They need it to keep their poor brains from overheating from all of the heat their metabolisms must be putting out. Especially Goku... and Naruto. (Seriously being a prison for a ball of hate and rage must burn through energy like no tomorrow)
Come to think of it that must be why super saiyan hair spikes up when they transform, and why Super Saiyan 3 has so much hair, extra cooling for their overclock lol XD
fun engineering school story; the final project for the intro engineering graphics course is building some kind of device to throw a tennis ball, the joke in my class was why not build a tennis racket monstrousity, and then somebody a couple years later did it and it worked reaally well
Imagine making an expensive itx build to order that as a main attraction. Come to think of it it would be a nice interior piece if you could put some rgb strips on the screw/tulip itself.
@@eivis13 Just think about how much space it would require though.... The only thing I could see it be used for is a lower end CPU cooler. On that note it would be really cool if they managed to figure out how to use all that surface area as a heatsink, just imagine a large copper heatsink fan.... Scratch that, that would be incredibly difficult.
@@wh0_am_152 possible but you would need to have some kind of floating contact from copper heatsink to a carbon based fan blade, light as possible but could still transfer huge amounts of heat... I am thinking graphene would be suitable
I'd like to see a custom shroud made for the Tulip fan, and retested. Then you could also retest your old design as well. Maybe put a velocity stack at the end of it?
@@MajorHardware can you review/unboxing/or do some other type of video, about the arctic p12? and compare it to the nf a12x25. The thing it´s incredibly good, almost as good as the a12x25, for 5 bucks the fan. For the price of a noctua you can get a value pack. It´s a very interesting fan to look at and review, and there´s a lot of interest about it. I´m not asking because i´m looking to buy them, im just curious about your perspective, cus you dig into things a lot.
Hey I know I am a bit late to the show, however The F1 is to reseble the Fan of the (in)famous Brabham BT46B. Designed by Gordan Murray and driven by Niki Lauda. This was meant to suck the car to the ground while going though fast corners. It was so effective that it was promptly deemed illegal :D Cheers mate, I love these vids!
you should redo all the fans in resin for smoother airflow, I think that may help some of the fans that did surprisingly bad if they depended on a smoother surface to flow on.
Shrouded? Hmmm... it might move air really efficiently. The conical surface of the blade tips help spread the vibration and reduce noise quite significantly.
This is what I was gonna say some kind of shroud that mounts the the fan housing so that it can pull air in without loosing any out the sides it would probably increase the amount of suction it could make too
It's kind of scary how I was thinking about different fans a few days back and now UA-cam recommends this to me. I didn't even Google anything regarding it, so it must be a coincidence, right? RIGHT?!
@Vi Coni if he didn't say anything then it probably is cause Google gets their advertising suggestions from mic and search inputs unless Google is working on a similar technology to the target baby detector
Something similar happened to me. My eye was itchy and no matter what I did it stayed like that and I didn't say anything or Google anything about it yet I got an ad about eye itch relief products. Scary
These production on these videos are increasing each episode! The addition of the quick summary screens, airflow test and accurate Db readings are great! Keep it up!
Wow this series has really been cool to see. What an original idea. The editing and overall design/aesthetic of everything has drastically improved over the course of a month. I could see a lot more people ordering or printing their own fan designs at home for their rig. Or maybe someone on this show will soon design a more efficient standard for a fan design, who knows? In any regard with how much these videos have improved over the last month I'd say this might be the thing that really blows this channel up. Keep at it, and thanks for the great content.
imagine if these fans were using the same materials as actual consumer grade products then im pretty sure they will outperform the best ones in the market
ya, I honestly wonder how the results would change if you made them to the same quality standard as the noctua fan. Because 3d printing is great but it leaves a lot of imperfections and imbalances within the item.
Or if this channel will collaborate with 3D bigger printing channels so they can make more of 1 fan (like at least 3 for each model but max of 10 depending of the "print quality possible") and also test for different heat outputs of 50W - 100W - 150W - 200W and maybe also 4x radiator test of : 2x thickness levels, and 2x radiator "mesh"(fins and tubes) density.
It is a really cool design, but the problem with this and many others is that they are close to Impossible to manufacture using injection molding. The only way would be to design it in multiple parts, or to use additive Manufacturing (3d printing).
