Who's the Greatest Ruler of Outworld?

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  • @jacobsedlack1173
    @jacobsedlack1173 Рік тому +100

    The New Timeline has turned Onaga into MK Godzilla.
    Shao inspired Triple H's King of Kings gimmick in the WWE.
    Kotal...had so much potential.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +38

      Onaga, the Kaiju King.
      Shao Kahn, the WWE star.
      Kota Kahn, the wheelchair enthusiast.

    • @MrCritic77
      @MrCritic77 Рік тому +3

      Source for Shao inspiring Triple H? Not trying to be rude, that’s actually kinda cool if it were true.

    • @Nick-up5wv
      @Nick-up5wv Рік тому +2

      ​@@MrCritic77There's not really a source, per say, it's more fan speculation, but the resemblance between the two is uncanny. Also Sub-Zero DID inspire Glacier from WCW and that IS a fact so maybe...🤔

    • @Gr1ff-1333
      @Gr1ff-1333 Рік тому +1

      @@CynicalWarlockLMAO TRUE 😂

    • @lordtrigon1733
      @lordtrigon1733 Рік тому +4

      Trips was inspired by Conan the Barbarian and the art of Frank Frazetta for that (a role he auditioned for but lost out to Jason Momoa) but there's a lot of that Conan imagery in Shao Kahn too, so the connection is understandable.

  • @4569packers
    @4569packers Рік тому +281

    We all know that KK in a wheelchair is the strongest ruler of Outworld

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +55

      Charles Xavier's got nothin on KK.

    • @adventurianist2580
      @adventurianist2580 Рік тому +26

      SonicHaXD sends his regards.

    • @adventurianist2580
      @adventurianist2580 Рік тому +28

      “He started off hating Tarkatans, now he doesn’t really care.”

    • @BritVR2022
      @BritVR2022 Рік тому

      kk in a wheelchair kk in a wheelchair 🎉​@@adventurianist2580

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +19

      @@adventurianist2580 Sonic's the man.

  • @kylenguyen7371
    @kylenguyen7371 Рік тому +64

    13:12 Hatred of Earthrealm isn't the only reason Mileena is deemed a poor ruler, but it does motivate some of her actions. Recall that Mileena is a clone who lacks a lot of mental development in the MK9/X time line; she behaves like a psychotic toddler because she kind of *is* a psychotic toddler. She lacks the thousands of years of life experience or maturity that Kitana has, and knows only that her existence is predicated on serving her "father" Shao in violent fashion. With Shao dead, she has no guidance on how to conduct herself and seeks it out in confidants like Tanya - confidants who woupd gladly stab her in the back for their own ends.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +17

      Very well mentioned. It's a pity they chose to kill her off, in that same game. Would be interesting to follow such a 'young' character's growth.

  • @mattaku9430
    @mattaku9430 Рік тому +92

    Shao Kahn did more than anyone else.
    Even in MK1 Liu Kang decided to leave his conquest in place, Edenia is still a part of outworld, as well as Zaterra

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +31

      He's the ultimate overachiever.

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 11 місяців тому +4

      He didn't exactly leave it in place as kahn wasn't the emperor but instead the edinian family.

    • @havik5629
      @havik5629 5 місяців тому

      That we know of. Onaga was ruler for a long time before he got betrayed

    • @wingedbluj1674
      @wingedbluj1674 4 місяці тому +1

      I think Liu Kang keeping Edenia, Outworld, and Zeterra all together was to better oversee any possible threats. With the Sindel and Jerrod there to keep Shao in check alongside the unnamed interrealm tournament proving Earthrealm's might, Shao's ambition and zeal were tempered... and that was assuming he stayed the weak, sickly boy he was born as in this timeline.

  • @silverviper13
    @silverviper13 Рік тому +70

    Edenia was still a part of Outworld when Kotal ruled, and he didn't want to free them, that's why Edenians were on Mileena's side

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +8

      I must've missed that bit of info. Source?

    • @robertminnie782
      @robertminnie782 Рік тому +10

      Interesting. I wonder if Mileena would be, so generous as to grant independence to Edenia... can see that being another kolossal failure in a possible ending where Rain and Tanya betray her to get their way.

    • @gdstudios9522
      @gdstudios9522 Рік тому +13

      ⁠@@CynicalWarlockTanya says it in mkx in chapter 2, she says that mileena promesed to free edenia, and she says that kotal won’t

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +9

      @@gdstudios9522 Oooh, I remember now. Vaguely. Thanks a bunch.

    • @kylenguyen7371
      @kylenguyen7371 Рік тому +2

      ​@@gdstudios9522indeed, but it remains ubseen whether Mileena truly meant it. It is just as likely she only said it to foster resentment among the Outworld populace, rallying Edenian rebels against Kotal and accelerating a civil war. She could very well have been lying through her many teeth, with the intent of later subjugating the Edenians to her cruel will. It certainly helps explain why so many Edenian characters chose to support her. Rain and Tanya are also playing Mileena, however; they are very selfish and treacherous characters in MKX and the tie-in comics.

  • @TheNimbleEnigma
    @TheNimbleEnigma Рік тому +28

    I vibe most with Kotal, offering a more subtle and level-headed approach to his rule, but can't deny Shao Kahn's capabilities overall. Though not the biggest fan of brute force, I do commend the level of cunning and strategic might he brought to the table, probably the most evident of the three given what he's achieved. I sometimes forget that side of him, often overshadowed by the overwhelming bravado he's portrayed with, but he does possess an exceptional aptitude of intelligence and tactical thinking worthy of respect, and that's applied most (though cruel and chaotic) effectively throughout his reign, in ways in which you described really well during his portion of the video. The will to win is powerful.
    Of course, it's not without fatal flaws that bite him in the end, but I think he could still potentially be considered the "smartest" of the three given his achievements and the degree to which he's held power and how he obtained (and maintained) it.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +4

      Yeah, Shao's the ultimate hustler; always tryna get a little more.
      MK: Conquest's portrayal of him actually showcases this side of him a lot more. It's more or less the Shao Kahn show.

    • @Nick-up5wv
      @Nick-up5wv Рік тому +3

      Shao Kahn is to MK what HHH is to WWE; in terms of ruthlessness, cunning, and sheer brute force. Plus BOTH wield a sledgehammer and occasionally wear skull masks so there's that.

  • @LOWBORN-the-LOATHSOME
    @LOWBORN-the-LOATHSOME Рік тому +25

    Kotal didn't need to have a backbone for Shao Kahn to break it.
    I'd also hardly call him level-headed when he couldn't keep it on his shoulders- also courtesy of Shao Kahn.

  • @unfailingfeline5215
    @unfailingfeline5215 Рік тому +6

    The absolute disrespect NR did on Kotal is outstanding

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +4

      Which strains credulity. Why create a character just to have him be a punching bag, from day one?

  • @Nemchick
    @Nemchick Рік тому +50

    I would definitely vote for good old Onaga-Kahn. I think it is the most proper thing to do from a commoner perspective, aswell as privileged. With Shao you would suffer no matter who you are, a random guy or his personal adviser. Kotal is just not very smart nor farsighted, his rule portends instability and struggles, which sounds not that horrible, but why this when we have a better option... Stability, prosperity and having no fear for your life (as much as outworld allows it), what else can you ask for? Those were the days...

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +8

      A compelling argument.
      Onaga has that whole Chinese 'divine right to rule' thing goin on.

