I forgot how just odd this one was: North Stars draft Guy Lafleur from the Nordiques then trade him back. Weird since Minnesota was drafting players in the 1991 draft when San Jose entered the league; they didn't want anyone from Quebec so drafted a retired player; traded him back because Lafleur couldn't work the front office position the Nordiques had offered; received a player already confirmed as leaving the league to play in Europe.
Not just in Canucks history but in the whole damn league. Benning is close to Milbury levels of outright incompetence. I rarely wish failure on someone but I hope to never hear him get another job at the NHL level. No fanbase deserves to suffer his idiocy the way we did.
@@stevencooke6451 he definitely did get fired. Thankfully even though some fans have issues with him, Patrick Alvin seems to be doing a much better job. Even though he still has to deal with the awful team owners.
from watching them play when we had tofoli. i think during that time. one of their poster child was boeser for the nucks, and brock didnt like tyler cause he bumped him down to the 2nd line.
You're forgetting the STRANGEST trade EVER in NHL History. Ton 'Bussey' Martin was traded for a bus. That';s right. a player was traded for a vehicle. Off google itself: Tom Martin holds one distinction that no one in the NHL, and maybe the entire sports world, could claim about his playing days. Martin, who was a fourth-round draft pick by the Winnipeg Jets in 1982, was traded for a bus -- a used bus.
7:59 I've been saying it for awhile. The Canucks and Pettersson should publicly "struggle to come to terms on a deal", Pettersson should "demand a trade", and then the Canucks should trade the defenseman Elias Pettersson they have in their system for the center's price.
Also a funny fact that you didn't mention about the Toffoli trade is the fact the next season with the lost of Toffoli the Canucks misses the playoffs due to lack of depth scoring, but the teams who signs him (habs) ended up in the finals and he was a big part of it. I was sad when he got traded in 2022, but we ended up with Mesar, Heinneman and Volokhin, which is pretty good asset management, compared to the Bennings era xD
I feel as if this morphed into, "My team is being run by idiots". At least the Sabres seem to have learned something locking in the very talented Tage Thompson.
This should have been two videos, my man. We went from ‘The Strangest Trades in the NHL’, to ‘Jim Benning sold the farm to pay for Conor Garland’. Both good videos in their own right, but a bit weird when mashed together.
I might not be understanding this correctly, but I believe the way waivers used to work back in the day was that the team claiming a player had to pay the previous team a dollar. Rather than getting a player for nothing, it cost $1. I don't know if that's really a "trade" so much as a waiver claim.
It was actually a trade for future considerations, which usually means you just take him and the trade is forgotten. I guess they just paid a dollar later to complete it. I guess the Jets were hoping the Ducks or Panthers would take him in the ex draft but didn't. Waiver draft was still 3 months away from when he was traded. Having watched draper and the Jets in that era, there was nothing memorable about him. People forget he also started in the minors with Detroit as well. He just got lucky.
The Ekman-Larsson trade didn’t make sense from the very start. Sure, they traded away bad contracts for him. They could have just waited a year because all of those contracts were about to expire. Instead, they took on Ekman-Larsson’s long term contract that would eat up cap space for years. Even longer now that he’s been bought out
Speaking of Larionov, and the Red Wings and trades. In the summer of 2000 the Wings let him in free agency only to acquire him in a trade in December of that same year.
As a lifetime Kings fan, it was tough when Toffoli left after winning the Stanley Cup. But it was Vancouver, so what are they going to do? They've been rebuilding since the Sedins retired 🤷♂️🤷♂️
As a Wings fan, I have admiration for the way the Canes manage their team and salary cap. Don Waddell, I feel, is doing an underreported master's job as GM.
I know you've covered it in another horrible trades video, but it pisses me off so much that I'll mention it again. The whole Parise and Suter fiasco. They paid them each almost as much as Ovechkin was getting at the time, AND the eventual buyout basically ruined The Wilds chance at a Cup for 20 years. They're so far in cap debt, that they have the cost of TWO superstars that could be playing with Kaprizov and Boldy hanging over their heads. Thanks Fletcher!!!
