Women Against Feminism
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- Опубліковано 10 сер 2014
- The Women Against Feminism campaign has exploded in recent weeks. Many feminists have responded by calling these women ignorant. They claim that they aren't aware of the definition of feminism. Is this true? Here's my opinion.
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One of my biggest quandaries concerning feminism is that if I tried to offer my opinion on why certain woman behave in certain ways or are treated by society in certain ways, then I'd be accused of "Mansplaining," and that's bad. Yet feminists are allowed to constantly dictate to men how society treats us and why we act the way we do?
They can fuck off!
I've always found it funny how Feminists claim men should not tell women how to act and what to be like to be accepted but they find it totally fine to tell men how to act and what to be to be accepted by women. Feminists claim to want equality but place women on this pedestal where they are pretty much untouchable, using arguments such as "Always respect women, a woman gave birth to you." Yes, and that same woman also can abuse you and traumatize you like a man could. Or when referring to abortion and being pro-choice the way Feminists speak of the topic is as if women are some supreme beings-almost like a God-that could create or destroy you, and if they wanted to could flush their baby out of their womb if they felt like it just because it grows inside them. I have nothing against abortion but there's definitely alot of arrogance and feelings of entitlement when this topic is touched upon.
I'm a woman, I've read multiple definitions of feminism, I've read countless articles and studies about feminism, I've heard both sides of the argument... I'm against feminism.
Aria Hill Good choice :)
Aria Hill Most Women or people in general, that challenge Feminism end up not be feminist.
chainedtotruth Being
Aria Hill Good girl Aria.
Aria Hill Most of the feminist and their white knights say is "You understand what feminism is". When we've looked into thoroughly.
The definition of feminism describes what it _used_ to be...not what it currently is today.
Or simply describes what they want you to believe it was/is. Yet feminism actually came at the end of all the real women's liberation. By the time feminism was even invented, women had already accomplished everything feminism states to be about in the Suffragette and Women's Liberation movements. Feminism has -always- been a sham, but with each new 'wave' of it, it becomes increasingly more destructive, nonsensical and unstable.
I think I'm going to go and update that definition on feminism
look up the actual modern feminist issues. don't listen to the strawman propaganda perpetrated by women who are in desperate need of male attention.
lol. you believe silly things.
Kami Nana The definition of feminism is a 1 sided argument, it even says for women at the end. If they were for equality for all than they would be considered egalitarian.
I'm not a feminist nor do I believe that men and women should be "equal". NewsFlash: Men And Women Are Different. More at 11.
It's funny how "feminist" never talk about how they want the privilege of being drafted like we do. So I guess I have that in common with feminists now that I think about it. We both don't think women should be drafted into the military.
I'm a woman and I agree.
then your an egalitarian
XxAleenazxX "Group mentality is fucking stupid and primitive. If you can do something and have the skills for it, do it. Gender, race, class and so on shouldn't hold a person back. Judge people based on their individual merit, not what group or category they belong to."
The irony here is that feminism is the exact opposite of this.
XxAleenazxX Feminists want to take merit out of it and institute arbitrary quotas and increase female representation just for the sake of having more women. Nobody is stopping women from trying their hand at whatever career they want... they can study whatever major they want in college. In fact women make up 60% of university enrollment. Notice you don't see men bitching and complaining about sexism, now do we??
jasmine 2Safi Women can do everything you listed. There is literally nothing you are prevented from doing on account of your gender. That's why the only feminists the remain are extremists. Your dictionary definition is a joke... people judge based on actions not an academic ditionary definition Lol
As a proud Woman Against (modern day) Feminism, I just want to thank you so much for making this video!!! You rock girl!!!
Thanks Karen!
Julie Borowski , I am saddened that you are getting patted on the back for such ignorance that you are spewing. Your basic argument is "I do not agree with feminism because a few feminists say stupid things." Is it most feminists saying these things you disagree with? Is it a plurality of feminists? I am sure you have no idea. You just watch the feminists that get the most attention for saying controversial things and you hopelessly mangle their messages to mean something totally different from what it is. Then you assume that is what feminists are. However, you're free to keep spreading your stupidity. Good luck in your endeavors to create more mindless troglodytes.
Hamish James , I am a male, silly. Yes, society has put women before men when it comes to safety, but not when it comes to freedom and respect. This is a common poor debating tactic from your side: you point to an area where women "have it better" and you think that means you've disproved feminism. No, the reason why men are "disposable" is because of societies in which THEY created which were based on "honor" and the belief that women were weak and inferior. Lots of the "problems" that men have are the natural outgrowth of patriarchal tenants to begin with.
***** women are given their value at birth due to their high reproductive value to society. If 95% of women died it could be crippling to a society because the other 5% can only have a few kids in their lifetime. Since one man can have unlimited children throughout their lifetime a man's reproductive value to society is very low and they have to prove their value to society through their ability to be useful to it otherwise they can be perceived as a burden or at least have no value to society. Women are protected because throughout history it was the only way society could survive when life was truly tough.
Gene Anthony , again, you are talking about one aspect in which women are valued more. What feminism wants is for women to be treated equally in all facets of life. And women simply are not treated equally even in America. Do you deny this simply fact?
I reject feminism because I "judge it by its actions instead." Well said. Actually, the whole 4 minutes was great! This came up on TV here, and they only gave a voice to the feminism side (a comedian who "does _not_ find it funny"), making-out that all women against feminism are idiots who don't understand history. Grrrr.
Yeah history, exactly, women WERE marginalised previously in western cultures but the whole point of a revolution is resolution! The fact that women are still being taught about this imaginary patriarchy and current day oppression against women is an insult and a disgrace to the millennia of women throughout history who were genuinely marginalised and ostracised. You could even argue that today in the western and even other parts of the world is probably the best time to be a woman! Ever!
ThePhatnuss Yes, I doubt the women's suffrage would like what feminism is today!
