A SALTY Monster Hunter Rise Tier List
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I take SnS being so low as a personal insult, you're on thin ice mr scott
The legend arrives
We all knew you'd come here my liege
Oh God Oh No he’s here
Hehe hammer go bonk
Watch out Scott, You're talking a lot of shit about the Sword and Shield for someone in Fireball range.
You made this entire video to sing the hammer song and scream at the longsword, didn't you?
This is Scott, he absolutely did.
Not complaining Swagaxe in his mind is top tier
I mean, in World i would've done the same... I mained Hammer in 4U and World, and i hated the Longsword with all of my soul. But now i actually like to play HH too, bc it doesn't feel that clunky anymore
Exactly. _HAMMER GANG RISE UP_
Also to complain about people meta humping the Hunting Horn XD which I appreciate.
Scott: *Goes on 10 hour tirade about how much he hates the long sword with actual facts and logic behind his thoughts*
Also Scott: "Heehoo hammer go bonk"
what are you trying to get at? he perfectly summarized the hammer and the people who use it.
@@greypheonixgaming7403 I mean you are not wrong, I am simply laughing at the abrupt tone change
I mean, I agree with him for Both, And i am a LS Main. They made it too good...
I MEAN
Someone else: whats wrong?
MHRise player: i felt a great disturbance in the force, its like a thousand long sword users cried out in pain and were suddenly silenced as if they all shouted a collective fuuuuuuuuuccckkkkyoooouuu for some reason
I like hammer and longsword and hunting horn so I am confusion about this tierlist
@@thecyanpanda241 it’s because the long sword can mess up other peoples combos easily when they hit your teammates
@@ethanwhite3418 yea I know but the point is that I don't know whether or not I should be happy or triggered because I like both LS and Hammer
@@thecyanpanda241 at this point i dont really give an F on tierlist. 'Cause every weapon can be as equally annoying if used by wrong person.
@@laka4468 its just that ls has a lot of the wrong people...
So you see now why the Glaive is so popular. Whether bullying with the bug or playing “the floor is lava,” they’re safe from the long sword mains.
Precisely. Our glory days of World may be gone, but now we don’t have to deal with the bullshit.
Lol pretty much.
Demon mode dual blades also has built-in flinch free. We can basically ignore LS users, too.
Stopping a Diablos Charge with Buzzy Buzz is reallllly cool
@@RiotRabit we have the aspect he hated of the insect glaives as well, with the hop special attack beyblade move, so now the insect glaive is just useless lmao
I have never played Monster Hunter but it’s fun to see Scott yell at people who main a weapon
You really should pick it up. It's such a fun game if you don't mind grind
Damn. Same.
Same
Ditto
I concur.
I know there are 2 absolute truths of monster hunter. That hammer mains have a single communal brain cell they all share, which tells them to SMASH. And that we all love them for it. Keep smashing skulls, my wonderful, angry friends.
So do the longsword mains but they are hated for it...
Because they are actively harmful to the rest of the team and game balance
@@zockingtroller7788 longsword would be good if friendly fire didn't exist
@@PirateShux yes but then it has all upsides and no downsides making it even more op (but quite frankly I still prefer that to charging up a devastating attack only to get pushed away at the last second by some 5 year old asswank with a long sword, with an attack that is far weaker in every department than the one I was charging up)
@@zockingtroller7788 oh yeah true
@@zockingtroller7788 bkl
Scott: "Hunting Horn cant do damage"
The Hunting Horn having a 11000+ damage wake up hit in sunbreak: "HEAVY'S COMING FOR YOU"
In MH Rise, the horns bonk YOU
The robot waifu messiah has arrived!!!!
Hi Robo cat!
but the horn could always bonk couldn’t it? i mean not that well but it was just as much buff as bonk right?
@@tehwhaffle3088 currently horn out dps and knocks out monsters faster than hammer lol
My damage may be low, but with Stamina thief and Slugger level 3, these monsters are gonna be tired and bonked repeatedly. I love explaining to my 6 year old niece we gotta teach the mean monstie not to bite people with several thousand bonks on the noggin before tucking them into bed (ala trap)
Honestly the way that the sisters are animated are just perfect
KEK W BRO
Ara ara
Honestly the sisters are just perfect
They're missing the red eyeliner, but other than that they're perfect.
Yup!
As a Hammer main with the long sword as my secondary weapon, I can 100% confirm, that the Longsword is the most STUPIDLY overpowered weapon in the game.
I use either depending on if the monster is soft or hard
Hammer is the best. I took down my first big monster easily with it, and it is just fun to use.
