Why Being a Conductor is The Hardest Job Ever
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Conductors are the loneliest members of an orchestra.
The musicians won’t even glance at them.
You watch guys to tell u to practice
And they get so offended when you dont look at them too
There are still some conductors like Benjamin Zander well connected with musicians and people around. Of course they might have different situations.
either the chorus conductor🙃
Especially the violas. (As a violist I can confirm)
Twoset: “I didn’t hear where they messed up.”
Me (non-musician): Finally, I can relate.”
lol same 😂
Same
I've been playing 2 instruments for over a decade and still bullshit my way through all of these videos. "Mhmm.... Yes I agree, that was awful playing" *smokes pipe while my ass sweats furiously*
afterwards: oh ITS SO OFF
me: ; - ;
L0n3 Duo me
"Oh, and what instrument do you play?"
"The orchestra."
A M A Z I N G
*E P I C*
I N T E R E S T I N G
@@aquamarineancientsoul7893 davie504 fans aren't allowed here 🤣
Just kidding I am a fan of both
The triangle........................... lol
As a pianist who has little experience playing in orchestra, and spends most of my time solo practicing, these clips terrify me.
Oh hey, didn't expect to see you here
Love your Zelda pieces
I agree, your ocarina of time medley is great
You have no idea
Yoy get used to the strictness of conductor
Erik C 'Piano Man'
I have a question my good friend, I want to make it big like that famous player for playing a super hard piece perfectly. I don’t know if playing in an orchestra as a pianist is it for me. Is there a solo piano play business, I am going to reach the top and make my own peak of the summit.
- Conductors are delicate pe-
- *YOU HAVE NO EARS, NO EYES*
Oof i remember this..
Toscanini was an Old school
and then he say “PORCO DIO!”
xD I remember like it was yesterday :’)
a A _A _*_A A_** Y Y Y Y C O N T R A B A SSIIII*
Brett: "conductors are delicate people"
Me, my mind full of traumatic flashbacks from my band director yelling at & roasting everyone:
…are you sure?
Cursing, throwing literal keys.. but also teaching skat at practice weekends xD
Can’t relate 🙂 My conductor is niceee
COOONTRABAASSSSSOO
My conductor for my orchestra is happy he's evil, throwing his batons and candy at my classmates. Jokingly of course, but it's still horrifying...
a. y your band must have broken your conductor
5:22 that conductor was the freakin boss for resetting that situation so quickly and under such total control. I think a lot of people would have just tried to continue on and hope for the players to get in sync. But he was like nah screw this. Tap tap tap. And one....
That one looks like Igor Stravinsky ngl.
what piece is this tho thank u
@@christiandanielflores5775 Messe in B Minor by Bach
@@kurumi394 thanks :)
That goes to how professional he was. Once there's a mistake, they have to improvise how to make the orchestra stop.
The Da-gu-da-dum part on the triangle...this just shows how much of a perfectionist Bernstein was. Here is where they fail. Attempt 1: the rhythm is not clear enough. It sounds too slurred. Attempt: 2 the rhythm is clear, but the sound is too aggressive. That's why he says "that's a little better". Attempt #3: rushing a tiny bit and sounds flat. Their sound production is just not right. Attempt #4 he does the same thing, just in a slightly different spot on the triangle. Hence - "doorbell". A very simple instrument, but not simple to play at all! Not a specialist, but it probably has to do with the angle at which you hold the stick, how much you let it vibrate in your hand when hitting the triangle, how many milliseconds you linger on each hit, how strong you make each stroke (there probably should be a little bit of a crescendo). As I said, not a specialist...but I have seen some great percussionists play the triangle and the thing starts to sing and dance in certain hands!
Thank you for the explanation
Finally thanks
I thought the same about this, the sound is slurred, especially the last attempt
Cool story - needs more dragons.
Nicely explained, thank you
Yesterday: "violins are delicate instruments"
Today: "conductors are delicate people"
Music is a delicate thing.
I ❤ music
Tomorrow? Violinists are delicate players. 🥳
You could actually put a 27kg kid on a conductor and they wouldn't break.