    • @katymbeke8400
      @katymbeke8400 8 місяців тому

      I vote for Onaga, Kotal's a pu**y.

    • @pawelzawrotniak3826
      @pawelzawrotniak3826 4 місяці тому +2

      I'm sure he's been called Emperror Onaga. Wasn't kahn title thing started by shao ?

  • @Knight1029
    @Knight1029 Рік тому +56

    In my heart I think Onaga is the greatest. He literally is just everything a young me would think is the biggest and baddest ruler. But realistically I think Kotal is the most sensible of the three. He would enact soft power which would gain him more in the long term than hard power. Eventually people would side with him because his success would mean their success.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +7

      Yeah, you combine the two, and get a pretty apex ruler.

    • @Knight1029
      @Knight1029 Рік тому +2

      @@CynicalWarlock exactly. Kotal could have been so much more than he is shown in the game's.

    • @soulwarrior5791
      @soulwarrior5791 Рік тому +3

      Kotal intended to execute a man for stealing bread and to make Tarkatans go extinct tho

    • @Knight1029
      @Knight1029 Рік тому +1

      @@soulwarrior5791 sure but that doesn't mean he is worse than the other two or has worse diplomacy. We're grading on a scale here.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      ​@@soulwarrior5791 Yeah, but this opinion is solely based on my video's depiction of Kotal, in this video. Which is much more generous than what NRS gave him.
      And Kotal executing a man for stealing is childsplay, compared to what Shao Kahn's penalties likely were.

  • @longthornhenderson331
    @longthornhenderson331 5 місяців тому +8

    Honestly as the best ruler id have to agree with you. Midway shao kept his empire alive for MILENNIA constantly expanding and getting new power. He had backup plans for if someone tried to overthrow him, he knew when to be a diplomat, hes very calculating and patient and ofc very strong. And has plenty of strong loyal allies. Not as loyal as onagas but o well.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  3 місяці тому

      Yeah well few can compete with immortal fanboys who will cheer you from beyond the grave.

  • @JasonVoorheesUnstoppable
    @JasonVoorheesUnstoppable Рік тому +11

    Morally kotal is the best but objectively in shao’s rule he had control over multiple realms and did more over all

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +1

      Yes, Shao did the most, by far. Too much, even.

  • @anthonynegron788
    @anthonynegron788 Місяць тому +3

    Shao Kahn is a born ruler. His insatiable lust for power/konquering proves that. After losing so much power immediately after the defeats to Liu Kang, he took back the throne of Outworld because there's no other alternative for him, he will find a way to throne by any means.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Місяць тому +1

      It's like that Cersei line - when you play the game of thrones, you win or you get molested up the ass.
      I'm pretty sure that's an exact quote.

  • @robertminnie782
    @robertminnie782 Рік тому +28

    My Boi Kotal goin' straight to the bottom, but I'm here for the fun facts and quality kontent. 💪✨

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +12

      Our boy Kotal needs a do-over, but for now, I'm doing the best I can with what I've got.

    • @tiendungle2465
      @tiendungle2465 Рік тому +5

      @@CynicalWarlockjust put KK in a wheelchair and he’ll be invincible

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +4

      @@tiendungle2465 And then watch KK get defeated by a flight of stairs.

    • @cgecharlemagne
      @cgecharlemagne Рік тому

      ​@@CynicalWarlock i would toss his blue sub ass down that shit

    • @robertminnie782
      @robertminnie782 Рік тому

      ​@@CynicalWarlock "Ah, my old enemy... *stairs."*

  • @angellopez354
    @angellopez354 Рік тому +11

    Would you say Kitana or Sindel would be better rulers due to them being able to unite Outworld, keeping peace between realms, but still being willing to fight risky battles for the better of their people?

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +8

      Deception Kitana & Sindel, definitely. Just because of the stuff they've already been through and the lessons they've learned.
      MK1 Kitana & Sindel.. I'll tell you after I play the game.

    • @Nick-up5wv
      @Nick-up5wv Рік тому +3

      Sindel; at least in MK 1 and her MK9 bio, would make a GREAT ruler. She ruled over Edenia however after King Jarod was murdered and in the ORIGINAL time-line she never got a chance to rule because after Shao Kahn took the throne of Edenia and fused it to Outworld Sindel... unalived herself... so we never got to see what she would do.😢

  • @mystictj9626
    @mystictj9626 Рік тому +21

    Few things..
    There’s this really common misconception throughout the community that paints this picture of Onaga being one of, if not, the most powerful character in the MK franchise. When no, that’s not the case, and leans into the fact that Shao Kahn is more than likely more powerful than he is. The REASON he poisoned him wasn’t because “he was stronger than Kahn and he’d know he’d lose”, it’s because Kahn KNEW that if he were to fight Onaga one on one, the evidence would backfire and fall right back onto him. The clever way of doing was to simply slip poison into his drink, everyone would go “hey since he’s dead, Kahn might as well take over the throne. He was his advisor after all”, and he’d have the throne handed to him in no time flat. Onaga’s specialty is necromancy. He’s famous for his ability to resurrect his army once they are killed in battle. That’s it. He is no sorcerer, he is no God of any sort. He is JUST a necromancer and a strong dragon warrior. The reason he was invincible in Deception was *because* of the Kamidogu, which is why smashing them was what neutralized him and resulted in his defeat (stated in Shujinko’s arcade ending and Armageddon bio)
    And yes, we do know what Onaga’s rule was like, or it’s at least described through Hotaru’s Deception bio. His rule was said to establish a great deal of order and stability across Outworld, willing the strength and power to command an undefeatable army of soldiers. It was a direct mirror to what Seido is now.

    • @Henry-iz7iv
      @Henry-iz7iv Рік тому +10

      While I’d say most of your points are correct, I would say Onaga is stronger than you give him credit for solely due to the entire Damashi thing. Unless im forgetting Damashi lore, projecting your consciousness as a deceptive ball of light is no easy feat

    • @serdusrex7274
      @serdusrex7274 Рік тому +3

      yeah exactly, id say than Onaga was stronger at that time, however later shao kahn was more powerfull, its even seen in armageddon it was I think were shao took Onaga 1v1 and won and still was able to fight meaning the fight wasnt too diffcult for him

    • @mystictj9626
      @mystictj9626 Рік тому +1

      @@Henry-iz7iv “Damashi” was a conscious form that was created *after* Onaga was killed and his essence was trapped within an egg by his holy men. He connected with the realms outside of death and slowly gained knowledge and insight on the universe and its ways. Onaga couldn’t do that while living.

    • @mystictj9626
      @mystictj9626 Рік тому +2

      What we also tend to forget about Shao Kahn as a character is that (and I blame the newer games for this), he was once depicted as an all powerful sorcerer who feared across all the realms. Onaga is nothing compared to that. The newer installments just depict him as an idiot who swings hammer left and right.
      A magic based warlord who specializes in sorcery Vs. A large dragon who breathes fire and can resurrect the dead (Which wouldn’t be viable in a one on one scenario. Necromancy isn’t an instant spell.

