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Hello Dutch heroes! Mikkie, I’m getting a UT bushcrafter with a maple burl handle ( aquamarine! Ohh ahh!). I think you have the same wood on yours. Does the wood need to be oiled?
If I may, this knife is obviously based of of Horace Kephart's knife. And reading his work, he was adamantly against using a knife to chop or baton--he preferred carrying a small hatchet. Just interesting history for someone to check out more.
if you look at the KaBar Kephart knife by Ethan Becker, THAT is the closest copy to the real deal i've seen, beyond a few customs, from people that also were able to copy the exact original knife that Ethan owns. the handle in particular, is a key element. a finger guard/choil? not authentic. nor needed as an imrovement.
Any true survivalist will use a hatchet for wood processing. When we show Batoning its for social media enjoyment and testing heat treat its not ideal for wood processing! Most views do not understand knife making and testing . Verses reality !
@@MrCarlbrooks amen . I actually have few knives I designed and still working on kickstarter for the camp knife . I actually had it bevel like an ax to please everyone. I am no wealthy so been taking me awhile to get this going . And nervous about releasing the project but we will soon . I have a few axes and few machetes which i love machetes . Favorite is battoning with a pack ax
I have had a Norwegian Scout association knife for forty years, despite its lack of a guard, best knife I ever owned. Now I’m pretty sick, and my stepson has only asked for one thing to remember me by, that knife we took camping when he was a boy. From memory the brand is scandic and they make knives for the fishing industry. Great show guys. 👍🇬🇧
Canterbury has been doing things his way for a long time now. Really has a lot of things figured out. Definitely more on the hunting/trapping/self-reliance skills part of the bushcraft/fieldcraft spectrum than the collecting expensive knives end of the spectrum, but there is room for both. I am not a collector, but I appreciate the positive impact that they have on knife design, construction and materials. And I appreciate DBK bridging the gap, and relentlessly beating the crap out of every knife they can lay their goofy Dutch hands on.
When you order their knives from PKS, you do have the option of getting a good leather sheath with the knife, but it is a ~35USD extra. It is an interesting choice not to include one by default though. Some folks like custom sheathes for their knives, or a different type of sheath which may not be on offer. Generally the stuff PKS makes and/or sells tends to be really good and well tested items.
People like Condor sell most of their knives with top notch leather sheaths. Many times, the sheath is worth more than the knife itself and they don't charge for it. Why I support folks like Condor. Not the prettiest knives out of the box, not super steels. You may have to refine the factory edge and do a little sanding on some pins that weren't perfectly flushed.....but damn good workable blades all around. Expensive, super steels are fun and have things like amazing edge retention.....I have a few. But the older I get the more I just want to have a good beater on my side that won't break and I can easily sharpen in the field and if I somehow lose it, I'm not going to feel like my soul got ripped out of my body. I'll just get another.
For cost should come with cheap sheath then tell got leather one for 35 dollars. Help friend he into hand making knives. He sends canvas sheath with knife. He hand makes them leather I sometimes help with as got tools.
I just bought the shorter Kephart that they just released. It's a beauty and super functional in the woods. Love Kephart style blades. Love PKS. Super happy.
Hi guys good video .Im an old guy but I always carried a hatchet for my splitting, driving tent stakes etc. and kept my knife good and sharp for my cutting chores. I honestly didn't see batoning until the last few years.
I use a wood-fired backpacking stove that is small enough that batoning small branches with a knife makes more sense than using my trail axe. But I wouldn't ever baton a log as big as the one the lads tried to power through with a knife. I think that they are just pushing the knife to its limit, for the sake of comparison. If all they did was normal camp chores, most mid-range fieldcraft/bushcraft knives would be adequate, and we wouldn't know which was really tougher, or held its edge better.
That's probably a regional thing. We've been (ab)using our cheap Mora knives (they're fairly local to me) for everything. I probably have... nine, or ten Moraknivar of different types lying around the house, some I've had since the eighties. The classing wooden-handle Mora knife was used for literally everything from "bushcraft", carpentry, gutting fish, whittling... you name it. Gramps game me my first when I turned 10, the classing red wooden-handle Mora with the little finger guard, and taught me how to carve and split wood and how to sharpen it. They're easy to bring up to feather-stick sharpness with somewhat flat rocks, or a small pocket stone. Handling wood with whatever tool you happen to have has been a core skill taught in schools (regular schools here often bring kids out in the woods on summer PA), scouts, friluftslivkurser (bushcraft courses may be the closest translation, if limited) and the army. One of the reasons being that batoning is much more controlled and safer when you're teaching beginners to process wood for a campfire. Moving on to handling axes and hatchets later, partly because an injury with an axe tends to be a bit more severe. For me and the people I hang out with of the same generation, hearing that you shouldn't baton with your knife is almost baffling. But I guess none of us use very expensive knives. Personally, I got myself a hatchet just... nine years ago, and I agree that it's very useful. Before that, the kit was usually one or two knives (one larger and maybe a small pocket knife for detailed work) and either a saw or a proper axe for felling or chopping. I'm not meaning to discredit in any way, I am just having a moment of reflection. It's fun to get the perspective of others. :)
You guys should try the PKS Mountaineer model… comes with a superior leather sheath well made and the Mountaineer will surly impress you. That Kephart you put through the test is N O T supposed to have the capacity a Mountaineer would have. So to be fair… Dave C and his team are crafting some of the best I’ve seen in years.
It competes well with the Mora Garberg and Kansbol. I have also extensively used Knives of Alaska's Alpha wolf model. All in all they have good edge retention and durability. Worth the money because its made specifically for bushcraft. 90°Spine, balance, durable handle, and good blade thickness.
@@dillonberch243 The Knives of Alaska about 10 years ago was almost 300 USD with the Elk handle. Using and abusing that particular knife for almost a decade and having it still be a sharp retentive knife made it worth the price. Canterbury's knives are hand made, modeled blade types for specific jobs and historically 'correct'. Not a bad price all things considered. It depends what job you need the knife for and what you personally want out of a knife.
I loved the whiteboard behind Mikkie B that said have fun filming today with love. I like watching DBK videos each week. I long ago decided to watch regardless of the topic or what all was covered. It's just the friendship, entertainment and humanity that knives are in it is just the gravy on my mashed potatos. I don't know Marrten and Mikkie B, but I have a sense that they are good men and are passionate about life and being active. It's pretty authentic.
He does all his knives in 1095, which is fine - its not the worst steel, easy to sharpen in the field and reliable....maybe 80crv2 would be a tad better. Kephart's are usually convex or flat rather than scandi, the design is obviously 100 years old by now and is more geared towards camp chores and hunting / skinning than bushcraft - making it scandi is a neat touch to steer it there....... that scandi edge will always chip smashing into bone though. But no sheath!? WTF
You're absolutely right about 80crv2. I own a Terava Jakkaripuuko 110 in 80crv2 and it is hands down better than 1095 to me. Also it is easy to manage in the field.
Your content popped up in my UA-cams one day, probably because I watch a lot of 4 wheeling and camping content. Certainly not because I have any interest in knives. I took a chance cause the cover image looked amusing, and keep coming back for more. I still have no interest in knives, but you guys are just so bloody entertaining that I will keep coming back. Keep up the good work lads and keep living the dream!
I have one of those. It's badass. Best to buy one WITH the sheath. It's called "dirty by design" for a reason- you don't have to worry about nicking it up. It comes pre-blemished. Makes it so you're not afraid to put it through its paces. It's a tool, not a beauty queen that is reluctant to come out of its sheath. It's based on the principle that it will deliver, blemishes and all.
Interesting video. Probably not a knife for me, but one thing I did like was the lack of a sheath. As a person with a paralysed right arm, I have a pile of redundant right hand sheaths. No coming with a sheath let’s me choose the one I want.
Bro the man is disabled. He ain't gonna go through that shit.... But anyway as someone who makes knives and sheaths as a hobby unless I need them i won't make them cause all of them are custom.
@@Rezornch_and_Dvelenktronx I'm a rebel I remove mattress tags every chance I get. I keep looking for my wanted poster at the post office. One day I'll get caught, have to shoot it out with the mattress police, then go on the lam.