Considering violing can withstand 27kg, then conductors are real badasses
Gustavo Dudamel is a violinist, coincidence? I THINK NOT
Eddy as a conductor: Moving passionately with the music and has a lot of facial expressions.
Brett as a conductor: Dead pan face with minimal gestures.
I mean apparently Bernstein could conduct with his eyebrows, so why not?
I've had both types of conductors!
So Eddy is Bernstein and Brett is Boulez?
Brett dabs while conducting
Brett can conduct like Bernstein. What do you think those eyebrows are for.
Can we all petition Apple to make Maestro Bernstein’s “DAGADADUM” an official alert/text tone for iPhone?
I support
I prefer the sound Bernstein made when imitating the doorbell sound.
[stares in android user]
I’d prefer the VIOLA! ringtone
Once in my high school band somehow we collectively skipped a measure. We had been playing it well for a month or so but practically everyone, including the conductor just randomly skipped this one measure and kept playing as if nothing happened. There were one or two people who were confused but most of us just did it instinctually - it only happened one and it remains a great mystery :)
Y'all hive minded
It would have been funny if the director stopped the band and got mad at the only 2 that got it right. 😂😂
It's King Crimson
Did u guys talk about it
@@huyenly7603 LMAO
brett: conductors are delicate people
toscanini roasting his orcestra: eeeeeeeaaaa contrabassi!!!1!! your ears are in your feet!!!! *sounds of italian anger*
You have no eyes! nO eArS! *nO* *sOuL!!!*
@@hugod327 this is a comment with sound
you've heard of [cries in spanish]
get ready for [ITALIAN RAGE]
I can hear this comment
i’m italian and it’s *contraBBassi lol
I was in a state honors choir once and our choir as a whole was NOT following the conductor. Cue the best teaching allegory I have ever heard from any conductor ever.
“Imagine you’re on a desert island. You haven’t eaten for days. You’re starving. All of a sudden, out in the distance, you see a Hershey’s bar. It’s shining in the light. You run towards it, hoping and praying it’s real. You grab it, and you can’t believe your luck. You bite into it, and the chocolate is real. It melts on your tongue. The chocolate is so sweet. It’s the best thing you’ve ever eaten in your life.
Folks, I am that chocolate bar! Look at me like I am that chocolate bar.”
He was black.
Our choir had no issues after that 😂
TuttiTunes 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m black lol
ROFL XD Thank you for this and, I guess, thanks to your choir for not following the conductor at the time so that such a memorable allegory was made. This gave me a good laugh after a long day :D
Hmm... if you are on a "desert" island, I really doubt you have to run for some chocolate!
Sorry, I will show myself out...
Damn that is one smart chocolate man
LMAO this is wonderful I wish my allstate choir directors said this 😂
Viola in orchestra = Alto in choir.
It's always the Alto 😔
Yeahh
Saying from a bass' perspective tho
or 1st Bass lol
Tenors = they can sing
2nd Bass = they can actually hit the low notes
1st Bass = the rest
Always saw the Altos as the French horn tho.😊
The funny thing is when it's soprano😂
No, definitely the tenors (says a soprano, so no ax to grind)
I will never forget how stupefied I was once in youth symphony orchestra when our new conductor stopped and said "you on the fourth stand in the second violin on the left, you played a wrong note in bar xyz that f sharp was out of tune" (or something similar).
He didn't mean me, but I'm sure my mouth was hanging open because I'd always been sure I could hide behind the others when I happened to play a wrong note. No more! And how the hell did he hear who exactly made the mistake among the 20+ violins playing?! 😳
I think they're triplets. The maestro could have sung continuous triplets, made them play it just "to get the hang of it," then try again just one triplet and stop on the next next note.
Maybe we've been mishearing Asian mothers all this time: "When you get older you become conDUCTOR lah!"
U be come-ductor
Hmm... relatable af
Big mood.
Holy shit what if-
I knew it. Singaporean.
Ling Ling doesn’t need a conductor
The conductor needs Ling Ling
Concertmaster? I would say WHOLE MUSICAL WORLD master
@Kristine Pradilla Conductor: (cues the end of a fermata)
Ling Ling: NO! You're OFF BEAT!
