BATTLETECH: The Urbanmech

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  • Опубліковано 6 чер 2022
  • Well we’re back in action with a new #Battletech / #Mechwarrior video. This video is also going to be fulfilling our Member Goal which was from last month, which was to do a video in the voice of #Kermit / #KermitTheFrog, so you will have to forgive the amphibious tone of this video.
    The #Urbanmech is a staple of Battletech at this point, a #Battlemech with an odd shape and questionable quality. Let’s talk about this today.
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  • @SirKaldar
    @SirKaldar 2 роки тому +250

    Try not to think about it as the slowest, least mobile Battlemech. But as the fastest, most mobile turret!

  • @osogitzgraymane72
    @osogitzgraymane72 2 роки тому +397

    Remember, it's called a trashcan not a trashcant.
    Kermit voice for the win.

    • @VallornDeathblade
      @VallornDeathblade 2 роки тому +24

      Trashcan, not Trashcannot. Everyone laughs until some insane Solaris jockey straps an AC20 to one and cores an Atlas.

    • @TonganJedi
      @TonganJedi 2 роки тому +2

      Exactly what I was thinking. Hey, Kermit!

    • @hamsta11
      @hamsta11 2 роки тому +2

      How about Trash-able? Trash-handy?

    • @Sir_Loin_Of_Beef
      @Sir_Loin_Of_Beef Рік тому

      @@VallornDeathblade double or tripple crit, two gyros or 3 engine parts. I mean it's possible, but not very likely. Headshot though would be glorious. That once happened to me, not with an urbanmech but a hunchback. My annihilator wept

    • @guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285
      @guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285 Рік тому

      @@VallornDeathblade The atlas can trade just fine with the urbanmech since it actually has the armor to deal with that hit while the urbie most assuredly can't.

  • @skrakarkaraskul2842
    @skrakarkaraskul2842 2 роки тому +274

    Hearing the Kermit voice, I was sorta expecting a tangent about diving into the belly of a dragon to save your father with nothing but an Urbie to aid you.

    • @TheGreenKnight500
      @TheGreenKnight500 2 роки тому +27

      This is an expert from Col. Peterson's new book "12 Rules for Mech Combat: An Antidote for Clanners"

    • @SRTifiable
      @SRTifiable 2 роки тому +11

      “Kermit the Frog here…”

    • @baker90338
      @baker90338 2 роки тому +6

      @@TheGreenKnight500 that sound like a hell of a mech book.

    • @richardstanek5549
      @richardstanek5549 2 роки тому +3

      or maybe a guest appearance by Oscar the Grouch to express his opinion on it

    • @greysonjones5429
      @greysonjones5429 Рік тому

      Same man XD

  • @Iknowtoomuchable
    @Iknowtoomuchable 2 роки тому +153

    They might not seem like much, but in my experience Urbies tend to fight like they're the third monkey on the ramp to Noah's Ark.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому +24

      It may fight that way, but sadly, it ends up crossing the rainbow bridge more times than not.

    • @TheRoboKitty
      @TheRoboKitty 2 роки тому +21

      @ZeroZenth I learned pretty quickly that what an Urbie lacks in speed, it makes up for with its autocannon _shotgun._ You WILL lose your armor if you don't take care of them first, and you do not want to be going anywhere with broken armor

    • @EgorKaskader
      @EgorKaskader 2 роки тому +14

      It dies, in no small part, because you must recognise the threat it presents and focus it down before it's able to engage. Ignore the walking turret with a BFG at your own peril. In cities, its intended terrain, it's an even worse adversary to ignore because its low mobility no longer prevents it from closing range unmolested, and it still carries a solid coating of armor and a pretty obscene amount of firepower for its size.

    • @Arvyn992
      @Arvyn992 2 роки тому +5

      @@TheRoboKitty imagine if theres a variant of the urban that has two ac/20-Bf

    • @spacewolfblackmane19
      @spacewolfblackmane19 2 роки тому +2

      @@TheRoboKitty Ya there pretty cool the first cople of times, but i have no idea what is going on with the enemy generator when it views "greater threat" with populating the map with nothing but a small battalion of Urbies all with freaken Ac 20 BURSTFIRES. at that point they have long sense stopped being fun to fight and have become an annoyance that i don't even bother to kill anymore, just shoot off the gun and keep going

  • @SchroederUSMC
    @SchroederUSMC 2 роки тому +89

    Many BattleTech players don't understand the origin of the Urbanmech and what it was built for. The Urbanmech came with the CityTech Expansion, where the battles were in cities with brutal skidding rules and damage when you ran into buildings. Moving fast usually meant you broke your mech. Also, C-Bills were introduced as a method for pricing mechs. Most of us would pair up mech lances by weight, but C-Bills introduced the concept of balancing lances by cost. As stated, the Urbanmech was both very cheap and moved slow, which in some games made it really good if it was used in its intended environment and you played by C-Bills.

    • @VulpisFoxfire
      @VulpisFoxfire Рік тому +4

      And then there were the Savanah Master kamikaze legions...

    • @BLOODKINGbro
      @BLOODKINGbro 5 місяців тому +1

      360 no scope means it can move and fire in all directions

  • @theblackpantslegion
    @theblackpantslegion 2 роки тому +135

    Nice

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому +30

      If only I could say the same thing about the Urbanmech :P

    • @theblackpantslegion
      @theblackpantslegion 2 роки тому +42

      @@BigRed40TECH You doubt its power?

    • @rhorybader4054
      @rhorybader4054 Рік тому +17

      @@BigRed40TECH Nothing is funnier than popping out in front of a 100 ton assault mech and then coring it instantly with a UAC/20. Either in tabletop OR video games.

    • @guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285
      @guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285 Рік тому +2

      @@rhorybader4054 I'd argue the look on the urbie players face as you field Warrior attack helicopeters is better since he can't engage, can't fall back and can't dodge your slurry of AC2 spitballs.

    • @rhorybader4054
      @rhorybader4054 Рік тому

      @@guitarhausdoesntknowwhatac3285 Helicopters ARE a pain, yes..

