Thank you for this. I’m shocked we didn’t learn more o these in school. It’s absolutely fascinating. The Roman/Saxon element. Anyway, from one Welshman to another, you make us all proud. Excellent work, brother. Cymru am byth! 🏴
Oh this has made so much more sense than the other versions I have struggled with in the Maginonion. I now know how to tell a great story properly. Thank you so much. Subscribed.
Mr. Soup, I have to thank you for your consistency. I've been subscribed for about 8 years or so and have never been much of an active viewer but I love watching your wholesome, and pedagogic information process here on the world wide web. You really have inspired me, I can trace all the anthropology classes I took back to watching your videos as a teen. This has funneled me down the path of philology I'm on now. Thanks for the refresher on Welsh phonology; I find it fun and interesting, you could make an entire series of videos on it. I love the Mabinogion, and I have a Welsh flag and tie with Ddraig Goch! Excellent reading, what copy would you recommend one getting (physically, I have a digital copy but love adding to my collection). Have you ever read Tolkien's "English and Welsh" essay? Keep up the good work
The best way I describe how to pronounce the “Ll” to people is to put your tongue to the roof of your mouth and smile then breath outward. I’m from bala and grew up spending time in bala and llanuwchllyn. Which are separated by Llyn Tegid. And my brothers name is Dafydd which is pronounced like (dav-ith) he’s done an amazing job of describing the pronunciation
Llanuwchllyn! I spent a lot of time in and around that part of the world. Heck of a name for Cymraeg novices to get through though. Particularly if 'Araf' freaks them out, haha.
@@Archaeos0up that’s awesome! I also would go twice a month to Dolgellau to have lunch in the old jailhouse that was turned into a restaurant lol. Did you ever go to Bala? That’s where my family home was. My aunt and uncle lived in Bryn Tegid, which was one of the oldest homes and grounds in Bala.
I really liked the pronunciation bit at the start. I have a question, as someone who doesn't know a lick of welsh, keep in mind haha, But is the "Dd" sound the same as the "Ð" eth sound that english used to have a letter for? Edit, just looked it up and yeah, according to the IPA they are the same sound
It was perhaps the Vikings who had dragons in their mythology and art,although these mainly came from the idea of a great snake living beneath the ash tree that held the 9 worlds.Snake also features in the story of Adam and Eve as representing evil...........indeed again and again in World mythology there are references to snakes.Perhaps there is some very ancient prehistoric religion behind all this fear and hatred of snakes,wyrms and dragons...?There and again,in China,like the red dragon of Wales,such beasts become much more benign,and in modern fantasy,even creatures of magic and /or nobility
I read it as a Slovak chľ (like German "ch" or English "kh", and a soft, palatalised l, maybe like in French "Lune", but pronounced near-silently). Llong (ship) to me is roughly "Chľong".
@@ZemplinTemplar no, it's nothing to do with a "ch" or "kh", put the tip of your tongue behind your two front teeth and almost his like a cat out through the sides of your tongue whilst trying to pronounce the Ll 😉
The best way I describe how to pronounce it to people is to put your tongue to the roof of your mouth and smile then breath outward. I’m from bala and grew up spending time in bala and llanuwchllyn. Which are separated by Llyn Tegid. And my brothers name is Dafydd which is pronounced like (dav-ith) he’s done an amazing job of describing the pronunciation
i actually think the white dragon is the yorks and the red dragon is henry the 7ths red rose... he would lose but then won in the end and he was welsh.. the white dragon would be the normans which were viking/frankish celt... wales is still alive.. theyve found evidence to suggest sutton hoo wasnt an invasion site, and a village found showed evidence of saxon settlers living in celtic settlements with celtcs harminously. the saxons may at some point turned violent, but it wasnt an invasion as we first thought. the romans wouldve been red and gold dragons if there was a prophecy on them, due to the red of the army and the gold of their wealth and stature, as an empire, maybe even purple over red. well thats my theory.
Thank you for this. I’m shocked we didn’t learn more o these in school.
It’s absolutely fascinating. The Roman/Saxon element.
Anyway, from one Welshman to another, you make us all proud.
Excellent work, brother.
Cymru am byth! 🏴
Oh this has made so much more sense than the other versions I have struggled with in the Maginonion. I now know how to tell a great story properly. Thank you so much. Subscribed.
Reminds me of Jackanory... thanks, you do a great job.
