While 15 certainly looks like a much smaller number than 50, SPF 15 blocks over 93% of UV. The Echo is for wearing in hot conditions. You get something incredibly light with good airflow and still blocks almost all UV.
I own the patagonia and echo from OR. The patagonia is more durable against the straps of a pack and the odor protection on a multiday hike is really nice. The OR echo is one of my favorite shirts if hiking without a pack. It is just incredibly light and I haven't really found anything that can match it in terms of weight, breathability, and drying ability. The issue I've had with the echo is the durability of the fabric. If you wear a pack for an extended amount of time it causes pilling and makes the shirt look bad after. The low weight of the fabric should be a plus due to the fact you could pack multiple shirts to your bag and add hardly any weight. That's all canceled out by the fact that the shoulders can't sustain a pack for more than a couple hours without pilling and wear. OR has a great warranty though and they sent me a new shirt no questions asked when I called them on the phone about the pilling issue I experienced. Perhaps the newer versions of the echo have fixed this issue, but they really need a thicker denier or more durable fabric around the shoulder and back of this shirt if used for hiking. Otherwise it's really just an athletic/day shirt.
i have really been enjoying Simm's Bugstopper hoodies which are rated UPF30+. They size large so a normal medium on me makes it pretty baggy. But that is great for where clothing item below it for cooler days.
Great video! Just a note on Patagonia capilene for sun protection- they actually did a recall on products made before Fall 2020. The UPF protection was not as high as they advertised it to be. They are allowing customers to return it for a full refund or store credit.
@@MySoCalledAdventures Patagonia didn't actually specify 30...they only said 17-45UPF for an average of 34 UPF, then tried minimizing saying good news at 17UPF still block 92% of sun's UV rays. To their credit they did recall.
Remember that the effective difference between 15 upf and 50 upf is less than 5%. 15upf implies 1 out of 15 rays passing through (6.6%) vs 1/50 (2%). So at a significant cost of breathability, upf 50 garments only provide 4.6% more protection. Basically negligible.
The Sunshade Technical Hoody is Patagonia’s best comparable to these. 80 bucks but has all the features you need & it will outlast the cheaper ones w a lifetime guarantee. The button neck is something you’ll love
Picked one up, I still support the Baleaf as a budget hoodie...But so far I am really liking the Sunshade Technical. I just wish they had more colors and were more in stock (supply chain problems). Wish they had a rust color.
Very informative. Just as another person mentioned below, I too, have experienced the same issue with the Baleaf hood not staying put in the wind. The hood is too big and loose. The feel of the material is outstanding tho. I wore this on the PCT desert portion and I liked it. Besides the hood, I felt the shirt didn’t dry as fast as my 100% poly sun shirts, many nights it was still damp when I went to bed at camp.
Its spandex that holds moisture. They really should just make them 100% polyester. Looks like the backcountry Tahoe 2 you mentioned has 2% more spandex then the Beleaf.
@@michael133 It’s trade-offs. If I still want a shirt with 50 UPF rating but breathable, than I would need to look for a poly/spandex blend. 100% poly shirts with 50 UPF don’t really breath well. Now, if I do want a 100% poly that will let airflow, and dried quicker than a spandex blend, than I would have to settle for one with lower UPF rating like the OR Echo with UPF 15.
I watched on amandaoutside about wearing long sleeve sounds counterintuitive but it works so I gave it a try. Got a Northface one to try out and loved it. Bought another REI brand and works great too. Saved me from Zion, UT torturous 110F sun!
Thanks for the post. Patagonia recently released a statement that the Capiline material is less than 50 spf. I’m interested in the montebell hoodie too.
I would be interested in finding out how much less. They rated it at SPF 50+ so are we talking over 45 or like is it in the 15 range. I'll do a little research
Scott Harvey Because I recently bought the capiline long sleeve, they were going to give me a full refund. They said it varied between 30 and 45, if I remember correctly. I decided to keep them both.
I have the Baleaf, Patagonia Capalene Cool and REI Saharah shade hoodie. The Baleaf has the most colors and is the most budget friendly (I did see a UA hoodie at Costco for around $15 recently but haven't tried it) but the sleeves are to short in my size to make use of the thumb holes and the hood flies off even when I walk fast. The Patagonia has great material, the hood stays on OK and is the coolest on a very hot day. The REI is the best designed of the three besides the cuffs are a little bulky and don't allow as much air up the sleeves as the other two. It has good thumb holes and sleeve length, very comfy fabric and a "hidden" cinch in the hood to keep it from flying off. It is a little warmer than the Patagonia but I'm guessing it is also has more sun protection so that is a trade off. The REI hoodie design with the Patagonia fabric would be pretty great. I could probably live with the lack of thumb holes on the Patagonia if it had a way to cinch down the hood in the wind.
