When it comes in before. For example if they take s sample 14 days before the event and it comes back they cancel. Like AJ vs Miller and Benn results came before so they cancelled
Vada also caught andre berto for his rematch with Victor Ortiz and stopped that one in 2012 along with khan v Peterson 2 also in 2012 so they have caught and stopped events
I think it would also help if boxers have a strict list of supplements, as of the brands that are already tested and trusted that are allowed. If you go outside of what the commission put out as a safe list, then your drop dirty is just that, DIRTY! No question if your B sample comes back dirty ya caught bro!
Devin is not undefeated. If Devin is still undefeated Spence. Cotto, and plenty other fighters are undefeated. Haney got caught in that Jaw!!! That's why he did not fight the same.
I'm a fan of Zab but there have been numerous fighters that have been suspended prior to the fight for PED usage Big Baby Miller vs Anthony Joshua comes to mind.
He literally knocked out damn near all of his opponents except for like 4-5. Come on bro don't be delusional. Yall dudes gotta jus come to reality and accept that Devin jus got beat by a fighter with only a left hook.
I do agree that PED is bad for the sport and Ryan should be held accountable if he did but also let's take into account that PED doesn't give you the skill needed to win the fight...it may enhance your ability with power and endurance but it's never going to give you the skill and technique to win the fight...Ryan was the better boxer at the end of the day....he had a better boxing plan and he was able to outbox and outclass devin...I like both fighters but I have to be honest and give Ryan props. If anyone take steroids or supplements for muscle building and they just take it but doesn't workout, what is going to happen to their body? It will run right through your system and come out... They can only help if you workout with them but without discipline, determination and a hard stringent work-out routine, you will never build muscle..never!!!..Ryan did a great job and his skill and determination and wit in that fight had nothing to do with PED...PED's don't teach how to fight.
He's not the better fighter he took performance enhancing drugs he's not even a man for that..... I can tell you've never competed in anything in your life let alone boxing because if you did you would know there's a huge difference in taking steroids can definitely be the determining factor in Victory whether it be football basketball boxing or the UFC these are all physical Sports and Combat Sports are the most physical and all these certain type of steroids do is give you physical advantages
Devin Haney went all 12 rounds with someone who came in overweight by 3.5 lb and someone who took steroids Ryan Garcia did all this cheating and still couldn't knock out the person with supposedly the weakest chin in boxing
And where did Devin get out boxed ? Lol I’m not even a Devin fan but yall just be watching anything I scored it a draw tbh Ryan Lost most of the runs other then the knockdowns. Ryan still sucks he getting all this credit for cheating sorry we keep it authentic my G once you cheat it don’t matter what you did in the ring once you enhance your performance to preform like that you suck as a man , human , and boxer. Like y’all need to get yall stuff together making the sport weak as hell
PEDs ENHANCE your preformance. The first punch changed the whole fight because he had enhanced power! Who the hell has Ryan jabbed in the past and rocked them.
Ryan came in over weight on purpose. He literally said that. Then had 2 diff PEDS in his system. Then blamed it on Ashwaganda smh. Make it make sense. Watch out for all the channels and race fans that make excuses for Ryan
@@nightryder16 the sarms that were in his system tells your muscle fibers to grow including quick twitch and it wasn't his speed and agility that won that fight it was definitely his power you can see from the first time Devin Haney got hit he was flabbergasted stop making excuses for a drug cheat
I still wouldn't be happy to have the L reversed haney took to much of a beating in that fight and had no answer for the left hook supposedly it was a dietary supplement to help ryan cut weight but either way devin got exposed so when he fights a puncher or a guy his size he's gonna be in trouble
Bro you sound crazy.. Devin was getting hit with the same punch all night. That’s Devin Haney Chin being in the way… that has nothing to do with steroids, but has everything to do with not being able evade it or lack of planning. Ryan wasn’t even in his best of shape and Ryan the breaks off Devin…😂😂
@my870 , the problem is the moral difficiency of people like you who are in love with a particular boxer but do not love boxing. I remember when Floyd beat Pacquiao, y'all accused him of cheating by injecting a saline solution in his veins to rehydrate, even though you knew that saline is not a drug, and he was given permission upfront to do so. Now that Ryan has used not one but two drugs for performance purposes. You blatantly ignore the cheating, and you blame Haney. Cheating is cheating. It's illegal for a reason. If you are the smartest guy in college but you are caught cheating on an exam, do you think that you should go free because it's believed that you would have passed the exam anyway? What kind of twisted logic are you guys operating on? Boxing needs to be saved from cheaters and those who support them.
