@@sennheiser Being an IE900 owner, looking for a headphone, the only thing which stopped me from buying sennheiser was the connectors. I would suggest to make headphones easily drivable and also to include 3.5mm cable as majority of users wants to use it via their laptops especially Macbook Pros as recently they support high fidelity headphones through their headphone port
@@joshuvaantonio The HD 620S does have a 3.5mm cable included, you just need to unscrew the 3.5 to 6.3 apater. You can drive it via a macbook, its even mentioned in the video 7:44, thats especially true for macbooks since they feature load detection and adaptive voltage output.
$200 is quite a significant price difference for someone who is looking for headphones below $550. The Focal costing 36% more is not just a 'little more expensive'.
@@shaunbrady15 It doesn't matter what you're plugging into your source so much as what you're plugging into the headphones themselves. Headphones that don't support balanced simply won't support it, no matter what you do.
I have the HD 620s and it's an incredible headphone! The 620s has a beautiful, rich and sweet sound, incredible passive noise isolation, and feel very sturdy and well made. I highly recommend them and I love them!
@@T_bomb99 Yes you can run them off a phone. DMS has a solitary 620S review where he states that they run just fine off of a dongle to 3.5mm adapter on a phone.. Sound wise, the momentum are a more fun tuning, that's their whole point. U/V shaped tune vs a bass/mids forwards neutral on the 620
Ordered mine after watching so many reviews videos which only added to the confusion, it seems headphones are very subjective equipments what may suite to other may not be ur taste. So decided to get them & try myself. Generally senhizer have a bright sound which is a nice feature
I'll keep my fingers crossed that you're able to review the latest Edifier STAX SPIRIT 55. How do these two designs handle PEQ to hopefully even out some of the peaks and troughs?
These HD620S would work well with a DX180 player? Also, lately i wear glasses like you, i am not young anymore, naah at my 55, so do you think this will affect the position on my head and also the sound listening?
I find it surprising that the options for a good closed-back are so limited. When I'm not worried about bothering neighbors or the neighbors are not bothering me I will fire up speakers. I think closed-back would be the default for headphone listening, but every brand has like one closed back to choose from. Whenever I use them I want to isolate sounds.
I have both now. They share similar tuning: Harman. But the Azurys, not surprisingly looking at the cost, are miles better in detail retrieval, instrument separation, clarity and soundstage (which is still not that wide though). So the Azurys would be the natural upgrade if you like the tuning
More cowbells! I already said more closed backs, but this segment really needs more products and reviews, so a summary overview of closed backs would be much appreciated.
I want to see HD620s vs HD600 with the 3D printed closed back you featured a couple of years back. Should you buy 620 or should you go through the trouble of modifying 600? Also, compare Azurys with other closed-back Focals, including Bathys in wired mode.
Definitely better, I have both 620s and Maxwell. Bluetooth just can't quite keep up yet sound quality-wise. Maxwell does have some pretty compelling features though!
Nice video and review. Does anyone have thoughts on how these two compare to two comparably priced models available on Drop, the Dan Clark Aeon X Closed and the E-Mu Teak? The latter two I like quite a bit. Cheers
@@kobbyampofofor me was boring!No dynamic punch!If you want adding some bass the driver start distorting!! Its comfy,premium built,nice soundstage!But its not the headphone fir music enjoyment!
@@kobbyampofo I think you cant go wrong with them mixing!Or maybe you will love for just listening music! I hope you can try them,sound its nit for me but the built and comfort and the looks that headphone its amazing!
@@smutlivre4979 i haven’t heard them so dont know. But as per video, he didn’t made any good points over why we should pay extra for Azurys. I would expect at least detail/resolution would be better for that price difference.
You did not watch the video... They DO NOT SOUND the same. In fact I'd take the "unnaturalness" of the Focal over the hot mess under 1000Hz that is the Sennheiser. Cos under 1000Hz is almost all the critical fundamental frequencies for music
@@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah I didn’t say they sounded the same. He said they sounded just as good. He said he couldn’t decide which one was better. He thought the 620S sounded more “natural!”
I'd skip either of these and either save up more for an AH-D5200 or get a much better price-to-performance with K371. HD620S and Azurys are just awkwardly placed in the middle.
