Bore score is mainly due to bad injector washing the oil off the cylinder wall. Sample the oil, fuel in the oil is the 1st indicator. Run fuel injector cleaner often on DI cars.
I almost spat my coffee out at that bill! Well done for getting it done and at a reputable porshe specialist. You can enjoy it with more peace of mind now you've bought it up to standard. Will also give future owners more confidence if you sell down the road.
I spoke to Angus for a full rebuild on a cayman s 987 quote was around 8k plus vat included 6 Niki liners too of course I can see why your bill is quite abit more as you’ve had other work done like clutch and some other stuff ?
Because I have a separate daily driver and decent sized driveway - I would have done the work on my own and invested the labor costs into my tool collection. Here I would have sourced the parts on my own and bought the following tools: quick jack to lift the car, an engine jack / holder to pull the engine and transmission out Once the engine was out I would go to town updating old pipes and seals this would take a bunch of time but I think its worth it for these cars, considering these items are why the values have dropped in these cars making them affordable (987.1) Also next time I want to lift the car up and do suspension work, itll be much easier / cheaper with my new jacks
Well done for digging deep and fixing it rather than breaking it for parts and getting another car. I do wonder what it would cost to get a relatively similar non-porsche engine rebuilt in a similar way, parts-wise I'm sure dealers and breakers take liberties just because of the badge.
That’s a great price! I just paid $29k US to rebuild my 996.2. I needed new cylinder liners so I went to 4.0l with forged piston rods. That added $7k to the build. You’re still getting a steal!
Thanks for watching. I Was trying to keep the costs low while still getting a proper job done. I see that Hartch in the uk offer a service to increase engine size but the costs are huge :)
Thank you so much for this superb information.. I keep toying with the idea of buying either a Boxster or a Cayman to replace my Abarth 124 spider but I keep seeing videos about problems and I don’t know if I’m as brave as you are to go through all this. now you’ve done all this work, you can really enjoy this superb car.👍
Thanks for watching Peter. I love the abarth. I would probably get a boxster from a dealer with a warrentee or even buy one that has had a rebuild done. AMS had some for sale last time i was there. May be worth looking at. Be careful, Once you buy a Porsche there is no going back :)
@@willbehindthecamera very enjoyable to watch this kind of video, thank you. I think you might be right about buying one from a dealer, as long as it’s a good one. There are so few sports cars to choose from, maybe it’s time for a Porsche. I’ve only driven a 911 and it had a really impressive grown-up go-kart like feel. Thanks for the advice. 👍
New subscriber. That was very interesting. So about 3,800 pounds incl. VAT for labour. I'm always curious the decision factor that would make someone who was a competent home mechanic choose not trying doing it themselves. That 3,800 could buy a lot of the specialist tools needed. I guess it's the fantasy that YTube car mechanicing videos can lead one to dream that these jobs are straightforward. Until a part won't fit, or you break something when trying to dismantle it. Then the headaches begin ...
The upcharge for the crankshaft, IMS, and clutch seems a bit steep to me, especially considering the eBay price included VAT. Also, given the nature of the eBay rebuild, what are the chances you wouldn't need a crankshaft? I also have to say that the 6k quoted to additionally address bore scoring seems steep to me. Obviously, this was a bitter pill to swallow. IMO, it makes a strong case for buying a car with a rebuild already done, because it tends not to add much to the purchase price. A car in need of such a rebuild is worth very little, and a car with bore scoring is arguably completely worthless. Anyway, thank you for sharing this! And as I see it's now been a year since, I hope you have had no more problems, have no regrets, and have been able to fully enjoy the car!
Thanks Mate. Wasnt a great time but I try to look on the bright side of it. Ive realy joined the comunity as a result of the conversations I've had with other porsche club members. Without this I probably wouldnt have started a youtube channel. Hopefully adventures aren't too far off as spring is on the way.
I think you have been brave in not including new cylinders in the rebuild, Hope that does not come back and bite you. There is only one engine builder I would have sent your car off to and that would have been Hartech. Their reputation for these Gen 1 engine rebuilds, and there total solution in relation to bore scoring is fantastic. I hope your builder told you to put some heat into the engine before giving it full beans (even after any breaking in period they have recommended). Its adds to longevity. Shame Porsche never put in a variable rev limiter like on the BMW M cars to avoid cold engine abuse.