It's not about guilty or innocent or the integrity of vada or boxing. it's about the money and the powers at be creating a neritive to have a rematch and recoupe or make more money that was lost and Ryan having to pay for throwing a wrench in the boxing powers at be big plans. So now Ryan is going to have to spend thousands, if not millions, to prove he's innocent!! It's called having to pay the piper to pipe your horn!!👍😎💯
The ref and judge was the ones cheating, it's hard to believe that they're not setting him up. Even if he did cheat, good for Devin for threatening his life and trying to cheat Ryan with the Ref and judge. Ya need to talk about that
@@LetsBeReal-tr7wtu realize they’re both on peds right? Devin works with victor conte and remi both charged for ped distribution and banned from the olympics lol
@@Rstars2o4 Nice try. Haney has never dropped dirty. Countless champions have worked with SNAC. Conte is the only person who has a fighter (Nonito Donaire) who gets tested 365/7/24 and Conte actually ask all of the fighters to test all year even when they have no fights. Conte is calling for VADA to do year round testing. I dont think Conte should be in boxing but its sad that he is the most vocal about making testing more stringent. Sidenote: Ryan was juiced to the max
Well when Garcia serves his suspension, the rematch wouldn't happen. Garcia didn't believe in his own ability to beat Haney, so he CHEATED. Missed weight on purpose, CHEATING, using Marijuana, CHEATING, using OSTERINE, CHESTING, using NANDROLIN, CHEATING.
You’re entitled to your opinion but you’re wrong if Devin was trash the odds would never have been how they were. Ryan off PEDs is exciting has power but is essentially a little more skilled than Deontay Wilder
@@percyjohnson211 🙄🙄🥴 yall REACH so bad it’s ridiculous. Killed him though? Haney lost cause he’s trash. Defense is garbage. He got hit with the left hand over and over. He couldn’t weight bully like he usually do. And you out here talking about some ped like it gave Ryan the power of Thor. Just running all the way to god with it😂
I do agree that PED is bad for the sport and Ryan should be held accountable if he did but also let's take into account that PED doesn't give you the skill needed to win the fight...it may enhance your ability with power and endurance but it's never going to give you the skill and technique to win the fight...Ryan was the better boxer at the end of the day....he had a better boxing plan and he was able to outbox and outclass devin...I like both fighters but I have to be honest and give Ryan props. If anyone take steroids or supplements for work out and they just take it but doesn't work out, what is going to happen to their body? It will run right through your system and come out... They can only help if you workout with them but without discipline, determination and a hard stringent work out routine, you will never build muscle....Ryan did a great job and his skill and determination and wit in that fight had nothing to do with PED...PED's don't teach how to fight.
Stop it Devon Haney was never untouchable ever anywhere in life. A very average fighter to begin with. It’s y’all that gas him up and act like he’s something special he’s not and PED do not turn you into Superman and we need to see the levels so y’all out here acting vindicated like Devon is going to get this loss back. That’s just not the case y’all sound dumb.
Bruh. PEDs (PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS) do make you superhuman. They emhance you beyond your authentic ability. What are you talking about. Levels do not matter with PED's. That's not like weed where low levels can show you are not an addict. The fact that any type of PED is in your system says a lot.
@@ivylow5515 and just because you’re hero lost and they have adverse findings doesn’t mean what you think it means. Educate yourself before you go on at peoples sideways and comment sections goofy.
No it doesn’t Devin isn’t accusing him of cheating the boxing administrators has confirm this. So to make this argument Devin get over an Loss of a deflection,he has nothing to do with anything.
If they take that L off his record Devin can’t fight nobody else over 25 and he can’t have a 15-20 pound advantage on fight night since 3lbs is a issue his soft ass
Where was all this when Deven came in 180lb in his last fight
Right. It only matters when it's the other way around.
These comments are crazy lol. So it’s ok for fighters to come into the ring on PEDs?
shut that soft shut up. boxers come in the ring like that all the time. haney was just not good enough to counteract it
Only if they not Black.
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As long as they are fighting against a non-white fighter.
They don't care. They have no morals that just want to see dev lose by any means necessary
@@magacop5180wtf 😂
The right amount of money can do anything. Create new identical bottles with new labels and forged signatures. This is not something new
How he saying vada stopping events if the test comes back after the event 🤔 they not stopping shit
When it comes in before. For example if they take s sample 14 days before the event and it comes back they cancel. Like AJ vs Miller and Benn results came before so they cancelled
Vada also caught andre berto for his rematch with Victor Ortiz and stopped that one in 2012 along with khan v Peterson 2 also in 2012 so they have caught and stopped events
Boxing needs a governing body like the MMA, boxers shouldn't decide who they fight or when they gonna take test. Boxing is flawed.