I would never believe someone who said this to me a year ago, but I feel like Audeze’s $300 Maxwell solidly beats all these offerings. I own the Stellia even and I go to the Maxwell way more than the Stellia.
@@tragikomediant4278 My homie, that kind of comment is exactly what the ‘I would never believe someone’ preface was for. I’m telling you as someone who owns these headphones or has owned them, Focal’s lower end closed backs are not much more comfortable than the Maxwell and severely fall behind in everything else. I can see the Sennheiser consideration (though that’s also probably going to give you a headache after a while), but I promise you Focal’s closed backs really suck compared to their peers.
@@sephondranzer I managed to get HD620s for a good price, and have been using them for couple hours already. So far I am more than happy with them! Comfort is great (no jaw-breaking as I was bit afraid), earpads are isolating and nice - but I haven't tested them in warmer environment yet. Soundwise these are the best closed-back out of the box I have ever had (DT770, 99 Neo, K371, EAH-A800).
GM ☕️. Done chasing Sen’s headphones..they refuse to do anything more to fill the gap between 800’ s and Orpheus. I live my OG 650…but the this seems to have the 600’s name ..but it ain’t. Have a great day Douglas ☕️
Great video. Thanks a lot. too much to ask for some: under $100, $100-200, $200-500 closeback headphones list? kids are little and have to listen at nigth in school days...but i refuse to not listen at all...😂
I have the Elegia as my best closed back, and EQ it with Qudelix 5k and Resolve's profile from an old video (which I can't seem to find - suspect it might have been taken down). No complaints from me, the EQ fixes the boxiness and results in great tonal balance, combined with punch and detail. It's still a strong entry and good value these days, so long as you can EQ (but definitely would not recommend without).
@mattrismatt I've heard conflicting info about this. While I think it's generally agreed leather pads (eg. Dekoni) help the bass, Resolve has talked about how they're no good for the Elegia's treble, which is otherwise very good. Do you have experience with them?
@@mattrismattthat's exactly why I would get the Azurys over elegías, 620s and such, leather is a deal breaker, I hate it. Same reason I prefer dt770 over k371. Plus the better soundstage of course. I hope Azurys delivers on performance
Sennys are ugly and no surprise bass is weak. Focal's design language is as old as the hills, but I actually like the looks, even in blue, much as I loved the fragile Elear many moons ago.
before i watcing through this review!i have message to sennheiser from here too!How the fuck can you made this headphone with this old style which is so outdated an unstylish,ugly and specially nowadays ,and for this cost!!!???Come on!!!!You can do better,its 2024!I know its somehow balanced,but seriously!Atleast gave me the option the balanced cable for this price! And i start hearing about the guy who take care about the sound this headphone.......Iam not a commercial guy...I love you sennheiser,maybe i love the 2 neumann headphones more!But this deal is more than RIDICULOUS!
Many HP's with supposedly "adequate" headband padding ends up being insufficient for those (many) of us with a ridge at the top of the skull. Only Sennheiser seem to acknowledge this in their headband design with the gap up top. An easy way to avoid a pressure spot right there.
Yep, I can not wear anything that doesn't either have a notch or is soft enough. The Sundara's leather strap is a no go for me, I have to add my own padding to make it not hurt that ridge. The Philips Fidelio X2HR is an honourable mention, that thing has the best headband I have ever tried. It's even self adjusting.
Check out the Dekoni Nuggets. I put them on a HIFIMAN HE6se V2 which has basically the same headband style as the Focals and it pretty much remedied the annoying Pressure/hot spot
There are ways to get around that. $50 for a ZMF Crescent Strap, granted that's more money on top of the $500 plus, and aesthetically will not be everyone's cup of tea but I've seen hi-fi enthusiasts pay more for less.
Had my Azurys close to a month now, Using them with a FIIO BTR15 and they’re top notch to my ears, Wouldn’t mind a comparison to the Celestee as i’m still eyeing those up
I went and tested the 620s the other day at my local HiFi store. I'd been looking forward to them since they I heard about them shortly after announcement. I was disappointed to say the very least. I tried on my source, I tried on their source, checked source quality, checked the headphones were plugged in properly. They sounded not good. I tried some extra clamping force by pushing them onto my head more, changed positioning of the headphones. I couldn't get them to sound good for me. There is so much missing.
