USB-C E-Marker is a chip that is required in USB-C cables that support over 60W of charging power. Cables with less than 60W charging power usually don't have that chip because they don't need it, according to the standard.
You still have the protection film on your chargers because you don't want to scratch them, but the protection film doesn't make it look very nice either. It will also make the devices warmer and that is another reason you should not leave it on.
Hi, I confess... i have a problem (OCD 😁)! I'm one of those guys that want to the equipments always protected... I don't know if there is a support groups for guys like me... "hey guys, I'm Hugo and I'm a procrastinator of removing devices protection! today was a good day, I finally took the screen protection of the oscilloscope I bought 3 years ago..." 😁 Thanks for watching!
@@DoctorCalabria I have seen that in several homes in USA (been in a lot of homes there). They (or ancestors) certainly were not from the Mediterranean.
I have this tester but I see that devices cannot trigger PD charging through the tester, only QC is possible. I have 100W PD charger, I have USBC cables capable of 100W. My laptop can charge through USBC 100W and it works, but only without the tester. The only use is to see if the charger supports PD charging. I wanted to see the power draw during charging but it is not possible.
Hello! Sorry for late reply, house move and vacations. I've noticed also some of these issues, not preciselly that one, but with the protocols. Please report it on the FNIRSI whatsapp channel to see if they can send and firmware update to correct that. Thanks for watching and for sharing!
I think you are wrong, there is a PD listener function, see an example here with a charging laptop ua-cam.com/video/CbKCVezzpYA/v-deo.htmlsi=FawXOlh6OWWU4MFh&t=187
Hi! Yes, I do. If every thing goes according the expected, I'll be reviewing the ChargerLAB Power-Z KM003C soon ( geni.us/power-z-km003c ) it has a male USB Type-C . Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this and your other videos! I'm newer to these testers and your videos have helped. I've been testing the FNB58 against the FNB48S and it seems the FNB48S seems to provides more data up front without having to jump into secondary screens. The navigation takes a moment, but the features are more quickly accessible (less menu navigation). Yes the interface on the FNB58 is nicer, but you compromise refresh speed. The FNB48S polls (or at least updates) data so much faster. The FNB48 main screen provides min/max V/A/W and load resistance which the FNB58 doesn't seem to provide at all? I know this is an old video, but a FNB48P vs FNB58 would be an awesome comparison. I would love to see what you consider the pro/con of each unit. Thanks!
Hi, this idea was also added to my todo list. I have a very big queue of devices to review, have it covered until end of march at least, but will try to fit that one as soon it is possible. Thanks for watching.
Hello! Sorry for late reply, house move and vacations. Yes, it depends on the protocol you're working with.... I couldn't figure out exactly why! Thanks for watching.
Just got mine, it's very good and surprisingly intuitive to use. It can even detect cable adaptor resistance. I may put some JB weld around the male USB for additional mechanical reinforcement. Thanks.
I finally got mine. One thing I noticed is that it does detect Apple 2.4A profile on the 12W Apple charger (and some others) (2.7V on D+ and 2.7V on D-) but it doesn't detect Apple 2.1A profile on 10W Apple charger (2.7V on D+ and 2V on D-). That's really unfortunate. The old Ruideng UM25(C) USB tester nicely detects Apple 2.1A profile on a charger.
Hi, weird! It is a big fail in that case, but for example PD3.1 was added recently by firmware update, maybe they will update in the future for those models.... thanks for watching!
Hi, sorry for the late reply. That is a very good question, I supose it can, you can test several devices consuption with it, but I imagine that the performance might be degraded. Never tested, but will try soon. Thanks for watching.
@@TechCornerTV yeah, it works. I bought one to debug a problem with an NVMe external case. You’re right about the degraded performance, as it only supports USB 2.0.
Got mine today and is great for testing. There is one thing I have noticed while using it. If I connect the usb tester to a mains powered charger either by usb a or c it will work perfectly, but if I connect the tester to a powerbank using the same outputs, usb c will only work if you have a device connected to the output. I have tried different cables and the powerbank outputs more than enough power. Does anyone know why the usb tester does this?
Hi, if you want to check the stats on your mobile phone, you need the bluetooth version. If you don't need that, you can order the black one. Thats the only difference, all the rest is equal and I believe that use the same firmware, but the bluetooth version has the hardware for it. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the first review of the product for the western world. I am interested in the data logging capabilities of the device. Which parameters does it log ? Voltage and current only ? Can the log file be exported in CSV format ? What is the maximum frequency of logging in offline mode ? Is it possible to log directly onto the phone when connected via Bluetooth in online mode ? Thanks
Hi Yıldıray, So you can log the VBUS (voltage), IBUS (amperage), D+, D-, PBUS (wattage), CAP and NRG. I wasn't able to save the data in the mobile app, only in the PC. On mobile it seems to work only in live mode. It saves to a CFN extension that my computer identified as a CFW file. Is binary, Maybe there is some utility to convert to CSV. The maximum time division is 5s and the minimum is 0.1/div. Hope that this help you. Thanks for watching! 👍
You can convert CNF to CSV using a basic script, it is avaliable on Github. Just follow the instructions. Link for the script: github.com/didim99/usbmeter-utils/tree/master
Can anyone tell me where I can read on the FNIRSI FNB58 whether a device supports PPS? The device should actually be able to read this, but I can not find it.
Hi, I do believe that the power supply also has influence in that behaviour, but shouldn't be the all story, anyway, since this video you have one or two firmware updates, might help. Thanks for watching!
Hi, not tested the Avhzy yet, but guess what! I received a unit for testing and it will be one of my next videos, it will be release in the following weeks. You can see my feedback when it comes out. Thanks for watching.
I finnaly found it. But this is why this Chinese products is less worth: The Software is not supperior and the Support is nearly non existent! Shame when the hardware seems to be interesting
Can I use an usb c adaptor on the front ush? Maybe a stupid question but I want to stick it into devices instead of using cables because my cables are bad.
Great. Can this device trigger the board of the charger ( adapter) telling if the charger is authentic ( original) or fake? I mean , doing so by telling the brand name of the charger on the screen of the usb tester.
How accurate is fnirsi fnb58 Because when I checked… the original charger from apple, samsung. The wattage results did not match. Please help me understand this issue.
Hello, in my case seemed to be pretty reliable, but different power supplies can behave differently. Only seeing what happened can have a better idea. But at least until now, I don't have reasons to suspect they're are unreliable. Thanks for watching.
I would be very interested to know if this device somehow can also be used to detect which wires are present for data transfer. Because some are for power transfer only and by looking at the connector it cannot be determined if the wires for data transfer are present. For example, some cables that have been advertised as an USB3 ready cable and has also the proper USB3 connectors on each end are (intentionally or not) only provided with only D- and D+ wires, which in turn makes them USB2 cables.
would be great if you could do a side by side comparison of the FNB58 to the Power-Z KM003 PD 3.1 tester and also compare both of their PC software since they look very different. The KM003C is the newest version of the tester (old was KM002c). KM003C range has been increased to 50V 6A for example which is future proof. since the PD3.1 standard goes all the way up to 48Volt 5Amps, 240W. It would be good to know if the FNB58 is also spec'd to 50V 6Amp, or at the minimum at least be able to handle current 140W-28V chargers. I was reading the FNB58 spec list and it appears to be only 4V-28V, and maximum of 120W. This is concerning if these are specs since the lowest PD3.1 charger is already at 28V, 140W, how will it safely test them? this is why a side by side comparison would be good includng if they are both rated to test current 140W/28V PD 3.1 charger. The KM003C I can only find on AliE x press for $80 right now, it will probably be on Ama zon soon , KM003C also has a slightly bigger screen than the older KM002C.
Hi, the trigger is when you force the device a specific protocol, like QC or PD. It is safe to use with a mobile phone, I used with mine with no problem. Thanks for watching.
@@TechCornerTVTerima kasih untuk Jawabannya, Tapi saya jadi bingung, karena saya bertanya di reviewer lain tidak menyarankan untuk ponsel karena akan merusak ponsel tersebut. Jadi mana yang benar? Atau ada batas volt yg aman ?