Thank you for the brief Welsh language help! I was listening to your video in the car on a drive and pronouncing it to myself and it helped a lot (:
Great stuff.
Great story and information. I hadn't realized the Mabinogian was put together in the 19th century. Look forward to the next story.
Mr. Soup, I have to thank you for your consistency. I've been subscribed for about 8 years or so and have never been much of an active viewer but I love watching your wholesome, and pedagogic information process here on the world wide web. You really have inspired me, I can trace all the anthropology classes I took back to watching your videos as a teen. This has funneled me down the path of philology I'm on now.
Thanks for the refresher on Welsh phonology; I find it fun and interesting, you could make an entire series of videos on it. I love the Mabinogion, and I have a Welsh flag and tie with Ddraig Goch! Excellent reading, what copy would you recommend one getting (physically, I have a digital copy but love adding to my collection). Have you ever read Tolkien's "English and Welsh" essay? Keep up the good work
I love the stories in the Mabinogion of Lludd & Llefelys & the 3 plagues.
Damn those dwarves Lol
My 59th Great Grandfather is Lludd, he is called Aflech in my tree, son of Beli Mawr.
The best way I describe how to pronounce the “Ll” to people is to put your tongue to the roof of your mouth and smile then breath outward. I’m from bala and grew up spending time in bala and llanuwchllyn. Which are separated by Llyn Tegid. And my brothers name is Dafydd which is pronounced like (dav-ith) he’s done an amazing job of describing the pronunciation
Llanuwchllyn! I spent a lot of time in and around that part of the world. Heck of a name for Cymraeg novices to get through though. Particularly if 'Araf' freaks them out, haha.
@@Archaeos0up that’s awesome! I also would go twice a month to Dolgellau to have lunch in the old jailhouse that was turned into a restaurant lol. Did you ever go to Bala? That’s where my family home was. My aunt and uncle lived in Bryn Tegid, which was one of the oldest homes and grounds in Bala.
I really liked the pronunciation bit at the start. I have a question, as someone who doesn't know a lick of welsh, keep in mind haha, But is the "Dd" sound the same as the "Ð" eth sound that english used to have a letter for?
Edit, just looked it up and yeah, according to the IPA they are the same sound
what instrument is used in the begining?
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Lludd does seems to be related to Nodens.
I Called Him Witless Worm
It was perhaps the Vikings who had dragons in their mythology and art,although these mainly came from the idea of a great snake living beneath the ash tree that held the 9 worlds.Snake also features in the story of Adam and Eve as representing evil...........indeed again and again in World mythology there are references to snakes.Perhaps there is some very ancient prehistoric religion behind all this fear and hatred of snakes,wyrms and dragons...?There and again,in China,like the red dragon of Wales,such beasts become much more benign,and in modern fantasy,even creatures of magic and /or nobility
I'm a Welsh beginner and Ll is very hard for me to make out. Diolch am ddisgrifio Ll a Dd!
I read it as a Slovak chľ (like German "ch" or English "kh", and a soft, palatalised l, maybe like in French "Lune", but pronounced near-silently). Llong (ship) to me is roughly "Chľong".
@@ZemplinTemplar no, it's nothing to do with a "ch" or "kh", put the tip of your tongue behind your two front teeth and almost his like a cat out through the sides of your tongue whilst trying to pronounce the Ll
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The best way I describe how to pronounce it to people is to put your tongue to the roof of your mouth and smile then breath outward. I’m from bala and grew up spending time in bala and llanuwchllyn. Which are separated by Llyn Tegid. And my brothers name is Dafydd which is pronounced like (dav-ith) he’s done an amazing job of describing the pronunciation
i actually think the white dragon is the yorks and the red dragon is henry the 7ths red rose... he would lose but then won in the end and he was welsh.. the white dragon would be the normans which were viking/frankish celt... wales is still alive.. theyve found evidence to suggest sutton hoo wasnt an invasion site, and a village found showed evidence of saxon settlers living in celtic settlements with celtcs harminously. the saxons may at some point turned violent, but it wasnt an invasion as we first thought. the romans wouldve been red and gold dragons if there was a prophecy on them, due to the red of the army and the gold of their wealth and stature, as an empire, maybe even purple over red. well thats my theory.
So if Dragons were Welsh maybe Gildas wasn’t so crazy .
Ok he was probably pretty crazy but we see connections between this and Gildas
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