    • @Henry-iz7iv
      @Henry-iz7iv Рік тому +1

      @@mystictj9626 Im aware of what Damashi was, but i guess the debate is whether Damashi should be accredited to Onaga or his servants. Personally I would say Onaga, as he essentially managed to live on after death, manipulate Shujinko, and restore his life on through his own actions and intelligence, even if Shujinko technically did most of the work. While he couldn’t have become Damashi on his own, once put within the vessel everything he did was his own feat, including bestowing Shujinko with arguably one of the most powerful… well, powers, we’ve seen in Mortal Kombat

  • @jalenwest426
    @jalenwest426 Рік тому +24

    Onaga is still the strongest it’s not even close. This man mental was so strong it basically blocked all of the “One Being” thoughts to merge the realm.. mean while shao submitted to the one being..

    • @bihan2255
      @bihan2255 Рік тому +1

      Shao beat him in Armageddon...

    • @ItsOfficiaI
      @ItsOfficiaI 11 місяців тому +1

      This is hot nonsense. The One Being influenced him just like Shao Kahn. Besides, it doesn't change the fact that Kahn beat him.

    • @SunFyyre
      @SunFyyre 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@ItsOfficiaI I think it is cannon that Onagas obsession for immortality gave him such tunnel vision that the One being decided to influence Shao Khan instead

  • @1YCARADOFACAO
    @1YCARADOFACAO 3 місяці тому +1

    My vote would go to Emperor Onaga, he was a powerful ruler that kept his realm in the best stable piece.
    I may use a similar argument with Kotal, as he heired a realm more divided then ever before, yet his rukership didin't crumbled down immediately. He even fought off a rebellion. But we cant forget what the games did to the poor guy, a shame too since he looks so cool.
    Shao is ruthless but very clearly self centered. He did create a powerful realm but to what cost? How many lives lost. Not even his enemies, outworlder lives.
    Yes i know hes a villain and that Outworld is a mess of a realm but the question asked is "Who was the best ruler" and Shao was not! Great warlord, terrible ruler

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  3 місяці тому +2

      Accurate. Onaga had both the power of Shao and the restraint of Kotal.

  • @jeremiahwilson8104
    @jeremiahwilson8104 Рік тому +3

    Really great video. I'm gonna subscribe if i haven't already. You make an extremely compelling argument. I think MK1 Sindel is probably up there. I know you haven't played the story yet.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      Hopefully, I'll get around to playing it soon.
      Then inevitably critique it to death.

  • @Kidapollo92
    @Kidapollo92 Рік тому +5

    Idk Edenia has an army of near immortal warriors but even so peace can make you soft. They may have not been prepared for the battle hardened outworlders and that is why they were crushed.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +1

      Yep, my sentiments exactly, from a few videos ago.

  • @jcmahrt5100
    @jcmahrt5100 14 годин тому

    Probably Onaga given that we don't really have that much information to go off of how he actually ruled Outworld, all we know is that he ruled Outworld and pretty much kept it safe with his invincible army. So, there can be a lot of arguments made on how one could see Onaga, and I imagine that Shao Khan probably censored much of his predecessor's rulership history in order to be more controlling of the narrative considering that the only people who remember Onaga seem to those who lived during that Era. And would just make sense for Shao to do so in order to keep his citizens from possibly finding a historical figure as a symbol for what Outworld could be without Shao Khan ruling.

  • @syki-tp1tn
    @syki-tp1tn Рік тому

    I knew shao kahn was probs gonna win but had my doubts that may be onaga is better. But after watching this vid I'm fully convinced. Nice video

  • @rezaashary7180
    @rezaashary7180 Рік тому

    Hope in the future you can talk about about sorcerer of mortal kombat like shang tsung and quan chi or similar one like ermac

  • @j3lly_m3lly
    @j3lly_m3lly Рік тому +5

    it's interesting how you showed the fight between shao kahn and onaga during armageddon, a fight where shao kahn kills onaga despite losing the wrath hammer, while saying that "shao kahn would get violated to pieces in 1 on 1 fight". he won the fight pretty well, considering how after it he returned to the pyramid, was strong enough to finish off blaze, and then defeat dark raiden and taven who has reached the full godhood at that point. i hope this is not an intentional spreading of misinformation.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +6

      *Advisor Shao* would get violated to pieces, not emperor Shao, who ruled for millennia, absorbed the power of countless realms and their souls, and has more battle experience than most of his armies put together.

  • @lordtrigon1733
    @lordtrigon1733 Рік тому +9

    Mileena is said to have gained the nickname "The Mad Empress" which is obviously a reference to Caligula, "The Mad Emperor" of Rome, so I think we can assume her reign would've been modeled on his too... so, if nothing else, at least it wasn't boring. (Would've been cool to witness some of the crazy shit she got up to, but I guess we can't have nice things. 😒)
    One thing about Shao Kahn in MK11 I think about, how much the people of Outworld love him. It does not take much for him to convince the masses and soldiers to get behind him, even Kotal's own people the Osh Tekk cheered and joined him when Shao delivered his head. He has a "Hulk Hogan" level of crowd manipulation (and a "Hulk Hogan" level of behind the scenes manipulation).

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +3

      Good points. Shao Kahn knows how to whip the crowd into a frenzy, and he reminds me of some of the old communist 'rulers', that ruled for so long and many people were so familiar with, that they didn't really wanna be freed from under them.

    • @lordtrigon1733
      @lordtrigon1733 Рік тому +2

      @@CynicalWarlock Outworld's got that Mao-stalgia going on. I can totally imagine your average Outworlder living through a civil war being "I remember a simpler time, a better time. I miss Shao Kahn." Or should that be "Shao-stalgia"?
      He's also got Napoleon-appeal too, who also easily convinced his rival's army to join him on the spot when he returned from exile.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +3

      @@lordtrigon1733 Communism! We're on the exact same page. Life was so much simpler back in my day, when good ol' Shao would give us a half-eaten loaf of bread and a good whipping. We didn't have much, but we were provided for. And there was always a newly merged realm to make friends with.
      Thooose were the daaays.
      Shao-stalgia's the perfect term for it.

    • @fightingmedialounge519
      @fightingmedialounge519 11 місяців тому +1

      They also cheered when kitanna took over. It seems like they just value strength.

    • @lordtrigon1733
      @lordtrigon1733 11 місяців тому

      @@fightingmedialounge519 Outworlders: "Hooray! Not-Kotal!"

  • @pawelzawrotniak3826
    @pawelzawrotniak3826 4 місяці тому +2

    I love shao kahn for being the classic that he is and I can't deny the freshness of Kotal. But Onaga gotta be the most badass. Like is there anything more fire than a villain is whose intro his army (which Shang and Quan tried to ressurect for one whole previous game) imiedantly wakes for a moment just to bow before him ?

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, everything about Deception's intro is brilliant. Raiden fighting the 2 sorcerers, him losing, the 2 betraying each other, Shang losing, the way Onaga appears and fucks up everyone's day.. it just goes from one awesome, striking beat, to the next.
      And establishing his might through his army bowing down to him soon as they saw him and how 2 sorcerers, a god, and a god's ultimate kamikaze jutsu barely tickled him is good visual storytelling.

    • @pawelzawrotniak3826
      @pawelzawrotniak3826 4 місяці тому

      @@CynicalWarlock the fact that in the boss battle with Onaga, we have to weaken him by breaking the stands with kamidogu's. Has MK ever had any other boss that required stage interaction to beat asides from the dragon king?

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  4 місяці тому +1

      @@pawelzawrotniak3826 Yeah, I mean it's possible to beat him without doing that, but it's way harder.