Hi Anthony. Thanks for watching. With me not knowing what the cause of the engine failure was I needed it taking apart. From there Hartech is where it would have been sent if I decided to go with new cylinders. Definitly after running it in I am very careful with giving it time to warm up.
I added an extra £10k to my budget and bought the 987.2 base Cayman spec out with a cracking 2.9 engine, I would not change it for anything as it’s at home driving in London traffic. There are good deals to be had with the 2.7 Gen 1 if you live in an urban area with no intention to track your car but stretching to the 2.9 Gen 2 is fantastic especially if you drive all Cayman engine variants back to back. Well at a considerable cost you now have a well sorted Porsche Boxster. Just thinking out the box 📦 here for prospective buyers who perhaps narrow their options only to face a catastrophic repair bills. Enjoy your new build hopefully trouble free!
Useful to know, expensive, but, you know its done, you coukd buy another and have the same thing, im toying with buying one with a blown engine n starting again.....but easy to say from the armchair of course.....well done for persevering!
Hi Vince thanks for watching. Im hopefully going to be getting more vids our asap. I bought this car on 70k with good service history by porsche specialists. The service a year before I bought it was done by weissach uk, who are some of the best in the game. Still a bit of a mystery how the engine failed. But its been running well now that the guys at AMS have rebuilt it.
@@willbehindthecamera Hi Will thanks for your reply, and good news on the Porsche, you deserve it !! I’m just about to purchase a gen 2 Boxster and really looking forward to it. 👍
That bill is mental. 😂. How much did you pay for the car anyway? I suppose paying that makes sense if you’re gonna keep it for a while - & to be fair you could probably sell & get most of your money back. Just wondering in my case if it’s worth it - if I realise it would need that much money to put it right. Do you think most of the stuff was neccesary/or more just replacing to be safe?
Thanks for watching Harrison. I paid 12 for the car, so it is still cheaper than a newer 140i or golf R, these were cars I thought of before buying this. I think I'll hold onto this one now as I know its been sorted. Looking at others that have had this rebuild their values are strong so hopefully I'll see a bit back.
You sure it’s the engine and not knackered water pump, idler pulley or blowing manifolds? If it is, easiest way out is put it on EBay as spares or repair as some home mechanic will buy and put in a 2nd hand engine. Parting out a car is hard work and there’s lots of junk to get rid off. Good luck
Bloody hell Will, that's left a hole in your wallet! Hopefully now, your motor is bullet proof. On your last vid you were going to find out if the previous owner would have known about the problems before selling you the car. What happened there? Regardless, get in it and enjoy. You probably now own the best 06 Boxster in the UK.
Hi Shaun thanks for watching. It's nothing that could have been foreseen so atleast i feel like i wasnt scammed. Just came down to luck of the draw I supppose. Realy happy with it now and planning to get some good miles on it.
Thanks for watching. All a lesson for me, I did look at a Z and might get one on the channel in the future. From what I've learned the gen 2 is a totaly new engine compared to teh gen 1.
Bore score is mainly due to bad injector washing the oil off the cylinder wall. Sample the oil, fuel in the oil is the 1st indicator. Run fuel injector cleaner often on DI cars.
I almost spat my coffee out at that bill! Well done for getting it done and at a reputable porshe specialist. You can enjoy it with more peace of mind now you've bought it up to standard. Will also give future owners more confidence if you sell down the road.
Thanks for watching Nick. This was exactly my thoughts. I would highly recomend AMS for any engine work:)
I spoke to
Angus for a full rebuild on a cayman s 987 quote was around 8k plus vat included 6 Niki liners too of course I can see why your bill is quite abit more as you’ve had other work done like clutch and some other stuff ?
Because I have a separate daily driver and decent sized driveway - I would have done the work on my own and invested the labor costs into my tool collection. Here I would have sourced the parts on my own and bought the following tools: quick jack to lift the car, an engine jack / holder to pull the engine and transmission out
Once the engine was out I would go to town updating old pipes and seals
this would take a bunch of time but I think its worth it for these cars, considering these items are why the values have dropped in these cars making them affordable (987.1)
Also next time I want to lift the car up and do suspension work, itll be much easier / cheaper with my new jacks
Damn that's an insanely good deal. Bet that would be like 30k at Porsche. Can't even get someone to install my coilovers for $2k 😅
Well done for digging deep and fixing it rather than breaking it for parts and getting another car. I do wonder what it would cost to get a relatively similar non-porsche engine rebuilt in a similar way, parts-wise I'm sure dealers and breakers take liberties just because of the badge.
