@@jw25000 True, but we found that if you wait just a little sometimes, you might luck up and either get a slightly less empty car, or find a seat before the train gets packed.
I noticed that the first cars that were originally delivered had the same propulsion noise as the blue line trains, but it seems like all the other cars after that have a different propulsion noise for some reason. I'm not sure why.
@@azan-183 I think they use MELCO traction. The Blue Line cars use Siemans. But they do all sound similar. The Type 8 green line cars use the Bombardier propulsion. The MELCO seem to sound similar to the siemens one.
@@Spaceshotx7 interesting, I personally think the Mitsubishi/MELCO propulsion/traction sounds like the Bombardier MITRAC because it has a smoother acceleration tone than the Siemens SITRAC.
Yes but as everyone knows the new Orange line car's are a disabled and not in operation at this point. We're have to rely on the old Orange line car's. These cars should have been in operation 3 years ago
Goodness the MBTA can't do anything right can they whats with the NY like benches, no one likes those there and we don't want them here. The tech isn't bad but I'm not on the orange line to admire their interior design.
You guys seem to forget there are literally tens of thousands of CRRC made subway cars in operation. CRRC Changchun the manufacturer of these new trains is also supplied the majority of the rolling stock in the Beijing Subway system along with may other systems in China. But somehow they work fine there, powering the world's busiest subway systems while being perfectly reliable. And suddenly they experience lots and lots of problems here in Boston. Which do you think is more likely the cause, CRRC's engineering or MBTA's incompetence and deplorable track conditions?
@@semicolontransistor It seems to be manufacturing problems. CRRC units have been problematic in mainland China, Hong Kong and Singapore. These issues went beyond normal teething problems. Also if the Hawker Siddley units were able to cope with these conditions for 40 years then why can't the new units do the same??
@@clemthomas6964 I mean I never heard about massive about of problems in Beijing. I lived there for 14 years and as I said they use almost exclusively CRRC units. Sure there where minor problems here or there but nothing serious enough to have entire fleets pulled. What I suspect happened is that the CRRC was not designed to deal with the track conditions of the MBTA. Since most of its units are used in new and well-maintatined systems. Also calling the older units handling it is well, a bit generous towards them. Every time I took the Orange Line there has been an out of station stop. I have also seen massive sparks thrown by these trains that light up half a station. I guess at the end of the day, I just really want to get people to understand that China = cheap and crap is not true.
Tech trains runs smoothly but unfortunately the sizes of the heights are too small door windows are a little too wide too, American car facilities need to be redeveloped and use more proper measurements because trains from outer countries overseas with smaller sizes are indecent and not 100% normal too!
i like the sound when it departs it reminds me of the blue line
3:42 If i were that lady, I wouldn't miss an opportunity to ride the new cars.
Yeah but pretty sure she didn't wanna be on a crowded train because who knows how far she has to go. I would've let it go as well. Always another day.
@@blue9multimediagroup haha that’s true. Except with rush hour it’s a bit hard to find an empty train...
@@jw25000
True, but we found that if you wait just a little sometimes, you might luck up and either get a slightly less empty car, or find a seat before the train gets packed.
Look like she don't like CRRC and prefer to ride the old American made train
@@PreciousAlpschindlerCanadian*
It sounds like a lot of people were talking about new cars on the train
Most people were.
Frank Ogelsby lives on!
Yeah. He's a staple for the MBTA announcements.
I hate these announcements it is sick blank boring and disgusting.
Its been a year since they first debuted, I remember that first ride!
You should try to ride the new greenline cars. Theyre really nice, they only run on the D branch as of now during morning rushour
Love riding the Orange Line during my time in Boston...I would find it more fun if Florence Pugh was with me!
At 1:20, the announcement only mentions just commuter rail. I already miss when they said Needham Line. But anyways good video too.
And “Bus Connections™️”
Trying to keep the announcements short.
They have signs for the connections in each car.