I just love how professional your videos look, and the way you support your fans. Sometimes 3d printing and design videos can become quite complicated, but I am never in doubt when I see your videos! :))))
On the one that looks like a screw, reverse the center spiral so that it matches the direction of the outside, just 3x tighter than the outside so that it has more connection points, for the added stability that you get now. The counter rotating center spiral will shoot a column of air outward that is pulled from the base and just eventually start just recirculating a lot of it's own air
I wonder how that acceleron would do with whale fins on leading edges and vortex generators at the back. Also, I don't know if you tested that maybe if you could print out the Noctua design with the same materials to see how the material is affecting the results. Another idea I'm thinking of is just adding whale fin, vortex generator, and owl wing fins to the original design and compare. Best!
Considering the inperfections/loss of efficiency created by 3d printing itself, it might actually do quite bit better if manufactured the same way as the real noctua fans.
@@bloxyman22 Agreed - the thickness is a necessity due to the 3D printing method, but it means there's a fair bit of flat surface. Do the same design with thinner and more precisely manufactured blades, and you might get something interesting...
@@bloxyman22When he printed the default a12 it performed pretty much as well as the retail one, except sound wise. That leads me to believe that the print quality surprisingly doesn't have too big of an effect on performance. Still it'd be nice if he got a resin printer.
Love that someone thought of trying out a 3080 fan, but what I'm even more interested in is the second "pull" fan on that card. I'd love to see how the unusual shape and going in the other direction would affect the airflow.
I was going to say he designed it to go on the hub backwards but yeah that depends which one he was modeling. The fan on the back of the card looks similar but is like a backward incline draw through design. Definitely would be interested to see this in action to compare with the others!
About the Tulip: In an actual midi Tower desktop PC the Tulip would be very good as a blowout Fan in the top back of the case. Because its starts to guide the air far away from the exit, the airflow in the case becomes more oriented and thus more efficient. I have seen a few serverracks and industrial vents use similar pricipal fans. For a test to see what i mean you could just "drop" down the smoke at the tip of the tulip in your test stand and then "drop" smoke at the same distance from the radiator using the other fans and you should see the smoke disapear quicker with the tulip. For why its not widely used in actual tech is pretty easy to answer: It costs more to build for a very smal benefit and it takes up way more space and has a very high tendency to be imbalanced and cause vibrations and damage. I would love to the Tulip design build into a case but i guess the CPU heatexchanger will always be in the way
I was once involved in a project where we designed a better fan. We ended up doing a basic design in the end but I remember that one of the main things to contribute to better performance was the area of each blade. In that sense, Thomas design had a bit more advantage. The reason the tulip didn't perform better was most likely that it needs a cover to channel the air. Also I discovered that if the blades have "bumps" like humpback whale fins you can reduce noise with several percentages.
For the last episode you should recheck the top 5 against the noctua fan, especially if it is this close. Maybe take the winner of that and print a few more of them with slightly different print settings, maybe you can improve it even more.
I think it would be better to take the winning design and print it in resin, and then try to clone the design of the noctua and print it in resin too. That way there isnt any performance difference due to materials and textures.
I wonder how the tulip would do with a flared shroud coming up 1/3 from the base. I'm thinking of something to catch some of the air kicked out from near the base.
I have watched two videos of yours. The first one i watched was the one three months ago when you introduced the idea of the fan showdown, and now this one. During that first video, i was thinking of fan ideas, and my first idea was a lightning bolt bladed fan, almost identical to the one in this video that took first place. Gotta say, i’m impressed.
I don't know what's more ridiculous about this episode: the fact that Acceleron will possibly go into production or the fact that the fan that wasn't meant to work actually worked good!
Would be interesting to see a couple of them cooling a radiator in some sort of protective housing or frame. When I first saw it I thought it was going to be called Mermaid's Purse or something similar. (Shark egg)
Hi any chance to run the tulip with a duct to allow the airflow to be compressed further? It would be interesting if it reduces the sound as well. Thanks, great segment as usual.
I was just thinking about that. You'd end up with some crazy nonsense like those antennae designs that no electrical engineer understands how they work so well. You'd need a pretty robust fluid dynamics modeler, however, since genetic algorithms tend to be very good at finding bugs in physics simulations.
@C W Please use punctuation, I can't really parse that word salad, and so I have to assume you're just pushing pseudoscience buzzwords with nothing to back it up.
Better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Does "science" have all the answers? Of course not. Is it massively and fundamentally misinformed by some secret cabal? Not in basic mechanics and aerodynamics. Please head back to your padded room and slip into that extra-comfy sleeveless jacket with your name on it.
For now I'd be happy to see just one or two. I think the current No.1 and that fan with the extremely thin fan blades would be pretty good test subjects. It would be interesting to see just how much of a performance difference these would show, and how noisy they would be compared to the already tested fans.