Well… was is more apt, actually it got heavily nerfed in sunbreak to bring it more in line with other weapons. Motion values for Iai spirit slash was cut in half, Soaring kick also had its motion value reduced and its cooldown increased from 20 seconds to 30 seconds. On top of the increased challenge of Sunbreak monsters making it so playing it braindead will not save you
I know someone is going to say but it got a whole lot of other switch skills and to which i counter with. Yeah and so did every weapon in the game and each of their skills are good: Greatsword has Strong arm stance for instant TCS, Glaive got Awakened Kinsect attack for heavy damage, Hunting Horn got Sonic Bloom for support and damage
>Hunting horn has inflated damage values
>Hunting horn is lacking in DPS
what do you want from us, scott
HH is terrible in this, ryozo really simplified dumbing down monster hunter which is kinda sad for the sake of more and more low iq audience. HH being on single freaking note only, no encore, etc is disrespectful towards weapon origin from MH2 DOS on playstation 2.
He wasn't lying about this one, it's a very salty tier list lmao.
Don't stop animating the twins tho
Culture
the twins are love, the twins are life
I agree with the terms list though except for for the hammer part I would put it in b tier but I am a switch axe main
He's so confident as he spouts incorrect things rapid-fire. Lmao
@@popcorn82b that's the joke
Me: Plays Hunting Horn and Insect Glaive, former Longsword main
Watches video
*slowly backs away*
Insect glaive is lowkey insane
I was one of those people who went and thought airtime was best time after building meter
Then I got an assist kinset.
On the plus side, you're not longsword 😀
Insect glaive has been my main in rise due to the insane movement you get with evade extender. And I am someone who has mained the Hammer with Lance as a close second in 3, Gen, and World. But I've noticed the true damage comes from IG being grounded so I only do flips and shit to reposition like to get to the tail.
@@smeldernivenhoff7902 I use it mostly to attack places that are off the ground, as I typically play solo- which means that I have next to no support for hitting things far off the ground..
Of course, when I switched to SnS.. I learned just how awful going mostly aerial was
Me, a Lance main who is just happy that people still recognize my existence :D
I feel you my lance mate.
everytime i saw a lance main in world in usually auto kicked them they most of the time couldnt do alot of damage
@@flamingrubys11 Lance can deal a lot of Damage, but it’s not in big bursts like some of the other Weapons, it mainly deals its damage over the course of a Fight, low numbers but the point is that they have a consistent damage output, any time spent not attacking a Monster is time wasted on a Lance
Tldr; don’t kick Lances you dick
@@jaydenlobbe7911 my man i prefer having gunlance over regular lance lances have regular ass pokes and sometimes that wide swipe but thats it and maybe the train gunlance just was better lance
I like how Lance feels in this game. Even if it isn't great.
SF: "The Longsword is too easy to use. Bottom tier."
Also SF: "Ooga Booga weapon #1."
There is way more subtlety to the hammer than the long sword and that’s the point. When you are less subtle than the “unga bunga” weapon you have some serious issues.
@@OtioseFanatic I would actually disagree. Longsword has ease of play but a very high skill ceiling. Hammer does as well, but at the skill ceiling feels much lower. Longsword has a lot of different skills to react to specific different moments of time, which makes them more versatile but also more complicated; weapon sheathes, iajutsu, counters, etc. The Hammer has very little complexity by comparison. And I'm saying this as someone who mained Hammer way longer than Longsword.
There are a lot of reasons folks get annoyed with Longsword users, but "simplicity" doesn't feel like it should be one of them.
The thing is Hammer has weaknesses youll need to play arround
Longsword is simply an automatic win at this point, they made it so obscenely strong that it just takes the fun out of the game if you hunt with a longsword main in the group that and trips are nasty especially in older games (nowadays you just gotta slot in flinch free and limit your build a bit so you are able to play the fucking game)
Tbh if a longsword player joins my hunting group they get kicked out imidiatly i just dont wanna deal with that broken bullshit
@@samstone1445 Lol. No, it doesnt. Gimmicks do not equal higher skill celing. In fact it often means a much lower one.
Hammer users have to deal with a slowwer than average movement speed, a slow weapon that has a ridiculously low reach while dealing blunt damage meaning that they NEED to hang around the face of the monster (99% of the time the most dangerous part) to reamain effective all while having no guard or counter move, no built in flinch free, having the slowest dodge in the game with poor I-frames while also having to manage charge levels like a greatsword user because each level of charge completely changes your moveset WHILE KEEPING IN MIND that your charge moves drain stamina AS DOES YOUR DODGING meaning that if you do one you drain your potential to do the other and deal with all of that while not gettng carted over and over. Proper hammer use is less a skill celing and more of a skill Mt Everest. No celing in sight, only higher and higher climbs and people have died trying to get there.