Great and informative video. I think money well spent. Yup, they are expensive but best cars on the planet. My 997 just rocks.
That’s a great price! I just paid $29k US to rebuild my 996.2. I needed new cylinder liners so I went to 4.0l with forged piston rods. That added $7k to the build. You’re still getting a steal!
Thanks for watching. I Was trying to keep the costs low while still getting a proper job done. I see that Hartch in the uk offer a service to increase engine size but the costs are huge :)
ARE YOU INSANE ???
29000 to fix a 996 ???
For that price I can buy a 997 targa 2007r
or a Cayman S 2013
🤪🤪🤪🫥
A good decision to have the work done. Now you can enjoy it without the worries.👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks for watching Paul. Thats the plan. The car is too good to sell as spares.
@@willbehindthecamera I have. 2000 Boxster and I can understand why you preferred to repair that gem.
You had the car for three days before the failure? Google statutory rights on car sales.
At least now you have a sorted car. Big bill though!
Thank you so much for this superb information.. I keep toying with the idea of buying either a Boxster or a Cayman to replace my Abarth 124 spider but I keep seeing videos about problems and I don’t know if I’m as brave as you are to go through all this. now you’ve done all this work, you can really enjoy this superb car.👍
Thanks for watching Peter. I love the abarth. I would probably get a boxster from a dealer with a warrentee or even buy one that has had a rebuild done. AMS had some for sale last time i was there. May be worth looking at. Be careful, Once you buy a Porsche there is no going back :)
@@willbehindthecamera very enjoyable to watch this kind of video, thank you. I think you might be right about buying one from a dealer, as long as it’s a good one. There are so few sports cars to choose from, maybe it’s time for a Porsche. I’ve only driven a 911 and it had a really impressive grown-up go-kart like feel. Thanks for the advice. 👍
New subscriber. That was very interesting. So about 3,800 pounds incl. VAT for labour. I'm always curious the decision factor that would make someone who was a competent home mechanic choose not trying doing it themselves. That 3,800 could buy a lot of the specialist tools needed. I guess it's the fantasy that YTube car mechanicing videos can lead one to dream that these jobs are straightforward. Until a part won't fit, or you break something when trying to dismantle it. Then the headaches begin ...
The upcharge for the crankshaft, IMS, and clutch seems a bit steep to me, especially considering the eBay price included VAT. Also, given the nature of the eBay rebuild, what are the chances you wouldn't need a crankshaft? I also have to say that the 6k quoted to additionally address bore scoring seems steep to me.
Obviously, this was a bitter pill to swallow. IMO, it makes a strong case for buying a car with a rebuild already done, because it tends not to add much to the purchase price. A car in need of such a rebuild is worth very little, and a car with bore scoring is arguably completely worthless.
Anyway, thank you for sharing this! And as I see it's now been a year since, I hope you have had no more problems, have no regrets, and have been able to fully enjoy the car!
In my day a full engine rebuild was new pistons and rods and of course everything you got done and maybe even cams.
Horrible start to your time with a boxster, good informative video, happier times ahead hopefully :)
Thanks Mate. Wasnt a great time but I try to look on the bright side of it. Ive realy joined the comunity as a result of the conversations I've had with other porsche club members. Without this I probably wouldnt have started a youtube channel. Hopefully adventures aren't too far off as spring is on the way.
I think you have been brave in not including new cylinders in the rebuild, Hope that does not come back and bite you. There is only one engine builder I would have sent your car off to and that would have been Hartech. Their reputation for these Gen 1 engine rebuilds, and there total solution in relation to bore scoring is fantastic. I hope your builder told you to put some heat into the engine before giving it full beans (even after any breaking in period they have recommended). Its adds to longevity. Shame Porsche never put in a variable rev limiter like on the BMW M cars to avoid cold engine abuse.
Hi Anthony. Thanks for watching. With me not knowing what the cause of the engine failure was I needed it taking apart. From there Hartech is where it would have been sent if I decided to go with new cylinders. Definitly after running it in I am very careful with giving it time to warm up.