What is the airflow through the radiator? The cone just need to be centered and could potentially blow more air to cool. The one with notches (Thomas) one more notch would really be good and bring the noise down.
i wonder what would happen if you took the tulip design, but made it level with the other fans? like just chopped off the top to make it sit flat with the others.
I've been watching every fan video since the first one and I have to say, these are quite entertaining. Also, first comment for the first time ever. Great vids!
@@stratometal I didn't binge, but I am always on the look out for these videos. Btw, I think the #1 fan could come close to the noctua he is trying to beat if they smooth the surfaces of the blades alot more. Maybe that is what is holding back some great designs.
I believe there' lots of ways to improve the tulip design, by the smoke test you can see that quite a bit of the air is being thrown to the sides at the base so most of the air getting through is actually being fetched by the top.
The tulip looks like it needs a custom housing to work properly but might work fairly well. If you reverse the rotation you might get a decent concentrated jet of air
I love these vids- I hope Anon comes back with an improved design. I'd love to design a blade that both lifts air, to create a void- to pull smoke in' and -throw- what's caught. 😏 Can you put together a video of you dealing with common issues with User submitted parts? It would give a chance for you to address common issues.
Love 5th place, looks like a lily impeller inspiration. 1st is awesome, 30min and cause it looked cool😁love it! A lot of these designs would make great ducted fans for rc.
The F1 Fan is actually relating to the "Fan Car", which used this design of stationary aero surface to give the car more downforce. It was banned early on, as are most interesting innovations in the F1 world. A shame too, because a normal car with a giant fan on the back would be epic.
Search for Gordon Murray's new car (the designer of the original fan car and McLaren f1) it's not exactly "normal" but it is a road legal car. If you don't know all this already lol
@@klauserji Right, and in most ways what he said is correct. The actual 'fan wing' was stationary, but within the engine there is a real moving fan that blows air over the block to help cool it off. By passing some of that air out of the 'fan/wing' on the back of the car, you can produce way more downforce than normal. It's called the Fan Car because the additional pieces of 'rear wing' looked like a fan blade or turbine. It's similar to the look of an Electric Ducted Fan as well.
Hi I’m new to your channel and I really like your content! I just wanted to know if there is a place to try and printout the leaderboard fans? Like a leader board Thingiverse or a fan discord channel? I really want to print the tulip fan so I can have friends ask “What the heck is that!?” When they see my set up. Lol
This series is an amazing idea really, you should draw from different banks of designs after a set amount of time to let people who upload designs build on concepts discovered through iterations
We need a fan Christmas tree The top fan will be at the top of the tree The worst fan will be at the bottom or worse like multiple fans this is a great idea for the holiday please please do this this would be amazing nobody ever likes my comments anyways so I thought hell why not
Tombs Clawtooth Exactly what I came here to say, it’s a great design for a fan that doesn’t have a duct (for directional airflow) but it’s redundant on a PC fan frame.
I wonder if any made in Blender will show up yet? (I did mine using the .STL exporter. But perhaps the reference used was out of spec? - Not sure if I had the official one, as I used a Thingiverse search at the time.)
Hello, i've seen most of the videos about fans, have you thought grinding and smoothing the afeas of the fan's blades? maybe that's gonna change the resoults a bit.
Seriously, man, your face in the video still / thumbnail is so hilarious. Almost as hilarious as that "hmmmmm" face when you first saw and printed the Bruce/Dr. Evil fan 😆
I advice using the tulip on the other side, sucking the heat/smoke into a vortex since this build is used in industrial exhaust systems Also, reducing the height might help with the diggling and allowing the rotor to spin faster. And filling/reducing the empty space inside the fan will allow an more dense and faster air flow to be built.
The tulip design only needs an additional hook curve at the outside rim and a more inward tilt of the blades to create a funnel effect that maximizes intake
I suspect that the design did so well because usually the majority of the air would be pushed at the blade tip but this design essentially creates 2 blade tips on each blade so more air is pushed through the middle.
The tulip could have some nice characteristics if its paired with a tight fitting funnel and has its direction inversed. The narrowing of the end would possibly help speed up the air and create a nice jet effect.
What I learned: Anime hair is designed that way to keep the characters' heads cool.
All the spikes and whatnot, all that surface area, heatsinks for their head lol.
Kakashi
Lol
Expecially yami yugi 😆
They need it to keep their poor brains from overheating from all of the heat their metabolisms must be putting out. Especially Goku... and Naruto. (Seriously being a prison for a ball of hate and rage must burn through energy like no tomorrow)
Come to think of it that must be why super saiyan hair spikes up when they transform, and why Super Saiyan 3 has so much hair, extra cooling for their overclock lol XD
"Grandpa why do all fans and corkscrews have lightning bolt blades?"