I think it would also help if boxers have a strict list of supplements, as of the brands that are already tested and trusted that are allowed. If you go outside of what the commission put out as a safe list, then your drop dirty is just that, DIRTY! No question if your B sample comes back dirty ya caught bro!
Ppl really taking up for cheaters says a lot. Smh. Salute to Zab the great! 🫡🫡
No one is taking about how Ryan wanted to fight in Las Vegas for a reason!
I wonder what Ryan was drinking that day with that bottle, cause only he knows
Yea Ryan cheated more than likely. But Devin was never the face of boxing dear that’s delusional. None of them are bigger than Tank. None
All way real IF THIS is true, RYAN no matter what eyes he brings to boxing NEEDS TO BE banished Broski . That’s not ok.
I don’t think anyone’s pointing out how Ryan was on a interview stating that he wishes boxers could be on ped’s before his fight with Haney 😏
Dont post a bs comment without sources
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@@therealdeal8277 ain’t bullshit but what ever ! Plus I don’t give a 💩 what you say
Do you have the link to the interview?
King Lying Ryan "Hot-Roids" Garcia😂😂😂
Devin is not undefeated. If Devin is still undefeated Spence. Cotto, and plenty other fighters are undefeated. Haney got caught in that Jaw!!! That's why he did not fight the same.
I'm a fan of Zab but there have been numerous fighters that have been suspended prior to the fight for PED usage Big Baby Miller vs Anthony Joshua comes to mind.
So now we stupid enough to believe PEDS won’t help you win at all… he ain’t beat no one in his career that way but yall continue to
He literally knocked out damn near all of his opponents except for like 4-5. Come on bro don't be delusional. Yall dudes gotta jus come to reality and accept that Devin jus got beat by a fighter with only a left hook.
@@nightryder16 by a steroid user u a bum for cosigning
@@nightryder16yep!!!!💯💯💯
You can't be that stupid lol 😅 you have to take a lot of that peds to make a difference
He knocked out his last fighter
I do agree that PED is bad for the sport and Ryan should be held accountable if he did but also let's take into account that PED doesn't give you the skill needed to win the fight...it may enhance your ability with power and endurance but it's never going to give you the skill and technique to win the fight...Ryan was the better boxer at the end of the day....he had a better boxing plan and he was able to outbox and outclass devin...I like both fighters but I have to be honest and give Ryan props.
If anyone take steroids or supplements for muscle building and they just take it but doesn't workout, what is going to happen to their body?
It will run right through your system and come out...
They can only help if you workout with them but without discipline, determination and a hard stringent work-out routine, you will never build muscle..never!!!..Ryan did a great job and his skill and determination and wit in that fight had nothing to do with PED...PED's don't teach how to fight.
He's not the better fighter he took performance enhancing drugs he's not even a man for that.....
I can tell you've never competed in anything in your life let alone boxing because if you did you would know there's a huge difference in taking steroids can definitely be the determining factor in Victory whether it be football basketball boxing or the UFC these are all physical Sports and Combat Sports are the most physical and all these certain type of steroids do is give you physical advantages
Devin Haney went all 12 rounds with someone who came in overweight by 3.5 lb and someone who took steroids Ryan Garcia did all this cheating and still couldn't knock out the person with supposedly the weakest chin in boxing
And where did Devin get out boxed ? Lol I’m not even a Devin fan but yall just be watching anything I scored it a draw tbh Ryan Lost most of the runs other then the knockdowns. Ryan still sucks he getting all this credit for cheating sorry we keep it authentic my G once you cheat it don’t matter what you did in the ring once you enhance your performance to preform like that you suck as a man , human , and boxer. Like y’all need to get yall stuff together making the sport weak as hell
He typed all that out just to be wrong
PEDs ENHANCE your preformance. The first punch changed the whole fight because he had enhanced power! Who the hell has Ryan jabbed in the past and rocked them.
