'Foreign agent' bill: Has it caused damage to Georgia's ties with the EU? | DW News

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  • In Georgia, the ruling party has dropped a controversial “foreign agent” bill following two nights of violent clashes between police and protesters.
    But despite the U-turn, thousands continue to rally in the capital Tblisi. They fear the government wants to put Georgia on a path towards authoritarianism - and away from its goal of joining the European Union.
    The draft echoed a Russian law used to silence critics - and protesters vow to resist what they call government attempts to drag the country back under the Kremlin’s influence. DW Correspondent Maria Katamadze is in Tbilisi
    Georgia formally applied for EU membership less than two weeks after the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Viola von Cramon in Brussels, is a member of the European Parliament for the German Green Party and brings in the European perspective.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 614

  • @sumiland6445
    @sumiland6445 Рік тому +154

    Stand up for your democracy, Georgians!! Stand together against fascism!!

    • @CHMichael
      @CHMichael Рік тому

      Fascism, communism, feudalism - even a democracies with enough misguided citizens can be oppressive.
      Stand against any oppressive leadership that doesn't respects basic rights like freedom of speech.

    • @pauchel.lozano26
      @pauchel.lozano26 Рік тому

      CIA can basically fund the entire media on every country to push their agenda. Western push for a unipolar world will be the end of this world.

    • @hasithakumarasiri8343
      @hasithakumarasiri8343 Рік тому +14

      Democracy 😂🤣

    • @ryanv2324
      @ryanv2324 Рік тому +1

      Reminder that fascism doesn't have a monopoly on authoritarianism......

    • @lovebaltazar4610
      @lovebaltazar4610 Рік тому +9

      @@hasithakumarasiri8343 Bot commenter playbook: anything associated with the west "🤣🤣😂".

  • @nicolasiden4074
    @nicolasiden4074 Рік тому +147

    Support for people of Georgia 🇺🇦❤️🇬🇪

    • @GOLDEN_ROGER118
      @GOLDEN_ROGER118 Рік тому

      The next 👉🇬🇪🐀 devastated by politics

    • @alphabogeyman7462
      @alphabogeyman7462 Рік тому

      When a foreign agents bill causes outrage, it shows a lot of the protesters ate literally foreign agents.

  • @janinewetzler5037
    @janinewetzler5037 Рік тому +18

    Protest signs in English, now that's for us, the Western viewers!! Cheers Georgia!!

  • @erikafinland2162
    @erikafinland2162 Рік тому +145

    ALL my respect and love to the integrity and determination of the Georgian people!!!!! THANK YOU for standing up for democracy in these difficult times!!!! ❤💫🕊 Erika, Finland

    • @jevgenijs39
      @jevgenijs39 Рік тому

      Will be turned in to second Ukraine

    • @DeePPurPleLemoN
      @DeePPurPleLemoN Рік тому +2

      @@pavelkazmin_rus naxui.

    • @Ptolemy336VV
      @Ptolemy336VV Рік тому +14

      ​@@pavelkazmin_rus democracy is more than 1000x better than ANY Authoritarian or dictatorship regime, for more than 1 million reasons.

    • @Hansulf
      @Hansulf Рік тому +3

      @@pavelkazmin_rus So what is the alternative?

    • @noidontthinksolol
      @noidontthinksolol Рік тому

      @@pavelkazmin_rus says the putler loving fascist 😂🤣

  • @Hansulf
    @Hansulf Рік тому +9

    So what did the bill say? I have to dislike this video... Not a single menction of what the bill is about, only a lot of sensationalism with the things like "People is getting ignored" and "Russia bad, russia is influencing". Very bad journalism.

  • @George.Andrews.
    @George.Andrews. Рік тому +7

    This is fantastic Georgia

  • @blackberryin1745
    @blackberryin1745 Рік тому +12

    Dear people of Georgia, Ukraine and Ukrainians are with you! You are great guys who don't stay silent, and most importantly, you act. I wish you great success in fighting for your rights, your freedom. 🇺🇦❤🇬🇪

    • @ReigniteAmerica
      @ReigniteAmerica Рік тому +1

      The funny part is that we has a foreign Agent law here in the USA.

    • @pomg6512
      @pomg6512 Рік тому

      Ukraine lost its freedom when it became a western puppet state. Now millions are dying because of the greed of Kyiv regime and Biden administration

  • @giorgi88987
    @giorgi88987 Рік тому +71

    I am here in Tbilisi taking part in this demonstration. Our Government is pro-Russian but they will be over soon. Georgian people will never be willing to get back to the USSR and we need stronger support from the EU. We had a devastating war with Russia in 2008 but the support we got was not enough. EU continued “business as usual” with Russia and didn’t support us as much as they could (same happened in Ukraine in 2014), which was a big mistake. It ended with frustration on pro-western government at the time, but people didn’t intentionally elect the pro-Russian party as they didn’t initially reveal themselves as pro-Russian. We help Ukrainian people in war, our soldiers fight there against Russia, 85 % of Georgians support pro-western perspective, we deserve to be the part of EU and NATO, but we have to do our homework first. That’s exactly what we are doing right here and right now.
    Glory to Georgia, Glory to Ukraine ✊🏻

    • @keithhehw4043
      @keithhehw4043 Рік тому +10

      Take care guys!

    • @rouz0
      @rouz0 Рік тому +9

      What part of this law was problematic? Can't u people ask goverment to use the equivalent of UK or USA law for registration of foriegn agents? It does remind me of 2104 Ukraine, but there USA was very active and even among protesters 😅

    • @battlebornsupermoto954
      @battlebornsupermoto954 Рік тому +6

      Perfect time to do it! Fight! And stay strong!

    • @gregkillam
      @gregkillam Рік тому +4

      I wouldn’t suggest opening fire on South Ossetia again.

    • @giorgi88987
      @giorgi88987 Рік тому

      @@rouz0 The draft law was designed to fight the NGO-s. The hidden objective was not to fight foreign adversaries but to weaken whole civil institutions, minimize “problems” in upcoming 2024 parliamentary elections and potentially rig it. As for your question, no, we can’t as nobody listens what we need. It is not Great Britain or the USA :)

  • @touchedbynature5445
    @touchedbynature5445 Рік тому +33

    The Brutal Agressive Force Of Russia, Has To Be Stopped. It Takes Courage To Hold On To Democracy And Freedom. Blessings To The Georgian People. 🇬🇧

    • @Dirtmiy
      @Dirtmiy Рік тому +6

      Even in the USA there is a law on foreign agents so that no one from the outside influences the minds of Americans, but in Georgia the law did not pass - it was possible to influence Georgia. It turns out that Georgia is a free country (without personal opinion), but there is no freedom in America?