"Well, funny enough it started out as a joke..."
fun engineering school story; the final project for the intro engineering graphics course is building some kind of device to throw a tennis ball, the joke in my class was why not build a tennis racket monstrousity, and then somebody a couple years later did it and it worked reaally well
Pika pika...
...
Pikachuuuuuu
Print that Acceleron in resin, it should be smoother and perform better
Yeah since it is closest to beating the Noctua, you now have a good candidate to tweak and go head to head!
Came here to say that. Up you go
@@802Garage bro first I see you on tiktok, now your on the same videos I see on UA-cam? Can't wait to see that v10 subie run
@@dylandavis934 Hahaha thank you! I really am everywhere. 😬
802 Garage Love the V10 Impreza build man! Keep it up!
Plot twist, hes just blowing fat clouds into the fans for every test
Le nicotine overdose has arrived
@@toastedphantom3007 New line of vapes by Nictua
Lmao...we get it, he vapes 🤣
@@duronboy2 * N I C T U A *
@@cerebralm 50 nic?
Imagine if noctua started producing the tulip design now.
Imagine making an expensive itx build to order that as a main attraction. Come to think of it it would be a nice interior piece if you could put some rgb strips on the screw/tulip itself.
@@eivis13 Just think about how much space it would require though.... The only thing I could see it be used for is a lower end CPU cooler. On that note it would be really cool if they managed to figure out how to use all that surface area as a heatsink, just imagine a large copper heatsink fan.... Scratch that, that would be incredibly difficult.
A couple of those would look awesome as in the bottom of a case.
@@wh0_am_152 possible but you would need to have some kind of floating contact from copper heatsink to a carbon based fan blade, light as possible but could still transfer huge amounts of heat... I am thinking graphene would be suitable
@@BigIdds Look up Sandia coolers, pretty cool how they do it. I think thermaltake last tried to release an actual project called the engine 27.
I'd like to see a custom shroud made for the Tulip fan, and retested. Then you could also retest your old design as well. Maybe put a velocity stack at the end of it?
Also, maybe put a bearing on the small end too
The format and editing for this series has gotten much better. I love seeing all these designs.
its super interesting to see what people come up with
@@MajorHardware can you review/unboxing/or do some other type of video, about the arctic p12? and compare it to the nf a12x25. The thing it´s incredibly good, almost as good as the a12x25, for 5 bucks the fan. For the price of a noctua you can get a value pack. It´s a very interesting fan to look at and review, and there´s a lot of interest about it. I´m not asking because i´m looking to buy them, im just curious about your perspective, cus you dig into things a lot.
@@ZexMaxwell The Arctic P12 is a good fan for a very reasonable price. Your purchase was definitely worth it.
*Prints Tulip*
"Were running out of PLA"
me: *Shocked Pikachu Face*
That's the greatest argument against the Tulip. It's extra material cost, and need for a special shroud to increase efficiency.
@@hariman7727 Screw costs!! All HAIL THE DRILL
(About the F1 fan) 2:35 "...I think Dave is on the right track"
I see what you did there
F1 fan made the F1 fan.
@@user-kk4bq7mb8u 😂😂✌🏻
Hey I know I am a bit late to the show, however
The F1 is to reseble the Fan of the (in)famous Brabham BT46B. Designed by Gordan Murray and driven by Niki Lauda.
This was meant to suck the car to the ground while going though fast corners. It was so effective that it was promptly deemed illegal :D
Cheers mate, I love these vids!
you should redo all the fans in resin for smoother airflow, I think that may help some of the fans that did surprisingly bad if they depended on a smoother surface to flow on.
I'm pretty sure the ones that did really bad would need more than better surfaces
what about sanding them with fine grade paper? get rid of any imperfections to a smooth look
Exactly what I was gonna say
@@SonOfTamriel or acetone smoothing. Some parts of these fans would be hard to get to with sandpaper
@@ChaosPootato im talking about the ones that had a good concept but you could see the 3d print did not come out good
Imagine that tulip on a tower cpu cooler in white, lit up with rgb
Thomas is clearly one of those bored inventors that sees what he can get away with and ends up making something actually good.
we need more people to think outside the box like that. It's how invention and progress happen.
he's more like a copycat !!!
It would be cool to see a Lily Impeller considering how well the "tulip" performed. Integza made a video on how efficiently that design performs.
That was my thought as well.. thumbnail - hey, that looks like Integza's lily impeller.
Kill the tomatoes
I think they use something like this in water jets.
Jet skis.
Er, nope.
No they don't.
