Funny you should mention the IRS in this connection. I have not actually had issues proving myself to them, but in spring 2023, my state made me produce my passport or birth certificate, my license, my Social Security Card, a utility bill in my name at my taxpaying address, and something from my bank showing the last 4 digits of my direct deposit account before they would send me my 2022 tax refund. These were more documents than they required when I got my Real ID a few months later.
This isn't about protecting fraud or you. It's about post 9/11 government tyrants doing what they do. The official purposes covered by the Act and regulation are: Accessing certain federal facilities; Boarding Federally regulated commercial aircraft; and Entering nuclear power plants. From the DHS website, this nonsense was passed almost 20 years ago. You see it's critical for fraud blah blah. What a bunch of nonsense.
I've had a real ID ever since they distributed them, I didn't even know it was a thing but it is automatically given to you if you bring your birth certificate. You don't pay more for it, and yeah passports work but still it's just automatic next time you renew your license.
@@holographictopiarySame. Had one since a 2016 move of address. I didn’t have to show any birth certificate, because it was done automatically online. Now then, when I had to get my third Real ID, (second was renewed online), I had to go in person. That’s when they wanted to see documents, but I had a valid passport, which was enough.
Real I.D. is a federal data base that will be able to track you. With a passport, they will have your current address once every10 years. With the Real I.D., you voluntarily update your address every time you move.
@@SheLoveSports If the government actually cares about tracking you, trust me, not having a real id isn't going to keep you hidden. There's a million ways you're already being tracked. You drive a car and ever passed a toll? Even without something like EZ Pass, they know you crossed the toll. Ever used a credit card? Have a cell phone (not even a smart phone)? With a cell phone, you can be pinpointed down to 15 feet. Again, this is assuming you're someone to government actually wants to track, like if you're doing nefarious stuff!
It's not tightening the noose, just returning to having people prove their identity before issuing them a proof of identity. The change came when states issued DLs based on someone simply saying who they were without any proof of identity. Now we're just retuning to what had been the standard before.
@eddenoy321.... "You'll have nothing and be happy." (2030 hopes/plans for all of us not in "the club" = most of us.) It will end. But by that time we will have become the slaves they desire us to be and (their hope/goal is) most of you will be compliant. By the time more people understand that real freedom isn't free? It will be too late. 😓
@jonimoore1994... They don't really care about who you are. Knowing WHERE you are just makes it easier in case they decide to come for you. (Ask Eric Snowden)
@@mrtee3477 The polls are not federally secured areas. The airport secured area is a federally secured area. You have a constitutional right to vote. You do not have a constitutional right to fly.
@@westbccoast No, Canada does not issue a passport card. Canada only issues traditional passport booklets. In contrast, the United States offers both a passport book and a passport card, with the card being a more convenient option for land and sea travel between the U.S., Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean, and Bermuda. The Canadian passport booklet is the only official travel document for Canadians, used for international air travel and all other travel scenarios requiring a passport.
One thing that wasn’t mentioned for whatever reason, is how much this new Real ID is going to cost you. Standard DL fee + an extra fee for Real ID. Why pay more if you already have a passport. Just another way to make more money IMO.
plus obtaining a certified birth certificate from the state you were born in, which is not free. My state won't accept your original birth certificate as proof that you were born in the USA.
I didn't have to pay any extra. It was automatically added to my license when I renewed. I showed a certified birth certificate and social security card when I first moved here to get my license. Fortunately that was in the days before Covid when you could go to the DPS without an appointment.
As of recent estimates, approximately 44% of Americans hold a U.S. passport. Real ID is a viable option for the 76% that do not want to get a passport.
This is how government tyrant frauds operate. Everything they jam up your behind they and the media tells you it's for your own good and safety. Here's a tip. It's not.
Not really though. Since it’s handed by the state. I’ve been to Colombia and they have a national ID system. One ID given by the government. Not from the state.
American citizens have a constitutional right to vote. They do not have a constitutional right to fly. Also, airports are federally secured areas. Voting places are not federally secured areas.
And all the people who don't have a passport because they never travel outside the country or haven't in so long it's expired? They should just spend the time and money to get a passport to fly to Disney or whatever!
As of recent estimates, approximately 44% of Americans hold a U.S. passport. Real ID is a viable option for the 76% that do not want to get a passport.
And no mention of the fact they kept pushing it back for decades because it was a disaster. They keep high resolution scans of your documents for 7 years. They interconnect the DMVs for all the states so the state with the worst security puts everyone's data at risk. If you ever had a legal name change, the documentation burden is more difficult. They require high resolution photos for facial recognition, which has repeatedly been proven to be flawed. If you don't want to carry your passport for domestic travel, you can also use a passport card.
Yeah, MAGA wants to arrest women traveling to another state to get an abortion if it's banned in their home state. I can see the same crowd requiring "papers."
I’m from the midwest, some years ago I was randomly harassed when driving through New Mexico, being asked to prove my U.S. citizenship; being naive & feeling intimidated, was relieved i had my passport on hand due to recent out of country travel, if this were to happen now, I would challenge the request, i.e., ask regarding probable cause/if i was being detained, otherwise that I’d be on my way, etc.; ironic how the U.S. boasts diversity yet flaunts discrimination
It's not racist to ask for ID, only republicans spin it that people think it is racist. Im not a republican or dem, and I do not think it is racist. in fact why not have an ID? except for poor ppl who can't afford one like homeless people etc. but still. IDs should be free.
@@FleurPillager It costs nothing extra to get Real ID. When you renew your driver's license, or if you don't drive, your state ID, you simply bring proper documentation. Your real birth certificate and one or two of a number of other accepted documents to prove your address. Not a tax and no extra fee. Just a little extra effort the first time.
@@richardsequeirateixeira You are, obviously, not old enough to remember the cold war dogma, where one is taught to fear things like violence or being thrown in prison for something as trivial as not supplying proper identification. We have become what we were taught to fear Soviet Rusia would oppress us with if ever the, "commies," won.