Mikki's band 'Wodanboys' really sounds like somewhere between 'The Undertones', 'The Strokes' and 'The Libertines'. Very impressive. Great knife review as usual 🥳
I find the Easter Egg and subtle reference to the Dave Canterbury controversy with the thumbnail and opening lines hilarious. Kudos to DBK for using that as click-bait marketing tactic. Sure, it's a tactic I despise and in poor taste, but clearly it works. The zero scandi grind is not conducive to batoning or chopping, and it is also a factor (plus its 60 hardness) in why the knife chipped on the bone test. I think if the same knife had a mid to high saber grind, it would have done better in batoning, chopping, and not chipping. Everyone is knocking the fact that you have the option not to order a sheath with the knife. If DBK wanted a sheath, that was clearly their mistake in not ordering one. Personally, I think having that option is better for people who might want to scrap the leather and go straight to a custom kydex option. On the Dave Canterbury controversy, his military career is legitimate. The way he portrayed it to producers of Dual Survivor was exaggerated. It is quite ironic and hypocritical that the producers of a reality tv show would be upset about his exaggeration, despite the deception and scripting that they do on their show. In my opinion, it's likely that the producers just wanted an excuse for getting rid of Canterbury probably due to other issues, and perhaps they were so pissed they wanted to ruin his career by bringing his legitimacy and integrity into question. On the one hand, Canterbury is a mediocre survivalist. In my opinion, he is the Reader's Digest or Popular Science of George Washington Sears, Horace Kephart, and Mors Kochanski - and he himself would admit that those guys were Titans compared to him. The only novel concept that I think Canterbury has added to bushcraft is standardizing the "10 C's of Survival" - which is in itself a marketing tactic. It is quite likely that he just grew up camping and being in the outdoors like most people, and as UA-cam started gaining steam as a platform in 2007, he decided to turn a hobby into a business by posting UA-cam videos. Then, he slowly started to refine his methodology, principles, and skill set over time since then. On the other hand, Canterbury is a pretty good business man and marketer. He has been able to establish and run four businesses, i.e. Self-Reliance Outfitters, the Pathfinder Knife Shop, the Pathfinder School of Survival Training, and his UA-cam channel, as well as write several books, despite his firing from Dual Survivor. From what I know, he runs those businesses with his father and his brother. I also think that the way he managed to approach manufacturing companies to build a range of products to his specs (whether they are his own custom designs, modern renditions, or white-labeled products) and to streamline those processes is praiseworthy. Having bought a few of his products, I can say that they're pretty good quality, too, and they occupy a particular niche in the outdoors, camping, and bushcraft market - mid-quality, mid-priced, high durability, and with a traditional aesthetic - in his words, products for the "common man." I don't expect his knives to be as nice or performant as, say Bark River Knives, given his knives' price point and finishing. And, while the QC may not be great due to the variation in 5 RC in hardness, that is likely because they may be sourcing their steel from different suppliers. I highly doubt his shop has the ability to harden the knives. One batch may have a hardness of 55-57, while another has a variation of 57-59, while another has a variation of 58-60. Regardless of that, he still guarantees his knives with lifetime warranty. I imagine the inflated price is due to Canterbury bringing the PKS shop in house instead of them being white-labelled products produced by another knife manufacturer, and he is probably still ironing out the kinks in the manufacturing process to bring the costs down. The fact that his knife got the stamp of approval from DBK says something about what Canterbury is good at.
For the record. He locally sources people to make this stuff. The sheaths are made by a local company. I have found that some of the knives he has sold in the past, were also sold in local gun shows, in michigan by local vendors. If Dave is selling the Buffalo skinner, and the mini version. Those knives are really good at processing animals.
I appreciate an honest review from you guys. I've actually had my eye on that knife for a while. It does suck that it's so hard it chips. But I mainly want it because it's a kephart design
Most WC Knives don’t come w/ a sheath and are generally $325+…. LT Wright knives also have a sheath/no sheath option and are 150+…. With my PKS 3/16 French Trade style survival knife I opted for no sheath because if I’m paying that much already I would rather spend a bit more for a custom sheath that’s going to be exactly what I want. Hence a Mountain Man custom leather for the PKS from some cat on Etsy. And… scandi grinds are easy to sharpen in the field and maintain a decent edge. Entertaining vid tho. You asked about who’s knife you would like to review what about a William Collins knife, the Fieldlore! It’s his newest model and is bad to the bone. Entertaining vid, y’all.
I have had a PKS Mountaineer Knife for over a year and it is one of my favorites! And yes, you can order an optional leather sheath, I got a custom kydex sheath to replace the leather sheath for its primary carry method.
Legendary fraud?? I have lived the Bush craft lifestyle for more than 30 years and my knowledge has grown extensively in that time and a lot of that knowledge has come from David Canterbury, the man has probably forgotten more than you will ever learn. Spend a year in his shoes before you think you have the right to put him down
@@alx252 when you start your career off lying why wouldn't you continue. look at how these guys eat it up. They will defend Canterbury like they're his wife.
I have had the pks mountain lion for 2-3 years and love it.dont think they make this specific knife anymore but it has never failed me. As for sheath i got a basic one off their site which is a very good sheath but plan on making my own custom one
Helle knives are awesome but strictly slicers only. I wouldn't treat those blades like this channel typically treats knives...as axes, lol. My preference these days is to always have my axe on me along with a knife so my knife doesn't have to be this heavy, thick, monster of a blade. (Although I see the benefits to such blades if you're limited on space and weight in which case I'll just go stupid big like an ESEE Junglas to be able to span sizeable rounds of wood. Pair it with a Silky saw) Les was always the most sensible survival guy and one of my favorites to watch. Keep in mind he developed that knife with Helle but also developed the Wetterlings "Bushman's Axe" which I have. (Cool axe and a workhorse for its size but I have a few gripes with it, prefer my Gransfors Bruks) So he too has the axe+knife philosophy which is the best setup for Northern woodlands.
@@pennsyltuckyreb9800 My Helle Nord has handled everything that I have thrown at it, so far. I think Helle wanted to step it up and have a big, rugged belt knife. It isn't exactly a bushcraft knife, but if you were out for a multi-day trek in the north woods in Winter, it is the kind of knife that you would want on your belt, in case you got separated from your pack/axe/saw. I completely agree about the silky, but I like the Wetterlings Les Stroud axe better than the Gransfors Bruks - the straighter handle seems more precise, and safer, out on the trail. I recently picked up a Council Tools carving axe with a completely straight handle, and that is now my main trail axe. At the end of the day, on the trail, when one is starting to get cold and tired, it makes sense to me to have an axe that can be swung cleanly, like a hammer, or a tomahawk. That might just be personal preference, though, and the gransfors bruks blade is amazing.
@@bjenns_skog I don't like the round eye on the Wetterlings. There has always been an issue of the Wetterlings Bushman head coming loose (always at the worst time) and mine did the same. I have to try and field rehang which hopefully works otherwise I'll have to do a full, at home rehang, might need a new handle and wedge, etc. Very annoying. Round eyes are great for tomahawks and the like, not top wedged axe heads, just my opinion. The head is a great splitter but the edge way too thick for other tasks at times. But that's a personal preference thing. I think it would have been a way better axe if it didn't have that round eye. You did give me an idea to try and turn it into a slip fit axe like a tomahawk though....hmmmmm...
You guys should test the Columbia Knives Defiant and see how it performs. The Defiant was designed by famed knife maker Abe Elias as a bushcraft knife. It is made from 154cm with a 3/16" back spine at it's thickest points. The demonstration videos are very impressive!
This is not the model he sells for do everything including batoning. That one is the mountaineer. I wouldn't pay that much for 1095 either it's almost as bad as paying the same to survival Lenny for aus8.
When you buy an Esee at least you get a really well ground knife with an excellent sheath (no matter which material you get) and a one of a kind no questions asked replacement warranty. This, you just got a knife with a scandi (yuck) grind.
I've had a PKS Scorpion for a few years. Got it for like $106 and it came with a nice quality leather sheath. It's been a great knife for a reasonable price. I honestly have nothing bad to say about the PKS stuff I've used except that I wish they weren't all scandi ground. Otherwise they seem like nice knives for the price.
Yeah seems in future they could do like three variations like scandi,saber grind,or hollow grind,I'm hoping I got those right, would flat grind be a good one
While ordering knives for the store I work for I saw the pks line. I thought about ordering them but with no sheath the chance of them selling is slim. Pks does offer sheaths separately but at 50 dollars wholesale they're not worth it.
I bought a knife from Dave Canterbury at blade show an met him an corpral kelly both at blade show in Atlanta Georgia this year I got corpral kelly camp an trail knife corpral edition, man I love it,I'm not gonna test mine as hard as you Dutch boys,but I will say this as sharpness,yes indeed almost cut myself doing the hair shaving test,I sent mine to Doug Wilson for a sheath to be made for a badass knife, I love the curly maple handle, I also have my skrama to do all the hard stuff,for food prep an skinning I'm saving for my pks knive,it's worth every penny in my book
Heh, you said it all right at the beginning. $160. It is the biggest problem with all "name brand bushcraft" gear. They can be great stuff, but way over priced. The "perfect" is the enemy of good enough.
It sucks, because of the demand is so great for the knives that they jack the price so high on them. About 2 years ago they were going for about 50 t0 60 bucks.
@@gwpattrick That and a lot of marketing buzzwords like "skandi grind" and such. In the first case it was previously known as "how you sharpen a knife with a good working edge". I do understand the economics of it, a custom short run of better than average (or even great) steel blades or any other product is expensive.