Still, I wonder how well it'd move water.
The “anonymous” fan is basically the same thing as a water turbine. It really needs to be placed in a housing and used as an intake fan.
Shrouded? Hmmm... it might move air really efficiently. The conical surface of the blade tips help spread the vibration and reduce noise quite significantly.
Clear shroud with strobing led perhaps
Yes. It needs ducting!
KJames Jr I think they got inspiration from the gold ratio tulip by integza
This is what I was gonna say some kind of shroud that mounts the the fan housing so that it can pull air in without loosing any out the sides it would probably increase the amount of suction it could make too
It's kind of scary how I was thinking about different fans a few days back and now UA-cam recommends this to me. I didn't even Google anything regarding it, so it must be a coincidence, right? RIGHT?!
@Vi Coni if he didn't say anything then it probably is cause Google gets their advertising suggestions from mic and search inputs unless Google is working on a similar technology to the target baby detector
Something similar happened to me. My eye was itchy and no matter what I did it stayed like that and I didn't say anything or Google anything about it yet I got an ad about eye itch relief products. Scary
Thomas' Acceleron fan looks like the blades are made out of Pikachu tails! :D
PIKA THUNDER
It's a Harry Potter fan!
I was getting "The Flash" vibes from it.
@@honestlyreed1612 "You're a fan Harry" x)
@@MajorHardware Pikachu use iron tail
I did not expect OnlyFans to be like this, I am not disappointed
@@FixingWithFriends yes
@@ariesleo7396 no
i'd kind of like to see the tulip developed a little more. i bet it could be optimized.
yea, i'd imagine if it was scaled down a bit, the concept would still help funneling around the center
These production on these videos are increasing each episode! The addition of the quick summary screens, airflow test and accurate Db readings are great! Keep it up!
I wasn’t expecting anonymous to reach 5th but that fan sure looked satisfying
Dude 4 more likes and we have 400! thanks guys
I have to wonder how it would have done if it had printed perfectly centered
Wonder how it would work if there were 35 to 45 degree tips on each blade to force more air toward the center
Cjbarker2 yeah it didn’t look true to the centre did it
@@Cjbarker2 put it into the resin printer ! should be better quality
We must refine the design!
Wow this series has really been cool to see. What an original idea. The editing and overall design/aesthetic of everything has drastically improved over the course of a month. I could see a lot more people ordering or printing their own fan designs at home for their rig. Or maybe someone on this show will soon design a more efficient standard for a fan design, who knows? In any regard with how much these videos have improved over the last month I'd say this might be the thing that really blows this channel up. Keep at it, and thanks for the great content.
imagine if these fans were using the same materials as actual consumer grade products then im pretty sure they will outperform the best ones in the market
ya, I honestly wonder how the results would change if you made them to the same quality standard as the noctua fan. Because 3d printing is great but it leaves a lot of imperfections and imbalances within the item.
Or if this channel will collaborate with 3D bigger printing channels so they can make more of 1 fan (like at least 3 for each model but max of 10 depending of the "print quality possible") and also test for different heat outputs of 50W - 100W - 150W - 200W and maybe also 4x radiator test of : 2x thickness levels, and 2x radiator "mesh"(fins and tubes) density.
An easier way to compare would be to just 3D print the nactura design. Then they all have the same limitations.
@@Jeff-fc7nf I swear that's what he did before he turned this into a series.
@@Jeff-fc7nf good idea
Where we can found download STL file of these fans, @Vaetheon (Thomas) s Acceleron and Tulip fan which made by Anonymous?
Id like to see you make a video at some point of all the outrageous fans you have gotten and decided not to print (viewed on software)
I don’t understand why but I can’t help but watch every one of these fan showdowns lol
I think Thomas' design should be used more! It looks sick compared to most fans nowadays, and functions well.
It is a really cool design, but the problem with this and many others is that they are close to Impossible to manufacture using injection molding. The only way would be to design it in multiple parts, or to use additive Manufacturing (3d printing).
It's like the Viktor Schauberger impeller. Integza did a video on it.
I just love how professional your videos look, and the way you support your fans. Sometimes 3d printing and design videos can become quite complicated, but I am never in doubt when I see your videos! :))))
If that fan from Anonymous gets bumped off the board, it needs to go in a "Hall of Surprising Excellence"!
This is turning into awesomeness! Some of these creations are mindblowing, especially when they WORK!
There are so many more waiting to have a go
On the one that looks like a screw, reverse the center spiral so that it matches the direction of the outside, just 3x tighter than the outside so that it has more connection points, for the added stability that you get now. The counter rotating center spiral will shoot a column of air outward that is pulled from the base and just eventually start just recirculating a lot of it's own air
My solution was making the inside sold but yours is a better solution.