  • @Kraken-rex9743
    @Kraken-rex9743 Рік тому

    9:41 just note mk armageddon's ending was retconned in mk9

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, it's unclear to me what, if anything, was supposed to be the original canon ending to Armageddon, as it was quickly retconned to the MK9 thing.

    • @SupportGamin2025
      @SupportGamin2025 Рік тому

      It wasn't retconned just accept it,Jon Vogel and Ed boon already said years ago that Shao Kahn canonically killed Blaze,y'all still salty over it

  • @LWNightmareSheriff
    @LWNightmareSheriff 6 місяців тому +1

    Haven't watched yet, but Shao Kahn. He defeated the other two, he achieved the most, he was the greatest existential threat to Earthrealm. Shao ultimately won in the original timeline.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, even discounting all of that, he ruled, by far, the longest, despite having the most despotic style, and bleeding his realm and people dry. No one managed to overthrow him for countless thousands of years. Not once.

    • @LWNightmareSheriff
      @LWNightmareSheriff 6 місяців тому

      @@CynicalWarlock yeah until "kitana kahn" came and solo beat him (wtf)

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  6 місяців тому +1

      @@LWNightmareSheriff Because feminism.

  • @kuidelu
    @kuidelu 3 місяці тому

    I vote for Shao Kahn just for one quote : "empires must expand or die". At least one who understood that empires live beyond their means especially because of their armies, and need more and more conquest to cover their costs. The alternative is to cut the military budget and risk the revolt of countries too recently conquered and not yet assimilated.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  2 місяці тому

      That's half true - empires that grow too large for their own good (which all of them inevitably do) lose control of their territories and get toppled from within. And that happened to Shao too, through his campaign to conquer Earthrealm.

  • @redcoffeez
    @redcoffeez Рік тому +1

    kotal had so much potential. I hope in the new era of mk they do his character justice bc boy went through it rough

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +1

      My man gets executed in his own MK11 trailer. NRS is such a troll.

  • @caiofaznada
    @caiofaznada Рік тому

    Great Video!

  • @Angelo-nd4lg
    @Angelo-nd4lg Рік тому +1

    OMG can't believe you actually did it! Amazing much better than I could have ever expected and i agree 100% Shao is da g.o.a.t even if i always cheer for kk the blood n crip 😂

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +1

      All 3 deserved a video, so.. 3 birds with one ballistic missile.

    • @Angelo-nd4lg
      @Angelo-nd4lg Рік тому

      @@CynicalWarlock u rock dude keep it up

  • @ldking5132
    @ldking5132 Рік тому

    I really hope you keep making Mortal Kombat Kontent. Kan't get enough of it!
    See what I did there? With the K? HahaEHEH

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +1

      Klever..
      Lots of MK kontent planned. Not exclusively, but about a metric ton.

    • @ldking5132
      @ldking5132 Рік тому

      @@CynicalWarlock Clad to hear it. Keep it up my friend.

  • @Angel-ih4wo
    @Angel-ih4wo Рік тому +2

    Haven’t watched fully yet, dropping a like anyways

  • @Terminator-ht3sx
    @Terminator-ht3sx 10 місяців тому

    great vid🔥

  • @katymbeke8400
    @katymbeke8400 8 місяців тому +1

    Onaga doesn't sound like much of a bad guy, to be honest. What he did to Shujinko was insanely bad, but it was better than what Shao Kahn would've done if you think about swapping the Kahns scenario wise. I think the fact that we don't know much about him has something to do with it, and if NRS does bring him back hopefully they don't terribly write his character. I constantly think about the what if's of Onaga's rule.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  8 місяців тому +1

      I feel the same way. I think getting poisoned and killed put him on a warpath. So in a way, it's still Shao that's the root of all evil.

  • @CoolSaver
    @CoolSaver 5 місяців тому

    Fingers crossed for Onaga's return at his best in MK2(13). Maybe he can even be a final boss for two games in a row for once, to make him more of a serious threat, because only Shao Kahn was able to afford that luxury before, and it's been a long time since then.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  3 місяці тому +1

      Oh, you sweet summer child..

    • @CoolSaver
      @CoolSaver 3 місяці тому

      @@CynicalWarlock just let me dream a bit 😭

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  3 місяці тому +1

      @@CoolSaver Hey, this whole channel's a dream. So I get it.

  • @grandmasterskitz748
    @grandmasterskitz748 Рік тому +2

    Don't forget that Shao Kahn got snatched up by Onaga in Armageddon and must have single handedly defeated him because.. well Shao still ended up winning the power of blaze after everyone else was dead.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, as I mentioned, that starts to feel a bit fan-service-y, but I chalk it up to Shao using some kind of trickery or subterfuge to beat Onaga, just like the first time.

    • @Nick-up5wv
      @Nick-up5wv Рік тому +2

      Perhaps it was a clone. He fooled the Deadly Aliance with a clone once. He COULD have used a clone to fake out Onaga.

  • @stijnvanrobaeys7011
    @stijnvanrobaeys7011 Рік тому

    Thank you for the entertainment 🙏

  • @themaniomarian
    @themaniomarian Рік тому +6

    It has to go to Shao Khan. Because hearing somebody call him only as "Shao", or "General Shao" sounds just not right. Just his name alone, Shao Khan just feels like it rolls out of the tongue naturally.
    It is like calling Liu Kang a "Liu", or Kung Lao "Kung".
    But if we go for more "in-universe" I would say with Kotal you have more potential. Kotal has internal struggles, relationship with Jade, this is atleast something interesting about his character. Shao Khan was a brute with a bit of scheming behind him (for Netherrealm he is and will always be a dumb brute I guess) and Onaga is even less interesting on top of basically never been able to be actual boss you can fight in MK anymore, unless you give him Armaggedon Motaro treatment and just make him like a big dude with normal legs and stuff, or a dumb battle where he would have to be immune to any special moves, because nobody in hell would make special animations just for that.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +1

      Onaga was pretty bipedal, in Deception. But yeah, could've had a more elaborate fighting style.
      And I, of course, agree - Kotal has the most unrealized potential.

  • @SunFyyre
    @SunFyyre 6 місяців тому

    It always seemed to me that Shao Khan is like Raiden being assigned as "advisor" to the ruler of outworld to serve as its protector, I think that explains his power level and his ability to defeat Onaga at Armageddon and his odd powers and his inability to die unless killed by the elder gods 😂

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  6 місяців тому

      There's a voice file in Deception that claims Shao Kahn is the same race as the gods. And in Mortal Kombat: Conquest, Shao and Raiden are actual brothers.

  • @generalbertoni7495
    @generalbertoni7495 Рік тому

    Hey, love your kontent
    Since you briefly mentioned it, will you talk about Armageddon in detail? I know their main two dudes are both Kratos reskins but theres gotta be something else there. And the MK9 retcon is so much more lame than the og ending of Armageddon-

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      I assume you mean the Konquest mode ending.
      While I know the broad strokes, I never actually played Armageddon, so I guess I owe it to myself to look into it.