I’m doing a compare of the backcountry Tahoe 2 and the Patagonia sunshade technical, you might like that Patagonia hoodie as it atleast has a button to tighten it down. I where a baseball cap and I think that helps with the hoodie on the baleaf staying up
@@MySoCalledAdventures Cool I will look out for your next review. I use a ball cap as well and it definitely helps. I also put the hood under the cap when it's really windy and for some reason it feels like it is cooler, temperature wise, to wear it that way.
Great review I am researching sun hoodies and actually own 2 Willit's. I have also been looking at the Outdoor Vital Tern which is a bit pricing but I like their products. My question is what is the weight comparison of the 3 hoodies? Thanks
Great review. Appreciate your straightforward and honest style. Shorter is better on UA-cam! Your mention of the Northface hoodie intrigued me, especially if it is as light as the Capilene Cool. I would like to see one. I have the Capilene Cool. It is really remarkably light. I have only used it on one hike so we'll see how it holds up. I am 6-1 and about 170 wearing a Medium and mine does not fit loosely as yours seems to. Here's a suggestion others might find useful - I thought putting the hood up would make it hotter, but in fact putting it up gets the material off your neck. Plus if you then put a hat on top (not underneath) the hood stays in place and lots of air is moving around my neck and down the back of the shirt. Worth a try. Hey, I'm in Los Angeles and I recognize some of your locations. In recent weeks I've done Baldy and Baden Powell among others and hoping to do other peaks in the San Gabes soon. Maybe see you out there. 🤓
Oh yeah, forgot to mention. I agree it's a drawback of the Patagonia Capilene Cool that it doesn't cover the hands, especially with the intense sun here in SoCal. I bought some Outdoor Research sun gloves to use with the shirt, but haven't tried them for real yet. Agree that gloves are just one more thing to buy and worry about, but I figure I can use them when driving also...
So the north face is a great hoody but has one big draw back. I’ll cover it in a video but spoiler…the material feels really heavy and I think it will become my late fall, winter and early spring hoody. Patagonia makes a few other goodies and the sunshade technical is quickly becoming my favorite
Also try strawberry mountain is a very under rated peak, you can hit it from red box for a straight forward hike or Colby canyon for a challenging mountaineering route with two class 3 scrambles. I have not done the mountaineering route with my fear of heights
@@MySoCalledAdventures Thanks for the reply. Material feeling heavy makes no sense at all for a sun hoodie! I'm sure North Face will realize that soon. In the meantime, Patagonia... 😉 Thanks for the mention of Strawberry, I will put it on my list.
My problem with the Baleaf is with the hood. It doesn't stay up in the wind. For that reason, I prefer the Patagonia. I haven't tried the OR one yet. Great comparison!
While 15 certainly looks like a much smaller number than 50, SPF 15 blocks over 93% of UV. The Echo is for wearing in hot conditions. You get something incredibly light with good airflow and still blocks almost all UV.
I own the patagonia and echo from OR. The patagonia is more durable against the straps of a pack and the odor protection on a multiday hike is really nice. The OR echo is one of my favorite shirts if hiking without a pack. It is just incredibly light and I haven't really found anything that can match it in terms of weight, breathability, and drying ability. The issue I've had with the echo is the durability of the fabric. If you wear a pack for an extended amount of time it causes pilling and makes the shirt look bad after. The low weight of the fabric should be a plus due to the fact you could pack multiple shirts to your bag and add hardly any weight. That's all canceled out by the fact that the shoulders can't sustain a pack for more than a couple hours without pilling and wear. OR has a great warranty though and they sent me a new shirt no questions asked when I called them on the phone about the pilling issue I experienced. Perhaps the newer versions of the echo have fixed this issue, but they really need a thicker denier or more durable fabric around the shoulder and back of this shirt if used for hiking. Otherwise it's really just an athletic/day shirt.
i have really been enjoying Simm's Bugstopper hoodies which are rated UPF30+. They size large so a normal medium on me makes it pretty baggy. But that is great for where clothing item below it for cooler days.
Great video! Just a note on Patagonia capilene for sun protection- they actually did a recall on products made before Fall 2020. The UPF protection was not as high as they advertised it to be. They are allowing customers to return it for a full refund or store credit.
I think it came in at 30, but I only where mine here and there now and is really soft on the skin.
products before September 1, 2021. And they currently no longer specify a UPF claim on thse lines.