Devin didnt look untouchable. Many thought he lost to the smaller man Lomochenko
I saw that fight and I feel Lima got robbed
Ryan came in over weight on purpose. He literally said that. Then had 2 diff PEDS in his system. Then blamed it on Ashwaganda smh. Make it make sense. Watch out for all the channels and race fans that make excuses for Ryan
Hannah took the money and went on with the fight so stoop it... He didn't have to keep the fight going
I honestly believe Ryan would have whooped Devin either way honestly
He obviously didn't believe that😂
@@micahlarkins9963 probably not but that whoopin was vicious
@@micahlarkins9963he did tho. Steroids don't improve agility nor speed.
@@nightryder16 the sarms that were in his system tells your muscle fibers to grow including quick twitch and it wasn't his speed and agility that won that fight it was definitely his power you can see from the first time Devin Haney got hit he was flabbergasted stop making excuses for a drug cheat
@@micahlarkins9963u can also say it was Devins lack of defense that lost him the fight
Devin Haney is over rated. He’s good but not great. Had to fight in Mexico to pad his early record.
Boxing definitely need some revisions 💯
I still wouldn't be happy to have the L reversed haney took to much of a beating in that fight and had no answer for the left hook supposedly it was a dietary supplement to help ryan cut weight but either way devin got exposed so when he fights a puncher or a guy his size he's gonna be in trouble
I hear you zab
Didn't AJ vs Baby Miller get pooped before the fight...that's when they brought in Andy Ruiz to take his place
Steroids wasn’t the problem Zab… the left hook was the problem
If steroids wasn't the issue Why did Ryan take two of them instead of vitamins?
Bro you sound crazy.. Devin was getting hit with the same punch all night. That’s Devin Haney Chin being in the way… that has nothing to do with steroids, but has everything to do with not being able evade it or lack of planning.
Ryan wasn’t even in his best of shape and Ryan the breaks off Devin…😂😂
@my870 , the problem is the moral difficiency of people like you who are in love with a particular boxer but do not love boxing.
I remember when Floyd beat Pacquiao, y'all accused him of cheating by injecting a saline solution in his veins to rehydrate, even though you knew that saline is not a drug, and he was given permission upfront to do so.
Now that Ryan has used not one but two drugs for performance purposes. You blatantly ignore the cheating, and you blame Haney. Cheating is cheating. It's illegal for a reason.
If you are the smartest guy in college but you are caught cheating on an exam, do you think that you should go free because it's believed that you would have passed the exam anyway? What kind of twisted logic are you guys operating on? Boxing needs to be saved from cheaters and those who support them.
Yh the left hook that was loaded with PEDs!!!!
Ok you said that boom got it. .now are your going to answer the original question? Why the dirty test ? 🙄
Zab mad 🤣🤣🤣 devin pack is hitting me lil zab 💀🤣
Now that's funny Devin got his ass whipped tegurad less and Haney cheated with payoffto reff what
It's not about guilty or innocent or the integrity of vada or boxing. it's about the money and the powers at be creating a neritive to have a rematch and recoupe or make more money that was lost and Ryan having to pay for throwing a wrench in the boxing powers at be big plans.
So now Ryan is going to have to spend thousands, if not millions, to prove he's innocent!!
It's called having to pay the piper to pipe your horn!!👍😎💯
What you saying when somebody's on the juice did turn into a Superman where was Devin Haney's skills he skills when did that night
You canit say that ryan cheater.
Great work fellas
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Hit the like button
Now u say that u kapping b
ZAB don’t get on there with the devil father…. it’s time to leave the sport.
Sambo sit down somewhere.
Stop Haney admit Ryan is way more better fighter than him,n he don’t want rematch😂😂😂
Ryan need to go.
You don’t have to have power money talk
Mill you ran with that conspiracy of Ryan test could be messed with and you gotta do your research before making wild statements
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Ryan cheated Devin is the face of boxing that’s why the hater will fill up this comment 🤦🏾♂️ haters
Heavy Haney glizzy glazing activity going on in these comments
I can go five rounds with Zab 🥊KO
Then hes LYING Breadman. Smh.
All you are jumping the gun cant wait toyall proven wrong
😂😂😂 THEY STILL SALTY. RYAN GAVE HIM THE FRIDAY SPECIAL. THE PART WHEN CHRIS TUCKER SAID.... YOU GOT KNOCKED THE F@#$ OUT 😂😂😂
Fake news. 😂
he cheated
Undefeated and got his ass kicked
The ref and judge was the ones cheating, it's hard to believe that they're not setting him up. Even if he did cheat, good for Devin for threatening his life and trying to cheat Ryan with the Ref and judge. Ya need to talk about that
Ryan bts out of Haney fair & square, Even if Haney gets his undefeated record back we all know Ryan took your O & you know it too Devin 😂😂.
