Kediss Malcome cEDH deck tech with Dan

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  • Опубліковано 2 лис 2024

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  • @kappan7576
    @kappan7576 3 роки тому +27

    I actually built a very low budget version of this for a challenge I had with friends. The sheer amount of redundancy and combo lines is just amazing

    • @Iam4lpha
      @Iam4lpha 2 роки тому +4

      any chance u have a decklist?

    • @BisyBackson365
      @BisyBackson365 Рік тому +3

      A decklist would be very cool

  • @nikolaskohl4269
    @nikolaskohl4269 3 роки тому +13

    Such an awesome deck! Once they showed the commanders it was like a, oh...oh! moment. It's great that there's so much innovation in cEDH.

  • @ngbrother
    @ngbrother 3 роки тому +9

    Love this concept! A few thoughts about the list:
    * [[Urza's Saga]] seems like it would be great in here. Very low opportunity cost to include. With the number of artifacts you are making, Karn-structs seem quite good also. (Maybe cut Barbarian Ring?)
    * Did you consider running double strike instants and sorceries as rituals? ([[Assault Strobe]] is 1 mana for +3 treasures.)
    * [[Wings of Velis Veil]] seems like it would sometimes do good work as a removal spell via combat - as well as a type changer.
    * [[Pyre of Heros]] gives you some interesting pod lines - Dockside -> Buccaneer, 2-drop human -> Recruiter searches for for Buccaneer.
    * [[Unnatural Selection]] is another permanent type changer for repeatability
    Lots more thoughts - this deck needs a discord server!

    • @dannesca1526
      @dannesca1526 3 роки тому

      I can make one! I’ll post about it tomorrow when it’s made!

    • @mn6334
      @mn6334 3 роки тому +1

      Wings of Velis Vel and Unnatural Selection might deserve a little extra consideration because they can be Transmuted with Muddle the Mixture.

    • @NewSchoolPOKERstrat
      @NewSchoolPOKERstrat 2 роки тому +2

      My version uses Pyre and it’s pretty great. You can type change anything and pyre for whatever or just chuck the 2 drop ameboid changeling in the pyre himself and grab buc.
      This deck fuckin slaps at the budget cedh level.. I mean, honestly, I defy anyone to build a better budget cedh list at < $200.
      Kinnan maybe??
      Idk.. I think this partner pair is sick.

  •  3 роки тому +18

    I play Malcolm Kediss in PAUPER commander! Even against normal EDH I still win in 7-8 power lvl matches !!

    • @josehaya6362
      @josehaya6362 3 роки тому +3

      Can you share your list?

    • @mEatBucketSC
      @mEatBucketSC 3 роки тому

      Would love to see this list as well!

    • @Dany-em6xi
      @Dany-em6xi 3 роки тому

      If you could share the list it would be amazing!

  • @scabman1
    @scabman1 3 роки тому +3

    I'm always happy to see Kediss kicking ass! I've already made 3 Kediss decks and I may take a round at a high competive version of Kediss now with these 2!

  • @NewSchoolPOKERstrat
    @NewSchoolPOKERstrat 2 роки тому +3

    This is very very similar to a deck I recently built to gift to a friend.
    It’s $120 on moxfield and I built it for $100 on tcgplayer
    I call it “budget booty” and I think it is amongst the very strongest budget builds possible.
    Kinnan may be close but this “Budget Booty” deck is impossibly consistent and has amazing early mid and late games.
    I layered in pyre of heroes stuff and Magda w clock to go infinite and it just always has outs.
    It gets around the biggest problems w a budget deck by making its own fast mana and I highly recommend this pairing for anyone trying to get into cedh on a budget. At $500 I honest believe the deck could hang w some of the best budgetless decks in the format.
    This partner pair is busted

  • @Seltaeb_
    @Seltaeb_ 3 роки тому +2

    I've been theorizing this list for a scEDH meta since release! So glad to see someone actually build it!!

  • @azrirahmat1351
    @azrirahmat1351 3 роки тому +9

    Curiosity on a reckless fireweaver and slamming a dockside gaining 6 treasures for example. Will draw you 18 cards

    • @dannesca1526
      @dannesca1526 3 роки тому +4

      curiosity on fireweaver and attacking with malcolm (with kediss out) draws 9 every turn. its basically an instant win, giving you so much more card advantage and control than everyone else.

  • @pierrebuthaud7640
    @pierrebuthaud7640 3 роки тому +2

    I'm such a big fan of this deck, being so creative with almost never seen commanders is incredible in a format wich is usually the "decks/wincons"

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  3 роки тому

      I think you asked for it :) If I remember correctly.