  • @kazekamiha
    @kazekamiha 2 роки тому +56

    Fun fact; the Battletech PC game has an achievement for killing another mech with an Urbie DFA: Humpty Stumpty.

    • @Solon_The_Lich
      @Solon_The_Lich Рік тому +2

      Oh i was missing that one, going to try to pull it next time i get a B Team contract

  • @skyvipers
    @skyvipers 2 роки тому +229

    The UrbanMechs main advantage is its stealth capabilities, and by stealth capabilities I mean "The enemy has so many other viable targets on the battlefield they're just going to ignore the UrbanMech(s)".
    That is... until one sneaks up (albeit very slowly) behind them with it's AC20....

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому +7

      ua-cam.com/video/mzWN4v2Ck0s/v-deo.html&ab_channel=vit0excalibur

    • @fuzztsimmers3415
      @fuzztsimmers3415 2 роки тому

      urbies dies first cause they die fast

    • @z3r0_35
      @z3r0_35 2 роки тому

      Not to mention it's small enough that, in its ideal battlefield (cities) it can hide behind structures, then jump over them and shoot you in the ass with its autocannon.

    • @pentultimatearsehole9190
      @pentultimatearsehole9190 2 роки тому +20

      So slow you never see them moving! That is until the AC20 says hi, then YOU are the primary target.

    • @hamsta11
      @hamsta11 2 роки тому +14

      Its the townguard of mechs... until it took an SRM to the knee actuator

  • @arbhall7572
    @arbhall7572 2 роки тому +47

    My brother&I used to play Battletech together, sometimes for entire weekends at a stretch. I fell in love with the clans, while he read the novels&just chuckled at me&my omnimech combinations.
    I once changed a Dire Wolf to my fave weapons&boasted to him that I would savage anything he deployed against my mighty configuration.
    He simply said "anything? Really!"
    I could only scoff&nod with way too much confidence.
    He simply noted what my configuration cost&asked if we could fight in the city.
    I had an active probe, so I foolishly agreed.
    So I marched my 100 ton Omni mech up to his city. Detected 6 mechs. So in I went, pulse lasers just a humming for some flimsy inner sphere mechs to light up.
    Because of the way city fighting works. I could only see 1 of the mechs at a time. So I laughed when I realized my 1st target was an Urbie.
    I shredded the thing with 2 large pulse lasers targeting its right arm. Easily overflowing the arm location&sinking a critical into the adjacent torso. Knocking out the squats main weapon.
    I laughed again. We ended the turn.
    My brother asked me if I wanted the good news or the worse news 1st?
    I said good news.
    Which was that I could now detect most of his garrison force. Which was 10 more Urbies in range of my active probe.
    The worse news was that I couldn't detect the other 9.
    He figured out that my 1 Omni could pay for 22 Urban mechs. Which is what I was facing.
    I got savaged.
    The pinnacle of clan tech. The best I could imagine using said tech.
    None of it mattered against waves of the little bastards, since I could at most, only target&maybe kill one or two every turn. Their speed didn't matter. They were already where they needed to be, just powered down&waiting. Their individual weapons&armor didn't matter.
    The entire point of an urbanmech is that it's a mobile weapon platform, that every city on every planet can afford, and realistically would.
    Just to accumulate them. Rethinking them as the most ridiculous infantry force over a long enough timeline. My brother just looked at the Urbie&saw where Elementals came from.
    I saw, like most, the wrong thing.

    • @lechking941
      @lechking941 Рік тому

      yep thoes fuckers are gloryfied walking turrets but HOLY FUCK are they lovable.

  • @enoughofyourkoicarp
    @enoughofyourkoicarp Рік тому +62

    Can you imagine showing up in the afterlife courtesy of an Urbie?
    "So what happened to you?"
    "I don't wanna talk about it."

    • @Solon_The_Lich
      @Solon_The_Lich Рік тому +6

      "Ehh... Uhhh... i died choking on a weiner"

    • @sheepking1
      @sheepking1 11 місяців тому +1

      Hey man that ac20bf is no joke if it catches you off gaurd

  • @mareczek00713
    @mareczek00713 2 роки тому +83

    Most people - "the fuck your doing, are you stupid, why do you field Urbies? “
    Me - "huehuehue, AC 20's go brrrr" (laughing maniacally while fielding 16 Urbies against a single Mad Cat).

    • @PopeMetallicus
      @PopeMetallicus 2 роки тому +13

      Ahhh the Urbie troll company...a tried and true classic

    • @WolfHreda
      @WolfHreda 2 роки тому +16

      Mix and match your company, half of the AC/20 models, and half with the original AC/10 for some added range.

    • @brianhenry152
      @brianhenry152 2 роки тому +5

      @@WolfHreda This.

    • @DaMasterPilot
      @DaMasterPilot 2 роки тому +7

      Add in the MRM version for just that extra bit of fuck you to whatever is on the other end.

    • @PopeMetallicus
      @PopeMetallicus 2 роки тому +5

      @@DaMasterPilot I only play 3025 and 50, so no MRMs for me. That AC/20 tho....mmmmmm

  • @TheRoboKitty
    @TheRoboKitty 2 роки тому +67

    Kermit the Frog does BattleTech is not the humor I wanted, but the humor I needed

  • @michaellaramee1965
    @michaellaramee1965 2 роки тому +53

    The Urbanmech best strength is the pure flex factor. One of my favourite HBS Battletech moments is when my Urbanmech in the beginning of the battle got a really lucky shot and shot the head off a shadow hawk. Even if the pilot had survived the embarrassment is too much

    • @joel-jx4wj
      @joel-jx4wj Рік тому +2

      God hope he didn't survive. Poor soul.

    • @lechking941
      @lechking941 Рік тому

      @@joel-jx4wj and if he did lets hope he can roll it off as some lucky shot by a locuest or soemthing as thoes things are to be feared when they can find ya and like a pack of wolves FUCK YA DAY!

  • @malcolmtudor8039
    @malcolmtudor8039 2 роки тому +32

    Never thought about Kermit as a mech guy. In hind sight, it kinda makes sense.