Hard to believe the Wings were hot on the trail after them as well. I mean, even the Wings owner, Mike Ilitch, personally flew down to Nashville to meet with Suter. Luckily, for the Wings, those two chose home (because they were both from MN) over solid chances to play for the Cup.
You have such a funny cadence when you speak. Seems like you’re putting commas in the middle of your sentence where they don’t belong. Always makes me laugh. Love your videos.
The Pettersson contract point is moot. Its been clear from his 3rd year.. He doesn't want to stay in Vancouver long term. He wants to win. This Canucks Franchise is a joke & has got more comical year over year since EP got here.. He's gone! My only hope is they don't botch the trade!
There are several trades you missed and they are very recent. One is trading Marc Andre Fleury, who won the Vezina Trophy in 2021, to the Chicago Blackhawks for LITERALLY NOTHING! Then there is also Mac Pacioretty being traded to the Carolina Hurricanes for FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS (which somehow worked in Vegas' favor since Pacioretty continued to get injured and is now with the Capitals. It's like Vegas knew he was going to get injured again). Then comes this recent offseason where Josh Bailey got traded to the Chicago Blackhawks (along with a 2nd round pick) for FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS! I would have laughed at the Islanders except the Blackhawks bought out Bailey (but then I laughed at the Islanders when they grossly overpaid Pierre Engvall). Kailer Yamamoto and Klim Kostin also got traded for future considerations. It is like good players being traded for nothing is a recent trend. Lastly, it is trading Anthony Duclair to the Sharks in exchange for a 4th line centerman in Steven Lorentz and a 2025 5th round pick. Like, they couldn't give the Panthers Hertl, Couture, Lebanc, or a 1st or 2nd round pick?
Draper actually gave Wings owner, Mike Illitch ( RIP) the dollar and thanked him for bringing him to Detroit --- class act ..... Not that great of player , but good guy.
Amazing video! However, I do have just one small bit of constructive criticism. Rob, unfortunately, the method by which you announce the videos is very hard to listen to. If I were put the sentences in writing by the way they sound, they would not make any sense. Example " We're talking about a three, four million dollar difference. That four million. In additional cap space. Is the difference between having championship-caliber depth. Or a shaky bottom six. As this trade. Emphasizes. How if a GM. Isn't focused on the long term..."
They let toffoli walk because of a conditional 4th round pick would have been given up if he resigned. This was jimbos attempt at saving draft picks folks lol
Devils fan. Feel there will be a dip in points. But otherwise feel better about the long-term health of the franchise for the first time since Brodeur retired.
I'm a Flames fan, but I think the devils will be in contention for the Presidents Trophy this season. Wish we could have kept Toffoli, but he'll be a good scorer for you guys on the left or right. Even though he was playing right wing, a ton of his goals were on the left. Maybe Toffoli-Hughes-Bratt, or Toffoli-Hischier-Meier would be good lines. Should be lots of production from both of those.
@@sakalaath With all the lean years since the 90's, I know to temper expectations. Hughes isn't at the Ilya Kovalchuk point where he can just will the team to some success. As well, to be seen whether Akira Schmid is the real deal, or if there will be another goalie circus. It's the Ranger fans that expect to win every year. ; )
McDonalds Canada has a one dollar coffee deal all summer. Although, factoring in all the tax and environmental fees...we pay 25 cents for the paper cup and a dime for a bag in Vancouver...it's closer to a buck and a half.
Debrincat to Detroit he scored upwards of 80 points. I was actually surprised that a team like Seattle didn't make a move for him earlier in this off-season.
Ray Shepperd was overrated. Couldn't play defense and i recall him being a crappy skater. On top of that he came into the league when trapping was new and people cared only about defense.
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What is the strangest trade you can think of?
the hoffman trade to san jose. Where he instantly got traded to florida right afterwards
When the Nordiques traded Lindros to the Rangers and the Flyers.