Daniel Allan I don't think women were that oppressed either. I can see myself quite happy in the Regency or Victorian period...if I weren't poor. _True_ oppression is and always has been of the poor.
I don't need feminism because I don't need to blame some imaginary patriarchy for my problems.
My father sent me off to college against my wishes. He was a cop so I didn't argue. He even picked my major as education because he said I would have job security and great benefits. Fabulous. HAving a 'career' I didn't even care for was fine because it was my turn to work while my husband went to college. I supported him 100%. We waited 9 years to have a child. So now not only do I have to go to work I also have the housework, cooking, and cleaning to do in my off hours. Even on weekends. By the time our child turned 6 I began to unravel from the stress and my health suffered. I would have MUCH rather have stayed at home happy, productive, and secure without a ruthless string of boss after boss after boss I could NEVER please. After a nervous breakdown, I am happy and home doing all the cooking, cleaning, and home-improvement projects I struggled to do before! I HATE feminism. I hate how it almost destroyed my life. I am an emancipated women at home where I am queen!
WHEEEEEEEE!
***** I'm not familiar with that. What does it mean?
I am very happy at home :)
+Sarjenka C I'm sorry but, feminism has achieved the right for you to choose what you want to do...If you let your father or the society decide for you, what you have to do, it's not actually the fault of feminism...(It's actually what feminism is against)
I'm sorry for you that you had such a struggle, and I'm happy that you are happy now, but you had the opportunity to choose, why didn't you live the life you wanted in the first place?
Extreme Catholic Child Abuse at home. Now I have PTSD and I've been diagnosed Bi-polar. You have to keep in mind that not every woman has been raised the same as you have. I was NOT allowed to have any self-esteem or pride for my accomplishments.
I used to associate myself with Feminism. I NEVER "was a feminist" but I was sympathetic to the cause and helped forward many of their agendas. Recently however, I've been looking at the issues differently (with the help of many of you) and after doing a lot of research into the history of women and men, and the science behind our behaviors - especially sexually, and looked at the actual statistics feminists try to propagate, I realized that I had been mislead. I fell for the Feminist trap.
Sure equality for men and women is good, very few sane people will deny that, it's what we all want, HOWEVER the ideology of Feminism is either off-mark, unnecessary or counter-productive and hypocritical.... not to mention many times lacking in merit.
Also, why is it that nowadays "Feminine" is positive and "Masculine" is negative? I grew up as a young boy in the 90's where masculine tendencies of boys was repressed and scrutinized, as if they were defective.... that is such BULLSHIT and ironically it's sexist of Feminists to argue this!
I'm so glad I got off the Feminist bandwagon before I put my name and face on TV or on the internet and would embarrass myself with this nonsense.
FUCK FEMINISM.
The Millenial Generation has been referred to by many as "The Feminine Generation"
The Greatest Generation and the Baby Boomers were very masculine in their characteristics, Millennials are not.
How many times were you taught, "Violence solves nothing?" - that's feminine
How many times were you taught, "It takes two people to start a fight?" - that's feminine.
How many times were you taught that girls "like sensitivity" in men? - that's feminine.
How many times were you taught, "EVERYBODY IS A WINNER!"? - That's feminine.
How many times were you taught that "effort trumps results?" - that's feminine
How many times have you been caught in Political Correctness? - PC is Feminine
How many schools have banned "contact sports/games" for children such as tag, red rover red rover etc. etc. A LOT that's how many. As a kid in elementary school I saw school after school in California and Oregon ban those things because they weren't girl friendly and taught boys "too much aggression and masculinity." which is bullshit. WOMEN were behind all of those decisions.
I'm a former Marine. The military while I was in was falling apart because it was being made women-friendly which is contrary to warrior ethos and tradition where hyper-masculinity is paramount.
Need I continue?
The values of the younger generations, and those that are being purported in schools, in government and perhaps even some churches are feminine values.
Women have been the primary benefactors of affirmative action and have benefited from quite a lot over the last four decades. They having been the majority at almost all coed schools for close to FIVE decades now.... they have had a lot more influence over society in that time frame than they like to admit.
That's my point. If you were born before 1980's or so then a lot of this probably doesn't apply to you, and you may have no idea what I'm talking about... and THAT is even more my point.
It's worse than you think. That old adage "boys will be boys" is fundamentally true at the basic biological level.
Boys and girls think and react differently because of basic biology. One way isn't better than the other, they are just different. If you start telling boys at a young age that feminine stuff is good and masculine stuff is bad, that will screw them up big time because it's counter to thier wiring. This is one reason boys go nutty and go on school shooting sprees. It's not the sole reason, but it's one factor. In school, masculinity is suppressed, in the media it is lauded. John Maclane wasn't a sensitive man of the 80's. The Terminator wasn't all "Let's be friends". If boys don't have a healthy masculine outlet, they repress then it just explodes out later.
gunjunky7520 exactly
Also a 90's child & have all the same experiences, right up to the banning of physical contact sports at my school.
Hamish James wait, as in the didn't ban physical contact sports, or they did?
The patriarchy theory holds as much weight as the illuminati theory.
Or most other conspiracy theories. Those are just made for patholgical paranoid people.
Didn't know that "patriarchy" was a theory.
The more you know.
Nermin Mamedova
The patriachy theory used in feminist works is a theory, it is not about patriarchal societies, but about a paranoid world view. Just like there has been true illuminaty once, but that has nothing to do with what people imagine them to be today.
Drudenfusz "The patriachy theory used in feminist works is a theory, it is not about patriarchal societies" HAHAHAHA!! The ridiculousness of your right-wing hypocrisy is so obvious, but you're so indoctrinated you can't even see the oxymoronic shit you type!
Non Feminist women are far ahead more attractive on the female attractiveness scale. Just saying....
+Mandroid321 Don't say that, they'll lose credibillty!
+Kaapo Hämeenaho
Their not.. That's the lie they tell you betas to keep you in check.
You should ask yourself why your women are always cheating on you with masculine men?
But then your name looks Swedish... So I have little hope for you...