Everything costs more now. Western countries keep expanding the money supply, making each unit of currency less valuable/have less purchasing power. The more money that nations put into circulation, the less it is worth. It is an indirect tax, eroding our savings, and driving up prices. Dave isn't gouging us, our leaders are. Massive spending bills are great places to pack in all sorts of handouts to political allies and special interests. The politicians buy influence, and we get to pay for the debt, in addition to our knives costing a lot of money. Time to buy fewer knives, and use the traditional skills more.
Thanks Lads, Great Vid, If I HAD to waste $160 on a PKS I'd go with the Corporal's "Shawn Kelly" Corner 🔪 Edition. Scales, Shape are more ergonomic than this one. For Canterbury ALWAYS preaching "PRICED FOR EVERYDAY MAN" Crap, PKS & SRO Quality and prices Especially with NO SHEATH are Rediculasly Over priced. No Thanks, I'll stick with my Mora's Who've Never let me down. 🔪🇺🇸🤘🏻☘️
$160 , 1095 , & no sheath . Not to mention 5 points on the Rockwell scale is enormous , no thanks . Those that do buy , I hope they like & have good luck with them but if I’m gonna buy 1095 it will be an Esee or a Tops (with a sheath) !
I have both, I like the Kephart better then the Corporals. It's a shame these knives used to be only 50ish dollars about 2 years ago. Now with demand they jack the price way up. Although it used to be sold out in a 1/2 day now they are starting to stay on the websites longer. Maybe the knives will start dropping in price soon.
When batoning, after the knife blade enters the wood, and the knife tip is protruding, flip it all over so the log being split is up and the spine of the blade (tip section protruding) is on the supporting base. Beat the wood down over the blade. Much more effective.
Seems like a pretty okay knife/ design, but I completely agree, the fact it doesn't come with a sheath is scam-ish especially at the price and materials it's made of. There are knives out there offering similar materials that cost less to produce that do come with a pretty decent leather sheath. I don't know the economics behind the production of this knife because obviously volume of knives produced come into play with pricing and turning a profit, which you need in order to produce higher volumes of knives, thus bringing the price down a little eventually, but sell it with a cheap canvas sheath at least... and by god, get that heat treat down to a more exact and consistent QC so you can get the most out of the 1095hc steel. Overall, the design and aesthetic of the knife is very well done and quite attractive.
I noticed the edge that chipped on the bone seemed harder than the blade, which flexed on that nasty log lol. It might be a stretch to think the range is on purpose though?
The shot of Mikki walking with the cardboard sleeve and knife in his waistband made me laugh so hard. I’ve had a few knives that I’ve used while a sheath was being made and carried it around with the dumb safety sleeve lol.
Well not really because we always use wood that is in the same ballpark so we have a rough estimate of how good the knives split. Next week you’ll see a knife split a piece of wood that this knife couldn’t.. and with ease.. cheers mate!!!
Had a ML kephart knife that was similar to this Canterbury years ago but it came with a sheath. Something about the length of the blade to the handle kept me from loving it so it moved on. Not bad but $170 is steep for 1095. Nice review
I would definitely buy one if they were available in the UK. I have only tried to buy knives directly from the USA twice and on both occasions they were stopped at US customs as restricted items illegal to export to the UK. What a massive waste of time that was getting refunds.
His original knife, made by Blind Horse Knives, known as the PLSK1, was so much better in quality and durability. It also came with a sheath; a damn good sheath. Not a big fan of anyone who's more into bullshit than substance; but hey, it works for him. If you can find one of his old Pathfinder Scout knives, that would be a great review. Probably the best knife he ever had that he promoted......(yes, it came with a sheath). What kind of jackass would sell a knife without a sheath?
the plsk1 was a great knife but i wasn't a fan of how thick it was which kinda affected the geometry of the scandi grind. The pathfinder scout was my dream knife for a while and i can't believe he stopped that design. The butcher knife thing was cool and i still mess around with the old hickory he always promoted but in the end the old school blind horse days were definitely the glory days
@@nikosfilipino Battle Horse Knives, as far as I know, still make those two knives, the PLSK1 and the Scout; they just have different names since they are no longer affiliated with Dave. You'll have to check their website.
I have collected knives for decades, i wont say how long or how many, lets just say i have probably spent more then i should and i could never need or use as many as i have lol. Now the truth of it. For those here looking to learn, seaching for the absolute best knife for them, and most functional over the longest period of time. Im going to save you a ton of searching and buying, a simple knife is always best, solid tang, made of great steel, a guard to protect your hand if it slips, and a handle that fits your hand, thats it. The absence of moving parts, reseach the steel that holds an edge and doesnt chip , solid construction and hand protection. For me i like a blade i edc, but doesnt look like a sword and doesnt stand out. My edc is one i had made for me, every material used was choosen by me, the design, all by what is best for me, that i feel secure can be used in the most situations, and is comfortable in weight, in my hand, and on my person. Others may need a folding knife, depending where you live, to stay inside the laws in that area, and avoid attention. I still advise simple, but to each their own, just remember, each part, is something that can fail. I own many beautiful knives, many collectors peices, and many that i just had to have lol. This advice isnt for a collector, collectors are different beasts and we just collect lol. This advice for for the person looking for the right one, the one they feel can be used and carried for the most effective tool in just about any situation, although i always suggest having two, the main, and the back up, every situation can turn into a survival situation.
David Canterbury is a legend amongst men. Nothing but the upmost respect for that man and everything he teaches. Wish I could make it to the Pathfinders school one day
Dave is a person who is endless in self promotion. That said, a lot of his stuff is really pricey. You can use military surplus or Stanley cookware to do the same thing for a lot less
Not a knife I would ever buy as I can't in good faith but any product with Dave's name attached to it... Given how he lied about and embellished his military experience in order to get on the show to begin with. The guy has skills. Just no integrity
@DTL the skills he is teaching can be learned elsewhere, as there are many good survival schools out there. Him and Cody both, while admittedly very skilled, are 2 people i.would not spend my money with just based on what I've seen of their professional lives surrounding the Dual Survival show. But, I'd rather Dave or Cody in the woods with me in a survival situation that that nutter Bear Grylls... Talk about stollen valor, he talks about the SAS like he is a 20 year veteran... When in reality it was his over inflated ego that got him injured on a training jump. Dude never deployed. He's no better than those years that "almost served"
Dave Canterbury's military career is legitimate. The way he portrayed it to producers of Dual Survivor was exaggerated. It is quite ironic and hypocritical that the producers of a reality tv show would be upset about his exaggeration, despite the deception and scripting that they do on their show. In my opinion, it's likely that the producers just wanted an excuse for getting rid of Canterbury probably due to other issues. On the one hand, Canterbury is a mediocre survivalist. In my opinion, he is the Reader's Digest or Popular Science of George Washington Sears, Horace Kephart, and Mors Kochanski - and he himself would admit that those guys were Titans compared to him. The only novel concept that I think Canterbury has added to bushcraft is standardizing the "10 C's of Survival" - which is in itself a marketing tactic. It is quite likely that he just grew up camping and being in the outdoors like most people, and as UA-cam started gaining steam as a platform in 2007, he decided to turn a hobby into a business by posting UA-cam videos. Then, he slowly started to refine his methodology, principles, and skill set over time since then. On the other hand, Canterbury is a pretty good business man and marketer. He has been able to establish and run four businesses, i.e. Self-Reliance Outfitters, the Pathfinder Knife Shop, the Pathfinder School of Survival Training, and his UA-cam channel, as well as write several books, despite his firing from Dual Survivor. From what I know, he runs those businesses with his father and his brother. I also think that the way he managed to approach manufacturing companies to build a range of products to his specs (whether they are his own custom designs, modern renditions, or white-labeled products) and to streamline those processes is praiseworthy. Having bought a few of his products, I can say that they're pretty good quality, too, and they occupy a particular niche in the outdoors, camping, and bushcraft market - mid-quality, mid-priced, high durability, and with a traditional aesthetic - in his words, products for the "common man." I don't expect his knives to be as nice or performant as, say Bark River Knives, given his knives' price point and finishing. And, while the QC may not be great due to the variation in 5 RC in hardness, that is likely because they may be sourcing it from different suppliers. One may have a guarantee of 55-57, while another has a guarantee of 57-59, while another has a variation of 58-60. Regardless of that, he still guarantees his knives with lifetime warranty. The fact that his knife got the stamp of approval from DBK says something about what Canterbury is good at. Kudos to DBK for making subtle reference to the Dave Canterbury controversy with the thumbnail.
Most knives with a freshly ground scandi from factory like that are going to chip/roll to some deg with sharp impact on bone with. Hit canted too, looked like. Keep on keeping on brothers : ) Canterbury is pretty stand up guy, have one of his & hults bruk axes and love it.
Really? Nobody? Im disappointed, anyway where do I send all my info, I dont have a Telegram, also I'm sorry your parents are dead, you have no family, your starving, and are living in a moldy box in... probably Lagos?