I don't understand the hype about the HD 620S. The mids sound like they are locked in a far away box. The bass... Well, I didn't hear a significant difference with the open backs. And the clamping force is huge, making them fastly uncomfortable. Still searching a nice closed back headphones...
K371 was considered one of the best closed backs when it was launched. People just forget old stuff that is great and hype new things as the only ones.
@@felipeviegas K371 is one of the best closed backs in its price range. But if you like listening to music loud or listening to complex passages with many instruments, the sound can get a little crunchy and distorted, a common issue with budget headphones. The headphones in the video are (hopefully) next level, with better drivers.
AFAIK they have a very bad sound consistency between different heads/fits, moreso than an average closed back even. I guess that's due to small and shallow earcups, among other things. Treble is extension also seems suboptimal, though it should enough, and even may be better than having Mountains of Madness there which you can't EQ out without effectively killing all the treble anyway. That's what stopping me from giving them a try. Well, and the fact that they now cost almost twice as much as they should where I live.
All these headphone reviews never address distortion and loudness, I have some Sennheiser HD560S, they sound great except when I crank up the volume they distort way too easy, the same was true for a pair of Beyerdynamic headphone I tried. When you look at the specification of the drivers they might be sensitive but the max power is in the mW range. I have many expensive headphones but I always use my M50X's with non stock pads, they go loud, they don't distort, they have plenty of low end, they are the most fun and provide to most enjoyment for me. I wish I could find something with a similar characteristic to the M50X's with more refinement in the high frequencies, the closest is some Monolith M1060C headphones, the problem is they seem to give me sleep issues.
Bathys is my irreplaceable airplane companion because of its ANC, different use cases for me. I usually use a closed back wired headphone when I'm editing vids at home.
I did a whole bunch of measurements. I get the same results with an in-ear mic too. It really depends on your head shape but in this case I couldn't get a better bass-result.
High end flatheads beat both. IEMs are nice but not natural. I got Dunu Alpha 3 and sometimes I get scared because I feel someone's in the room. Even more real than open back headphones
Did you discuss with listener about the HD569 at all? I know he likes it from a discord comment he has posted.. but I don't know how much he likes it compared to 620s
@BKJ-88 for edm I guess, which doesn't require much technical quality beyond good bass. For anything else like classical and rock, even movies, it is very muffled. Plus extremely uncomfortable even with aftermarket pads.
ok, but how do they compare to the Susvara Unveiled ? seriously guys, Hifiman should have sent them to all reviewers, so we could have reviews the day they are announced. in the meantimg i'm not going to watch anything else
The Susvara Unveiled is an open-back, and it's ten times as much as both of these headphones combined (and knowing Hifiman, the build is probably worse).
@@Krankynator and ? did you stop reading my post after the first 10 words ? that was a joke that;s why the next word is "seriously" this is their first vidéo since the announcement of the Unveiled, and it should be about that, Hifiman screwed up their product launch
@@hartyewh1 yes you do !!, of course you do ! Bike manufacturers do it with 15000$ bikes, and that's far more complicated, many brands do this, that's how things are usualy done !, and you call that silly, amazing, are you just looking to disagree with someone ?
Agree with your HD620S impressions. Midrange sounds very wrong and the treble was sharp and dark at the same time. Much rather use my K371 with Dekoni suede pads for it's better tuning even though the HD620S is more detailed.
@@rene837 k371 was a big miss for me as well. Mine has 4db channel imbalance at 1000hz😅😅😅 I am actually ordered the drop aeon X closed on its way. Hope that one won’t disappoint me.
I would not get anything with (p)leather pads if not replaceable. K371 with Dekoni velour is very good (suede too bassy), but my current fav is dt770 pro 80ohm
@@artureff3046I have both 770 pro x and 80ohm this last I got it detachable cable moded, and I regret the pro x because I don't use it. The 80ohm is much much better especially the soundstage. It's another headphone sound altogether
What may be the best closed back for EQ? To hell with stock tuning, all I wish for is a lack of pronounced sharp resonances/cancellations (like that dip in HD620's upper mids) and an overall good linearity in upper midrange and treble.