Its due to Patriot Act signed by Bush...thats when we began losing our liberties in modern timesl then when the Russians moved into the white house with Trump it got ramped up.
That program used to be opt-in, and you could still get a regular license from your state. Now they're pretty much making it mandatory. You shouldn't have to have a mandatory ID to make sure your travels aren't molested.
You've always had to have a ID to travel. A regular state-issued drivers license or state ID (or passport) was always mandatory for flight (or, really, any type of travel). Real ID is just an updated version of a driver's license. It's not any kind of big conspiracy. It's just an ID that's more difficult to fake/forge. When I renewed my state-issued driver's license a little over a year ago, I just got the Real ID. It cost like $30 and it's exactly the same process as getting a "regular" driver's license.
@BlackHoleForge it because necessary because of 9/11. Many states refusing to implement the program caused years of delays. COVID was the last delay, no more delays. My DL has been RID for many years now.
@@SkaryGrrlyeah, actually. It is. First Real ID I got back in 2016 when I had a change of address. It was done online, zero hassle. I got a second Real ID when I auto renewed online. My third Real ID I got this year, and had to physically go in, show documents (my valid passport), so the vision test, and have an updated picture taken. It was annoying, but it had also been 12 years since I last had to go in person, and so they periodically like to inconvenience you. But it’s no different then when I went in 1998, to get my very first drivers license. Well, minus the written test they make the kids take.
Uh, you need to register to vote before you can vote. That requires a valid, acceptable form of ID and SS number. Voting is also a Constitutional right much as you'd love to suppress it. Also, still waiting for Republicans to prove any widespread voter fraud whatsoever.
Voting is a civil duty and right where travel is not and considered a privilege. Therefore voting with an ID requires that the state or federal government pay for it otherwise it is prohibiting someone from fulfilling their civil duty and while I'm sure there are a few votes that gets through the cracks denying an American citizen their right and civil obligation is against our constitution before the potential of an illegal vote is. Considering that each basic ID for those without cost at least $10 to the government that's millions of dollars for each state just for those that don't have a basic ID to be able to vote. I don't suppose you're going to want to pay for it with your tax dollars are you? Especially not with all the extra paperwork for real ID that cost another $10 more.
@PatrickBryson... The local government doesn't have to pay for anything when it comes to IDs and what little it costs is more than manageable. So much nonsense...
It surprises me, it shouldn't, but does-the stuff they sneak in before announcing. Like the automatic draft. My son received his 3 months before it was announced.
I know I don't have it because I never provided a birth certificate and two proofs of residency when I last renewed my Drivers Licences and they ask'd me and I told them I don't want it. I don't fly and I have no need to go into a federal building.
Yes, a Global Entry card can be used as a valid form of identification in place of a Real ID at airport security checkpoints for domestic flights within the United States. The Global Entry card is a government-issued ID that is recognized by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). However, it is important to note that the Global Entry card is not valid for entry into federal buildings or nuclear power plants, which are other situations where a Real ID might be required.
But this is discrimination against women who divorced and can't find documents. I now have to send out of state for divorce document AFTER GETTING FORMS NOTarized. Don't change your name ladies. It just costs more. Men don't have to do any of this!
Sounds like a crock of💩 to me. It’s apparent that airlines in America won’t be helped by this considering the rash of unruly passengers that have caused diverted flights and serious incidents in flight with crew and passengers. Save time and just use your passport and be done with it. And what’s with all of the documents they request, isn’t your passport good enough, especially those that have been issued within the last few years. Don’t States have readers that can read your chipped passport and issue you a "secure" drivers license? You can always drive to your destination and see America as it was done in the 50’s and 60’s.
You can use your passport...if you have one. As of recent estimates, approximately 44% of Americans hold a U.S. passport. Real ID is a viable option for the 76% that do not want to get a passport.
luckily got it done last year when I needed to update my license anyway due to expiration and went for a real ID which is easy as it can simply be on your license with the star symbol as explained so no issues.
@@FreeRadical09 but somehow made the trip from their country to cross our border illegally, then be processed by CBP them released with a court date and trip to a sanctuary city of their choice. So again, go there and see for yourself like I have. 🤡
Uh yeah. Voting is a Constitutional right and there's zero evidence of widespread fraud that would have remotely affected the outcome of any election so purposefully throwing in obstacles to suppress the vote w/o any justification is undemocratic and unpatriotic. Flying on an airplane is not a Constitutional right and the consequences of letting unauthorized people on flights can and has proven disastrous.
You have a constitutional right to vote. You do not have a constitutional right to fly. Also, voting polls are not federally secured areas, but airport secured areas are.
Or, if you are an Asylum seeker here illegally, all you need is a piece of paper. TSA will even take your picture on their phone for you when you go through the security area. Meanwhile, we all have to pay extra for the ID.
Let me understand... we need all of this, AND to obtain this ID we need SS card and proof of residency etc. BUT, we can't require voters of our Presidency elections to produce the same when voting cause some people have 4 years in between elections to get ID but don't know how and it would be racist to request it... but for other purposes it's required?
American citizens have a constitutional right to vote. They do not a have constitutional right to fly. Plus, airports are federally secured ares. The voting place is not a federal area.
They’ve been “implementing” this for over 20 years now. There’s no reason to believe they’re not going to extend the date yet again when we get close to the deadline.
@jbar_85... No! It isn't. If it was the same (but with a star) YOU WOULD NOT NEED TO ORESENT DOCUMENTS. Please, people!!! Stop telling people who care enough to give it a tad of thoughtful consideration that it is the same as it clearly isn't. (This is especially true IF it automatically updates where you live as you move? Since when is that "the same"?) 🙄
@@dcarr-kr7hk to get a state ID or license prior to real ID requirements you had to show some documentation to verify who you are. Real ID just requires different ones. Sheesh. Calm down. It is the same except it has a star and requires different documents to provide.
