After driving a hybrid SX recently I agree we no longer need the V6. It's such a smooth, nippy combination that Toyota has just nailed again and again and again and it’s a perfect fit for a Camry of any grade.
I drive a 2008 Camry Grande and it's actually quite a nice car, comfortable on long drives however it can also be fun when driven hard on twisty mountain roads.
Picked up an ascent sport 2.5H a month ago after an 8month wait. great car. -Rubbish parking sensors (2 front and 2 rear only) -Garbage audio system Everything else about it is fabulous, shocked that I'm actually getting better than advertised fuel economy without trying!
Just ordered an SX in Liquid Mercury! $43,500 with protectors and dash mat. A lot of car for the money! Coming out of a V6 Camry and I'll miss the grunt for sure! Looking forward to 800-900 km to a 50 litre tank of fuel rather than 600km to a 60 litre tank! Huge $ saving over the life of the car! Excellent review, thanks!
I'm really enjoying driving my 2022 Camry hybrid SL. Lots of space for the little one, big boot and fantastic fuel economy. It'll even beat dual cab utes in a traffic light merger which is a bonus!
I bought the SX V6 a few years ago and it's an absolute gem to drive...but in the current climate, the Hybrid makes most sense. Also had plenty of complements from friends too
I currently have an 07 Camry, I love it, biggest gripe is the boot weird opening, meaning I cant carry tall things in the boot, wish Toyota made a camry lift back or estate
I own one - one of the better decisions I have mad - it loves being pushed around - handles so well and still so comfortable (that's the mark of a quality car). Test drove numerous similar cars, but this was the best all rounder - and wow! the economy! average 4.8 to 5.0 l/100 klms, but on one long run I actually got 4.2 l/100 klms
I've got the last of the V6 Camry, marvellous power and get up and go! Frankly, the fuel use isn't so bad, on open road 5.5-6.5 litres/100 easily achieved. In suburbs 11-13 litres per 100.. Once you drive V6 you'll choose that over the 2.5 Hybrid everyday ending in "Y"!
I do miss hearing about the V6 option with the Camry, but would choose the hybrid as I’m a budget conscious person and the hybrid has decent amount of power. I don’t own a Camry, but had an 2017 hybrid Camry as a rental car and beautiful car to drive and has oomph.
I have a 2018 Toyota Camry SE. Bought it used back in February of this year with 61000 miles. It's has been my favorite car of all time. I love the look the feel of it and the interior is the best. The only grip I have is wish the SE would come with the LED tail lights mainly because you can see them better than the little small 1 lights bulb. Other besides that the car perfect
Just a small critique for your videos, you describe storage spaces, for example in this video at 2:15 you mention the area with the 12v socket and rubberised tray. But you don't actually show it on camera. It would be good to see these areas so we can see the size/placement and general layout.
I prefer the dash of the 2018-2020 model with the integrated dash panel screen. The only reason I didn't upgrade from my 2019 to this model was the awful pop-up screen.
Thanks for another great, independent review John. I remain a bit of a sceptic in regard to CVT transmissions - do you really think Toyota has it nailed in this guise?
Toyota's 'e-CVT' isn't actually a CVT in the traditional sense - there is NO belt whatsoever - it just uses two electric motors called MG1 & MG2 and a bunch of physical gears. Very simple and extremely reliable.
I looked at the SX in Feverish Red today. It looked great, but that paint is high maintenance. Be prepared to have it paint corrected to get it looking scratch free if it’s a used one. And I suspect the clear coat on it is not overly durable. I think I’m favouring Frosted White but will look at a blue one too.
That Camary could be by putting the Rav4 prime drivetrain in it and the gsr corolla suspension and brakes, with the TRD look. A 302hp AWD hybrid sport sedan getting 40+ mpg, keep it under 40k and will sell alot of them
I own a late 2021 Camry sx hybrid with 30000km on the clock, Honestly surprising how well it drives but in my opinion the factory Dunlop sportmaxx tyres are overpriced rubbish. I disagree that overtaking can feel like it runs out of puff, from my experiences putting it into sport mode leans more on the electric assistance for acceleration but even in normal mode you have plenty of grunt. Eco mode is far better in the city as the regen is less than in normal mode but provides more of a coasting effect. Highly recommend once the factory tyres give out, get another brand. Factory tyres are expensive, hard rubber that is horrible in the wet. Swapped for Kumho PS71 and can't complain.