I just bought this tester and wanted to test a "26800mah" power bank I bought from Amazon. I don't quite understand how to read the results that's right in front of me. Lol. Is it a 9900mAh or 19600mAH capacity? Screen says the following: Battery CAP Calculation Group: 01 Time: 0 days 14:36:41 CAP: 9.92364 Ah NRG: 80.5495 Wh BAT Vol: 3.7V Conv Eff: 90% Results: 19.5931 Ah Thanks!
Hi, the way I see it, and notice that I might be wrong, your 26800mAh has a teorical 26800mAh capacity, but in real life, you get 19600KmAh. Thanks for watching.
@@TechCornerTV thank you. I have a couple of power banks I'd like to test for its capacity. I see on your video that there are 10 possible info screens. Been searching how to configure the FNB58 to use a difference screen to record battery capacity for each of my power banks. Do you by chance know how to do it? I found the lack of documentation the only downside of this otherwise great tester. Lol.
@JagMan903 Whats wrong with just making notes of the results after each test? Why do you need the device to do what you can do with pen and paper (or saving in a text file, whatever?)
Is it really worth paying extra for the bluethoot version? It is much harder to find and more expensive and seems more like a gadget to me. Can it connect to the computer with the software or is it only via a cell phone and the android app?
I need to capture the max V, A and W for a specific device over a period of time. The description makes it sound like it can do that but I cannot figure it out. Has anyone else been able to do that?
@@TechCornerTV In what section? I've gone through every screen and do not see where the max values are captured. I did find out they have a different model (cheaper) that shows it on the "Main" page with the current values.
Hi, I never tested the FNB48P, there will be released a new version of this device that I probably will test. I let you know then. But they're pretty similiar, specially the new FNB48 that will be released soon. Thanks for watching!
Hi Nick, it added the Xiaomi support in the last firmware, see this short video ua-cam.com/video/k5vDx_qWqO8/v-deo.html , I show there the readme file for the new firmware. Thanks for watching!
Hi, it should be on FNIRSI website, support section. If you can't find it there, use the QR code to enter the Whatsapp FNIRSI support group and ask there, they will provide it to you. Thanks for watching.
I bought one of these. it is indeed very powerful. The Problem is, the main information I need to know will never be shown.. Which Protocol is used by the load. Device shows N/A, Android App doesn´t show that information at all. Windows Software shows "PD MTK" "unknown" .. so.. what is used now?! It would be a massive powerful device if it would show these information.
Hi! Hmmm... you should join the FNIRSI whatsapp chat and suggest that to them, they're very responsive and I know that there will be out in the market a new model very soon, so they're always working on this devices, maybe they can add this to a firmware update. Thanks for watching!
@@TechCornerTVIs this new model FNB48P? If so, it looks like old FNB48 only in a new case. I'm waiting for something with voltage range up to 50V and full PD3.1 support. Recently I found tester Power-Z KM003C. It looks very good, but has only USB-C connectors.
This device seems great at first but its so buggy and unstable. Im using latest FW 0.68 and it is still a bad product. It freezes a lot, It restarts a lot. It doesnt recognize many cables and chargers. Im using 100W PD charger, 100W and 250W USBC cables. When I try to charge my macbook, this setup can charge it at around 90W. When I connect it through this meter, it only maxes at 28W. Not satisifed with this at all :/
Hi, I don't have such a bad impression of it. It's true that it freezes sometimes, but other than that I don't have major complains. Thanks for sharing and watching.
I have that problem occasionally too. If you plug in the USB-C cable the other way around (turned 180 degrees), it works and it delivers 90 watts of power.
Hi David, I never tested the FNB48P, there will be released a new version of this device that I probably will test. I let you know then. But they're pretty similiar, specially the new FNB48 that will be released soon. Thanks for watching!
Hi Devon, I have one here to test, but arrive with the screen broken and I didn't had the time yet to fix it and review it. I hope to do it soon. Thanks for watching.
Hi, ask for the firmware on FNIRSI whatsapp group and reinstall the firmware, it probably should help, but anyway, they're pretty responsive, they will help for sure. Thanks for watching.
The tester has a male usb-a plug. I plugged it into my dell inspiron 3668 which has 2 usb 3.0 ports on front panel. device says they're 2.0. can anyone try this?
Hello, I have also been very happy with the Fnirsi FNB58 for over a year. Very good and informative video about the tester. Unfortunately, the app has not worked for about a month. My phone connects to the tester, but after confirming the start button, the app no longer provides any performance data. Since I bought the tester primarily to check the performance data of mobile (foldable) solar panels, this limitation is very annoying. Have you also been having problems with the app recently?
Hi, I have to be honest here, I use it mainly occasionally to test some USB devices in terms of power used. I don't use normally the app, installed for the review. But please make sure you have location "ON" on your mobile, without that the app doesn't work well. Go figure. Thanks for watching.
Hi, you know how i can test accurate battery capacity?(battery CAP Calculation) if i test with default settings battery voltage: 3.7v and conv. eff: 90% i have more mah than real, tested against klein tools battery tester. i need move these battery settings?
Hi, never had the opportunity to test the AVHzY CT-3, so I don't like to talk without testing the devices. But after your e-mail and since someone asked me the same before, I'll write to them to see if they're interested in sending one unit for review. Thanks for watching!
@@TechCornerTV That would be great, thanks! I also couldn't find anything about Fnirsi FNB48P, seems very similar to FNB58. I'll need to compare their specifications but for now literally no one made a single video about it. ;/
Thank you for your videos and huge effort. Below is not on you, but what i think is a huge fail of Fnirsi FNB58 to not include PD3.1 support. If you have any communication with FNirsi please ask them why they did not include PD3.1 28V support? (I'm shocked they forgot this). Could they possibly add firmware upgrade to fix lack of PD 3.1 support? I had to get the Power-Z labs KM002C because I'm testing the new PD3.1 chargers 140W/28V. Fnirsi FNB58 looks pretty, but no PD3.1 means I can't test any of a dozen new PD3.1 chargers like Anker 717, 737, Apple 140W, etc., or read any of the new 240W EPR PD3.1 cables. I would love an option that was not the Power-Z labs expensive $99 KM002C (soon to be KM003). but they are still only one that supports the newest Usb-c PD 3.1. I was hoping Fnirsi would offer a budget PD3.1 USB-C tester, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's just same old features.
@@TechCornerTV AWESOME. this is GOOD news. I can't wait to see this. $50 option means my friends don't need to spend $99.99 on the Km002C/Km003 to get PD 3.1 testing which is what all USB-C testers in 2022+ should have.