*****
Ah right...
Sorry.
Sarcasm is always a tough one in literature.
+Kaapo Hämeenaho
I normally use quotations.. but someone always falls for it. This time it was me.. Sorry again about that dude.
you're right. all of my attractive gfs are against feminism
It's funny that without feminism, and women and men who have fought for our freedom as a woman, this girl could not even make a video and upload to internet
She definitely wouldn't have been able to do it if it hadn't been for a *man* inventing a computer and a *man* inventing the internet.
PacificRimNZ yap, and then some "feminists", they really are feminazis want to disappear men and everything that men did... Feminism has helped a lot of woman in the world to get rights, now some of crazy ladies want all the power, and that's no ok. People just don't understand that we have to live free
Yeah, classical feminism. Not today's "a male killing a female on Call of Duty is rape" feminism.
Feminism has done nothing but rip society apart & create hate & contempt between the genders. It's a disgusting, self-serving ideology based on lies.
At one point in history feminism played a good part, in 21st century America (where most of the feminist live) is useless...
Could not agree more.
:)
Great channel and content! I love that you don't take yourself too seriously.
Thanks! Nah, I certainly don't ;)
Julie Borowski Don't worry your secret isn't safe with me. :P I didn't know Ron Paul had groupies til I saw you! :P
Julie Borowski
Does one have to take themselves seriously to have others take them seriously??
LivelysReport
Not necessarily. But it does say they are approachable. And won't try to rip your eyes out if you disagree with them.
Julie Borowski You're like Steve Shives, an entertainer, but then again he'd call any ''woman against Feminism'' ''a misogynist self-hating bitch'' or something because they *Do* consider themselves to be anything other than enternainers, in his world only Femerrhoids can consider themselves serious. (--_--) what a brainless douche...
Feminism today is more like continuing the victimization theories. Intelligent women are waking up! Thanks for posting Julie!
I don't get the war on women thing. I support my wife 100%, and other women too.
Convincing people they are victims is only way the democRAT party has any power.
Under obama, women have faired worse, then the dems who blame repubas for their failures.
Look at slavery, who was fighting to keep slaves? DemocRATS, who started the KKK, democRATS, what party had the last KKK member in the senate? The democRATS, what party is afraid of giving kids the choice of what school to go to? DemocRATS.
By race, blacks have faired worse under obama and the democRATrule than any other race. By sex, women have suffered more.
The woman's right to vote? Republicans. Civil Rights Bills? republicans again.
Look it up.
One thing I learned growing up was if the liberals ever get control, they'll destroy everything they touch and push everything immoral. National Organization for Woman was big in the 70's and my mother was against those mental cases. Here we are today, the percentage is almost nil but, they whine like babies screaming to be heard only to degrade women. Anyone sucked into these liberal movements get what they deserve. There isn't a person on this earth that wasn't born equal, it's the corruption that divides. Lucifer works hard at getting to the youth to corrupt them or murdering them before they comes out of the womb, another liberal movement. Thankfully there's woman today that are aware and pushing this BS aside.
runman1271 EXCELLENT!!! AGREED!!!
Scott Smith Exactly, women (feminists) create the war on women because it gets them sympathy & attention & it allows them to manipulate the masses. Men are naturally inclined to support women, & women know that (be it sub-consciously or otherwise).
Hell, we even support them when they turn around & call us "evil oppressors" despite the heavy sacrifice of life & freedom men have made throughout history to support their families. Hint - Men have sacrificed a lot more for women then women have ever sacrificed for men. It's known as the disposable male vs child bearing female dynamic.
& no, I'm not talking about me or think that I'm better because I'm a man, I've sacrificed fuck all for women. I'm talking about brave men who sacrificed everything for their families, & yet it's almost considered common knowledge that "men oppressed women" in historical times, which couldn't be further from the truth.
Some thanks ladies, some thanks.
I see alot of comments saying feminism is about gender-equality.
When its actually just about women, thats why its called feminism, because its for women.
Equality is about equal rights for everyone, thats called a humanist.
You know, I like your channel more very time you post a video. It's rare to see common sense in the world nowadays.
Good to hear! Thanks!
Julie Borowski No, thank you for bringing back some faith in humanity.
I didn't want this video to end... Ever!
Absolutely amazing.
Thanks!
Julie Borowski yeah, there is also a huge difference between the "feminism" taught in universities and the "feminism" presented to the public. when speaking to the public feminism = equality. however, when in an academic setting, famous feminists (Hillary Clinton) compare marriage to slavery and colonization while claiming that society benefits men at the expense of women.
its pretty dirty double talk.
Wacky Aaron Gallo and money too
I know a feminist that think guys aren't even human and that they are all boys because being a man implies that they are mature, which they are not. I can physically feel her stupidity when I am around her. It's painful
What's worse is when certain people think it's okay to use tragic incidents (such as mass shootings) to advocate for genocide of half the human race. I've actually seen that shit. "If we just get rid of men, we won't have this issue anymore" is my recollection of what they said a year or so ago on a friend's page (You know, a variation of the classic "if women ruled the world, there'd be no war or violence" line) and I responded with controlled outrage and pointed out how big of a lie "feminism isn't about hating men" was and how she just advocated for killing all men, which would be oh so horrible if the genders were reversed. I don't remember her saying anything else, but my goal wasn't to shock her into shutting up. It was to try to help her understand the reality of what she said. I think she got the message.
Savannah Stephens-Bloom I'm sorry to hear that.
Just because you have never experienced inequality as a result of your gender does not mean someone else hasn't either. It's like saying "well I've never had problem getting clean water, what's all the fuss about with access to clean water?" Sending a "positive message" by saying "women are not oppressed" does not erase reality.
hurr durr... women in the first world are oppressed.
MNYForever
Both genders are. It's more spaghettified. People are oppressed by people through gender roles.
WOMEN ARE NOT FUCKING OPPRESSED. Show me ONE way in which women in the western world are and then maybe I'll agree with you. What reality are you living in?