Meanwhile LS users have a faster movement speed, faster dodge with better frames, counter moves that can negate monster attacks while attacking back, all of their gimmicks run off of their own meter so doing most of your flashy moves will still leave you with stamina to duck out when you cock things up, built in flinch free, a frankly silly range with AoE and delayed damage moves, and their weapon does slashing damage so they can chill near the (relatively) safer ass of the monster and still remain effective (and thanks to that range AND speed actually can cut tails easier than any other weapon type). You can literally roll your face on your controller and be effective with LS. I know this from experience because i have actually done it to proove a point. I cut the tail and i didnt even fucking cart. The LS doesnt have a skill celing. it hs a skill crawlspace with some fancy gimmick moves.
@KoboldCantations Hoo boy, I think we're way too far apart here to find even a slight middle ground. Again, I've played a lot of Hammer, and while I love the weapon, I honestly think it's one of the easiest weapons out there. It was my first main weapon back in Tri, so I'm speaking as someone with hundreds of hours of just Hammer across the various games. Stamina management is not difficult in Rise. Being near the head is not significantly more difficult than being behind; heck, it's arguably harder on some monsters. The things you mention for Longsword (aside from built in Flinch Free and counters) apply to pretty much every bladed weapon.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that Hammer isn't fun, or good, or requires skill to play well. I'm also not saying that LS isn't a very strong weapon in Rise. But claiming that LS is just the easy mode zero skill weapon, especially in relation to relatively simple Hammer, is just ridiculous to me.
can't wait for scottfalco to make a video of just the twins dancing for an hour
That’s something I would put instantly in in my favorites if that were to happen C:
Need this
Please let this happen
Need it
1 million views instantly
In Rise, Gunlance mains aren't just the Tank and the Artillery battalion but also the f*cking Airforce.
I accept this responsibility with the highest honor.
You should definitely visit our Reddit Page, I don't think any other weapon has organized one like this.
They are fucking rockets
you can slowly hear valstrax theme on the background....but weird....its not valstrax whos coming....*turbo jet engine sounds on the background with a mofo holding a gunlance at top speed*
And when it's a full party, things are gonna get crazy...
Oh boy, I sure do love trying to build up my charge blade while the longsword main is comboing the monster across the zone
TBH, counter peak perfomance is very helpful for that. You can just cpp, swing the axe a few times, rinse and repeat.
_"I like that is become the support weapon..."_
S&S Mains with their support builds: *"Always has been..."* **chugs AoE healing**
Edit: Coming back to this after 66 hunts farming Magnamalo, I can say this kind of does HBG a disservice, as being able to charge near surgically precise shots, has managed to make hunts and part-breaking (which is especially helpful against Magnamalo) so much more of a breeze... granted, I kind of needed the Nargacuga set for the *Evade Extender* and increased iFrames so they didn't feel unbearably sluggish... but at 95 hunts with it now, I can say you can get to be an entirely capable HGB main.
Tbh this entire video is obviously based on the fact that he only plays like, 3 weapons out of all of these, as he talks about most of these weapons from a 3rd person perspective, as if he just watched videos or read their movesets lol
Absolutely SHITS on the long sword just to put hammer number one, this man isn't afraid of anyone
Why would he be afraid of speaking the truth?
Hehehehehehe. Hammy go BOOM
Screw the long sword I can never get any combos because of that asshole who hits everyone
@@Oogabooga378 "jUSt TAkE fliNCh fReE"
@@OtioseFanatic that was not truth the guy never even said anything about the hammer but just sang a fuckin hammer song and then screams at the longsword just because its good and we longsword users cut the tail to make the fight more easier like for example,rathian we cut her tail so that we have less poison
Scott: "SnS is only A tier"
JoCat: " So you have chosen death"
Without oil, it's not slick enough to be an S-tier.
@@Alastorchaos with oil it'll be S+
Two titans clashing. Hammer vs S&S. I would love to see an animated duel of that!
@@GameFreeak459 indeed
@@GameFreeak459 it can already ko in one move oils would be over kill lol
Insect glaive was my first weapon and got me into the series, so I really don't care if it's suboptimal or whatever. I just have fun using it (although tbh it was better in world, and I find myself using more Switch Axe in most cases).
When you master theGlaive it’s a juggernaut power house weapon
And helicoptering can be effective if you grab the Airborne skill.
Whenever someone tells me insect glaive is bad, I pole vault into the air and hit them on the head.
@@thelotusking9901 when someone tells me it's bad it just kinda irritates me
People hate it because people tend to not use the bug and just chain heavy vault attacks but literally just grab the three extracts (really only need the red and white if you're good at midair dodging) and make sure you don't waste all your time in the air because that's great for getting silkbind damage but you can hit while on the floor for a reason and you're good
It's not a super complicated weapon it just looks cooler to use it wrong and that means a lot of people pick it up just to spam vault and the people who never picked up see that and both come to disrespect the weapon because one sees it as useless because they used it wrong and had a hard time and the other sees it as useless because they watch other people use it wrong
Insect glaive needs at least an A tier
I personally enjoy any of the big shield weapons
The only thing missing is a taunt
Seriously the big shield weapons would be way better if they had some sort of taunt
There *is* a decoration that draws the monsters Aggro that you can slot in luckily enough
“Sns is a support weapon” Scott I need English captions on this video because I don’t speak WRONG.