Excuse me im newbie here. Can you explain me who is lingling?
The conducter needs some to conduct. Imagine a conducter just standing on the stage just waving with a pin.
REALLY stupid remark.
I'm not even a musician but man, these conductors scares me.
5:29 just SEND me omg my hands drenched in cold sweat, I felt that in my soul
2:36 He says viola with such passion that it kinda sounds like it's part of the performance, like it's a play and a character is calling out to someone named "Viola."
Btw, anyone know what piece that is?
EDIT: Found it less than 15 seconds later. Bruckner's 7th Symphonh, Mvt. 1
@@PuddintameXYZ that's celidibache
@@PuddintameXYZ Yeah Sergiu Celibidache was one of the best Bruckner conductors. He really knew how to get Bruckners "orchestral organ" breathing. If you are into it and dont fear counterpoint - his recording of Bruckners 5th symphony is the real deal. Simply music from heaven.
Music fits too
@@musicalsoul4542 Yeah it kinda makes it more dramatic and intense
When i was a kid i thought conductors were random old guys who really liked dancing so they got a nice little stick and did it with a bunch of fun people making fun noises in the background
Lmao
Haha lol
That somehow sounds wrong
accurate
so you thought... and then there's this guy at 5:07
The one you skipped that yelled "1-2-3" was weird al yankovic.
How dare you!!! Hahaha
2:37 . The musical equivalent of " where is the lamb sauce"
Conductor: calls the viola section
All of the violinists: laugh at me because I'm the concertmaster and yet my name's Viola
Me: *internal screaming*
That's sad
Fufhfjdjekekwwi I thought this was a joke then I looked at your name omgggg
V I O L A
@@JamesConley999 saaaammeee
Reminds me of "Press X to Shaun" lmao.
EDDY JUST CASUALLY ROASTING THE PERCUSSION LIKE
"as a triangle player, you're probably not used to having such high expectations placed on your part."
Yes that was kinda mean lol
It's kinda like your parents saying, "we know you're not as good as your brother, but can you at least try?"
@@heelrunner that would hurt as hell
@@heelrunner where the lie tho
@@gigipizzuto4068 sound like my mom of you got third higest grade but why not first?
Mom it aint eazy you know that
5:32 Nerves of steel of the conductor. We fucked up, let's just chill and start back, we got this guys.
I have been watching many livestreams since Covid lockdowns started. The number of senior, professional conductors who count, sing, mutter and generally make noises during livestreams is absolutely astonishing.
conductor: "it has to be da-ga-da-dum!"
percussionist: *plays da-ga-da-dum*
conductor: "no, it's not da-ga-da-dum, it has to be da-ga-da-dum!"
percussionist: *visible confusion*
Lol
I love you hahaha
I actually understood him there. It's the last note/rhythm that was off. I don't know how they could've fixed it but it was somehow wrong
Sorat - they needed more space between the notes 😊 they were playing it just a little to fast, so they’re rhythmic integrity wasn’t quite spot on yet!
a. y It has to be a triplet and an 8th. The triangles were playing 4 8th notes.
The conductor: "That sounds like a doorbell"
The entire orchestra: Ooof
Its BERNSTEIN!!!!!!!!!
I don't understand how you play with musicality on the triangle. I thought they were sort of like sound effects that accentuate certain sections of the music.
@@yuntsuchen accentuating certain section of the music in bernsteins head is what they failing to do, so bernstein encourages the players to play with more musicality. makes sense?
I suppose what Bernstein expecting was piano on the first and third note and forte on the forth
@@stevenhan8643 not really the players are playing 4 8th notes where the ryhtm is triplet and an 8th its subtle but its there and kinda annoying because how distinctive the bell sound is oh and they failing because its a fast tempo they have shit gear and all the pressure the tension on moment makes it very difficult for two guys to play it in unison so they are kind of even began defeated trying to laugh it off all through feeling awfully out of their body and senses.
"as a triangle player you're probably not used to having such high expectations on your part" Eddy 2020
Ah yes, triangle. The smallest and yet still included part on orchestra.