I forgot how just odd this one was:
North Stars draft Guy Lafleur from the Nordiques then trade him back. Weird since Minnesota was drafting players in the 1991 draft when San Jose entered the league; they didn't want anyone from Quebec so drafted a retired player; traded him back because Lafleur couldn't work the front office position the Nordiques had offered; received a player already confirmed as leaving the league to play in Europe.
Benning may go down in history as the worst GM the Canucks have ever had. As a Canucks fan his entire tenure had me fuming.
brother, he's in the top 3 of worst GMs of all time, let alone the canucks
Not just in Canucks history but in the whole damn league. Benning is close to Milbury levels of outright incompetence. I rarely wish failure on someone but I hope to never hear him get another job at the NHL level. No fanbase deserves to suffer his idiocy the way we did.
Not sure how he has escaped firing.
@@stevencooke6451 he definitely did get fired. Thankfully even though some fans have issues with him, Patrick Alvin seems to be doing a much better job. Even though he still has to deal with the awful team owners.
from watching them play when we had tofoli. i think during that time. one of their poster child was boeser for the nucks, and brock didnt like tyler cause he bumped him down to the 2nd line.
I really want to see two teams trade future considerations for future considerations
You're forgetting the STRANGEST trade EVER in NHL History.
Ton 'Bussey' Martin was traded for a bus.
That';s right. a player was traded for a vehicle.
Off google itself:
Tom Martin holds one distinction that no one in the NHL, and maybe the entire sports world, could claim about his playing days.
Martin, who was a fourth-round draft pick by the Winnipeg Jets in 1982, was traded for a bus -- a used bus.
If I'm a GM, I would've had Jim Benning on speed dial. Worst GM probably ever?
Hahaha
You forgot that Gart Snow and Mike Milbury exist.
the gm of toronto that signer jeff finger and made a mistake in the name
7:59 I've been saying it for awhile. The Canucks and Pettersson should publicly "struggle to come to terms on a deal", Pettersson should "demand a trade", and then the Canucks should trade the defenseman Elias Pettersson they have in their system for the center's price.
🤣
I’m not sure the league would allow that but holy fuck would that be funny
Also a funny fact that you didn't mention about the Toffoli trade is the fact the next season with the lost of Toffoli the Canucks misses the playoffs due to lack of depth scoring, but the teams who signs him (habs) ended up in the finals and he was a big part of it. I was sad when he got traded in 2022, but we ended up with Mesar, Heinneman and Volokhin, which is pretty good asset management, compared to the Bennings era xD
You forgot about the Cam Neely trade... ahh... the Canucks and their trade history... 😅
Bros team is going through enough already he doesnt need to bring it up hahaha 😅
At least the naslund trade was a steal
Barry Pederson? That one quickly became a disaster.
As both a jets fan and a Canucks fan I don’t know if I can do this anymore 💀
I feel as if this morphed into, "My team is being run by idiots".
At least the Sabres seem to have learned something locking in the very talented Tage Thompson.
Another banger vid by rob keep it up!
Excellent video. Thank you
This should have been two videos, my man. We went from ‘The Strangest Trades in the NHL’, to ‘Jim Benning sold the farm to pay for Conor Garland’. Both good videos in their own right, but a bit weird when mashed together.
I might not be understanding this correctly, but I believe the way waivers used to work back in the day was that the team claiming a player had to pay the previous team a dollar. Rather than getting a player for nothing, it cost $1. I don't know if that's really a "trade" so much as a waiver claim.
It was actually a trade for future considerations, which usually means you just take him and the trade is forgotten. I guess they just paid a dollar later to complete it.
I guess the Jets were hoping the Ducks or Panthers would take him in the ex draft but didn't.
Waiver draft was still 3 months away from when he was traded.
Having watched draper and the Jets in that era, there was nothing memorable about him.
People forget he also started in the minors with Detroit as well. He just got lucky.