    • @aban2423
      @aban2423 Рік тому +4

      ​@@Dirtmiy You will not hear this in the mainstream media.

    • @TotalllGaming
      @TotalllGaming Рік тому +4

      @@Dirtmiy Ok bot. Time to unplug your cable.

    • @bigfig5219
      @bigfig5219 Рік тому

      ​@@Dirtmiy the proposed Georgian law is not the same as the one in the US. The Russian Internet Army purposefully conflates the two.

    • @Silver_Prussian
      @Silver_Prussian Рік тому

      I had a cringe induced stroke reading this

  • @ANTheWhizkid
    @ANTheWhizkid Рік тому +23

    Always very amazed when grassroots grow. It lights the fire in my heart, when people do not always bear everything. In my own country the people had been conditioned so well, that nobody goes on the streets for things that would be important. People would have a bad conscience and be ashamed. By our public protesters are also more seen as asocial, not normal, enemies of the society and get treated like that from others who would even benefit. This is really bad. I try to believe that in the end the good will always have the upper hand over the evil. Also in Georgia

    • @Now_lets_get_this_straight
      @Now_lets_get_this_straight Рік тому

      This definitely has Putin’s stamp on this. They are wise to stay vigilant because to say that leaving it on the agenda to get voted down is the same as dropping it. That is a lie straight from the Kremlins play book. Thank God the Russians are busy with their military in Ukraine but they are still stirring up trouble in Moldova also and have plans for Belarus. Putin has to be stopped and now having a Warrant for his arrest by the ICC for war crimes will isolate him further and maybe give hope of the Russian military overthrowing him. He needs to be weakened because XI Jinping is coming to Russia for an official visit and now is a good time for China to coordinate an attack on the US prior to attacking Taiwan. Russia already feels that the war in Ukraine is an attack by the US. Unfortunately the arming of Ukraine is probably a attack by Nato because it’s clear to them if not stopped, Russia is going to continue “annexing” European countries next to it for “security” reasons.

  • @johnwalsh4857
    @johnwalsh4857 Рік тому +14

    this is not going to stop with dropping the bill, MAIDAN REVOLUTION IN GEORGIA From Vancouver Canada we are with a democratic Pro EU and NATO Georgia.

    • @tony16991
      @tony16991 Рік тому

      Isn't your prime minister getting wedgies from Xi? Don't bother. Canada is an embarrassment. Just call yourself American, all the funny people from Canada that I would care about is in America anyway.

  • @chuckkottke
    @chuckkottke Рік тому +43

    Hooray for the Georgian citizens! I'd be holding up that sign, "Never Back to the USSR" too if I were Georgian! Enough with these hard line authoritarian governments, we need freedom, democracy, rights, and fair elections everywhere.

    • @truegunner7223
      @truegunner7223 Рік тому

      The true representation of people is inside the parliament not on the streets ...historically most of the protests have been proved to be politically motivated and staged by vested interests or political opponents.

    • @aban2423
      @aban2423 Рік тому +3

      Do you think USA has all the basic rights, free elections and democracy the very things you are talking about.

    • @chuckkottke
      @chuckkottke Рік тому +6

      @@aban2423 Not exactly, but we're a work in progress as well. We do have good election processes, but often tainted officials running for office due to the influence of money. But we are working on campaign finance reform, we need to limit lobbying and influence peddling, and end the quid pro quo. We do have freedom of speech and of expression, but a press that's largely owned by a few owners, with one that's a particularly odious character. But you can speak freely, vote, presidents have term limits, and no former president is in prison being fed gruel. We here too need improvements in our rights, that goes without saying, but Georgians are trying to right a ship that is listing heavily, they're in a fight to save their democracy, or resurrect it.

    • @aban2423
      @aban2423 Рік тому +1

      @@chuckkottke But let me first ask you
      Why do you and other people out there always think that we need to speak freely. First of all why do you always need to think like that? You do not always need to speak up. There are certain countries I know of in middle East where people spoke up to an extent that they destroyed their own nation.

    • @George.Andrews.
      @George.Andrews. Рік тому +3

      @@aban2423 are you serious

  • @leosalas41ify
    @leosalas41ify Рік тому +6

    It's Now or Never, for yourself and future generations. Never give up the fight!
    God Bless from the United States. 🇺🇲

  • @TMM-N
    @TMM-N Рік тому +9

    Isnt that a good thing to increase transparency? They need to declare who is their financial donators?
    That is not “russian law” that is american law

    • @painterQjensen
      @painterQjensen Рік тому

      Not to the thousands of paid actors the us and allies has in Georgia. Do you never read the CIAS coup papers?

  • @markharcourt2214
    @markharcourt2214 Рік тому +5

    Why wouldn't you want to know where money is coming from. Particularly if it can influence a country or government
    Is the re something wrong with being open and transparent

    • @sH-ed5yf
      @sH-ed5yf Рік тому

      It is not only about that.
      If I am a establish a organisation observing election fraud or corruption.
      They could just Arrest me and call me a spy

    • @jirachi-wishmaker9242
      @jirachi-wishmaker9242 Рік тому

      @@sH-ed5yf It is not a *job* of 'established' Foreign entity to look over a nation's election

    • @markharcourt2214
      @markharcourt2214 Рік тому

      @@jirachi-wishmaker9242 Where does it say that is what they want to do.
      Its about registering , if more than a certain % of your money comes from outside of the country. Stop lying.