This is a Republican ploy to keep poor people from voting. In Tennessee, the only places to get them are located outside cities, in locations that require a vehicle to access. They are also too expensive for many people to afford. I also use my passport, but they’re hard to get, too. The thought is that poor people are Democrats, another assumption that may not be true.😊
@brendasnow8255 There is no cost, it's not something you have to purchase. When you renew your DL or ID card at the DMV it will be real ID compliant, just find out what additional documents you need to bring with you to your local DMV. US citizen by birth, by Naturalization and Legal residents(Green Card holders) will need it. Why would you want to risk traveling with in the US with your passport that cost hundreds of dollars to replace should you loose it. You will need to show that ID to enter federal buildings like courts etc.
@@whome1629 There is a cost and an inconvenience. Not everybody lives near a DMV or can take off work, etc. Until it is proven that there is widespread voter fraud, voting should not be restricted and suppressed. Simply claiming that elections are rigged w/o a shred of proof is not sufficient to deny/restrict ones Constitutional rights.
Wow Brenda, all that typing and effort to make what point? To make yourself feel better about being part of extremely unpopular politics? Your very clever and astute point has changed everyone's minds, congratulations! /s
@@nodata4662 As of July 31, 2024, all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and all five U.S. territories are issuing REAL ID-compliant driver's licenses and identification cards. Most states have had them long enough for citizens to at least be on their second one. So Brenda is asserting that it’s a republican conspiracy to keep citizens from driving since you can only get a drivers license out in the country.
no worries.. while the US citizens have to comply with this new id requirement... Illegal immigrants don't have to and still receive benefits from the Brandon administration.
Yes, a Global Entry card can be used as a valid form of identification in place of a Real ID at airport security checkpoints for domestic flights within the United States. The Global Entry card is a government-issued ID that is recognized by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). However, it is important to note that the Global Entry card is not valid for entry into federal buildings or nuclear power plants, which are other situations where a Real ID might be required.
Just typical governments governmenting. Nothing but a pain, a hassle and a burden on society and most of the common people. Keep it moving, everyone. Just continue using our passports, passport cards or driver's licenses as always. Nothing to see here.
You can use your passport...if you have one. As of recent estimates, approximately 44% of Americans hold a U.S. passport. Real ID is a viable option for the 76% that do not want to get a passport.
The comment section is “special.” This isn’t a new program, the deadline just keeps getting pushed back. They’ve been trying to do a Real ID for years. The original concept came after 9/11 happened because they wanted to standardize the way our IDs look and the requirements for an ID to cut down on fraudulent ID cards being used for travel. I switched my ID over to a Real ID back in 2019 and I live in Missouri which is definitely not a very progressive state. Y’all need to come outside more.
@@3R1CtheRED as someone who had a job were I was required to look at IDs all day and gather information from them, it would be nice to have a standard ID just for clarity’s sake. But also, it would be nice if each state had the same requirements for IDs/Driver’s Licenses so when you move you don’t have to update them or deal with them not being accepted for some purposes because they weren’t issued in that particular state.
@@tylerbhumphries convenience for those who are employed to enforce a governmental overreach on personal freedom isn’t nearly as important as the overreach itself.
Yep. Especially all the Illegals getting free reign of our country since 2020. But for us citizens, we can always just apply for one and get a passport or use a passport card. There's no need for all this other mess. Typical governments!
Well this is certainly racially motivated. IDs are difficult for black people to obtain and this will prevent them from flying. This needs to be scrapped immediately just like any voter ID laws.
Yeah sorry. It is not worth my time to go to the dmv and provide all my documents again just so I can have a star on my license. Especially when the dmv staff are slow and rude...I will just keep taking my passport...
The country is a big country. I can get flights cheaper sometimes than the gas it would cost round trip. And I don't need to spend a full day driving 18 hrs to get to my most frequent travel destination. When I can fly and even with a layover in Chicago, Charlotte or wherever it's less than 5 hrs total travel or less than 3 direct. Sure, let's drive 2400 miles round trip. Do the trip nonstop if I can. Sleep a ton when I get there. Waste multiple days of my time off and travel driving, sleeping from driving. Sure let's do that instead of flying!
@@robertjamesonmusic not true. A simple google search would show you how wrong you are. 15 states allow voter registration with no ID required. Maybe do a little research on your own next time 🤡
@@robertjamesonmusic maybe do a little research on your own next time 😂 a simple google search would’ve showed you that you were wrong. 15 states require no identification whatsoever when registering to vote. How embarrassing for you to be so wrong publicly🤣
Our president is enabling a genocide: "ok...." We're updating an optional document to travel: "I DESPISE MY COUNTRY" I'll take "entitled and living in a bubble" for 400, Alex
Americans already have a REAL ID issued by their respective state here in America. The 10th Amendment of American Constitution says that any power or right not specifically listed in the Constitution as belonging to the federal government belongs to individual states or the American people themselves. Amendment 10 to the Constitution was ratified on December 15th 1791. We Americans already have a REAL ID. Issued by our Home states.
Derp. If they want to fly they need an ID just like any other person. If they want to open a bank account, drive a car, buy alcohol, get a credit card, etc., etc., etc., they need an ID just like any other person. Good news for you: if you don't want to do any of those things, then you don't need an ID either.
@kenbob1071... When they were flown throughout the country )at night) during Covid in the thousands, did they need an ID? PLEASE stop lying to people! People -- do your own research (while you can) and don't just depend upon Google.
When did we not travel with a real ID? My mother has worked for the airlines for over 30 years. I didn't know you couldn't have a real ID. I mean, lm, also an American citizen, so maybe this is why I'm out of the loop, but this is new to me.