@@MySoCalledAdventures Patagonia didn't actually specify 30...they only said 17-45UPF for an average of 34 UPF, then tried minimizing saying good news at 17UPF still block 92% of sun's UV rays. To their credit they did recall.
Very helpful video. Do you (or does anyone else here) find that the odor control treatment wears off over time from treated polyester fabrics? Thanks.
The Patagonia tropic hoodie? That they make for fly fishing has thumb holes and might be your winner if you want to try it
I went with the Patagonia sunshade technical
Thank you man, never knew these exists. Now getting one
Good stuff Scott. I've been using the Columbia PFG Sun hoodies for years. They are SPF 50+
Remember that the effective difference between 15 upf and 50 upf is less than 5%.
15upf implies 1 out of 15 rays passing through (6.6%) vs 1/50 (2%). So at a significant cost of breathability, upf 50 garments only provide 4.6% more protection. Basically negligible.
I learned aomething
It must be light and protective , my choice is the arcteryx cormac hoody one size bigger
Great tips! Thoughts on pull over vs zip up?
Outdoor vitals now makes a sun hoodie that is supposed to be super light and breathable. I would like to see what you think of that one?
The Sunshade Technical Hoody is Patagonia’s best comparable to these. 80 bucks but has all the features you need & it will outlast the cheaper ones w a lifetime guarantee. The button neck is something you’ll love
Picked one up, I still support the Baleaf as a budget hoodie...But so far I am really liking the Sunshade Technical. I just wish they had more colors and were more in stock (supply chain problems). Wish they had a rust color.
Very informative. Just as another person mentioned below, I too, have experienced the same issue with the Baleaf hood not staying put in the wind. The hood is too big and loose. The feel of the material is outstanding tho. I wore this on the PCT desert portion and I liked it. Besides the hood, I felt the shirt didn’t dry as fast as my 100% poly sun shirts, many nights it was still damp when I went to bed at camp.
I’m trying out the backcountry Tahoe 2. Once I hike a few hikes in it I’ll do an update video comparing it to the baleaf. Spoiler, so far I like it
Its spandex that holds moisture. They really should just make them 100% polyester. Looks like the backcountry Tahoe 2 you mentioned has 2% more spandex then the Beleaf.
@@michael133 It’s trade-offs. If I still want a shirt with 50 UPF rating but breathable, than I would need to look for a poly/spandex blend. 100% poly shirts with 50 UPF don’t really breath well. Now, if I do want a 100% poly that will let airflow, and dried quicker than a spandex blend, than I would have to settle for one with lower UPF rating like the OR Echo with UPF 15.
Patagonia Sunshade Technical hoody is 100% poly and 50+ SPF and so far is really comfy. It is $80
@@MySoCalledAdventures thanks man for keeping us updated
Where did you find the SPF rating for Capilene? I looked everywhere and it doesn't have a rating.
I watched on amandaoutside about wearing long sleeve sounds counterintuitive but it works so I gave it a try. Got a Northface one to try out and loved it. Bought another REI brand and works great too. Saved me from Zion, UT torturous 110F sun!
Thanks for the post. Patagonia recently released a statement that the Capiline material is less than 50 spf. I’m interested in the montebell hoodie too.
I would be interested in finding out how much less. They rated it at SPF 50+ so are we talking over 45 or like is it in the 15 range. I'll do a little research
Scott Harvey Because I recently bought the capiline long sleeve, they were going to give me a full refund. They said it varied between 30 and 45, if I remember correctly. I decided to keep them both.
@@barondavis5692thanks for the info, I feel 30 - 45 would be acceptable to me and nice they gave you a refund. They are a great company
Scott Harvey I agree, 30 is fine. There was a refund only if I returned the used shirts. I kept them.
I have the Baleaf, Patagonia Capalene Cool and REI Saharah shade hoodie. The Baleaf has the most colors and is the most budget friendly (I did see a UA hoodie at Costco for around $15 recently but haven't tried it) but the sleeves are to short in my size to make use of the thumb holes and the hood flies off even when I walk fast. The Patagonia has great material, the hood stays on OK and is the coolest on a very hot day. The REI is the best designed of the three besides the cuffs are a little bulky and don't allow as much air up the sleeves as the other two. It has good thumb holes and sleeve length, very comfy fabric and a "hidden" cinch in the hood to keep it from flying off. It is a little warmer than the Patagonia but I'm guessing it is also has more sun protection so that is a trade off. The REI hoodie design with the Patagonia fabric would be pretty great. I could probably live with the lack of thumb holes on the Patagonia if it had a way to cinch down the hood in the wind.