    • @generalbertoni7495
      @generalbertoni7495 Рік тому

      ​@@CynicalWarlockYou Def should! it's one of the two times we can roam around the whole MK world in such detail. It's kinda cool seeing what everyone is up to when there isn't a realm absorbing tournament- but yeah the ending leaves many possibilities none of which MK9 did

  • @Nick-up5wv
    @Nick-up5wv Рік тому

    Mileena did briefly rule in MKX, but you have the Deception/Armageddon time-line with her rule and you can make SOME inferences with how she would/did rule if you wanted to do a separate video on her. Also you can now use MK1 information. However Kitana would be the hardest since she Briefly was appointed Kahn in MK11 and wasn't set to rule at all in MK1. I don't think she ever ruled prior, but she has organized rebellions, so you could probably infer how she would rule if given the chance. She's a Titan now and has also ruled the Netherrealm before. Anyway great video.👍

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      Kitana ruled Outworld very briefly, after Shao Kahn got deposed, in the original timeline, if I recall correctly. I think she'd be too soft of a ruler. Her vanilla version, at least.
      And yeah, Deception Mileena has been around way longer than MK9/MKX Mileena, so she's clearly more adept at posing as her sister and acting like a ruler, at the very least.

    • @Nick-up5wv
      @Nick-up5wv Рік тому

      @@CynicalWarlock It was implied that Kitana ruled in the ORIGINAL time-line, but her reign was short-lived and was over Edenia. Back when Edenia and Outworld were diffrent Kitana briefly ruled over Edenia once it was separated from Outworld after MK3, but before MK4. She probably was ruler during MK4 since; in the comic at least, Sindel was imprisoned by Tanya. MAYBE Kitana was ruler during MKDA; but was killed by MKD, allowing Mileena to take over.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      @@Nick-up5wv So, not.. much to talk about.

    • @Nick-up5wv
      @Nick-up5wv Рік тому

      @@CynicalWarlock Basically. You'd have to mostly speculate how she would rule, but if her MK11 ending is anything to go by she can't handle the pressure. She'd be a loved, but not feared ruler and wouldn't be able to do ANYTHING to stop a would be conquer; especially Shao Kahn. No I'm not counting MK11. Her beating Shao Kahn was garbage and I'm glad her story got retconed.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +1

      @@Nick-up5wv Couldn't have said it better myself.

  • @discrw
    @discrw Рік тому +7

    I feel there’s an inherent bias here as the story of all the MK games take place during or after Shao Khan’s reign. We don’t know what battles Onaga had to fight or what it took to Conquer All of Outworld. Both Shao and Kotal start out with an entire empire to work from, where as Onaga built an empire from scratch. It easier to invade other countries when you have a country of your own.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +2

      Exactly. Like I said, there isn't as much info on the dragon king as I'd like.

  • @Itszozolol
    @Itszozolol 9 місяців тому

    Oh my glorious sweet rule of outworld Shao khan where do I even begin.

  • @ajshiro3957
    @ajshiro3957 Рік тому +1

    All these rulers, but everyone knows the true ruler of Outworld is Shang Tsung. Don't question how he got into power. Just know he knows a guy who knows a guy who got him into power. Totally didn't bribe a certain general to power then backstab him, although he totally would.

  • @RobertLopez-zu6bz
    @RobertLopez-zu6bz Рік тому

    I’d say if these guys were in history, onaga and shao would to run an empire. Kotal on the other hand, would take the cake in a republic with his diplomacy and strengthening worldwide relations or realm wide relations in the mk universe.

  • @deprepperonipizza4269
    @deprepperonipizza4269 2 місяці тому

    I will never shut up about how Kotal didn't even want to be kahn but became kahn to try to fix Outworld and how in the comics they show he's actively engaged seeking to provide the best quality of life for outworlders and even willing to go the Shokan by himself while fully aware they were gonna kill him but going anyways bc he knew the shokan would attack the city and their citizens to go get him in this essay I will-

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  2 місяці тому +2

      That's a glimpse of the true Kotal Kahn, the one NRS never give us.

  • @Kidapollo92
    @Kidapollo92 Рік тому +2

    I was like where is mileena and Sindel and then I was like oh let me shut up lol

  • @Gr1ff-1333
    @Gr1ff-1333 Рік тому +1

    You didn’t miss much with MK1. Spoilers ahead!:
    Lui Kang made Sindel + Jerrod ruler of outworld in his new timeline. Their rule was pretty alright, although there was an active revolution going on as confirmed by Kitana’s tower ending and Shao Kh- sorry, “General Shao’s” tower ending.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      Yeah, I already spoiled that Sindel dies, so I dunno what people expect me to say about her, as a ruler; seems like she didn't do anything. But I'll reserve judgement until I play the thing.

  • @rayzorduality2396
    @rayzorduality2396 11 місяців тому

    I miss Onaga. I hate we never got to see him on his prime before his death and resurrection...

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  11 місяців тому

      That's such a good idea for a spinoff, actually.

  • @montanat5274
    @montanat5274 7 місяців тому

    Glad to see that Mileena is in charge of outworld again. In the mk9 timeline she gets shit on but she wasn’t any worse than her father

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  7 місяців тому

      Yeah, it'd be interesting to explore what the female rulers can do, instead of endlessly deposing them.

  • @Scrubermensch
    @Scrubermensch 8 місяців тому

    Shao Kahn made outworld powerful. Kotal was a reform ruler, he tried to mend a kingdom last ruled by an emperor who didn't care for his people, also, among a civil war. Onaga however ruled for a lot of time and outworld was prosperous and wasn't a powerhungry rabid-ridden hound. Also he had an undefeatable army but didn't use it. Definitely the best but also the most powerful.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  8 місяців тому +1

      Especially when you put it like that, yeah. Onaga did have ideal conditions for ruling, I suppose, whereas Kotal had the worst, but even so, I think Onaga's pretty underrated, as a ruler.

  • @thepriorstone4064
    @thepriorstone4064 Рік тому

    What they did to Kotal was straight disrespectful, he never stood a chance as a character

  • @SomeRandomFeller
    @SomeRandomFeller 8 місяців тому +2

    Poor kitana kahn

  • @gabrielacevedo4645
    @gabrielacevedo4645 Рік тому

    I honestly like Onaga laissez faire approach to everything think the only time he ever went out of his way to deal with other realms was when he sent some dumb kid to do side quest for him.

  • @justoandres4951
    @justoandres4951 7 місяців тому

    Agree with most of these points, however at 2:18 I would like to add that not only did Shao Kahn managed to defeat Onaga and make it back to win Armageddon, but he shows absolutely no fear or respect to Onaga during the storymode ( And this was way before shao was protrayed as a brutish imbecile like in mk11) this to me points to the fact that by the time Onaga was resurrected for the battle of Armageddon Kahn had already surpassed him

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  7 місяців тому

      Which would make sense, since Shao has had eons to absorb realms and grow more powerful, since poisoning the dragon king.
      In my mind, though, I still like to imagine Shao defeating Onaga through wit and trickery, rather than raw strength. It befits him.

  • @tylercoon1791
    @tylercoon1791 11 місяців тому

    6:04 so you could say he…..played the long khan?

  • @Kain01able
    @Kain01able Рік тому

    Gonna need an update after you play MK1, think the reboot ruler has enough of a leg to stand.

  • @quintinjansevanvuuren9638
    @quintinjansevanvuuren9638 11 місяців тому

    Very common Shao Kahn W

  • @Redactedlad
    @Redactedlad Рік тому +3

    If I had to vote it would be Kotal to be honest, because all your points you presented make him an appealing ruler

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +4

      He deserved a better part to play, in MKX & 11, honestly.