🔵 If it was rebreathing a substantial percentage of its own air, that's certainly going to lower its efficiency for cooling!
Wow the Acceleron is amazing! Really cool lightning bolt design. Some tweaks to that and it could actually be a new an important design.
Love this series, and the community ideas that are being brought to life.
I wonder how that acceleron would do with whale fins on leading edges and vortex generators at the back.
Also, I don't know if you tested that maybe if you could print out the Noctua design with the same materials to see how the material is affecting the results.
Another idea I'm thinking of is just adding whale fin, vortex generator, and owl wing fins to the original design and compare.
Best!
I wonder if you'll get any input from noctua.
this weeks winner is surely cutting it close
Yeah and it also looks super cool 😎 👌
Considering the inperfections/loss of efficiency created by 3d printing itself, it might actually do quite bit better if manufactured the same way as the real noctua fans.
@@bloxyman22 Agreed - the thickness is a necessity due to the 3D printing method, but it means there's a fair bit of flat surface. Do the same design with thinner and more precisely manufactured blades, and you might get something interesting...
@@bloxyman22When he printed the default a12 it performed pretty much as well as the retail one, except sound wise. That leads me to believe that the print quality surprisingly doesn't have too big of an effect on performance. Still it'd be nice if he got a resin printer.
@@z3dar he has a resin printer
I think the Tulip is really interesting! Instead of pushing air through a radiator it seems ideal as an exhaust fan for the case.
Love that someone thought of trying out a 3080 fan, but what I'm even more interested in is the second "pull" fan on that card. I'd love to see how the unusual shape and going in the other direction would affect the airflow.
I was going to say he designed it to go on the hub backwards but yeah that depends which one he was modeling. The fan on the back of the card looks similar but is like a backward incline draw through design. Definitely would be interested to see this in action to compare with the others!
About the Tulip:
In an actual midi Tower desktop PC the Tulip would be very good as a blowout Fan in the top back of the case. Because its starts to guide the air far away from the exit, the airflow in the case becomes more oriented and thus more efficient. I have seen a few serverracks and industrial vents use similar pricipal fans.
For a test to see what i mean you could just "drop" down the smoke at the tip of the tulip in your test stand and then "drop" smoke at the same distance from the radiator using the other fans and you should see the smoke disapear quicker with the tulip. For why its not widely used in actual tech is pretty easy to answer:
It costs more to build for a very smal benefit and it takes up way more space and has a very high tendency to be imbalanced and cause vibrations and damage.
I would love to the Tulip design build into a case but i guess the CPU heatexchanger will always be in the way
I sure am a fan of fans, and a fan of fan fans, and a fan of better fan fans.
I was once involved in a project where we designed a better fan. We ended up doing a basic design in the end but I remember that one of the main things to contribute to better performance was the area of each blade. In that sense, Thomas design had a bit more advantage. The reason the tulip didn't perform better was most likely that it needs a cover to channel the air. Also I discovered that if the blades have "bumps" like humpback whale fins you can reduce noise with several percentages.
Who ever made the tulip I want to thank you because I wanted to make something like it but I cant because i dont have a computer.
Can we get the plans for that fan that thomas made? The acceleron? I would love to replace some of my old fan blades with that...
But how do we know that you're not just an undercover Noctua employee that tries to steal the design for the company?!
@@paderborner5213 just lul, i don't even know wth nocta is. I assume they make fans for cases or something?
For the last episode you should recheck the top 5 against the noctua fan, especially if it is this close. Maybe take the winner of that and print a few more of them with slightly different print settings, maybe you can improve it even more.
I think it would be better to take the winning design and print it in resin, and then try to clone the design of the noctua and print it in resin too. That way there isnt any performance difference due to materials and textures.
I wonder how the tulip would do with a flared shroud coming up 1/3 from the base. I'm thinking of something to catch some of the air kicked out from near the base.
It actually makes sense, more surface area for the blades means more lift, and more airflow... Hope the one I sent in makes the cut!
Also more drag but it's no head on cutting edge it's fine aparently
I have watched two videos of yours. The first one i watched was the one three months ago when you introduced the idea of the fan showdown, and now this one. During that first video, i was thinking of fan ideas, and my first idea was a lightning bolt bladed fan, almost identical to the one in this video that took first place. Gotta say, i’m impressed.
Amazing!
How does the new Nr.1 compare with the original in noise?
Really digging the way this format is evolving! Best episode of the series yet! Keep up the awesome work!
