Im an old person and its been literally over 2 decades since I arrive from work to play a video game. I fed my cats, took off the shoes and just sat to play for 3 hours, *still wearing my work pants and shirt* which when I realized I was very surprised. I agree the Marvel IP helps but we've had Marvel games for over 40 years (Spider Man, Atari 2600, 1982) but it is the gameplay that these devs nailed so hard that skinning it with Marvel IP just made the whole thing unstoppable. Up to this point the only thing that can bury this game is a) another game being better or b) Netease shooting themselves in the foot. Both a and b is what is happening to Overwatch which has remained popular since 2016.
I’m noticing the pattern that western games keeps making flops and Eastern games are more banger like Rivals, Elden Ring, Resident Evil, Palworld, Wukong, and many more
Because eastern games aren’t trying to shove some message down your throat like western games are. They just wanna give you a fun game experience, while western games recently the actual game play seems to be an after thought
I hope they never be lapdogs for pro play or esports/competitive interest. I want them to keep it fun and interesting because that's what will feed them
Giga take. Marvel Rivals is everything the gaming companies and some gamers THOUGHT were already saturated or hated. The Super Hero genre, Hero shooters, 20 usd skins, and the Live service model. This proved them wrong.
We're at a point where companies are actually going out of their way to make their games worse. Marvel Rivals simply did what they all should have been doing all along, make a good game that is fun to play, don't make it predatory, and make it look great. Common sense things. They made it that easy for Marvel Rivals to succeed.
I wished Digital Extremes did not cancel The Amazing Eternals due to OW success. I wished Gundam Evolution, Battleborn, Evolve and Super Monday Night Combat stayed
gundam evolution deserved to end that game was unbelievably short & the character locking not letting multiple similar characters suck + the pay to win was ridiculous for such a short game, literally 2 minute games
i am going to start of by saying i am making a game for around 11 months ish and i do agree with most of your point but i am not going to say that i know more than you because i don't but something you never talked about was inde dev/studies. for triple AAA saturation isn't an issues because they can make the best game and have the time and money to do so but for inde you can't make the beast game because of time an money and that where saturation become and issues as how want to play a worse game and that where you struggle as you have to hope enough player like your game/ideas to make it viable. most people want the beast but as an inde you can't do that so saturation is an issues and i am scarred that my games going to fail because of that. sorry for ranting a bit but i hope you can take this in to considerations and as well the videos was good and i do agree with most of your points.
An indie dev's first few games usually fail, bud. There truly aren't that many success stories compared to the saturation. Even if yours fails, dont ever give up and either try again or expand on what you got. Rome wasn't built in a day nor was it built without failures.
yeah I do know that much and I don’t every plan on quitting but thanks and I do understand that much but I guess it a mix of naive think and hope it just mainly the idea within it I don’t want to died.
Haven't enjoyed a hero shooter as much since overwatch 1. Still not enjoying it as much as I did overwatch 1, probably because it was my first and that impression can't be overwritten, but it's been so long and with how disappointed I was with overwatch 2, I thought there wouldn't be another company that even bothered to try making another one.
Everyone was thinking that this game will flop hard but where they're now actually it's not their fault it's all those woke piece shits western devs fault
the game just needs to fix bugs & show some love to the characters that need it (respect some of the comic’s lore) like Omega level mutants somehow being weaker than a normal dude with arrows.. lol
If Blizzard made Marvel Rivals, Spiderman would've been Bi, Captain America be not American, the female cast be ugly and fat, and the Hulk be the MCU hulk.
@@jeanpierrepolnareff9919there is cheaters in quick match too. I have run into 1 Ironman who was using aimbot, a hella doing the same, another Ironman who never took damage no matter how much you hit him. They had no healers, he didn’t touch any of the health items. He was getting shot at. I got hit markers but his health never went down Also I love how so sure of yourself you are. You throw in the subtle “your bad” lines just to make yourself feel good or you just a miserable person who loves to assume? Go on don’t be shy which one is it😃
I only run into sketchy stuff when I don’t turn crossplay off. Thankfully console players tend to be more honest and don’t cheat except for the 1% noobs
Bot lobbies, apparently, are supposed to happen if you go on a losing streak. As a console player, turning off crossplay is an option for me in quick matches….if it feels like some cheating is going on. Third party tools usually aren’t a thing on console.