    • @jirachi-wishmaker9242
      @jirachi-wishmaker9242 Рік тому

      @@markharcourt2214 I agree with you
      I am responding to @s H
      He is claiming it might hinder US/EU sponsored entity to report 'biased' election

    • @gizoliparteliani4795
      @gizoliparteliani4795 Рік тому

      @@markharcourt2214 I'm assuming that you are not a Russian troll, so let me try to explain the context. If my assumption is right, then I'll also assume that since you commented under this video, you probably at least know that Russia has occupied 20% of Georgia and is opposing its sovereignty and freedom to choose its political course. This draft law, which fortunately failed, had nothing to do with openness and transparency, and it was completely irrelevant to initiate it in the current political situation. NGOs in Georgia are very transparent about where their funding is coming from, and this information is open to all. Many of them are funded by US and European donors. Moreover, government agencies receive funding from these same donors to implement different projects. Integration into EU and NATO, which is a choice of 80% of Georgian citizens, is a goal that is enshrined in the Constitution of Georgia, and so is the Government's obligation to do everything possible to achieve this goal. The Government is harshly criticized by pro-western Georgian NGOs and media because of insufficient effort for Euro-integration, advocating the interests of one oligarch rather than that of the people, and many other reasons. The point of this draft law was to exert control by the Government over these organizations and to try to discredit them by labeling them as "agents of foreign influence". Also, there is a parallel with what ultimately happened in Russia after the same law was adopted. The EU officials have sent a clear message that this law would not contribute to Georgia's Euro-integration. The Government would not heed and continued to sabotage the country's pro-western course, and only backed down because of massive street protests. The disappointment of the Georgians' resistance against this draft law expressed by Russian officials and media already says a lot. On the other hand, there are not so transparent organizations and political entities operating in Georgia spreading the pro-Kremlin narrative, and it would indeed be interesting to know where their money is coming from. But the Geo government does not seem to be too much concerned about them. Just on the contrary, it uses these radical groups to oppose pro-western organizations.

  • @ericyuen5946
    @ericyuen5946 Рік тому +34

    Another memory recall for me in this democratic movement, people born to be free. Support from a Hongkonger, even we got silence in the public. Fight for freedom.

    • @Scaleyback317
      @Scaleyback317 Рік тому +2

      Yes history has not been kind to the Hong Kong people. I'm British and just wish there was another way to have kept you all away from the CCCP safely.

    • @ericyuen5946
      @ericyuen5946 Рік тому +2

      @@Scaleyback317 CCP influences have already spread around the world, and their economic success didn't grow together with human rights or any making political changes. Technology advances help the totalitarian regime rule people, it is hard to imagine a free, vibrant, and trendy city turning like that. Honestly, Hong Kong is no longer Hong Kong, and it is turning into another China city. It is a wake-up call for all democratic countries. Freedom is not free.

    • @Scaleyback317
      @Scaleyback317 Рік тому +1

      @@ericyuen5946 Thank you for your candid reply. I am so sorry we had no other choice but to leave Hong Kong to its inevitable and foreseeable fate. It is not shame I feel - we had no other choice, it is just a deep sorrow and a sense of loss. I cannot begin to imagine how many Hong Kong folk feel about it. I wish you well because I have nothing else to offer you.

    • @ericyuen5946
      @ericyuen5946 Рік тому +1

      @@Scaleyback317 It is totally not your fault, and don't feel sorry about that. The fate of Hong Kong was determined by the former politicians, including the older generation in Hong Kong, they are the ones who enjoyed the success of the golden era of British Hong Kong, but did not treasure it. That’s why Ukrainians and Georgians are fighting for a better future for their future generations.

    • @PlaYer-sn5or
      @PlaYer-sn5or Рік тому

      Another riot coup, CIA and NED works.

  • @harryloo8544
    @harryloo8544 Рік тому +6

    Can someone explain how denying foreign agent's influence mainly from US/EU are authoritarian?

    • @fjuvo
      @fjuvo Рік тому +3

      EU money is tied to rule of law, so it reduces the authoritarian influence and increases democracy

    • @sollte1239
      @sollte1239 Рік тому

      I don't think there is much influence from US/EU....
      And young Georgians hate Russia (because Russia is occupieing a part of Georgia) and those people felt that the law is too similar to the law Russia introduced a year ago

  • @dellkickass
    @dellkickass Рік тому +11

    Freedom for Georgian from Vietnam 🇻🇳🤝🇬🇬🤝🇺🇦🧚‍♂️💪

  • @EdjieboaNova
    @EdjieboaNova Рік тому +34

    Good job Georgia 🇬🇪
    Seems rolling back the law and listening to the people speaks louder than the idea being proposed.
    The protestors are doing a good job and it appears their government is listening.
    That's how it's supposed to work.
    Love from Dallas, Texas 💙

    • @Anonnymouse53
      @Anonnymouse53 Рік тому +1

      They'll continue to try and roll this through on the QT.
      Fair play to the protesters though, they know what's at stake.

    • @jevgenijs39
      @jevgenijs39 Рік тому

      This will turn to second Ukraine

    • @aban2423
      @aban2423 Рік тому +3

      But it is very ironic coming from a Texan. You don't have this much amount of freedom in the US. If you were not happy with Joe Biden even if you protested there nothing would make him resign

    • @EdjieboaNova
      @EdjieboaNova Рік тому

      @@jevgenijs39 Georgia has already been invaded and suffers occupation.
      This is a good time for them to set themselves right for the coming generations.

    • @jevgenijs39
      @jevgenijs39 Рік тому +1

      @@EdjieboaNova how do they suffer?

  • @kindclaw6605
    @kindclaw6605 Рік тому +19

    People have the power 👏

  • @Zelenskytears
    @Zelenskytears Рік тому +7

    Georgian law on foreign agents is equal to the US law FARA

    • @Zelenskytears
      @Zelenskytears Рік тому +1

      @Mariami Dani In America, the law is worse. they put them in jail for 5 years.

  • @okropiri142
    @okropiri142 Рік тому +13

    The struggle that Georgia is going through now, and the fight that they have to win the second time is a result of western society's inability to protect Georgia from 2008 Russian aggression, and in fact denial and impotence against the threats Russia held against a new born democracies. This forced the current governing party to take a very careful, defensive and sometimes, "favoring Russia" stance in order to survive in this harsh environment. This of course can not be used as an excuse for the government but as for people, the western society is clearly to be blamed on the struggles of what the Georgian society is going through now. Closing eyes on Russia invading Georgia is exactly what motivated Putin to do the same in Ukraine. Impotence and delayed support is exactly the fuel Putin runs on. Georgia and Ukraine must be accepted in EU ASAP.

    • @Alex-lm1cj
      @Alex-lm1cj Рік тому

      Ha.Ha.Ha. Georgia is a failed state. You can't even rule yourselves without the USSR, EU or US.