Damm that beyblade fan was pretty impressive 😮❤️
And he let it rip 🥏
I am so stoked to watch this series more and more; I had no idea how much a fan designing competition would pique my interest 😁✌️
I so wanted that dragon dildo tulip design to win ;-;
Oh gosh. Rick and Morty dragons... can't unsee
The _what_
@@hardrivethrutown google 'bad dragon' at your own risk
Bull shark egg
@@callsignapollo_ you should say that to me. SHOOOOOO-
The Tulip fan was really innovative! I think it could be the start of something new!
The 750 Ti Lightning Wishes it Had The Accerelon. In yellow. Beauty for flair
"given it was just meant to be a meme"
good god the definition of this word has been destroyed over the years.
This series is amazing and I love it.
I don't know what's more ridiculous about this episode: the fact that Acceleron will possibly go into production or the fact that the fan that wasn't meant to work actually worked good!
Play with the pitch of the tulips fan blades. Seriously, I bet there is untapped potential.
Would be interesting to see a couple of them cooling a radiator in some sort of protective housing or frame.
When I first saw it I thought it was going to be called Mermaid's Purse or something similar. (Shark egg)
Altering the internal support structure of the Tulip might also work too.
Hi any chance to run the tulip with a duct to allow the airflow to be compressed further? It would be interesting if it reduces the sound as well. Thanks, great segment as usual.
I am still waiting for someone to use AI and create *THE* perfect fan.
I was just thinking about that. You'd end up with some crazy nonsense like those antennae designs that no electrical engineer understands how they work so well. You'd need a pretty robust fluid dynamics modeler, however, since genetic algorithms tend to be very good at finding bugs in physics simulations.
@@timh.6872 Those Antennaes are awesome, that's one of the things that brought machine learning to my attention a few years back
@C W Not every logarithmic spiral is a golden spiral and the Fibonacci spiral isn't even a logarithmic spiral, being formed from segments of circles.
@C W Please use punctuation, I can't really parse that word salad, and so I have to assume you're just pushing pseudoscience buzzwords with nothing to back it up.
Better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Does "science" have all the answers? Of course not. Is it massively and fundamentally misinformed by some secret cabal? Not in basic mechanics and aerodynamics.
Please head back to your padded room and slip into that extra-comfy sleeveless jacket with your name on it.
i love this community that you have brought together thank you for your time from dallas texas.
Excited to see some resin prints of these fans!
For now I'd be happy to see just one or two. I think the current No.1 and that fan with the extremely thin fan blades would be pretty good test subjects. It would be interesting to see just how much of a performance difference these would show, and how noisy they would be compared to the already tested fans.
Brought here from UA-cam's algorithm (front page). This is an awesome idea for a competition. Keep it up.
now I really wanna see this weeks winner's fan produced with professional tools and whatnot :O
What is the airflow through the radiator? The cone just need to be centered and could potentially blow more air to cool. The one with notches (Thomas) one more notch would really be good and bring the noise down.
I want to see the tulip reversed to a pull configuration >.>
i wonder what would happen if you took the tulip design, but made it level with the other fans? like just chopped off the top to make it sit flat with the others.
I've been watching every fan video since the first one and I have to say, these are quite entertaining. Also, first comment for the first time ever. Great vids!
The moment I saw this series "fan competition" I had to binge it.
@@stratometal I didn't binge, but I am always on the look out for these videos. Btw, I think the #1 fan could come close to the noctua he is trying to beat if they smooth the surfaces of the blades alot more. Maybe that is what is holding back some great designs.
I believe there' lots of ways to improve the tulip design, by the smoke test you can see that quite a bit of the air is being thrown to the sides at the base so most of the air getting through is actually being fetched by the top.
those are some pretty cool fans you've got there-
I see what you did there, Earth-rin.
The tulip looks like it needs a custom housing to work properly but might work fairly well. If you reverse the rotation you might get a decent concentrated jet of air
I love these vids-
I hope Anon comes back with an improved design.
I'd love to design a blade that both lifts air, to create a void- to pull smoke in' and -throw- what's caught.
😏
Can you put together a video of you dealing with common issues with User submitted parts? It would give a chance for you to address common issues.
Love 5th place, looks like a lily impeller inspiration. 1st is awesome, 30min and cause it looked cool😁love it! A lot of these designs would make great ducted fans for rc.
The F1 Fan is actually relating to the "Fan Car", which used this design of stationary aero surface to give the car more downforce. It was banned early on, as are most interesting innovations in the F1 world. A shame too, because a normal car with a giant fan on the back would be epic.