    • @pierrebuthaud7640
      @pierrebuthaud7640 3 роки тому +1

      @@cedhtv that's... highly probable ! Thank you a lot for keeping up the great content !

  • @arturoesquivel6625
    @arturoesquivel6625 3 роки тому +4

    I play these commanders since release. It was supposed to be casual but it’s very strong. It’s basically a big mana izzet deck.

  • @tiredguy709
    @tiredguy709 3 роки тому +6

    I’ve been trying to build Malcolm Dargo for a while now but I just couldn’t generate the right board presence fast enough or consistently enough I never realized that just swinging Malcolm was the way to go

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  3 роки тому +2

      Who needs dargo when you have Malcom :P

    • @tiredguy709
      @tiredguy709 3 роки тому

      @@cedhtv people who play jeska in the 99 :P

  • @kstandish42
    @kstandish42 3 роки тому +3

    I love love love this deck and I love that it's giving our pirate pals some more attention!

  • @darkrayaccel
    @darkrayaccel 3 роки тому +3

    Saw it plenty on cockatrice, also malcom with the pirate that exiles the top cards.
    Its decent, can deff play with the big boys.

  • @lennyfacetd9078
    @lennyfacetd9078 3 роки тому +8

    Damn this deck seems sweet and is totally possible to run a functional budget version of it as so many cards are so cheap

    • @dannesca1526
      @dannesca1526 3 роки тому +6

      For sure! 90% of the cost is in like 5 cards 4 of which are lands or counter spells 😂 super easy to swap them out for more budget friendly variants

  • @project_swift
    @project_swift 3 роки тому +2

    I rate this deck!
    I have a 5 colour Pain Bear + Curiosity deck that wins in a similar way and it's so much fun.
    My decks Plan A. is to try and win through burn (for fun), with plan B being Glint Horn style combos.
    But I might actually swap to your deck as my one suffers to Wraths a whole lot due to being mostly creatures.

  • @gammarisktrader1681
    @gammarisktrader1681 Рік тому +1

    this deck aged well. the only additions you would add to it would be 1) the one ring 2) an offer you can't refuse and maybe fabricate or whir of invention to fetch the one ring

  • @diegopicchetto5250
    @diegopicchetto5250 3 роки тому +2

    I love this. I have an optimized Malcolm - Kraum deck that does very simmilar things and was actually meaning to change it into malcom - kedis. I don't own all of the fast mana and dont play to the highest of cEDH levels but even so it's the deck that can actually win in said games and does so by also having alternate combos or pure ping-grind.

    • @kevinconstantineau5321
      @kevinconstantineau5321 2 роки тому +1

      Would you mind linking me to a decklist? I'm playing a $100 version of Malcolm Kediss and was running into problems if Malcolm was removed before he connects for the first time. Another issue is not drawing into card advantage engines, although thats probably more my fault with my mulligans. For these reasons, I wanted to try Kraum instead of Kediss as a backup grind engine.
      Also, I'm assuming by now you have built and tried Kediss, how does it compare to Kraum?

    • @diegopicchetto5250
      @diegopicchetto5250 2 роки тому

      @@kevinconstantineau5321 I haven't uploaded or documented the decklist on any platform yet...
      It has seen several changes here and there, I came back to Kraum. It is much more explosive with Kediss but I prefer the flexibility with Kraum. One card I loved including recently is the Guild Artisan background in the 99. since both commanders have evasion, it allows for simmilar explosive turns, but also can help me grind and keep mana available sionce most of the deck is cmc 2, I can always cast any interaction I need.
      I tried running a few (3-4) "X" draw spells, it works well to compensate for when I haven't found a Rhystic or Remora, but it came with the hefty price of investing many of the treasures.
      I think the problem with malcolm is once peopke realize the value it can generate with kedis and the combo eith glinthorn bucaneer it will always be a target for removal, perhaps up the protection spells a little (either blinks, hexproof, counters or equippment) since you should be good enough with hitting just twice - netting 6 mana to re-cast without too much problem.
      If you want we could setup to check your list and talk ideas and options :D I'd be glad to help a fellow izzet player on a budget.

    • @kevinconstantineau5321
      @kevinconstantineau5321 2 роки тому

      ​@@diegopicchetto5250 I would appreciate that! Do you have a discord or something I can message you on?