@@neo256mb I just flashed the update. I indeed does support PD 3.1 with EPR and AVS but I don't know about 240W. It SHOULD be able to read the e-markers as that's something that can be easily implemented in FW, bu I don't think It'll be able to actually monitor 48V/5A
@@FOREST10PL Could you let me know if the Fnirsi can do the following. the KM002C I have now can do 3 important things: (1) plug into any of the new chargers 140W/28V PD 3.1 and analize the PD28V chargers and also does PD 28V trigger. The highest EPR PD3.1 chargers in 2022 are only 28V- 140W. so it has to be able to monitor that or else it's not really supporting PD3.1. in a couple years from now we may have chargers up to 48V, but that is a long way off. The PD 3.1 Cables are a different story. USB-IF approved the highest 240W-48V-5Amp cable already and it's on the market which replaces all 100W cables since the 240W with emark covers everything below as well. This 240W PD 3.1 cable is intended to be used on the first wave 140W - 28V EPR PD 3.1 chargers (a 100W cable will only negotiate at weaker 20V/5amps on the new 140W/28V charger and not the full 28V like the 240W cables can). In other words, USB-IF simplified the new USB-C cable so the EPR PD3.1 cable is already at highest level even if the chargers and devices in 2022 are at first stage of EPR (28V/140w). The 240W-48V cable is needed to fully work for this first wave of 28V-140W chargers, and next wave in 1-2 years of 36V chargers, and then more years, the ultimate 48V-240W EPR PD 3.1 chargers (without a need to change the cable since we already can buy the highest EPR power cable, PD 3.1 240W, today). (2) there is a feature where I can plug one side into any low usb power, and other port into any PD3.1 Cable like a 240W/48V/5amp Cable, it will read the Emark, and tell me all the information, vendor name, if vendor labeled it as 240W or 100W, and a bunch of other E-mark fields relevant to testing if 240W cable is legit or has emark in it. The KM002C from power-Z labs can already do PD3.1 240W cables. PD3.1 cables are all 240W cables, they are the only official USB-IF PD3.1 EPR cable (the 100W cable is only PD3.0 and was deprecated back in Dec 2021. the PD60 cables do not have emark chip and are SPR (standard power range)). If the FNirsi can not handle PD 3.1 cables (240W/48V/5a) then I'm not sure it's fully supporting PD 3.1? the KM002C device can indeed handle 240W cables already since they are the official PD 3.1 cables. (3) connect to a PC by USB cable and have another cable going to a charger, to capture the trace between the PD 3.1 charger to PD 3.1 Cable to the EPR device or a 28V Decoy pcb device. Then show on PC all the negotiated messages between the charger and the device so we can analyze if there is a problem on the Charger side or the device side with PD negotiation (or confirm all messages are good based on what you see of the trace in the km002 PC software). I can then share/email this trace file to someone else who can open it with the same software if we are working together on some open source project. the software for the KM002 PC side is free to download. This part is important since I'm already able to do this level of PD 3.1 testing with the km002. some people I know can not afford $99 km002C, and would like to help with troubleshooting for open source projects. if the Fnisi can do this , then there is a $50 low cost alternative to start helping. if Firnisi can not do this, then it's only the KM002 that is PD 3.1 capable of capturing traces and showing PD 3.1 negotiated messages. Please let me know thanks. can not recommend the Fnirsi unless I know that it can do the above. much appreciated.
@@neo256mb Sorry, I don't have any PD 3.1 power supplies to confirm these things but the device itself is able to handle 28V. The rest of your questions have been answered in the video. There's a separate "PC" port (micro USB) that can be used to power the device separately and gather data, albeit their PC software is quite meh. On the protocol sniffing, yes. You can see the CRC messages between the charger and the device. You can read the e-marker also but it doesn't have the Vendor names built-in, you only get the Vendor ID and you'll have to use google to find it's name (which is not that bad TBH). So yeah, we should wait for the response from the channel, but I don't see why it wouldn't. Apart from supporting voltages higher than 28V, there's nothing in PD 3.1 they couldn't just add in FW. Fingers crossed as it's waaaaaay cheaper than KM002
I got one of these today. Found this video after testing it out. Accuracy is mostly marketing, but it's good enough to get a sense of what's going on. Really pleased with it as an entry point into this kind of hobby. I went and tested all my charging bricks and was quite surprised by the results! Keep in mind that you need a Windows PC to update the firmware, which should be done.
Hello! Sorry for late reply, house move and vacations. Regarding your comment. As always, you get what you pay for, I can't expect to have a very high precision device for this price, but even so, mine is fairly accurate. Agree with you that the firmware upgrade should be done, there is always to be fixed. Thanks for your input and for watching!
@@StevieRayLouJust install a fricking disposable VM for that... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I usually do that for using one time shady software. VM's snapshot feature is your friend.
Usb micro to PC is this days a no go for me, they could have done it easy with usb c port and appropriate cables included or to buy them extra that work 100% with all the protocols.
some minor fix suggestions on the GUI for FNIRSI in the upcoming firmware : 18:48 "SUMSUNGAFC" 21:20 Output numbering has no space with the label, could lead users to easily misread 5.00V as 15.00V, 9.00V as 29.00V, and so on. i hope FNIRSI read this comments section. 😉
For anyone else reading this comment, I just updated my FNB58 (Bluetooth version, though this detail shouldn't matter, really) to firmware V0.67, and it seems that FNIRSI has corrected both suggestions: 1. "SUMSUNGAFC" has been changed to "SAMSUNG AFC" (corrected Samsung and inserted space for visibility); 2. Output numbering now has a space to separate from the value, again for visibility. Example (Google 30W charger): 1 5.00V 3.00A 2 9.00V 3.00A 3 15.00V 2.00A 4 20.00V 1.50A 5 3.30-11.00V 3.00A 6 3.30-16.00V 2.00A 7 3.30-21.00V 1.50A I swear the single spaces are easier to read in person. Also they wouldn't have enough space for the last 3 lines in this case if double spacing was used, so yeah. Nice to know that they do listen to our feedback.
Hi, I have to confess that I didn't read the entire manual, but with the PD on, the in sockets would not work and this powers on using the USB-A in plug. I will try to find out more about it and update you or make a video about some extra usage experiences. Thanks for watching!
If you have other Fnirsi meters, like FNB48 or C-1, then this is ok, but in some ways it is worse. The LCD screen is way nicer, insanely high resolution, nice fonts, and viewed better. The LCD is only slightly larger, but it so much sharper with better contrast and viewing angles. Case is better, current handling is better, and menus are easier to navigate. At the same time, the main screen update rate is slower than on FNB48, even when refresh rate is set to fast in the menu. Like a lot. Mine come with same enormous styrofoam box as in this video. The device is small, and has own small (pretty nice) box, and it would be sufficient to put it in a cardboard envelope. Not, styrofoam box that is 10 times the size of the unit. So that is disappointing. Most of the interface is snappy, despite needing to draw so many pixels. I like FNB58 tho, I just wish the main screen update was faster. I have my own Python scripts (you can easily find them on github) to do data logging over USB, and this is why I like them. (Their Windows software is okish, but not easy to automate). Offline recording feature is very limited, because of rather small storage space (12MB). So you either use low sampling rate, or short recording duration. If you want to record for days, you cannot. Also the format is not documented, so not easy to load in own software.
Hi, let me start with a big thanks to a such a detailed and long comment. I went to search and I found this on github ( github.com/baryluk/fnirsi-usb-power-data-logger ) is this your data logger? I might make a video on how to use this, if you don't mind. It was a really nice tip and information share. Kudos! Thanks for watching.
Does this meter only test power supplies with USB-A output connector? If you have a power supply with USB-C output then you need a different trster which has USB-C connector so it can connect to it ?
Lots of digits on voltage and current, I really doubt that the device is that accurately calibrated tho, probably not using the high accuracy ADC that would be needed to get that precision. I don't mind, I will order one anyway, but 2 decimals are quite enough for testing USB. I haven't watched the whole video yet, but I hope it can test cables without devices too. I want to test all my cables (and probably throw away most of them for being subpar quality😁)
Excellent review Hugo. Thanks for sharing. This is a great USB tester and it has many functions that i really like, especially the data logging capabilities.
hmm, Micro-USB for computer connection. The electronics manufacturers must have tons of Micro-USB on their shelves. I got a new OBD-tool from Autel a couple of months ago, and they also still use the Micro-USB for connection to the computer. I can't imagine any other reason than over-stock to use those.
Hi, I think that might have also a royalty issue in there also, they tend to avoid the Type-C for long and I think that was the reason. Not it is probably cheaper or/and the patent might have reached it's end life. Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the review! I actually bought this meter just as it launched (I was the 8th buyer according to Aliexpress). It's amazing how for the meters came as my previous was from 2015 and it's big feature was USB 3.0 pass through! XD Any chance of a video showing the PD 3.1 functionality? I already flashed the 0.62 FW but I do not own any PD 3.1 power supply on hand.
price on PD 3.1 chargers has come way down, I paid top dollar for Apple 140W-28V bc it was first on the market. the Rocoren is a good deal from Ama zon, regularly see coupons for $10-$20 off so it's $59-$69 (which is low for 140W PD3.1 charger), Anker 717 also option but only 1-port. Anker 737 is the first PD 3.1 Battery bank on the market, it was $99 on Oct 11 prime sale, but now back to $150. I don't recommend the Kovol one. you can get a certified EPR cable for about $12. Club 3D 240W orange cable is one of five that I tested (it works and is legit PD3.1 cable) - only $12 because it's basically power-only (has usb2 480mb data transfer). only the 240w/40G cables get expensive b.c of the 40G (USB4/thunderbolt 3).