Agreed. The reviewer is wrong that sport mode only changes the steering weighting. I don't even need to use sport mode to overtake most of the time, but it's nice to have that extra punch when that dual cab Ute wants to get in front.
@@JasonISF I wanted something a little more forgiving especially on the 19s and got a good price on the PS71s. I always fill my tyres with nitrogen regardless so my pressures are optimal. I think if I went for a more relaxed rather than focused model such as the SL. I would choose tyres that are more eco friendly. the new michelin pilot sport ev tyres look enticing.
I found the same with the original Bridgestones on my SL Hybrid, absolute rubbish. I went continentals, which were about the same price. Much superior in every aspect.
Ive got my order in for a red Camry waiting since Feb the car is currently off the coast of Brisbane so ill be driving it in a few weeks with red interior cant wait
I bought 21 RAV 4 Hybrid and tested Camry SL. Driving Camry is complete different experience better than RAV 4 Hybrid. Let me know if someone also think so...
Rented a base hybrid from the last gen. I was pleasantly surprised by the weighty steering and the light shove in the back when really pushing it. Infotainment is abysmal. Totally ruins it (and the plastic steering wheel).
Loved your content. I think base model is pick of the camry range, as it comes with full size spare, 17 inch wheels with better ride and it takes 91 ron petrol. Sx or any Camry Hybrid runs on 95 ron so not sure whether u would end up saving on fuel, also it's more expensive to insure hybrid/electric vehicles than traditional vehicles I'd really appreciate your feedback on pick of camry range or do a review for petrol only camry. 😀
The hybrid drives way better than the petrol only, due to the torque from the electric motor and is a much quieter car. 95 fuel is only about 12c more than 91 so you're still saving money. I see as little as 3.9l/100 kms on some drives.
Ordered SX model in March and eta is Nov-Dec 2022, picked this over Sonata and Accord mainly because it's a hybrid and cheaper compared to the hybrid Accord +Toyota reliability😇
I ordered in Nov 2021 and got my Hybrid SL in April 2022 even though dealer said 9-12 month wait. So not bad at all and was definitely worth it, I love driving it.
It's a pity the wagons just aren't popular anymore. People now opt for a crossover or SUV. So for many manufacturers it doesn't make sense to make it, since they don't sell as well. Most people who do want a wagon, buy it in the C-segment anyway. Which is why for the Corolla they still have one.
Do they have to make a choice? I mean, why not a normal version aimed at 'normal' use and configged for mostly comfort and a sports-model that's more stiff? I mean, there was a time that almost all brands did that.
God I hate the front of this car. Toyota are capable of making good looking vehicles but majority of the time they choose not to. I'm sure it's got something to do with sales. Make an average looking car that nobody finds offensive to increase appeal. It's the car version of a family-friendly movie.
@@whatthe6532 Mines in Frosted White, was considering getting the TRD black fascia for the upper grill around the toyota badge but it is growing on me so much now that I don't care about getting it.
I prefer the front of the previous model Bentley Continental V8 S! And the engine sound too! But I'm not wealthy enough to buy one so the Camry will have to do🤣🤣🤣
Your loss, because this car actually has very respectable ride/handling characteristics. If you’re judging it simply because it has a Camry badge on it, that’s rather closed-minded.
Have you driven one? Honestly, this model, with the TNGA-K platform, is so much better to drive than the provious models, Toyota could have changed its name from Camry to something else.
Buy a TRD Aurion or any Aurion Sportivo, that's "sporty" Camry that American didn't have. It can be sporty, just that you have to remove the stigma with the badge. Same with Hyundai, most people shit on it but the recent N models are decently sporty.
After driving a hybrid SX recently I agree we no longer need the V6. It's such a smooth, nippy combination that Toyota has just nailed again and again and again and it’s a perfect fit for a Camry of any grade.
A camry station wagon will be a massive seller imo since not everyone wants an SUV that sits higher and will offer a lot more boot space
Agreed!
I drive a 2008 Camry Grande and it's actually quite a nice car, comfortable on long drives however it can also be fun when driven hard on twisty mountain roads.
Picked up an ascent sport 2.5H a month ago after an 8month wait. great car.
-Rubbish parking sensors (2 front and 2 rear only)
-Garbage audio system
Everything else about it is fabulous, shocked that I'm actually getting better than advertised fuel economy without trying!
The Harmon Kardon sound in my partners 2021 Outback touring is way better sounding than the average JBL "premium" sound in my 2022 Camry hybrid SL.