    • @melburnian
      @melburnian Рік тому

      Good point! Western governments are famous at dithering on issues that are arbitrary to them until it hits close to home. We seem to be perfectly capable of inflicting harm on various countries around the world, but I'm not detracting from your point. I only wish we were involved in pro-democratic actions like these rather than the imperialistic garbage we get so often wrapped up in in the Middle East and Latin America. It makes us hypocrites.

    • @ludovicleprinceroyal8721
      @ludovicleprinceroyal8721 Рік тому +1

      Ukraine's acceptance into the EU would result in a direct military conflict with NATO and by default the United States. While acceptance would be great for Ukraine, it would be very antagonizing for Russia, they would have NATO forces at their front door.
      The United States objected to the same tactic when the former USSR tried to use Cuba as a missile base. While I myself am a US citizen, I can certainly understand Russia's concern. The alarming lack of diplomacy all around is reminiscent of the two great conflicts o the previous century.

    • @melburnian
      @melburnian Рік тому

      @@dim2389 Technically it's in Europe at least partly. Europe is divided from Asia (Iran) by the Caucasus Mountains.

  • @michaelallman8481
    @michaelallman8481 Рік тому +4

    Proud of you guys.

  • @16252
    @16252 Рік тому +2

    Interesting, thanks.

  • @7eventh
    @7eventh Рік тому +47

    Wish we’d see more Russians do this

    • @user-yj7um6hv1d
      @user-yj7um6hv1d Рік тому +1

      Do what? Protest in favor of joining snobbish white privilege club called the EU?

    • @proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
      @proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 Рік тому +11

      They're way too apathetic

    • @Anonnymouse53
      @Anonnymouse53 Рік тому

      Pretty tough to do when you can catch a 10+ year bid for simply for voicing that you disagree with the "SMO".
      The people still in Russia who know what's up aren't political and know that they are fine so long as they keep ignoring the situation.
      So long as Muscovites can go to work, provide for their family and switch off the TV, they'll sleep fine - just like we did when we went to war in Iraq over some phony baloney.

    • @ogamaniuk
      @ogamaniuk Рік тому +12

      Never. They're slaves.

    • @okropiri142
      @okropiri142 Рік тому +8

      what do you mean by more Russians? Georgians are not Russians and you should phrase your sentences more carefully

  • @Owen_loves_Butters
    @Owen_loves_Butters Рік тому +6

    Stay strong Georgians. Unity is a very powerful thing. It was definitely a huge mistake to ignore Georgia in 2008.

  • @beachfrogg
    @beachfrogg Рік тому +2

    Short memory 2003-2008

  • @mariacompayan7312
    @mariacompayan7312 Рік тому +12

    Well done to all clever and brave heart ❤Georgians for speaking out for the sake of peace for today and tomorrow 🙏🙏🙏❤️Communities with freedom and liberty has happy people who are free to experience and celebrate life within his/her country and abroad 🇬🇧🇵🇭

  • @IronWarrior86
    @IronWarrior86 Рік тому +17

    I remember when Georgia started the war back in 08 opening with a massive rocket artillery barrage on the ethnic Russian civilian residents of Tskinvali ruthlessly destroying the main town of South Ossetia slaughtering hundreds of innocent people. Then it was like seeing angels coming from heaven when Russian federation armed forces went through the Roki tunnel and smashed the Georgian troops chasing them out. They were infact too lenient, they should have taken the tiny remaining trip to Tbilisi and ended the mad dog tie-eating Shakashvili once and for all.

    • @javanava8925
      @javanava8925 Рік тому

      I am against the civilians targets but their military operation was justified!!! Their land inside Georgian international recognized borders! And Russian military operation is inside Ukraine's borders. Learn the difference. But you're probably Russian.

    • @IronWarrior86
      @IronWarrior86 Рік тому +3

      @@javanava8925I'm not Russian. Georgia lost the right to rule South Ossetia the moment it began a genocide on its own citizens. Russia has an obligation to protect ethnic Russians in neighbouring countries.

  • @eg8343
    @eg8343 Рік тому +3

    This just says how georgians dislike Russian. People of Russia should think why their country being dislike by their neighnors.

  • @yuriisydorchuk436
    @yuriisydorchuk436 Рік тому +6

    Glory to Georgia!

  • @Mike_lis
    @Mike_lis Рік тому +2

    So people voted in party who said that it is pro-EU in words but turned not that it is not pro-EU in works?

  • @guncreep9905
    @guncreep9905 Рік тому +5

    It's when I see what happens, in this authoritarian countries, that I really see how lucky I am, to be born in Germany and now live in France, where we have democracy !😱
    Btw Bonjour de France les amis and take care of you guys ✌😉👍🇫🇷

  • @lukelokasf3510
    @lukelokasf3510 Рік тому +5

    Does the US law allowed political parties sponsored by foreign agents?
    The US is doing the same to Georgia just like it did Ukraine in 2014, Georgia may have similar fate to Ukraine, think about it

  • @user-wz5ud4mn4y
    @user-wz5ud4mn4y Рік тому +4

    I think this is a good law. All it does it alert people to who is funding news agencies

    • @geoguy29
      @geoguy29 Рік тому

      It is already known. This law targets civil society and government can use it against whom they want, when they want. There is no protection for many organizations without democratic institutions.

    • @yagsipcc287
      @yagsipcc287 7 місяців тому

      @@geoguy29 Hahaha no most countries and all Western countires have these laws. Its about reducing foreign interference as much as you can, tacking where money is coming from and too. The NGOs dont like these laws for a reason ha

    • @geoguy29
      @geoguy29 7 місяців тому

      @@yagsipcc287 obviously you didn’t read this law. It’s the Russian version of the law. If you don’t see the difference, then you must be supporting Russia.

    • @yagsipcc287
      @yagsipcc287 7 місяців тому

      @@geoguy29 haha clearly you don't know anything about foreign agent laws also "Russia's version" is the same as the US version and very similar to most if not all European countries 🤣🤣 maybe learn about the same subject. The whole thing here about the "protests" were very inorganic done by NGOs very common (in my country we might have the most NGOs per population % to almost everywhere else) the "Protests" also does off very fast common with NGO set ups. EU and US didn't like these laws as they have alot of their guys in there set up as NGOs and other groups. Same bs different day.

    • @geoguy29
      @geoguy29 7 місяців тому

      @@yagsipcc287 sorry, I think you don’t make any sense.