Jimbo Green
It is expected from every woman to be beautiful. That way, they have quite a lot of pressure on them. Then, they are educated to weakness. "I can't play football 'cos mummy says I can't ruin my new shoes". One who is educated to weakness is, per definition, oppressed, but will also be an oppressor through pettiness. I mean, I'm pretty sure that you know more petty women than men. Then, men are educated as the "ugly gender"- which until a certain age is a disadvantage, then, dismissal of beauty ideals means freedom.
I thought the same. Just because SHE had a good life it doesn't mean we should ignore all those women who get degraded/objectified/abused/raped/killed just because they were BORN female. Feminism has a very good concept and everyone should support it - ESPECIALLY women for fuck's sake... or else it's like you say "ok I may be a woman and have an ok life, but fuck all the other slutty bitches. I'm special!". If you don't like it, just let it be. If you feel the NEED to create a group named "women against feminism" then you obviously try to fight feminism which is totally laughable since it makes you as bad as those "feminazis". Besides that, feminism just wants the problems of women to END, I don't see anything wrong with that. Also, as long as a woman is shamed for her clothing choices or having sex or being raped, feminism is still absolutely necessary. I mean for fuck's sake, when a boy has sex he gets high-fived but when a girl does it she is a slut?! Bitch please, it takes both for sex. The society itself makes the girl an object, a trophy for the boy who fucked her. Anyone who "can't see" how flawed that logic is, is simply getting benefit from the whole situation.
Funny thing: These SJW keep saying something like "the dictionary definition of feminism is...", but when I point to the dictionary definition of sexism is get "but sexism is more than just the dictionary definition, it's power and that's why women can't be sexist".
It's interesting how the dictionary is useful only when they need it to be.
I'm a female and not a fan of feminism myself. I guess I'm one of those ignorant women lol And if you look into the government's involvement with feminism (i.e. Gloria Steinem), you wouldn't like it either.
Bravo on not adopting the victim label. Good video. Cheers!!!
Nicely done!
My thinking on the subject in a nutshell, although ironically I get the most flack from men because I don't identify with or support feminism.
silver strands Not with this guy you don't I applaud you.
Kory Millett It's one of those things where on paper it sounds good of course women should be equal or have the same opportunities as men that shouldn't have been an issue in the first place - but in practice it's just been distorted to fit an agenda, and not one of equality.
+Alex Armstrong they're trying to get laid. White knighting the way to the ladies pants. Maybe.
I know right?
+Kory Millett Nor me.
I used to be a feminist when I was younger, but I grew up and my beliefs and views of the world changed. I don't like what the movement has become, especially with the badgering, bullying, and guilt-tripping other women for disagreeing with them. Thank you Julie for speaking about this topic in this video.
Thanks for watching!
Julie Borowski No problem! Always a treat :)
Thank you for coming to your senses.
LOVE! thankyou
:)
Julie Borowski Amazing!!!!!! We need more women like you.
Julie Borowski
You Rock Julie... Truly.
While I like feminism, I do know that there are different kinds of people on the world and that my fiance is not a feminist, she HATES it. She is not oppressed, or do I oppress her. I personally think the word feminist gets a bad rep, and I do not think we should judge feminist based on a few nuts.
That being said, I do not look at women who do not call themselves feminist as dumb, or whatever. I personally think feminism is good for men and women. Equality for the sexes is good, and it will be blog for our society. Ok, I am done lol.
***** After your marriage ends in divorce and you get screwed over by the divorce industry - come back here and tell us how feminism is good for men and women and it is only a few nuts that give it a bad rep. Yeah right!
Trust me kind sir. You need to do a little more research for your own sake before it is too late for you.
Do some research, a woman with cancer got took to the cleaners by her husband. Divorce is so getting more balanced in the courts. But, there is some more to do.
Women used to get the kids and a lot of the property before feminism hit big in the 60s. It is the idea that women cannot protect or provide for themselves, so they need to be taken care of.
***** you can cling to the rare exception if it makes you feel better but we all know that overwhelmingly men are screwed in divorce thanks to feminism.
Can you prove that?
***** dude there is a mountain of evidence to prove fathers are screwed over in divorce. Good grief. If you want to dispute that go join the creationists denying evolution.
The worst part is, My sister is a Feminist.
But the funny part is, me and my mom joke about her being a feminist.
This is just like my argument against PETA. They will tell you all day long what loving, caring, wonderful people they are. Just don't take a look at the things they do or what they actually stand for.
.... and this is why I ♡ you.
;)
Julie Borowski celeste piehler
I font know why this is, but in my personal experience women and men who are against the feminazi movement always end up really attractive, while on the other side the guys and gals just look.... sickly... and I'm not referring to overweight (although that seems to be the case too). There just seems to be a huge difference IMO.
I've always thought of the modern feminist movement as a way for the insecure crowd to rally behind a movement that puts people down for having enjoyable lives or lots of attention directed at them. It is therefore not at all surprising to me that these same feminists are deriding women for being supermodels or having fit or attractive bodies ("catering to men", the Norwegian mom post-pregnancy scandal, 'modelling', etc etc.)
YOU ARE AN UNEDUCATED FUCK FACE
Kelsey Allen keep showing your colors, ;-) people will surely follow you now
Agreed with everything in this video. Although, I used to identify as a feminist, but feminism didn't turn out to be what I thought it was. It it a 'movement' (if you could even call it that) which is fueled by negativity, and I hate that.
this is the first vid of yours i have seen, very good. really enjoyed it. :)
See everyone, Julie is not a feminist because she wants me to like her :)
No. Screw that ;)
It doesn't matter what the definition is, it matters what the movement's/people's actions.
This video is so much better muted and minimized.
***** Typical Genghis Khan response.
gary wood Typical gary wood response.
***** why did you make this comment?
Julie, did you see online those march4justice protest that were in Australia earlier this year?
How you present your videos is great, entertaining, humorous and factual. All round win!
Thanks!