Thanks for the comparison, we appreciate your feedback 🙏
@@Trainwreckstv3tv We see what you did there
@@sennheiser Being an IE900 owner, looking for a headphone, the only thing which stopped me from buying sennheiser was the connectors. I would suggest to make headphones easily drivable and also to include 3.5mm cable as majority of users wants to use it via their laptops especially Macbook Pros as recently they support high fidelity headphones through their headphone port
@@joshuvaantonio The HD 620S does have a 3.5mm cable included, you just need to unscrew the 3.5 to 6.3 apater. You can drive it via a macbook, its even mentioned in the video 7:44, thats especially true for macbooks since they feature load detection and adaptive voltage output.
$200 is quite a significant price difference for someone who is looking for headphones below $550. The Focal costing 36% more is not just a 'little more expensive'.
Get your money up
@@AnDr3w066 I have far more expensive headphones, just saying this theoretically.
@@Berkanann 200 isn’t a significant price when you are talking about luxury headphones
@@AnDr3w066 These are not luxury headphones and 36% is a significant difference regardless pricepoint.
@@Berkanann they are luxury and $200 is nothing in the luxury headphone market.
more closed back headphones please! thx for the review
Also worth noting that the 620S can be run balanced, but the Azurys can't: single-ended only.
True, but also worth noting the focal is also slightly easier to power according to 7:45
which is of no use since they're both not hard to drive... Balanced is gonna be useless for both
@@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah Its never useless to have a separate negative connector for each driver
Just curious why can’t it run balanced? He said it uses a standard 3.5 mm jack, why wouldn’t a 3.5 to 4.4 cable work?
@@shaunbrady15 It doesn't matter what you're plugging into your source so much as what you're plugging into the headphones themselves. Headphones that don't support balanced simply won't support it, no matter what you do.
I have the HD 620s and it's an incredible headphone! The 620s has a beautiful, rich and sweet sound, incredible passive noise isolation, and feel very sturdy and well made. I highly recommend them and I love them!
Can you run them off a smartphone or do you need something more powerful? Any idea how these would sound up against the sennheiser momentum?
@@T_bomb99 Yes you can run them off a phone. DMS has a solitary 620S review where he states that they run just fine off of a dongle to 3.5mm adapter on a phone.. Sound wise, the momentum are a more fun tuning, that's their whole point. U/V shaped tune vs a bass/mids forwards neutral on the 620
@r51234x it can run off a phone easily.
Ordered mine after watching so many reviews videos which only added to the confusion, it seems headphones are very subjective equipments what may suite to other may not be ur taste. So decided to get them & try myself. Generally senhizer have a bright sound which is a nice feature
Have you played singleplayer games with them? How are they in that?
Azurys vs Bathys vs Celestee vs Radiance is what interests me.
i third that
Radiance > Celestee > Azurys > Bathys... for sound quality.
@@ResolveReviews I found the Celestee very bad and boring without eq (no ear is the same, I know 🙏)
yesss we need a vid like this
Throw out the Celeste and I'm with you. Radiance is a very good HP. Haven't heard the first 2 HP's mentioned.
My man, I really needed this comparison! Thanks!
I'll keep my fingers crossed that you're able to review the latest Edifier STAX SPIRIT 55. How do these two designs handle PEQ to hopefully even out some of the peaks and troughs?
Thanks, very good comparison. Some of us however may be currently using either the Elegia or Bathys and were left wondering...
I was thinking exactly the same.
These HD620S would work well with a DX180 player? Also, lately i wear glasses like you, i am not young anymore, naah at my 55, so do you think this will affect the position on my head and also the sound listening?
I find it surprising that the options for a good closed-back are so limited. When I'm not worried about bothering neighbors or the neighbors are not bothering me I will fire up speakers. I think closed-back would be the default for headphone listening, but every brand has like one closed back to choose from. Whenever I use them I want to isolate sounds.
How do these (especially the Azurys) sound compared to the K371?
K361/371 sound incredible but lack in both build quality and comfort for me. I would love the sound of the AKG's in a better chassis.
@@DMS3TVI see. Wondering if it’s time I upgrade from my K371.
Do you prefer the K371 over these two? Especially in terms of resolution.
Oh, also. Do you prefer K361 or K371?