  • @silverviper13
    @silverviper13 Рік тому +7

    Onaga>Shao Kahn>Mileena>Kitana>Kotal Kahn

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      Poor Kotal.. Given his actual portrayal in the games, hard to disagree.
      Don't think Mileena's a better ruler than Kitana.
      But Onaga might, indeed, deserve the no. 1 spot.

    • @silverviper13
      @silverviper13 Рік тому +3

      @@CynicalWarlock She lasted more than Kitana tbh and has been ruler of Outworld in every single timeline.
      Kitana is a great ruler for Edenia, not for Outworld.

    • @lordtrigon1733
      @lordtrigon1733 Рік тому

      @@silverviper13 Her "partnership" with Baraka was already showing cracks, Sheeva was easily convinced to go behind her back, her freaking army enthusiastically joined Shao and Sindel in an instant... "Kitana Kahn" failed spectacularly. 😬

  • @aleanddragonITA
    @aleanddragonITA 11 місяців тому

    Kotal loses extra points because in one of his Intro Dialogues is implied he cheated Jade with Dvorah
    WITH Dvorah

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  11 місяців тому

      I know; I think Kotal has some bugs in the system (pun intended). Someone at NetherRealm reaaally wanted a character to shit on.
      Thus, Kotal Kahn was born.

  • @mukohere
    @mukohere 4 місяці тому

    My vote is for... Kitana. Firstly, she's strong enough. She was able to beat the likes of Shao Kahn, Scorpion, and Shang Tsung. Secondly, she's diplomatic and can form alliances. She has recruited the Shokan in both timelines, united all of Outworld in MK11, and has always been allies with Earthrealm.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  2 місяці тому +1

      Her rule lasted about 3 seconds in either timeline.

  • @keemo5820
    @keemo5820 Рік тому +1

    Lacks the backbone......OK😂😂😂😂

  • @RandomMimikyu
    @RandomMimikyu Рік тому

    in mk1 we also didn’t see mileena’s rule yet
    maybe in the pt 2 dlc of the story it will show us

  • @ethanhamilton6392
    @ethanhamilton6392 Рік тому +1

    I think shao Kan is the better of the three, he just has a sort of raw power to him without seeming like a faceless bad guy. He also has a great design and looks like someone who would fight most of his battles

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +1

      And the mask adds a bit of mystique to him, as well. No underling may gaze upon the emperor's face. Very well-rounded character.

  • @adozub3366
    @adozub3366 Рік тому +5

    This whole thing is confusing to me. They said shao kahn is the ruler. Others say Herold is the ruler. Another group say kotal is the ruler. Some say onaga is the ruler and certain people say sindel is the ruler
    😕🤔

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      Who's Herold?

    • @omarslayz
      @omarslayz Рік тому

      you mean Jerrod?

    • @Nick-up5wv
      @Nick-up5wv Рік тому

      Sindel and Jarrod ruled over Edenia; not Outworld.

    • @omarslayz
      @omarslayz Рік тому

      @@Nick-up5wv they now rule outworld in mk1. they probably mean that

    • @Nick-up5wv
      @Nick-up5wv Рік тому

      @@omarslayz That's true. He hasn't played MK1 yet though, so I didn't want to include any spoilers.

  • @danielsawaked685
    @danielsawaked685 Рік тому

    Kinda sucks Kitana in mk11 was the first outworld ruler that wasn’t using fear and competition to control outworld and instead by unity and just had all of that thrown away by aftermath, like what was even the point of the outworld plot if they planned to rid all of its development in the dlc?

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      You could ask the same thing about the MK series, in general, at this point: what's the point of even having a plot anymore, if they're just gonna undo everything and start over with every new game?
      Kills the investment.

  • @petertracycarroll
    @petertracycarroll 8 місяців тому

    Man the ending of mk11 truly was wasted we could’ve had young Shao Kahn prime Onaga king gorback and a prime king jerrod

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  8 місяців тому

      Man that would've been sick. Have them plot and scheme against each other, then force them to work together.

  • @robertminnie782
    @robertminnie782 Рік тому +2

    Kotal could have been the besr of both worlds (glad you noticed how powerful he *should* theoretically be due to having three awesome sources of power, btw.) I think he should gave been Shao's equal in terms of power while rivalling the prosperity of Onaga'a rule, or perhaps eventually exceeding it through ko-operation with Earthrealm and being a gracious and kompetent ruler. Again, he had great potential until the writers started dunking on him-to an unnecessarily egregious degree imo.
    Of course, Shao Kahn will always be best Kahn, though. There can only be one. It really is impressive to me how deceptively kunning he is on top of his raw power (at least in the old timeline; he stupid-dumb in the NRS timeline.)
    And, though I don't know all the details about Onaga, it sounds like Outworld may have been a genuinely a better place when he was in charge. Not sure how long he was in power, but it could have been as long as Shao, or longer... unless the lore says Shao ruled the longest lol.
    P.S: Mileena Khan got an honorable mention, but not Kitana Kahn? D:

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +1

      Kitana ruled Outworld for a bit, in the old timeline, true; forgot about that. Didn't really get to see her rule, in MK11, and I haven't played MK1 yet, so.. there it is.
      And yeah, not only is Kotal this powerful, he is so, through natural talent and mastery, whereas Shao inflated himself with a bunch of souls and magics to get to where he is; doesn't change anything, but still thought I should mention it.
      And from the little info there is on Onaga, I think his rule may not have been so bad, yeah. Outworld was strong and unified. And not totally through fear or conquest.

    • @robertminnie782
      @robertminnie782 Рік тому

      @@CynicalWarlock Yeah, it would be nice to actually see how Kitana, Mileena and Sindel rule.
      After all, their fans already agree that they do, indeed, *rule.*

  • @ElegyWAV
    @ElegyWAV 4 місяці тому

    Death knight is another one but we don’t rly know anything about him. At most we know he was a Demi-god lol

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  4 місяці тому +1

      Not familiar with that one.

    • @ElegyWAV
      @ElegyWAV 4 місяці тому

      @@CynicalWarlock the beetle lair in mk deception says that death knight was the previous wielder of the thoraxe weapon and that he was a demi god who ruled outworld previously

  • @unseenentity1908
    @unseenentity1908 Рік тому

    It doesn’t matter if you haven’t played MK 1 yet, Sindel should still be on this list

    • @Nick-up5wv
      @Nick-up5wv Рік тому

      No because she only ruled over Edenia. She rules over Outworld now in MK1, but not much can be learned about her rule. He was smart NOT including her until he sees her rule for himself and can make a decent follow up.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  8 місяців тому

      A lot of rulers weren't on the list.

  • @Henry-iz7iv
    @Henry-iz7iv Рік тому +1

    Onaga will always be my favorite because NRS has yet to ruin him

  • @roanzanini5109
    @roanzanini5109 Рік тому +1

    Where is Sindel?

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      As I said, haven't played MK1, yet, so I can't rate her rule.

  • @JADub87
    @JADub87 Рік тому

    If we talking lore/popularity wise: Shao Khan
    Power wise: Onaga
    Politically wise: Kotal Khan in my opinion, he was the most fair.

  • @gurugru5958
    @gurugru5958 Рік тому

    I think youre my favorite MK UA-camr.
    Also, I vote Kotal. With more time on the throne, he could have easily overcome his weaknesses and been able to foster a stable outworld.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      Yes! Some love for Kotal. I agree, I think he should've been portrayed as more competent, to begin with.
      And I'm truly humbled, considering how many cool content creators there are, in this community.