The Real ID Act, enacted on May 11, 2005, specified that after three years, from May 11, 2008, federal agencies would no longer accept identification documents that did not satisfy the standards. However, due to widespread opposition and refusal by many state governments to implement the provisions, the deadline was extended numerous times. On January 29, 2008, DHS issued the Real ID regulations, specifying a gradual implementation schedule. Until May 11, 2008, states and territories would have to become compliant with the Real ID Act or request an extension, which would be valid until December 31, 2009, and they could later request an additional extension to May 11, 2011. Documents issued by states and territories that were certified as compliant or that were granted an extension would continue to be accepted, even if the documents themselves did not satisfy the standards, until December 1, 2014, for people born after December 1, 1964, or until December 1, 2017, for others. After these last deadlines, identification documents themselves would have to satisfy the standards to be accepted by federal agencies. On March 7, 2011, DHS extended the deadline for states and territories to become compliant to January 15, 2013, but all identification documents continued to be accepted during 2013. On December 29, 2014, DHS extended the deadline for documents to satisfy the standards to October 1, 2020, regardless of age. Enforcement based on the issuing state or territory finally began in 2014 and 2015 for accessing federal facilities, and in 2018 for boarding airline flights:
How is it that the IRS knows exactly who I am when I owe them money, but have to prove who I am to the government for everything else?
Because your SSN kinda sorta works as an identification number.
Not now after social security info has been hacked from a credit reporting agency.
@AdverseOpinion... That's not why. 😄
Funny you should mention the IRS in this connection. I have not actually had issues proving myself to them, but in spring 2023, my state made me produce my passport or birth certificate, my license, my Social Security Card, a utility bill in my name at my taxpaying address, and something from my bank showing the last 4 digits of my direct deposit account before they would send me my 2022 tax refund. These were more documents than they required when I got my Real ID a few months later.
@@AdverseOpinion Sadly that's not really legal , but government is above that
How does this protect against fraud when our social security numbers are already in the hands of criminals?
Then you have problems already.
This isn't about protecting fraud or you. It's about post 9/11 government tyrants doing what they do.
The official purposes covered by the Act and regulation are:
Accessing certain federal facilities;
Boarding Federally regulated commercial aircraft; and
Entering nuclear power plants.
From the DHS website, this nonsense was passed almost 20 years ago.
You see it's critical for fraud blah blah. What a bunch of nonsense.
Airport security does not use Social Security Numbers for identification.
Bingo
L3ft politics and wok3 mindset, but hey! It's our fault, not theirs
I’ll just use my passport. Not wasting my time and money on this
I've had a real ID ever since they distributed them, I didn't even know it was a thing but it is automatically given to you if you bring your birth certificate. You don't pay more for it, and yeah passports work but still it's just automatic next time you renew your license.
@@holographictopiarySame. Had one since a 2016 move of address. I didn’t have to show any birth certificate, because it was done automatically online. Now then, when I had to get my third Real ID, (second was renewed online), I had to go in person. That’s when they wanted to see documents, but I had a valid passport, which was enough.
Real I.D. is a federal data base that will be able to track you. With a passport, they will have your current address once every10 years. With the Real I.D., you voluntarily update your address every time you move.
@@SheLoveSports
If the government actually cares about tracking you, trust me, not having a real id isn't going to keep you hidden. There's a million ways you're already being tracked. You drive a car and ever passed a toll? Even without something like EZ Pass, they know you crossed the toll. Ever used a credit card? Have a cell phone (not even a smart phone)? With a cell phone, you can be pinpointed down to 15 feet. Again, this is assuming you're someone to government actually wants to track, like if you're doing nefarious stuff!
@@JohnSkyLey whine
Whine
WHINE
Things are so bad these days that they had to call this “REAL” ID .. what’s next, REAL Passport? 😂
No. An ordinary passport can substitute for a Real ID card.
@@RaymondHngwhoosh
They’re making sure guys with names like AHMED are legit.😂
This is messed up
They never stop tightening the noose.
This was passed by law very shortly after 9/11/2001
It's not tightening the noose, just returning to having people prove their identity before issuing them a proof of identity. The change came when states issued DLs based on someone simply saying who they were without any proof of identity. Now we're just retuning to what had been the standard before.
And turning screws
It never ends
Bring Me The Horizon - "It never ends"
@eddenoy321.... "You'll have nothing and be happy." (2030 hopes/plans for all of us not in "the club" = most of us.)
It will end.
But by that time we will have become the slaves they desire us to be and (their hope/goal is) most of you will be compliant.
By the time more people understand that real freedom isn't free?
It will be too late. 😓
It ends when you and everyone else does something about. Too bad we've been conditioned to not do what we need to do.
I just got my real ID, going on 72, funny been driving since I was 17, now I have to prove who I am.
I'm 65 and I agree!!
@jonimoore1994... They don't really care about who you are.
Knowing WHERE you are just makes it easier in case they decide to come for you. (Ask Eric Snowden)
But not when you're voting.
@@mrtee3477 The polls are not federally secured areas. The airport secured area is a federally secured area. You have a constitutional right to vote. You do not have a constitutional right to fly.
I always show my wallet-sized passport card when traveling by air or train or bus. They don't need to know if I am coming home or leaving home.
That sounds cool, I wonder if that is available in Canada for us folks,
They still track your information when traveling….
@@westbccoast No, Canada does not issue a passport card. Canada only issues traditional passport booklets. In contrast, the United States offers both a passport book and a passport card, with the card being a more convenient option for land and sea travel between the U.S., Canada, Mexico, the Caribbean, and Bermuda. The Canadian passport booklet is the only official travel document for Canadians, used for international air travel and all other travel scenarios requiring a passport.
What a “Real” Joke😂
Don’t whine! Most states already have real ID drivers license and state ID’s. It takes 3 minutes online to find out if yours is.
it REALly is
@@JaneJetsinshut up
@@sarahbaartmansrevenge Joke is drama queens that already have Real IDs and are to S T U P 1 D to know it!
Whine princes whine
No they don’t that’s why it’s been pushed back 23 years
One thing that wasn’t mentioned for whatever reason, is how much this new Real ID is going to cost you. Standard DL fee + an extra fee for Real ID. Why pay more if you already have a passport. Just another way to make more money IMO.
plus obtaining a certified birth certificate from the state you were born in, which is not free. My state won't accept your original birth certificate as proof that you were born in the USA.