Most welcome.
"Feminism is the belief that we can achieve equality for both genders by solely focusing on the issues of one of them."
-TheAmazingAtheist
Yeah an I think he was being extremely generous. I mean look at all the areas where feminists have fought tooth and nail to maintain their special privileges and inequlity against men. E.g. Family law.
I'm all for equal rights but I am not a feminist.
I know what you are thinking.......mind....blown!
Feminism: The advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes. (Doesn't say anything about sexism or female supremacy and gynocentrism).
Nazism: the political principles of the National Socialist German Workers' Party. (Doesn't say anything about racism or white supremacy and Eurocentrism).
There's a fucking good reason why we judge things by their actions and not by their propaganda.
Feminism: The belief that women should have the same rights as men, but none of the responsibilities that comes with.
Criticizing Feminism should be illegal! Please accept this thumbs up as a token of my disgust for your video.
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire
Every time I see this I really have to say it loud YOU'RE AWESOME JULIE BOROWSKY
The whole idea of anti-feminism is that the modern day interpretation of feminism will not reach gender equality. It does not say that gender equality is a bad thing and we should go back to our ways in the 50's. One can argue, that anti-feminism is actually a feminist movement.
If feminism was truly about equality, it wouldn't be called feminism. It would be called something that would include both genders (or all 27 genders, i cant keep them straight). You cant be for equality and not include the other side on the debate.
Thank you, Julie!
:)
Thanks for posting, Julie! Great job on the video!
Coming back to say this. This was the exact video that started my transition out of feminism and sjw ideology. I had never seen your videos before, but something about it resonated with me. I’m so glad I saw it and am no longer going through life angry and feeling like a victim.
I love your videos Julie. Great wit and always on point.
Thank you!
They should also look up the definition of misandry. Misandrists are NOT feminists. Sadly these two groups of people are often thought of as a whole. You read the definition yourself, feminism is equality. I didn't realize til watching this that a huge percentage of people don't claim to be feminist which is really sad to me. Man or woman, feminism is equality for all.
Also, this just sounded kind of odd in my head, but just going by the definition of feminism, does that mean that women who still support equality between sexes are passive feminists? Think about it.
woman against feminism today loose sight of the whole idea...you have the freedom to express yourself because of the struggles and fight your mothers, grandmothers, great grandmothers have gone through they have already walked on fire, had to overcome so you have the privilege to speak your mind but don't destroy the foundation add to it with respect, and gratitude.
What about those men who died in wars trying to protect their beloved wives? What about the very concept of chivalry, which would make people look down on a man if he didn't respect a lady? What about the fact that men were expected to work hard in order to take care of their wives and kids? As far as I'm concerned, during the Ancien Régime, when peasants had excruciatingly bad lives because they were constantly stepped on by the upper classes, women weren't the only ones that made up the working class (far from it). I have never seen a feminist trying to draw attention to some of the problems faced by men throughout History. You make it seem that women were the only ones who ever suffered in the past, when it reality men also did. By the way, the fact that some women have been "oppressed" throughout History and that there was an actual reason for feminism to exist in the past doesn't justify its existence nowadays, along with all the stupidity/prejudice it fosters. It just seems that people like you have been brainwashed by third-wave feminism into believing that it remains a very good thing to the point where you no longer dare to question it, nor do you take an effort to realize how shitty it really is. A toy may be great at first, but if you break it, it becomes useless. Same thing goes for feminism, a toy so shitty that it should have already been thrown out of the windom a long time ago in most Western democracies.
Oh that's right yes you did if you were white however women of colour and minority groups didn't and still don't to a degree read your history before commenting ehhh christian???
feminism is also about woman of colour third wave feminism is also about women of colour...feminism is not just directed to white women also women of colour come back when you grow a brain.
***** Seeing you tell someone else to grow a brain is highly ironic, to say the least.
I think you hit the nail on the head in the last line.
Judge something by it's actions, not what it says it's supposed to be.
A lot of people get caught up in an ideology and will not look at what happens in the real world. Thank you.
Wow, you mean I only have to google the word feminism to learn what it means??? "googles feminism* Wow! That's amazing! Hey, next I'll look up the definition of sexism! *googles sexism* Huh... "prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex"... No mention of prejudice plus power being a requirement... well THAT can't be right.
There is a comic reviewer GUY, he said he is a feminist. First I thought he was joking, but nope. He was serious. :-/
Daniel Bermel Feminism is like communism. You can read how great it is, but the reality is different. Feminism makes no sense, there is no total equality. I also doubt that feminist women would take jobs like coal mining. Who are the loudest feminists now? The femen. They are the ones that get nake on the street and pees on public street, and vandalize Crucifixes. The Google says nothing about feminists should pee or run around public streets like crazies. But they are doing it. They they get suprised if other women says no to such behavior.
Or please explain to me how peeing in public helps equality between sexes. How vandalizing religious symbols help equality? If a woman vandalizes a crucifix, it means she just hurting religious women's feelings.
thatmaninblack
those are extreme examples. and daniel will be quick to point that out. but there are far less extreme examples, more subtle (or not so subtle) examples of feminism claiming to be working for equality but doing just the opposite. and based on my gut feeling alone, (i may be wrong) i feel like many of us will disagree with Daniel about those subtleties , which oddly enough, no longer defines daniel as a feminist, based on our interpretation of the dictionary definition, and his actual views. so what exactly is equality? since we all know what equality is, and we all claim to be for it? why are we arguing? hmmmmm... could it be that one of us has a totally skewed idea of what equality of the genders really means? (i think self proclaimed feminists have the skewed idea, and those who oppose modern western feminism have the correct idea)
Daniel Bermel "Equality, specifically in the feminist ideology, is concerned with but not limited to eliminating your sex/gender as a barrier to entry to opportunities" Are you trying to tell me that a woman can't become a coal miner if she wants to? What rights do women not have that a man has ? I can tell you a couple that woman have that men don't.