Which reminds me of Amazing World of Gumball where Gumball nailed the triangle part...and everyone is dissapointed.
TwoSet: "conducting is hard"
My mom: "these old guys just wiggle their arms, of course it's easy pffff"
yeah xD
**Are they the conductors who don’t get respect in the orchestra?**
My teacher, when I haven’t practiced:
“It’s worse. Well, congratulations ”
I feel so bad for thinking that the conductor is useless, from watching twoset I have learned that the conductor basically carry the whole team
Before i started playing music, i always thought that conductors were never needed and that they just waved a stick around doing nothing. Now dat i hv started playing music, i realised that conductors are everything when it comes to playing in a group together with a big audience.
conductor: *does super coordinated and complicated hand movements that bring everyone together while looking at the singer*
people in the audience: *does 3/4 counting and pretends to conduct* haha this is so easy
Oh god no
I have to admit, I used to do this. But then I took a music class in uni and realized that it’s really difficult. Mad respect to conductors!
I've been a percussionist in a few amateur orchestras, and triangle has ALWAYS been the highest expectation on sound design. Everyone outside of musicians tend to make jokes about the triangle being easy to play (because it's "just tapping a metal triangle you see") but it's extremely hard to play precise rhythms with it, I have found. Doing that one rhythm, alone, is somewhat feasible, but to coordinate with your triangle-mate to be precise enough? a nightmare.
Well said! Much like the piccolo, it can cut through the entire orchestra. It is definitely not something to be taken lightly.
I'm getting nightmare flashbacks from that clip... Worse thing about percussion is that if you fuck it up, *everybody* knows. Doesn't matter if you have the smallest part, *everybody* hears you
Thank you! I was waiting for this comment defending percussionists! Twoset doesn’t know how difficult percussion is!
Kathy Ho definitely, I hated that. I'm a harpist, but one semester they didn't have any harp parts and needed percussionists so I did it. Going from an instrument that's kinda quiet so it's not too noticeable when you mess up to loud as fuck percussion was nerve wracking
Each triangle should've been suspended with two clips.
5:36 this is a representation of second hand embarrassment on full potential
In the clip with Kleiber, it's a bit hard to hear because it's a bootleg video. But it's pretty clear that the orchestra just went on autopilot when Kurt Moll (the bass) finishes his phrase. In that moment, the singers onstage are quite slow and the orchestra doesn't react at all. Kleiber is on it immediately showing a crazy clear cutoff on 4 with a fresh downbeat to adjust the orchestra's timing to the stage but they are nowhere to be found (granted his new downbeat is late to the stage but in these emergency situations, these split second gestures can save the day even if they aren't perfect). Kleiber took things very personally as always, hence the stab to the heart. But it's true that the orchestra completely dropped the ball in that moment. And any opera conductor worth their salt knows you can't fix the stage but you can adjust the orchestra.
Thanks for all the great videos!
I forgot that was Kleiber! I didn't recognize him!
I love my orchestra conductors so much. They are always so into the music, like with their whole hearts.
They don't hesitate to roast us if we're bad, but it's not in that scary and angry way. Like for instance when we played a piece by Wilhelm Stenhammar one of them said:
"I'm glad Stenhammar is dead, so that he can't hear you play right now. He would've been so sad."
lol savage. i think thats the key tho, roasting the whole orchestra or a whole section is one thing. singling out one person is another
my conductors like "oh this *used* to be a good piece" so I guess its mild and nice jokes
U dont happen to be from LUO Kulturskolan...?
@@anastasijajankovic9030 I am! Omg who are you
@@smorgasen1031 hhahahahah jag är hon med svarta fiolen!!!
Conductors have the hardest job. They have the longest solo... It lasts the whole concert and usually is where all crowd's eyes end up.
Gigi Pizzuto also they stand for the whole performance. I just realized that.
I...can’t tell if everyone is being sarcastic or not...
my heart is hurting for those percussionists omg there's just not much more you can do for that triangle part lmao. as a percussionist, can tell u our part always goes SO downhill when we're stressed LOL
First clip is Carlos Kleiber, a usually very friendly and calm conductor who was famous for his cooperation with orchestras even though he never stuck with a particular one. Quite a perfectionist from what I've heard. You can watch rehearsals with him and you see what a nice and funny person he was.