  • @subtlewhatssubtle
    @subtlewhatssubtle Рік тому +10

    The Urbanmech is one of the best rear-echelon guard dogs you can buy. Nothing says "hello fellow light Mech pilot, your day is going to suck" like suddenly having four Urbies show up babying the HQ vehicles you thought you could handle unimpeded.
    Remember, a lance of Urbies is really just an Annihilator that can crossfire you from four different angles.

  • @Hammerheadcruiser
    @Hammerheadcruiser 2 роки тому +20

    When you get ambushed by an urbi and a phoenix hawk, no matter which target you pick you're going to have a bad time.
    It's not a good mech, but it is perfectly willing to ruin your day for a fraction of the cost.

  • @brianhenry152
    @brianhenry152 2 роки тому +42

    The Urbie is just fun. In a one-off game, a lance of Urbanmechs against two mediums in an urban setting can be really enjoyable for both players. If used as slightly mobile ambush turrets, the Urbanmech is very effective. In literally any other role, it's going to come up short.

    • @braddl9442
      @braddl9442 2 роки тому +5

      That is literally how they are supposed to be used. The out of game factor is that a merc or pirate commander has the weigh the risk of engaging a city defended by them and if it will cost him more in parts and repairs to take that city. Your a Merc or pirate commander raiding a preph world. You have a mixed lance of med and lights. You land on a planet and find out that they have half company of urbies and militia dug in. Good luck.

  • @LORDOFDORKNESS42
    @LORDOFDORKNESS42 2 роки тому +46

    FYI, there was a semi-official LAM UrbanMech a few years ago, as part of an April Fools, if any of y'all are feeling extra heretical today.

    • @Colonel_Overkill
      @Colonel_Overkill 2 роки тому +2

      I actually made a few of these on my 3d printer and run them quite often just for shiggles. Also have an urban king crab because reasons.

    • @Chris_Sizemore
      @Chris_Sizemore 2 роки тому +4

      @@Colonel_Overkill Urban King Crab? What, is it 3 Urbanmechs duct taped together?

    • @deezboyeed6764
      @deezboyeed6764 2 роки тому +1

      @@Chris_Sizemore sounds like power rangers megazorb. The guns on an urbie replaced with other urbie torsos each with its own ac20, and each pilot having to cotrol their limb.

    • @Colonel_Overkill
      @Colonel_Overkill 2 роки тому

      @@Chris_Sizemore think an urban with king crab arms and legs

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 2 роки тому

      @@Chris_Sizemore 3 and a half urbies tapped together makes an Annihilator.

  • @z3r0_35
    @z3r0_35 2 роки тому +25

    I think my favorite model of the good old Urbie is actually the URM-90 SuburbanMech. I like the ammo independence and long range firepower provided by its PPC, which help to offset its low mobility if you have to use it outside of ideal terrain. On the other hand, unlike most UrbanMechs, you have to watch your heat in it, especially if alpha striking.
    Regarding the original design, what I find strange is that TRO:3025 makes mention of a machine gun that the URM-60 didn't have. I wonder if, instead of the superfluous eleventh heat sink (you will never, ever generate enough heat in a URM-60 to overheat), it was supposed to have a machine gun with half a ton of ammunition for it?

  • @BraindeadCRY
    @BraindeadCRY 2 роки тому +14

    The Urbie isn't actually a battlemech, it's a very ambitious turret living its dreams

  • @mr6johnclark
    @mr6johnclark 2 роки тому +42

    I was thinking the best way to implement urban mechs in an urban environment is to dig pits in cities and put them on hydraulic floors store them underground. when an enemy mech pops up deploy the urbanmech's huge AC and shoot them in the back or hide them in buildings. they are REALLY dangerous in large packs hiding in cities.

    • @mareczek00713
      @mareczek00713 2 роки тому +19

      Imagine using 3 Mad-Cats to invade a city only upon realizing you played C-Bills and your enemy has 48 Urbies, even with just an AC10 (and those madmen could run AC20) they will just hide until Mad-Cats enter their range only to jump on top of buildings and rip enemy to pieces losing maybe one or two Urbies generating losses of around 73 million C-Bills vs around 3 mill.
      Quantity is a quality.

    • @muninrob
      @muninrob 2 роки тому +27

      Don't forget, Urbies are short, they only take one floor of clearance indoors. Park inside - when the enemy passes by, you power up, walk through the wall (OHHH YEEEEAAAA!!!), shove your AC/20 against the Atlas's knee, pull the trigger, then cackle like a crazy person as you jump over the building.

    • @Jonnyg325
      @Jonnyg325 2 роки тому +11

      @@muninrob somebody is an urbie vet I see

    • @mr6johnclark
      @mr6johnclark 2 роки тому

      @@mareczek00713 to quote a famous youtuber jump on them likes monkey's high on meth.

    • @thespecialist4442
      @thespecialist4442 2 роки тому +3

      @@muninrob this... This comment is beautiful

  • @SelwynClydeAlojipan
    @SelwynClydeAlojipan 2 роки тому +20

    The Urbanmech is what an upgraded R2D2 astromech aspired to be.

  • @georgesulea
    @georgesulea 2 роки тому +31

    Wow...did not know Kermit liked Battletech. Mind blowing.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому +10

      Blame the UA-cam members, they asked for this. lol

    • @AdairCorbin
      @AdairCorbin 2 роки тому +5

      @@BigRed40TECH I can't believe you kept this up the whole time. Respect

  • @rudyvalle9022
    @rudyvalle9022 2 роки тому +98

    This mech is extremely effective in its intended role of being a joke.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому +11

      Oh 100%.
      House Davion keeps on trying to marshal a response, but sadly, the Shadow-Hawk is just too mediocre to be considered outright bad. And it lacks the Urbanmech's trashcan like shape.

    • @stevepirie8130
      @stevepirie8130 2 роки тому +17

      Everyone laughing and rioting until you walk round the corner into its sights.

    • @malusignatius
      @malusignatius 2 роки тому +9

      @@BigRed40TECH I see your Urbie and Shadow Hawk and raise you the Charger.

