This guy is fishy Just doesnt make any sense to abruptly end something Also isnt it relocation if they are in newyork and not florida and also they are dual citizens .she can take them whenever she wants .he just was showing moves and i guess she had enough of it.under the english law seeing how he was a parent in marriage sophie is going to win in no time .
they are not divorcing under English law because they were not married under English law. She cannot PERMANENTLY relocate the kids because that is parental alienation. using words like "abduction" is malicious. This is not the UK. She will lose because she is being disingenuous.
Now he speaks after the PR bashing against Sophie. Now that he is been sued he finally has something to say. He is a controlling man if he wants to leave her then let her move on and share the custody if she wants to move to England it is her right
She deserves it. He’s not saying anything he can’t back up. Sounds like she was physically trying to get the kids to the UK before the divorce. Shady chic.
@ericeandco seems like he was living with them and he left with the kids for the tour. He could have left them with her if he didn't want to be the only one taking care of them, he is the shady one and the way he did things show us that he is a coward.
If he's not giving back their passports, that's quite literally illegal by international law. She's not playing dirty but he is and she's going through the correct channels to fix it.
Exactly! He fired the first shot by airing their dirty laundry to the public. That's just not OK. Therefore, I don't trust anything coming from him or his camp. Give me solid evidence or it didn't happen.
They have equal rights to be with their kids so I really hope they come to an agreement that’s in the best interest of the kids and not in order to spite each other. This separation hurts the kids more than it hurts them.
OK she knew about the court order in Florida. He’s not gonna violate that the court order in Florida will be over the lawsuit.because it was already filed well before She knew about it.
"it" was filed by him. He filed in Florida because he knew that the children would be stuck there because of it. Don't act as if this wasn't a calculated move by him.
She also has money and power, and they’re both white (if you also wanna add that). I don’t see the point you’re trying to make. This is a horrible situation. But people in the internet are crazy and are making up conspiracies and are extrapolating things that don’t even make sense 🤦🏻♀️
@@madhiravagmi2077 because they have expensive lawyers and money that's why it's always hard to get any custody or anything when they have more money and lawyers
And so does she. The children are British, as is their mother, and there was a prior agreement that they would live in the UK. Evidence thus far suggests he's the one doing his best to prevent amicability.
Kids are with Sophie, she just isn't allowed to take them out of the country untill the Florida court settles it. You might hate Joe but fathers have rights to be with their children too, they are not Sophie's property.
@@harshitabhuyan8892sure, fathers have rights too. And if she was illegally attempting to take them to the UK in order to keep them away from him, this exact same law would protect his rights. Because it's quite literally this exact situation that lead to the create of this agreement and he's in violation.
Righttt!! I feel like messy divorces are definitely for your 30s/40s, not your 20s. Like I'm one year older and I can't even imagine having to deal with a custody battle, two kids, and a shady ex-husband.
The real problem is why marry an American if you hate living there so much and need to be in England? When they got together it was probably under the assumption they'd both live in America and now shes changing the deal and trying to take the kids
There is also international law and both US and UK are signed up. I knew people where the wife decided to go back to her homecountry with the child, blindsiding the dad, thinking that they can stay because they are in their homecountry. The dad filed a lawsuit and she had to move back with the kid to the UK as while the baby was not a UK citizen, their primary address was in London.
I understand she might want her kids but she must not take them away from their father forcibly. She is starting to seem bitter.... and i hope thats not the case, for the girls sakes
He’s the one who started by making her look like a bad mother. Parents (in divorce) do this to get full custody. I’m no way this suit says she’s taking the kids away from him (in the sense that they won’t have contact with him). Just like he’s able to take them to whatever city he’s at, she wants to be able to do the same. How do you know he isn’t taking the girls away from her? This is truly horrible. I hope they can find a resolution for the kids.
She has been abused by the media for weeks and stayed classy (unlike him) and now that she's going through the legal chanels she's BITTER?!!! Also, he's the one holding the kids hostage.
