I was WRONG about the INVISIBLE AMP ... || The Outlast Trials
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- Опубліковано 19 кві 2024
- In this video I go over my recent analysis of the slightly broken Invisible AMP and give my take on how it currently fits the game and future improvement suggestions. Enjoy!
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All Background Music used in this Video:
The Forest OST - Geeze Lake
The Forest OST - Outside
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I mentioned this in the discord and the community manager told me that "sometimes they will still pull you out" so it seems like it's probably a random chance.
That is a very odd design choice then imo
@@TheKotzwurst The exact quote is "it is something that works sometimes, so sometimes when you hide they may still find you!"
I think they find you if they're too close to the hiding spot
@@pro11972 I've done quite a lot of testing and, like the community manager said, it seems pretty much like a random chance. Doesn't matter how close they are, how low health you are, etc etc. They just sometimes still pull you out if they see you enter it.
What ive noticed is that if the enemy is in an attack animation next to you as you enter the hiding spot, then it'll pull you out. As long as you are a distance away from the enemy they will not pull you out.
The most hilarious thing about invisible is hiding in a barrel, and a giant just staring right at you just ignoring you
I decided to use it in Toxic Shock Pervert the Futterman and I'm glad I did since it save my life so many times
It's also pretty funny peeking you head out of barrel and having the enemies just stare at you
Agree with your take on how to make Invisible more consistent. Based on the few times that my friend and I have used it, it seems to work about 90% of the time when an enemy sees you going into the hiding spot. The other 10% you’re straight up getting grabbed out of it. Someone else told me that this happens only when the enemy is already lunging at you before you have entered the hiding spot, but that doesn’t seem consistent either as you got away with it in this video.
90% of the time when I used this they always check the hiding spot next to me or the other side of the locker (which it would be funny if you could force the game to yoink your friends out of hiding) other 10% they yoink me out.... (Probably cuz I'm bad)
In terms of hiding spots, I think an amp that let you breakout of a hiding spot and blind an enemy would be cool but that’s not something i’ve thought over lol
If they gave an AMP like this conditions (activation time so time needed in the hiding spot, cooldown after use etc) I can see that being pretty fun and fair of a concept
Gonna try this out, thanks for sharing!!
Looking at your footage it seems like no matter if they see you go in as long as you peek with the AMP they don't pull you out and lose you..
I wonder how this works in multiplayer.. the amount of times that I been in a hiding spot and someone else is in a chase and loses the chase near my hiding spot and I'm getting pulled out is insane..
edit: I tested it and yes its inconstant AF even what I noted above does not work all the time.. the footage being seen here is a little deceptive event though Kotzwurst said it is inconsistent, he doest show how many times it actually fails.. When it works its cool but can't really make this work tbh
You should cover how X-ray was shadow buffed, I don’t see many people that know but it now shows big items such as Mannequins, Acid buckets and Bleach bottles
Having it be rng is still good I'd say it makes it so you can do this trick but it might have consequences meaning you shouldn't really be relying on it cuz it really is op to lose chase like this for newer players or casual players it's like the med rig being comfortable until you don't need it
That AMP is sometimes inconsistent. I had once a time where i was pulled out of the locker even though the enemy was fairly decent away. This makes me wish we could have a prescription where we can break free from being pulled out of hiding spots(Level 1: Button mashing fists,Level 2: insta break free with bottles and bricks,Level 3: Insta break free with bottles and bricks,will stun the enemy for at least a few secs).
Crush the s*x toys is interesting now. You no longer can pick up any box, y have to be 100% sure and y cant pick up any box from belt. Pinging the boxes is quote helpfull
Im saving my Green tickets for the new Rig, I still dont have stun maxed out, what do you recommend? Should I save them and wait for new rig or just upgrade stun fully?
Just upgrade everything, Stun is so good as is.
It is the first amp I have tried when the full-release came out. which I tried hiding when I was been chasing by the enemy and they caught me all the time. That time I didn't peek them at all. I saw this video and I think this invisible amp has a bug which will make you "INVISIBLE" while you're peeking in your hiding spot.
I have a little idea about the consistency thing, I guess they will grab you if you enter hiding spot too near enemy, there is a time I stun an enemy BEFORE enter hiding spot next to it and it still grab me after the stun effect, it can be prove in your video at 6:18 where that's the only time you enter hiding spot when the enemy is too near. I dont have time to test it out to prove it so mayb u can consider it
Will keep looking
Is it broken? Cause they still see me it seems like or is there a cool down I don’t know about
Apparently there is no cooldown and it feels very random more than anything
I've been running invisible almost every round since unlocking all the amps. I do agree that it should be changed to be consistent and have an explicit rule for how and when it works. The fact you can hide right in front of enemies and they (most likely) won't see you is too powerful. I don't think it should have a timer or only work a set number of times. Could it be balanced if it was just based on LoS? Being a player who prefers stealth gameplay, Outlast Trials is already very weak in this area. I want to take my time, look for my window of opportunity to move past enemies and complete objectives, but so often it is literally impossible to play that way and instead I am forced to sprint past enemies (or THROUGH them in the case of the OP stun rig, but that's another issue altogether) and I personally just don't find that as fun. This game encourages an offensive playstyle and neglects others in its current state. Invisible is one of very few things that help counter that fact.
Not really since if you know how hiding spots work you can already pretty much always use them, I mentioned it in the video but if enemies dont see you enter hiding spots they should never find you in there to begin with.
They still pull me out when I do it in front of them
damn... I rated it as lowest amp in my tier-list...
def not even close to the lowest.
@@godfrey4461 Lowest is Good Job Amp imo
I think it’s been patched 💀 mother goose Barry found me last night on ultra , unless there is a set distance you have to be from the enemy (I was in the C conveyor area and goose Barry came in and k/od my friend , I hide in a barrel with confidence and she grabbed me , even when peeking 💀
Nope its just a chance that it will not work as discussed in the video
@@TheKotzwurst you’re correct 💀💀 I watched half the vid 💀
Having it be rng is still good I'd say it makes it so you can do this trick but it might have consequences meaning you shouldn't really be relying on it cuz it really is op to lose chase like this for newer players or casual players it's like the med rig being comfortable until you don't need it