    • @semperatis
      @semperatis 2 роки тому +10

      Davion's UM-R90 was at least a step in the right direction at improving the Urbie. Increased the engine size to a 90, rather than the original 60, removed the AC-10 for a PPC and added 2 Medium Lasers whilst retaining the original Small Laser and added a third jump jet and a further 2 heatsinks.

    • @malusignatius
      @malusignatius 2 роки тому +7

      @@semperatis Yup, the Suburbanmech's definitely a more versatile design overall. Not the same niche space as the original, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
      Possibly the silliest thing I've done with and Urbie is take the Capellan AC-20 version and shoe-horn in a Gauss rifle to replace the AC-20. It's ridiculous, I don't deny that, but no more than the Arrow IV was.

  • @benlaskowski357
    @benlaskowski357 2 роки тому +36

    I gave one of these a gauss rifle, giving it serious long-range punch. It still hurts a lot up close, too. A lance of these, fighting other light mechs or vehicles, are brutal. With the Gauss I can cockpit-snipe bigger mechs as well as pulverize Locusts and Javelins.
    I call it UM-R357. Magnum.

    • @Archangelm127
      @Archangelm127 Рік тому

      Cool story, bro. ❤

    • @lechking941
      @lechking941 Рік тому

      and as a locuest user i fucking hate seeing em with anythin close to BIG. i first blow the gun then dome the drive because as i am :P smoll mech meats smol lazor means overall pain.

  • @realmofrandom3696
    @realmofrandom3696 2 роки тому +14

    i often just destroy the right arm to remove the cannon, and leave it nearly harmless, and leave it to the mercy of my lancemates,
    however, i must note that to a light mech such as a locust, a pair of urban mechs makes for a considerable threat in the close quarters confines of a city. their strength lies in numbers, especially in city environments, and given how cheap they are its really easy to take advantage of this strength.

  • @joshuamidgette4846
    @joshuamidgette4846 2 роки тому +7

    Honestly with unlimited torso twist, a lance of urbanmechs in a city is a dangerous thing. Though if your shopping for autocannons any urbanmech out in the open is an easy way to acquire one.

    • @Herbile7
      @Herbile7 Рік тому +2

      So many people overlook the torsotwist. They claim it's easy to out flank.... but you can't outflank a 360 degree torso twist.

  • @Gigas0101
    @Gigas0101 2 роки тому +8

    I love running the Capellan variant of this thing. Someone coming around a corner just to discover they're missing a few components due to encountering a light mech with an AC20? Priceless. Disregard that one game where I was outgunned and almost lost to a tank...

  • @Aettaro
    @Aettaro 2 роки тому +6

    I recall in Mech Commander 2, I used to turn Urbies into essentially discount Hollanders by mounting a Light Gauss Rifle to them, and they were light enough that I could bring a bunch of them and just make the enemy's life a bit of a hell.
    They were little better than sniper turrets, but for defense missions they were quite useful. The bestest angy trashcans.

  • @CharlesUrban
    @CharlesUrban 2 роки тому +5

    I like the Urbanmech. It performs in its intended role well enough, and even if you're not too fond of it, you don't have to pay much for it. Astute pilots can use the mech's Extended Torso Twist to keep faster opponents (i.e., all opponents) in their sights. Further, if more intimidating ally mechs are nearby, enemies are likely to dismiss Urbanmechs and focus on the greater threat. This tends to be a sound tactic...but every so often, these enemies wind up with the Urbies' oversized guns trained on their rear arcs. You can't ask Urbanmechs to win a battle by themselves, but maybe...if you're fighting in dense terrain or a city...you can use them to surprise the hell out of someone who isn't paying attention. And that's a lot of fun.

  • @WolfHreda
    @WolfHreda 2 роки тому +5

    Remember, it's a trash can, not a trash can't.
    My favorite change to this 'mech is to replace the AC with a PPC, change the small laser to a medium, and add more armor.

  • @fpsempire0599
    @fpsempire0599 2 роки тому +7

    I find it amazing and hilarious that he did a Kermit impression the ENTIRE video lmao

  • @Arvyn992
    @Arvyn992 2 роки тому +13

    I feel out of all the mechs from battletech ir mechwarrior the urbanmech would be somewhat the easiest mech we can make today possibly minus the jump jets

  • @Shadowsearcher64
    @Shadowsearcher64 2 роки тому +4

    Don't forget that the Urbanmech can rotate its torso 360degrees. Its not much, but it does add to its urban fighting capabilities.

  • @Maladjester
    @Maladjester Рік тому +3

    I'm very new to Battletech. Really enjoying these videos. There's a bewildering variety and you turn them from mere names into personalities.
    I love the range of quality between mechs. Adds to verisimilitude because it mirrors the real world so well. It's like watching tank development in the World Wars, every country just throwing @*$(# at the wall to see what stuck. Some hit the jackpot, with others it was more like hitting the chamberpot. It's also typical of military hardware being ordered by politicians and bean counters rather than engineers or pilots. The people who know what's needed and/or possible often aren't the ones making the decisions.

  • @666kingdrummer
    @666kingdrummer Рік тому +4

    A guy I know on one of the Battletech community groups, posted that he just bought 10 Urbanmech lance packs (so 40 Urbanmechs in total) and is planning to field an Urbanmech army, simply because they're so cheap and he can.
    I keep hoping he posts footage of it, the turn order alone would be a sight to see.