"that doesn't mean you should make the decision for all women"
Where did I say that exactly? Becuase I don't remember that. You misunderstood what I said.
Daniel Bermel Attention. I found multiple articles about what happened to men to peed at a public place. Here is a hint:
wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_you_be_a_sex_offender_for_peeing_in_public
They didn't do it for attention, just someone seen them doing it. I don't find any news about women got arrested and got on a list for doing such thing. "Equality." Same about getting naked. Same about getting naked and running around at a public place. (That's femen member do.)
All wrong, however it shows how sometimes women get away with things that men can't.
Also, if men talk like feminists they are called "sexist pigs". :-I
As I've said before, citing the dictionary definition of feminism as an argument it its favor is like saying it's impossible for a boat to sink because a boat, by definition, is a craft that FLOATS on water. Unless I'm mistaken, the definition makes no mention of sinking.
Great video; it was short, sweet, and to the point. Couldn't have said it any better myself.
Subscribed. I was just yelled at for what she's talking about
ROFL Julie nice video as usual
Thanks man.
i just gotta say, your eyebrows are awesome... and great video lol
Great to see your site up and running.
I love seeing women stand up against feminism. Great stuff Julie
Really amazing video Julie!
Thanks!
Julie Borowski
You're welcome!
This comments section is pure comedic gold.
I've been watching a lot of your videos lately, and I agree with a lot of points you make. Feminism, in my circle, which is 8th and 9th graders, is about changing the future for both men and women, by removing negative stereotypes that hurt all people, and avoiding discrimination. Many radicals have different opinions, and I believe those are wrong. Any person who insults another person based on their personal beliefs is rude, try not to judge feminism by jerks trolling online!
(I love your videos btw)
to quote a famous movie quote with a twist! " i will find you and i will marry you" no but in all seriousness if more women were normal like you then the world would be a much happier place
robinchwan "normal" is a very, very subjective term......
Justice Troll What is normal for the spider, is chaos for the fly.
Sarcasm totally suits you Julie. Er... that's not sarcasm.
I'm not as polite as you though young lady: fuck Feminism! :)
Three and a half years later, and it's still relevant. Well played, Julie Borowski.
You just got yourself a subscriber. Top quality video.
Ok that sounds so stupid...women against feminism. It sounds like they are saying "we don't want to be equal." It's fine to be against generalizing men and all that though...they just need another name for themselves.
They just don't want to be part of this ignorant, gynocentric, hate club which is feminism.
GardeàVue
Well you are right...it has become a hate club. Not for everyone...but the man haters are giving feminism a bad name and ruining it for everyone. I just got in an argument with some of them the other day who were saying it's sexist and wrong for men to pay for dates but they'd still lead a guy on they didn't like and let him pay so they could get free stuff because of patriarchal society or some crap.
*****
Wow, that's some dishonest, loathsome behavior. I'll make sure I never date a self-described feminist.
I'm pretty sure we just don't like the douchey ones...the problem is when someone assumes ALL men are douchey, as that is obviously not true.
Here is one thing that annoys me...people always joke about getting out the shotgun when their teen daughters start dating. Men probably do this the most. Why do we have to assume all teen boys are a certain way?
Awesome, awesome, awesome! I love an analytical thinker.
How condescending! Feminist cannot stand critics.
Women did not become liberated from men just to be told what to do by other women.
this video is so satifiying to watch she has common sense
It is amazing Julie, a huge chunk of your video was intended to get across the point that the "definition" of feminism is irrelevant to the discussion - I loved that look on your face in the quick pause moment after you read the definition. The feminist movement is made up of people - activists, authors, academics, and leaders. The thoughts and actions of these people are what feminism actually is in real life. And yet here in the comments section are several posts by feminists who seem to have completely missed the point. One even telling you that you ARE a feminist since you believe in equal rights, you got that Julie? You are a feminist, you don't get a say in whether or not you identify as one. Ethical Erica explains this quite clearly, and we know she is right because she is a feminist and therefore the best and most decent and most smartest person ever! Plus she's vegan, so even a way better person than most feminists - who are the best....well except for atheist feminists Erica is that too, which makes her even more mosts smartest - much more moistest - so that means vegan atheist feminists are the very most bestest. Got it?
Thank you for making this. Wishing you all the best.
the def of feminism doesn't even logically make sense. It's a unicorn fairytale.
The movement should be changed to Equalism, because that is what the name implies instead of having a single gender in the title. Then maybe everyone can join in equal rights and not focus only on woman's rights.
Absolutely right.
I preferred the term egalitarian but whatever floats your boat, unless it's feminism of course.
it isn't male rights or female rights. it is individual rights. Let's all get with the times
This young lady has a cute voice. Me likie!
I agree with all of this. Telling someone to look up the meaning of feminism is like telling someone to look up the definition of bitch. It's a female dog, but I'm pretty sure when someone calls a chick that, they don't mean female dog. Like the stupidity blows me away...
It irks me especially when people act like if you're against feminism then you think women shouldn't have rights.... I'm sure no one's rights will be taken away (or believes it should )if feminism ceased to exist. I'm talking about modern feminism btw.(Most people do when complaining about it)
There's no point of feminism. It just creates lots of hate and hateful people. I'm not talking about those that actually care about equality, but if you live in America, what do men have that women don't?? I don't understand this. I know socially, some people make sexist remarks, but that doesn't infringe on anyone's rights-_-
Every time I hear feminism defended by its definition, I want to ask "So, yes, you can be sexist against men? And yes, you can be racist against whites?" Because, after all, if you look these terms up...
Wiki? Really? Julie, you could have found a MUCH better source.
They said that Women Against Feminism don't know the definition. I read a definition.
Despite that I always question the credibility of Wiki, still a GREAT video.
Paul-Gregory Matuszak why? it is no different than any other site. if you're gonna dismiss wiki at least back it up with an argument
I've watched Wiki editors change the site to conform to misinformation news reporters on TV spew, deleting actual facts in the process.