  • @OrcsGoBackToMordor
    @OrcsGoBackToMordor Рік тому +7

    Get that party out of power!

    • @OrcsGoBackToMordor
      @OrcsGoBackToMordor Рік тому

      @vix altaris monumentum monstrantum that's what I said bub.

  • @elilammers3645
    @elilammers3645 Рік тому +1

    the disrupter ME.. IM BACK

  • @suco2922
    @suco2922 Рік тому +6

    This is no accident. How many coups did the CIA organize? The last one was in Ukraine, we can see the result now. Oliver Stone, The Oscar winner, "Ukraine on fire" recommanded!

    • @sollte1239
      @sollte1239 Рік тому

      The US is not interested in Georgia

    • @painterQjensen
      @painterQjensen Рік тому

      The last CIA coup, was not in Ukraine, that coup was 9 years ago.

  • @Teak701
    @Teak701 Рік тому +3

    Maidan II

  • @gratisenvoorniks5926
    @gratisenvoorniks5926 Рік тому +4

    So let me get this straight: the EU is against a bill that would oblige parties to disclose if they are foreign funded?

    • @tayler2396
      @tayler2396 Рік тому

      You still aren't getting it straight. Maybe you should just give up and play in your own league.

    • @sollte1239
      @sollte1239 Рік тому

      Please show me the proof that the EU said that

  • @jirachi-wishmaker9242
    @jirachi-wishmaker9242 Рік тому +5

    Looks like EU "NGOs" were working fulltime
    I also hope it cuts unregulated secretive funding of EU or Russia.

    • @fjuvo
      @fjuvo Рік тому +1

      EU funding is tied to the rule of law and is strictly for infrastructure. The Russian money goes directly to the politicians pockets

    • @sollte1239
      @sollte1239 Рік тому

      So please tell me the names of EU NGOs working in Georgia.....

  • @joseluis-mv8bu
    @joseluis-mv8bu Рік тому +5

    Never back to THE KGB URSS

  • @matsfrommusic
    @matsfrommusic Рік тому +25

    It has been such a long and truly sad time the last hundred years where Russia is to blame for a lot of horrific behaviors. The leaders of the free western world clearly hasn't done enough, just like some odd 80 years ago. I'm kind of amazed though how ignorant the Russians are of the their past and even today. How can they be so confused about why the world seems to be againts them.

    • @aresnir2725
      @aresnir2725 Рік тому +1

      What it have to do with Russia?

    • @matsfrommusic
      @matsfrommusic Рік тому +15

      @@aresnir2725 There you go, You're a prime example.

    • @matsfrommusic
      @matsfrommusic Рік тому

      @@sergueivergounov1961 Nop

    • @aresnir2725
      @aresnir2725 Рік тому +2

      @@matsfrommusic example of what? I'm just commenting on UA-cam.

    • @rouz0
      @rouz0 Рік тому +4

      What are u talking about Mr. agent? 😂The law literally exist in most EU countries and USA. If they don't like it and think it is Russian , they can just pass the full USA version of it 😅 it is important that a transparency law exist. They can even get help from EU to adopt law of one of those countries

  • @hexbinoban6170
    @hexbinoban6170 Рік тому +4

    this same kind of protest happened in ukraine a few years ago, and see what state the country is in now.
    Ukraine is 302% larger than Georgia and has 34 Million More inhabitants.

    • @sollte1239
      @sollte1239 Рік тому

      Russia is already occupying a part of Georgia.

  • @andyontheinternet5777
    @andyontheinternet5777 Рік тому +7

    Again I'm totally confused... wouldn't this law require all Russian sponsored media to register as foreign agents as well as all the western media? Isn't this more government transparency and not less? There is a lot not being explained here.

    • @fjuvo
      @fjuvo Рік тому +1

      Russian money often isn’t registered anywhere and goes directly to politicians pockets, so it won’t be registered. In practice only the EU will have to register

    • @andyontheinternet5777
      @andyontheinternet5777 Рік тому +1

      @@fjuvo Well... I'm sure a lot of Russian money is shady. The entire eastern bloc is badly corrupt and Russia might be the worst of them. That being said, western countries sure know how to sneak money around as well. Honestly, this seems like the west is meddling in Georgia's politics and the Russian leaning people don't like it. Sucks for both sides really... they are living in no man's land.

    • @sollte1239
      @sollte1239 Рік тому +1

      I think it mainly reminded Georgians too much of the Russian law.

    • @lorainejones41
      @lorainejones41 Рік тому

      It's the exact copy of the USA law. Hong Kong riots. These rioters will destroy Georgia.

    • @painterQjensen
      @painterQjensen Рік тому

      You are on a pro us probaganda channel. They lie, people die.

  • @thesisLAx
    @thesisLAx Рік тому +10

    It’s been dropped so the EU had a warning but should remain open-minded to Georgia.

    • @Lorenz1973
      @Lorenz1973 Рік тому +1

      No understanding of the EU membership pathway or the EU. Georgian politicians playing these games will lead to Georgia not joining the EU… and that is the intention. Joining the EU is a process of cooperation and negotiations - working together … and not pretending or actually playing games. If a country behaves like this during the process, other EU vote against them joining. However, that is probably the intention of these pro-Russian politicians (bought by a single oligarch)…

    • @frcluc
      @frcluc Рік тому

      Georgians are far from being Europeans. They are still very religious and bigoted.

  • @peterjensen3076
    @peterjensen3076 Рік тому +9

    How come Georgia's law against foreign interference is a problem? In the US they have similar laws.
    It seems that more than 60 NGO's in Georgia have said that they will not respect a law against foreign interference through NGO-channels. That could indicate that many of them have more than 20% of their funding coming from abroad. Not exactly 'democracy' built by the people it self.

    • @20quid
      @20quid Рік тому +3

      They don't have similar laws in the US

    • @jirachi-wishmaker9242
      @jirachi-wishmaker9242 Рік тому +5

      @@20quid FARA(Foreign Agents Registration Act) made in US

    • @thomasov2004
      @thomasov2004 Рік тому +3

      What has the US got to do with this? It's about Europe and Georgia.

    • @madselmvig1457
      @madselmvig1457 Рік тому

      @@jirachi-wishmaker9242 If you think FARA is in any way similar, you need to learn how to read and not just listen to trolls. FARA is for lobbyists that act on BEHALF of a foreign government.

