ROLLING OFFSET piping 45 degree (example question)

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  • Опубліковано 14 чер 2024
  • We go through a45 degree rolling offset piping example question. Finding the travel given the offset and the rise.

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  • @rjduncan7083
    @rjduncan7083 2 роки тому +23

    2 1/2 years in & you made this more clear than some of the 20 year hands I’ve asked, thank you

    • @tradestutor1191
      @tradestutor1191  2 роки тому +2

      You're welcome. I'm glad it worked for you. Take care.

    • @jeepwk6.5L
      @jeepwk6.5L Рік тому +1

      Perks of going union. Anyone you ask will know the answer.

    • @AJ-47_
      @AJ-47_ 9 місяців тому

      I’m a 2nd year apprentice and I run into mechanics of 20-30 years that can’t grasp the concept

  • @Aarona97
    @Aarona97 3 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the videos, very well made. Need more of them!!

  • @wolfpowerpersonaltraining8660
    @wolfpowerpersonaltraining8660 2 роки тому

    This guy knows Steve! Steve changed my life

  • @michaelhinchey
    @michaelhinchey 2 роки тому +4

    Please do this in a real world setting. I would love to see this in action.

  • @luckyhitswertres62
    @luckyhitswertres62 3 роки тому +1

    More tutors please about piping..thanks..great video!!

  • @sohailjanjua123
    @sohailjanjua123 6 місяців тому

    Hi, I like your video. Thanks

  • @jamainejiggy240
    @jamainejiggy240 2 роки тому

    Competing in the ua national apprenticeship contest today. This was a great refresher

    • @tradestutor1191
      @tradestutor1191  2 роки тому

      I used to teach for the UA and I've been to that apprenticeship competition a couple of times. it was a lot of fun. Good luck and thanks for watching!

  • @manasvinistrategic
    @manasvinistrategic Рік тому

    Thnx for making it easy

  • @mrcotter2531
    @mrcotter2531 Рік тому

    Very helpful thnx!

  • @stubbycheese9555
    @stubbycheese9555 3 роки тому +2

    Nice comprehensive video. Could you possibly do a video on how to calculate and cut down 90 degree butt-weld pipe elbow's? That would be awesome!

    • @rogeraimable5477
      @rogeraimable5477 2 роки тому

      T TY

    • @colby8948
      @colby8948 6 місяців тому

      Throw is equal to OD x 1.5 subtract throw and weld gap from total offset

  • @pureminds-pp7wg
    @pureminds-pp7wg День тому

    When would i be using this formula when a degree of roll isn't specified? Or just when trying to get from a to b??

  • @strikerj4810
    @strikerj4810 2 місяці тому

    How do you figure out the rolling offset of a fitting? Got a 90 degree fitting, that I'm rolling on a 45 that I need the offset for.

  • @enlitus-Anem
    @enlitus-Anem 4 місяці тому

    That was really helpful

  • @cj0204
    @cj0204 2 роки тому +1

    Then after you get the 22.36 you would then have to remove the measurement of the 2 45s correct? To get the actual piece of pipe. I’m teaching some of my apprentices here and I’m brushing up on my formulas.

    • @tradestutor1191
      @tradestutor1191  2 роки тому

      Hi Caesar: Yes, that is correct. You would have to subtract the fitting allowance for each of the two 45's. Thanks for watching.

  • @electricianed1076
    @electricianed1076 2 роки тому

    What if you have an inside corner where you would typically use a 90, but there's a complication in the corner. There's a vertical pipe, 6" in diameter, and you also have to rise 6" on the adjacent wall to get above a locker shelf--all in just two bends? This is a real problem I've puzzled over. I can sometimes do it by the eyeball method but it doesn't come out quite the way I hope because I don't swivel the pipe for the second bend quite right.

    • @tradestutor1191
      @tradestutor1191  2 роки тому +2

      Wow. That sounds like a bit of a tricky situation. In all fairness I'd have to see what is going on in the room to even have a chance to figure it out. Thanks for watching.

    • @nicknamednickify
      @nicknamednickify 2 роки тому

      @@tradestutor1191 , Thanks for the reply. I admit, my description here was slightly hypothetical, but it tried to get at the problem I'm describing. In other words, the numbers do not matter too much; use any dimensions for the rise of the shelf and the diameter of the cylinder that are convenient. What I'm looking for is a solution to a shape very similar to the one you used, except the end of the pipe at the bottom left would be coming out of the page/screen along the corner of the wall and floor toward you. So, it's a rolling 45-45, I think. Since it is rolling (climbing), the hypotenuse grows. Looking from the top down, it would look just like a 45-45. But when trying to bend it, what is the degree I need to swivel the conduit in the bender out of the regular plane of the legs of the first bend to get it to come out right? Is it 45-degrees? I came up with this problem when trying to bend this shape to fit along the center-lines of two I-beams at 90-degrees to one another where the end of one is resting on the other at their corner. The lips prevented me from doing a kicked 90. Thanks again for answering. I really like how you simplified the math using two triangles.

  • @Matthew-vl5iv
    @Matthew-vl5iv Рік тому +1

    Can you do a video on the ideal gas law and pascals law?

  • @ericg2975
    @ericg2975 4 місяці тому

    So the offset is the horizontal distance and the rise is the vertical distance?

  • @JJRG3499
    @JJRG3499 Рік тому

    Beautiful

    • @tradestutor1191
      @tradestutor1191  Рік тому

      Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Have a great day.

  • @ericroberts1136
    @ericroberts1136 2 роки тому

    Can you do a video on special offsets?

  • @jerine_fredrick
    @jerine_fredrick 2 роки тому

    Thanks u..