As a middle school teacher, I've just felt a spiritual connection to those conductors. Trying to guide a bunch of very different people who have very different ideas of why the heck they're in a group doing the thing, which thing we're doing, and why there's somebody at front getting increasingly frustrated... lord have mercy on us.
Thank you for your service **salute**
As another teacher I’m with you there.
As yet another teacher I have to agree. :) And we explode because we're delicate and we care. Show me a teacher or conductor or any other leader who doesn't explode and I'll show you somebody who doesn't give an F(sharp).
A friend of mine is a conductor and his broke his knee while conducting.
The passion.
The osteoporosis.
Really?
Does he happened to be "Jean Baptiste Lully"?
Maybe not, but he died of injuring his foot (smashed with his conducting staff) during conducting.
Tough times when there were no antibiotics.
can't believe they skipped over my mans Weird Al Yankovic like that
That was very sacreligious
Really really sacreligious
Not like he's so famous worldwide
yuja's stare at 4:11 .. she was ready for MURDER
WHY BEING A TWOSET FAN IS THE HARDEST EVER:
You prevent us from practising! Just kidding. We love you, guys!
it’s even scarier when a conductor you respect asks you to play alone because you don’t want to disappoint them
8:36 Leonard BURNstein!
Talking about the section by section and then the “no” after KILLS ME. The ANXIETY knowing eventually he’ll get to you but you’re section isn’t ready omg
My favourite quote from a conductor: "This is not a democracy!"
"This is a benevolent dictatorship" -my middle school band teacher
This applies to:
swim team
band
orchestra
marching band
symphony orchestra
professors
literally every group project
figuratively every group project
jobs
life
dictatorships
democra-wait. never mind.
@@pseudonym517 also rugby
*The violas weren’t playing bad, he just wanted them to be heard more in the rehearsal ^^
yeah that's what the guys were getting at. they were saying the violas were likely trying to play the heck out of that melody after the conductor yelled for more viola, not that they were making errors, just couldn't be heard enough,
Yeah you right cuz I have never heard a viola section play wrong or bad the only section I have heard play bad is cough cough second violins cough oh sorry what was I saying I forgot but anyways y'all need to stop with the viola jokes
In my experience viola sections tend to be undermanned, which makes balancing against the rest of the strings very difficult.
Thread Bomb Very common in amateur orchestras. I’ve spent so much time playing in sections of two. Might as well not even play half the time and just play the soli and other thin passages, ‘cause no one will hear you with the full orchestra playing anyway. And my viola is nice and loud.
Mayra Portillo violas and 2nds mess up in equal amounts
This brought back traumatic memories of playing once in high school band... during one concert, the band's tempo got so out of sync that the conductor had to cut us off and restart from a measure in the middle of the piece. He tried to keep it cool, but we all were ready to pee our pants because we knew we were in such deep trouble for not watching him to keep tempo. To this day, the look on his face as he gave us the second "downbeat" for the piece is burned into my memory lol
8:23 the only time I’ve seen Bernstein struggle at ANYTHING
As a percussionist, I can tell you those guys weren't playing the part right. They should have played it on the inside, one-handed, and with great force; the alternative hand should have been dampening the notes so that they were more staccato. They could have also played the phrase on the widest parts of the triangle so that the notes traveled less. Either way, they were playing it too legato. Ringing the notes over each other.
I'll tell you one thing though; when a percussionist doesn't know what they are doing wrong, they'll never play it right. It's happened to me, I know the feeling of starting to sweat and just simply not know what to do.
To be fair, there are SO many different percussion instruments and it’s hard to be an expert at them all! Some require reading notes, not just rhythm, and each one has its unique technique.
When the conductor starts to sing when conducting...there might be something wrong.
When the conductor suddenly tapped to stop the orchestra...then there is something wrong.
Don't mess with Yuja Wang and her Mendelssohn's piano concerto or a giant viola will tear your homes to pieces.