Hi Lawstorant, to be honest, I don't know if I have any device PD 3.1 here... I have to search! But I will try to record tonight a video with the upgrade process to PD 3.1, the firmware was just released. They notify me this morning that is available on the website. 😎😁 Thanks for watching!
Thks & ?Did you updated the firmware PD3.0 to to PD3.1? FNIRSI FNB58 USB Tester ⭐ How to Firmware Update & Add PD 3.1 Support ua-cam.com/video/k5vDx_qWqO8/v-deo.html
Hi, thanks for watching and your kind comment. The link for the product is in the video description, but I leave it here again for you geni.us/6MarE , you can check the price there. Thanks.
Hi! You SHOULD be the guy who likes to remove the plastic from your electronic products! I did originally feel the need to leave those on my own gadgets, but it is a bad idea to leave them on devices that needs to dissipate heat. It might shorten the life span of the device, make it thermal throttle, overheat and malfunction or in worst case start a fire. I would suggest that you instead put the items in a suitable container like a small small zip-lock bag or bobble wrap pouch when you store it anywhere it can get scratched.
Hi, you have a USB Type-C input and output. The rest of the ports are for compability to allow you to connect to the several ports available. Thanks for watching.
Thank you for the review! I just would like to point out that downloading Chinese apk-s and running it on your Android device might be not safe. If that is something you really need - It would be good to run it on a dedicated device, which does not have any personal nor sensitive data.
Hi, you're are right, I don't usually install APK's on my phone that don't come directly form playstore. In this case, to have a more comprete review, I did had to do it. But, you are 100% right. Thanks for watching!
The .pdf manual is essentially useless. The website is likewise pathetic. How do you upgrade firmware from linux? Even if I used Windows, no way would I install software from some unknown CCP company. A tutorial that walks us through using it for usb port capabilities detection, then to other features would be useful.
Hi Stevie, thats where VirtualBox can be useful, if you don't trust the manufacturer and the software, install a clean Windows on a VM and test it there. Same with Linux, if windows is required for upgrade, I don't remember if it is, just install a VM on Linux with windows and you're able to test all these softwares. Thanks for watching.
Hi NeonIon, I'm so much in sync with what you said... after a year of reviewing they products, I'm starting to get the hang of it... but it took time! 😁 Thanks for watching!
Hi, that is a bit reducing of the work my reviews take, but totally entitled to your opinion that deserves my biggest respect and I can only thank you for the time watching the video.
@@TechCornerTV if u think well i don't say anything bad , it's still "amazing" to find how to say during 35min, just for this product ..... and it's sur just for that they can give u for free even 2or3 time lol..thx to U good luck
The .pdf manual is essentially useless. The website is likewise pathetic. How do you upgrade firmware from linux? Even if I used Windows, no way would I install software from some unknown CCP company. A tutorial that walks us through using it for usb port capabilities detection, then to other features would be useful.
Number 5 (USB on the front) is the input slot for Power. Number 6 is the Output port.
Hello, you're right, I made a mistake. Only notice after. Thanks for watching.
USB-C E-Marker is a chip that is required in USB-C cables that support over 60W of charging power. Cables with less than 60W charging power usually don't have that chip because they don't need it, according to the standard.
Hi again, thanks for sharing, nice to know 😁
You still have the protection film on your chargers because you don't want to scratch them, but the protection film doesn't make it look very nice either. It will also make the devices warmer and that is another reason you should not leave it on.
Hi, I confess... i have a problem (OCD 😁)! I'm one of those guys that want to the equipments always protected... I don't know if there is a support groups for guys like me... "hey guys, I'm Hugo and I'm a procrastinator of removing devices protection! today was a good day, I finally took the screen protection of the oscilloscope I bought 3 years ago..." 😁 Thanks for watching!
I dont take any protection film
Reminds me of my grandparents. They had clear plastic covers on all the couches, chairs and lampshades 😂
Maybe it’s a Mediterranean thing. 👍
@fu1r4 that protection film doesn't make the device warmer ! Is like Smartphone LCD - Display protection foil !
Regards,
@@DoctorCalabria I have seen that in several homes in USA (been in a lot of homes there). They (or ancestors) certainly were not from the Mediterranean.
I have this tester but I see that devices cannot trigger PD charging through the tester, only QC is possible. I have 100W PD charger, I have USBC cables capable of 100W. My laptop can charge through USBC 100W and it works, but only without the tester. The only use is to see if the charger supports PD charging. I wanted to see the power draw during charging but it is not possible.
Hello! Sorry for late reply, house move and vacations. I've noticed also some of these issues, not preciselly that one, but with the protocols. Please report it on the FNIRSI whatsapp channel to see if they can send and firmware update to correct that. Thanks for watching and for sharing!
I think you are wrong, there is a PD listener function, see an example here with a charging laptop ua-cam.com/video/CbKCVezzpYA/v-deo.htmlsi=FawXOlh6OWWU4MFh&t=187
Thank you for the review. Do you know of any other USB testers that offer similar functionality but with a male USB Type C connector?
Hi! Yes, I do. If every thing goes according the expected, I'll be reviewing the ChargerLAB Power-Z KM003C soon ( geni.us/power-z-km003c ) it has a male USB Type-C . Thanks for watching!
20:06 the device can also detect inferior and bad cables as mentioned in the manual
Hi, they say it can test bad cables, I did not have the chance to experiment that yet. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this and your other videos! I'm newer to these testers and your videos have helped.
I've been testing the FNB58 against the FNB48S and it seems the FNB48S seems to provides more data up front without having to jump into secondary screens. The navigation takes a moment, but the features are more quickly accessible (less menu navigation). Yes the interface on the FNB58 is nicer, but you compromise refresh speed. The FNB48S polls (or at least updates) data so much faster. The FNB48 main screen provides min/max V/A/W and load resistance which the FNB58 doesn't seem to provide at all?
I know this is an old video, but a FNB48P vs FNB58 would be an awesome comparison. I would love to see what you consider the pro/con of each unit. Thanks!
Hi, this idea was also added to my todo list. I have a very big queue of devices to review, have it covered until end of march at least, but will try to fit that one as soon it is possible. Thanks for watching.
14:44 sometimes ist reboots??
No, not sometimes - really quite a lot reboots!
Hello! Sorry for late reply, house move and vacations. Yes, it depends on the protocol you're working with.... I couldn't figure out exactly why! Thanks for watching.
@@TechCornerTV And one Problem at reboot - the data logging jump back to slot 1
Just got mine, it's very good and surprisingly intuitive to use. It can even detect cable adaptor resistance. I may put some JB weld around the male USB for additional mechanical reinforcement. Thanks.
Hi John, good to ear! Have fun with it 😃 Thanks for watching!
THANK YOU!!!! EXACTLY WHAT I wanted to know
Then you don't like it when I say it's a waste of your money. 💸 #MoneyTalks #FinancialWisdom
Hi,
Excuse me sir.please tell me about this device,can manually voltage Amp and watts up down ?
I finally got mine. One thing I noticed is that it does detect Apple 2.4A profile on the 12W Apple charger (and some others) (2.7V on D+ and 2.7V on D-) but it doesn't detect Apple 2.1A profile on 10W Apple charger (2.7V on D+ and 2V on D-). That's really unfortunate. The old Ruideng UM25(C) USB tester nicely detects Apple 2.1A profile on a charger.
Hi, weird! It is a big fail in that case, but for example PD3.1 was added recently by firmware update, maybe they will update in the future for those models.... thanks for watching!
Is it can handle data passthrough? Can I test an external HD drive for example?
Hi, sorry for the late reply. That is a very good question, I supose it can, you can test several devices consuption with it, but I imagine that the performance might be degraded. Never tested, but will try soon. Thanks for watching.