I guess you have to respect Canterbury's decision to simply leave out the sheath. Too many knives come with sheaths that are just cheap garbage thrown in so the box can say, "Includes a premium sheath!" Canterbury's decision says that rather than throwing in a $0.50 piece of crap for propaganda purposes and forcing the buyer to find an aftermarket sheath anyway, he's just going to skip the propaganda and let the buyer go straight to finding the aftermarket sheath. On another note, the DBK boys' mustaches are getting pretty close 1970s porn star territory. Maybe when their girlfriends lay down the law - shave or else - they'll do a vid where they have to pick their favorite knife to shave with. And let the girls do the shaving.
160.00 for a wood handled 1095 blade with no sheath is high, especially when companies like tops and Esee can produce 1095blades with micarta scales and throw in a kydex sheath for less money, not to mention Esee has a no questions asked warranty. As for respecting Dave and PKS we should all respect the cultist following he has created. I mean think about it guys that blindly buy all his China made gear (I know the knife is made in USA) without a thought just because it’s got his name on it are more cult than wise. But the lack of even a 10.00 sheath really says something. Even Ontario sends their knives out with a cheap China sheath.
@@richardvisneski506 Everyone is knocking the fact that you have the option not to order a sheath with the knife. If DBK wanted a sheath, that was clearly their mistake in not ordering one. Personally, I think having that option is better for people who might want to scrap the leather and go straight to a custom kydex option. The thing is that Dave Canterbury is going to source a sheath that is made from the USA, which means the sheath itself is also pricey compared to sheaths made outside of the USA due to the high cost of USA labor. Having bought a few of his products, I can say that they're pretty good quality, too, and they occupy a particular niche in the outdoors, camping, and bushcraft market - mid-quality, mid-priced, high durability, and with a traditional aesthetic - in his words, products for the "common man." I don't expect his knives to be as nice or performant as, say Bark River Knives, given his knives' price point and finishing. And, while the QC may not be great due to the variation in 5 RC in hardness, that is likely because they may be sourcing it from different suppliers. One may have a guarantee of 55-57, while another has a guarantee of 57-59, while another has a variation of 58-60. Regardless of that, his knives also come with a no questions asked lifetime warranty. Sure, lots of other knife companies make similar quality knives for cheaper, but none make them with this aesthetic or with this design pattern. PKS is able to fill a particular void in the market, and Canterbury understands that. The problem is that his knife shop is not scaled up to keep up with the demand - which, to be honest, not many USA made knife shops can - which is also why his knives cost more than they should.
For you to suggest that Dave Canterbury would run a scam or offer a knife that he created as a scam is a poor way to title a video as click bait. Dave Canterbury is an upstanding, reputable, trusted, skilled, serious professional in all he does. I find your video title as insulting to his character. Test his knife and keep your character insults to yourself.
People can say what they want . There is lots of here say about Dave first off he claims he has usa products there not and that knife looks like the condor brand which is not usa . Again here say if these guys have feeling and facts about Someone they have every right to speak there mind . Never be afraid to say something .
I find the Easter Egg and subtle reference to the Dave Canterbury controversy with the thumbnail and opening lines hilarious. Kudos to DBK for using that as click-bait marketing tactic. Sure, it's a tactic I despise and in poor taste, but clearly it works. Despite it, though, DBK did give a stamp approval to the knife.
In his defense he did a video on his knives and its called did you want one did you add it to the cart for he wanted to keep costs down and some peoples dont want it
You should review the Tops EJ Snyder knife - he uses that knife in multiple TV shows, including dual survival and naked and afraid. Be interested to see how it holds up! You guys are the best!
That bone test is for real. As a hunter who cuts meat away from bone ( I don't eat bone so why carry it )....it doesn't take many times of getting into the bone until the blade is dulled.
In Germany the Sacki 3.0 knife is quite famous in the outdoor section, designed and forged in cooperation with a blacksmith, should be very resistant and reliable. Sacki is a well known outdoorer with plenty of experience. Can this knife convince you?
Wander Tactical has some awesome knives. Hes an italian wilderness survival expert, knife maker, and wilderness photographer. Met him before, cool guy.
Make a test about the Wanger WOC II Plus. The amount of knife you get for just 70€ is simply mind-boggling: - 5mm 9CR18MOV V-flat, bevel going all the way up, very sharp(!), it LOVES to cut - Different Micarta Designs (green is pure para military art) - secret storage INSIDE THE KNIFE for a firesteel and some birch or different stuff - very sturdy and tough Kydex sheat with TekLok All that. For just 70€.
Have you guys done the POS Bear Grylls knife sold at Walmart in the states? You probably have, I will go check your vids! Love the content. Thanks for the review!
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Ron Hood Tops Grim Ripper. I did things that probably should have bent the bottleneck between the handle and blade but didn't.
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Never seen you guys test a straight blade like a Seax or Tanto shaped blade, do they suck?
Hello Dutch heroes! Mikkie, I’m getting a UT bushcrafter with a maple burl handle ( aquamarine! Ohh ahh!). I think you have the same wood on yours. Does the wood need to be oiled?
If I may, this knife is obviously based of of Horace Kephart's knife. And reading his work, he was adamantly against using a knife to chop or baton--he preferred carrying a small hatchet. Just interesting history for someone to check out more.
if you look at the KaBar Kephart knife by Ethan Becker, THAT is the closest copy to the real deal i've seen, beyond a few customs, from people that also were able to copy the exact original knife that Ethan owns.
the handle in particular, is a key element. a finger guard/choil? not authentic. nor needed as an imrovement.
Yup
Any true survivalist will use a hatchet for wood processing. When we show Batoning its for social media enjoyment and testing heat treat its not ideal for wood processing! Most views do not understand knife making and testing . Verses reality !
Probably why they call it a Kephart.
@@MrCarlbrooks amen . I actually have few knives I designed and still working on kickstarter for the camp knife . I actually had it bevel like an ax to please everyone. I am no wealthy so been taking me awhile to get this going . And nervous about releasing the project but we will soon . I have a few axes and few machetes which i love machetes . Favorite is battoning with a pack ax
I have had a Norwegian Scout association knife for forty years, despite its lack of a guard, best knife I ever owned. Now I’m pretty sick, and my stepson has only asked for one thing to remember me by, that knife we took camping when he was a boy. From memory the brand is scandic and they make knives for the fishing industry. Great show guys. 👍🇬🇧
Praying for you man
Canterbury has been doing things his way for a long time now. Really has a lot of things figured out. Definitely more on the hunting/trapping/self-reliance skills part of the bushcraft/fieldcraft spectrum than the collecting expensive knives end of the spectrum, but there is room for both. I am not a collector, but I appreciate the positive impact that they have on knife design, construction and materials. And I appreciate DBK bridging the gap, and relentlessly beating the crap out of every knife they can lay their goofy Dutch hands on.
When you order their knives from PKS, you do have the option of getting a good leather sheath with the knife, but it is a ~35USD extra. It is an interesting choice not to include one by default though. Some folks like custom sheathes for their knives, or a different type of sheath which may not be on offer. Generally the stuff PKS makes and/or sells tends to be really good and well tested items.
That's good to know, thanks!
People like Condor sell most of their knives with top notch leather sheaths. Many times, the sheath is worth more than the knife itself and they don't charge for it.
Why I support folks like Condor. Not the prettiest knives out of the box, not super steels. You may have to refine the factory edge and do a little sanding on some pins that weren't perfectly flushed.....but damn good workable blades all around.
Expensive, super steels are fun and have things like amazing edge retention.....I have a few. But the older I get the more I just want to have a good beater on my side that won't break and I can easily sharpen in the field and if I somehow lose it, I'm not going to feel like my soul got ripped out of my body. I'll just get another.
I was wondering if the expected you to make one.
yes i like the unintentional ad. actually i don't
For cost should come with cheap sheath then tell got leather one for 35 dollars. Help friend he into hand making knives. He sends canvas sheath with knife. He hand makes them leather I sometimes help with as got tools.
I just bought the shorter Kephart that they just released. It's a beauty and super functional in the woods. Love Kephart style blades. Love PKS. Super happy.
Ed Stafford has a knife - the guy who walked along the Amazon river. It's made by a small knife maker in the UK called Ben Orford
habe you had the chance to test one? I think there are two Ed Stafford knives available, I am intrigued by the smaller one
Jamie Oliver also has a knife... 😁
I have 2 Orford knives. Some of my favorites and I have a large collection of custom knives
Ben I is A Legend, Blows PKS out of this Equation. 🔪🇺🇸🤘🏻☘️
Ben's wife makes sheaths too !
Hi guys good video .Im an old guy but I always carried a hatchet for my splitting, driving tent stakes etc. and kept my knife good and sharp for my cutting chores. I honestly didn't see batoning until the last few years.
I use a wood-fired backpacking stove that is small enough that batoning small branches with a knife makes more sense than using my trail axe. But I wouldn't ever baton a log as big as the one the lads tried to power through with a knife. I think that they are just pushing the knife to its limit, for the sake of comparison. If all they did was normal camp chores, most mid-range fieldcraft/bushcraft knives would be adequate, and we wouldn't know which was really tougher, or held its edge better.