Seriously, the second movement of that concert is incredible.
Being a conductor myself, with over 5 years of experience, I relate to this video a lot. I make mistakes too, but that's okay. I was always taught that if you mess up, try to fix yourself in the next bar when possible. Very funny video, and I agree that conducting is a very tough and very serious job, even though I only do it as a hobby. :)
i thought all it took to be a conductor is to have delocalised electrons
God. Damn it. I love it but I hate it.
HAHAHAHHAHA
but you're discounting other charged quasiparticles (like holes).
LOL
We know this was recorded a while ago because of Brett’s glasses
No no, maybe he back to wear his old precious glasses 😅
Omg, aren't u a sherlock
I have two glasses and some days I choose the old one...
@@Nezumi99 he seems not confident with his new glasses. While i got used to see him with new glasses 😞
Btw he got his round glasses since 2018 when they did world tour. But he rarely wear them. On one of his old snapgram he thought that he would looks so bad with the round ones
fangirl ling he’s right, he looks better with these glasses
One of my favourite conductors was Gennady Rozhdestvensky. Absolutely minimal hand movements, fantastic music. It just proves that it's all in the rehearsals and the orchestra's respect for the man. A player in one of the London orchestras said he just made you want to play your best for him.
The triangle part gives me nightmares. When you have a conductor that's never played percussion it's hard to translate what they are saying to what can be done
Brett and Eddy: Does Tik Tok move at the start
Me: doesn’t have tiktok
Also me: More time to practice though ((:
But how do u know it's from tiktok ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Audrey Adnyana my thoughts exactly
@@cantaloupe4856 come on, everybody has seen that move thingy at least once before due to how many people do it.
You probably have the best TikTok! A metronome!
The woah was before tiktok :o
So you were talking about "red alert" conductor gestures -- here's one, and it has nothing to do with the music. In high school I was in the orchestra pit for Kiss Me Kate. It has a lot of showbizzy play-in-a-play humor. At one point Harrison Howell crashes a rehearsal by driving his truck onto the stage through the outdoor backstage access, and stop a bit short of the orchestra pit. The actor driving wasn't sure how far forward the front wheels were and didn't know where to stop. The conductor made increasingly panicked "STOP" motions and signed the cross while us musicians dove for cover under the apron's supports.
THAT was a red fuckin alert D:
Please tell me everyone was okay. That sounds horrifying
@@TheMimiandbb Yeah nothing actually fell, lol. But what was about 12 inches from falling was a 2.5 ton truck.
@@waypointb okay
I started to be amaze of the conductor job when I saw all the hard effort and lot of hours Chiaki (Nodame Cantabile Anime) put into making a orquestra sound decent, learning the partitude by memory of every instruments, understanding the melody, musicality and even the creator and their background, it really was amazing to see all that.
That's one of my favorite anime! Unfortunately they never came out with an official boxset with good English subtitles. 😭
My Uncle used to play for the LSO when he started his career as a violinist. The conductor at that time was Sir Georg Solti. Now, sadly my Uncle had a passion for raw garlic and would easily consume a head of garlic a day. He decided to indulge before rehearsal one day and they weren't too long into it when Solti stopped the orchestra and screamed: 'Who's been eating garlic? Someone's been eating garlic!'. My Uncle raised his bow timidly and apparently Solti lost his charts and threw him out, telling him to not return until he'd gotten rid of the smell. Needless to say, he didn't do that again 🤣
Why are conductors always assholes?
My favorite conductor quote...when rehearsing Norina’s aria with the orchestra the conductor slams his baton down and screams,”No No No !!!” (At this moment I am thinking, “ God, I hope that is not about me.”) he turns to the violins and screams, “ If she can sing all those damned notes, why can’t you play them!!?” Lol!!
I love it!
Twoset: “Watch the conductor guys..”
Also Twoset: who watches the conductor anyways?
My middle school orchestra conductor once stopped us in the middle of a concert and has us "start again from measure 120" because the first violins were 2 bars ahead of the rest of the orchestra. Most embarrassing concert moment of my life
That clip at 5:24 I've literally had happen to me when I was the Baritone in my first ever B Minor Mass. We didn't reset and honestly it made it so difficult to refocus and sing after that because I had so much second hand embarassment. Love y'all so much who can pull that Oboe duet off well!