Sophie has to stop with all of this drama and nonsense to all of this she really needs to put all of this to a stop like seriously this really getting no where in life that everything that has to deal with her just stop with all it
Both parents have the rights to these children. It takes two to tangle. They just have to put their children first and work out how they can best co-parent. No one has an upper hand here because both parents do care dearly for their kids. There is no child abuse. So i disagree with the analogy of the mother has always the right to parental responsibility. If he didn’t want the kids people would be bashing him, but he wants to be involved in his kids life. Let them sort out their co parent issues. Washing dity laundry in public just makes things worse. Wish them both all the best.
She is so petty, using the children to fight dirty, gosh I lost all love and respect for her, I actually taught they will have a quiet divorce after their joint statement.
You're right, the most disgusting thing she did was parading the children in front of the paparazzi one day after filling for divorce from her husband who was away on a business trip who had no idea btw. Despicable
Not being funny but I didn't leave my dogs with my ex nevermind my kids. If I was the child I'd want the parent who didn't abandon me not the one accusing my care giver of abduction...that's wild! What a twisted use of language by her side to project her irresponsible behaviour 😔for the sake of the kids I hope they come to an agreement that the child are praying for and hopefully that's amicable joint parenthood between them. Never nice to see any family go this sour
So the guy who broke up the marriage through the press while she was overseas, who convinced her not to take her babies back with her to England because he'd have more free time, then acted called being a parent was"looking after" his children.... simultaneously smearing her in the press, all while she's reeling because they're a married couple who had an arguement. That guy who went scorched earth on her... the one who put the Florida agreement in place, not her. He seems like a good guy. He's a narcissist, controlling POS. And she wasn't even defending herself until now. I hope she gets everything. The kids would be safer in England, they found somewhere to live moved there in April, he brought them back for the tour, paraded them in front of the paparazzi, hid their passports and now he's a wonderful dad? WTELF
She gave up her career for over 4 years to be with her family. He was partying in a club few weeks ago and accused her of being "too much into parties" while he stayed home with the kids (clearly BS) Now he's refusing to hand over their passports which is illegal. The fact that he blindsided her with the divorce says alot
How do people who were once so in love start doing this to each other? This is actually so sad now.
I feel sorry for the girls, they are the only innocents in this mess
This guy is fishy
Just doesnt make any sense to abruptly end something
Also isnt it relocation if they are in newyork and not florida and also they are dual citizens .she can take them whenever she wants .he just was showing moves and i guess she had enough of it.under the english law seeing how he was a parent in marriage sophie is going to win in no time .
they are not divorcing under English law because they were not married under English law. She cannot PERMANENTLY relocate the kids because that is parental alienation. using words like "abduction" is malicious. This is not the UK. She will lose because she is being disingenuous.
The children have dual citizenship
Now he speaks after the PR bashing against Sophie. Now that he is been sued he finally has something to say. He is a controlling man if he wants to leave her then let her move on and share the custody if she wants to move to England it is her right
He has never been known for his stability
Nick and Kevin are much more mature than Joe.
She deserves it. He’s not saying anything he can’t back up. Sounds like she was physically trying to get the kids to the UK before the divorce. Shady chic.
@ericeandco seems like he was living with them and he left with the kids for the tour. He could have left them with her if he didn't want to be the only one taking care of them, he is the shady one and the way he did things show us that he is a coward.
I agree with him. I wouldn’t let anyone take my kids out of the country until there is a legal parenting plan in place
I think at this point both are playing dirty but i'm still team Sophie because Joe is the one that started the bashing.
If he's not giving back their passports, that's quite literally illegal by international law. She's not playing dirty but he is and she's going through the correct channels to fix it.
Did he file the Florida court order? I didn’t understand this part.
They own a home in Florida 🤷
@@EvelynTaylor-i5cthey sold that home so they don’t.
Exactly! He fired the first shot by airing their dirty laundry to the public. That's just not OK. Therefore, I don't trust anything coming from him or his camp. Give me solid evidence or it didn't happen.
They have equal rights to be with their kids so I really hope they come to an agreement that’s in the best interest of the kids and not in order to spite each other. This separation hurts the kids more than it hurts them.
Joe Jonas just keeps digging that hole for himself
OK she knew about the court order in Florida. He’s not gonna violate that the court order in Florida will be over the lawsuit.because it was already filed well before
She knew about it.
