Yeah you should watch the 2011 finals. 18+7+7 and 4TO in 44 mins does not get you best player in the league. And 4 straight 4th quarters with 2 points or less😳 Yall think Giannis choked... watch that series
Remember when Lebron fans tell you Lebron was the best player from 2007 until now?! That $hit is false! He wasn’t considered the best player in the NBA until like the second year in the Heat in 2012-13! He wasn’t the best before that!
This was after the NBA Finals of 2011. It was at the time when everyone was pissed off lebron because he failed in the finals and he didn't show any aggressiveness or any heart. Now Stephens list probably would be 1 LeBron 2 Durant 3 Wade . I don't know who would be 4 and 5.
they talk about rings and championships as if its a single player winning it, if you have a complete TEAM around you, that's what will get championships
I'm talking bout as far as carrying your team. He was MVP for a reason. I'm rating from the standpoint that Skip and SAS were in which was the 2012-2011 season where they weren't injured. 2012 is a different list. Rose led his team in scoring and assisting, as well as great leadership and clutch performances as well
Kobe in his prime was the best player but he's not top 5 anymore. Just because he shoots a lot doesn't make him the best in the league. You could argue top 10 but he's not on the level of Durant/Lebron.
Before I say Rose is top 5 he has to not get injured in the playoffs. He can ball but I wanna see how he can make more noise in the playoffs without getting injured.
Yeah, he may be. But so is Crawford. And Wade started so high in his career that no matter how much he falls off, he'll still be a top 10-15 player in the game, and Crawford (who has some of the best handles in the league) will never reach that mark.
Even with LeBron having just gone through that big finals meltdown, leaving him out of the top 5 at this point in time was some unbelievably inexcusable shit.
Na cuz he was seen as a choker since he lost to the Dwight Howard Magic in 09 and then the even older celtics in 10 then was out played by the mavs 6th man in the finals in 2011. Ain't no way anyone had him in the top 5 after that.
@@themaverick1898 well, he was still top 5 so idk what to tell those people lol, and they’re crazy if they’re actually using 2009 as part of that argument. I uunderstand that in game 6 specifically his individual performance wasn’t all that, but they act like the dude wasn’t by far the best player in that series when he was.
@jimtaylor6447 he wasn't. Kobe, Wade, Duncan and KG were definitely ranked above him since they had rings. Howard had just beat him and won DPOY again so he was 5th.
Ahdithan Uthayakumar AT THE TIME DIRK WAS BETTER THAN LEBRON. NOT TALENT WISE BUT AS A PLAYER AND AS A CLOSE. LEBRON WAS PLAYING WITH 2 OTHER ALL STARS AND ANOTHER TOP 5 player AND COULDNT WIN. UNACCEPTABLE
1. Chris Paul 2. Lebron James 3. Dwayne Wade 4. Dwight Howard 5. Deron Williams Kobe is my favorite player of all time but he is not carrying his team like he used to that is why i don't have him up there. Kevin Durant, Dirk Nowitzki, Carmelo Anthony do not play well enough defensively to be ranked ahead of great to-way players. I believe that when you do a list of the top players you can't ignore any aspect of the game. You must be well-rounded and versatile on both sides of the ball.
Bron at #1... 1. can play every position but center at an elite level 2. 4th all time in MVP's won(more than kobe, olajuwon, shaq and duncan) 3. 6th all time ppg (higher than kobe and kobe is called a scorer) 4.Only player EVER who could score, defend, pass and rebound at an elite level.
Just because they went to school doesnt mean they dont make BS top 5s to get a rise out of people (like me). It'd be nice if there was a sports channel that wasn't fake.
Right after his 2006 finals performance where he avg like 35ppg and won finals MVP, Dwade was widely considered to be the best player in the league, obviously along with others like Tim Duncan and Kobe who were top players at that time as well
Thats actually one of my points....since Kobe has been in the league almost twice as much as Lebron and has all those accomplishments why is it do Lebron fans still compare him to Kobe??? and yes what i said does make sense....not "since" but since because i stated facts.
Last year Rose held opposing point guards to fewer points per possession than Rondo, Westbrook, and CP3. His defense is incredibly underrated. HAHAHAH looks like you need to look up your stats. I saw CP3 get lit up and SHUT DOWN by Tony Parker. I saw Westbrook disappear in game 5 of the finals and i saw Durant pleading for the ball shooting over 50% in game 4 and Westbrook refusing to feed the scoring champ. Durant showed up, Westbrook just couldnt see him.