I can't imagine how it feels when the conductor said "No it sounds like a doorbell"… I feel so sorry for those percussionists…
Bernstein sucked at explaining and made them nervous but to be fair I don't think they were well prepared either.
“I’m not a triangle specialist but that sounds like a doorbell”
In the clip with Yuja Wang, it is Kurt Masur conducting and singing. I mean he was the chief conductor of the Gewandhaus Orchestra the New York Philharmonics and the London Symphony Orchestra for nearly four decades, so he knew what he was doing, but he was also feared for calling out musicians and their mistakes, even in concert. Also pointing at them in front of the audience. In this case, he might have even forgotten about being in concert, because he was in his 80s and already in a weak state of health. But most probably, he was just unsatisfied with the execution of the cello section, trying to "show" them his intended speed by singing along. After all, there are several conductors out there, sometimes singing or at least huming along without realizing.
I have always wanted to be a conductor. And now that u know the hard parts of being one, it makes my dream bigger. Thank you!
The "di-gi-da-dum" thing reminds me of when I was playing Beethoven's 7th 1st movement in youth orchestra. There is a motor rhythm basically the entire movement and the conductor pointed out that we could never keep it as it was - it would always morph into something else.
I went to bed every night after rehearsal with that rhythm in my head.
I bet those triangle players went to bed thinking "DI-GI-DA-DUM" all night XD
@Yanjun Sun Haha brutal... but deserved if you didn't practice lol
@Yanjun Sun well done, conductor!
It's not just hard to be a conductor. It's even difficult to become one. At the beginning of your career you're being too soft or too hard and you end up being eaten by an orchestra.
That last one gave me so much anxiety. "Idk what you need to but do it" like yeah ok
Fast forward to 2021 where twoset tries conducting the youth orchestra XD
Conductor at 5:24 it's the priest Jesus Segade from my country (Argentina), and the piece is Messe in B minor from Bach, and they're playing in one of the most important cathedrals in the country (Lujan).
He's mostly known cause he arranged the choir section of the Misa Criolla (you must listen to it).
Gracias, me lo estaba buscando!
actually thank you ♥
Gracias, quería saber de donde venia el video.
They screwed up the mass in B minor that badly?
gracias bro cuando lei “directo lujan” dije esto es en argentina jajajaja
I didn't realize how hard conducting was until I played in an orchestra for someone's conducting recital and the sound that the student drew from us versus the sound that her instructor drew from us was completely different. Newfound respect for conductors after that...
Conductor: VIOLA... VIOLA... VIOLA... 😡
Discovered your channel at random, and it reignited my passion for classical music. Enjoy all the technical explanations you give.
imagine a deaf conductor using sign language but his orchestra thinks he's conducting
Oh I’d feel so sorry for him.
I think what you meant was Mute? Since if the conductor is Deaf then he probably couldn't hear the sound of the orchestra meaning he couldn't be a conductor
I'm a conductor of my choir group. One day there was one of the singers who told me "Ugh, it's so tiring to sing again and again. Not like you, I know you aren't tired because you just move your hand"
And I was like "shut the f*ck up, bruh you don't know anything"
Yasmin Nailya tell them to conduct for a bit and when they do it and realize how hard it is they shut up
I soooo agree with it! They don't know how tiring it is to keep in check all of them, to have them sound good! If something gets messed up, they blame the conductor! (WHO STILL HAS TO SING WITH THEM SO THEY DON'T MIX THE TEXT OR GET OUT OF TUNE WHILE STILL GIVING THE DYNAMICS AND MEASURING THE TEMPO) Uh, I feel you.
Conducting is a tiresome job cuz your main focus is to try to lead the whole orchestra and ensure no ones messed up or ahead or behind.
Along side you gotta time things correctly for the orchestra with the baton or hand gesture. Especially when the orchestra messes up, it'll look really bad on the conductor on a live performance.
I know struggles when I see.