  • @Wulfenbach
    @Wulfenbach 2 роки тому +37

    This video is perfect in 1.25x for that perfect Kermit experience really damn good!
    Good job bear good to hear that you are well :)
    Best mech ever xD

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому +5

      The best video, for the best mech.
      If by best, we mean worst. lol

  • @connorriggs1518
    @connorriggs1518 2 роки тому +16

    Good to see you back bear hope you’re recovery wasn’t to hard

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому +3

      Still in a small bit of recovery, but it was good to get this one done. :)

  • @kglguy
    @kglguy 2 роки тому +27

    I like the urbanmech, but not for gameplay. I think it's existance is great as worldbuilding. Much like nations still using the FT-17 as WWII rolled around, plenty of planetary militias have these because it's all they can afford. It's (a bit) better than nothing.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому +6

      Oh I love the Urbanmech.
      But it is garbage. lol

    • @muninrob
      @muninrob 2 роки тому +9

      @@BigRed40TECH You just don't have enough of them. If you have cost parity with your opponent they do surprisingly well against anything but light scout lances. (Also, your opponent might just give up halfway through your 1st turn of moving 60 urbies)
      P.S. A Mad Cat is going to be out of ammo long before it kills it's own cost in Urbanmechs.

    • @ChaosTicket
      @ChaosTicket 2 роки тому +4

      It makes no sense to have mechs that are "all they can afford". Battlemechs cost a lot more than Combat Vehicles.

    • @deezboyeed6764
      @deezboyeed6764 2 роки тому +2

      @@ChaosTicket its entirely makes sense.

    • @kglguy
      @kglguy 2 роки тому +2

      @@ChaosTicket It makes sense in the same way that nations still using T-55s makes sense.

  • @hamsta11
    @hamsta11 2 роки тому +2

    There must be a fanfic somewhere where an urbanmech jumpjets into the middle of a fray with the pilot screaming leroy jenkins and then Last Starfighter-style does the death blossom maneuver while rotating 360's

    • @hamsta11
      @hamsta11 2 роки тому

      so this urbie saturday night special build is a thing now: ua-cam.com/video/3sS7xfz6nfs/v-deo.html

  • @lichlord9838
    @lichlord9838 2 роки тому +7

    The Urbie is an amazing mech when you realize it's a hyper specialized designed. It is intended to defend cities, not towns, not jungles, cities. It's slow because it's intended to hold the line, not outflank anything, in areas with extreme cover. Peak behind a building, fire, lean back to having an entire skyscraper between you and return fire. It's jump jets are for jumping over buildings, again to safety of total cover. Someone made a joke comment about hiding inside a building, Kool Aid Manning through the wall, and shooting an assault mech in the back of the knee then jumping over another building to safety. That sounds funny, but seriously, that is exactly how an UrbanMech is intended to be used. And they are cheap as a factor of their design. Urbies are pack animals. Yeah, the FireStarter can jump in to flank it. Can the FireStarter survive the coming onslaught of point blank AC10 fire from the seven other Urbies?

    • @chrisbingley
      @chrisbingley 2 роки тому +2

      Remember, one of the variants comes with an AC20.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому +1

      And 4 tons of armour*

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому +1

      Even in a city, it's very possible to be outflanked in this thing by anything with jump jets.

    • @GnarledStaff
      @GnarledStaff 2 роки тому +1

      @@BigRed40TECH
      Doesnt the turrent turn all the way around though? You can still shoot them if they do flank you.
      I think you forgot to mention the extended rotation in the video.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому +1

      @@GnarledStaff A standard torso twist + right angle fires means it can always shoot behind it anyway. It also has the ability to arm-flip its cannons. A full torso twist only means it can use its small laser too. I'd argue that's of little consolation for it.

  • @chrisbingley
    @chrisbingley 2 роки тому +4

    Everybody gangsta, until their Atlas gets cored by a walking trashcan.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому

      Was the mech shut down? Was it parked?

  • @chrisgregory3955
    @chrisgregory3955 2 роки тому +9

    I used an Urbanmech to DFA an Atlas once. Freaking hilarious.

    • @robrib2682
      @robrib2682 2 роки тому

      If you actually hurt it, the pilot should have died of shame

    • @GhostBear3067
      @GhostBear3067 Рік тому +1

      Please tell me you screamed "GARBAGE DAY!!!" on impact. 🤣😆

    • @bigawesomedude
      @bigawesomedude Рік тому

      @@GhostBear3067 Coring assault mechs with an AC20 wielding trashcan is peak MWO

  • @mattikuokkanen
    @mattikuokkanen 2 роки тому +3

    Urbanmech alone may not seem much, but full lance of them is hella firepower on the budget. I just checked on MegaMek game that to match the BV values of Urbanmech and Panther, Urbanmech gets to have veteran MechWarrior (3 gunnery skill, 4 piloting skill) while Panther has green MechWarrior (5 gunnery skill, 6 piloting skill). 1 more thing going for Urbanmech is its weapons have field of fire in all directions as its arms can flip to rear arc.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому

      It's BV is that low for a reason. lol

  • @jaffarebellion292
    @jaffarebellion292 Рік тому +2

    Urbies, in my eyes, are swarmers. They're cheap, disposable, and decently armed. This means I can field shitloads of them at once and overwhelm anything my enemy can throw at me. When garbage day comes, kiss your loved ones farewell, because you're off to the great landfill in the sky... eventually.

  • @michaelsudsysutherland5353
    @michaelsudsysutherland5353 2 роки тому +5

    The ability to speak like Kermit for a video is raw talent! Yes, Urban mechs make for great jokes, or ablative armor for more important units (ablative armor that can sometimes pull off a DFA on an unsuspecting pirate medium mech....).

  • @GnarledStaff
    @GnarledStaff Рік тому +1

    I just played some MW5 and I want to say, rounding the corner of an urban street in a light mech and finding the barrel of an urbie's AC10 can signal a bad day for a locust or especially a flea.
    And the 360 degree rotation means that however you try to flank it you will find that barrel staring you down.
    I mean, sure, its not a good mech, but its a scavenger. Its job is to take out the beat up remnants of the attacking force that made it to what they thought was an undefended civilian population.
    Definitely needs another weapon though. Replacing the extra heatsink with a medium lazer would make it significantly better.
    Edit: the Urbies best feature is that its where it needs to be to defend the town because you took all the better mechs to go fight elsewhere.

  • @johnwiebe8581
    @johnwiebe8581 2 місяці тому +2

    That Kermit voice is excellent, I am sure vast quantities of helium were consumed in the making of this video!