That's probably a regional thing.
We've been (ab)using our cheap Mora knives (they're fairly local to me) for everything. I probably have... nine, or ten Moraknivar of different types lying around the house, some I've had since the eighties. The classing wooden-handle Mora knife was used for literally everything from "bushcraft", carpentry, gutting fish, whittling... you name it. Gramps game me my first when I turned 10, the classing red wooden-handle Mora with the little finger guard, and taught me how to carve and split wood and how to sharpen it.
They're easy to bring up to feather-stick sharpness with somewhat flat rocks, or a small pocket stone. Handling wood with whatever tool you happen to have has been a core skill taught in schools (regular schools here often bring kids out in the woods on summer PA), scouts, friluftslivkurser (bushcraft courses may be the closest translation, if limited) and the army. One of the reasons being that batoning is much more controlled and safer when you're teaching beginners to process wood for a campfire. Moving on to handling axes and hatchets later, partly because an injury with an axe tends to be a bit more severe.
For me and the people I hang out with of the same generation, hearing that you shouldn't baton with your knife is almost baffling. But I guess none of us use very expensive knives. Personally, I got myself a hatchet just... nine years ago, and I agree that it's very useful. Before that, the kit was usually one or two knives (one larger and maybe a small pocket knife for detailed work) and either a saw or a proper axe for felling or chopping.
I'm not meaning to discredit in any way, I am just having a moment of reflection. It's fun to get the perspective of others. :)
You guys should try the PKS Mountaineer model… comes with a superior leather sheath well made and the Mountaineer will surly impress you. That Kephart you put through the test is N O T supposed to have the capacity a Mountaineer would have.
So to be fair… Dave C and his team are crafting some of the best I’ve seen in years.
Nice try Dave. This is Dave's spy account. Dave you said you weren't gonna do this anymore when sales picked back up.
It competes well with the Mora Garberg and Kansbol. I have also extensively used Knives of Alaska's Alpha wolf model. All in all they have good edge retention and durability. Worth the money because its made specifically for bushcraft. 90°Spine, balance, durable handle, and good blade thickness.
at double the price haha
@@dillonberch243 The Knives of Alaska about 10 years ago was almost 300 USD with the Elk handle. Using and abusing that particular knife for almost a decade and having it still be a sharp retentive knife made it worth the price. Canterbury's knives are hand made, modeled blade types for specific jobs and historically 'correct'. Not a bad price all things considered. It depends what job you need the knife for and what you personally want out of a knife.
I loved the whiteboard behind Mikkie B that said have fun filming today with love. I like watching DBK videos each week. I long ago decided to watch regardless of the topic or what all was covered. It's just the friendship, entertainment and humanity that knives are in it is just the gravy on my mashed potatos. I don't know Marrten and Mikkie B, but I have a sense that they are good men and are passionate about life and being active. It's pretty authentic.
I’ve noticed that the best people are the ones that don’t take themselves too seriously.
He does all his knives in 1095, which is fine - its not the worst steel, easy to sharpen in the field and reliable....maybe 80crv2 would be a tad better.
Kephart's are usually convex or flat rather than scandi, the design is obviously 100 years old by now and is more geared towards camp chores and hunting / skinning than bushcraft - making it scandi is a neat touch to steer it there....... that scandi edge will always chip smashing into bone though.
But no sheath!? WTF
You're absolutely right about 80crv2. I own a Terava Jakkaripuuko 110 in 80crv2 and it is hands down better than 1095 to me. Also it is easy to manage in the field.
Yah! I didn't think it was a shame when it chipped on bone.
I bought a sheath for my kephart, for 30 extra. Tell ya, dam nice sheath.
Dave is the kind of guy who would sneer at someone trying to cut through bone with a knife so it makes sense that he didn't intend it for that use
I have the PKS Scorpion and have loved it for years. It has never let me down.
I am a Dave fan and a DBK fan as well as a hobbyist bladesmith. I am glad to see the knife wasn’t trash haha. Great video! Too bad about no sheath. 😜
Maybe it's a learning experience ... Dave wants us to make our own sheath from a wild critter or wood bark ?
I looked at your channel and hoped to find a video of you forging a blade, result as you know 😒
I have this exact same knife and it came with a friction fit leather sheath.
Your content popped up in my UA-cams one day, probably because I watch a lot of 4 wheeling and camping content. Certainly not because I have any interest in knives. I took a chance cause the cover image looked amusing, and keep coming back for more. I still have no interest in knives, but you guys are just so bloody entertaining that I will keep coming back. Keep up the good work lads and keep living the dream!
Same here, was watching some campervan contents and boom, i got here
Dave is a beast. Been through a few of his survival courses. Can't recommend his Pathfinder Survival School enough
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@@mikebuvoltzbushcraftandmar6384 This man is also a beast^
I have one of those. It's badass. Best to buy one WITH the sheath. It's called "dirty by design" for a reason- you don't have to worry about nicking it up. It comes pre-blemished. Makes it so you're not afraid to put it through its paces. It's a tool, not a beauty queen that is reluctant to come out of its sheath. It's based on the principle that it will deliver, blemishes and all.
Interesting video. Probably not a knife for me, but one thing I did like was the lack of a sheath. As a person with a paralysed right arm, I have a pile of redundant right hand sheaths. No coming with a sheath let’s me choose the one I want.
You can wear a right hand sheath on your left side. You just reverse your wrist so you can open the snap and draw the knife.
Ha. You can always chose any sheath you want EVEN IF IT COMES WITH ONE…
…but NEVER remove the manufacturer’s tag from a mattress…
Bro the man is disabled. He ain't gonna go through that shit.... But anyway as someone who makes knives and sheaths as a hobby unless I need them i won't make them cause all of them are custom.
Mine came with a box and no knife so I can chose whatever knife I like! Cool!
@@Rezornch_and_Dvelenktronx I'm a rebel I remove mattress tags every chance I get. I keep looking for my wanted poster at the post office. One day I'll get caught, have to shoot it out with the mattress police, then go on the lam.
Sheath option was available while ordering. A lot of folks make their own. I do. That way I design what is convenient to me.
Mikki's band 'Wodanboys' really sounds like somewhere between 'The Undertones', 'The Strokes' and 'The Libertines'. Very impressive. Great knife review as usual 🥳
Yah! And the song has the same name as me!!!
I find the Easter Egg and subtle reference to the Dave Canterbury controversy with the thumbnail and opening lines hilarious. Kudos to DBK for using that as click-bait marketing tactic. Sure, it's a tactic I despise and in poor taste, but clearly it works.
The zero scandi grind is not conducive to batoning or chopping, and it is also a factor (plus its 60 hardness) in why the knife chipped on the bone test. I think if the same knife had a mid to high saber grind, it would have done better in batoning, chopping, and not chipping.
Everyone is knocking the fact that you have the option not to order a sheath with the knife. If DBK wanted a sheath, that was clearly their mistake in not ordering one. Personally, I think having that option is better for people who might want to scrap the leather and go straight to a custom kydex option.
On the Dave Canterbury controversy, his military career is legitimate. The way he portrayed it to producers of Dual Survivor was exaggerated. It is quite ironic and hypocritical that the producers of a reality tv show would be upset about his exaggeration, despite the deception and scripting that they do on their show. In my opinion, it's likely that the producers just wanted an excuse for getting rid of Canterbury probably due to other issues, and perhaps they were so pissed they wanted to ruin his career by bringing his legitimacy and integrity into question.
On the one hand, Canterbury is a mediocre survivalist. In my opinion, he is the Reader's Digest or Popular Science of George Washington Sears, Horace Kephart, and Mors Kochanski - and he himself would admit that those guys were Titans compared to him. The only novel concept that I think Canterbury has added to bushcraft is standardizing the "10 C's of Survival" - which is in itself a marketing tactic. It is quite likely that he just grew up camping and being in the outdoors like most people, and as UA-cam started gaining steam as a platform in 2007, he decided to turn a hobby into a business by posting UA-cam videos. Then, he slowly started to refine his methodology, principles, and skill set over time since then.
On the other hand, Canterbury is a pretty good business man and marketer. He has been able to establish and run four businesses, i.e. Self-Reliance Outfitters, the Pathfinder Knife Shop, the Pathfinder School of Survival Training, and his UA-cam channel, as well as write several books, despite his firing from Dual Survivor. From what I know, he runs those businesses with his father and his brother. I also think that the way he managed to approach manufacturing companies to build a range of products to his specs (whether they are his own custom designs, modern renditions, or white-labeled products) and to streamline those processes is praiseworthy. Having bought a few of his products, I can say that they're pretty good quality, too, and they occupy a particular niche in the outdoors, camping, and bushcraft market - mid-quality, mid-priced, high durability, and with a traditional aesthetic - in his words, products for the "common man." I don't expect his knives to be as nice or performant as, say Bark River Knives, given his knives' price point and finishing. And, while the QC may not be great due to the variation in 5 RC in hardness, that is likely because they may be sourcing their steel from different suppliers. I highly doubt his shop has the ability to harden the knives. One batch may have a hardness of 55-57, while another has a variation of 57-59, while another has a variation of 58-60. Regardless of that, he still guarantees his knives with lifetime warranty. I imagine the inflated price is due to Canterbury bringing the PKS shop in house instead of them being white-labelled products produced by another knife manufacturer, and he is probably still ironing out the kinks in the manufacturing process to bring the costs down. The fact that his knife got the stamp of approval from DBK says something about what Canterbury is good at.
