The Ones that got away (so far anyway!) - Old photos of Lincoln
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- So far I've made over 1,000 time shift videos, matching old photos with new ones taken from the same position. I reckon I've collected at least 1,000 old photos over this time. Most have ended up in time shift videos, but some have proved more difficult than others to match with new images. Indeed, some took months, and several trips, to get right. Some have even proved impossible to match with new photos, and I've decided to put them here in this video as they may still be of interest to look at...
There are different reasons I've not been able to get new photos to match, for many the viewpoint of the original photographers simple doesn't exist now. That is the case with the first photo of the steam train, which was taken from the old footbridge over the railway line by the High Street level crossing. These never work very well as the new bridge isn't in the same place as the old one.
Others were taken from viewpoints that still exist but are now impossible to get to. The second photo of the Pyewipe pub was taken from across the Fossdyke where the railway line is. The third photo of the obelisk on High Bridge is taken from inside Stokes cafe, and could be reproduced, but at great inconvenience to customers?
The fourth old photo shows construction work on Crown Mill, but where the old photographer was stood is now housing. This is the case with many of the old photos in this video. The fifth video demonstrates another common problem. We think it shows a coach on the South Common temporary car park used by Lincoln City, but I have not been able to match up the houses in the background. This might be because they no longer exist, or I could be looking in completely the wrong place?
The sixth photo shows Boultham Baths, which aren't there anymore. Some times that doesn't matter, as you can use old maps to work out where to get the new photo, but not if it is private or built on. Another common problem is in using old paintings or drawings, like the one of St. Peter at Gowts church. There is so much artistic license in these that they are often impossible to match up with a new photo. The eighth photo by John Rohowsky on Brayford Pool must have been taken from on board a boat, or an old mooring that I don't have access to. The next photo is in the arboretum. I know where the old stone folly stood, I've even made a video of it from the other side, but this viewpoint won't work for a new photo.
The next old photo shows Stamp End Lock and the Druid's Arms pub. It took ages to realise it was shot from the railway bridge. so my only hope is try from on board a moving train! The next photo of a 1970s car park by Brayford Wharf East is another where I'd have to stand inside a new building today.
The next two old photos show Mayfield Bridge in 1958 when the original was finally being removed from alongside the newly built bridge. The first would have to be taken from inside the Waterside Centre, whereas the second appears to be taken from a raised viewpoint that I've been unable to replicate. The same applies to the next photo of Pelham Bridge under construction.
The photo of the train on the transporter near St. Marks is an example of how I often have to stand in the middle of a busy road to get the new photos. I have been successful at this, but not here. I've also failed many times with the photo of Peark's shop at the junction of High Street and Tentercroft Street, even though I'm sure I'm in the right place.
The next photo apparently shows old maltings on Norman Street, close to where the new bus station is, but I've not been able to work out the viewpoint? Then we have a very old photo of men outside St. Mark's railway station, and it is another where the photographer would be standing inside a building today.
The following is a photo looking down Danesgate, but I think that today you'd have to stand in a private garden to recreate it? Then we have an old photo taken from an unknown courtyard in the Cathedral area. The next old photo shows floods by the Brayford, and I think must have been taken from the old footbridge that no longer exists. I've tried to recreate it from Wigford Way, but it won't even get close to working. Then we have another photo taken from the old railway footbridge, followed by one of the London Tea Warehouse on Magpie Square, which requires me to stand in the middle of Broadgate to recreate it. Finally there is a great photo of an old industrial scene, which may or may not be Beevor Street, I simply don't know.
I will keep trying to work out how to use these in time shifts, I've not given up entirely on all of them, just yet....
These are brilliant. I love your technique of matching areas, I can see how difficult that may be sometimes. Thank you for your hard work in the matching.
Thanks, I hate giving up on any of the old photos, but some just end up impossible to match :(
NIce selection! The pair of houses behind the coach is 17-19 St Catherines, but the houses to the left have gone, replaced by St Catherine's Mews. The closed toilets would be just out of shot to the left. As for the old maltings on Norman Street, it's looking south from just north of the multi-storey car park. On the right in the background is the garage/showrooms of Gilberts, later Mansbridges and LSG printing works/offices close to where the buses now exit the bus station into Oxford Street. No chance of getting that shot now unfortunately! Think the cathedral shot is from the long-gone Halliwell's Court, behind 5 Eastgate.
Thanks, yes a couple of people have pointed out the house on St. Catherine's and it is now firmly back on my to do list, possibly even today :)
I thought that was Gilberts behind the maltings, and if so it would be impossible to get a new pic to match like you say. Although out of sheer devilment I might try with a view of the car park as the new pic :)
Someone else also mentioned Halliwell's Court, which sadly isn't repeatable either :(
thank you so much for keeping in touch with my home town left 69 went home this year how it has changed but my love has not Lncoln and its people are the best xx
My pleasure, thanks for the kind words :)
Coincidences! I also left Lincoln in 1969 and the country in 1976. Visited Lincoln only last month. Much has changed but I can still find my way around.
The railway engine in the first photograph is named 'Umseke' (a species of antelope for those who are unaware!). It can be found elsewhere on the Internet where the date is given as 8 August 1953.
Great thanks :)
I love them all, and especially the last one which shows how dramatically fashions were changing in the 1920s(?), with the young woman in a skirt to her knees, and the elderly one in a long skirt and cape. I remember my mother, born in the early 30s saying that her grandma wore long skirts, and never seemed to notice the family cat clinging to the back of it as she walked around🤣
@@michaelaaylott1686 Thanks, yes sometimes the clothes are the best way to date old photos, but sometimes they can confuse matters :)
Are you sure the swimming baths photo is of Boultham baths, although the photo clearly predates me I do remember swimming there and don't remember it looking like that. There were some other outdoor swimming baths, located at the Pyewipe end of Carholme golf course, could it be there instead? I'm happy to be corrected, I love these old photos, so many memories, questions and 'what-ifs'. Keep them coming.
This is one of those old photos where I'm dependent on the original uploader who said it was Boultham Baths. They did change a lot over the years, although my memories of them aren't very clear. I've done videos of the baths by the Fossdyke on the way to the Pyewipe, and it definitely isn't there. But it is always good to question these things :)
I’m sure you’ve considered this but, just in case, the courtyard near the Cathedral looks to me like the bottom of Gordon Road off Bailgate turning left at bottom.
Yes that was the first one I thought if. There was s huge debate on a Facebook group, with a consensus it was somewhere just north of Eastgate...