  • @CruentusCruor
    @CruentusCruor Рік тому +2

    THAT KERMIT VOICE !!! You, Sir, made my day 🤣🤣🤣 Thank youuu~~

  • @RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts
    @RidinDirtyRollinBurnouts 2 роки тому +1

    Loved this video, your voice-over was epic and I'm glad you're showing the battletech universe a lot of love. Thanks for the work you do buddy!

  • @51DEMONIC
    @51DEMONIC 2 роки тому +2

    Well its dirt cheap and good for garrison or paying others with. Also a good use is to keep hot blooded rookies on a short leash, from rushing off and dying. Good for training folk teach them patience in positioning. Outside of that see them a lot used them would take almost any other mech....heck even a tank, but often you can find space for this mech. Also nice Kermit voice pretty good.

  • @spoonspoon7427
    @spoonspoon7427 2 роки тому +4

    Hope you get well soon, love these videos.

  • @JH-ph4qb
    @JH-ph4qb 2 роки тому +2

    You mock the Urbie, but we ran some events with it at our local games store and the thing shreds most things it encounters when in groups, and is quite useful in combined arms groups. they are 'just' durable enough to be able to survive long enough that they tend to not be ignorable. This is ultimately their best trait, they do to much damage to ignore but are not easy enough to swat away without drawing fire that would be better used elsewhere. Case in point, the SRM Carrier is both a more dangerous, faster, and more expensive target that is immediately prioritized for destruction...but if you pair it with some UM-60Ls that make it their express business to get in your rear arc...well now you have a Morton's fork of SRMs or AC20. It works surprisingly well in urban close quarters combat, especially if you use its quirks of extended torso twist and low profile.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому

      I've played 1000+ Battletech games. I'm not saying I've never seen an Urbanmech do well, but I do know what I've largely seen, which is its absolute annihilation. It's just a deeply flawed design with too many flaws to do much well.

  • @AdairCorbin
    @AdairCorbin 2 роки тому +7

    I know nobody generates forces of the old house based random tables anymore but when we played 3025 with random Mechs, was one of my favorite lights to get in many scenarios It actually has weapons and armor unlike, the locust, stinger, wasp,spider, etc I'd prefer a panther but still it was a decent roll on most tables

    • @texasdesertsailor2587
      @texasdesertsailor2587 6 місяців тому +1

      Actually I am running a game today where the angry urbanmech pilot took out a hunchback, spider, and pair of galleon tanks. They all just ignored it while dealing with the wasp and stinger first. Bad bad choice on their part. All forces generated on the table

  •  2 роки тому +1

    I can't keep a straight face throughout this XD Very nicely done!

  • @Taiko206
    @Taiko206 2 роки тому +7

    When playing MW5 the Urbie can be a real pain in the ass when fighting against it, especially in the early stages of ones' career or campaign. The burstfire AC/10 that they carry can wreak havoc on light and lighter medium Mechs.. And when adding the "Yet Another Mechlab" mod there's even a variant with twin AC/2-BF's wich should not be underestimated. Sofar i haven't kept any Urbie's i've salvaged, they're just too slow for my fighting style, but as i'm typing this comment i'm thinking to change that somewhat and experiment a bit since with the aformentioned mod you can also swap out the engines. Something to think about. In the Battletech VG however there's sadly no such thing as far as i no and thus no real reason for me to keep the Urbie around so they just keep on ending getting sold or scrapped.

    • @ThisName1
      @ThisName1 2 роки тому

      triple light ppc urbie sniper is surprisingly effective in MWO.

    • @AlexisVolk97
      @AlexisVolk97 2 роки тому +1

      In MW5 they are useful in the early game to anchor a really light lance, scrap jump jets and heatsinks, add a M laser and some more ammo/an AC5 and armour and you cut in half the repair costs on you locust/javelin/commando lance

    • @Taiko206
      @Taiko206 2 роки тому

      @@AlexisVolk97 Sounds like something i might want to try, though i might go for a better engine instead of slapping extra armour on

    • @AlexisVolk97
      @AlexisVolk97 2 роки тому +1

      @@Taiko206 that Marik start gave me a new love for light mechs, as they are all at least twice as good as an assassin

  • @Caffeinated_Kitsune
    @Caffeinated_Kitsune Рік тому +1

    I can't even begin to imagine how much this must've killed your throat to make, but damn if the Kermit impression isn't spot on.

  • @scottsmith582
    @scottsmith582 2 роки тому

    New to the channel, but glad to hear you are feeling better!

  • @DaMasterPilot
    @DaMasterPilot 2 роки тому +1

    Now just remember they made a fast one with a UAC 5. Nothing is more terrifying than an urbie that can move fast and hit just as hard.

  • @sethharpenger607
    @sethharpenger607 2 роки тому +2

    how did covid turn you into EVERY sesame street character

  • @passgo8507
    @passgo8507 2 роки тому +5

    All I could think while listening to this was “I bet Kermit stuffed gonzo into one of these and pushed him into Solarus after he caught a whiff of gonzo’s bacon smelling sniffer.”

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому

      He was sent to his death. An ignoble one!

    • @robrib2682
      @robrib2682 2 роки тому +2

      Honestly I would not be surprised if there was an arena on Solaris that only dealt with urbies and they ran the thing like a comedy show

    • @GnarledStaff
      @GnarledStaff 2 роки тому +2

      @@robrib2682 Urbie Derby!

    • @robrib2682
      @robrib2682 2 роки тому

      @@GnarledStaff I'm going to be honest now I kind of want to make a bit of terrain that just has that plastered across a giant banner, but I'm probably going to need to get the new catalyst urby so that I can figure out how tall the thing has to be at minimum

  • @FaceIntoKeyboard
    @FaceIntoKeyboard 2 роки тому +3

    More voices in the choir, I love it! I must say that while I disagree about the Urbie, I'm loving all of the videos that are coming out.

  • @KomodoVistas
    @KomodoVistas 7 місяців тому +1

    Aren't you going to go into the hero archetype that the Urbanmech aspires to be and starts with cleaning his roo- oh wait you're Kermit

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  7 місяців тому

      It's not easy being an Urbie.