    • @adoatero5129
      @adoatero5129 Рік тому

      @@jirachi-wishmaker9242 - "ARA(Foreign Agents Registration Act) made in US"
      If you actually read the US law, you see that it's clearly different.

  • @mrjerzheel
    @mrjerzheel Рік тому +5

    Georgians dont mind foreign interference as long as its US and Europe doing it

    • @user-ct7mw9yu6n
      @user-ct7mw9yu6n Рік тому +2

      Well after what Russia did to them in 2008 maybe yes

  • @SpazzyMcGee1337
    @SpazzyMcGee1337 Рік тому

    Don't understand. If most of the Georgian people are pro EU then why don't they vote in representatives that are pro EU?

  • @bhaashatepe5234
    @bhaashatepe5234 Рік тому

    The US Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) was enacted in 1938. FARA requires certain agents of foreign principals who are engaged in political activities or other activities specified under the statute to make periodic public disclosure of their relationship with the foreign principal, as well as activities, receipts and disbursements in support of those activities. Disclosure of the required information facilitates evaluation by the government and the American people of the activities of such persons in light of their function as foreign agents. The FARA Unit of the Counterintelligence and Export Control Section (CES) in the National Security Division (NSD) is responsible for the administration and enforcement of FARA.

  • @vadersnipes378
    @vadersnipes378 Рік тому +1

    Funny how the USA has the exact same law

  • @Checkthisontube
    @Checkthisontube Рік тому

    I lose my faith in democracy day by day considering the stupidity of our population.
    I don't see what would be wrong by only tracking foreign interest groups and influences in your country.
    The US has a similar law since 1938 no one talks there about authoritarianism.

  • @marshallmintz7564
    @marshallmintz7564 Рік тому

    No.....please do not mix the Georgian Government up with the people of Georgia......surely you watched the protests......this is the Tblisi Spring.......and it WILL be the end of the Russian rule in Georgia.........It does not mean Georgia cannot have relations with Russia but there is no reason for them to not have relations with EU as well. Let Georgians decide on all that.

  • @edgardodiaz4521
    @edgardodiaz4521 Рік тому +4

    End Corruption in Georgia 🇬🇪 and
    Ukraine 🇺🇦 Power-to-the-People 👏👏👏

  • @fishybusinessco.8398
    @fishybusinessco.8398 Рік тому +5

    Well glory to George all ❤

  • @Scaleyback317
    @Scaleyback317 Рік тому +2

    How many times do we have to go through this before those in charge realize they are only there because the people tolerate them being there - that's how true democracies struggle to be born. Russia is the exception to this and just about any other norm set by society - they have no grasp of the notion of democracy unless it can be enforced by a couple of dozen T72's of course. I hope democracy prevails and those at the head of the Georgian government (no matter how temporarily) do not lead this down the authoritarian path - it has never ended well.

    • @Silver_Prussian
      @Silver_Prussian Рік тому

      When every norm set by these ,,civilised" societies is bullsh*t ofcourse the russian will not act according to said norms

  • @kopeducati
    @kopeducati Рік тому +3

    With Poland and especially Hungary going autocratic , the last thing EU needs is another money pit with dubious political insights..

    • @fjuvo
      @fjuvo Рік тому +3

      The ruling party had almost the same ideals as Poland and Hungary: anti-LGBT and exploit EU for what’s worth, while the electorate is broadly pro-EU. Hopefully in the next election in 2024 things will change

    • @northern_soul
      @northern_soul Рік тому +1

      Poland is the most pro-EU society in Europe with over 80% supporting EU. the government ‘s actions do not reflect the society. Many youngsters in Poland did not vote in the last elections which resulted in a right wing party getting into power. Hopefully this will be a lesson for next elections.

    • @kopeducati
      @kopeducati Рік тому

      @@northern_soul hopefully ... but strong stance on UA will probably lift their "strong leadership" standing ?

    • @kopeducati
      @kopeducati Рік тому

      @Val Perry Coniservative ? I am no leftie but gay free regions? Really? You may be conservative, but you get autocratic when you start fiddling with media and justice.. Hungary is even further down that road..

    • @kopeducati
      @kopeducati Рік тому

      @Val Perry you can know if you want to know..

  • @patrickchapman5133
    @patrickchapman5133 Рік тому +1

    The Georgian people deserve fairer representation - representation of the people by the people!

  • @dedyzee
    @dedyzee Рік тому +4

    America has laws like that too

    • @sH-ed5yf
      @sH-ed5yf Рік тому +1

      Nope

    • @lorainejones41
      @lorainejones41 Рік тому

      You go to jail if you violate Fara in USA and the Patriot act is the most constricting on the planet. I know because I live here.

  • @krishnachaitanya1220
    @krishnachaitanya1220 Рік тому +1

    Anyone who thinks it's undemocratic please see this and give your thoughts...The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) (22 U.S.C. § 611 et seq.) is a United States law that imposes public disclosure obligations on persons representing foreign interests. It requires "foreign agents"-defined as individuals or entities engaged in domestic lobbying or advocacy for foreign governments, organizations, or persons ("foreign principals")-to register with the Department of Justice (DOJ) and disclose their relationship, activities, and related financial compensation.

  • @rachelgates509
    @rachelgates509 Рік тому

    I thought they ALREADY received official candidate status for the EU?

    • @fjuvo
      @fjuvo Рік тому +2

      Their status was rejected. Giving the candidate status without any will to change from the ruling party sets a wrong precedent. Georgia will receive candidate status after necessary reforms (which the ruling party don’t want to do). After the next election in 2024 things might change.

    • @rachelgates509
      @rachelgates509 Рік тому

      Well then Wikipedia needs to be fixed!!

  • @louistan7560
    @louistan7560 Рік тому +1

    What EU? Better leave the Titanic before it hits the iceberg. Many will drown.

  • @duncansmith7562
    @duncansmith7562 Рік тому +5

    No, the draft does not imitate a Russian law. It imitates an American law, but nearly all countries have similar laws, where foreign entities contributing to NGO's must declare their contributions. Nothing particularly Russian about that idea.

  • @allakolosova2986
    @allakolosova2986 Рік тому

    And exactly the same law in the United States, from which Georgia copied everything, damages relations between the EU and the United States?

  • @brigodoro
    @brigodoro Рік тому +4

    Long live to Sakartvelo!!!!!

  • @dorinvoicu1040
    @dorinvoicu1040 Рік тому +3

    That`s how democracy is made.