That $1 trade was personal
The Ekman-Larsson trade didn’t make sense from the very start. Sure, they traded away bad contracts for him. They could have just waited a year because all of those contracts were about to expire. Instead, they took on Ekman-Larsson’s long term contract that would eat up cap space for years. Even longer now that he’s been bought out
Come on, Rob! Hockey teams don't have ASSISTANT captains. They have ALTERNATE captains. YOU (of all people) should know that! 😂
Not until I read this comment did I realize I had said it wrong my entire life lmao. I even wore an A many times hahaha
Speaking of Larionov, and the Red Wings and trades. In the summer of 2000 the Wings let him in free agency only to acquire him in a trade in December of that same year.
At 5:00 is that Runescape music :oooo?
Golden eye (;
shoutout to the 007 goldeneye jams in the background
As a lifetime Kings fan, it was tough when Toffoli left after winning the Stanley Cup. But it was Vancouver, so what are they going to do? They've been rebuilding since the Sedins retired 🤷♂️🤷♂️
6:53 you forgot the retained cap for (what's left). Jimmy Ben Bendity Derpers FTW
As a Wings fan, I have admiration for the way the Canes manage their team and salary cap. Don Waddell, I feel, is doing an underreported master's job as GM.
Jim Benning screwed us over
As A canucks fan Im pissed at hearing toffoli wanted to come back he was good.
The Canucks saga gets even worse as after letting OEL walk they coughed up another first round pick to get Hronek.
at least it wasn't their own first
The James Bond theme in the background 😂
Garland actually panned out. Pettersson bridge deal was so bad bc now we were forced into a massive contract
I know you've covered it in another horrible trades video, but it pisses me off so much that I'll mention it again. The whole Parise and Suter fiasco. They paid them each almost as much as Ovechkin was getting at the time, AND the eventual buyout basically ruined The Wilds chance at a Cup for 20 years. They're so far in cap debt, that they have the cost of TWO superstars that could be playing with Kaprizov and Boldy hanging over their heads. Thanks Fletcher!!!
Hard to believe the Wings were hot on the trail after them as well. I mean, even the Wings owner, Mike Ilitch, personally flew down to Nashville to meet with Suter. Luckily, for the Wings, those two chose home (because they were both from MN) over solid chances to play for the Cup.
Great video.
You have such a funny cadence when you speak. Seems like you’re putting commas in the middle of your sentence where they don’t belong. Always makes me laugh. Love your videos.
His pronunciation of “cap-HIT” was killing me
Tuckers second trade was to avoid Washington losing him for nothing in the waiver draft. The Flyers did similar with Pete Peters and Keith Acton
Might have to pick myself up a HABS collectors box from your site when I get paid in a couple weeks, I've been dying to get more HABS cards.
The Pettersson contract point is moot. Its been clear from his 3rd year.. He doesn't want to stay in Vancouver long term. He wants to win. This Canucks Franchise is a joke & has got more comical year over year since EP got here.. He's gone!
My only hope is they don't botch the trade!
Forgot to mention that Taffoli helped the habs to the cup final the next year.
There are several trades you missed and they are very recent. One is trading Marc Andre Fleury, who won the Vezina Trophy in 2021, to the Chicago Blackhawks for LITERALLY NOTHING! Then there is also Mac Pacioretty being traded to the Carolina Hurricanes for FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS (which somehow worked in Vegas' favor since Pacioretty continued to get injured and is now with the Capitals. It's like Vegas knew he was going to get injured again). Then comes this recent offseason where Josh Bailey got traded to the Chicago Blackhawks (along with a 2nd round pick) for FUTURE CONSIDERATIONS! I would have laughed at the Islanders except the Blackhawks bought out Bailey (but then I laughed at the Islanders when they grossly overpaid Pierre Engvall). Kailer Yamamoto and Klim Kostin also got traded for future considerations. It is like good players being traded for nothing is a recent trend. Lastly, it is trading Anthony Duclair to the Sharks in exchange for a 4th line centerman in Steven Lorentz and a 2025 5th round pick. Like, they couldn't give the Panthers Hertl, Couture, Lebanc, or a 1st or 2nd round pick?