"it" was filed by him. He filed in Florida because he knew that the children would be stuck there because of it. Don't act as if this wasn't a calculated move by him.
Gosh all this is so messy. Hope Sophie, and the kids are able to come out of this well rounded ,and strong.
Same for Joe too ❤️
Guys now joe jonas is referred to an estranged husband💀😂
This guy is weird
Someone definitely cheated only a matter of time till we find out, it about to get ugly unfortunate for the children
Getting a divorce from any Jonas brothers would be messy since they think they have all the money and power
seriously why Getting a divorce from any Jonas brothers would be messy since they think they have all the money and power ?
@@madhiravagmi2077divorce from christofascist scum is always messy
seriously watz christofascist ?@@jaynemo674
She also has money and power, and they’re both white (if you also wanna add that). I don’t see the point you’re trying to make. This is a horrible situation. But people in the internet are crazy and are making up conspiracies and are extrapolating things that don’t even make sense 🤦🏻♀️
@@madhiravagmi2077 because they have expensive lawyers and money that's why it's always hard to get any custody or anything when they have more money and lawyers
Praying Sophie gets reunited with her children where they should be
She has the means to see her kids whenever she wants. If she doesn’t it’s her own fault.
Funny how the divorce hit the news then we see a photos of him out with his daughters.. when have we ever seen photos of them... the timing is just
She’s doing the same thing. People like these generally have nannies caring for the children. The judge will sort it out.
We will soon find out that he’s most likely sleeping with the nanny!
He has rights. Work it out amicably.
And so does she. The children are British, as is their mother, and there was a prior agreement that they would live in the UK. Evidence thus far suggests he's the one doing his best to prevent amicability.
He's the one who went down the dirty road. I hope she takes him out during the divorce
Give the babies back to Sophie Joe
Kids are with Sophie, she just isn't allowed to take them out of the country untill the Florida court settles it. You might hate Joe but fathers have rights to be with their children too, they are not Sophie's property.
@@harshitabhuyan8892 im not aware of the full story, what the court of florida has to do and why?
I think they loved there
/lived*
@@harshitabhuyan8892sure, fathers have rights too. And if she was illegally attempting to take them to the UK in order to keep them away from him, this exact same law would protect his rights. Because it's quite literally this exact situation that lead to the create of this agreement and he's in violation.
The one who makes the divorce difficult is the one usually the reason the divorce is happening and in the wrong.
Supposedly there’s a ring cam video of Sophie cheating. Smart money would have been to hire a private investigator before filing.
If she said he took the kids away from her then she’s right
They were born and live in the US. She wants to leave the US and take the kids. He’s smart to fight that.
Lets keep in mind there is 2 sides to every story. At this point, its what is best for the children.
Celebs break up like the rest of us.
This is entertaining
Note: never be with a shorter guy
Hahaha that’s true rosy1490. Short men all have that Napoleon complex.
@@ann5765 a woman should rise up on their toes to kiss their man, not bend over😂
I have no idea why start with kids when your so young and the chance of splitting is extremely high.
Sadly because society pushes it.
Righttt!! I feel like messy divorces are definitely for your 30s/40s, not your 20s. Like I'm one year older and I can't even imagine having to deal with a custody battle, two kids, and a shady ex-husband.
The real problem is why marry an American if you hate living there so much and need to be in England? When they got together it was probably under the assumption they'd both live in America and now shes changing the deal and trying to take the kids
Hold support is always an end run around prenups.
Rip joe jonas
seriously ? why ?
Lawsuit gonna hurt him real bad@@madhiravagmi2077
Let’s cancel him plz
Why not Sophie
There is also international law and both US and UK are signed up. I knew people where the wife decided to go back to her homecountry with the child, blindsiding the dad, thinking that they can stay because they are in their homecountry. The dad filed a lawsuit and she had to move back with the kid to the UK as while the baby was not a UK citizen, their primary address was in London.
This is gonna get U G L Y ‼️‼️‼️‼️
I would say okay . keep them. see how he likes being a single father.
Joe bots are working overtime in this CS
She should've had her kids in England, not in America.