  • @depth386
    @depth386 Рік тому

    When starting with an Urbie in Battletech(HBS) I find myself changing the AC down to an AC5, adding ML’s and armor. This is similar to the PPC “Suburban” variant where it at least has a sniper option in case the terrain demands it. So this way wether the PPC or the AC5, it can pick off turrets or retaliate against other typical longer ranged light forces like Condors, Vedettes, Locust LRM variant.
    I once did a babysitting mission with 2 newbie pilots in urbies and I was able to park them on a hill while my skilled pilot flanked forcing the enemy to make hard choices. The urbie positions were not just higher ground, they had forest cover and they did alright in this role. The last round of ammo was the last one needed.

  • @Thoxxxik
    @Thoxxxik 2 роки тому +2

    "The Ministry of Silly Mechs (MoSM) strongly endorsed the deployment of the Urbanmech" Minister Hurbie, ca. 3052

  • @ThuleHammer
    @ThuleHammer 2 роки тому +10

    Damn, listening to Kermit the frog at 2x speed is an experience lol. Can't say I agree on the take though. Fun video nonetheless!

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому +4

      It's such a bad mech, lol.

    • @TheGreatDayne1983
      @TheGreatDayne1983 2 роки тому +3

      @@BigRed40TECH
      Until your light Lance runs into a couple dozen of them

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому +1

      That can be said for any design. :\

    • @NeroLordofChaos
      @NeroLordofChaos 2 роки тому +1

      @@BigRed40TECH You say that and then some psychopath throws in an 140 XL engine, an UAC10 and 2 er medium lasers. And keeps the jumpjets.
      No one ever expects a 75kph jump jet capable trashcan with a desire to sate it's hunger for scrap metal.
      (It's me, I'm psychopath)
      I call it the Portable Mech Disposal Unit (aka: The Turbo Urbie)

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому +1

      @@NeroLordofChaos It's not really an Urbanmech anymore though.

  • @Zeeke01
    @Zeeke01 2 роки тому +1

    Wow savage, I was laughing though most of the video! Great job!

  • @peterhessedal8539
    @peterhessedal8539 2 роки тому +3

    Never made sense to have SL and not MGs to deal with infantry

  • @theapostatejack8648
    @theapostatejack8648 2 роки тому +9

    Darn, covid really did a number on your voice! 😂

  • @walterhaider869
    @walterhaider869 2 роки тому +2

    never heard "angry waste bin" before lol

  • @matthewneuendorf5763
    @matthewneuendorf5763 2 роки тому +2

    Perfect voice thematically for an Urbanmech video.

  • @pumpkinhead9114
    @pumpkinhead9114 2 роки тому +1

    Everyone: "you have to be the be worst mech I've ever heard of"
    Urbanmech: "But you have heard of me!"

  • @charlesquigley4383
    @charlesquigley4383 Рік тому +2

    Nothing more clearly shows how battletech is both a game and a fully realized universe.
    From a military budget and specialization perspective the urban mech makes perfect sense. Home guard units, militias...etc.
    In a game sense...your probably only ever gonna use it for the memes.

  • @joshblack2362
    @joshblack2362 2 роки тому +1

    Great upload! Keep the Mechwarrior/battletech videos going!

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому +1

      They will keep going. First video back after the Vid. Still a bit sick, it comes through in the video, it was hard to record, but we got it done. More to come. The Black Jack is next :)

    • @joshblack2362
      @joshblack2362 2 роки тому +1

      Very excited! Thank you for all you do!

  • @Slenkamure
    @Slenkamure 2 роки тому +2

    Urban Mech has a role and it excels at it's role. It handily mulches vehicles and light mechs from ambush. Can also serve as a reliable support for slow moving vehicles an example being a solid nope for light runner mechs to try and stomp on your Schrek PPC carrier

    • @kazekamiha
      @kazekamiha 2 роки тому

      Slap an AC/20 onto it.
      Nasty surprise for even an assault.

  • @mikhielthorsson6033
    @mikhielthorsson6033 2 роки тому +2

    As I try to find sleep in my sweltering apartment, (the AC died after office hours), I thought I wasn't going to like this video. As the walking trashcan can be devastating in the MW5 video game. Because of it's never ending ammo bin and it's unseemingly long range for the weapons it carries. But I'm glad you went the route that you did, and your impression of Kermit was pretty good.

  • @urbypilot2136
    @urbypilot2136 2 роки тому +2

    Urbie is LOVE! Urbie is LIFE!
    (I love the video! And released on my birthday is the cherry on top of the icing coated sundae!)

  • @sper1585
    @sper1585 Рік тому +2

    Very entertaining, thank you.

  • @AR-dq6be
    @AR-dq6be 2 роки тому +1

    Yay a return to greatness hope you continue to improve healing.

  • @malusignatius
    @malusignatius 2 роки тому +3

    "They filled me full of trash,
    So I filled them full of lead."

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому

      The irony being, that the Urbanmech is the trash.

    • @malusignatius
      @malusignatius 2 роки тому

      @@BigRed40TECH
      Eh, it does what it was designed to do, which is be a mobile gun for supporting militia troops.
      It can't do anything else mind, but then again, it's not supposed to.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому

      @@malusignatius I cover how in Urban warfare, it's still too slow imo. I've played against it multiple times, it's got just too many weaknesses imo to be a viable defender for the most part. Not saying I've not seen it perform miracles, but that's what they were, miracles.

    • @malusignatius
      @malusignatius 2 роки тому

      @@BigRed40TECH There's some holes in your argument though.
      If you assume the Urbie's going up against near-peer forces, yes, it's going to run into trouble. But it's almost as cheap as a lot of vehicles and has the perks of being a 'mech. So if you want to supress some rebels who at best have access to some up armoured trucks, and want to do so on a budget, the Urbie's the place to go. The AC-10's got (just) enough reach to out range whatever weapons they can shove on the back of their technicals and hits like a sledgehammer.
      It's a garrison 'mech, there to keep order as much as provide a defensive force. And sticking it in your garrisons allows you to keep your actually useful 'mechs out in the field instead of being wasted on keeping the plebs in line.