Search for Gordon Murray's new car (the designer of the original fan car and McLaren f1) it's not exactly "normal" but it is a road legal car. If you don't know all this already lol
Its the Brabham BT46B for those interested.
But... he said the inspiration is F1 'Rear Wing'... not 'fan'...
@@klauserji Right, and in most ways what he said is correct. The actual 'fan wing' was stationary, but within the engine there is a real moving fan that blows air over the block to help cool it off. By passing some of that air out of the 'fan/wing' on the back of the car, you can produce way more downforce than normal. It's called the Fan Car because the additional pieces of 'rear wing' looked like a fan blade or turbine. It's similar to the look of an Electric Ducted Fan as well.
@@EnderMalcolm im not an avid F1 fan, but yea i know that car and other whacky F1 cars like 6 wheeled car and 2 chasis car.
I'd say the tulip disperses the smoke evenly seeing as it is barely seen behind the fan. Idea for a positive pressure fan?
Anonymous's fan is freaking wack and I LOVE how it was actually effective 😂.
It looks like something made by Bad Dragon
Hi I’m new to your channel and I really like your content! I just wanted to know if there is a place to try and printout the leaderboard fans? Like a leader board Thingiverse or a fan discord channel? I really want to print the tulip fan so I can have friends ask “What the heck is that!?” When they see my set up. Lol
*noctua*: take notes of this guys!
@Future President if a hobbyist with little to no experience is creating a simmilar performing design... 😏
This series is an amazing idea really, you should draw from different banks of designs after a set amount of time to let people who upload designs build on concepts discovered through iterations
We need a fan Christmas tree The top fan will be at the top of the tree The worst fan will be at the bottom or worse like multiple fans this is a great idea for the holiday please please do this this would be amazing nobody ever likes my comments anyways so I thought hell why not
Holy moly! Just when I thought I'd seen it all, yt pops up this little jewel :-) Definitely gonna watch more of this.
To future contestants, putting a ring on your fan reduces it's effectiveness.
@noxxi knox it's extra mass that's not helping to move the air, I'd guess.
ya, i think most of these should be printed without a ring and retested.
It's because it's already a ducted fan, adding another duct doesn't help. The frame is a duct.
Tombs Clawtooth Exactly what I came here to say, it’s a great design for a fan that doesn’t have a duct (for directional airflow) but it’s redundant on a PC fan frame.
I wonder if any made in Blender will show up yet? (I did mine using the .STL exporter. But perhaps the reference used was out of spec? - Not sure if I had the official one, as I used a Thingiverse search at the time.)
Notification gang where you at!?
Hello, i've seen most of the videos about fans, have you thought grinding and smoothing the afeas of the fan's blades? maybe that's gonna change the resoults a bit.
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I want to have his onlyfans *pud dun ching*
Hahah
yeah yeah, blow it out your arse
Why!? Why is this series so enjoyable? I don't even care about cpu fans... or cpus! Or 3d printing!! Aaargh!!! So awesome!!!
That rtx 3080 fan is actually reversed, it should be spinning the other way.
the curvature is reversed too
I wonder if it’s not having an outer ring or the double-back design that made the 1st place fan perform so well.
I'm not first, but I'm here
me tooooooo
@@MajorHardware me 130
I'm curious if the Tulip fan would work better in a pull configuration.
The tulip design may be backwards, since most tulip impellers the wider flange is where it's pulling in, there narrower point is where it's pushing.
Seriously, man, your face in the video still / thumbnail is so hilarious. Almost as hilarious as that "hmmmmm" face when you first saw and printed the Bruce/Dr. Evil fan 😆
I advice using the tulip on the other side, sucking the heat/smoke into a vortex since this build is used in industrial exhaust systems
Also, reducing the height might help with the diggling and allowing the rotor to spin faster.
And filling/reducing the empty space inside the fan will allow an more dense and faster air flow to be built.
The tulip design only needs an additional hook curve at the outside rim and a more inward tilt of the blades to create a funnel effect that maximizes intake
Have you 3D printed a noctua fan to test the efficiency loss from rough print surface? That may provide insight.
I suspect that the design did so well because usually the majority of the air would be pushed at the blade tip but this design essentially creates 2 blade tips on each blade so more air is pushed through the middle.
I have no idea what attracts me to this series so much but I really can't get enough of this shit. I'm gonna watch em all
The tulip could have some nice characteristics if its paired with a tight fitting funnel and has its direction inversed. The narrowing of the end would possibly help speed up the air and create a nice jet effect.
For "Anonymous" have you tried running it other way around, so that front faces backward and spinning it both clockwise and anti-clockwise ?