It does work very well in a supporting role though, while slashing the shit out of things at the same time.
It just does everything better than everyone else we all know this.
Imma need a translator here cus I don’t speak W R O N G
@@HunterForHire422 This but unironically, they straight up gave it a fucking guard point even
It's a better choice of support weapon than Hunting horn because it can save ass AND kick in teeth better. Is what he means.
ScottFalco: *puts SnS on A tier*
Also ScottFalco: Why do I hear JoJo music?
JoCat: *Burst out of a rock statue*
"now you know that SnS is most powerful, your welcome" - Jocat after beating up scott
Thats cute for a person within fireball distance
ProJared as well! They'll be marching, soon. We should make popcorn, using some of the salt off this video.~
Some dude with a hunting horde appears and starts playing Giorno's theme while JoCat is beating the living daylights out if Scott with his stonking muscles.
AYAYAYAAAAAAAAA
As a person who mains the hammer and longsword I have never been so offended yet happy at the same time
Honestly I'm quite happy with Lance not getting any real changes. A bit more damage or a built in threat increase would be nice but other than that the comfy, consistent DPS and survivability, being able to dismantle every monster with my poke, poke, poke, breaking everything as I go is nice.
I'm only here to say I love the latest edition of Scott's artstyle.
I can't tell if this is a joke or not. It looks exactly the same as it did years ago, just in case this isn't a joke. If it is a joke, well, you know, text lacking tone when using such general words and all that.
@@julielandherr4686 Hmm. Yes, this "comedy" is not sophisticated enough. Perhaps if you threw in a joke or two about 18th century England, then I would be rather fascinated and perhaps produce a chuckle to portray my amusement
@@julielandherr4686 it is different from his previous artstyle tho?
i agree completely, i hated his artstyle 3 years ago with his first mhw videos, but this i really enjoy, although, maybe it's just the ara ara twins
@@carpetjam1264 while the overall stylization is largely the same ther is a very obvious increase in Scots level of polish and shading with his more recent work and comfort with working in more complex designs, it's easy to kiss but if you take the time to look there is a clear upgrade over the years
Ever since I found out that LS has a stronger wake up hit than the GS I have never seen the world the same way everything looks so gray dark and gloomy only drinking can make me feel better- from a great sword user
Fuck
-from another great sword user
For the love of God imma need some strong vodka - another another great sword user
This is bullshit. Nothing matters anymore.
- sincerely, another great sword user
Yeah, now I main light bowgun, but he do be lying tho, you still get one shotted pretty easy
-sincerely a former great sword user
Long Sword is bullshit
- A former L.S main.
Scott: "Lance isn't very good this game"
Me: *Laughs in Spiral Thrust.
Honestly, Insect Glaive is best when you stay on the ground. Good combos with red extract that hit fast enough to make elemental damage viable
Hey since this is a recent comment I have a need to add that as of now that sunbreak is out aerial insect glaive has been better than ever, with a lot of procs for elemental, while ground combos still do more damage, it's not as big of a difference as it used to be
@@comrad3892Agreed im an insect glaive main myself and i noticed the damage differense between the two playstyles in base rise it never was too fun but now airial is so much dam fun even if its dps isnt op hitting a fully charged diving wivern for nearly 2k is so saticfying
What makes me the most frustrated is that the game starts players with the long sword, and then the first high rank weapon you get is a fucking long sword. Capcom was determined to make it even more popular than it was in world and iceborne.
When I first started and it gave the longsword and told me to go hunt I was worried that it was gonna make the first hunt a forced longsword one
He didnt even like his longsword... he got rid of it and now he has dual blades !
Getting an LS for hitting high-rank is nothing new.. looking at you mh3u..
@@thexsebix at least the long sword was somewhat more balanced in that game
@Weeb Tendency I did that but with dual blades despite not at all being familiar with them from world. just do what I did and pick up other weapons to hunt rakna kadaki. it's a great fight to try out new weapons. once you've found one you like try using it on harder monsters :)
just remember that you don't know if you like a weapon until you've tried in on a hunt. the training area is just to grasp the controls and doesn't show you what a weapon truly has to offer.
Scott: *goes on the rant about how much he hates the Long Sword because it's too busted*
Also Scott: "Ooga booga hammer good!"
Tbh I applaud you because that made me chuckle pretty good
To be honest as a hammer main nothing is better then smashing your hammer into the monster so hard that they get knocked around like a ragdoll
Hammer go bonk. I'm an LBG main, but when I want to head into melee range, hammer is the only choice.
Saying Longsword it an easy mode and doesn't take any skill is very rude to those speedrunners.