I didn't have to pay any extra. It was automatically added to my license when I renewed. I showed a certified birth certificate and social security card when I first moved here to get my license. Fortunately that was in the days before Covid when you could go to the DPS without an appointment.
As of recent estimates, approximately 44% of Americans hold a U.S. passport. Real ID is a viable option for the 76% that do not want to get a passport.
This needs to stop. Its not reducing fraud.
This is how government tyrant frauds operate. Everything they jam up your behind they and the media tells you it's for your own good and safety.
Here's a tip. It's not.
So basically a national ID card. Call it what it is. Sounds like Soviet era travel.
Exactly what it is 👏
Next you will have to submit your political party on your identity.
Not really though. Since it’s handed by the state. I’ve been to Colombia and they have a national ID system. One ID given by the government. Not from the state.
@@celebrityrog I’m old, and I agree.
Nope. Sounds like they're moving towards the "mark". Key flag words here - "biometric id"
“You vill show zee papers!”
I don’t get how it’s okay that I have to prove in a US citizen to fly in my own country but no such thing is required to vote. This crazy world.
American citizens have a constitutional right to vote. They do not have a constitutional right to fly. Also, airports are federally secured areas. Voting places are not federally secured areas.
Travel with your passport instead in order to avoid the mess.
And all the people who don't have a passport because they never travel outside the country or haven't in so long it's expired?
They should just spend the time and money to get a passport to fly to Disney or whatever!
@albundy06 I don't think you need to worry about flying. Not with your dodge Plymouth duster.
As of recent estimates, approximately 44% of Americans hold a U.S. passport. Real ID is a viable option for the 76% that do not want to get a passport.
@@RaymondHng Didn't know that America's population is at 120%.
@@gj8683 No. Of the population who do not hold a passport, 76% of them do not want to obtain a passport.
And no mention of the fact they kept pushing it back for decades because it was a disaster. They keep high resolution scans of your documents for 7 years. They interconnect the DMVs for all the states so the state with the worst security puts everyone's data at risk. If you ever had a legal name change, the documentation burden is more difficult. They require high resolution photos for facial recognition, which has repeatedly been proven to be flawed. If you don't want to carry your passport for domestic travel, you can also use a passport card.
A passport card is a separate expense from a passport booklet.
Next it will be when you drive from state to state. "Your Papers Please!!" Sound familiar!?
Yeah, MAGA wants to arrest women traveling to another state to get an abortion if it's banned in their home state. I can see the same crowd requiring "papers."
Not at all. 😂
I’m from the midwest, some years ago I was randomly harassed when driving through New Mexico, being asked to prove my U.S. citizenship; being naive & feeling intimidated, was relieved i had my passport on hand due to recent out of country travel, if this were to happen now, I would challenge the request, i.e., ask regarding probable cause/if i was being detained, otherwise that I’d be on my way, etc.; ironic how the U.S. boasts diversity yet flaunts discrimination
no
If needing an ID to vote is considered racist, is this also considered racist?
If your not flying the plane why have ID ? Is everyone broading a plane a potential suspect of some sort.🧐
@@phoenixr6811 yes
It's not racist to ask for ID, only republicans spin it that people think it is racist. Im not a republican or dem, and I do not think it is racist. in fact why not have an ID? except for poor ppl who can't afford one like homeless people etc. but still. IDs should be free.
@@holographictopiaryrepublicans are the one spinning it and saying that?! I think you mean democrats are the ones always saying it’s racist.
@@FleurPillager
It costs nothing extra to get Real ID.
When you renew your driver's license, or if you don't drive, your state ID, you simply bring proper documentation. Your real birth certificate and one or two of a number of other accepted documents to prove your address.
Not a tax and no extra fee. Just a little extra effort the first time.
Its to track people
Why not just use a passport?
it's optional. This is all in 1 and most US citizens have a drivers License
Sure. ‘Cause everyone has those?
Passports are expensive 🫰
@@aaronlane8276you need a passport to apply for a real id
Illegals are issued DL LOL
I've had one for years
Welcome to the new Soviet Union of America, where documents must be in proper order to travel.
Cue the Indiana Jones scene, with you trying to travel for a quick trip. State troopers: "No papers? Nope, can't let you pass."
This is has been in the making since the early-mid 2000s. Nothing Soviet about it.
@@richardsequeirateixeira You are, obviously, not old enough to remember the cold war dogma, where one is taught to fear things like violence or being thrown in prison for something as trivial as not supplying proper identification. We have become what we were taught to fear Soviet Rusia would oppress us with if ever the, "commies," won.
Its due to Patriot Act signed by Bush...thats when we began losing our liberties in modern timesl then when the Russians moved into the white house with Trump it got ramped up.
Real ID is last step to having yourself chipped like a dog!
The chip is mark of the beast666
That program used to be opt-in, and you could still get a regular license from your state. Now they're pretty much making it mandatory. You shouldn't have to have a mandatory ID to make sure your travels aren't molested.
You've always had to have a ID to travel. A regular state-issued drivers license or state ID (or passport) was always mandatory for flight (or, really, any type of travel).
Real ID is just an updated version of a driver's license. It's not any kind of big conspiracy. It's just an ID that's more difficult to fake/forge. When I renewed my state-issued driver's license a little over a year ago, I just got the Real ID. It cost like $30 and it's exactly the same process as getting a "regular" driver's license.
You can actually use it in lieu of a passport between us and Canada as well. Kinda neat.
@@jonathanevenboer no, not always
@BlackHoleForge it because necessary because of 9/11. Many states refusing to implement the program caused years of delays. COVID was the last delay, no more delays. My DL has been RID for many years now.