So in the 2001 championship playoff run where Kobe average 29.4 PPG, 7.3 RPG, and 6.1 APG, it doesn't count because he didn't win finals MVP? People really don't know shit about NBA. Just a bunch of superstar groupies
Kobe has lost in more finals than Lebron has been to?? nope...kobe has lost as much finals as lebron has....matter of fact Lebron has only won 2 out of 10 final games and got swept by the Spurs in 07
"He ain't Deron Williams" That shit's hilarious looking back😂
who is here in 2019? im 13 so i cant imagine a time where Lebron isn’t number 1😂😂
Im here in 2020 ... however bro This is BLASPHEMY !! Lebron was disrespected on this debate !
Yeah you should watch the 2011 finals. 18+7+7 and 4TO in 44 mins does not get you best player in the league. And 4 straight 4th quarters with 2 points or less😳 Yall think Giannis choked... watch that series
Nick 34 💯Yup Im a dallas fan , I remember dirk shooting 6-20 also ... That was a tough series! They force bron to pass instead of attacking the basket
Neither one of them having him in the top 5 is just silly though.
@@YE-mp4zg nah at that time he got knocked out of the top 5 for that disappearing act.
You people forget that Lebron had just choked through the NBA Finals, everybody was questioning him
Skip really been calling him westbrick since 2011 😭😭😭💀 crazy
Remember when Lebron fans tell you Lebron was the best player from 2007 until now?! That $hit is false! He wasn’t considered the best player in the NBA until like the second year in the Heat in 2012-13! He wasn’t the best before that!
He’s better than the guys on these list tho, and was at the time
this was just a reaction to his finals performance that year. He was considered top two before then
The fact that neither of them had lebron in the top 5 is unbelievable
@@Gallant972310 but they have Kobe aged of dirk when dirk just swept Kobe?
lechoke was awful in this final, people were tired of his choking ass at the time
@@izuokoko1896Kobe was injured in that series
nah, 8 points in an elimination game is god awful, absolutely not top 5
"i said athletically, are you paying attention...." made me laugh so hard
lol at carmello "clutch gene"
This was after the NBA Finals of 2011. It was at the time when everyone was pissed off lebron because he failed in the finals and he didn't show any aggressiveness or any heart. Now Stephens list probably would be 1 LeBron 2 Durant 3 Wade . I don't know who would be 4 and 5.
WADE is gonna be the NBA MVP 2011-2012
Hello. Im from the future and Wade was not the MVP for the 2011-2012 season
Lebron won it
they talk about rings and championships as if its a single player winning it, if you have a complete TEAM around you, that's what will get championships
People hate writng essays in schools, but not on youtube. Kobe Bryant #1
They really had LeBron out of the top 5? Lmao 🤣🤣
he aint top 5 now
Definitely is
I'm talking bout as far as carrying your team. He was MVP for a reason. I'm rating from the standpoint that Skip and SAS were in which was the 2012-2011 season where they weren't injured. 2012 is a different list. Rose led his team in scoring and assisting, as well as great leadership and clutch performances as well
Well technically, you did put Kobe and M.J in the same sentence.
how is wade the most over rated player
he's the 3rd greatest shooting guard of all time and greatest blocking guard and defense splitting
1.KOBE
2.WADE
3.ALLEN
4.RONDO
5.DURANT
Kobe in his prime was the best player but he's not top 5 anymore. Just because he shoots a lot doesn't make him the best in the league. You could argue top 10 but he's not on the level of Durant/Lebron.
i love watching these two debating
Before I say Rose is top 5 he has to not get injured in the playoffs. He can ball but I wanna see how he can make more noise in the playoffs without getting injured.
kobe couldnt dunk in 2011 but look at him now, he's dunkin all the time in 2012
1: Wade
2: Durant
3: Bryant
4: Nowitzki
5: Rose
Where lebron at B?
No😂
1. lebron 2. durant 3.wade 4.bryant
my top 5
1.Derick Rose
2.Kobe Bryant
well realy thats it
1.Lebron
2.KD
3.Kobe
4.TP9
5.D Rose IDK?
steven a funny. "STOP ITTTT" "woah woah take notes youre in no position to argue" lol
Yeah, he may be. But so is Crawford. And Wade started so high in his career that no matter how much he falls off, he'll still be a top 10-15 player in the game, and Crawford (who has some of the best handles in the league) will never reach that mark.
I know Skip is clueless but Steven A.? Come on, how is Lebron not on the list?
its because espn judged him harshly after the finals last year...
Lebron, Kevin Durant, Kobe, Wade, Dirk Nowistki.....Dream Team 2
Even with LeBron having just gone through that big finals meltdown, leaving him out of the top 5 at this point in time was some unbelievably inexcusable shit.
Cap😊
@@tellitlikeitisfresh6541 lol
Na cuz he was seen as a choker since he lost to the Dwight Howard Magic in 09 and then the even older celtics in 10 then was out played by the mavs 6th man in the finals in 2011. Ain't no way anyone had him in the top 5 after that.