Just ordered an SX in Liquid Mercury! $43,500 with protectors and dash mat. A lot of car for the money! Coming out of a V6 Camry and I'll miss the grunt for sure! Looking forward to 800-900 km to a 50 litre tank of fuel rather than 600km to a 60 litre tank! Huge $ saving over the life of the car! Excellent review, thanks!
There's plenty of grunt, I've got a 2022 Camry hybrid SL and I use sport mode if I want to accelerate swiftly. It feels like a modern 3l V6.
@@JasonISF Cheers mate!
@@Nico-vt4il congrats and enjoy the hybrid!
Congrats on selecting the car. What wait time have you been told to expect?
@@bbking0064 12-24 months, however there seems to be not as much demand for Camrys as there is for Ravs etc so I'm expecting 9-12 months.
I'm really enjoying driving my 2022 Camry hybrid SL. Lots of space for the little one, big boot and fantastic fuel economy. It'll even beat dual cab utes in a traffic light merger which is a bonus!
I am waiting on my sx too bro
@@lemarkusmywords4441 White with a red interior
I bought the SX V6 a few years ago and it's an absolute gem to drive...but in the current climate, the Hybrid makes most sense. Also had plenty of complements from friends too
The hybrid is torquey enough to beat new dual cab utes in a traffic merger, while using hardly any fuel overall.
a 2CV would beat a dual cab ute
I know your pain, John. I'm tall and also have problems with trousers that are too short.
he's being prepared for when the floods hit, high water pants
I currently have an 07 Camry, I love it, biggest gripe is the boot weird opening, meaning I cant carry tall things in the boot, wish Toyota made a camry lift back or estate
I own one - one of the better decisions I have mad - it loves being pushed around - handles so well and still so comfortable (that's the mark of a quality car). Test drove numerous similar cars, but this was the best all rounder - and wow! the economy! average 4.8 to 5.0 l/100 klms, but on one long run I actually got 4.2 l/100 klms
I've got the last of the V6 Camry, marvellous power and get up and go! Frankly, the fuel use isn't so bad, on open road 5.5-6.5 litres/100 easily achieved. In suburbs 11-13 litres per 100.. Once you drive V6 you'll choose that over the 2.5 Hybrid everyday ending in "Y"!
I do miss hearing about the V6 option with the Camry, but would choose the hybrid as I’m a budget conscious person and the hybrid has decent amount of power. I don’t own a Camry, but had an 2017 hybrid Camry as a rental car and beautiful car to drive and has oomph.
/ausfinance can’t wait for this be 18 years old. Prime purchase time
I have a 2018 Toyota Camry SE. Bought it used back in February of this year with 61000 miles. It's has been my favorite car of all time. I love the look the feel of it and the interior is the best. The only grip I have is wish the SE would come with the LED tail lights mainly because you can see them better than the little small 1 lights bulb. Other besides that the car perfect
Just a small critique for your videos, you describe storage spaces, for example in this video at 2:15 you mention the area with the 12v socket and rubberised tray. But you don't actually show it on camera.
It would be good to see these areas so we can see the size/placement and general layout.
I prefer the dash of the 2018-2020 model with the integrated dash panel screen. The only reason I didn't upgrade from my 2019 to this model was the awful pop-up screen.
Someone give John a bonus so he can pay a tailor to lengthen his trousers!
Thanks for another great, independent review John. I remain a bit of a sceptic in regard to CVT transmissions - do you really think Toyota has it nailed in this guise?
Toyota's 'e-CVT' isn't actually a CVT in the traditional sense - there is NO belt whatsoever - it just uses two electric motors called MG1 & MG2 and a bunch of physical gears. Very simple and extremely reliable.
@@JasonISF Thanks for the info - interesting... 👍
@@JasonISF yeah right! Didn't know that! Cheers mate💪
I looked at the SX in Feverish Red today. It looked great, but that paint is high maintenance. Be prepared to have it paint corrected to get it looking scratch free if it’s a used one. And I suspect the clear coat on it is not overly durable. I think I’m favouring Frosted White but will look at a blue one too.
Heated seats are not a deal breaker.. actually think it’s something not needed in a car as after 5 minutes you are fine
That Camary could be by putting the Rav4 prime drivetrain in it and the gsr corolla suspension and brakes, with the TRD look. A 302hp AWD hybrid sport sedan getting 40+ mpg, keep it under 40k and will sell alot of them
It’s not an suv - gets my vote!
If I subscribe will you get longer pants? JK. Already am.