@@TechCornerTV yeah, it works. I bought one to debug a problem with an NVMe external case. You’re right about the degraded performance, as it only supports USB 2.0.
Got mine today and is great for testing. There is one thing I have noticed while using it. If I connect the usb tester to a mains powered charger either by usb a or c it will work perfectly, but if I connect the tester to a powerbank using the same outputs, usb c will only work if you have a device connected to the output. I have tried different cables and the powerbank outputs more than enough power. Does anyone know why the usb tester does this?
I see a bluetooth version and a no bluetooth version. Are there any differences other than bluetooth, is firmware same? Which version should I choose?
Hi, if you want to check the stats on your mobile phone, you need the bluetooth version. If you don't need that, you can order the black one. Thats the only difference, all the rest is equal and I believe that use the same firmware, but the bluetooth version has the hardware for it. Thanks for watching!
Hello, can this tester also trigger PD PPS voltages in 0,2V steps?
Hi, not sure, but I think no. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the great review!
Can the FNIRSI FNB58 use, identify and test Thunderbolt 3 and Thunderbolt 4 cables?
Thank you!
Hi, thanks for your nice comment, that's the Apple cables right, no, it works only with USB cables. Thanks for watching.
@@TechCornerTV Thank you, I appreciate your kind help
Thank you for the first review of the product for the western world. I am interested in the data logging capabilities of the device. Which parameters does it log ? Voltage and current only ? Can the log file be exported in CSV format ? What is the maximum frequency of logging in offline mode ? Is it possible to log directly onto the phone when connected via Bluetooth in online mode ? Thanks
Hi Yıldıray, So you can log the VBUS (voltage), IBUS (amperage), D+, D-, PBUS (wattage), CAP and NRG.
I wasn't able to save the data in the mobile app, only in the PC. On mobile it seems to work only in live mode. It saves to a CFN extension that my computer identified as a CFW file. Is binary, Maybe there is some utility to convert to CSV. The maximum time division is 5s and the minimum is 0.1/div. Hope that this help you. Thanks for watching! 👍
@@TechCornerTV Hello, is there a way to record the high-speed ripple for voltage?
You can convert CNF to CSV using a basic script, it is avaliable on Github. Just follow the instructions.
Link for the script:
github.com/didim99/usbmeter-utils/tree/master
@@ecetsn Thank you. FNIRSI FNB48P. Is this the updated version of FNB58 ? It is released later but using a model name that is somewhat confusing.
A very good review. Thanks for sharing with us.
Hi Chuck, thanks for watching! 👍
Can anyone tell me where I can read on the FNIRSI FNB58 whether a device supports PPS? The device should actually be able to read this, but I can not find it.
can you please test this with a one plus charger it would help me a lot
Hi, I would love to, but I don't have OnePlus chargers to test, sorry. Thanks for watching.
The rebooting is very concerning. Was that fixed by using a different power supply, or a firmware update?
Hi, I do believe that the power supply also has influence in that behaviour, but shouldn't be the all story, anyway, since this video you have one or two firmware updates, might help. Thanks for watching!
Which is better, this or avhzy?
Hi, not tested the Avhzy yet, but guess what! I received a unit for testing and it will be one of my next videos, it will be release in the following weeks. You can see my feedback when it comes out. Thanks for watching.
Does anybody have a link to the Blutooth App? Doesnt find it on FNIRSI nor in the cloud 😞
I finnaly found it. But this is why this Chinese products is less worth: The Software is not supperior and the Support is nearly non existent! Shame when the hardware seems to be interesting
Hi, I see that you find the application already, it is simple but it will give you everything you need. Thanks for watching.
It showed you how in the video from since before you even asked... Try watching the video before asking questions.
Can I use an usb c adaptor on the front ush? Maybe a stupid question but I want to stick it into devices instead of using cables because my cables are bad.
HI, yes you can! Thanks for watching.
@@TechCornerTV thank you!
Great.
Can this device trigger the board of the charger ( adapter) telling if the charger is authentic ( original) or fake?
I mean , doing so by telling the brand name of the charger on the screen of the usb tester.
Hi, that will be a neat feature, but I don't think so. You can test cables, but not know the charger brand. Thanks for watching!
How accurate is fnirsi fnb58
Because when I checked… the original charger from apple, samsung. The wattage results did not match. Please help me understand this issue.
Hello, in my case seemed to be pretty reliable, but different power supplies can behave differently. Only seeing what happened can have a better idea. But at least until now, I don't have reasons to suspect they're are unreliable. Thanks for watching.
I just want to see what amp volts and watts is doing do i need to have a firmware update for that.
I would be very interested to know if this device somehow can also be used to detect which wires are present for data transfer.
Because some are for power transfer only and by looking at the connector it cannot be determined if the wires for data transfer are present.
For example, some cables that have been advertised as an USB3 ready cable and has also the proper USB3 connectors on each end are (intentionally or not) only provided with only D- and D+ wires, which in turn makes them USB2 cables.
Hello! Sorry for late reply, house move and vacations. That would be neat, but I don't think so. Thanks for watching!
would be great if you could do a side by side comparison of the FNB58 to the Power-Z KM003 PD 3.1 tester and also compare both of their PC software since they look very different. The KM003C is the newest version of the tester (old was KM002c). KM003C range has been increased to 50V 6A for example which is future proof. since the PD3.1 standard goes all the way up to 48Volt 5Amps, 240W. It would be good to know if the FNB58 is also spec'd to 50V 6Amp, or at the minimum at least be able to handle current 140W-28V chargers.
I was reading the FNB58 spec list and it appears to be only 4V-28V, and maximum of 120W. This is concerning if these are specs since the lowest PD3.1 charger is already at 28V, 140W, how will it safely test them? this is why a side by side comparison would be good includng if they are both rated to test current 140W/28V PD 3.1 charger. The KM003C I can only find on AliE x press for $80 right now, it will probably be on Ama zon soon , KM003C also has a slightly bigger screen than the older KM002C.
Hi! I reached out the manufacturer, if they agree to send me one unit, I will review it here and fo a comparation video!
Back to this topic, they only deliver to USA, so that KM003R will not happen, at the moment I will not spend 80 to 100€ on this KM003c tester.
Kann der FNB58 nur 120 Watt? Lässt sich das per Firmware ändern oder kann die Hardware nicht mehr?
can you test transfer speeds and check if it's USB 4 40gbps?
Hi, at the moment I don't have a USB 4 device to test it. As soon I have, I will test it. Thanks for watching.
I got mine today. After update to latest version some function doesn't work. Like PD listener,it keep reboot never enter menu
Hi, sorry to hear that, try the whatsapp FNIRSI group, they usually help there. Thanks for watching!
Maaf Bertanya, Apa fungsi trigger, apakah aman untuk charge handphone? Adakah aturan tertentu?
Hi, the trigger is when you force the device a specific protocol, like QC or PD. It is safe to use with a mobile phone, I used with mine with no problem. Thanks for watching.
@@TechCornerTVTerima kasih untuk Jawabannya,
Tapi saya jadi bingung, karena saya bertanya di reviewer lain tidak menyarankan untuk ponsel karena akan merusak ponsel tersebut. Jadi mana yang benar? Atau ada batas volt yg aman ?
Dan saya berfikir kalau tidak aman untuk ponsel, lalu untuk apa fitur trigger ada di usb tester ini. Ada kah penjelasannya ?
I just bought this tester and wanted to test a "26800mah" power bank I bought from Amazon. I don't quite understand how to read the results that's right in front of me. Lol. Is it a 9900mAh or 19600mAH capacity?
Screen says the following:
Battery CAP Calculation
Group: 01
Time: 0 days 14:36:41
CAP: 9.92364 Ah
NRG: 80.5495 Wh
BAT Vol: 3.7V
Conv Eff: 90%
Results: 19.5931 Ah
Thanks!
Hi, the way I see it, and notice that I might be wrong, your 26800mAh has a teorical 26800mAh capacity, but in real life, you get 19600KmAh. Thanks for watching.