    • @Nick-up5wv
      @Nick-up5wv Рік тому

      ​@@CynicalWarlock I liked Kotal, but NRS screwed the pooch and he was said pooch. I would have dome a NUMBER of different things with him; including having Kung Jin fight Devoriah first and fighting Kotal to ALMOST a draw, but Kotal stopping it almost immediately and declaring the fight as a no contest. I'd assume he would state he only wished to test Kung Jin's strength and through their brief fight he has demonstrated it and earned Kotal's respect. Also I would have had Kotal mop the floor up with Kung Jin during the woods chapter to prove he was holding back and could have easily defeated Kung Jin any time he wished. Also "blood magic" is his thing and also Nitara's why the hell did Shao Kahn teach Skarlet blood magic? It should have been Kotal and EVERYONE knows this. Also I would have had Kotal imprisoned for his failure in helping Shao Kahn invade Earthrealm during the events of MK3, but is freed after Shao Kahn dies.

  • @TheMcGrath2001
    @TheMcGrath2001 10 місяців тому

    All great Kahn’s on a side note Kotal is a ridiculously underrated character, so much potential there, shame the clowns at nrs don’t see it 🤦‍♂️

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  10 місяців тому

      So strange to make a character a laughing stock in his debut game.

  • @everia_games
    @everia_games Рік тому

    Yeah but what magic do they use?

    • @yeahboyz9314
      @yeahboyz9314 Рік тому

      Shao do use soul and blood magic but in the game he just punch really hard

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      That'll be it's own video, but in short, Onaga and Shao both use Soul magic, each in their own way (Onaga resurrects the dead, Shao consumed countless souls), Onaga also breathes fire, so that's.. uhm Fire, Shao uses Shadow shoulder charges, Fire/Force balls, he knows Blood magic (created/instructed Skarlet, probably uses it to enhance himself too), among other things.. Shao's a greedy bastard, he uses everything he can.
      And Kotal uses Blood, Fire (sun attacks) and probably Earth (totems).

  • @CallemJayNZ
    @CallemJayNZ Рік тому

    What about Kitana Kahn?

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      She ruled for 2 seconds in MK11, and off-screen, a bit, after MK3.
      Guess I should've mentioned her, but that's about it.

    • @yafriendsfriend
      @yafriendsfriend 8 місяців тому

      kitana lasted longer than mileena yet there was no mentioned... she would've ruled outworld like kotal and her parents (more like sindel) due to her being diplomatic and level headed

  • @jack0f4lltrades28
    @jack0f4lltrades28 Рік тому +1

    Just gunna answer before the video starts and say it's Shao Kahn. Dude held onto the throne without any uprising or rebellion and was doing a good job clapping other realm cheeks left and right.
    Onaga dominated through sheer power, and Kotal tried being diplomatic but had to deal with rebellions and traitors. Shao didn't just have the strength but the intelligence to deal with any rebellious behavior or power vacuums before they even began. There's a reason he's held onto the throne for so long.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      Pretty much what I go on to say, in the video.
      Shao Kahn wins by almost every objective metric.

  • @HEARTLESSKAMUI
    @HEARTLESSKAMUI 7 місяців тому

    Kitana. Next question.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  7 місяців тому

      No.

    • @HEARTLESSKAMUI
      @HEARTLESSKAMUI 7 місяців тому

      @@CynicalWarlock Is there any reasoning for that beyond sexism or...

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  7 місяців тому

      @@HEARTLESSKAMUI Other than her ruling for 2 seconds, compared to the others, and her only accomplishment being a failed attack against a recovering Shao Kahn's forces, no, totally no other reasoning.

  • @Spitfire-nm6ic
    @Spitfire-nm6ic 5 місяців тому

    Seeing this video kinda makes me wish we had a game with all 4 rulers in one game so we can have a real civil war in outworld and not that pathetic little rebellions we got in mk x and mk 1

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  5 місяців тому

      Yees. Setting that up believably is a bit tricky, but I'd love to see it.

    • @Spitfire-nm6ic
      @Spitfire-nm6ic 5 місяців тому

      @CynicalWarlock I think we could do it with the current timeline if they drop the titan crap now. It would need a new way to introduce kotal and onaga though, maybe make kotal into a replacement for general Shao after shao starts his rebellion, he could start calling himself Kahn and get more followers through subterfuge and convincing the public that the royal family are to blame. I don't have any idea for how to get onaga in the story for now

    • @CoolSaver
      @CoolSaver 5 місяців тому

      I remembered Armageddon, although it was kinda silly, but seeing Onaga- "EMPEROR ONAGA!" -and Shao Kahn in one room trying to cooperate was interesting

  • @parrisxsummers
    @parrisxsummers Рік тому

    Update when you play mk1!

  • @LiquorGang-m6g
    @LiquorGang-m6g 6 місяців тому

    Shao Kahn 💯👊

  • @michaelbell5
    @michaelbell5 4 місяці тому

    NetherRealm butchered how cool Kotal was when the story of MK 11 happened. In MKX he was actually pretty cool. It went downhill fast for him in MK 11. That really bothered me personally.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  4 місяці тому

      @@michaelbell5 He was a pretty incompetent coward in X, too.

  • @BloodElfB
    @BloodElfB Рік тому

    You haven’t played MK 1 yet?! Go enjoy it 😂

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      I'm scared.

    • @BloodElfB
      @BloodElfB Рік тому

      @@CynicalWarlock the kombat is fun and the story is interesting and pretty good in my opinion. You can definitely see the direction they want to go with future games….although I’m very curious what they will title it 😂.

  • @Purple_Moose
    @Purple_Moose Рік тому +1

    Narratively, I think Onaga is the weakest of the bunch. How he arrives in the story is uninspired, he’s just there to fill a void.
    Kotal had potential, BUT, the whole Jade betrayal thing was actually emotional for me. If that’s really all he gets to do as a character, that’s fine, I’d rather get to have those standout moments in the story.
    Shao is so well built inside of MK mythos even through MK1, that he’s cool and engaging and gets to continue to serve a purpose to all of the other characters is a testament to his longevity in the series. (Thank you for mentioning how they turned him into a buffoon before the reboot-sequel-boot though, my god. lol.)
    Very curious what you’ll make of MK1 after you dive in and digest it. How you’ll incorporate it into your videos.
    Anyway, big fan.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +1

      Yeah, hopefully MK1 won't give me indigestion.
      It's true - the way Onaga is introduced into the story is kinda meh, but I do think his backstory and what he adds to the mythology is pretty cool. Just wish they'd have expanded on it, a bit.
      Kotal is the most disrespected character, by the devs, by far. It used to be Reptile, but Kotal seems to have now surpassed even him.
      I really miss Shao's MK9 voice actor. The MK11 guy seems to have deliberately been picked and directed to sound like a dumb brute.

  • @alexsebastian7159
    @alexsebastian7159 Місяць тому

    you evidence point at shao being stronger than onaga since he killed him in armageddon i think at the past he was weaker than the dragon king but he power he won from absorbing outworld and edenia s live force along other lesser realms he ended up surpasing him

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Місяць тому

      I absolutely did not suggest that Shao was more powerful than Onaga; quite the contrary. Shao wouldn't have had to poison him, if that were the case. Yeah, after being emperor for millenia and absorbing as much power as he did, it's less clear, but even then, Armageddon's intro made it seem like Shao was the underdog, getting snatched and flown away by Onaga, so he a) MK9's intro makes little sense, and b) Shao probably used trickery to defeat or shake off Onaga the second time, as well.