Handles so much better than the VF
Infotainment still looking like it's 2006
I own a late 2021 Camry sx hybrid with 30000km on the clock, Honestly surprising how well it drives but in my opinion the factory Dunlop sportmaxx tyres are overpriced rubbish. I disagree that overtaking can feel like it runs out of puff, from my experiences putting it into sport mode leans more on the electric assistance for acceleration but even in normal mode you have plenty of grunt. Eco mode is far better in the city as the regen is less than in normal mode but provides more of a coasting effect.
Highly recommend once the factory tyres give out, get another brand. Factory tyres are expensive, hard rubber that is horrible in the wet. Swapped for Kumho PS71 and can't complain.
Agreed. The reviewer is wrong that sport mode only changes the steering weighting. I don't even need to use sport mode to overtake most of the time, but it's nice to have that extra punch when that dual cab Ute wants to get in front.
BTW the Bridgestone turanza on the hybrid SL are excellent tyres.
@@JasonISF I wanted something a little more forgiving especially on the 19s and got a good price on the PS71s. I always fill my tyres with nitrogen regardless so my pressures are optimal.
I think if I went for a more relaxed rather than focused model such as the SL. I would choose tyres that are more eco friendly. the new michelin pilot sport ev tyres look enticing.
I found the same with the original Bridgestones on my SL Hybrid, absolute rubbish. I went continentals, which were about the same price. Much superior in every aspect.
I can get 8.0l/100km in my 2015 non hybrid Camry. Mostly city driving too.
good review on a really good car, but that v6 is a sweet engine
Is the Camry cool enough for a young adult?
Ive got my order in for a red Camry waiting since Feb the car is currently off the coast of Brisbane so ill be driving it in a few weeks with red interior cant wait
Congrats - which model did you go for? I've got a 2022 hybrid SL in frosted white and love it.
@@JasonISF I went SX in red with red interior
@@eyesofprophecy6370 nice one. Red interior looks sporty. Enjoy!
I saw a red/red SX the other day and thought it looked great. Good choice
Any updates on your car? Did you receive it when they said?
I bought 21 RAV 4 Hybrid and tested Camry SL. Driving Camry is complete different experience better than RAV 4 Hybrid. Let me know if someone also think so...
bring back the wagon!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rented a base hybrid from the last gen. I was pleasantly surprised by the weighty steering and the light shove in the back when really pushing it.
Infotainment is abysmal. Totally ruins it (and the plastic steering wheel).
What's the maximum EV only range with the newer Li Ion battery, and what's the maximum speed before the ICE cuts in?
you must have a PhD in literature to find so many complementary words describing a Camry
Journalism is a writing profession, so yes
Loved your content. I think base model is pick of the camry range, as it comes with full size spare, 17 inch wheels with better ride and it takes 91 ron petrol. Sx or any Camry Hybrid runs on 95 ron so not sure whether u would end up saving on fuel, also it's more expensive to insure hybrid/electric vehicles than traditional vehicles I'd really appreciate your feedback on pick of camry range or do a review for petrol only camry. 😀
The hybrid drives way better than the petrol only, due to the torque from the electric motor and is a much quieter car. 95 fuel is only about 12c more than 91 so you're still saving money. I see as little as 3.9l/100 kms on some drives.
@@JasonISF thanks fir ur feedback/comment matey. Really appreciate it, just contemplating between which model to go for. 🙏
@@Mightyhawk84k No worries mate. If you do decide on the hybrid, you won't regret it.
drove one as a rental car and the fuel consumption is insanely low.
I like this car. I wonder if a hybrid powertain model lasts as long as a non hybrid though.
Kind of a hire car, or a D car. Something a grand parent hands down to a grandchild.
How so?
BYD Seal, bring it here!
Ordered SX model in March and eta is Nov-Dec 2022, picked this over Sonata and Accord mainly because it's a hybrid and cheaper compared to the hybrid Accord +Toyota reliability😇
Might be a little longer buddy. I ordered my Camry in October 2021 and still waiting
@@lemarkusmywords4441 silver
Have you received your car yet? Any updates
@@rnm6943 not yet bro, no updates from Toyota either, approaching 15 months wait
Oh no.... Sorry to hear that. 15 months?! My god 🥺 I'm currently on 7 months and it's killing me 😅
Perfect timing 😂 I'm in need of a new car!
As long as your prepared to wait 12 months
Comming to a Taxi rank soon!
The question is how long do you have to wait if you want to get your hands on one!!! And is it really worth the wait...