If you have no morality
@@LetsBeReal-tr7wtu realize they’re both on peds right? Devin works with victor conte and remi both charged for ped distribution and banned from the olympics lol
@@Rstars2o4 Nice try. Haney has never dropped dirty. Countless champions have worked with SNAC. Conte is the only person who has a fighter (Nonito Donaire) who gets tested 365/7/24 and Conte actually ask all of the fighters to test all year even when they have no fights. Conte is calling for VADA to do year round testing.
I dont think Conte should be in boxing but its sad that he is the most vocal about making testing more stringent.
Sidenote: Ryan was juiced to the max
@@Rstars2o4goofy you stand for 💩
Delusional
This is bullshit!!! No one is telling dev that he was open all night for that left!!!!
Zab.. Haney ain’t that guy bro…
Ryan kicked his ass.
I want the rematch with Ryan and devin with a level playing field. Ryan will still kick his ass again devin lost his mojoe
Race fans
Well when Garcia serves his suspension, the rematch wouldn't happen. Garcia didn't believe in his own ability to beat Haney, so he CHEATED. Missed weight on purpose, CHEATING, using Marijuana, CHEATING, using OSTERINE, CHESTING, using NANDROLIN, CHEATING.
Man please! Devin is trash and in a few more fights after this Ryan stuff he will be back crying again cause he is gonna lose again
You’re entitled to your opinion but you’re wrong if Devin was trash the odds would never have been how they were. Ryan off PEDs is exciting has power but is essentially a little more skilled than Deontay Wilder
Ryan won and he won because he’s better than Haney. No one care what zab talking about
So him cheating don’t matter could of killed him in there
@@percyjohnson211 🙄🙄🥴 yall REACH so bad it’s ridiculous. Killed him though? Haney lost cause he’s trash. Defense is garbage. He got hit with the left hand over and over. He couldn’t weight bully like he usually do. And you out here talking about some ped like it gave Ryan the power of Thor. Just running all the way to god with it😂
I do agree that PED is bad for the sport and Ryan should be held accountable if he did but also let's take into account that PED doesn't give you the skill needed to win the fight...it may enhance your ability with power and endurance but it's never going to give you the skill and technique to win the fight...Ryan was the better boxer at the end of the day....he had a better boxing plan and he was able to outbox and outclass devin...I like both fighters but I have to be honest and give Ryan props.
If anyone take steroids or supplements for work out and they just take it but doesn't work out, what is going to happen to their body?
It will run right through your system and come out...
They can only help if you workout with them but without discipline, determination and a hard stringent work out routine, you will never build muscle....Ryan did a great job and his skill and determination and wit in that fight had nothing to do with PED...PED's don't teach how to fight.
@@kingkweku9761 also Ryan had the worst stamina. Dude took multiple rounds off
Untouchable what fights zab been watching wasn't Linares or Loma fights for sure shaky legs in both of those fights he is bias as heck
Devin beat both those BUMS.
Stop it Devon Haney was never untouchable ever anywhere in life. A very average fighter to begin with. It’s y’all that gas him up and act like he’s something special he’s not and PED do not turn you into Superman and we need to see the levels so y’all out here acting vindicated like Devon is going to get this loss back. That’s just not the case y’all sound dumb.
Bruh. PEDs (PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS) do make you superhuman. They emhance you beyond your authentic ability. What are you talking about. Levels do not matter with PED's. That's not like weed where low levels can show you are not an addict. The fact that any type of PED is in your system says a lot.
@@ivylow5515 the levels do matter
@@ivylow5515 and just because you’re hero lost and they have adverse findings doesn’t mean what you think it means. Educate yourself before you go on at peoples sideways and comment sections goofy.
@@ivylow5515 what are you talking about? You should probably delete your whole entire paragraph because you know zero of what you say.
So y take PEDS if he is so average. Y not make the weight u agree 2 if he so average. Ridiculous statement
This make Devin look hella weak Zay said this was the most excited news 😂 it ain’t true yet now if it come back negatively then what ?
No it doesn’t Devin isn’t accusing him of cheating the boxing administrators has confirm this. So to make this argument Devin get over an Loss of a deflection,he has nothing to do with anything.
Bruh. That B sample coming back hot. It is just giving ryan time to buold a defense and con the ppl like you.
U devin fans is the worse tho😂😂😂
If they take that L off his record Devin can’t fight nobody else over 25 and he can’t have a 15-20 pound advantage on fight night since 3lbs is a issue his soft ass