I have both now. They share similar tuning: Harman. But the Azurys, not surprisingly looking at the cost, are miles better in detail retrieval, instrument separation, clarity and soundstage (which is still not that wide though). So the Azurys would be the natural upgrade if you like the tuning
@@residentzerojust ordered the Azurys after a couple months of contemplation
XTC closed one solution I think since its customized for each user
More cowbells! I already said more closed backs, but this segment really needs more products and reviews, so a summary overview of closed backs would be much appreciated.
I want to see HD620s vs HD600 with the 3D printed closed back you featured a couple of years back. Should you buy 620 or should you go through the trouble of modifying 600?
Also, compare Azurys with other closed-back Focals, including Bathys in wired mode.
How do these compare to the Audeze Maxwells?
Definitely better, I have both 620s and Maxwell. Bluetooth just can't quite keep up yet sound quality-wise. Maxwell does have some pretty compelling features though!
@@Lost1ntheSauc3 have you tried with the usb input?
how do they stack up to the Dan Clark Audio Aeon Closed X??
Very curious about this
Any possibility of 490 Pro vs Hadenys as well?
I recently tried the 490 Pro. Not worth the $$$ I actually prefer the sound of the cheaper priced HD 560s over them. Especially for Gaming
Could be a fun comparison
The Hadenys washes that mid ass Senny
Nice video and review. Does anyone have thoughts on how these two compare to two comparably priced models available on Drop, the Dan Clark Aeon X Closed and the E-Mu Teak? The latter two I like quite a bit. Cheers
Hd 620s or Dan Clark Aeon closed X?
he said these are the closedbacks!Closed X was me a big disappointment,but they praised it years 😜
@@pappsa8 what didn’t you enjoy about the closed x?
@@kobbyampofofor me was boring!No dynamic punch!If you want adding some bass the driver start distorting!!
Its comfy,premium built,nice soundstage!But its not the headphone fir music enjoyment!
@@pappsa8 I’d be using these more for mixing I don’t mind flat but I do enjoy an inspiring sound
@@kobbyampofo I think you cant go wrong with them mixing!Or maybe you will love for just listening music!
I hope you can try them,sound its nit for me but the built and comfort and the looks that headphone its amazing!
Compared to Maxwell?
Azurys Vs elegía Which one is better?
color wise elegia
I prefer the sound of Azurys over elegia
The Elegia benefits greatly from solid leather earpads, especially improved bass and overall clarity.
If sound quality is similar, just go for Sennheiser and save a lot of cash.
They're not, bass is better on azurys
@@smutlivre4979 i haven’t heard them so dont know. But as per video, he didn’t made any good points over why we should pay extra for Azurys.
I would expect at least detail/resolution would be better for that price difference.
I can't with leather, deal breaker. Azurys it is (fabric)
$200 less and it sounds just as good? 620S for the win.
bro didnt watch the vid Lol
@@smutlivre4979 bro DID watch the video. 620S for the win.
You did not watch the video... They DO NOT SOUND the same.
In fact I'd take the "unnaturalness" of the Focal over the hot mess under 1000Hz that is the Sennheiser.
Cos under 1000Hz is almost all the critical fundamental frequencies for music
@@Mishael_Agyei-Boamah I didn’t say they sounded the same. He said they sounded just as good. He said he couldn’t decide which one was better.
He thought the 620S sounded more “natural!”
I'd skip either of these and either save up more for an AH-D5200 or get a much better price-to-performance with K371. HD620S and Azurys are just awkwardly placed in the middle.
how aeon closed x compare?
I'll stick with my modified Realistic Nova 40's. Total cost $85.00 and about an hour of my time.
vs ATH WP900 ?????
Bring back the old ending music, please ! 😉 (peace, I love what you're doing)
Thanks but I wish you would have left out the loud 'background' music.
Happy Gilmore l&g 😖
Senny win by customer support.
Come on DMS, a graph's commenting video, not tracks as an example or anything. I expected more, from such a review, especially on the subjective part.
I would never believe someone who said this to me a year ago, but I feel like Audeze’s $300 Maxwell solidly beats all these offerings. I own the Stellia even and I go to the Maxwell way more than the Stellia.
I agree, except they fall off my head when I look up or down.
My brother, Maxwells weights 590g, while HD620s only 326g. This is 40% less!
@@tragikomediant4278 Maxwell weights 490 g
@@tragikomediant4278
My homie, that kind of comment is exactly what the ‘I would never believe someone’ preface was for.