    • @jirachi-wishmaker9242
      @jirachi-wishmaker9242 Рік тому +1

      No
      Foreign agent bill clearly stop unregulated funding for unidentified group(NGO) by Foreign Nations

  • @Moveton
    @Moveton Рік тому +5

    Washington did not allow Georgia to become sovereign.
    The theory of American exceptionalism is that only the United States has the right to make independent decisions, and all others should exist according to the rules dictated by Washington.

  • @reggieprotacio208
    @reggieprotacio208 Рік тому

    WW1 and WW2 the same starts at EU... Thats history.

  • @olusegunjuba5142
    @olusegunjuba5142 Рік тому +2

    Fingerprint of Russian evil everywhere.

  • @user-du3gu2nm4q
    @user-du3gu2nm4q Рік тому

    格鲁吉亚距离德国有三千多公里

  • @Hollywood041
    @Hollywood041 Рік тому

    Hahahaha. It was such a dumb proposal. This is not going to harm Tbilisi's efforts to work with the EU. If it had passed and gone into effect and the people were protesting it then maybe. But the protests happened before it was voted on, and the govt recognized the will of the people.

  • @BrokenHill56
    @BrokenHill56 Рік тому +1

    Slava Georgia

  • @geoguy29
    @geoguy29 Рік тому

    We will vote the government out of the parliament soon forever! We have many difficulties and long way to go but the will of Georgian people will win unlike Russia.

  • @proselytizingorthodoxpente8304

    Compare that to the apathy in Russia

  • @alphacentauri7381
    @alphacentauri7381 Рік тому +6

    Ruski fails again 😂

  • @grantcanty7294
    @grantcanty7294 Рік тому +2

    genuinely curious, but what is the bill and what were the consequences of it being passed? i don't feel like they really talked about what the bill was trying to pass and its effects

    • @jacobrandall4891
      @jacobrandall4891 Рік тому

      did you watch the video?

    • @khoivo7947
      @khoivo7947 Рік тому +2

      The bill would help government officials silence NGOs and news agencies who depended on foreign investments. The bill would not be controversial if it also included politicians who receive foreign backing but it didn't.

    • @tony16991
      @tony16991 Рік тому +3

      @@khoivo7947 Thats good. What self-respectful country allows foreign funding in media and NGO without declaring them to the regulators? That seems like a recipe for disaster.

    • @jirachi-wishmaker9242
      @jirachi-wishmaker9242 Рік тому

      @@khoivo7947 why do you want foreign influence in your media & elections?
      No hidden funding from anyone be it US/EU or Russia.

    • @xangry2834
      @xangry2834 Рік тому +1

      @@tony16991 its only allowed for superpowers to do that. not tiny countries.

  • @au3264
    @au3264 Рік тому

    If Georgian Dream is not georgian's dream, then why are they the ruling party?

  • @panchocacho6663
    @panchocacho6663 Рік тому +1

    Power to the people 🕊️🕊️🕊️

  • @nevashgabber8683
    @nevashgabber8683 Рік тому +1

    cookies from nuland

  • @vonwagner8
    @vonwagner8 Рік тому +1

    Do people not realize that if you are supporting these protests, you are not supporting freedom...but you are supporting certain foreign groups around the world to sponsor and fund all types of activities that can destablize the country, economy, and government. And this law first started under the US in 1938, not Russia. By right if anyone supports Georgia's freedom, they should support this law because this law will show all foreign agents who will try to spark any destabilization attempts in Georgia. This just confirms that anyone who supports these protests is obviously a complete wackjob who thinks he knows everything but does not.

  • @chalmerscharitycrouse7834
    @chalmerscharitycrouse7834 Рік тому

    Comment 75: Difference of 3:33.
    6:35 pm CST
    March 9, 2023
    Charity Colleen Crouse

  • @jazy3091
    @jazy3091 Рік тому

    Based Georgians!

  • @richardandersen5813
    @richardandersen5813 Рік тому +17

    Why was the label as ‘foreign agent’ a bad thing? Did it also remove some rights ? I mean a 20% founding from a foreign power is potentially bad thing, that’s a lot of control or influence of your party/company. Wish the UK made it clear who was getting such funding.

    • @user-gw1gl4by8d
      @user-gw1gl4by8d Рік тому

      That working in russia another way boy. I can send you a 1 dollar from abroad and u are "foreign agent" so shut a f up, u dont even know what are u talking about

    • @isaacramirez3659
      @isaacramirez3659 Рік тому +2

      Yo put it simply, the "peaceful" protestors are the foreign agents.

    • @secularsekai8910
      @secularsekai8910 Рік тому +1

      It’s because it prevents other nations from delivering economic sponsorship to pro-Western NGOs.
      Russia is right next door, so regardless of what the law says or doesn’t say, Russian money will pour into he country.
      If this law had been passed, then it would have been easy for Russia to take control of nearly all of Georgia’s economy and influence crackdowns on what conservatives there consider “immoral” organizations-like LGBT rights groups.
      Georgia will join the EU 🇬🇪🇪🇺
      And Putin is a fool.

    • @rikhughes6452
      @rikhughes6452 Рік тому +4

      You don't understand you must go away and study it

    • @aximilian15
      @aximilian15 Рік тому +2

      It is the law that Putin passed to suppress his people.