@@blue9multimediagroup what about blind people who can't see how are they supposed to know
Why do they all arrive with all the red taillights still lit too
Is this Baltimore or Washington DC transit system
I noticed that the first cars that were originally delivered had the same propulsion noise as the blue line trains, but it seems like all the other cars after that have a different propulsion noise for some reason. I'm not sure why.
IGBT-VVVF.
@Loser How do you know what the new mta R211 rains sound like? you have a video of it?
Does anyone know if these trains use Bombardier MITRAC (this video sounds like that) or Siemens?
@@azan-183 I think they use MELCO traction. The Blue Line cars use Siemans. But they do all sound similar. The Type 8 green line cars use the Bombardier propulsion. The MELCO seem to sound similar to the siemens one.
@@Spaceshotx7 interesting, I personally think the Mitsubishi/MELCO propulsion/traction sounds like the Bombardier MITRAC because it has a smoother acceleration tone than the Siemens SITRAC.
WELCOME BACK FRANK!!
The announcements on the new orange Line cars are terrible I don’t like Frank’s voice. I like android voice
Yes but as everyone knows the new Orange line car's are a disabled and not in operation at this point. We're have to rely on the old Orange line car's. These cars should have been in operation 3 years ago
Can someone explain to me why they have forward facing red lights? Is that not against FRA regulations?
Great video, Ram!
Nice video Robert
Oh they are spiffy. they really are quiet.
nice one robert
The new orange line cars are now lemons because they got pulled from service last year
Are you surprised they were made in China
Should've had walk through cars tbh
Goodness the MBTA can't do anything right can they whats with the NY like benches, no one likes those there and we don't want them here. The tech isn't bad but I'm not on the orange line to admire their interior design.
Nice!
Me living in Forest hills NYC💀
They kinda look like the MTA Long Island Railroad Electric units
Nice! I hope to film these cars soon! As I’m not too familiar with the subway, how many of these sets are currently in service?
Right now, 1. They are kinda a mess at some points, so it is kinda hard to keep them in service for a continuous amount of time.
China train bad
Jk, great catch Tobert.
You guys seem to forget there are literally tens of thousands of CRRC made subway cars in operation. CRRC Changchun the manufacturer of these new trains is also supplied the majority of the rolling stock in the Beijing Subway system along with may other systems in China. But somehow they work fine there, powering the world's busiest subway systems while being perfectly reliable. And suddenly they experience lots and lots of problems here in Boston. Which do you think is more likely the cause, CRRC's engineering or MBTA's incompetence and deplorable track conditions?
@@semicolontransistor It seems to be manufacturing problems. CRRC units have been problematic in mainland China, Hong Kong and Singapore. These issues went beyond normal teething problems. Also if the Hawker Siddley units were able to cope with these conditions for 40 years then why can't the new units do the same??
@@clemthomas6964 I mean I never heard about massive about of problems in Beijing. I lived there for 14 years and as I said they use almost exclusively CRRC units. Sure there where minor problems here or there but nothing serious enough to have entire fleets pulled. What I suspect happened is that the CRRC was not designed to deal with the track conditions of the MBTA. Since most of its units are used in new and well-maintatined systems. Also calling the older units handling it is well, a bit generous towards them. Every time I took the Orange Line there has been an out of station stop. I have also seen massive sparks thrown by these trains that light up half a station. I guess at the end of the day, I just really want to get people to understand that China = cheap and crap is not true.
I thought CRRC was Japanese train. Very surprising
@@PreciousAlpschindler chinese
Tech trains runs smoothly but unfortunately the sizes of the heights are too small door windows are a little too wide too, American car facilities need to be redeveloped and use more proper measurements because trains from outer countries overseas with smaller sizes are indecent and not 100% normal too!
Made in China 😄
Yep! The US let us china make the trains!
No wonder this train give me the Beijing subway vibe
@@PreciousAlpschindler LOL🤣