Wikipedia is far from infallible.
I go to direct source information. Now many wiki pages do contain source citations and references to help get you started.
BTW, when I was an educator (teaching college) we would automatically fail any paper that cited Wiki.
what's right is right regardless of who it comes from. dismissing it without giving any rational argument against the topic(even if it seems to make sense) just because it came from wiki is pretty low. would you entertain that perhaps you're not a very good teacher?
Well said madam.
Thank you, Julie. Always ahead of the curve...
it's always interesting how people who demand everyone sit down and listen when women speak, are the first ones to shut women down for speaking up with opposing criticism
You cannot judge it by it's actions though. I am a feminist and very proud of it too, but that doesn't mean that I applaud to "feminists" who are radical, who blame all men.
And the word 'Feminist' has a negative tone to it now days simply because it's made to be like that.
Research on it. Don't just read the first thing that shows up when you Google Feminism. Do some research. Find UA-cam Videos of proper people who explain it properly. Look up people like Emma Watson and their campaign. Listen to their speeches. Read about it. But looking it up on Wikipedia and listening to the things the Media tell you about it, is wrong. Especially with a Topic like this.
It may have it's bad sides, but that is the fault of the people who get it wrong. And it's a shame that a lot of Women are afraid to call themselves Feminist.
There is nothing wrong with wanting to be treated equally.
(P.s.: Please do note how I wrote "Feminists" because those people, are in no way feminists. They got it all wrong.)
***** But that isn't feminism. Feminism is about being equal. Social, political and economical.
Theodora Black Feminism, by its very name cannot be about equality. You will never see a feminist address the problem with father's rights in our court system. You will never see a feminist insist that more money must be spent to "equal out" the number of homeless men on the streets to reach the same number as a percentage of our population. You will never see a feminist demand that women sign up for the draft to be equal to men. You will never see a feminist demand that a father have equal time off when his baby is born.
It isn't about equality.
Peter Anon She is most likely just NAFALT'ing anyway Peter. She is most likely western right? Here in the US females have more rights, not less. And I imagine UK and Scandinavia must be similar, after all they are so far left that they are allowing themselves to be colonized by Islam. If the women there think they have anything to bitch about now....wait til they get a taste of sharia.
Are you aware the amount of stupid you just laid out in your first sentence, let's take a second to re-read that little nugget of nutty "You cannot judge it by it's actions.". Wow. So should I not judge a Nazi, because he may have been forced into the draft? Should I be overly trusting with LA police because not all of them are "that bad", or can they be guilty by association?
Theodora Black "And the word 'Feminist' has a negative tone to it now days simply because it's made to be like that."
I'm confused by this statement. Who is the "it's" in the "because it's made" and how are they making the word 'feminist' into a negative tone? Do you have any specific examples or references?
*mashes the like button a million times*
Woot!
Can you make a video about The Emma Watson He vs She speech
and your thoughts on it ?
Julie Borowski You've got a new subscriber. I'm gonna watch your other videos now.
watch out now. they'll label you as a rape apologist for this vid. AHHH
Julie was obviously very "rapey" for criticising feminism
i know! if you listen hard enough. you'll hear her say "rape should be legal".
Are there any lovely WAFs (women against feminism) out there in this comment section? :)
Fuck relationships m8.
Don't want to spend thousands of dollars on a female and then she can get ALL of my money and my house and my children, when she decides she doesn't love me anymore.
***** Thanks, and windwaker is a great game.
+Kirby I am male feminist.
A Proud spineless mangina.
A semi-man with self hatred.
- Words spoken by onision.
Hamza Al-Gadamsi Onision is a moron.
+Kirby A spineless self-hating mangina idiotic moron.
there go 3 minutes and 52 seconds of my life that I will never get back
omg why have on not seen your channel before. honest and brutally funny. thanks for the laughs! you now have it on the record that you know the "true" definition of feminism, lets see them tell you that you got it wrong now!
There are two definitions to feminism and you should most likely get your definition from an actual dictionary: instead of wikipedia. Also checking the citations can help further your understanding of it. (Yes, I watched the video but this still had to be said)
Judging an entire ideology by the actions of some of it's adherents doesn't hold up to the history that ideal represents. Civil rights within themselves would have gained very little support if one bends to the dynamic of public opinion.
Human beings like to avoid conflict that requires a sustained opposition. Being that feminism is such a contentious topic the feedback it's receiving is due to repetition, not the qualities it actually stands for.
Your position is based on saying things people like to hear and you're channels value is based on presenting things that are watchable to your audience. Feminism focuses on the disparity between the sexes which isn't going to just go away. So instead of trying to negate a movements grievances with whatever group it happens to be, how about addressing the *actual* issues important to both of those groups.
That would be a start in a the right direction instead of this drivel.
I'm really sorry Julie but you ARE a feminist. If you believe in equal rights for men and women then you ARE, by definition (not a wikipedia article, but by actual definition) a feminist. So you can make as many videos as you like but if you want men and women to be treated equally, you're a feminist. You don't need to be part of the "movement", but you are one regardless. And I'm glad to hear you're sticking up for men when they're told they're "all evil" or whatever. I've never heard any feminists say that but if you have heard people say that then of course you should stand up against it. It's a very feminist thing to do, because we are all equal and should be treated that way.
But I do think it's sad that, even though you're a feminist, you still think there is something wrong with calling yourself that. If you don't like the men and women who you think are giving feminism a bad name then why don't you try to give feminism a good name? Because you literally cannot say that you believe in the social, political, economic equality of men and women and also say you're not a feminist. Because if you believe in such equality, you are a feminist. It's time to own it and start becoming a person who represents feminism in a positive way, instead of turning against gender equality based on a few people who you think are doing the wrong thing. If you think feminism would be a better movement if there were more feminists like you then you should own up to being a feminist and be one of those people.