    • @alexsebastian7159
      @alexsebastian7159 Місяць тому

      @@CynicalWarlock its hard to tell prime shao is a beast

  • @Cornyboa
    @Cornyboa 8 місяців тому

    just forgetting mileena, sindel and kitana

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  8 місяців тому

      One ruled for a nanosecond, another ruled mostly in-between games, and the third allowed her realm to be subjugated multiple times, so yeah, honorable mention at best.
      Plus, I had just covered those 3 characters in another video.

  • @mikearce7827
    @mikearce7827 Рік тому

    Onaga best MK boss hands down

  • @nd9814
    @nd9814 Рік тому

    What about Sindel, Kitana and Mileena? MK1 Sindel ruled Outworld for a long time and it looks in way better shape than it ever did before. I would definitely want to live under her rule than any of the others. Kitana would be good too, but she didn’t rule long. MK1 Mileena is TBD, MKX Mileena was obviously not great.

  • @Ancient_Tribesman
    @Ancient_Tribesman 2 місяці тому

    I'd give it to Onaga. Kotal was kinda reasonable & nice but weak, racist, & short sided. Shao was a great tactician, a strong leader but greedy, unnecessarily cruel, & arrogant.
    Onaga was the long-time ruler & Outworld was stable because of him. Even his invincible army is mostly just dead guys. This means a lot of life from his people weren't lost in his warring conflicts. The land was healthier. Onaga could also fairly defeat any of his opposition. Onaga was the strongest, the fairest, & had the best security for his people. While power hungry, Onaga mostly did his own dirty work unlike the others. If i was an Outworlder, Onaga is always getting my support, f*ck the other 2, they're too messy.

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  2 місяці тому +1

      Glad to see some Onii-chan love.
      Agree with everything, with the minor mention that his undefeatable army used to be living people that he would just resurrect en masse, when they died. They're only corpses by the time Quan Chi finds them, in Deadly Alliance.
      But yeah, it's a pretty tragic thing if you see it from Onaga's perspective, cause he was the most powerful, the most worthy, he handled his realm well, he didn't try to conquer other realms.. and his reward was getting backstabbed and killed. So he learned the wrong lesson and came back as a tyrant.

  • @Kidapollo92
    @Kidapollo92 Рік тому

    I’m sorry I’m late general let’s begin

  • @peanutslaughterisgreat
    @peanutslaughterisgreat Рік тому +3

    Kotal even though He’s a RACIST towards few/some Races….

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +2

      Eh, a bit a racism builds character.

    • @peanutslaughterisgreat
      @peanutslaughterisgreat Рік тому +1

      ⁠@@CynicalWarlock ironically Shao Kahn wasn’t a Racist towards said Races

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +1

      @@peanutslaughterisgreat Guess not. He just kept them poor and sent them off to conquer and die in his name.

    • @peanutslaughterisgreat
      @peanutslaughterisgreat Рік тому +1

      @@CynicalWarlock I Know Right!?

  • @TheIkranRider
    @TheIkranRider 7 місяців тому

    Kotal isn't like Obama, at least he didn't develop a lethal virus working with our enemies and thus causing a pandemic with no remorse!
    Anyway, nice video, but you forgot Kitana Kahn. And pleasing everyone can please no one but themselves and be a subscriber's tool. I already know a few well known UA-camrs in this regard! GrEeNsCoRpIoN!

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  7 місяців тому

      I didn't include Kitana or Mileena, because their rule was either brief or it happened offscreen. Wanted to focus on those who governed for a reasonable chunk of time and affected significant change.
      Not familiar with Green Scorpion.

  • @docker_java
    @docker_java Рік тому

    Wheres drahmin?

  • @silverviper13
    @silverviper13 Рік тому +2

    We know Mileena was a good Kahn cuz she ruled between MKD and MKA and she did a pretty good job

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +1

      Because she was posing as Kitana. In MKX, she wasn't.
      Also, I wouldn't call her rule in Deception "good", cause she basically worked to destroy the alliance between Edenia and Outworld that Kitana labored to build, up to that point.

    • @silverviper13
      @silverviper13 Рік тому +3

      @@CynicalWarlock She was posing but no one complained about her, she was really popular even with heroes like Bo'Rai Cho and Li Mei, people sacrificed themselves to save her from freaking Shao Kahn. They didn't do it for Kitana in MK11

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому +2

      ​@@silverviper13 Sure, but that's my point: she was good at duping people, not ruling them. We saw her untrammeled rule in MKX; but to be fair, these are 2 different versions of the character. So let's just say that Deception Mileena is more competent of a ruler than MKX Mileena - which is the version I was referencing in the video.

    • @Nick-up5wv
      @Nick-up5wv Рік тому

      ​@@CynicalWarlockI agree. Midway Mileena was more competent, but got taken out of power the moment Shao Kahn, Shang Tsung, and Goro raided/conquered the palace and Shao Kahn took his thrown back.

  • @Quantum_Comics
    @Quantum_Comics Рік тому +3

    Kk in a wheelchair

  • @ri_c_e
    @ri_c_e Рік тому

    I think if we were to powerscale youd have to take out allll of the outliers, problem being alot of characters are 50/50 on outliers. I also dont like the notion that all the characters are equal in power and can win any fight, not being equal in power and overcoming odds is much more cathartic and im a big dbz fan so 💀

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      That kind of catharsis is Earthrealm's mantra at this point, considering what kind of beings Earthrealmers have defeated. And even if you have an OG tournament where powers are prohibited, other realms still have the benefit of thousands of years more experience than the earhtlings, so it's pretty much never a fair fight.

    • @ri_c_e
      @ri_c_e Рік тому

      @@CynicalWarlock “oh yeah these guys are all equal in power”
      >trains for thousands of years.
      >trains for 20 years.
      It also deepens my admiration for liu kang whos insanely strong and gifted aswell as hardworking whos able to contend with people stronger than him and eventually even surpass them in power (unless this is NRS era i suppose)

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      @@ri_c_e Yeah, Liu Kang is MK's version of Captain America, except more powerful. It's admittedly tough to portray the goodie-2-shoes character well, which is why they keep turning Raiden into Dark Raiden, and Liu Kang into dead Liu Kang.

    • @ri_c_e
      @ri_c_e Рік тому

      @@CynicalWarlock specifically human Liu Kang in his intros in MKX is by far my favorite character. Hes snarky, banters some in alot of them but still has that honor-goodie twoshoes feel imo. I think they really nailed his intros well. Dark raiden is a cool idea in concept but he ends up becoming just bitchy raiden. I wanted to see a more "the ends justify the means raiden" it'd be cool if my favorite small time youtube mk channel did a vid on either of these :'), everyones enjoying the vids, keep up the good work if you end up seeing this reply. 👍

    • @CynicalWarlock
      @CynicalWarlock  Рік тому

      @@ri_c_e Noted.
      MKX, in general, nailed a lot of the intros. I hate that all of Cassie's personality is in the 1v1 intros, whereas in the story mode, she has the personality of a drywall.
      But I agree - that kind of "I'm obviously better than you, but I'll limit my trash talk to a bit of snark" approach is great for Liu Kang.
      As for Dark Raiden, I must admit I don't fully understand the obsession with that version of the character.
      But I'll look into both.