Crowley Reid speed runners know it's cheesy that's why they choose it. The skill required is to know the monsters rng, but other weapons would need to practice other things on top of that. It is what it is.
@@markvermo7523 the fact that it's the main chosen weapon by speed runners says it all really...
For the record, I kind of forgot about the flips because I was having so much fun with the the bug in rise. Actually needing to micromanage it (no more auto attacking) and being able to get it out more often and keep it out longer? The insect glaive is so much more fun to use in rise ^^
Great video!!!! Love your animation and content. Thank you Scott
If you don’t release a gif of the twins dancing I’ll cry
I second this, I'll cry too, don't fucking test me
Fucking same
THIS
count me in, I'm already lying on the ground
Man I *FEEL* the testosterone flowing through this thread
Scott: Calls Hunting Horn annoying noise.
Hunting Horn Mains: *Sad dooots*
One day, one day we will be a very viable pick in S tier
*sad doots on my bag pipes*
Was here for lolz but now I'm gonna go back to dooting monsters to death. They keep running because they hear me coming (recently swapped my preferred music i imagine my hunter playing to the recent NieR crossover music in the ff14 NieR raids)
I've been a HH main since 4U why can't people leave us alone.
@@medivex3793 i all but joined the HH gang. Felt a bit on the slow slide in world so I couldn't really get into it. But Rise made it feel easier to learn (still a hard to master weapon; dedication to the art after all) as opposed to World having to worry about changes in combos as songs changed while learning the various monster patterns and tells (world was my 1st MH but I have started into GU on the side)
I've been playing since Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate on the Wii U and I genuinely had no idea Long Sword was considered easy mode, I just played it because it was fun. Now I'm trying out the Switch Axe, the Hammer, and the Charge Blade and I'm really enjoying them! Thanks for the extra salt!
Greatsword main here and the fact the longsword does more wakeup damage than me is honestly dumb. Let me have my massive slash to the hammers bonk thank you!
SnS: Support weapon
Lance: Tank weapon
Cmon Scott I thought this wasn't your first Monster Hunter
This
Lance actually can have some incredibly high DPS but to get it there take crazy skill. Look up some of the arena fights, guy hunts rajang in under 2 mins
@@shrimpbread7284 arena is not really a good indication for the strength of a weapon, mostly because the builds aren’t always balanced, if you look at regular speedruns you’ll see that while lance is still powerful and kills most monsters under 4 minutes it’s still outclassed by most other weapons
Still my favorite and main tho
@@lightbrand_ noone
Absolutely noone
Lance mains:Lance is garbage but it's my garbage
(never used a lance until rise and it's the weapon i enjoy the most)
The twins dancing gives me life. *Thank you.*
you are stupid weeb
@@IsurvivedHawaii You're not cool or funny for saying this. Get a fucking life instead of living in the comment section hating on people for no reason you gremlin. Jfc.
@@IsurvivedHawaii go be an ass elsewhere, monster hunter rise is a japanese game series in the first place.
your mean words won’t offend me
@@IsurvivedHawaii intense confusion
I do love seeing charge blade high. I started in world and instantly fell in love with the charge blade as an idea, effectively 2 different weapons with the power to BRING DOWN THE HAMMER! when you get it just right. I'm not great with it i don't have the reaction times to get the most of out the shield, but i know how to charge and drop hard. Few things produce happy chemical like getting charge, dumping it into the blade, building charge and then Dropping it all in one go on a targets head and body.
Fucking Christ I haven’t watched your videos in a fat minute and your animation quality has gone through the roof since then good job man!
Absolutely hilarious how he said “hammer is the best” and then ended the video with no other explanation lmao. Great work as always Scott
Can’t top the Flip-a-Dips.
Two words: unga bunga
@@Edognightcrest Four Words: Unga Bunga Toot Toot
As a hammer main, this fills my soul with *PRIDE AND ACCOMPLISHMENT*
Hammer is just simply the best
Ooga Booga Hammer Brothers forever!
Same here
As a charge blade main who always hunts with a hammer main, I agree with this teir list
Yup it is, when I see head I bonk 😎
As an insect glaive main, I completely get what you mean about people just ignoring the bug and focusing on flipping around. I always make bug a priority before doing major attack since it boosts. I also like to switch play styles for certain monsters like hammer on monsters such as Barioth or using it when I need certain parts
Walking towards magalo with hammer.
"It's time for your ball crushing."
Deals 400 dmg in two swings at the head.
Scott: *Puts HH in low tier*
HH Users: "UNACCEPTABLE"
Also Scott: *Puts longsword even lower*
HH Mains who remembered their sweet doots getting interrupted by LS players: "That is...Acceptable..."
As a HH main this hurt my soul to read.
@@LucaxCorp I think the worst part is as an HH user I can’t even deny what he’s said
This hurts cause it's true. My doot stick cries in sadness.