@@TechCornerTV thank you. I have a couple of power banks I'd like to test for its capacity. I see on your video that there are 10 possible info screens. Been searching how to configure the FNB58 to use a difference screen to record battery capacity for each of my power banks. Do you by chance know how to do it? I found the lack of documentation the only downside of this otherwise great tester. Lol.
@JagMan903 Whats wrong with just making notes of the results after each test? Why do you need the device to do what you can do with pen and paper (or saving in a text file, whatever?)
@RationallySkeptical what's wrong with using the features it has? Why can't I use that instead of writing it down?
Is it really worth paying extra for the bluethoot version? It is much harder to find and more expensive and seems more like a gadget to me. Can it connect to the computer with the software or is it only via a cell phone and the android app?
I need to capture the max V, A and W for a specific device over a period of time. The description makes it sound like it can do that but I cannot figure it out. Has anyone else been able to do that?
Hi, yes it can. You can record max values. Thanks for watching.
@@TechCornerTV In what section? I've gone through every screen and do not see where the max values are captured. I did find out they have a different model (cheaper) that shows it on the "Main" page with the current values.
Thank you for the video. Has been hard trying to determine which power meters have the features I’m looking for. This helped big time.
Hi, great to hear! Thanks for watching!
How does it compare to FNB48P ?
Hi, I never tested the FNB48P, there will be released a new version of this device that I probably will test. I let you know then. But they're pretty similiar, specially the new FNB48 that will be released soon. Thanks for watching!
It doesn't detect the Xiaomi protocols?
Hi Nick, it added the Xiaomi support in the last firmware, see this short video ua-cam.com/video/k5vDx_qWqO8/v-deo.html , I show there the readme file for the new firmware. Thanks for watching!
@@TechCornerTV Thanks!
hello , please can you add link download for Bluetooth apps on Android?
Hi, it should be on FNIRSI website, support section. If you can't find it there, use the QR code to enter the Whatsapp FNIRSI support group and ask there, they will provide it to you. Thanks for watching.
I bought one of these. it is indeed very powerful. The Problem is, the main information I need to know will never be shown.. Which Protocol is used by the load.
Device shows N/A, Android App doesn´t show that information at all. Windows Software shows "PD MTK" "unknown" ..
so.. what is used now?!
It would be a massive powerful device if it would show these information.
Hi! Hmmm... you should join the FNIRSI whatsapp chat and suggest that to them, they're very responsive and I know that there will be out in the market a new model very soon, so they're always working on this devices, maybe they can add this to a firmware update. Thanks for watching!
@@TechCornerTV where can i find that Chat? Thanks.
@@TechCornerTVIs this new model FNB48P? If so, it looks like old FNB48 only in a new case. I'm waiting for something with voltage range up to 50V and full PD3.1 support. Recently I found tester Power-Z KM003C. It looks very good, but has only USB-C connectors.
This device seems great at first but its so buggy and unstable.
Im using latest FW 0.68 and it is still a bad product.
It freezes a lot, It restarts a lot. It doesnt recognize many cables and chargers.
Im using 100W PD charger, 100W and 250W USBC cables. When I try to charge my macbook, this setup can charge it at around 90W. When I connect it through this meter, it only maxes at 28W.
Not satisifed with this at all :/
Hi, I don't have such a bad impression of it. It's true that it freezes sometimes, but other than that I don't have major complains. Thanks for sharing and watching.
I have that problem occasionally too. If you plug in the USB-C cable the other way around (turned 180 degrees), it works and it delivers 90 watts of power.
Even if I download an application for Bluetooth from the site, I don't have an apk file even if I unzip it, so how can I get an apk file?
Hi, you have to see the video again. Is all there, I explain how to download the APK and to install it 😁 Thanks for watching!
Can this device check the specifications on the chip in the cables. Like if the cabel support 100 W PD & QC4 or MFi certified
Hi, yes it can detect the E-Marker chip of the cables. Thanks for watching!
is it better than the FNB48P?
Hi David, I never tested the FNB48P, there will be released a new version of this device that I probably will test. I let you know then. But they're pretty similiar, specially the new FNB48 that will be released soon. Thanks for watching!
Has anyone tested and compared this to the 100$ power z km003?
Hi Devon, I have one here to test, but arrive with the screen broken and I didn't had the time yet to fix it and review it. I hope to do it soon. Thanks for watching.
What's the max wattage that it can measure?
Hello, it has a range from 0 to 140W. Thanks for watching.
@@TechCornerTV the Ali listing says: 0-7A,0-120W, where do you see 140W
Hi,
Can the device detect PPS protocol?
Hi, I don't think so. Thanks for watching and wish you a Happy New Year!
Mine show error code 02 when power up with power bank. Is there a way to fix it?
Hi, ask for the firmware on FNIRSI whatsapp group and reinstall the firmware, it probably should help, but anyway, they're pretty responsive, they will help for sure. Thanks for watching.
PS - Hope you solve your issue 🤞
I use a 120 watt power supply
input C
when connecting output C to the headphone it immediately turns off
The tester has a male usb-a plug. I plugged it into my dell inspiron 3668 which has 2 usb 3.0 ports on front panel. device says they're 2.0. can anyone try this?
Hi, sorry don't have that model to test it. Thanks for watching
Hello, I have also been very happy with the Fnirsi FNB58 for over a year. Very good and informative video about the tester. Unfortunately, the app has not worked for about a month. My phone connects to the tester, but after confirming the start button, the app no longer provides any performance data. Since I bought the tester primarily to check the performance data of mobile (foldable) solar panels, this limitation is very annoying. Have you also been having problems with the app recently?
Hi, I have to be honest here, I use it mainly occasionally to test some USB devices in terms of power used. I don't use normally the app, installed for the review. But please make sure you have location "ON" on your mobile, without that the app doesn't work well. Go figure. Thanks for watching.
Excellent Review 👍
Hi, glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
Hi, you know how i can test accurate battery capacity?(battery CAP Calculation) if i test with default settings battery voltage: 3.7v and conv. eff: 90% i have more mah than real, tested against klein tools battery tester. i need move these battery settings?
How does it compare to AVHzY CT-3?
Hi, never had the opportunity to test the AVHzY CT-3, so I don't like to talk without testing the devices. But after your e-mail and since someone asked me the same before, I'll write to them to see if they're interested in sending one unit for review. Thanks for watching!
@@TechCornerTV
That would be great, thanks!
I also couldn't find anything about Fnirsi FNB48P, seems very similar to FNB58.
I'll need to compare their specifications but for now literally no one made a single video about it. ;/
@@MCgranat999 FNB48P is on the way, shoud arrive in the a few days!
@@TechCornerTV
That's awesome!
I'll wait patiently for a new video then ;P
@@MCgranat999 To me FNB48P looks like FNB48 only in better looking case.
Excellent review, Thanks bro.
Hi, glad you liked it and thanks for watching!
Thank you for your videos and huge effort. Below is not on you, but what i think is a huge fail of Fnirsi FNB58 to not include PD3.1 support.
If you have any communication with FNirsi please ask them why they did not include PD3.1 28V support? (I'm shocked they forgot this). Could they possibly add firmware upgrade to fix lack of PD 3.1 support?
I had to get the Power-Z labs KM002C because I'm testing the new PD3.1 chargers 140W/28V. Fnirsi FNB58 looks pretty, but no PD3.1 means I can't test any of a dozen new PD3.1 chargers like Anker 717, 737, Apple 140W, etc., or read any of the new 240W EPR PD3.1 cables.
I would love an option that was not the Power-Z labs expensive $99 KM002C (soon to be KM003). but they are still only one that supports the newest Usb-c PD 3.1. I was hoping Fnirsi would offer a budget PD3.1 USB-C tester, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's just same old features.
Hi there, not yet, it is scheduled a new firmware release for tomorow supporting the PD 3.1. Thanks for watching 👍
@@TechCornerTV AWESOME. this is GOOD news. I can't wait to see this. $50 option means my friends don't need to spend $99.99 on the Km002C/Km003 to get PD 3.1 testing which is what all USB-C testers in 2022+ should have.