For the record. He locally sources people to make this stuff. The sheaths are made by a local company.
I have found that some of the knives he has sold in the past, were also sold in local gun shows, in michigan by local vendors. If Dave is selling the Buffalo skinner, and the mini version. Those knives are really good at processing animals.
I appreciate an honest review from you guys. I've actually had my eye on that knife for a while. It does suck that it's so hard it chips. But I mainly want it because it's a kephart design
Most WC Knives don’t come w/ a sheath and are generally $325+…. LT Wright knives also have a sheath/no sheath option and are 150+…. With my PKS 3/16 French Trade style survival knife I opted for no sheath because if I’m paying that much already I would rather spend a bit more for a custom sheath that’s going to be exactly what I want. Hence a Mountain Man custom leather for the PKS from some cat on Etsy. And… scandi grinds are easy to sharpen in the field and maintain a decent edge. Entertaining vid tho. You asked about who’s knife you would like to review what about a William Collins knife, the Fieldlore! It’s his newest model and is bad to the bone. Entertaining vid, y’all.
I have had a PKS Mountaineer Knife for over a year and it is one of my favorites!
And yes, you can order an optional leather sheath, I got a custom kydex sheath to replace the leather sheath for its primary carry method.
Great video. The knife came through as I would have expected from something made from 1095. Dave Canterbury is a legend. Learned a lot from him.
Yep, he's about as full of shit as it's possible to be.
Legendary fraud?? I have lived the Bush craft lifestyle for more than 30 years and my knowledge has grown extensively in that time and a lot of that knowledge has come from David Canterbury, the man has probably forgotten more than you will ever learn. Spend a year in his shoes before you think you have the right to put him down
He seems like a right knob.
@@johnrush7699 and a lot of his knowledge came from others to whom he never gave credit.
Do you know Mr RoycrOft?? Was a good mate of Mr kochansky
@@alx252 when you start your career off lying why wouldn't you continue. look at how these guys eat it up. They will defend Canterbury like they're his wife.
I purchased one of their knives they made for Corporal's Corner. It is one of the best knives I own.
I have had the pks mountain lion for 2-3 years and love it.dont think they make this specific knife anymore but it has never failed me. As for sheath i got a basic one off their site which is a very good sheath but plan on making my own custom one
My first Bark River knife/sheath instantly led me down the path to leathercraft. I now make my own. Bad sheath or none, no big deal.
The way these guys drop their drawers without a second thought brings me back to my days in the Army
I thought that was the navy...
Your channel mysteriously popped up after I bought a new Cold Steel SRK. That was ages ago. Love that knife.
Yup, that Dave Kephartanterbury knife looks very cool. Classic lines and great finish to blade and handle
Exactly what I was thinking!
Love your sense of humour guy’s 😂😂😂 Big fan of your show from Australia 👍🏻🇦🇺
You guys should test the Les Stroud knife made by Helle. He's my favorite "survival guy"
Les is amazing, but not a Bushcrafter. Matt Graham however could build you a castle out of twigs. Les uses his knife more like the average joe.
Yah! I have Primitive camp knife and Earth Skills knife. My kinda stuff!!! Matt Graham is ok!
Helle knives are awesome but strictly slicers only. I wouldn't treat those blades like this channel typically treats knives...as axes, lol.
My preference these days is to always have my axe on me along with a knife so my knife doesn't have to be this heavy, thick, monster of a blade. (Although I see the benefits to such blades if you're limited on space and weight in which case I'll just go stupid big like an ESEE Junglas to be able to span sizeable rounds of wood. Pair it with a Silky saw)
Les was always the most sensible survival guy and one of my favorites to watch. Keep in mind he developed that knife with Helle but also developed the Wetterlings "Bushman's Axe" which I have. (Cool axe and a workhorse for its size but I have a few gripes with it, prefer my Gransfors Bruks)
So he too has the axe+knife philosophy which is the best setup for Northern woodlands.
@@pennsyltuckyreb9800 My Helle Nord has handled everything that I have thrown at it, so far. I think Helle wanted to step it up and have a big, rugged belt knife. It isn't exactly a bushcraft knife, but if you were out for a multi-day trek in the north woods in Winter, it is the kind of knife that you would want on your belt, in case you got separated from your pack/axe/saw. I completely agree about the silky, but I like the Wetterlings Les Stroud axe better than the Gransfors Bruks - the straighter handle seems more precise, and safer, out on the trail. I recently picked up a Council Tools carving axe with a completely straight handle, and that is now my main trail axe. At the end of the day, on the trail, when one is starting to get cold and tired, it makes sense to me to have an axe that can be swung cleanly, like a hammer, or a tomahawk. That might just be personal preference, though, and the gransfors bruks blade is amazing.
@@bjenns_skog I don't like the round eye on the Wetterlings. There has always been an issue of the Wetterlings Bushman head coming loose (always at the worst time) and mine did the same. I have to try and field rehang which hopefully works otherwise I'll have to do a full, at home rehang, might need a new handle and wedge, etc. Very annoying.
Round eyes are great for tomahawks and the like, not top wedged axe heads, just my opinion.
The head is a great splitter but the edge way too thick for other tasks at times. But that's a personal preference thing. I think it would have been a way better axe if it didn't have that round eye.
You did give me an idea to try and turn it into a slip fit axe like a tomahawk though....hmmmmm...
You guys should test the Columbia Knives Defiant and see how it performs. The Defiant was designed by famed knife maker Abe Elias as a bushcraft knife. It is made from 154cm with a 3/16" back spine at it's thickest points. The demonstration videos are very impressive!
I have a couple of Dave's knives and they all work nicely for what they're designed for 😁
I got a Jeff White French trade knife and it SUCKS. Its not even a finished knife
Blackjack.... BEAUTIFUL! Someone will love that!
This is not the model he sells for do everything including batoning. That one is the mountaineer. I wouldn't pay that much for 1095 either it's almost as bad as paying the same to survival Lenny for aus8.
When you buy an Esee at least you get a really well ground knife with an excellent sheath (no matter which material you get) and a one of a kind no questions asked replacement warranty. This, you just got a knife with a scandi (yuck) grind.
@David Munir That made me laugh too.
@David Munir That made me laugh too.
Never owned a pks but I've handled some. And they seemed top notch. And I really appreciate carbon steel..
I bought mine in store at smokey mountain knife works and it had a sheath. A good sheath actually
They do have awesome sheaths but when I ordered mine from pks they were sold out so a guy I know is making me one out of kydex
@@kennywheelus6857 I make mine out of a banana peel
@@keenobservations3050, kool,you'll have to make a video showing how you do it
@@kennywheelus6857 I should lol
@@keenobservations3050 ,definitely
Gents! I have not seen you in my feed in quite sometime. What a lovely surprise.
I’ll take a Garberg carbon over one of those. Less pretty… more practical.
Definitely hats off to Dave. I'll happily buy his $35 sheath.
I've had a PKS Scorpion for a few years. Got it for like $106 and it came with a nice quality leather sheath. It's been a great knife for a reasonable price. I honestly have nothing bad to say about the PKS stuff I've used except that I wish they weren't all scandi ground. Otherwise they seem like nice knives for the price.
Yeah seems in future they could do like three variations like scandi,saber grind,or hollow grind,I'm hoping I got those right, would flat grind be a good one
@@kennywheelus6857 - I would definitely like a PKS grizzly with a Sabre or full flat grind. That would be pretty fantastic for me.
@@FancyPrimate ,I hear you,I'd also like a grizzly but with a saber grind
LT Wright... end of discussion!
High quality knife + high quality sheath
YMMV
While ordering knives for the store I work for I saw the pks line. I thought about ordering them but with no sheath the chance of them selling is slim. Pks does offer sheaths separately but at 50 dollars wholesale they're not worth it.
Like selling a car without doors and glass
He sources the sheaths from a local maker. Those sheaths are custom.
The 1095 joke . Mickies “eh “ floored me
Peoples comments first before they watched 😂😂😂
I bought a knife from Dave Canterbury at blade show an met him an corpral kelly both at blade show in Atlanta Georgia this year I got corpral kelly camp an trail knife corpral edition, man I love it,I'm not gonna test mine as hard as you Dutch boys,but I will say this as sharpness,yes indeed almost cut myself doing the hair shaving test,I sent mine to Doug Wilson for a sheath to be made for a badass knife, I love the curly maple handle, I also have my skrama to do all the hard stuff,for food prep an skinning I'm saving for my pks knive,it's worth every penny in my book
Heh, you said it all right at the beginning. $160. It is the biggest problem with all "name brand bushcraft" gear. They can be great stuff, but way over priced. The "perfect" is the enemy of good enough.