@@JadaThePotata nah you can 100%, HH has viable damage now, we're about #7 on most speedruns so saying we don't carry our DPS is just, hes wrong.
@@JadaThePotata if you can deny what he said... you're not an actual HH user dude. Real HH users realize that WE'RE FINALLY VIABLE *HALLELUJAH*
As a Charge Blade Main, I can say that the "S Tier" is a good place for those players that aren't going to read the entire 89 page instruction manual and practice with it an hour a day to make sure they understand it.
As a guy who tried several times to main Charge Blade I feel this.
And don´t make a armor with the very needed skills in it, that boost CB from A to S tier.
@@LucaxCorp charge blade is brain dead once you understand it. its really simple.
Imagine having to read the instruction manual. I just read the first page and help me oh my god
as a person who mains charge blade, its one of the easier weapons to learn actually
As a Long Sword main…
I hope I encounter you on your next hunt Scott. ;)
Hmmm as a dual blades main I’m... satisfied with its position, I’d just like to say that I always go for the tail and legs
ScottFalco: **uses Ooga Booga to explain Hammer**
Yes, Scott, the Hammer IS a caveman weapon.
i concur, i mean, have you seen the goss harag hammer
Hating the longsword is such a hammer main thing xD
In world my brother is still sometimes complaining about me, even after I already cut the tail :D
Yes, it is bonk.
@@Yormolch ok listen when im on a hunt a need one part break for example a zinogres claws and i keep getting flinched backwards by a long sword yes i tend to get angry at longswords (yes im a hammer main i also use the light bowgun somethimes)
@@justarandomcatmanwithaphon2871 you do not surprise me, but I feel sorry for you. When I play with my longsword, I always try to avoid hitting my mates
Sometimes sending a message in the beginning can help
Can we all come to agreement, that it's nice to see Scott's avatar look less depressed and more brimming with joy and excitement, hope you're doing G broski
Agreed
Its just YES
God I can’t agree with this more. I honestly hope he IS doing better now.
"Hammer is the best. It's ooga booga big, and it's ooga booga strong. When you main the ooga hammer, you can't go booga wrong!"
The way the twins are just vibing and the left one is so smug just makes that part so good.
The way you did this tier list made much more fun than the normal "*monotone voice* So uh...this one goes here because um...this reason..."
Me, an insect glaive main: >:(
My roommate, a hunting horn main: >:(
Me: A Switch Axe Main: :)
@@arcade1915 Same :) Swaxe is cool
got any room for a capable sns that can both cut tails and bash a skull in?
@@professorpenne9962 that‘s why i do it not near other Hunters
Me: a charge blade main vibing with flinch free and rapid morph :)
"See's Hammer on top"
"See's Longsword on bottom"
Hmmm I wounder it there's a connection there?
No this is a completly unbiased tier list and is 100% correct. ~ a Hammer Main
Still wondering why hammer though? It can be unyielding and difficult? I mean I make a ton of online friends being a hammer? But what's the deal. It's my first M.H. game but I always prefer the slow and methodic? All I do is knock the heavy think on it's butt every now and again. Most the monsters do not even allow me to frontal charge like I wanna. Why can't I just rock it?
Even as someone who doesn’t main the weapon, I love hammer in rise. Also fuck longswords
My poor hunting horn is still getting the slaps it doesn't deserve, hunting horn is awesome and I shall stand by my main XD
I stand with you fellow horn main
I will also stand by this as a hunting horn main
HuntingHorn is literally just the hammer but better. Like imagine a hammer that isnt slow as hell, doestn flinch, and heals the party/applies buffs
@@savannahs.5874 look at the speedrun times buddy hammer outclasses the loot on every monster in both rise and world i think you just have skill issue and need to use the gutted braindead hunting horn in rise
@@inarosthedad3565 damn someone is butthurt. Also your logic makes no sense you're describing the hammer as if it's broken and needs to be nerfed but then say you don't need skill for the hunting horn lol.
I've played the Switch Axe and became a main of it for some time but I love the Insect Glaive because of its mobility and possible big damage. With Rise(which I haven't played yet), the Swaxe has much more mobility which is something it desperately needed!
The non-LS community has never hated LS users more, thanks rise
Just play with people who play with it correctly
The tears give me life.
@@dandyd1877 not everyone has friends that play MH, and randos will still annoy the hell outta ya so it's kind of hard to just play with "good ls users"
Yeah I main LS but I only use it in solo, when I go multiplayer il use hammer or GS.
It always happens. In world, I fought safi and I was using hammer. The monster fell down via mount and literally all the longsword users ran to the head. I wanted to bonk the monster to cause a stun but the fucking annoying trips prevented me from doing so.