Also when joining any sort of band or music or of sorts ya gotta practice over and over until you get it right.
Idk if my Schools league of legends club is even still going or active. But omg -_- the amount of noobs or somewhat good players I've played and trained is off the charts..... also it wasn't like a big group group like drama or what not but still.
I just luv these two bright and wonderful young musicians,, So much to learn from them,,
You guys are my idols! hahahaha. 1 year later and your old content still brings me joy! :D
8:33 “I’m not a [triangle] specialist” is a classic line when you’re a passive aggressive conductor.
When the last conductor just gave up on the triangles, I, just watching over here can have the courage to laugh. However, if I were in that orchestra, I would't be laughing at their mistakes. The look from the conductor terrifies me when they couldn't get the sound he wanted. I would be thinking "what if it's my turn or my section?"
Also it wasn't just some random conductor, it was Leonard Bernstein, one of the biggest composers and conductors of the 20th century.
All the more to feel terrified and nervous but still feel honored
@@K21GUM Yep, still I wonder how this continued after the end of the video.
I'm not even a musician nor play in an orchestra but this stress me out somehow
This segment made me miss orchestral playing so much. I was right there with Brett &Eddy, saying, "AACCKkK"! Playing under world famous conductors is an experience so intense, it's a workout far greater than 6 hours at a gym, and that's a body AND brain workout. All that, and I only lead the viola section. Yes, viola. I dare you. Can you imagine how much more difficult being the conductor is? The boys didn't even start discussing how the conductor how to memorize the score, every single part. There's a video of Rach 2, played by the Radio Danish Orchestra, and it's far and away the best performance that I've ever heard or played. The conductor employed no physical score, no stand with sheet music in between the orchestra and him. All from memory. You guys are right, conducting is AMAZING, lol!
As a percussion player for about 6yrs it's pretty damn hard to get the dikididam sound on that big size of triangle. And they should hit the triangle at the vertices not the sides it will get a shorter and higher sound, but actually the triangle is pretty hard to get that sound, even the conductor don't know how, so yeah just saying
4:03 Eddy: is this a live performance with... live people...?
*I SHOULD HOPE THEY'RE ALIVE*
Haha you made me laugh out loud thanks 😂
Man, these reminds me of all those times in our own youth orchestra. There was one time our conductor got so fed up with us that during the run off concert our maestro just started stomping to get us in time. And the amount of times he's made us restart, it's amazing.
5:12 Weird Al Yankovic?
I love watching Eddy get extreme secondhand embarrassment over the orchestra messing up 😂
5:23 One time, my dad's choir did that with the Confutatis from Mozart's Requiem. In front of the president.
I can imagine how that happened...
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One of the things I've learned from running a mini-choir, and from someone I know who recently started conducting an amateur orchestra, is how much time and effort is spent outside rehersal organizing music. Picking music to learn, picking out songs for each sunday, running it past the pastor, rearranging music for your group, checking you aren't infringing copyright by accident because the laws are confusing, printing off parts because someone has lost theirs, figuring out what you're short of, and making sure you bring your music and the spares to rehersal etc etc. In addition to making sure everyone knows practice times and changes to schedules, and all important parts of the loop know what's going on, learning to play the accompaniment on the harp and to sing all the verses and so on. There's a lot to running a group of musicians. And I'm just running a tiny church choir mostly singing in unison, not conducting.
The person with the orchestra has a much more complex job than I do. They spend so much time eyebrows-deep in music composition software rearranging parts for the unusual instrumentation they've got, listening to youtube videos of the piece with the score in front of them, and generally learning it inside out, backwards and forwards. And so many more people to wrangle, and money and practice space stuff to worry about that I don't have to deal with as a church group.
Wrangling music and people is a huge, time-consuming, and almost-invisible part of the job.
Not in my orchestra. They make other people do it. My friend the viola player did nearly all of it one time
As a violist this made me cry laugh. I was the principle and my section was so terrible, the last stand was reading comics (the joy of junior orchestra). I used to yell out measure numbers sometimes because they were so lost. Good times. The conductor would make us go stand by stand and after us it would just break down.