@@neo256mb I just flashed the update. I indeed does support PD 3.1 with EPR and AVS but I don't know about 240W. It SHOULD be able to read the e-markers as that's something that can be easily implemented in FW, bu I don't think It'll be able to actually monitor 48V/5A
@@FOREST10PL Could you let me know if the Fnirsi can do the following. the KM002C I have now can do 3 important things:
(1) plug into any of the new chargers 140W/28V PD 3.1 and analize the PD28V chargers and also does PD 28V trigger. The highest EPR PD3.1 chargers in 2022 are only 28V- 140W.
so it has to be able to monitor that or else it's not really supporting PD3.1. in a couple years from now we may have chargers up to 48V, but that is a long way off.
The PD 3.1 Cables are a different story. USB-IF approved the highest 240W-48V-5Amp cable already and it's on the market which replaces all 100W cables since the 240W with emark covers everything below as well. This 240W PD 3.1 cable is intended to be used on the first wave 140W - 28V EPR PD 3.1 chargers (a 100W cable will only negotiate at weaker 20V/5amps on the new 140W/28V charger and not the full 28V like the 240W cables can).
In other words, USB-IF simplified the new USB-C cable so the EPR PD3.1 cable is already at highest level even if the chargers and devices in 2022 are at first stage of EPR (28V/140w). The 240W-48V cable is needed to fully work for this first wave of 28V-140W chargers, and next wave in 1-2 years of 36V chargers, and then more years, the ultimate 48V-240W EPR PD 3.1 chargers (without a need to change the cable since we already can buy the highest EPR power cable, PD 3.1 240W, today).
(2) there is a feature where I can plug one side into any low usb power, and other port into any PD3.1 Cable like a 240W/48V/5amp Cable, it will read the Emark, and tell me all the information, vendor name, if vendor labeled it as 240W or 100W, and a bunch of other E-mark fields relevant to testing if 240W cable is legit or has emark in it.
The KM002C from power-Z labs can already do PD3.1 240W cables.
PD3.1 cables are all 240W cables, they are the only official USB-IF PD3.1 EPR cable (the 100W cable is only PD3.0 and was deprecated back in Dec 2021. the PD60 cables do not have emark chip and are SPR (standard power range)).
If the FNirsi can not handle PD 3.1 cables (240W/48V/5a) then I'm not sure it's fully supporting PD 3.1? the KM002C device can indeed handle 240W cables already since they are the official PD 3.1 cables.
(3) connect to a PC by USB cable and have another cable going to a charger, to capture the trace between the PD 3.1 charger to PD 3.1 Cable to the EPR device or a 28V Decoy pcb device. Then show on PC all the negotiated messages between the charger and the device so we can analyze if there is a problem on the Charger side or the device side with PD negotiation (or confirm all messages are good based on what you see of the trace in the km002 PC software).
I can then share/email this trace file to someone else who can open it with the same software if we are working together on some open source project. the software for the KM002 PC side is free to download. This part is important since I'm already able to do this level of PD 3.1 testing with the km002. some people I know can not afford $99 km002C, and would like to help with troubleshooting for open source projects. if the Fnisi can do this , then there is a $50 low cost alternative to start helping. if Firnisi can not do this, then it's only the KM002 that is PD 3.1 capable of capturing traces and showing PD 3.1 negotiated messages.
Please let me know thanks. can not recommend the Fnirsi unless I know that it can do the above. much appreciated.
@@neo256mb Sorry, I don't have any PD 3.1 power supplies to confirm these things but the device itself is able to handle 28V. The rest of your questions have been answered in the video. There's a separate "PC" port (micro USB) that can be used to power the device separately and gather data, albeit their PC software is quite meh.
On the protocol sniffing, yes. You can see the CRC messages between the charger and the device. You can read the e-marker also but it doesn't have the Vendor names built-in, you only get the Vendor ID and you'll have to use google to find it's name (which is not that bad TBH).
So yeah, we should wait for the response from the channel, but I don't see why it wouldn't. Apart from supporting voltages higher than 28V, there's nothing in PD 3.1 they couldn't just add in FW. Fingers crossed as it's waaaaaay cheaper than KM002
I got one of these today. Found this video after testing it out. Accuracy is mostly marketing, but it's good enough to get a sense of what's going on. Really pleased with it as an entry point into this kind of hobby. I went and tested all my charging bricks and was quite surprised by the results! Keep in mind that you need a Windows PC to update the firmware, which should be done.
Hello! Sorry for late reply, house move and vacations. Regarding your comment. As always, you get what you pay for, I can't expect to have a very high precision device for this price, but even so, mine is fairly accurate. Agree with you that the firmware upgrade should be done, there is always to be fixed. Thanks for your input and for watching!
Even if I used Windows, no way would I install software from some unknown CCP company.
@@StevieRayLou you prefer american spyware. Fair enough.
@@StevieRayLouJust install a fricking disposable VM for that... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I usually do that for using one time shady software. VM's snapshot feature is your friend.
Usb micro to PC is this days a no go for me, they could have done it easy with usb c port and appropriate cables included or to buy them extra that work 100% with all the protocols.
Hi! I understand what you say, nowadays there's no reason to use USB-C. Thanks for watching!
@@TechCornerTV you meant micro usb 🤔
This is stupid. You're going to reject the best tester on the market because you don't want to buy a $5 adapter or cable? GTFO dude
some minor fix suggestions on the GUI for FNIRSI in the upcoming firmware :
18:48 "SUMSUNGAFC"
21:20 Output numbering has no space with the label, could lead users to easily misread 5.00V as 15.00V, 9.00V as 29.00V, and so on.
i hope FNIRSI read this comments section. 😉
Hey Radius, don't believe that they see this comments, anyway I will forward the info to them. Thanks for watching!
For anyone else reading this comment, I just updated my FNB58 (Bluetooth version, though this detail shouldn't matter, really) to firmware V0.67, and it seems that FNIRSI has corrected both suggestions:
1. "SUMSUNGAFC" has been changed to "SAMSUNG AFC" (corrected Samsung and inserted space for visibility);
2. Output numbering now has a space to separate from the value, again for visibility. Example (Google 30W charger):
1 5.00V 3.00A
2 9.00V 3.00A
3 15.00V 2.00A
4 20.00V 1.50A
5 3.30-11.00V 3.00A
6 3.30-16.00V 2.00A
7 3.30-21.00V 1.50A
I swear the single spaces are easier to read in person. Also they wouldn't have enough space for the last 3 lines in this case if double spacing was used, so yeah.
Nice to know that they do listen to our feedback.
@@dashboss7016 hey, thank you for the update. 😃
@@radius.indrawan You're welcome! 😊
What is the pd com switch for?
Hi, I have to confess that I didn't read the entire manual, but with the PD on, the in sockets would not work and this powers on using the USB-A in plug. I will try to find out more about it and update you or make a video about some extra usage experiences. Thanks for watching!
It's to trigger Power Delivery mode
If you have other Fnirsi meters, like FNB48 or C-1, then this is ok, but in some ways it is worse. The LCD screen is way nicer, insanely high resolution, nice fonts, and viewed better. The LCD is only slightly larger, but it so much sharper with better contrast and viewing angles. Case is better, current handling is better, and menus are easier to navigate. At the same time, the main screen update rate is slower than on FNB48, even when refresh rate is set to fast in the menu. Like a lot. Mine come with same enormous styrofoam box as in this video. The device is small, and has own small (pretty nice) box, and it would be sufficient to put it in a cardboard envelope. Not, styrofoam box that is 10 times the size of the unit. So that is disappointing.
Most of the interface is snappy, despite needing to draw so many pixels. I like FNB58 tho, I just wish the main screen update was faster. I have my own Python scripts (you can easily find them on github) to do data logging over USB, and this is why I like them. (Their Windows software is okish, but not easy to automate).
Offline recording feature is very limited, because of rather small storage space (12MB). So you either use low sampling rate, or short recording duration. If you want to record for days, you cannot. Also the format is not documented, so not easy to load in own software.