  • @lammezak9109
    @lammezak9109 3 роки тому +1

    What a fun concept of a deck I play Malcolm bruse with kediss in the deck the little lizard gets underestimated allot in cedh good vid :)

  • @jean-paulpitman2172
    @jean-paulpitman2172 3 роки тому +1

    Most excellent creativity. Well done!

  • @SpriteDragon5
    @SpriteDragon5 3 роки тому

    I am also a brewer myself. I have a 11 year old daughter and built her a muxus deck. She has been consistently winning pods and events with the list. It is a very underestimated archtype. Love to shoot you the list so you can try it for your self . Love the content keep up the great work

  • @שחרשגב-מ4ק
    @שחרשגב-מ4ק 3 роки тому +2

    I love this, also looks like a better hackball momir. Also really hope to see some gameplay of this deck

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  3 роки тому +1

      I have some gameplay uploaded here with it actually. It was in my first guess the game play winner. ua-cam.com/video/-FmugCc_2KM/v-deo.html here you can see it shine.

  • @nonlinear3084
    @nonlinear3084 3 роки тому +2

    I like how this is playing into your last video about being surprising

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  3 роки тому

      The current deck techs are definitely part of that video and concept currently.

  • @starnesnj97
    @starnesnj97 Рік тому

    This has been my go to deck ever since watching this video. Plays through stax so we’ll and has enough counters to slow down turbo decks. I can’t tell you the amount of times I have the win on board and throw a glint horn out to be a sacrificial lamb.

  • @kylejohnson4662
    @kylejohnson4662 3 роки тому +1

    Izzet Turn and Burn in cEDH. Seems super sweet!

  • @groundswelllegitcoffeeandb3810
    @groundswelllegitcoffeeandb3810 2 місяці тому +1

    I have a card that could play well with this deck… dragon mantle!
    One red mana Etb draw then gives creature fire breathing! With both commanders out, and if you have enough treasures you can hit the table for lethal!
    This may have to be an include into a casual version of this deck!

  • @grantmcgregor2441
    @grantmcgregor2441 3 роки тому +1

    Doesn't Phyrexian Metamorph make a lot of sense in this deck? It combos with Fireweaver and can act as a second arcane adaptation. Not to mention a slightly slower Phantasmal image for Dockside double up.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  3 роки тому

      I do agree with you. I think they should be kinda in there.

  • @kennyg808
    @kennyg808 2 роки тому +3

    I’m in a strict budget league of $30/50/70 and picked Breeches as my second commander for removal bait and longevity. Would you have done this or stick with Kediss? They are already going to nuke Malcolm if this helps.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  2 роки тому

      If they keep killing Malcome you should definatly play Breeches instead.

  • @zaqwsx41375
    @zaqwsx41375 3 роки тому +2

    Great Idea!

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  3 роки тому

      It is right :)

  • @dhov760
    @dhov760 3 роки тому

    Wouldn’t Crystal Vein be a good addition to the mana base allows for a turn 2 Malcolm.

  • @dannesca1526
    @dannesca1526 3 роки тому +2

    Hey I recognize that guy 😂😂 if anyone has any questions about the deck feel free comment them and mons and I will answer as best we can!!!!

    • @quentonmcclure8233
      @quentonmcclure8233 3 роки тому +2

      I actually really like this concept for a cedh deck. No one expects it to be as strong as it actually is. Good to see a fellow brewer coming up with unique decks. I think my favorite sleeper deck ive made is minsc, beloved ranger. Consistent turn 3-4 wins with protection

    • @dannesca1526
      @dannesca1526 3 роки тому

      @@quentonmcclure8233 minsc is sweet! I love how he gives an unused colour combination a super viable combo outlet in the command zone!

    • @quentonmcclure8233
      @quentonmcclure8233 3 роки тому +1

      @@dannesca1526 Im glad you agree. It is a hulk deck. The line came to me in a fever dream while at work

    • @dannesca1526
      @dannesca1526 3 роки тому

      @@quentonmcclure8233 love it!!! I was working on a minsc brew but got distracted when I discovered grist. But I love to see some attention being given to minsc

    • @LotusAzurai
      @LotusAzurai 3 роки тому +1

      I see intuition in the deck what’s the pile you tend to go for is there a best 3 or is it just in there for situational plays

  • @mandielyn0416
    @mandielyn0416 3 роки тому +3

    Game play video Mons. Please! This is spice.

  • @revelmonger
    @revelmonger 3 роки тому +1

    This deck is HUGE in pauper cEDH.
    Sadly, type change cards are not legal, but the grind game is amazing.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  3 роки тому +1

      Oh that is right they are both common. I have played some competitive pauper games but never seen it. But I can see it being really good.