  • @foolishcreations2259
    @foolishcreations2259 3 роки тому

    Does this work on 90 rolled offsets?

    • @kennethalambra9146
      @kennethalambra9146 3 роки тому +2

      Not quite so. But you can stop after calculating for "c" and use that as the travel.

  • @farmdaddy510
    @farmdaddy510 2 роки тому +1

    How did you get 15’-1” out of 250 squared??

    • @alkaliwreck2474
      @alkaliwreck2474 2 роки тому

      15.81' or 15' 9 3/4"
      square root, not squared

    • @thisdj83
      @thisdj83 2 роки тому

      I'm waiting on that same answer

  • @jessejebone9202
    @jessejebone9202 2 роки тому

    nice video sir.... Sir what if 22.5 degree roll..? what would be the run..?.and.can you also tell us sir the formula for for travel if it is 22.5 degree roll..thank you so much... and good luck...

    • @alkaliwreck2474
      @alkaliwreck2474 2 роки тому +1

      It's the same up to the point that he uses "C*1.1414"
      Yours would be:
      Travel = C/cos(67.5) or C/sin(22.5) both equal C/0.3827
      Making the travel in this example 41.31 instead of 22.36
      The bottom angle of your green triangle would be 22.5 and the top angle is 67.5 (90-22.5)

    • @alkaliwreck2474
      @alkaliwreck2474 Рік тому +1

      @@RB-xv4si Bud, I said Travel = C/0.3827
      I bet you find that equals about the same as Travel = C*2.613
      Good job discovering trigonometric identities though ;)

    • @alkaliwreck2474
      @alkaliwreck2474 Рік тому

      @@RB-xv4si Who said anything about tangent? cosecant is identical to one over sine. It's math.

    • @alkaliwreck2474
      @alkaliwreck2474 Рік тому

      @@RB-xv4si Are you ok? Do you have dementia? Do we need to call someone? How many ways do I have to say csc(22.5) equals 1/sin(22.5) for a smooth brain to understand? Most scientific calculators don't even have a [sec], [csc], or [cot] function, because trig identities are so commonly known.
      This conversation has been like me saying "turn 90° right" and then you saying, a year later, "nah, that's wrong, it's 270° left." I would assume you're a troll, but it's not like you're getting a lot of attention semantically arguing about trigonometry.
      Hope you get the help you need.

  • @RB-xv4si
    @RB-xv4si Рік тому

    The green triangle is entirely unnecessary. Once you have the blue triangle’s hypotenuse figured out, you just multiply that by the cosecant of the bend angle to get the distance between bends. That’s it

  • @leesaenz6992
    @leesaenz6992 Рік тому

    Something they teach the apprentices at the Plumbers Local Union 777, 🧐.

  • @josed22ns
    @josed22ns 3 роки тому

    I thought the offset and rise had to be the same because it's a square.

    • @tradestutor1191
      @tradestutor1191  3 роки тому +2

      Hi Jose: Sometimes that is the case but in this situation its not. Take care and thanks for watching.

  • @Jason_Van_Stone
    @Jason_Van_Stone 2 роки тому +3

    What I've noticed....it's super easy for you to lay this out by mathematics, and/or on paper, but when it comes to an actual (physical) example, there are none. Lmao

    • @RB-xv4si
      @RB-xv4si Рік тому

      Wtf are you even trying to say?

    • @mebrn5337
      @mebrn5337 11 місяців тому

      ​@@RB-xv4siyou ALREADY KNOW.. the examples are ALWAYS cartoons. And you might feel that "it's the same". But try a rolling offset that's VERTICAL In some cramped space..it's "the same" right? But that becomes a different beast in an actual boiler room or something.. or if you really don't have a nice wall to mark from..because the crap is hanging in mid air in a giant building. And no, your tape measure is NOT going to reach a surface in those scenarios..

    • @RB-xv4si
      @RB-xv4si 11 місяців тому +1

      @@mebrn5337 that’s a great observation; doing the math right doesn’t matter if you don’t have the right measurement to begin with. And part of being a good electrician is figuring out how to get the right measurement. Sometimes that involves using a line laser or a plumb bob. It also sometimes helps to realize that this job isn’t for everyone.

    • @mebrn5337
      @mebrn5337 11 місяців тому

      @@RB-xv4si apparently, you work in a place where people will let you take all that time to get the laser or getting a plumb bob. Most bosses would yell at you, that youre taking too long.

    • @RB-xv4si
      @RB-xv4si 11 місяців тому

      @@mebrn5337 sounds like a personal problem.

  • @Ramprust
    @Ramprust 6 місяців тому

    So at the starting point is the 45 degree fitting also rolled at a 45 degree angle?

  • @brandonreece7807
    @brandonreece7807 Рік тому

    Don’t forget to take off for fittings and weld gaps 😊

    • @tradestutor1191
      @tradestutor1191  Рік тому

      You bet. You can check out my video on fitting allowance to help with that. Thanks for watching.

    • @jamescosta1174
      @jamescosta1174 9 місяців тому

      Skip weld gap, always end up short. Just the fittings. If anything, allow for half the gap, just 1 fitting. Pipefitter trick!

  • @mebrn5337
    @mebrn5337 11 місяців тому +1

    While you're trying to do this math, the boss is yelling at you, as to why you're taking so long..that's the reality

  • @ezmfmon3y882
    @ezmfmon3y882 Місяць тому

    That was such a difficult way to explain it….. It’s really not that difficult.

  • @NasirAli-fr2wx
    @NasirAli-fr2wx Рік тому

    Sir ecentric saddle ka layout kernay ka trika bata dain

  • @koarivera9151
    @koarivera9151 10 днів тому

    Are you gonna spend 20 minutes to measure all this? There’s gotta be a faster way.