I’m doing a compare of the backcountry Tahoe 2 and the Patagonia sunshade technical, you might like that Patagonia hoodie as it atleast has a button to tighten it down. I where a baseball cap and I think that helps with the hoodie on the baleaf staying up
@@MySoCalledAdventures Cool I will look out for your next review. I use a ball cap as well and it definitely helps. I also put the hood under the cap when it's really windy and for some reason it feels like it is cooler, temperature wise, to wear it that way.
This is exactly what I was looking for! thank you so much for the upload great video keep up the great work!
Thank you! Very helpful.
Hi, thanks for your video. You helped me make my decision. But I have a question.
At what heat temperature is the sun hoodie ok to wear?
I wear mine regardless of temp. If you see road workers, they all wear sweatshirts in the heat :|
@@MySoCalledAdventures Ok cool. Thanks so much.
Great review I am researching sun hoodies and actually own 2 Willit's. I have also been looking at the Outdoor Vital Tern which is a bit pricing but I like their products. My question is what is the weight comparison of the 3 hoodies? Thanks
Check out Outdoor Vital Sun Hoodie. Cheaper and lighter than the merino wool Tern you mentioned. Very impressed with mine.
@@hiuuu4042 I received my Tern Hoodie but haven’t used it yet. But I do use the Tern Tee. Thanks
Have you tried the Backcountry Tahoe (I think it's the "Tahoe 2")? I love it.
No, but I did a google and the hoodie looks really cool so I ordered it. I'll let you know how it compares to the Baleaf
@@MySoCalledAdventures Great!
Patagonia Capirlene Cool does not list UPF rating at all.
Great review. Appreciate your straightforward and honest style. Shorter is better on UA-cam! Your mention of the Northface hoodie intrigued me, especially if it is as light as the Capilene Cool. I would like to see one. I have the Capilene Cool. It is really remarkably light. I have only used it on one hike so we'll see how it holds up. I am 6-1 and about 170 wearing a Medium and mine does not fit loosely as yours seems to. Here's a suggestion others might find useful - I thought putting the hood up would make it hotter, but in fact putting it up gets the material off your neck. Plus if you then put a hat on top (not underneath) the hood stays in place and lots of air is moving around my neck and down the back of the shirt. Worth a try. Hey, I'm in Los Angeles and I recognize some of your locations. In recent weeks I've done Baldy and Baden Powell among others and hoping to do other peaks in the San Gabes soon. Maybe see you out there. 🤓
Oh yeah, forgot to mention. I agree it's a drawback of the Patagonia Capilene Cool that it doesn't cover the hands, especially with the intense sun here in SoCal. I bought some Outdoor Research sun gloves to use with the shirt, but haven't tried them for real yet. Agree that gloves are just one more thing to buy and worry about, but I figure I can use them when driving also...
So the north face is a great hoody but has one big draw back. I’ll cover it in a video but spoiler…the material feels really heavy and I think it will become my late fall, winter and early spring hoody. Patagonia makes a few other goodies and the sunshade technical is quickly becoming my favorite
Also try strawberry mountain is a very under rated peak, you can hit it from red box for a straight forward hike or Colby canyon for a challenging mountaineering route with two class 3 scrambles. I have not done the mountaineering route with my fear of heights
@@MySoCalledAdventures Thanks for the reply. Material feeling heavy makes no sense at all for a sun hoodie! I'm sure North Face will realize that soon. In the meantime, Patagonia... 😉 Thanks for the mention of Strawberry, I will put it on my list.
Weights of each?
Thanks for a good review with important details to make the right purchase.
Have u tryed the blackdiamond sun hoodie?
No, I'll check it out though
@@MySoCalledAdventures nice! Tell me what u think :)
Good info. You need to update your links.
How tall in big are you and what size bay leaf hoodie do you wear?
In this video I am 6’ 190lbs and a large. I wear the same sun hoodies and am now 220lbs do to being lazy
@@SciFIFX ..lol,.I can relate brother. TY for responding!
@@SciFIFXright on man 😂
Thank you!
I like the Patagonia 3:39
OR sun hoodie is legit 🙌🏻
Good video Scott
Thanks 👍
My problem with the Baleaf is with the hood. It doesn't stay up in the wind. For that reason, I prefer the Patagonia. I haven't tried the OR one yet. Great comparison!
I love the Patagonia hoodie...I def though do not like the OR hoodie. OR makes some good gear, this one just doesn't work for me.
and the Winner is
Rab Men's Pulse Hoody
Doesn’t have thumb holes, I really like thumb holes
Who is from India 😊