@@SkaryGrrlyeah, actually. It is. First Real ID I got back in 2016 when I had a change of address. It was done online, zero hassle. I got a second Real ID when I auto renewed online. My third Real ID I got this year, and had to physically go in, show documents (my valid passport), so the vision test, and have an updated picture taken. It was annoying, but it had also been 12 years since I last had to go in person, and so they periodically like to inconvenience you. But it’s no different then when I went in 1998, to get my very first drivers license. Well, minus the written test they make the kids take.
Unless you're an illegal, then you can fly with no name. Or if you're an illegal with fake documents, you are also golden.
So traveling without special ID =bad. Voting without ID=good
It's fine with me.
Uh, you need to register to vote before you can vote. That requires a valid, acceptable form of ID and SS number. Voting is also a Constitutional right much as you'd love to suppress it. Also, still waiting for Republicans to prove any widespread voter fraud whatsoever.
I don't see what the problem is
Voting is a civil duty and right where travel is not and considered a privilege. Therefore voting with an ID requires that the state or federal government pay for it otherwise it is prohibiting someone from fulfilling their civil duty and while I'm sure there are a few votes that gets through the cracks denying an American citizen their right and civil obligation is against our constitution before the potential of an illegal vote is. Considering that each basic ID for those without cost at least $10 to the government that's millions of dollars for each state just for those that don't have a basic ID to be able to vote. I don't suppose you're going to want to pay for it with your tax dollars are you? Especially not with all the extra paperwork for real ID that cost another $10 more.
@PatrickBryson... The local government doesn't have to pay for anything when it comes to IDs and what little it costs is more than manageable.
So much nonsense...
My license has it. All you guys freaking out you probably have it already.
It surprises me, it shouldn't, but does-the stuff they sneak in before announcing. Like the automatic draft. My son received his 3 months before it was announced.
I know I don't have it because I never provided a birth certificate and two proofs of residency when I last renewed my Drivers Licences and they ask'd me and I told them I don't want it. I don't fly and I have no need to go into a federal building.
Also people should freak out to a Soviet Style National ID card.
I have global entry, that works too
Then you have a passport and that works too.
Yes, a Global Entry card can be used as a valid form of identification in place of a Real ID at airport security checkpoints for domestic flights within the United States. The Global Entry card is a government-issued ID that is recognized by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). However, it is important to note that the Global Entry card is not valid for entry into federal buildings or nuclear power plants, which are other situations where a Real ID might be required.
But this is discrimination against women who divorced and can't find documents. I now have to send out of state for divorce document AFTER GETTING FORMS NOTarized. Don't change your name ladies. It just costs more. Men don't have to do any of this!
You lost your DL in a divorce?
It's better to get a passport and use it for travel.
You should've maintained your forms properly. Has nothing to do with changing your name or other women who choose to do so. Accountability.
Bro dodged a bullet with you.
I never legally changed my name, but I *still* have problems just because people/companies *assumed* I changed my name as a married woman.
Sounds like a crock of💩 to me. It’s apparent that airlines in America won’t be helped by this considering the rash of unruly passengers that have caused diverted flights and serious incidents in flight with crew and passengers. Save time and just use your passport and be done with it. And what’s with all of the documents they request, isn’t your passport good enough, especially those that have been issued within the last few years. Don’t States have readers that can read your chipped passport and issue you a "secure" drivers license? You can always drive to your destination and see America as it was done in the 50’s and 60’s.
You can use your passport...if you have one. As of recent estimates, approximately 44% of Americans hold a U.S. passport. Real ID is a viable option for the 76% that do not want to get a passport.
The lady on zoom looks high af, glitching out
@@holographictopiary If you have one. Most people don’t.
I'm just going to get my passport...because America is getting shaky as each day goes by.
luckily got it done last year when I needed to update my license anyway due to expiration and went for a real ID which is easy as it can simply be on your license with the star symbol as explained so no issues.
If you're an illegal immigrant flying in the US you go through a small gate next to it. Go to San Diego airport and see for yourself.
Lizard aliens are eating humans too?
Yeah, because people that can't afford to get a visa through the legal way actually can afford plane tickets 🤣🤣🤣
@@FreeRadical09 but somehow made the trip from their country to cross our border illegally, then be processed by CBP them released with a court date and trip to a sanctuary city of their choice. So again, go there and see for yourself like I have. 🤡
@@JaneJetsin You didn't go there for yourself did you?
You go through a small gate next to "it"?? Can you be a bit more nebulous?
But not to vote ??
Uh yeah. Voting is a Constitutional right and there's zero evidence of widespread fraud that would have remotely affected the outcome of any election so purposefully throwing in obstacles to suppress the vote w/o any justification is undemocratic and unpatriotic. Flying on an airplane is not a Constitutional right and the consequences of letting unauthorized people on flights can and has proven disastrous.
You have a constitutional right to vote. You do not have a constitutional right to fly. Also, voting polls are not federally secured areas, but airport secured areas are.
Or, if you are an Asylum seeker here illegally, all you need is a piece of paper. TSA will even take your picture on their phone for you when you go through the security area. Meanwhile, we all have to pay extra for the ID.
Will minors need a Real ID as well?
Right
Did you not hear her say 18 and up?
@@whome1629 No, I missed it. Thanks for letting me know.
Get your minor one anyways, that way they are already established. It's hell trying to get one as an unhoused adult.
Oh for God's sake, the DHS just needs to scrap this thing already. It's already been delayed for DECADES now. What's the point of mandating it now?!
Easy, helps block poor voters who would normally vote democrat.
i remember when blizzard wanted "realID" as in everyones real names on display for use on their public web forums
Voting booths at the airport 😮
I fixed it!
Totally unnecessary but a big W for Klaus Schwab and his pals. This is dystopian stuff.
Let me understand... we need all of this, AND to obtain this ID we need SS card and proof of residency etc. BUT, we can't require voters of our Presidency elections to produce the same when voting cause some people have 4 years in between elections to get ID but don't know how and it would be racist to request it... but for other purposes it's required?
American citizens have a constitutional right to vote. They do not a have constitutional right to fly. Plus, airports are federally secured ares. The voting place is not a federal area.