@@themaverick1898 well, he was still top 5 so idk what to tell those people lol, and they’re crazy if they’re actually using 2009 as part of that argument. I uunderstand that in game 6 specifically his individual performance wasn’t all that, but they act like the dude wasn’t by far the best player in that series when he was.
@jimtaylor6447 he wasn't. Kobe, Wade, Duncan and KG were definitely ranked above him since they had rings. Howard had just beat him and won DPOY again so he was 5th.
1. Dwayne Wade
2. Kevin Durant
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Rajon Rondo
5. Lebron James
Skip was right about Russ all along
lebron, kobe, kevin durant, wade, and melo nuff said
Ahdithan Uthayakumar AT THE TIME DIRK WAS BETTER THAN LEBRON. NOT TALENT WISE BUT AS A PLAYER AND AS A CLOSE. LEBRON WAS PLAYING WITH 2 OTHER ALL STARS AND ANOTHER TOP 5 player AND COULDNT WIN. UNACCEPTABLE
I'd say
1.Wade
2.Durant
3.Kobe
4.Lebron
5.Dwight
pretty much dream team. but that shouldn't be surprising
1. Durant
2. Kobe
3. LBJ
4. Wade
5. Melo
6. Chris Paul
7. Dwight Howard
8. Rondo
9. Westbrook
10. KEvin Love
this was over a year ago, after the Heat lost to the Mavs in the Finals
Top 5 Players Today
1. LeBron James
2. Dwight Howard
3. Kevin Durant
4. Chris Paul
5. Dwyane Wade
Skip on Kobe: "You mean the guy who can no longer dunk?"
Oh you silly boy...
1. Justin Bieber
2. Barack Obama
3. Jeremy Lin
4. Uncle Drew
5. Curly from Harlem Globetrotters
2012 the year of Linsanity and Justin Bieber. Fun times 🤣. Wait... How you knew about uncle Drew back then ?
Because obviously, "heart" and "passion" matter more than skill and stats in the NBA.
PG-Magic
SG-Kobe
SF-LeBron
PF-Duncan
C- Shaq
All on primes bring on your team boy!
No point refuting what you say when I have a simple, unbias fact. Kobe : 5 Lebron: 1. Is as simple as rocks and sand
1.Rajon Rondo
2.Kobe
3.LeBron James
4.D.Rose
5.Kevin Durant/ Carmelo
6. Carmelo
7.Paul Pierce
8.Dwight Howard
9.Dwayne Wade
10.Dirk
1. Chris Paul
2. Lebron James
3. Dwayne Wade
4. Dwight Howard
5. Deron Williams
Kobe is my favorite player of all time but he is not carrying his team like he used to that is why i don't have him up there. Kevin Durant, Dirk Nowitzki, Carmelo Anthony do not play well enough defensively to be ranked ahead of great to-way players. I believe that when you do a list of the top players you can't ignore any aspect of the game. You must be well-rounded and versatile on both sides of the ball.
4:11 Haha
Dwayne Wade over Kobe!!! have they gone mad?
stephen as top 5 could be a starting line up
d wade use to play the point at some point if i remember correctly
1.LeBron
2.Durant
3.Wade
4.Kobe
5.Carmelo
Bron at #1...
1. can play every position but center at an elite level
2. 4th all time in MVP's won(more than kobe, olajuwon, shaq and duncan)
3. 6th all time ppg (higher than kobe and kobe is called a scorer)
4.Only player EVER who could score, defend, pass and rebound at an elite level.
1.james
2.wade
3.kevin durant
4.kobe bryant
5.cp3
Imagine thinking 2011 Wade better than 2011 Kobe lmao
1. LeBron
2. Kobe
3. D Wade
4. Durant
5. D Rose
Hah! Who would you rather want?
Career Averages:
Wade - 25 PPG, 6 APG, 5 RPG, 2 STL, 49 FG%, 26 PER, 2 Championships
Crawford - 15 PPG, 4 APG, 3 RPG, 1 STL, 41 FG%, 17 PER, 0 Championships
If that doesn't completely dismantle your argument, I don't know does.
I thought this was spot on, except the whole Dirk thing. That's just funny.
LeBron
CP3
Durant
D12
kobe
Who tf is D12
@@izuokoko1896 Dwight Howard
Westbrook is a beast. Next 3 years he will be the BEST PG IN THE GAME!! right now, he is still learning his PG role, but he is learning.
We’ll we saw what happened
1.bryant
2.wade
3.durant
4.james
5.paul
1.wade
2.leBron
3.SHAQ
4.Durant
5.Melo
d-wade number 1 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣😂😂🤣😂😀😂🤣😂
so much for Wade not folding in games anymore. look at him during the Pacers series.