@@whatiswhat8061Baldur’s gate doesn’t pander tho? It just gives you a true to form d&d experience. Which typically lets you do whatever you want, regardless how bad or weird the idea
This is the most obsessed I have been with a video game (Not named Resident Evil for Final Fantasy VII) in the last decade. I'm sticking around until they give me a reason not to.
The reason Rivals succeeds is because of lack of competition. In many aspects Rivals lacks a lot of polish that Overwatch has but it doesn't matter since Overwatch is fumbling a lot if other things and there are no other hero shooters on the market.
The problem isn't competition. It's licensing. Can't wait for the Warner bros hero shooter with DC characters and Harry potter skins. I wonder when rivals will get Disney skins. Can't wait for Donald duck wolverine
It’s not gonna get Disney skins. That’s Fortnite. Plus if they was to do that and Warner followed suit it wouldn’t be “dc hero’s with Harry Potter skins” that wouldn’t be for awhile. But I absolutely do see a “dc super hero’s with looney toons skins”
@Nzzertral I think you underestimate corporate greed. Why do you think they hired a Chinese company in the first place? It's the same reason every other American company outsources labor. The game is an uninspired cash grab to keep players playing despite its mediocrity. Which is the other reason they hired net ease. They make phone games. Phone games are built around keeping players' attention and milking them with micro transactions. I'll give you 2 examples. 1. Wolverines default skin. Wolverine is one of the most beloved characters of all time without his xmen uniform. Why aren't all the other characters wearing plain clothes? Because they know that people will drop some cash for Wolverine to look like Wolverine. Not even mentioning his lazy kit. If you've played any mvc games, you can see Wolverine done right, and he can't even climb. I don't know how many times I've seen Wolverine use his claws to climb. Magneto could also be used in this example. 2. Bots in lobbies to make keep unskilled people playing and give them a sense that they are better than what they truly are. By their own words, this is what they're doing. Not only does it give people who are unaware this is being done a false sense of skill. It will also cause the players to flame more skilled players in real lobbies because "it can't be my fault, I got 30 kills last game." Also, adding bots to lobbies creates false short ques. One of the things everyone bragged about when the game first released. But, if you knew 1 of 3 matches had bots in it, would you rather wait 2 minutes for a real game or have 5 second ques, but one of the games is bots. Now that people are aware of this, net ease stated that if you are in a bot lobby and quit, you will sustain the same disciplinary action as if you quit a game with actual humans. It's just a way to manipulate people into continued playing and is as lame as giving someone a trophy just for showing up. It's a glorified phone game with a giant liscense. If it wasn't for marvel in the title, it might as well be concord rivals.
@ read a good chunk of that and you’re just further proving a point I have made before that you guys do nothing but complain and regurgitate what other have said but with a lil twist by adding your own words. I agree the menu feels like a glorified phone game. The rest of the game not so much. The bots are no more an issue than any other game. Especially modern COD. Even then you only get bot lobbies if you was already doing bad. Not really a cash grab, especially compared to its competitors and its FREE. Go be mad, it beat overwatch womp womp. Either play the game or shut up about it. You overwatch 🍆🚲 have been making the same lame excuses for the past 3 weeks.
been a while since I had fun in a hero shooter game tbh
Been a while since I've had fun playing a game
It is a meh game
MR is taking players from all genres, it's actually incredible.
Im an old person and its been literally over 2 decades since I arrive from work to play a video game. I fed my cats, took off the shoes and just sat to play for 3 hours, *still wearing my work pants and shirt* which when I realized I was very surprised. I agree the Marvel IP helps but we've had Marvel games for over 40 years (Spider Man, Atari 2600, 1982) but it is the gameplay that these devs nailed so hard that skinning it with Marvel IP just made the whole thing unstoppable. Up to this point the only thing that can bury this game is a) another game being better or b) Netease shooting themselves in the foot. Both a and b is what is happening to Overwatch which has remained popular since 2016.
I’m noticing the pattern that western games keeps making flops and Eastern games are more banger like Rivals, Elden Ring, Resident Evil, Palworld, Wukong, and many more
Because eastern games aren’t trying to shove some message down your throat like western games are. They just wanna give you a fun game experience, while western games recently the actual game play seems to be an after thought
@Nzzertral Baldurs Gate 3 disagrees with that assessment. It's about prioritizing gameplay and players, not pretend culture war nonsense
@@nihouma11 Baldur’s gate is unfortunately an anomaly in the current western AAA industry. My statement still stands and your comment agrees
Eastern games were a banger 20 YEARS AGO!!!!!