In case it gets pushed back again
ID requirements for US citizens to travel domestically, but none to enter our borders illegally or to vote? 🤨
We no longer have freedom of travel?
I recommend watching the video. It's not that long.
Don’t whine! Most states already have real ID drivers license and state ID’s. It takes 3 minutes online to find out if yours is.
Don’t whine! Most states already have real ID drivers license and state ID’s. It takes 3 minutes online to find out if yours is.
You have feet don’t you?
No, only John Paul Webb no longer has the freedom to travel. Please do not come out of your mom's basement as that is now illegal.
They’ve been “implementing” this for over 20 years now. There’s no reason to believe they’re not going to extend the date yet again when we get close to the deadline.
Even with an appointment at your friendly DMV, the wait time is 1-3 hours.
Another ID just to travel. Why is it that our old ID isn’t good enough? Meanwhile I can go vote without an ID 😂
It’s your same ID but updated with a star on it show compliance with the Real ID program.
@jbar_85... No! It isn't.
If it was the same (but with a star) YOU WOULD NOT NEED TO ORESENT DOCUMENTS.
Please, people!!!
Stop telling people who care enough to give it a tad of thoughtful consideration that it is the same as it clearly isn't.
(This is especially true IF it automatically updates where you live as you move? Since when is that "the same"?) 🙄
@@dcarr-kr7hk to get a state ID or license prior to real ID requirements you had to show some documentation to verify who you are. Real ID just requires different ones. Sheesh. Calm down. It is the same except it has a star and requires different documents to provide.
This is a Republican ploy to keep poor people from voting. In Tennessee, the only places to get them are located outside cities, in locations that require a vehicle to access. They are also too expensive for many people to afford. I also use my passport, but they’re hard to get, too. The thought is that poor people are Democrats, another assumption that may not be true.😊
@brendasnow8255 There is no cost, it's not something you have to purchase. When you renew your DL or ID card at the DMV it will be real ID compliant, just find out what additional documents you need to bring with you to your local DMV. US citizen by birth, by Naturalization and Legal residents(Green Card holders) will need it. Why would you want to risk traveling with in the US with your passport that cost hundreds of dollars to replace should you loose it. You will need to show that ID to enter federal buildings like courts etc.
Whiny drama princess.
@@whome1629 There is a cost and an inconvenience. Not everybody lives near a DMV or can take off work, etc. Until it is proven that there is widespread voter fraud, voting should not be restricted and suppressed. Simply claiming that elections are rigged w/o a shred of proof is not sufficient to deny/restrict ones Constitutional rights.
Wow Brenda, all that typing and effort to make what point? To make yourself feel better about being part of extremely unpopular politics?
Your very clever and astute point has changed everyone's minds, congratulations! /s
@@nodata4662 As of July 31, 2024, all 50 states, the District of Columbia, and all five U.S. territories are issuing REAL ID-compliant driver's licenses and identification cards. Most states have had them long enough for citizens to at least be on their second one.
So Brenda is asserting that it’s a republican conspiracy to keep citizens from driving since you can only get a drivers license out in the country.
no worries.. while the US citizens have to comply with this new id requirement... Illegal immigrants don't have to and still receive benefits from the Brandon administration.
Undocumented immigrants would not be able to fly domestically then.
Illegal immigrants don't take planes. You won't need this if you don't take planes either
Love that undershirt and last minute formal coat combo!
That’s so racist!!
How ?
🤣🤣
Anything that involves protecting America is considered racist by people looking to exploit and destroy the US
Lame. Restricting one's right to vote and private airlines requiring ID are two different stories.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
You can also use a Global Entry Card instead of a Real ID.
Yes, a Global Entry card can be used as a valid form of identification in place of a Real ID at airport security checkpoints for domestic flights within the United States. The Global Entry card is a government-issued ID that is recognized by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). However, it is important to note that the Global Entry card is not valid for entry into federal buildings or nuclear power plants, which are other situations where a Real ID might be required.
This has been "looming" for years
Just typical governments governmenting. Nothing but a pain, a hassle and a burden on society and most of the common people. Keep it moving, everyone. Just continue using our passports, passport cards or driver's licenses as always. Nothing to see here.
You can use your passport...if you have one. As of recent estimates, approximately 44% of Americans hold a U.S. passport. Real ID is a viable option for the 76% that do not want to get a passport.
Unless you are illegal
So all this time we had fake ID but a elementary star makes it real🤣
The comment section is “special.” This isn’t a new program, the deadline just keeps getting pushed back. They’ve been trying to do a Real ID for years. The original concept came after 9/11 happened because they wanted to standardize the way our IDs look and the requirements for an ID to cut down on fraudulent ID cards being used for travel. I switched my ID over to a Real ID back in 2019 and I live in Missouri which is definitely not a very progressive state. Y’all need to come outside more.
That doesn’t mean it’s an overreaching, bad idea.
@@3R1CtheRED as someone who had a job were I was required to look at IDs all day and gather information from them, it would be nice to have a standard ID just for clarity’s sake. But also, it would be nice if each state had the same requirements for IDs/Driver’s Licenses so when you move you don’t have to update them or deal with them not being accepted for some purposes because they weren’t issued in that particular state.
@@tylerbhumphries convenience for those who are employed to enforce a governmental overreach on personal freedom isn’t nearly as important as the overreach itself.
@@3R1CtheREDexplain the over reach?
Many people don't have passports.
Yep. Especially all the Illegals getting free reign of our country since 2020. But for us citizens, we can always just apply for one and get a passport or use a passport card. There's no need for all this other mess. Typical governments!
Guess I wont be traveling sick of bailing out corporations anyway as a tax payer
Well this is certainly racially motivated. IDs are difficult for black people to obtain and this will prevent them from flying. This needs to be scrapped immediately just like any voter ID laws.
I’ll believe it when I see it. They have been saying this would go into effect for at least 12 years now
This is so dumb… this isn’t about safety or security at all. This is just a way to get more money from you…
This is not an extra document, it's you're drivers license. The only visual difference is the gold star on it.