Did u just say Vegas focused on young talent? They traded for half their lineup
I dated Igors Daughter 8 years ago.
jared mcann for a 7th
Wasn't tkachuk traded because he didn't plan on signing to Calgary long term?
Markus Nasuld for Alek Stojanov is a pretty weird one. I guess it's more lopsided than weird.
As a Canuck fan, they picked Jake virtanen over toffoli.. and what OEL trade was so bad..
Still hate that the canucks traded toffoli and resigned jake to buy him out the next year...
Vegas has a focus on developing young talent? Little did I know...
Draper actually gave Wings owner, Mike Illitch ( RIP) the dollar and thanked him for bringing him to Detroit --- class act ..... Not that great of player , but good guy.
Amazing video! However, I do have just one small bit of constructive criticism. Rob, unfortunately, the method by which you announce the videos is very hard to listen to. If I were put the sentences in writing by the way they sound, they would not make any sense. Example " We're talking about a three, four million dollar difference. That four million. In additional cap space. Is the difference between having championship-caliber depth. Or a shaky bottom six. As this trade. Emphasizes. How if a GM. Isn't focused on the long term..."
They let toffoli walk because of a conditional 4th round pick would have been given up if he resigned.
This was jimbos attempt at saving draft picks folks lol
…..who would’ve thought a dollar would go such a long way
Devils fan. Feel there will be a dip in points. But otherwise feel better about the long-term health of the franchise for the first time since Brodeur retired.
I'm a Flames fan, but I think the devils will be in contention for the Presidents Trophy this season. Wish we could have kept Toffoli, but he'll be a good scorer for you guys on the left or right. Even though he was playing right wing, a ton of his goals were on the left. Maybe Toffoli-Hughes-Bratt, or Toffoli-Hischier-Meier would be good lines. Should be lots of production from both of those.
@@sakalaath With all the lean years since the 90's, I know to temper expectations. Hughes isn't at the Ilya Kovalchuk point where he can just will the team to some success. As well, to be seen whether Akira Schmid is the real deal, or if there will be another goalie circus.
It's the Ranger fans that expect to win every year. ; )
Aren’t you Canadian? $1 is much cheaper than a coffee!
With inflation you might be able to afford half a coffee
McDonalds Canada has a one dollar coffee deal all summer. Although, factoring in all the tax and environmental fees...we pay 25 cents for the paper cup and a dime for a bag in Vancouver...it's closer to a buck and a half.
It isn’t the biggest trade but Simmonds dem the devils to the sabres at the 2020 deadline made no sense
Wings stay fleecing. Long live hockeytown babyyy
Coffee at Tim Hortons is 2,46$ cad for a large !!!
Letting good players go to ufa is always a huge L. Even if you have to overpay at the time it's worth it if they are good.
Man I miss Tyler toffoli
And now Tyler Toffoli would be traded again but this time to New Jersey
Debrincat to Detroit he scored upwards of 80 points. I was actually surprised that a team like Seattle didn't make a move for him earlier in this off-season.
Hockey's the BEST GAME ON EARTH!!
Depth scoring and goaltending wins Cups.
I am a Buffalo Sabres fan ....... and they like to be the NHL's farm team!!! 🤢
Why are we whispering?
dubas just about lost every trade he ever made for the leafs. have fun with that clown pittsburgh
Unofficial deals man
mika Zibanejad trade ottawa to NYR
what is management smoking in Vancouver ??? shhhheeet show of nhl history!!
Ray Shepperd was overrated. Couldn't play defense and i recall him being a crappy skater. On top of that he came into the league when trapping was new and people cared only about defense.
#firebenning
HEE HEE HEE HAA
Nobody around here missing horvat
How about that stupid Maple Leafs trade many years ago? Trading away Russ courtnall for John kordic
you talk to your bf in the shower with that voice?
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And then sign JT Miller after Benning is fired. 🤦🤦🏒🏒