1.Lebron
2.KD
3.D-Wade
4.CP3
5.Kobe
Lebron not in the top 5 for skip? This is so much BS.
Was the first & last time they ever put DWade at #1 😢😢
He was arguably the best in the league after the 2006 finals. It was very brief but it did happen
yes because you went straight to the NBA from high school and are one of the top players in the league
The top 5 NBA Players are:
1- LeBron James
2- Kevin Durant
3- Kobe Bryant
4- Carmelo Anthony
5- Dwayne Wade
Im ranking on how they perform and over the years
1. lebron
2. kobe
3. wade
4.durant
5. carmelo
Most pre-mature rankings of all time
Just because they went to school doesnt mean they dont make BS top 5s to get a rise out of people (like me). It'd be nice if there was a sports channel that wasn't fake.
Best in the whole world and still are:
1. Kwame Brown
2. Brian Scalabrine
3. Luke Walton
4. DJ Mbenga
5. Joe Smith
1. LeBron
2. Kobe/Wade
3. KD
4. Kobe/Wade
5. Dwight
my opinion
1-Kobe Bryant
2- Lebron James
3- Kevin Durant
4-Dwayne Wade
5- Dwight Howard
Only correct answer
Right now:
1. LeBron James
2. Kevin Durant
3. Chris Paul
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Kevin Love
Close sixth is Wade.
Stephen A Smith forgot about the big frickin O I Milwaukee with Kareem
When was Dwayne Wade EVER the best player in the league lol
Right after his 2006 finals performance where he avg like 35ppg and won finals MVP, Dwade was widely considered to be the best player in the league, obviously along with others like Tim Duncan and Kobe who were top players at that time as well
You don't know basketball.
@@zackarmstrong.3089 Kobe was still better
In 2011 D Wade was the best player. Period
Emre Ç. best player from 09-11
wade is the best
they are so similar in their style of play its kinda hard not to!
the reasons carmelo is on the list is because hes not gonna ball hog whens kobes on the team to smart for that
dont forget that kobe has been in the league twice as long as lebron has, so this statement doesnt make much since.
Thats actually one of my points....since Kobe has been in the league almost twice as much as Lebron and has all those accomplishments why is it do Lebron fans still compare him to Kobe??? and yes what i said does make sense....not "since" but since because i stated facts.
That is my list I know Rondo is not better than LeBron and Kobe but i like Rondo cuz he is a true point guard !!
This list was made after LBJ's finals performance against the MAVS. They were made LBJ screwed up their predictions of HEAT in 6
lmao i love that all the players on that list except wade hasnt won a single championship
Last year Rose held opposing point guards to fewer points per possession than Rondo, Westbrook, and CP3. His defense is incredibly underrated. HAHAHAH looks like you need to look up your stats. I saw CP3 get lit up and SHUT DOWN by Tony Parker. I saw Westbrook disappear in game 5 of the finals and i saw Durant pleading for the ball shooting over 50% in game 4 and Westbrook refusing to feed the scoring champ. Durant showed up, Westbrook just couldnt see him.
I don't think that. I thought I made that obvious enough with the quotation marks
Kobe is definitely top 5.
1. Lebron
2. KD
3. Kobe
4. CP3
5. Rondo
ht10futuebol
1. LeBron James only has 3 MVP's.
2. LeBron isn't the only person who
could score, defend, pass, and rebound.
1. jordan 2. kobe 3. magic 4.lebron 5. shaq
Imagine not having the best player in the league not on the list lmfao.
The only reasonable part of this was stephen a's defense of westbrook
Lebron is better than Kobe right now, but now I would love to see young Kobe vs
Did ya watch the playoffs lmao? Rondo killed it.
@zmoneytmnt 1. Dwyane Wade 2. LeBRon James 3. Kevin Durant 4. Kobe Bryant 5. Rajon Rondo
1. Will always be Kobe 2. Lebron 3. Kevin Durant 4. Carmelo 5. Future Austin rivers ;)
1. LeBron
2. D. Rose
3. Durant
4. Kobe
5. CP3
1. lebron
2. kobe
3. durant
4 dwight
5 dwade
So in the 2001 championship playoff run where Kobe average 29.4 PPG, 7.3 RPG, and 6.1 APG, it doesn't count because he didn't win finals MVP? People really don't know shit about NBA. Just a bunch of superstar groupies
Kobe has lost in more finals than Lebron has been to?? nope...kobe has lost as much finals as lebron has....matter of fact Lebron has only won 2 out of 10 final games and got swept by the Spurs in 07
1-lbj
2-KD
3-Kobe
4-dywane wade
5-Rondo
D rose is so much better than rondo it’s a fact he’s better than d wade and Kobe Bryant back than