Pretty handle though
It sucks, because of the demand is so great for the knives that they jack the price so high on them. About 2 years ago they were going for about 50 t0 60 bucks.
@@gwpattrick That and a lot of marketing buzzwords like "skandi grind" and such. In the first case it was previously known as "how you sharpen a knife with a good working edge".
I do understand the economics of it, a custom short run of better than average (or even great) steel blades or any other product is expensive.
Everything costs more now. Western countries keep expanding the money supply, making each unit of currency less valuable/have less purchasing power. The more money that nations put into circulation, the less it is worth. It is an indirect tax, eroding our savings, and driving up prices. Dave isn't gouging us, our leaders are. Massive spending bills are great places to pack in all sorts of handouts to political allies and special interests. The politicians buy influence, and we get to pay for the debt, in addition to our knives costing a lot of money. Time to buy fewer knives, and use the traditional skills more.
@@kamaeq "scandi grind" isn't a marketing buzzword. It's a very real thing.
I recommend this knife ages ago! Glad to see you liked it 👍
Thanks Lads, Great Vid, If I HAD to waste $160 on a PKS I'd go with the Corporal's "Shawn Kelly" Corner 🔪 Edition. Scales, Shape are more ergonomic than this one. For Canterbury ALWAYS preaching "PRICED FOR EVERYDAY MAN" Crap, PKS & SRO Quality and prices Especially with NO SHEATH are Rediculasly Over priced. No Thanks, I'll stick with my Mora's Who've Never let me down. 🔪🇺🇸🤘🏻☘️
$160 , 1095 , & no sheath . Not to mention 5 points on the Rockwell scale is enormous , no thanks . Those that do buy , I hope they like & have good luck with them but if I’m gonna buy 1095 it will be an Esee or a Tops (with a sheath) !
I have both, I like the Kephart better then the Corporals. It's a shame these knives used to be only 50ish dollars about 2 years ago. Now with demand they jack the price way up. Although it used to be sold out in a 1/2 day now they are starting to stay on the websites longer. Maybe the knives will start dropping in price soon.
When batoning, after the knife blade enters the wood, and the knife tip is protruding, flip it all over so the log being split is up and the spine of the blade (tip section protruding) is on the supporting base. Beat the wood down over the blade. Much more effective.
Seems like a pretty okay knife/ design, but I completely agree, the fact it doesn't come with a sheath is scam-ish especially at the price and materials it's made of. There are knives out there offering similar materials that cost less to produce that do come with a pretty decent leather sheath. I don't know the economics behind the production of this knife because obviously volume of knives produced come into play with pricing and turning a profit, which you need in order to produce higher volumes of knives, thus bringing the price down a little eventually, but sell it with a cheap canvas sheath at least... and by god, get that heat treat down to a more exact and consistent QC so you can get the most out of the 1095hc steel.
Overall, the design and aesthetic of the knife is very well done and quite attractive.
I noticed the edge that chipped on the bone seemed harder than the blade, which flexed on that nasty log lol. It might be a stretch to think the range is on purpose though?
The shot of Mikki walking with the cardboard sleeve and knife in his waistband made me laugh so hard. I’ve had a few knives that I’ve used while a sheath was being made and carried it around with the dumb safety sleeve lol.
I'm surprised that it didn't baton well. That Handle is gorgeous.
Me too, that's all he talked about doing for years. Lol
@@TheBeatenPaths it looked thick enough too
HRC between 55-60…that’s a difference of 23.6%. That’s not a precise heat treat at all. That’s backyard minimum equipment level range at best.
Bro your sound effects have me howl every dang time
Been here since the start
Love your guys are going still
Hard to fault it for splitting, that really comes down to how big the piece of wood is doesn't it? If it doesn't break it should be a 10/10.
Well not really because we always use wood that is in the same ballpark so we have a rough estimate of how good the knives split. Next week you’ll see a knife split a piece of wood that this knife couldn’t.. and with ease.. cheers mate!!!
I don't know how this is the first time I've seen your channel, but you have one more subscriber.
Wow thanks a lot! We really appreciate it a lot
Had a ML kephart knife that was similar to this Canterbury years ago but it came with a sheath. Something about the length of the blade to the handle kept me from loving it so it moved on. Not bad but $170 is steep for 1095. Nice review
I would definitely buy one if they were available in the UK. I have only tried to buy knives directly from the USA twice and on both occasions they were stopped at US customs as restricted items illegal to export to the UK. What a massive waste of time that was getting refunds.
His original knife, made by Blind Horse Knives, known as the PLSK1, was so much better in quality and durability. It also came with a sheath; a damn good sheath. Not a big fan of anyone who's more into bullshit than substance; but hey, it works for him. If you can find one of his old Pathfinder Scout knives, that would be a great review. Probably the best knife he ever had that he promoted......(yes, it came with a sheath). What kind of jackass would sell a knife without a sheath?
Jerry Busse sells knives without sheaths. Is Busse Combat a bunch of jackasses? Me thinks not.
the plsk1 was a great knife but i wasn't a fan of how thick it was which kinda affected the geometry of the scandi grind. The pathfinder scout was my dream knife for a while and i can't believe he stopped that design. The butcher knife thing was cool and i still mess around with the old hickory he always promoted but in the end the old school blind horse days were definitely the glory days
@@nikosfilipino Battle Horse Knives, as far as I know, still make those two knives, the PLSK1 and the Scout; they just have different names since they are no longer affiliated with Dave. You'll have to check their website.
I have collected knives for decades, i wont say how long or how many, lets just say i have probably spent more then i should and i could never need or use as many as i have lol.
Now the truth of it. For those here looking to learn, seaching for the absolute best knife for them, and most functional over the longest period of time. Im going to save you a ton of searching and buying, a simple knife is always best, solid tang, made of great steel, a guard to protect your hand if it slips, and a handle that fits your hand, thats it. The absence of moving parts, reseach the steel that holds an edge and doesnt chip , solid construction and hand protection. For me i like a blade i edc, but doesnt look like a sword and doesnt stand out. My edc is one i had made for me, every material used was choosen by me, the design, all by what is best for me, that i feel secure can be used in the most situations, and is comfortable in weight, in my hand, and on my person.
Others may need a folding knife, depending where you live, to stay inside the laws in that area, and avoid attention. I still advise simple, but to each their own, just remember, each part, is something that can fail.
I own many beautiful knives, many collectors peices, and many that i just had to have lol. This advice isnt for a collector, collectors are different beasts and we just collect lol. This advice for for the person looking for the right one, the one they feel can be used and carried for the most effective tool in just about any situation, although i always suggest having two, the main, and the back up, every situation can turn into a survival situation.
So Mikkie won’t grow a beard but he’ll grow a caterpillar? 😂👨🏻🦰
Hey, facial hair rocks, man! Rock that mustache with pride. 😎🔥
Beards are masks for ugly people. Are you suggesting mikkie needs to cover his ugly face?
Survivorman, Les Stroud, has a knife and machete made by LT Wright Knives. You guys definitely need to test his foraging tool knife.
i would rather have the mora and 150 bucks in my pocket
Here here.
David Canterbury is a legend amongst men. Nothing but the upmost respect for that man and everything he teaches. Wish I could make it to the Pathfinders school one day
I own 2 PKS knives. 💜 Em man! I have the neck knife and Corporal Kelly's edition of the camp and trail.
@@Dab_Marino hell yea. Cpl Kelly is a bad ass too. Love his shelters.
Dave is a person who is endless in self promotion. That said, a lot of his stuff is really pricey. You can use military surplus or Stanley cookware to do the same thing for a lot less
i have the PKS Scorpion for a year now. i love it.
Not a knife I would ever buy as I can't in good faith but any product with Dave's name attached to it... Given how he lied about and embellished his military experience in order to get on the show to begin with. The guy has skills. Just no integrity
@DTL the skills he is teaching can be learned elsewhere, as there are many good survival schools out there. Him and Cody both, while admittedly very skilled, are 2 people i.would not spend my money with just based on what I've seen of their professional lives surrounding the Dual Survival show. But, I'd rather Dave or Cody in the woods with me in a survival situation that that nutter Bear Grylls... Talk about stollen valor, he talks about the SAS like he is a 20 year veteran... When in reality it was his over inflated ego that got him injured on a training jump. Dude never deployed. He's no better than those years that "almost served"
@DTL LOL....clearly you have NFI what you're on about.
Dave Canterbury's military career is legitimate. The way he portrayed it to producers of Dual Survivor was exaggerated. It is quite ironic and hypocritical that the producers of a reality tv show would be upset about his exaggeration, despite the deception and scripting that they do on their show. In my opinion, it's likely that the producers just wanted an excuse for getting rid of Canterbury probably due to other issues.