Just got Stellar Blade for Christmas and it's amazing as well.
I hope they never be lapdogs for pro play or esports/competitive interest. I want them to keep it fun and interesting because that's what will feed them
yup.. it ruined too many games for the average gamers
Giga take. Marvel Rivals is everything the gaming companies and some gamers THOUGHT were already saturated or hated. The Super Hero genre, Hero shooters, 20 usd skins, and the Live service model. This proved them wrong.
@Ultimate_Hater75 that's literally the same take all the rivals fan boys have taken
We're at a point where companies are actually going out of their way to make their games worse. Marvel Rivals simply did what they all should have been doing all along, make a good game that is fun to play, don't make it predatory, and make it look great. Common sense things. They made it that easy for Marvel Rivals to succeed.
Hit the nail on the head.
Keep up the good work
subbed keep up the rivals videos, thank you.
Subbed. Looking forward to more marvel rival's content
Another common Eastern gaming company W.
Who cares if it is made by a Western or Eastern studio
I wished Digital Extremes did not cancel The Amazing Eternals due to OW success. I wished Gundam Evolution, Battleborn, Evolve and Super Monday Night Combat stayed
@ZeroOne130 look at mechastorm. It doesn't have a billion dollar liscense behind it so it probably won't do as well as rivals but the beta was great
gundam evolution deserved to end
that game was unbelievably short & the character locking not letting multiple similar characters suck
+
the pay to win was ridiculous for such a short game, literally 2 minute games
Brilliant vid once again
Why does the Gaming Industry suck so much nowadays?
Because of endless excuses. Excuses why the games get worse but cost more.
i am going to start of by saying i am making a game for around 11 months ish and i do agree with most of your point but i am not going to say that i know more than you because i don't but something you never talked about was inde dev/studies. for triple AAA saturation isn't an issues because they can make the best game and have the time and money to do so but for inde you can't make the beast game because of time an money and that where saturation become and issues as how want to play a worse game and that where you struggle as you have to hope enough player like your game/ideas to make it viable. most people want the beast but as an inde you can't do that so saturation is an issues and i am scarred that my games going to fail because of that. sorry for ranting a bit but i hope you can take this in to considerations and as well the videos was good and i do agree with most of your points.
An indie dev's first few games usually fail, bud. There truly aren't that many success stories compared to the saturation. Even if yours fails, dont ever give up and either try again or expand on what you got. Rome wasn't built in a day nor was it built without failures.
yeah I do know that much and I don’t every plan on quitting but thanks and I do understand that much but I guess it a mix of naive think and hope it just mainly the idea within it I don’t want to died.
Haven't enjoyed a hero shooter as much since overwatch 1. Still not enjoying it as much as I did overwatch 1, probably because it was my first and that impression can't be overwritten, but it's been so long and with how disappointed I was with overwatch 2, I thought there wouldn't be another company that even bothered to try making another one.
The #1 reason i like marvel rivals is theyre not ran by blizzard. Thats massive. I avoid blizzards disgusting ways at all costs.
Everyone was thinking that this game will flop hard but where they're now actually it's not their fault it's all those woke piece shits western devs fault
Great content
the game just needs to fix bugs & show some love to the characters that need it (respect some of the comic’s lore)
like Omega level mutants somehow being weaker than a normal dude with arrows.. lol
Marvel rivals is super competitive though. Its F2P with the strongest IP on the planet. It's not better than TF2, it just came after.
If Blizzard made Marvel Rivals, Spiderman would've been Bi, Captain America be not American, the female cast be ugly and fat, and the Hulk be the MCU hulk.
Uhm blizzard didn't make Concord buddy
The fact your forgetting overwatch the number 1 game when it came out and had all those things
I don’t really care cause : a color for 1 armor for 10buck ??
I have better investement to do.
had fun with the game. but there is bots and cheaters using aimbot everywhere
That's the problem with all multiplayer games. Let's hope NetEase does something about it soon enough.
You get a bot lobby if you lose 2 games in a row. And cheaters are only a issue in high elo, and from reading your comment i dont think you are.
