.

  • @YelloWhiteFlowers
    @YelloWhiteFlowers 12 років тому +1

    why do i feel lonely watching this? Yukina run away!!

  • @dauphine719
    @dauphine719 12 років тому +2

    eyeroll @ them spelling it "saki"

  • @CelebrianoLorien
    @CelebrianoLorien 15 років тому +1

    Yeah, it's around there... that's incredibly expensive

  • @DangVuVN
    @DangVuVN 11 років тому +3

    this world always makes me interested :)

  • @eburel506
    @eburel506 13 років тому

    @literaturechick12 I agree its sad the lose culture sometimes. (however there are some things I am glad that are gone like the mituzuage).

  • @xjetsetxlifex
    @xjetsetxlifex 13 років тому

    Why do they have to kneel before opening and closing the door?

  • @Ascended27
    @Ascended27 13 років тому

    Does anyone know the name or how to do Yukina's hairstyle in 1:18?

  • @5050TM
    @5050TM 12 років тому

    It's like memoirs of a geisha movie where the big "sister" was jealous of the little "sister" even though they weren't actually related in that movie...sort of similar.

  • @SacredGaea
    @SacredGaea 11 років тому

    Why do they have to kneel down each time they open the sliding door? It seems so inconvenient. Can't they just bend and open it?

  • @kiss9hug
    @kiss9hug 13 років тому

    why do they hav to kneel down everytime they open or close those sliding doors? Formality? i don't see any practical reasons, unless it helps them make a habit of doing so when in actual formal circumstances.

  • @lindalou83
    @lindalou83 12 років тому +4

    "please bring my mobile phone" modern geisha!

  • @eburel506
    @eburel506 13 років тому

    Questioned..(Raises hand) what is the hair peice that maikos wear with the dangley metal bits?

  • @EmmaCherina
    @EmmaCherina 14 років тому

    I'd hate to open doors like that..

  • @eburel506
    @eburel506 13 років тому

    @attackofdameepits thanks so much i found some on ebay but I dont think they are that authentic. so thanks a bunch.

  • @tarragonriri
    @tarragonriri 11 років тому +1

    @tineeeable - I agree with you, there are many negatives but overall being a geisha is a positive thing, there would be no geisha at all if it was overall negative

  • @morganaravens
    @morganaravens 12 років тому

    the one thing that stood out to me was the younger girl had to get on her knees to open and close the door even though she's going to be back on her knees a few feet away a second later, that has got to be tiring!

  • @alestane
    @alestane 15 років тому +1

    That's good manners in Japan. Especially as a maiko in training, she would be scolded if she didn't.
    From a practical point of view, the door is less likely to slide off this way, as the direction of the force you apply to it doesn't tend to lift it off.

  • @MalonEisaiMalakas
    @MalonEisaiMalakas 13 років тому

    How can she bare bowing down to open the sliding door every-time she goes through? I would be like, screw this I'm just walking through.

  • @buzzlightyearandco
    @buzzlightyearandco 12 років тому +1

    @WillyyyV My impression was that technically, while the geisha do live in the geisha house, they do eventually earn a portion of their own income and they are allowed to date (and in extension, have sex, as a personal matter-not as part of their work). The issue of dating seems to revolve around lack of time, as they are always training and working.

  • @theblackfeather
    @theblackfeather 11 років тому

    Well, i've read that most geishas tend to retire around the ages of 20-22. by 2012 she would have pretty much reach that age.

  • @true2me713
    @true2me713 12 років тому

    why does she have to be on her knees to open and close the door?

  • @angelcarmie2
    @angelcarmie2 14 років тому

    msprittstick how do you know she dosen't have alot of the same shirt???don't judge

  • @neil147a
    @neil147a 12 років тому

    Liza Dalby, she wrote a book about it entitled Geisha that's worth reading.

  • @charszilla
    @charszilla 11 років тому +1

    How else will they communicate with clients? Carrier Pigeons?

  • @FurryToraChan
    @FurryToraChan 10 років тому +2

    hard life.. O.O

  • @victorianme3668
    @victorianme3668 5 років тому

    It's kinda crazy how she had to kneel down, open the door, then rise and walk out, instead of just open the door and step out

  • @KyouuumeOkiya
    @KyouuumeOkiya 11 років тому +2

    Baba-chan is one of the other women who helps around the okiya. She's the one that takes Yukina on her rounds during her Misedashi. She helps cook meals sometimes in the house too from what I found.

    • @antihero9443
      @antihero9443 6 років тому +1

      The woman(onagoshi) who took Yukina around during the misedashi is the okaasan of Ishihatsu.

  • @shizukagozen777
    @shizukagozen777 11 років тому +1

    Every geisha have a mobile, it isn t become they have an "old job" that they don t nead one like everyone. For example, they use it to communicate with the okiya for the new appointments and lots of other stuffs.

  • @Osaka0ya
    @Osaka0ya 12 років тому +2

    Actually traditional finishing schools are like this, though they're almost near extinct. The most famous one is in Austria I think.

  • @studtimmie
    @studtimmie 14 років тому

    the parties and environment change dramtically for a geisha house .. dont you think ?

  • @meowishkat
    @meowishkat 12 років тому

    what is the woman doing to the poor girls hair ??
    its thin enough but she just keeps crimping on it ???!

  • @FairyFederation
    @FairyFederation 12 років тому

    @misslizzy1993 no they do not do that when they open the door to the house. 0.0

  • @Yuri92001
    @Yuri92001 14 років тому +1

    To get good extensions and/or weave for my hair can go upwards to 5k....yeah it is possible.