Defentley Hardwick but if you wear getting bore score it would have stated by now keep you radiator clean
Every car enthusiast knows not to drive a cold engine hard, not even enthusiast, everybody knows it, common sense fella.
So how much has been spent on the car completely including purchase and what is the market value of the car now?
That's not a bad cost for a rebuild.
Yeah after chatting with Angus at AMS I was able to get it done with budget in mind.
Yeah I was under the impression we're looking at 20k+
I added an extra £10k to my budget and bought the 987.2 base Cayman spec out with a cracking 2.9 engine, I would not change it for anything as it’s at home driving in London traffic. There are good deals to be had with the 2.7 Gen 1 if you live in an urban area with no intention to track your car but stretching to the 2.9 Gen 2 is fantastic especially if you drive all Cayman engine variants back to back. Well at a considerable cost you now have a well sorted Porsche Boxster. Just thinking out the box 📦 here for prospective buyers who perhaps narrow their options only to face a catastrophic repair bills. Enjoy your new build hopefully trouble free!
Gen 2 is much safer. Wouldn't buy a German without warranty
Useful to know, expensive, but, you know its done, you coukd buy another and have the same thing, im toying with buying one with a blown engine n starting again.....but easy to say from the armchair of course.....well done for persevering!
Thanks for watching Chris. Looking back, a good way to buy would be buy a broken one and have it rebuilt, or find one that has had the rebuilt.
Was there any compensation from the person you bought the car from? Because I understand you bought it and it broke within the week.
Hi Will just stumbled upon your channel.
May I ask what was the mileage on your Boxster , and what sort of S/H did it have ?
Thanks
Vince.
Hi Vince thanks for watching. Im hopefully going to be getting more vids our asap. I bought this car on 70k with good service history by porsche specialists. The service a year before I bought it was done by weissach uk, who are some of the best in the game. Still a bit of a mystery how the engine failed. But its been running well now that the guys at AMS have rebuilt it.
@@willbehindthecamera
Hi Will thanks for your reply, and good news on the Porsche, you deserve it !!
I’m just about to purchase a gen 2 Boxster and really looking forward to it. 👍
That bill is mental. 😂. How much did you pay for the car anyway? I suppose paying that makes sense if you’re gonna keep it for a while - & to be fair you could probably sell & get most of your money back. Just wondering in my case if it’s worth it - if I realise it would need that much money to put it right. Do you think most of the stuff was neccesary/or more just replacing to be safe?
Thanks for watching Harrison. I paid 12 for the car, so it is still cheaper than a newer 140i or golf R, these were cars I thought of before buying this. I think I'll hold onto this one now as I know its been sorted. Looking at others that have had this rebuild their values are strong so hopefully I'll see a bit back.
20% tax, time for a tea party.
I was quoted like $8,000 for a rebuild for my ‘85 Alfa Romeo.
my engines long gone, sounds like a metal basket slapping onto railings while idling, thinking of parting it out as i have very rare options
Sorry to hear that Jaden. If you are in the uk I'd highly recomend AMS. What options do you have that stand out?
You sure it’s the engine and not knackered water pump, idler pulley or blowing manifolds? If it is, easiest way out is put it on EBay as spares or repair as some home mechanic will buy and put in a 2nd hand engine. Parting out a car is hard work and there’s lots of junk to get rid off. Good luck
Sounds like it might be worth doing the IMS bearing prematurely.
IMS is rarely a problem on cards having survived so far
In my mind I would have rather spent the added money for rebuild + purchase costs,on a newer,lower mileage ,example.
Thanks for watching TJ. It is a good idea. Potentially buy the cheapest high mileage car and budget for a rebuild.
2½ weeks is very reasonable for engine rebuild
Bloody hell Will, that's left a hole in your wallet! Hopefully now, your motor is bullet proof. On your last vid you were going to find out if the previous owner would have known about the problems before selling you the car. What happened there? Regardless, get in it and enjoy. You probably now own the best 06 Boxster in the UK.
Hi Shaun thanks for watching. It's nothing that could have been foreseen so atleast i feel like i wasnt scammed. Just came down to luck of the draw I supppose. Realy happy with it now and planning to get some good miles on it.
Porsche not Porsh
Allow....rather get a Gen 2. Would never happen with a Nissan Z
Thanks for watching. All a lesson for me, I did look at a Z and might get one on the channel in the future. From what I've learned the gen 2 is a totaly new engine compared to teh gen 1.