Edit: Oh it's not the same everywhere.
@3DJapan... Again! If the only difference was "the star" you would not be required to present additional documents.
Enough said.
So is the real ID all you need to get a passport????
more reasons that traveling is overrated
Yeah sorry. It is not worth my time to go to the dmv and provide all my documents again just so I can have a star on my license. Especially when the dmv staff are slow and rude...I will just keep taking my passport...
It may take a bit longer but for free travel / free hotels to the greatest cities in America just walk across the southern boarder.
TSA requires "real ID compliant driver's licenses." The state must comply. In Utah they add a gold star.
I will not comply.
Then you will not be able to fly domestically unless you have a passport or Global Entry card.
Who cares ? Just drive it’s cheaper and no BS at the airport either.
The country is a big country. I can get flights cheaper sometimes than the gas it would cost round trip. And I don't need to spend a full day driving 18 hrs to get to my most frequent travel destination.
When I can fly and even with a layover in Chicago, Charlotte or wherever it's less than 5 hrs total travel or less than 3 direct.
Sure, let's drive 2400 miles round trip. Do the trip nonstop if I can. Sleep a ton when I get there. Waste multiple days of my time off and travel driving, sleeping from driving. Sure let's do that instead of flying!
I'm not going to drive from the West Coast to the East Coast.
“This is so technical”… WTH?!? Weak Sauce, mister news reader dude
You need an ID to fly but not to vote. Makes alot of sense.
If you don’t present a valid voter registration card, you MUST show ID.
@@UmmYeahOk perhaps where you’re at. But overall only 35 states require ID in order to
Vote
Wtf are you talking about? You have to be registered to vote and the only way you can register is by proving your identity
@@robertjamesonmusic not true. A simple google search would show you how wrong you are. 15 states allow voter registration with no ID required. Maybe do a little research on your own next time 🤡
@@robertjamesonmusic maybe do a little research on your own next time 😂 a simple google search would’ve showed you that you were wrong. 15 states require no identification whatsoever when registering to vote. How embarrassing for you to be so wrong publicly🤣
Delay to 2028 please
They've been delaying it for decades. Will happen again, most likely. 😂😂
The federal government should issue the Passport Cards (rather than books) to all U.S. citizens and use them for traveling.
They keep extending the date, now 2027
As a somewhat new driver i already got the 'REAL ID' part of my drivers license. Woo hoo i suppose
Still doesn't need one to vote though.
i'm starting to despise my own country...
Our president is enabling a genocide: "ok...."
We're updating an optional document to travel: "I DESPISE MY COUNTRY"
I'll take "entitled and living in a bubble" for 400, Alex
Americans already have a REAL ID issued by their respective state here in America. The 10th Amendment of American Constitution says that any power or right not specifically listed in the Constitution as belonging to the federal government belongs to individual states or the American people themselves. Amendment 10 to the Constitution was ratified on December 15th 1791. We Americans already have a REAL ID. Issued by our Home states.
Everyone’s a home-schooled Constitutional scholar 🙄
Most are but not everyone.
It’s 2024 and they still can’t verify stuff 😂
This program started after 9/11. They’re just now finalizing it with all the remaining states not in compliance.
Usa is so behind in technology. Why do we need to physically go to DMV to apply for Real ID when our files are already online?
I always have my State ID, Military ID and US passport whenever I travel domestic and international😊
Why not simply use the passport?
Gone to the dmv three times to get the real id and they f-ed up three times. Ive given up. At least i can use my passport
Its so handy!
Illegals are not required to have ID. Only Americans citizens.
Derp. If they want to fly they need an ID just like any other person. If they want to open a bank account, drive a car, buy alcohol, get a credit card, etc., etc., etc., they need an ID just like any other person.
Good news for you: if you don't want to do any of those things, then you don't need an ID either.
@kenbob1071... When they were flown throughout the country )at night) during Covid in the thousands, did they need an ID?
PLEASE stop lying to people!
People -- do your own research (while you can) and don't just depend upon Google.
I don't get it. Isn't your driver's license a real ID as well? Lol
Pointless.
It’s not secure, personal info can be scanned off that real ID.
I feel like this is an evergreen report..'prepare to have your REAL ID'...this was in 2014. See y'all in 2034:for the 20th anniversary!
When did we not travel with a real ID? My mother has worked for the airlines for over 30 years. I didn't know you couldn't have a real ID. I mean, lm, also an American citizen, so maybe this is why I'm out of the loop, but this is new to me.
The Real ID Act, enacted on May 11, 2005, specified that after three years, from May 11, 2008, federal agencies would no longer accept identification documents that did not satisfy the standards. However, due to widespread opposition and refusal by many state governments to implement the provisions, the deadline was extended numerous times. On January 29, 2008, DHS issued the Real ID regulations, specifying a gradual implementation schedule. Until May 11, 2008, states and territories would have to become compliant with the Real ID Act or request an extension, which would be valid until December 31, 2009, and they could later request an additional extension to May 11, 2011. Documents issued by states and territories that were certified as compliant or that were granted an extension would continue to be accepted, even if the documents themselves did not satisfy the standards, until December 1, 2014, for people born after December 1, 1964, or until December 1, 2017, for others. After these last deadlines, identification documents themselves would have to satisfy the standards to be accepted by federal agencies.
On March 7, 2011, DHS extended the deadline for states and territories to become compliant to January 15, 2013, but all identification documents continued to be accepted during 2013. On December 29, 2014, DHS extended the deadline for documents to satisfy the standards to October 1, 2020, regardless of age.
Enforcement based on the issuing state or territory finally began in 2014 and 2015 for accessing federal facilities, and in 2018 for boarding airline flights:
If you got felony charges, goodluck dmv real id.
This is ridiculous
Social Credit System begins...
Don't tell the sovs that
Like most things in life, just say “heard” and get it done. Change is inevitable, no?