I understand she might want her kids but she must not take them away from their father forcibly. She is starting to seem bitter.... and i hope thats not the case, for the girls sakes
She is starting to seem bitter cause joe is a fuckr
He’s the one who started by making her look like a bad mother. Parents (in divorce) do this to get full custody. I’m no way this suit says she’s taking the kids away from him (in the sense that they won’t have contact with him). Just like he’s able to take them to whatever city he’s at, she wants to be able to do the same. How do you know he isn’t taking the girls away from her?
This is truly horrible. I hope they can find a resolution for the kids.
She has been abused by the media for weeks and stayed classy (unlike him) and now that she's going through the legal chanels she's BITTER?!!! Also, he's the one holding the kids hostage.
@@merykhan97 how is he holding the kids hostage when the children are currently with their mother in New York?
@@merykhan97 how has he not been classy? lol he hasn’t said anything publicly bad abt her
Sophie has to stop with all of this drama and nonsense to all of this she really needs to put all of this to a stop like seriously this really getting no where in life that everything that has to deal with her just stop with all it
Why do I get the feeling she felt unfulfilled during the relationship?
Dave Clark she answered a question about what was the size of Joes appendage. She answered “ average “ lol.
Both parents have the rights to these children. It takes two to tangle. They just have to put their children first and work out how they can best co-parent. No one has an upper hand here because both parents do care dearly for their kids. There is no child abuse. So i disagree with the analogy of the mother has always the right to parental responsibility. If he didn’t want the kids people would be bashing him, but he wants to be involved in his kids life. Let them sort out their co parent issues. Washing dity laundry in public just makes things worse. Wish them both all the best.
Joe is just a sperm donor. Sophie actually carried the baby for 9 months. Joe says he “ feels like a kid raising kids”. That figures.
Misleading is just a nice word for lie. He needs to expose her lies to win.
Anytime to adults agree to dissolve their union, and,, children are involved; the children get the short end of the stick and suffer...🤦♀️🤔
team joe ✊✊
She is so petty, using the children to fight dirty, gosh I lost all love and respect for her, I actually taught they will have a quiet divorce after their joint statement.
You must be a Joe obsessed she is going to fight for her kids
Joe was the one that started it hun...
Another Joe bot.
wat do u mean using the children to fight dirty, ?
You're right, the most disgusting thing she did was parading the children in front of the paparazzi one day after filling for divorce from her husband who was away on a business trip who had no idea btw. Despicable
Not being funny but I didn't leave my dogs with my ex nevermind my kids. If I was the child I'd want the parent who didn't abandon me not the one accusing my care giver of abduction...that's wild! What a twisted use of language by her side to project her irresponsible behaviour 😔for the sake of the kids I hope they come to an agreement that the child are praying for and hopefully that's amicable joint parenthood between them. Never nice to see any family go this sour
So the guy who broke up the marriage through the press while she was overseas, who convinced her not to take her babies back with her to England because he'd have more free time, then acted called being a parent was"looking after" his children.... simultaneously smearing her in the press, all while she's reeling because they're a married couple who had an arguement. That guy who went scorched earth on her... the one who put the Florida agreement in place, not her.
He seems like a good guy.
He's a narcissist, controlling POS. And she wasn't even defending herself until now.
I hope she gets everything. The kids would be safer in England, they found somewhere to live moved there in April, he brought them back for the tour, paraded them in front of the paparazzi, hid their passports and now he's a wonderful dad?
WTELF
She gave up her career for over 4 years to be with her family. He was partying in a club few weeks ago and accused her of being "too much into parties" while he stayed home with the kids (clearly BS)
Now he's refusing to hand over their passports which is illegal.
The fact that he blindsided her with the divorce says alot
So because she left the kids with the other parent while she was at work she is to blame ?
Joe is a narcissist player
Trans stuff i just don't get it
I knew Sophie was nothing but a liar
in wat way Sophie was nothing but a liar?
Joe. Do. You. Love 💕 you Debbie
😂😂😂😂
Sphie looks soo insecure and manipulative
Why do I smell Swift in this move all of the sudden, if she ever had doubts I wouldn’t be surprised she received🤔😉😜 someone’s advice and support.
Sorry to say, first thing I thought of.