It sort of reminds me of some white people I know who use excuses for being racists. They say things like "but I've heard black people say racist things against white people so it's okay to hate black people because of it" ...no, it's not. Yeah, there may be women who are sexist too but that doesn't make it okay to take away gender equality for everyone else. If you believe we should all be equal then you're a feminist and don't let the actions of few man-haters (who couldn't possibly be real feminists by definition) change the fact that you believe in gender equality and are therefore a feminist.
For the record, that is what people mean when they say "these people should look up the definition of feminism". Because, a lot of the time, people say things like "I'm not a feminist because I believe I am equal to men" which is like saying "I'm a racist because I think all races are equal" it just doesn't make sense. If you think men and women deserve to be treated equally then you're a feminist and it makes no sense to say otherwise.
Actually you're a humanist/egalitarian. It makes no sense to say otherwise.
Women who say they are not feminists are not saying because they don't believe in gender equality. Like Julie said they judge the feminist movement on it's actions and not by the actual definition.
Astroghouls Actually it does. I'm a humanist... but that has NOTHING to do with feminism or gender equality. You need to look up the definition of humanism, too. I'm a humanist because I'm an atheist who believed in logic and critical thinking and the value of human beings. And I'm a feminist because I believe in gender equality. Two different thing. I'm ALSO an egalitarian because I believe all things are equal. In fact, you can't be an egalitarian and NOT be a feminist. It's just not possible. Because if you believe all things are equal, then you'd probably also believe that men and women should have equal social, political and economic rights. Unless you're bat shit crazy.
For the record I'm also a vegan because I believe in animal rights. I'm a social liberalist because I believe social justice should be a driving political force. I'm also many, many other things. That doesn't take anything away from the fact that I'm a humanist, an atheist, an egalitarian AND.... a feminist. I am all those things. By definition.
Kory Millett You still, literally, did not understand me nor any of the feminists who keep saying "look up the definition". It's honestly not that hard to understand. Feminism means you believe in social, economic and political equality of the two genders. So if you believe in that, you're a feminist whether you like the "movement" or not. You don't need to even be part of the "movement" because the "movement" isn't part of the definition of feminism. So she can not like the actions of SOME feminists but she can't say that because of that she's not a feminist. It doesn't work like that. And that is why people keep saying "look up the definition". If you believe in gender equality you are, by definition, a feminist. End of story. It's honestly quite a simple concept to understand. And when people don't understand it, you can see why people think they're morons.
Ethical Erica Okay well I believe in social, economic, and political equality between the genders, and I am a guy so does that make me a feminist too?
" I don't need feminism because I don't need to blame some imaginary patriarchy for my problems".
UA-cam doing weird things again. Your newest video didn't show in subscriptions but did in recommended from another video so i watched it. None of the videos of yours showed as viewed in the recommended from there so i clicked, not only was the view stripped but the like was as well. i know I watched it because I'd previously commented.
I identify as a feminist, this does not mean that I feel oppressed, owed to, that I hate men or any of those things you have mentioned. I am a feminist simply because I believe in equality, because I believe that if a guy wants to wear nail polish he can damn well do so without being called a queer.
The reason why I dislike the women against feminism trend, is that although some of them have legit reasons, many are outrageous stereotypes. Because according to many of those on there I am a disrespectful, bitchy slut. None of which are true. You can not support feminism, or be against it, what the problem is, is when people's reasons are so outrageous that suddenly because I'm a feminist I have no class.
I was severely bullied by a boy, to the point where for years I would hyperventilate trying to tell my parents anything. And despite that I never hated him, I never wanted pity, heck I hated it. So no, not all "feminists" are what you described. But it is clear that feminism isn't as it was back in the day, they won us the right to vote, it's time modern feminists show their predecessors that we also can change things for the better, for both genders.
SweetBlossoms So what exactly will feminism do to ensure that nobody calls a man with painted nails a queer? Re-education?
And why is that a bad thing? Seriously. If a man paints his nails should we call him a "manly man"? No. So, should he just ignore the comment? Yes.
Because it doesn't matter what you do or how you do it the world is place big enough that someone out there would comment or insult you, that's why people just learn to ignore them.
You know the old saying: "sticks and stones may break my bones...", so as long as nobody harms another person they can say whatever they want because they are free to do so.
EGALITARIAN
In order for a problem to be fixed, one must acknowledge that there is a problem and make it known that it is a problem. This is what you label as complaining. This complaining brought women the right to vote, ability to have a job, to wear one's hair however they want, the evolution from corsette to bra, women wearing pants, and the ability for women to be out in public being postmodern and complain about all the work that women before them did so they can act like these victories are no big deal. All these things are brought to you by feminism and the feminist movement. You're welcome.
Jensena Mangus Man you so naïve. Feminism had nothing to with those things you listed. It started as some radical movement to break women from traditional roles. If feminism is so wonderful, than why have women made a whole website as to why they hate it?
There's websites for everything right now. There's websites for the KKK and child slave trades, but that doesn't automatically make them right. Feminism started in the 1800's with the argument for women to vote. That was the first wave. During WWII men were off to war and women and children worked in factories. Women wore pants to work for safety reasons. When the men came back women had to fight to keep their place in the work place and make pants a non-gendered clothing item.The second wave happened in the 1920's with flapper culture and the invention of birt control. Women wanted less bulky clothing which lead to the flapper dress and the brazier instead of the corsette. It goes on...dude even if you just knew the fashion history stuff you'd know these things. Research is your friend :D
Jensena Mangus First off the right to give women tom vote was the suffrage movement. Second what does the changing of the fashions have to do with feminism, that is called the changing of the times which happens gradually.
Jensena Mangus That remind me of the politicians in my country. They created a new tax for the olympics, to build stadiums and stuff. The event came and go but to this day we still have to pay that tax. The olympic games were great... like twenty years ago.
Julie, I saw somewhere on the internet that only 12.5% of women here in Australia identify themselves as feminist. Keep up the verbal fight against feminism as you look and sound beautiful. Wayne Holmes from Sydney, Australia.
My God, why aren't you viral. You deserve to be viral.