  • @elizabethzandukeli7773
    @elizabethzandukeli7773 Рік тому

    So for people who ask "So, it's a good thing if foreign agents have to register in the US, but it's a bad thing if other countries want to do the same thing?" answer: US is different kind of a country. Our country is different. every law should be designed specifically for society and country. laws that work for USA, don't work or aren't needed in other countries. Especially when country's government can't or won't execute it right. we have seen this same law working in Russia, and it resulted in shut down of free media and basically tyranny there. we know that this law won't be executed right here. It's very hard to explain fully what's going on in our country and sadly my English isn't very good to do so, but to be put in easy words: our government, opposition, and basically every politician are very bad people and done very bad things, right now we have Bidzina Ivanishvili ruling the country like it's his own land, he's an oligarch who got his money from Russia, Our third president, Mikheil Saakashvili who was in power before him was also tyrannical, he put people in prision for opposing and tortured them, and before that in 90's we had Eduard Shevardnadze who before that was soviet union's Minister of Foreign Affairs, in his time Georgia was at it's worst, we call it dark 90's, with no electricity, no roads, no nothing actually. the three of them put on a show to put each other in power, fooled Georgian citizens and promised to make Georgia a better country but obviously lied. Now every politician make sure that new political power won't rise here, corruption is at It's best and people are very poor, we have been very divided as a society. people got tired of poverty, of wars, of politicians lying over and over, we don't know who to trust anymore. people have been beaten up for protesting over and over, it's been "divide and rule" basically. What happened couple of days ago is actually a first win against them in a long time, they didn't think we wouldn't get afraid, that we would fight and be as one, because they didn't see it coming from young people who are 13-22 years old and when it comes to their children adults will fight too, even if they're afraid. so that's what happened. government didn't think that we would not leave even if they did their best, and they did their best, if they used more force, they realized that people would get angrier and overthrow them and Europe and US would put sanctions against them so they stopped. Occupation of Abkhazia in 1992-1993 and Samachablo in 2008 by Russia to make sure that we would not be able to join NATO (they did same thing to Ukraine) also has to be mentioned here, and before that soviet union and Russian empire and all that history. which is so long i can't write it here. So this law was something that would make us closer to Russia and far from Europe, and we can't let that happen.

  • @andyfr4072
    @andyfr4072 Рік тому

    Almost half Georgia is already occupied by Russia they don’t want belong to Russia let them decide don’t interfere…

  • @ssb1056
    @ssb1056 Рік тому

    Wait! The ruling party os not part of the presidency?

  • @grawakendream8980
    @grawakendream8980 Рік тому +2

    would be great if the spirit of freedom sweeps down into the russian steppe tbh

  • @walkerrowe9534
    @walkerrowe9534 Рік тому +3

    Keep going Georgia people. The USA will support you.

    • @jevgenijs39
      @jevgenijs39 Рік тому +5

      Everyone who you support have a war after

    • @sollte1239
      @sollte1239 Рік тому

      US is not interested in Georgia

    • @jevgenijs39
      @jevgenijs39 Рік тому

      @@sollte1239 how do you know?

  • @mariasugino8873
    @mariasugino8873 Рік тому +1

    Please to anyone saying America has the same exact law, then what about the same law in Russia that took a turn for worse? The name may be the same however there are key differences in how someone is accused of being foreign agent. While American law is detailed and shows the goal that it's for security measures, there is no exact goal for the Georgian draft while also having definition of the 'foreign agent' blurry to the point that anyone can be accused of being an agent. It's clearly not for transparency measures. If it were so, then our first goal should have been limiting Russia's influence, which is far from what we see...

    • @jirachi-wishmaker9242
      @jirachi-wishmaker9242 Рік тому

      Yeah 'security' measures Okay
      US law is as blurry as this one.
      Because it's a Ctrl C + Ctrl V

    • @jirachi-wishmaker9242
      @jirachi-wishmaker9242 Рік тому +1

      It's quiet evident which foreign bodies are more angry about the law.

  • @makemake5400
    @makemake5400 5 днів тому

    愛子 hates Georgia

  • @duncansmith7562
    @duncansmith7562 Рік тому +2

    Georgia going down the EU path of having less transparency in NGO's in the country.

  • @netizencapet
    @netizencapet Рік тому

    What they need is a new party not just a massive protest.

  • @vaskodimoski5690
    @vaskodimoski5690 Рік тому +6

    The US has the same type of bill what's the problem the people need to know where the money comes from

    • @TemoMachitidze
      @TemoMachitidze Рік тому +2

      We do know where the money comes from, everything is already transparent and there is no need of extra laws for that.
      Also it doesn’t really matter what US has while the entire system of the US is completely different. In the US precedent refers to a court decision that is considered as authority for deciding subsequent cases. Neither Georgia nor any other European country works like this, here court just follows the law however it already is defined.

    • @lorainejones41
      @lorainejones41 Рік тому

      ​@@TemoMachitidze you lie about my country have you ever been tried in USA under Fara or put in gitmo under the Patriot act. You know fairytale Hollywood USA not what is real as a USA citizen.

  • @Balmorax
    @Balmorax Рік тому +2

    You get a membership in the EU! And you get a membership in the EU! Everyone get the membership in the EU!

  • @MartinNooneFRIAI
    @MartinNooneFRIAI Рік тому

    Bravo Democratic Georgians....

  • @yam2050
    @yam2050 Рік тому +1

    The fkn question mark.
    Good now those Georgians will never know if Russia is pouring money in Georgian parliament and NGOs.

  • @jesusaguilar4585
    @jesusaguilar4585 Рік тому +11

    This "Russian law" is similar to the Foreign Agency Registration Act of my country of the United States of America. A lot of nations around the world have laws similar as well. It's pretty much transparency as it tells the citizens where the funding of NGOs, universities, news outlets and means of information come from. An example of the US is that news correspondents are based in the US from the Russian news outlet, RT had to register as "foreign agents" and the same applied to the Chinese media outlets.

    • @rouz0
      @rouz0 Рік тому +8

      Thank u for clarifying this 😅 apearently sombody has told people it prevent them from entering EU 😂

    • @gadashendit
      @gadashendit Рік тому

      Nice try 🤡 now go to your owner mr.kgb vodka! 💩

    • @TheTomexification
      @TheTomexification Рік тому +8

      The US is a mature democracy with all checks and balances, this law in these countries can be used for everything. And I doubt it's the same law as the one in the US, you are just parroting the russian trolls.

    • @jesusaguilar4585
      @jesusaguilar4585 Рік тому +1

      @@TheTomexification I didn't say it's the same thing. I said it's similar. But you're right, all laws can be used for other means and this isn't exclusive to Russia, Georgia or any other "Bad Guy" country. The US does it with the Espionage Act as it goes after journalists instead of people working for other countries, i.e spying.

    • @rouz0
      @rouz0 Рік тому +2

      @@TheTomexification they should have a law for transparency. Maybe EU should help them to adopt a law simmillar to UK or one of the European countries regarding foriegn agents and funding

  • @McCov1
    @McCov1 Рік тому +1

    Next. Moscow , Spring 2023.

  • @m.walther6434
    @m.walther6434 Рік тому +2

    The Russian World will not give up it's former colonies.

  • @eldorsattorov6033
    @eldorsattorov6033 Рік тому

    Everything coming back to normals. Sakashvili in prison. Georgia back to Russia. Soon Ukraine to follow.