    • @revelmonger
      @revelmonger 3 роки тому

      @@cedhtv I'm my opinion it's the best deck. Better than tatyova even.

  • @kelvinmendez7013
    @kelvinmendez7013 2 роки тому +1

    I use this deck but with full basic lands and using cards like blood moon, magus moon, winter orb and back to basics

  • @mckfencer
    @mckfencer 3 роки тому +2

    I noticed an Isochron Scepter in the list, but no Dramatic Reversal. Is it just a value scepter?

    • @azrirahmat1351
      @azrirahmat1351 3 роки тому +2

      Prolly a bounce spell will be imprinted. to bounce rule of law effects or a enchantments

    • @dannesca1526
      @dannesca1526 3 роки тому +1

      Yea honestly its mostly just for imprinting a counter spell or bounce spell to help deal with longer grindier games.

    • @dochurt7189
      @dochurt7189 3 роки тому

      @@dannesca1526 Malcolm/Kediss is my frontrunner since legends and your brew is what really inspired me to make the next step.. thank you very much
      Just my 5 cent, i use sigil of sleep for bouncing and an early one on Malcolm wreaks havoc on the table..

  • @FernandoRojas-py6fn
    @FernandoRojas-py6fn 3 роки тому +1

    you should try kediss/keleth boros aggro deck. its very underrated, and most of the people doenst see coming.

  • @nicklondon7739
    @nicklondon7739 Рік тому +1

    What music is playing throughout this video? its very calming!

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  Рік тому +1

      Good question I actually don't remember. I forgot its name.

  • @kalem1527
    @kalem1527 3 роки тому +1

    Super cool deck!

  • @crovax1375
    @crovax1375 3 роки тому +1

    Does anyone else think that Prosper could be a cEDH storm commander?

  • @tomneilson9501
    @tomneilson9501 3 роки тому +1

    Seeing Arcane Adaptation in a cEDH decklist is baffling
    Not in a bad way, just that card seems to weak for casual EDH and yet some madman will find ways to break anything you put near them

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  3 роки тому +1

      some people just shoulden't be allowed to touch cards. They break them. And make them busted.

  • @dave_8600
    @dave_8600 3 роки тому +1

    Damn I've been working on tymna + kediss, this looks like a great kediss deck too.

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  3 роки тому

      that is cute. I think tymna jeska is better but definatly the cutest mardu deck :)

    • @dave_8600
      @dave_8600 3 роки тому

      @@cedhtv jeska is def stronger, I'm trying to meme the hatred combo into reality

    • @reesemarino6008
      @reesemarino6008 3 роки тому

      Careful kediss is not combat damage so tym will still only see one trigger off of herself

    • @dave_8600
      @dave_8600 3 роки тому

      @@reesemarino6008 i know, but the 6+ life always helps keep me floating before hatred mops up

  • @GeorgeBolas
    @GeorgeBolas 3 роки тому +1

    that's so cool!

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  3 роки тому

      cute and cool at the same time :)

  • @uphillwalrus5164
    @uphillwalrus5164 3 роки тому +1

    I've never seen an Izzet deck that isn't completely bizarre

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  3 роки тому

      Haha that is actually True!

  • @Jokerface21
    @Jokerface21 2 роки тому

    Over 10000$? Holy shit!

  • @denaxil9012
    @denaxil9012 Рік тому

    You should make an update for this deck :)

  • @sumeme9296
    @sumeme9296 3 роки тому +1

    Malcolm gang

  • @10Pugz
    @10Pugz 3 роки тому +1

    lol i build that deck yesterday for edh :D

    • @cedhtv
      @cedhtv  3 роки тому +1

      Should be kinda busted in normal casual. Just sit there and cast big stompy blue red creatures.

    • @10Pugz
      @10Pugz 3 роки тому

      @@cedhtv I dont know have to test it. I build it with a lot of teasure and counterspells and without fast mana or power nine or expansive stuf. I only wanted to build a controlldeck in edh XD

  • @Mewtwoisabeast
    @Mewtwoisabeast 3 роки тому +1

    i seen macolme i click that simple

  • @benbellum2618
    @benbellum2618 2 роки тому

    Decklist?

  • @DADDYonREALITY
    @DADDYonREALITY 5 місяців тому +1

    I've noticed not many Malcom kedriss decks arnt running aggravated assault lines with like Zorn/gold span from the list I've seen for it im the only one 🫣