On the one hand, Canterbury is a mediocre survivalist. In my opinion, he is the Reader's Digest or Popular Science of George Washington Sears, Horace Kephart, and Mors Kochanski - and he himself would admit that those guys were Titans compared to him. The only novel concept that I think Canterbury has added to bushcraft is standardizing the "10 C's of Survival" - which is in itself a marketing tactic. It is quite likely that he just grew up camping and being in the outdoors like most people, and as UA-cam started gaining steam as a platform in 2007, he decided to turn a hobby into a business by posting UA-cam videos. Then, he slowly started to refine his methodology, principles, and skill set over time since then.
On the other hand, Canterbury is a pretty good business man and marketer. He has been able to establish and run four businesses, i.e. Self-Reliance Outfitters, the Pathfinder Knife Shop, the Pathfinder School of Survival Training, and his UA-cam channel, as well as write several books, despite his firing from Dual Survivor. From what I know, he runs those businesses with his father and his brother. I also think that the way he managed to approach manufacturing companies to build a range of products to his specs (whether they are his own custom designs, modern renditions, or white-labeled products) and to streamline those processes is praiseworthy. Having bought a few of his products, I can say that they're pretty good quality, too, and they occupy a particular niche in the outdoors, camping, and bushcraft market - mid-quality, mid-priced, high durability, and with a traditional aesthetic - in his words, products for the "common man." I don't expect his knives to be as nice or performant as, say Bark River Knives, given his knives' price point and finishing. And, while the QC may not be great due to the variation in 5 RC in hardness, that is likely because they may be sourcing it from different suppliers. One may have a guarantee of 55-57, while another has a guarantee of 57-59, while another has a variation of 58-60. Regardless of that, he still guarantees his knives with lifetime warranty. The fact that his knife got the stamp of approval from DBK says something about what Canterbury is good at.
Kudos to DBK for making subtle reference to the Dave Canterbury controversy with the thumbnail.
Most knives with a freshly ground scandi from factory like that are going to chip/roll to some deg with sharp impact on bone with. Hit canted too, looked like. Keep on keeping on brothers : ) Canterbury is pretty stand up guy, have one of his & hults bruk axes and love it.
Really? Nobody? Im disappointed, anyway where do I send all my info, I dont have a Telegram, also I'm sorry your parents are dead, you have no family, your starving, and are living in a moldy box in... probably Lagos?
Dave Canterbury has one of the best bushcraft books.
I have several PKS knives and they are all great. The sheath is an option and its 36 bucks.
that handle looks way too slick for an outdoors knife. can't imagine it when the handle gets water or blood on it.
I wanted this knife so bad but I could only afford the garberg. Now I’m saving for this. It’s truly a great peace of gear
I guess you have to respect Canterbury's decision to simply leave out the sheath. Too many knives come with sheaths that are just cheap garbage thrown in so the box can say, "Includes a premium sheath!" Canterbury's decision says that rather than throwing in a $0.50 piece of crap for propaganda purposes and forcing the buyer to find an aftermarket sheath anyway, he's just going to skip the propaganda and let the buyer go straight to finding the aftermarket sheath.
On another note, the DBK boys' mustaches are getting pretty close 1970s porn star territory. Maybe when their girlfriends lay down the law - shave or else - they'll do a vid where they have to pick their favorite knife to shave with. And let the girls do the shaving.
160.00 for a wood handled 1095 blade with no sheath is high, especially when companies like tops and Esee can produce 1095blades with micarta scales and throw in a kydex sheath for less money, not to mention Esee has a no questions asked warranty. As for respecting Dave and PKS we should all respect the cultist following he has created. I mean think about it guys that blindly buy all his China made gear (I know the knife is made in USA) without a thought just because it’s got his name on it are more cult than wise. But the lack of even a 10.00 sheath really says something. Even Ontario sends their knives out with a cheap China sheath.
@@richardvisneski506 Everyone is knocking the fact that you have the option not to order a sheath with the knife. If DBK wanted a sheath, that was clearly their mistake in not ordering one. Personally, I think having that option is better for people who might want to scrap the leather and go straight to a custom kydex option. The thing is that Dave Canterbury is going to source a sheath that is made from the USA, which means the sheath itself is also pricey compared to sheaths made outside of the USA due to the high cost of USA labor.
Having bought a few of his products, I can say that they're pretty good quality, too, and they occupy a particular niche in the outdoors, camping, and bushcraft market - mid-quality, mid-priced, high durability, and with a traditional aesthetic - in his words, products for the "common man." I don't expect his knives to be as nice or performant as, say Bark River Knives, given his knives' price point and finishing. And, while the QC may not be great due to the variation in 5 RC in hardness, that is likely because they may be sourcing it from different suppliers. One may have a guarantee of 55-57, while another has a guarantee of 57-59, while another has a variation of 58-60. Regardless of that, his knives also come with a no questions asked lifetime warranty.
Sure, lots of other knife companies make similar quality knives for cheaper, but none make them with this aesthetic or with this design pattern. PKS is able to fill a particular void in the market, and Canterbury understands that. The problem is that his knife shop is not scaled up to keep up with the demand - which, to be honest, not many USA made knife shops can - which is also why his knives cost more than they should.
That "no sheath" slow mo shot at the beginning 🤣🤣🔥👍
This knife is as legitimate as his military career.
He was an mp in the us army
@@doornaildean9891 which means he was a POG and his mil career was pretty irrelevant
@@traceyevans2757 says a nobody on UA-cam
Edgy comment bro
@@traceyevans2757 Which means he was a POG? Tf did you do in the military? 🤡
Great video and testing.
For you to suggest that Dave Canterbury would run a scam or offer a knife that he created as a scam is a poor way to title a video as click bait. Dave Canterbury is an upstanding, reputable, trusted, skilled, serious professional in all he does. I find your video title as insulting to his character. Test his knife and keep your character insults to yourself.
How so? They clearly said in the opening line that dave was of upstanding reputation. And very quickly showed it waa seriously sharp
People can say what they want . There is lots of here say about Dave first off he claims he has usa products there not and that knife looks like the condor brand which is not usa . Again here say if these guys have feeling and facts about Someone they have every right to speak there mind . Never be afraid to say something .
I find the Easter Egg and subtle reference to the Dave Canterbury controversy with the thumbnail and opening lines hilarious. Kudos to DBK for using that as click-bait marketing tactic. Sure, it's a tactic I despise and in poor taste, but clearly it works. Despite it, though, DBK did give a stamp approval to the knife.
In his defense he did a video on his knives and its called did you want one did you add it to the cart for he wanted to keep costs down and some peoples dont want it
That slomo shot of the knife in your belt was hilarious with that music.
You should review the Tops EJ Snyder knife - he uses that knife in multiple TV shows, including dual survival and naked and afraid. Be interested to see how it holds up! You guys are the best!
I use Dave's advice and buy old hickory great ,inexpensive and useful I'm.not butt hurt to break or lose one they perfect for my needs
Have you reviewed any of L.T. Wright's knives?
I'm rocking my BPS B1 and loving it! sure it's not fancy like this but I got sheath!
For real. I dig the bps myself
That bone test is for real.
As a hunter who cuts meat away from bone ( I don't eat bone so why carry it )....it doesn't take many times of getting into the bone until the blade is dulled.
Can you recommend a folding knife which you could baton with, if you lost your fixed blade knife? Just for an emergency survival situation.
Svord Von Tempsky bowie knife & the Svord Von Tempsky Ranger knife
Thanks guys for sharing this and take care.
You guys should try LT. Wright knives.
In Germany the Sacki 3.0 knife is quite famous in the outdoor section, designed and forged in cooperation with a blacksmith, should be very resistant and reliable. Sacki is a well known outdoorer with plenty of experience. Can this knife convince you?
I have a pathfinder school knife and it’s awesome. One of the best knives I own.
The handle "looked nice," but was it too slick? It looked to me that it could fly right out of a moist/wet hand.
Wander Tactical has some awesome knives. Hes an italian wilderness survival expert, knife maker, and wilderness photographer. Met him before, cool guy.
Hey, you have to give an extra point for fire making. There are not to many knives that could do that without the use of a ferro rod. Thanks
Make a test about the Wanger WOC II Plus. The amount of knife you get for just 70€ is simply mind-boggling:
- 5mm 9CR18MOV V-flat, bevel going all the way up, very sharp(!), it LOVES to cut
- Different Micarta Designs (green is pure para military art)
- secret storage INSIDE THE KNIFE for a firesteel and some birch or different stuff
- very sturdy and tough Kydex sheat with TekLok
All that. For just 70€.
Thank you 👍. Sheath is an additional $35 - $38
Have you guys done the POS Bear Grylls knife sold at Walmart in the states? You probably have, I will go check your vids! Love the content. Thanks for the review!