I’m sure it’s a solid car but waiting 12mths for my taxi to show up?
- Uber!
I ordered in Nov 2021 and got my Hybrid SL in April 2022 even though dealer said 9-12 month wait. So not bad at all and was definitely worth it, I love driving it.
I ordered a SX 2 weeks ago and was quoted 3 - 6 month wait.
@@alecnewton5858 where are you located? I was told 6 months in June 2022 and now dealer has no idea. Brisbane QLD here
@@rnm6943 Central Coast of NSW. I'm not expecting it to arrive within the 6 month lead time. Supplychain issues are still a bitch..
i love Toyota but the lack of wagon in this class is unacceptable and no I don't like SUV
It's a pity the wagons just aren't popular anymore. People now opt for a crossover or SUV. So for many manufacturers it doesn't make sense to make it, since they don't sell as well. Most people who do want a wagon, buy it in the C-segment anyway. Which is why for the Corolla they still have one.
@@djoetma Wagons are still very popular, there just isn't enough % of people in the want category for a wagon for Car manufacturers to care
I'll wait for the GR TWIN TURBO V6
A face only a mother could love!
the question is rather: should it be sporty?
Agreed. I think they should make it a budget version of the ES
Do they have to make a choice? I mean, why not a normal version aimed at 'normal' use and configged for mostly comfort and a sports-model that's more stiff? I mean, there was a time that almost all brands did that.
@@djoetma in US UA-cam channel Thestraightpipes review it Toyota Camry TRD with a V6.
@@djoetma Hardly stiff, it's more of a softer spring rate and firmer dampers.
Toyota needs to bring in the Station wagon Camry. Far more versatile and practical than a sedan.
It won't be as economical as a sedan due to the aerodynamics.
I prefer the V8 Camry
I prefer the V10 or v12 Camry🤔
The front looks hideous 🥺 Can't Toyota do better?
GR Camry❤ one day
Wagon, where’s the wagon?
Even if they did reintroduce the Camry wagon, it probably wouldn't come to Australia anyway since we don't get the Corolla Touring.
Why does it need to be sporty, though?
Car of choice for uber / taxi
Needs to be a white Ascent hybrid though, then it’s taxi/Uber spec
I'll take the Hyundai i30 n-line premium sedan anyday over this
When it comes to reliability, no one beats Toyota.
@@robertduclayan2298 their hybrids are not as reliable
I30 not as roomy n reliable as camry
@@Mightyhawk84k Correct n-line is more plastic
@@mharro88 their new gen hybrids are (improved it in the 2021 onwards models).
“Can sedans be cool” charger 😭😭😭
Wish we got that car here
The back seat actually looks really cramped.
The presenter is fairly tall with 1,88 m and still has quite some room. I's say it's actually quite good.
No. It's a camry.
God I hate the front of this car. Toyota are capable of making good looking vehicles but majority of the time they choose not to. I'm sure it's got something to do with sales. Make an average looking car that nobody finds offensive to increase appeal. It's the car version of a family-friendly movie.
looks better in person but in my opinion it's all colour dependent too. different colours allow more impressions of the lines.
I like it. Best of the Toyota front ends
@@whatthe6532 Mines in Frosted White, was considering getting the TRD black fascia for the upper grill around the toyota badge but it is growing on me so much now that I don't care about getting it.
I prefer the front of the previous model Bentley Continental V8 S! And the engine sound too! But I'm not wealthy enough to buy one so the Camry will have to do🤣🤣🤣
Its a nice enough looking car - but its called a 'Camry'......
The name "Camry" derives from the Japanese word kanmuri (ja:冠, かんむり), meaning "crown"
Firm suspension tune? No thanks.
cvt no thanks
The Koreans have caught up. Toyotas just seem a generation behind.
Mousetrap on wheels. "Poor" rating on the Crash Test of the American Institute IIHS this week
I've lost the trust to these reviews once they start telling me about "sporty" Camry.
Your loss, because this car actually has very respectable ride/handling characteristics. If you’re judging it simply because it has a Camry badge on it, that’s rather closed-minded.
Have you driven one? Honestly, this model, with the TNGA-K platform, is so much better to drive than the provious models, Toyota could have changed its name from Camry to something else.
Buy a TRD Aurion or any Aurion Sportivo, that's "sporty" Camry that American didn't have. It can be sporty, just that you have to remove the stigma with the badge. Same with Hyundai, most people shit on it but the recent N models are decently sporty.