I’m gonna need a hour long clip of Hinoa and Minoto dancing at the end thank you
with greenscreen
For rise I went for ranger. (Hbg lbg and bow) It has been so fun when you build up the arsenal because it's like your a wizard alchemist that created firearms and now your mad with power. Setting effects, big boom, and if your a lbg many rapid booms
I try to use a different weapon each game I play, but this video has reminded me of my love for the Hammer, and I might just start a new run dedicated to it
I’m an OG Hammer and HH main and I have never felt more conflicted
Same here! Horn was my first weapon, and then I fell in love with hammer.
Things are easier when you don't know what everyone thinks of your weapon.
3:10 You somehow found the exact combination of words and syllables to trigger every HH main in existence
You’re not wrong there buddy. As a fellow hunting horn main in World, all the people I team with are so grateful to have a hunting horn on their team.
@@Will-mk5pj HH sucks tho. I have to agree with scot
Okay, that LS "accessibility options" joke completely maxed out my stun threshold.
Me, an hammer main: “I’ve never seen my weapon described in a better way than this”
Jesus Scott, you really have a massive trauma from MH4U release of the Insect Glaive.
je suis monte!
Insect Glaive was stupidly OP in 4U
I just like the fact I can fly around
@@teejay9189 you say that as though we don't have special creatures that literally shit out steel-strong webbing to sling us from one cliffside to another, weapon-ready included
@@HPMCCPooTis but you can literally fly with the glaive... I see where he's coming from. But I've been a good IG since 4
If I knew at the time that Scott was gonna beak into my room through my window and stab me in throat while I slept, I would never have picked up long sword.
Longsword isn't too bad, even if I mistime my Guard Edge, your hitboxes are so massive that It'll still give me sharpeness
It's almost 2 years, and I still sing Scott Hammer Song.
Rise is honestly the game where I started to put the longsword down and pick up other weapons more frequently. I wanted to do so in World and try stuff like SnS and Greatsword in that game but I for some reason struggled at paying attention to the charges tiny little flashes.
Your rant about LS made me think about this funny video where an LS player kept getting launched by an SA player in 3U and posted a video about it, and all the comments were like “You play Longsword, your opinion on this matter is invalid”
Yes
What do you mean I can’t run directly next to someone swinging around their weapon? All the space is mine to use, and it’s definitely not my fault when people cart for tripping on my weapon cause I have the spacial awareness and empathy of a toaster
Oh yeah i remember this video
As a LS main I agree with all of Scott’s points
I remember that and some guy in the comments was defending long sword always going for the head saying everyone else needs to learn positioning even though hitting the head is our one job as a hammer main
Can someone make Hinoa and Minoto just dancing on loop
I wish to see an updated list, will be awesome
Love the song for the hammer.
As a long sword main, never before have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with
*me, a GS main having MHW Vietnam flashbacks to being interupted by plesioth hitboxes in a weapon*
Yeah same. Gonna learn either hammer, CB or gunlance but havent decided which one. Already have 70 hours with long sword and have beat all of the current content (until the april update)
👍
@@harlendcd7957 I started MHW with longsword, then tried out everything for a while and stuck with charge blade. Nothings better than hitting a combo with the exploding lightning transformer axe. Its completely over the top and I love it.
good thing its only 10% of the player base that hates us eh XD
HH got reworked to play the melodies automatically so Long Swords can’t interrupt their performance for the thousand time in a hunt.
I almost cried tears of joy when I saw that
@@Tibli13 with so many long swords around, everybody's crying in the hub
Hammer = big pp and that's just a fact of life. Everyone knows hammer is big dick energy!
The HH is just a crappy hammer so it's smol pp. I don't make the rules, just facts!
But seriously, I wish the HH was better but hammer beats it in every way because the buffs just aren't substantial enough to notice much 😕
AyElCee playing the worse version of a beloved weapon is BDE
@@Subarashii_Nem Beats in in every way so much that no one play hammer. LOL
"Aerial Glaive bad"
Diving Wyvern would like to speak with you.
As a LS main, you only provoked us more now. Forget looting the tails.
Camp hammer main here - we can live in harmony. you choppa offa the loose bits, and i'll stun lock them with brain trauma. everyone wins!
"HH is annoying noise"
*Disgusted gasp, clutches heart*
Truly, he lacks the taste to appreciate the beautiful artform of playing music on bagpipes and a monster's face simultaneously
@@hajimakairu5451 but if you heard it couple times it will probably get annoying
@@dripclanka4469 Considering the fact that I became a HH main back in Gen because I found the sound it made funny (still do), I somehow doubt it'll get annoying
*Royal Gasp* "How, dare, you!"
*enraged Nargacuga horn doots*
I desire a gif of that last segment of Scott singing with the twins cheering in the background. It's amazing.
love how gunlance mains literally adapted the valstrax strategy of hitting an enemy at mach 5
Okay, I didn't see the tier list before. And I can agree about the flips at times, I used to only flip for a bit when I first started with Insect Glaive. BUT I GOT BETTER! also severing tails with bug will always be funny to me.