I’m telling you as someone who owns these headphones or has owned them, Focal’s lower end closed backs are not much more comfortable than the Maxwell and severely fall behind in everything else. I can see the Sennheiser consideration (though that’s also probably going to give you a headache after a while), but I promise you Focal’s closed backs really suck compared to their peers.
@@sephondranzer I managed to get HD620s for a good price, and have been using them for couple hours already. So far I am more than happy with them! Comfort is great (no jaw-breaking as I was bit afraid), earpads are isolating and nice - but I haven't tested them in warmer environment yet. Soundwise these are the best closed-back out of the box I have ever had (DT770, 99 Neo, K371, EAH-A800).
GM ☕️.
Done chasing Sen’s headphones..they refuse to do anything more to fill the gap between 800’ s and Orpheus.
I live my OG 650…but the this seems to have the 600’s name ..but it ain’t.
Have a great day Douglas ☕️
There's nothing within 500 bucks of the 650 that's as good -- it's just how good the 650 is (and I'm including the 600 and 6xx along with it)
In my headphone collection..it’s the 650 then it jumps to LCDX (21)
Great video. Thanks a lot.
too much to ask for some: under $100, $100-200, $200-500 closeback headphones list? kids are little and have to listen at nigth in school days...but i refuse to not listen at all...😂
Or just get the elegia for 400 and eq
Elegia has plenty of issues EQ can't fix though.
I have the Elegia as my best closed back, and EQ it with Qudelix 5k and Resolve's profile from an old video (which I can't seem to find - suspect it might have been taken down). No complaints from me, the EQ fixes the boxiness and results in great tonal balance, combined with punch and detail. It's still a strong entry and good value these days, so long as you can EQ (but definitely would not recommend without).
The Elegia benefits greatly from solid leather earpads, especially improved bass and overall clarity.
@mattrismatt I've heard conflicting info about this. While I think it's generally agreed leather pads (eg. Dekoni) help the bass, Resolve has talked about how they're no good for the Elegia's treble, which is otherwise very good. Do you have experience with them?
@@mattrismattthat's exactly why I would get the Azurys over elegías, 620s and such, leather is a deal breaker, I hate it. Same reason I prefer dt770 over k371. Plus the better soundstage of course. I hope Azurys delivers on performance
Thanks DMS! Focal Radiance blows them both away. It is worth spending a little extra to reach the next level.
Personally I can't stand the radiance, or really any of Focal's closed backs. I've tried them all except the Azurys.
@@Lead_Foot Based on your previous experience there is a pretty good chance you won’t like it. 🙂
Without EQ wouldn't touch it with a stick and with Bathys is better value imo.
I just like the Sennheiser house sound. I love the 6XX and the 600, I like the momentum three and four, so I’m very interested in the 620s
@@imabeliever85 I wished it sounded as good as the 6XX/600, but it doesn't.
Sennys are ugly and no surprise bass is weak. Focal's design language is as old as the hills, but I actually like the looks, even in blue, much as I loved the fragile Elear many moons ago.
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HD 620s suck. I lose all the bass if I move my chin by a cm.
before i watcing through this review!i have message to sennheiser from here too!How the fuck can you made this headphone with this old style which is so outdated an unstylish,ugly and specially nowadays ,and for this cost!!!???Come on!!!!You can do better,its 2024!I know its somehow balanced,but seriously!Atleast gave me the option the balanced cable for this price!
And i start hearing about the guy who take care about the sound this headphone.......Iam not a commercial guy...I love you sennheiser,maybe i love the 2 neumann headphones more!But this deal is more than RIDICULOUS!
One's a decent closed back, one's a Focal (lol).
Many HP's with supposedly "adequate" headband padding ends up being insufficient for those (many) of us with a ridge at the top of the skull. Only Sennheiser seem to acknowledge this in their headband design with the gap up top. An easy way to avoid a pressure spot right there.
Lizard people always complaining.
Just kidding😅
Yep, I can not wear anything that doesn't either have a notch or is soft enough. The Sundara's leather strap is a no go for me, I have to add my own padding to make it not hurt that ridge.
The Philips Fidelio X2HR is an honourable mention, that thing has the best headband I have ever tried. It's even self adjusting.