    • @malusignatius
      @malusignatius 2 роки тому

      (this also probably explains why the Caps are so mad-keen on them... :P )

  • @PopeMetallicus
    @PopeMetallicus 2 роки тому +3

    "One of the worst mechs in the history of BT" How dare you, Kermit?! Heresy, I tell ya!

  • @mathewkelly9968
    @mathewkelly9968 2 роки тому +4

    The glorious UrbanMech , my regular go to mech especially the ArrowIV version , the plasma is nice too

  • @Qardo
    @Qardo 2 роки тому +1

    I like the whole concept of the Ubranmech. Yes, it is slow. Yes, it looks like a mobile trashcan. Yet it is small and small enough to fit between city streets. To which it will take out the biggest mechs by kicking their knees out from under them. Can't shoot when you are face down on the ground.
    I personally view the Urberie as a Mech used for more civil service protection. A Mech used to put put fires, riot control, or light defense line force. I mean would you as a rioter throw a rock at a Mech with a cannon that could make you disappear? And said cannon is just a water cannon. Perfect for urban use. Even if some can do it better....but Urbie is cheap.

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish 2 роки тому +1

    UM-AIV also just bombed a bunch of the Kell Hounds and Wolves out of existence.

  • @toxic__8270
    @toxic__8270 2 роки тому +2

    YES MY ENGINE COMPLAINT HAS BEEN ADRESSED, WHY JUST ONE MORE TON, JUST ONE MORE IS ALL IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN TO INCREASE THE SPEED. THATS IT

  • @Draksyl
    @Draksyl 2 роки тому +2

    Stellar Kermit impression - even if accidental / caused by circumstance. Definitely added to the meme status of the Trashcan! 👍

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому

      My youtube members asked me to do it through our monthly goal tracker. We hit the monthly goal last month? Kermit had to narrate one video. Simple as. lol

  • @kmcd6140
    @kmcd6140 Рік тому

    A movie of the same era had a little trash bot that looks a lot like the urbie, but with a distinct (rather cute) face (and a tongue). The movie is called Ice Pirates. If you like campy sci-fi, it's worth a watch.
    On useability -- In HBS's Battletech, Urby R60 is on the list for randomized mechs when you opt-in or start a new Career. I got one as a starter, so I dropped the AC to an AC5, plus some armor and a couple of lasers. Jumps and fires every turn. It's like a little Vindicator. Seriously, it was one of my top mechs for quite a while. I was running with the more parts difficulty (only 5, but still) and it took a lucky Grasshopper drop to really make me consider shelving the little urby.

  • @IansMentalOmega
    @IansMentalOmega Рік тому +1

    The Urbanmech
    An Autoturret on legs, with a meat-assisted targeting system.

  • @CarltonWhitfield
    @CarltonWhitfield Рік тому

    this came up in my auto play and was listening buy not watching, and the Kermit the frog voice got me. well done

  • @phildicks4721
    @phildicks4721 2 роки тому +1

    You do know the Urbie is the larvae form of the Anhilliator.😂😂😂

  • @Se1fD3struct1on
    @Se1fD3struct1on 2 роки тому +2

    I dont understand how no Great House thought to take the UM-R60L, take the AC/20 and single heat sink out of it, and slap a gauss rifle on it, then it gets solid damage at amazing range.

    • @yoloman3607
      @yoloman3607 2 роки тому +3

      Because some random enemy would just charge in, and steal said gauss rifle then run away with it. The gauss rifle nearly costs as much as the urbanmech itself.

    • @BigRed40TECH
      @BigRed40TECH  2 роки тому

      They don't built Urbies to be expensive.

  • @ashaide
    @ashaide 2 роки тому +1

    Everybody laughing until that AC/10 lands a hit and suddenly you remember that, no matter the platform, it's still a bloody AC/10.
    Even better if you fail to recognize it's the Urbie variant with the AC/20.
    The Suburbie is really funny, though. When you except a brrt and what you get is a pop-and-sizzle and you realize this is an e-trashcan you're fighting.
    I keep a collection of these babies in every one of my HBS Battletech games. Like, I never sell ANY of the three variants. My meta is that my mercs occasionally have little games with the urbies :D

    • @kazekamiha
      @kazekamiha 2 роки тому

      When ever I get the HBS BT mission where I have to escort three rookies one of them *always* has an Urbie...
      And it's often the most useful of the lot. The AC/10 is no joke and a hell of a BIG gun for a light mech.

  • @imglidinhere
    @imglidinhere Рік тому +1

    The kermit voice had me giggling the entire video... xD

  • @tennoskoom2233
    @tennoskoom2233 Рік тому

    Whenever my squad plays MW5 together we always treat these with as much caution as hazardous waste bins, at least until we remove the cannon

  • @ashfsdfhsdfh
    @ashfsdfhsdfh Рік тому

    Last night I field tested a HBS Batteltech BEX lance that included a very cheap-to-drop Urbi refitted with nothing but LRMs and twelve turns of ammo. The enemy never saw it, but felt it every turn for those twelve turns. Even out of ammo, it provided me a throw-away mech on initiative, forcing at least one enemy to commit to movement before my actual scout then pinged them for the two heavies of the lance. Mobile enough to stay out of sight, an LRM turret that is adds punch with minimal drop cost.

  • @AWholeLegionary
    @AWholeLegionary 2 роки тому +1

    I strapped a Gauss rifle to the UM-60L, gonna be honest, I'm terrified of it now.

  • @jonathaneytchison6841
    @jonathaneytchison6841 Рік тому +3

    Love that you stayed as Kermit for the entire review haha

  • @tinfoilhat3268
    @tinfoilhat3268 Рік тому +1

    The little Kermit sipping tea in the corner had me dead

  • @seanbrennen3397
    @seanbrennen3397 2 роки тому +1

    Gonna sound really weird but in this video the narrator's cadence makes him sound like kermit the frog.

  • @sebastiang.5032
    @sebastiang.5032 2 роки тому +1

    Welcome back!