Hi, let me start with a big thanks to a such a detailed and long comment. I went to search and I found this on github ( github.com/baryluk/fnirsi-usb-power-data-logger ) is this your data logger? I might make a video on how to use this, if you don't mind. It was a really nice tip and information share. Kudos! Thanks for watching.
Does this meter only test power supplies with USB-A output connector? If you have a power supply with USB-C output then you need a different trster which has USB-C connector so it can connect to it ?
Hi, you can input or output either USB-A or USB-B and you have also a microUSB for input. Thanks for watching!
1:30 I suggested you should censor the sensitive information next time, thank you
Hi, thanks for the tip and for watching! Take care.
Lots of digits on voltage and current, I really doubt that the device is that accurately calibrated tho, probably not using the high accuracy ADC that would be needed to get that precision. I don't mind, I will order one anyway, but 2 decimals are quite enough for testing USB.
I haven't watched the whole video yet, but I hope it can test cables without devices too. I want to test all my cables (and probably throw away most of them for being subpar quality😁)
Hi, for my tests, it was reasonably accurate. Not a multimeter accurate, but enough. If it needs so many digits, probably not. Thanks for watching.
@@TechCornerTV It is delivered now, and I like it a lot. It is a great addition to my unnecessarily large device family 😁
Parabens amigo , Saludos desde Espanha
Outstanding review.
Hi, glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
Excellent review Hugo. Thanks for sharing. This is a great USB tester and it has many functions that i really like, especially the data logging capabilities.
Hello Khuong, it was my pleasure 😁 and yes it is packed with features! Very nice unit. Thanks for watching 👍
Super...thank you 100% Best.
Hi, thank you so much for watching and your nice comment! Really appreciated.
hmm, Micro-USB for computer connection. The electronics manufacturers must have tons of Micro-USB on their shelves. I got a new OBD-tool from Autel a couple of months ago, and they also still use the Micro-USB for connection to the computer. I can't imagine any other reason than over-stock to use those.
Hi, I think that might have also a royalty issue in there also, they tend to avoid the Type-C for long and I think that was the reason. Not it is probably cheaper or/and the patent might have reached it's end life. Thanks for watching.
@@TechCornerTV Maybe because they need a connector that can't be used "upside down"?
Great video. Congrats.
Hi, glad you liked it! I hope it was helpful, thanks for watching!
ctt :) great video my friend awsome
Hi, thank you for watching and your nice comment!
@@TechCornerTV é um prazer, your welcome
Fantastic review. It does so much, I will have to buy one. 😉✌
Hi, You should! It is really a neat device. Thanks for watching 👍
Thanks for the review! I actually bought this meter just as it launched (I was the 8th buyer according to Aliexpress). It's amazing how for the meters came as my previous was from 2015 and it's big feature was USB 3.0 pass through! XD
Any chance of a video showing the PD 3.1 functionality? I already flashed the 0.62 FW but I do not own any PD 3.1 power supply on hand.
price on PD 3.1 chargers has come way down, I paid top dollar for Apple 140W-28V bc it was first on the market. the Rocoren is a good deal from Ama zon, regularly see coupons for $10-$20 off so it's $59-$69 (which is low for 140W PD3.1 charger), Anker 717 also option but only 1-port. Anker 737 is the first PD 3.1 Battery bank on the market, it was $99 on Oct 11 prime sale, but now back to $150. I don't recommend the Kovol one. you can get a certified EPR cable for about $12. Club 3D 240W orange cable is one of five that I tested (it works and is legit PD3.1 cable) - only $12 because it's basically power-only (has usb2 480mb data transfer). only the 240w/40G cables get expensive b.c of the 40G (USB4/thunderbolt 3).
Hi Lawstorant, to be honest, I don't know if I have any device PD 3.1 here... I have to search! But I will try to record tonight a video with the upgrade process to PD 3.1, the firmware was just released. They notify me this morning that is available on the website. 😎😁 Thanks for watching!
Thks & ?Did you updated the firmware PD3.0 to to PD3.1?
FNIRSI FNB58 USB Tester ⭐ How to Firmware Update & Add PD 3.1 Support ua-cam.com/video/k5vDx_qWqO8/v-deo.html
Hi, yes I did, it is explained in the video. Thanks for watching!
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Hi, thanks for watching and your kind comment. The link for the product is in the video description, but I leave it here again for you geni.us/6MarE , you can check the price there. Thanks.
hola , muy buena revisión. saludos desde bs as
Hola Pablo, muchas gracias! I think this is right 😁 I can read/understand spanish but don't know enough to write, thanks so much for watching 👍
@@TechCornerTV te entiendo, me pasa lo mismo con el inglés :)
Downsides: Can't upgrade firmware using Linux. No iPhone app for bluetooth support.
True, no iPhone app.
I sent them an email about Linux and they said working on it.
34:00 Android UI typo - "TRRIGER"
Hi, thanks for reporting, going to pass that to FNIRSI. Thanks for watching!
Hi! You SHOULD be the guy who likes to remove the plastic from your electronic products! I did originally feel the need to leave those on my own gadgets, but it is a bad idea to leave them on devices that needs to dissipate heat. It might shorten the life span of the device, make it thermal throttle, overheat and malfunction or in worst case start a fire.
I would suggest that you instead put the items in a suitable container like a small small zip-lock bag or bobble wrap pouch when you store it anywhere it can get scratched.
Hi, I will try to fight my light OCD and follow your suggestions 😁 thanks for watching.
really wished it is USBC
Hi, you have a USB Type-C input and output. The rest of the ports are for compability to allow you to connect to the several ports available. Thanks for watching.
great device! good job Fnirsi and thank you Hugo for the review. 👍🏻😃
Hi Radius, glad you like it! Thanks for watching.
Yeah, they have a new website now and I can't find a manual or software. Proceed with caution in 2024...
Hi, you can always ask in the whatsapp FNIRSI support group, if they don't provide it to you, someone in there will. Thanks for watching.
This is a lie. I got my device today and INSTANTLY found the pdf to download.
Thank you for the review! I just would like to point out that downloading Chinese apk-s and running it on your Android device might be not safe. If that is something you really need - It would be good to run it on a dedicated device, which does not have any personal nor sensitive data.
Hi, you're are right, I don't usually install APK's on my phone that don't come directly form playstore. In this case, to have a more comprete review, I did had to do it. But, you are 100% right. Thanks for watching!
The .pdf manual is essentially useless. The website is likewise pathetic. How do you upgrade firmware from linux? Even if I used Windows, no way would I install software from some unknown CCP company. A tutorial that walks us through using it for usb port capabilities detection, then to other features would be useful.
Hi Stevie, thats where VirtualBox can be useful, if you don't trust the manufacturer and the software, install a clean Windows on a VM and test it there. Same with Linux, if windows is required for upgrade, I don't remember if it is, just install a VM on Linux with windows and you're able to test all these softwares. Thanks for watching.
Even if I used Windows, no way would I install software from some unknown CCP company.
Well, that I can't help... I do program, but not for FNIRSI... 😁
Terrible company name
Hi NeonIon, I'm so much in sync with what you said... after a year of reviewing they products, I'm starting to get the hang of it... but it took time! 😁 Thanks for watching!
Huh, that is a waste of money...
Hi, thanks for sharing and watching!
Doesn't tell me shit
Thanks for watching!
50$ for that ....what'samazing it's to speak 35min for describe that
Hi, that is a bit reducing of the work my reviews take, but totally entitled to your opinion that deserves my biggest respect and I can only thank you for the time watching the video.
@@TechCornerTV if u think well i don't say anything bad ,
it's still "amazing" to find how to say during 35min, just for this product ..... and it's sur just for that they can give u for free even 2or3 time lol..thx to U
good luck
The .pdf manual is essentially useless. The website is likewise pathetic. How do you upgrade firmware from linux? Even if I used Windows, no way would I install software from some unknown CCP company. A tutorial that walks us through using it for usb port capabilities detection, then to other features would be useful.
Hi, Somewhere in the previous answers, I commented on this! Thanks for watching.