Check out the Dekoni Nuggets. I put them on a HIFIMAN HE6se V2 which has basically the same headband style as the Focals and it pretty much remedied the annoying Pressure/hot spot
ZMF does this with thicker padding toward the sides of the headband
Hate the build of Focal headphones. Non-replaceable headband is a no-go for that price.
There are ways to get around that. $50 for a ZMF Crescent Strap, granted that's more money on top of the $500 plus, and aesthetically will not be everyone's cup of tea but I've seen hi-fi enthusiasts pay more for less.
These aren’t on the same price point are they?
Had my Azurys close to a month now, Using them with a FIIO BTR15 and they’re top notch to my ears, Wouldn’t mind a comparison to the Celestee as i’m still eyeing those up
having listened to both for a few hours each, the azurys is worlds better than the celestee
Would be great to have a comparison video on the current state of closebacks in general
Wow, for those prices, I don't like either one.. I'll stick with the cheap AKG closed backs..
I prefer open backs for critical listening anyway
Should I just save up some money and go for some Dan Clark closed-back headphones?
Check out the Dan Clark Aeon X Closed on Drop, often available for $449
I went and tested the 620s the other day at my local HiFi store. I'd been looking forward to them since they I heard about them shortly after announcement.
I was disappointed to say the very least.
I tried on my source, I tried on their source, checked source quality, checked the headphones were plugged in properly.
They sounded not good. I tried some extra clamping force by pushing them onto my head more, changed positioning of the headphones. I couldn't get them to sound good for me. There is so much missing.
Love that Casio World Timer that you're wearing!
I don't understand the hype about the HD 620S. The mids sound like they are locked in a far away box. The bass... Well, I didn't hear a significant difference with the open backs. And the clamping force is huge, making them fastly uncomfortable. Still searching a nice closed back headphones...
Fiio FT1
Where is the AKG K371 on this comparison?
Yes, I wonder the same
K361/371 are more in the budget category, these two are a step up.
K371 was considered one of the best closed backs when it was launched. People just forget old stuff that is great and hype new things as the only ones.
@@felipeviegas K371 is one of the best closed backs in its price range. But if you like listening to music loud or listening to complex passages with many instruments, the sound can get a little crunchy and distorted, a common issue with budget headphones. The headphones in the video are (hopefully) next level, with better drivers.
AFAIK they have a very bad sound consistency between different heads/fits, moreso than an average closed back even. I guess that's due to small and shallow earcups, among other things. Treble is extension also seems suboptimal, though it should enough, and even may be better than having Mountains of Madness there which you can't EQ out without effectively killing all the treble anyway.
That's what stopping me from giving them a try. Well, and the fact that they now cost almost twice as much as they should where I live.
I love seeing the Denzel Curry album plaque in the background, great taste.
How does the the HD620s compare to the Meze 99 Classics?
Very nice and straightforward comparison (the overlaid measurements were in-line with key take-home messages) 👍🏼
All these headphone reviews never address distortion and loudness, I have some Sennheiser HD560S, they sound great except when I crank up the volume they distort way too easy, the same was true for a pair of Beyerdynamic headphone I tried. When you look at the specification of the drivers they might be sensitive but the max power is in the mW range. I have many expensive headphones but I always use my M50X's with non stock pads, they go loud, they don't distort, they have plenty of low end, they are the most fun and provide to most enjoyment for me. I wish I could find something with a similar characteristic to the M50X's with more refinement in the high frequencies, the closest is some Monolith M1060C headphones, the problem is they seem to give me sleep issues.
As a word of caution. If you're listening loud enough for the 560S to distort it's causing irreversible damage to your hearing.
Awesome review….sound wise should I do an upgrade from my AKG 361 or DT 177X Go ?
How does the HD620S respond to EQ?
Focal's linearity is absolutely amazing on these closed back headphones, definitely a win with just eq on the 3k region
Whats your favorite Mac Miller project? I know hes one of your favorite artist and saw swimming in the background. R.I.P Mac Miller
Want: Revist your favorites lists: mm500, Bathys, E3, etc... are they still on top in each category?.
New Azurys or used Celestee are better for the same price? :)
If you got the amp, Drop Aeon Closed X.