As a duel blades user, it brings me joy to see duel blades in B because that's where we are. We're not amazing, but we still do ok
Yay I was hoping to see another dual blades user, I know they don't do as much at one time as hammer, sword etc. But I get to zoom around and slash away and the great sword and bigger weapons were so slow. I just enjoy going whoooosh and slash :)
@@moonraven4837 ye boy. I love being able to dodge most stuff this game. I feel fast as lightning even if in not the heaviest attacker.
@@MrGukkos yeah you get it too!
Just got the game. Been a dual blade user since demon dance was known as the down swing and ddu was the meta, going to continue to be one after all this weeb shit passes. Stay strong my friend, our time will come again.
@@moonraven4837 You just described my entire mindset when picking dual blades...
Do we all just think alike when picking this weapon? (Minus the weebs)
MY BABY GUNLANCE GETTING THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE
True that ever sicne i got blast dash i never looked back. Gunlance is so goated in this game
gunlance mains our time is NOW
Finally, took a while to find it but a gunlance comment at last.
@@rj60000 maybe after capcom decides to not first nerf the weapon and then give it a buff, like groundsplitter doesn't even reach on wide 4 the same damage as in world.
Ehhh. Blast dash is fun but shelling damage is pretty bad compared to World and doesn't scale with anything outside of Artillery, bombardier food buff, and ground splitter. And ground splitter is a temporary buff that costs wirebugs and will disappear if you sheathe your weapon at any point, even if you just get hit and do the wirebug recovery. It has some of the slowest speedrun times right now. Capcom has some serious issues with just letting Gunlance be good.
As someone who uses the glaive I am angy lol been using that and switch axe since mh4u, that long sword rant was mint lol
the hh was so powerfull they had to (basically) remove it in rise to contain it‘s power
... */aggressively continues to use Insect Glaive/*
Preach Brother!
It's so good in Rise! The aerial attacks do good damage now & Diving Wyvern is so satisfying.
@@5-Volt aerial attacks still do poo poo damage
@@kotzer71 less poo poo damage than before, and they buff the diving wyvern for sexy damage numbers lol
Je suis Monte!
man, it’s funny jokes and stuff but scott’s animation is REALLY good. he’s so good at this
I recently tried hammer after using switch axe for the majority of monster hunter games and honestly, it's amazing. I tried using it once and now I can't put it down. I guess I'm an honorary hammer main now
As an insect glaive main, have fun dodging attacks while the monster flies aroun-
Wait what do you mean you can just use the wirebug
I got rise just to hear the ara ara
Same
Underage ara ara
Ah i see you're a man of culture as well
... but why
Pro weeb Respect
Scott will continue to draw and put twins/clones in his thumbnail for as long as he can.
Not convinced ima still main kinsect and i guess the glaive
Scott:(hates longsword) the bowguns are too safe
Me a ls and bowgun user:.......
3:21 fun fact, someone on reddit did calulations on what weapons speed up or slow down hunt times. Hunting Horn does factually speed up Hunting times.
I know I'm late to the party, but link?
@@KouriRyu I'm gonna need to look at that up again as I kind've wanted the info for myself so give me a bit.
Can confirm, I bring HH for certain quests cause it always gets to 8 minutes. *But* it’s only when the HH has Attack up Large
@@whitejester let's be real here.
If you don't have offensive hunting horn buffs. You just don't exist at all.
Everybody knows HH is best with attack ups.
@@fattytan1377 that’s what I’m sad about in MHW and Rise, back in FU and prior games the HH was always for its skill buffs that could negate wind pressure and roars instead of damage. I do not know what Capcom did with the numbers but the fact utility skills and buffs are forgotten is quite saddening. It used to bring me such joy to shave off 10 minutes because I prioritised earplugs or tremor res other than damage.
IG is master class. The problem is that most damage is done on the ground, which is stupid for a weapon that has such satisfying and visual pleasing aerial gameplay and animation. If they made it so the longer you were in the air the more damage it did, I'd be a die hard IG.
Diving Wyvern does that exact thing, so
I mean the ground damage helps discourage people from just pretending to be a helicopter 24/7 because as an IG main from personal experience if you just spam the jump monsters can and WILL smack you out of the air
Ig can triple an output damage on the spear drop skill which is like a weaker rage slash. It slow to build up but still can attack. This time you have to know when to attack and the direction or you lose the multiplier.
Get a red extract and slay, it’s just as satisfying
same but if im hunting something that flys the ig is coming out and i cut tails a fuck ton in world ilwith my ig sets
What’s the difference between sharpening a hammer and sharpening a hunting horn? When you sharpen a hammer it’s still going to be dull and blunt, but when you sharpen a hunting horn, the music never goes flat! Ba dum dizzz. 😎