@@jeanpierrepolnareff9919there is cheaters in quick match too. I have run into 1 Ironman who was using aimbot, a hella doing the same, another Ironman who never took damage no matter how much you hit him. They had no healers, he didn’t touch any of the health items. He was getting shot at. I got hit markers but his health never went down
Also I love how so sure of yourself you are. You throw in the subtle “your bad” lines just to make yourself feel good or you just a miserable person who loves to assume? Go on don’t be shy which one is it😃
I only run into sketchy stuff when I don’t turn crossplay off. Thankfully console players tend to be more honest and don’t cheat except for the 1% noobs
Bot lobbies, apparently, are supposed to happen if you go on a losing streak.
As a console player, turning off crossplay is an option for me in quick matches….if it feels like some cheating is going on. Third party tools usually aren’t a thing on console.
It's Companies Pandering to the 1% of people who dont even play the game.
Nothing to do with that either lmao, it's mostly a what You bring to the table
@@RockHoward256 50/50, but just in a small % of games
And yet Baldurs Gate 3 does well, so its not even that.
@@whatiswhat8061Baldur’s gate doesn’t pander tho? It just gives you a true to form d&d experience. Which typically lets you do whatever you want, regardless how bad or weird the idea
@Nzzertral im just being cheeky mate
This is the most obsessed I have been with a video game (Not named Resident Evil for Final Fantasy VII) in the last decade.
I'm sticking around until they give me a reason not to.
Immortals of aveum is a design mess with ugly characters
I mean it also helps it free, in a genre where most hero shooters are. But then again I never left TF2, so seeing you children fight is amusing to me.
The reason Rivals succeeds is because of lack of competition. In many aspects Rivals lacks a lot of polish that Overwatch has but it doesn't matter since Overwatch is fumbling a lot if other things and there are no other hero shooters on the market.
The problem isn't competition. It's licensing. Can't wait for the Warner bros hero shooter with DC characters and Harry potter skins. I wonder when rivals will get Disney skins. Can't wait for Donald duck wolverine
It’s not gonna get Disney skins. That’s Fortnite. Plus if they was to do that and Warner followed suit it wouldn’t be “dc hero’s with Harry Potter skins” that wouldn’t be for awhile. But I absolutely do see a “dc super hero’s with looney toons skins”
@Nzzertral I think you underestimate corporate greed. Why do you think they hired a Chinese company in the first place? It's the same reason every other American company outsources labor. The game is an uninspired cash grab to keep players playing despite its mediocrity. Which is the other reason they hired net ease. They make phone games. Phone games are built around keeping players' attention and milking them with micro transactions. I'll give you 2 examples.
1. Wolverines default skin. Wolverine is one of the most beloved characters of all time without his xmen uniform. Why aren't all the other characters wearing plain clothes? Because they know that people will drop some cash for Wolverine to look like Wolverine. Not even mentioning his lazy kit. If you've played any mvc games, you can see Wolverine done right, and he can't even climb. I don't know how many times I've seen Wolverine use his claws to climb. Magneto could also be used in this example.
2. Bots in lobbies to make keep unskilled people playing and give them a sense that they are better than what they truly are. By their own words, this is what they're doing. Not only does it give people who are unaware this is being done a false sense of skill. It will also cause the players to flame more skilled players in real lobbies because "it can't be my fault, I got 30 kills last game." Also, adding bots to lobbies creates false short ques. One of the things everyone bragged about when the game first released. But, if you knew 1 of 3 matches had bots in it, would you rather wait 2 minutes for a real game or have 5 second ques, but one of the games is bots. Now that people are aware of this, net ease stated that if you are in a bot lobby and quit, you will sustain the same disciplinary action as if you quit a game with actual humans. It's just a way to manipulate people into continued playing and is as lame as giving someone a trophy just for showing up.
It's a glorified phone game with a giant liscense. If it wasn't for marvel in the title, it might as well be concord rivals.
@ read a good chunk of that and you’re just further proving a point I have made before that you guys do nothing but complain and regurgitate what other have said but with a lil twist by adding your own words. I agree the menu feels like a glorified phone game. The rest of the game not so much. The bots are no more an issue than any other game. Especially modern COD. Even then you only get bot lobbies if you was already doing bad. Not really a cash grab, especially compared to its competitors and its FREE. Go be mad, it beat overwatch womp womp. Either play the game or shut up about it. You overwatch 🍆🚲 have been making the same lame excuses for the past 3 weeks.
There hasn’t been a single Maeve game in existence that has done Disney skins
@ *fortnite has entered the chat*