Sony mdr 27m2 for me it seems
Will you be giving up your Bathys for the Azurys? #askingforafriend
Bathys is my irreplaceable airplane companion because of its ANC, different use cases for me. I usually use a closed back wired headphone when I'm editing vids at home.
i have been realy waiting for this review am trying to think of buying boose comfort ultra or the azurys whats ur opinion on that
get the azurys if you care more about sound quality, go for the bose if you want convenience and features. :)
Measurement of the 620S looks off in the bass, almost like an improper seal on the coupler.
They're more likely to have an even worse deal on most people
I did a whole bunch of measurements. I get the same results with an in-ear mic too. It really depends on your head shape but in this case I couldn't get a better bass-result.
They are trash headphones.
@@fnvfanMSPRwhy?
@@residentzero I can make the bass disappear by moving my chin by a cm
i think at this point iems do sound better than full sized closed headphones, at least under the $1000 range
High end flatheads beat both. IEMs are nice but not natural. I got Dunu Alpha 3 and sometimes I get scared because I feel someone's in the room. Even more real than open back headphones
@@residentzero can you suggest a specific model for me to check out? i am so curious as this is the first time i hear about flatheads
Don't even need to watch Sennheiser is god to dms 😂
Did you discuss with listener about the HD569 at all? I know he likes it from a discord comment he has posted.. but I don't know how much he likes it compared to 620s
Hd569 is terrible, horrible
HD569 are absolute dogshit and that comes from Sennheiser fanboy.
I had a 598 closed, at the time people said it was just like an HD 569. It was ok.
Is there an over ear headphone that sounds like the HD25?
I hope not!
@@residentzero why? A lot of people love the sound of those. Perfect tuning for Metal and Electronic music.
@BKJ-88 for edm I guess, which doesn't require much technical quality beyond good bass. For anything else like classical and rock, even movies, it is very muffled. Plus extremely uncomfortable even with aftermarket pads.
@@residentzero going to have to agree to disagree with you on that.
ok, but how do they compare to the Susvara Unveiled ? seriously guys, Hifiman should have sent them to all reviewers, so we could have reviews the day they are announced. in the meantimg i'm not going to watch anything else
The Susvara Unveiled is an open-back, and it's ten times as much as both of these headphones combined (and knowing Hifiman, the build is probably worse).
@@Krankynator and ? did you stop reading my post after the first 10 words ? that was a joke that;s why the next word is "seriously" this is their first vidéo since the announcement of the Unveiled, and it should be about that, Hifiman screwed up their product launch
You don't send $200k worth of headphones to reviewers for marketing. Silly idea.
@@hartyewh1 yes you do !!, of course you do ! Bike manufacturers do it with 15000$ bikes, and that's far more complicated, many brands do this, that's how things are usualy done !, and you call that silly, amazing, are you just looking to disagree with someone ?
@@hartyewh1 im not talking about giving them away anyway !, the get them back, and sell them "open box" at the same price the real sales are made
I bought them and was not happy with either one actually. The 620s has a very wired midrange tonality and the azyrus sounded a bit blunted for me.
Agree with your HD620S impressions. Midrange sounds very wrong and the treble was sharp and dark at the same time. Much rather use my K371 with Dekoni suede pads for it's better tuning even though the HD620S is more detailed.
@@rene837 k371 was a big miss for me as well. Mine has 4db channel imbalance at 1000hz😅😅😅 I am actually ordered the drop aeon X closed on its way. Hope that one won’t disappoint me.
I would not get anything with (p)leather pads if not replaceable. K371 with Dekoni velour is very good (suede too bassy), but my current fav is dt770 pro 80ohm
@@residentzero my current fav is dt770 pro X, all other are (semi)open backs (really like Fostex t-rp line, Sony MDR-MV1)
@@artureff3046I have both 770 pro x and 80ohm this last I got it detachable cable moded, and I regret the pro x because I don't use it. The 80ohm is much much better especially the soundstage. It's another headphone sound altogether
What may be the best closed back for EQ? To hell with stock tuning, all I wish for is a lack of pronounced sharp resonances/cancellations (like that dip in HD620's upper mids) and an overall good linearity in upper midrange and treble.
Both are trash - But what to expect from a trash-reviewer?!? 😂
And you know this how? Based on?
So why are you here, watching this "trash" reviewer...? 🤔🤨
I don't like em either but "trash" is a bit strong